Problem with `'’ used in program listing

[Trevor Jenkins]

I am clearly doing something stupid with a program listing in LyX. The code in 
the listing is fragment of SQL (for SQLite3)

“name string" regexp "^(\w| |`|'|’|-)+, (\w| |`|'|’|-)+, "
That is the regular expression checks for ` ‘ and ’ (backtick, straight quote 
and right quote). The program listing element is set to Language SQL and Font 
Family to Typewriter.

Unfortunately, as probably expected, when generating View PDF LyX bitches about 
the presence of one or more of the backtick and right quote. LyX does not allow 
for TeX code to be inserted into a Program Listing otherwise I would replace 
the errant character(s) with the appropriate TeX controls.

I do not recall where I can change the character code within LyX; vague memory 
of seeing it somewhere but it is not on the Document Settings dialog nor the 
Preferences dialog.

For completeness the document is using the Tufte Handout class (with a local 
layout to force use of old style bibtex citations). LyX version 2.3.7 running 
on macOS Sonoma 14.1.2,

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Setting up labels for and references to tables in LyX

[Trevor Jenkins]

I need to create labels/references to multiple tables in my LyX document. There 
is nothing in the various Table menu items for this. The Insert > Label and 
Insert > Cross-Reference… menu items do not appear to function in that for 
example if I set the name of the label to tab:Electoral Roll Extract and then 
pick that name of the list when inserting the cross reference neither appears 
in the final document. The label does not appear with the table and the 
reference does not appear at the point of reference either.

How do I setup labels for each of my tables and then reference them in the text 
of my document?


Version information etc.

LyX 2.3.7
macOS Sonoma 14.1 on a Mac mini M1
TeXlive 2023
Python 3.11.5

Document class Tufte Handout
Local layout “Include ../citeengines/basic.citeengine”(because I am using 
bibtex)
Also using pdflscape (updated from TeXlive an hour ago) as the tables are very 
wide

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Re: Tufte Handout class handling of citations broken by LyX v2.3.6.2

[Trevor Jenkins]

It appears (in that it works) that the solution to my issue back in April 2022 
is

Document > Settings > Local Layout 

Input ../citeengines/basic.citeengine

Validate

Hey presto. New LyX documents using class Tufte Handout that contain citations 
in them are again formatted as expected. 

Regards, Trevor.

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> On 29 Apr 2022, at 00:18, Trevor Jenkins  wrote:
> 
> I have a number of (old) LyX files that use the Tufte Handout class 
> (tufte-handout.cls). In LyX version 2.0 these were formatted correctly that 
> is the citation of a reference appears in marginalia; numbered in sequence 
> with formal sidenotes. However, for new and modified files the most recent 
> LyX version 2.3.6.2 breaks this behaviour! A reference is placed in the text 
> and the citation only appears in the bibliography at the end of the final 
> document. Depending on exactly which style of reference is selected via 
> Insert > Citation the reference may also be incorrect and appear as 
> {author?}. But none of the styles available via Insert > Citation give the 
> documented result that Tufte Handout is supposed to produce.
> 
> This breakage makes LyX useless for me as I only use Tufte Handout (and have 
> no interest or desire to use a different LaTeX class in its place).
> 
> Regards, Trevor.
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Tufte Handout class handling of citations broken by LyX v2.3.6.2

[Trevor Jenkins]

I have a number of (old) LyX files that use the Tufte Handout class 
(tufte-handout.cls). In LyX version 2.0 these were formatted correctly that is 
the citation of a reference appears in marginalia; numbered in sequence with 
formal sidenotes. However, for new and modified files the most recent LyX 
version 2.3.6.2 breaks this behaviour! A reference is placed in the text and 
the citation only appears in the bibliography at the end of the final document. 
Depending on exactly which style of reference is selected via Insert > Citation 
the reference may also be incorrect and appear as {author?}. But none of the 
styles available via Insert > Citation give the documented result that Tufte 
Handout is supposed to produce.

This breakage makes LyX useless for me as I only use Tufte Handout (and have no 
interest or desire to use a different LaTeX class in its place).

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: What Am I Doing Wrong … bibliography entries not being included

[Trevor Jenkins]

Okay here’s the simplest case

Regards, Trevor.

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LyX Test.lyx
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Test for LyX Issue.bib
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> On 18 Apr 2022, at 21:53, Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:
> 
> Create an MWE, please, ie a minimal working example, by reducing
> everything but what triggers the issue, and paste this here, including
> the BIB file which should contain a single reference.
> 
> Often that will lead you to the solution and if not we can have a look
> at it :-)-O
> 
> el
> 
> 
> 
> On 2022-04-18 10:39 , Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>> When I View my document ⌘-R pdflatex shouts that there are no
>> citations!  I have added the relevant BibTeX file using Insert >
>> List/TOC > Bib(la)Tex Bibliography picking a local .bib file and then
>> added a citation using Insert > Citation followed by Adding a specific
>> citation.  (It appears in a sidenote entry as I have tuftepaper as my
>> document class.)
>> Pdflatex’s error message is
>> BibTeX error: I found no \citation commands---while reading file Statins.aux
>> It makes no difference what Citation Style I select when adding the
>> citation.  I have had this working before (on a now dead machine) but
>> cannot for the life me work out what I am doing wrong.
>> Operating System: macOS 12.3.1 (Monterey)
>> Processor: M1
>> LyX version: 2.3.6.2
>> Python: 3.10.4 (freshly (re)installed)
>> Document class: tuftepaper
>>  with custom options:
>>  justified,a4paper,sidenote=raggedright,marginnote=raggedright,nobib
>>  that latter because I want to suppress the final bibliography
>>  listing and was fine in my previous not that it suppressed the
>>  bibliography
>> Regards, Trevor.
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What Am I Doing Wrong … bibliography entries not being included

[Trevor Jenkins]

When I View my document ⌘-R pdflatex shouts that there are no citations! I have 
added the relevant BibTeX file using Insert > List/TOC > Bib(la)Tex 
Bibliography picking a local .bib file and then added a citation using Insert > 
Citation followed by Adding a specific citation. (It appears in a sidenote 
entry as I have tuftepaper as my document class.) 

Pdflatex’s error message is 

BibTeX error: I found no \citation commands---while reading file Statins.aux

It makes no difference what Citation Style I select when adding the citation. I 
have had this working before (on a now dead machine) but cannot for the life me 
work out what I am doing wrong.

Operating System: macOS 12.3.1 (Monterey)
Processor: M1
LyX version: 2.3.6.2
Python: 3.10.4 (freshly (re)installed)
Document class: tuftepaper
 with custom options: 
justified,a4paper,sidenote=raggedright,marginnote=raggedright,nobib
 that latter because I want to suppress the final bibliography listing and 
was fine in my previous not that it suppressed the bibliography


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Re: Setting a permanent default class that is not "Article (Standard Class)

[Trevor Jenkins]

Thanks. 

Is that what that wording means‽

> On 18 Sep 2021, at 16:29, Ricardo Berlasso  wrote:
> 
> 
> El sáb, 18 sept 2021 a las 17:24, Trevor Jenkins ( <mailto:bslwann...@gmail.com>>) escribió:
> I create most (all) of my documents in LyX using the "Tufte Handout" class 
> with custom options however new documents start off with the "Article 
> (Standard Class)” class with no custom options.Scouring the menus and 
> documentation I see no way to set my preferred class with its options as the 
> default in LyX. There might be an occasion when I do not want Tufte Handout 
> but that has proven rare over the years and in anywise would not be Article 
> (Standard Class) more likely one of Memoir or Tufte Book.
> 
> Have I missed something or is LyX fundamentally lacking in this respect?
> 
> In the same Document → Settings menu, you have a "Save as document default" 
> button: once you selected all your default options, click that button before 
> closing the menu.
> 
> Regards,
> Ricardo
> 
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Setting a permanent default class that is not "Article (Standard Class)

[Trevor Jenkins]

I create most (all) of my documents in LyX using the "Tufte Handout" class with 
custom options however new documents start off with the "Article (Standard 
Class)” class with no custom options.Scouring the menus and documentation I see 
no way to set my preferred class with its options as the default in LyX. There 
might be an occasion when I do not want Tufte Handout but that has proven rare 
over the years and in anywise would not be Article (Standard Class) more likely 
one of Memoir or Tufte Book.

Have I missed something or is LyX fundamentally lacking in this respect?

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Re: Google Analytics (or other)

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <e...@lisse.na> wrote:
> On 20/06/2017 11:54, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
> > Link to Google Analytics and this user will delete all traces of LyX
> f> rom their systems never to re-install.

No, but I would then probably put you into my spam filter.
>

Better in your spam filter than on Google's spamming list.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Google Analytics (or other)

[Trevor Jenkins]

Link to Google Analytics and this user will delete all traces of LyX from
their systems never to re-install.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:

> I think this would be madness.
>
> el
>
> On 03/06/2017 23:06, Cris Fuhrman wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jun 3, 2017 15:50, "Scott Kostyshak"  > > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for this idea, Cris. Would this be only to see how many people
> > are using LyX or for something in addition to that? Every time I
> think
> > about something like that, I challenge myself and ask: "Why do I
> want to
> > know how many people use LyX?" and my answer is always just that I
> would
> > be curious. Since I don't think it would lead to any improvement in
> LyX,
> > my train of thought stops there.
> >
> >
> > GA (as far as I understand it) can track usage within any app. For
> > example, each time a user selects New, the app can "click" a link via GA
> > that signifies New. It's up to the developer to determine granularity of
> > usage stats. In theory you could collect preference data at every
> > closing/applying of the preference dialogue (it could be arguments to a
> > tracking URL). I'm not an expert in how best to do it, but it's "usage
> > data" that many apps already collect. GA is but a means to that end.
> > There are other options: https://stackoverflow.com/q/1554062/1168342
> >
>
>
>


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Re: My hyperlinks and urls are not working in Adobe or Okular but do work

[Trevor Jenkins]

That PDF works fine for me in Acrobat too (v10.1.7) on Mac OS X 10.8.3
(Mountain Lion)


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM, John Kane jrkrid...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 I don't seem to be able to create a clickable hyperlink or url  that works
 in Adobe Reader or Okular but they work just fine in Document Viewer.  This
 is true of my own file (see attachment) and the recent example file from
 http://ca-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8ijkmp1vpj8vh#mail that Uwe
 Stöhr uploaded.

 I have also attached the pdf file. Would someone have a look at the pdf
 file  and confirm that the problem is my setup? That is, tell me that I
 have to figure out how to enable hyperrefs in Adobe Reader and Okular and
 not that there is some problem with the way LyX is generating the pdf on my
 system?

 Thanks




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Re: My hyperlinks and urls are not working in Adobe or Okular but do work

[Trevor Jenkins]

That PDF works fine for me in Acrobat too (v10.1.7) on Mac OS X 10.8.3
(Mountain Lion)


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM, John Kane jrkrid...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 I don't seem to be able to create a clickable hyperlink or url  that works
 in Adobe Reader or Okular but they work just fine in Document Viewer.  This
 is true of my own file (see attachment) and the recent example file from
 http://ca-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8ijkmp1vpj8vh#mail that Uwe
 Stöhr uploaded.

 I have also attached the pdf file. Would someone have a look at the pdf
 file  and confirm that the problem is my setup? That is, tell me that I
 have to figure out how to enable hyperrefs in Adobe Reader and Okular and
 not that there is some problem with the way LyX is generating the pdf on my
 system?

 Thanks




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Re: My hyperlinks and urls are not working in Adobe or Okular but do work

[Trevor Jenkins]

That PDF works fine for me in Acrobat too (v10.1.7) on Mac OS X 10.8.3
(Mountain Lion)


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM, John Kane  wrote:

> I don't seem to be able to create a clickable hyperlink or url  that works
> in Adobe Reader or Okular but they work just fine in Document Viewer.  This
> is true of my own file (see attachment) and the recent example file from
> http://ca-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=8ijkmp1vpj8vh#mail that Uwe
> Stöhr uploaded.
>
> I have also attached the pdf file. Would someone have a look at the pdf
> file  and confirm that the problem is my setup? That is, tell me that I
> have to figure out how to enable hyperrefs in Adobe Reader and Okular and
> not that there is some problem with the way LyX is generating the pdf on my
> system?
>
> Thanks
>



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Re: Getting rid of You cannot type two spaces this way message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Alan R. Bleier ar...@cornell.edu wrote:
  I agree completely with Trevor.
 
 I completely disagree with Trevor. Hitting double space [to get a full
 stop] is as unnatural and unhelpful as it gets. This may make some
 sense for a mobile platform, but is utterly unneeded on the desktop. I
 very much hope that LyX doesn't go the way of the iThingies.


It is natural to anyone who uses a typewriter. Typists are deliberately
taught to put two spaces after a full stop!


 If the message itself is what bothers you, then try not to look at it.
 With time you'll get used to ignoring it completely.


Bollox! It disturbs the visual perception of the user to no good purpose
other than to be smart ass about some convention that a few people don't
like. Errors and warnings should be displayed for real problems not the
imagined superiority of programmers.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Getting rid of You cannot type two spaces this way message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Alan R. Bleier ar...@cornell.edu wrote:
  I agree completely with Trevor.
 
 I completely disagree with Trevor. Hitting double space [to get a full
 stop] is as unnatural and unhelpful as it gets. This may make some
 sense for a mobile platform, but is utterly unneeded on the desktop. I
 very much hope that LyX doesn't go the way of the iThingies.


It is natural to anyone who uses a typewriter. Typists are deliberately
taught to put two spaces after a full stop!


 If the message itself is what bothers you, then try not to look at it.
 With time you'll get used to ignoring it completely.


Bollox! It disturbs the visual perception of the user to no good purpose
other than to be smart ass about some convention that a few people don't
like. Errors and warnings should be displayed for real problems not the
imagined superiority of programmers.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Alan R. Bleier  wrote:
> > I agree completely with Trevor.
> >
> I completely disagree with Trevor. Hitting double space [to get a full
> stop] is as unnatural and unhelpful as it gets. This may make some
> sense for a mobile platform, but is utterly unneeded on the desktop. I
> very much hope that LyX doesn't go the way of the iThingies.
>

It is natural to anyone who uses a typewriter. Typists are deliberately
taught to put two spaces after a full stop!


> If the message itself is what bothers you, then try not to look at it.
> With time you'll get used to ignoring it completely.
>

Bollox! It disturbs the visual perception of the user to no good purpose
other than to be smart ass about some convention that a few people don't
like. Errors and warnings should be displayed for real problems not the
imagined superiority of programmers.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: PDF preview not working on upgrade to 2.0.4

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Tim Garrett tim.garr...@utah.edu wrote:

  I've updated from 1.6 to 2.0 on lion OS X, and now the pdf viewer eyes no
 longer bring up the acrobat window.


I'm running 2.0.4 on Mountain Lion without any issues.


 The compiling appears to be successful


 This is what view -- messages says:

 16:53:23.944: Previewing ...
 16:53:23.948: (buffer-view: ⌘R)
 16:53:23.986: open -a /Applications/Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro/Adobe Acrobat
 Pro.app Assignment4.pdf


Interesting the Acrobat app is installed directly in /Applications on my
systems (I also have a Snow Leopard box). Did you install an update to
Acrobat around the same time?

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: PDF preview not working on upgrade to 2.0.4

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Tim Garrett tim.garr...@utah.edu wrote:

  I've updated from 1.6 to 2.0 on lion OS X, and now the pdf viewer eyes no
 longer bring up the acrobat window.


I'm running 2.0.4 on Mountain Lion without any issues.


 The compiling appears to be successful


 This is what view -- messages says:

 16:53:23.944: Previewing ...
 16:53:23.948: (buffer-view: ⌘R)
 16:53:23.986: open -a /Applications/Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro/Adobe Acrobat
 Pro.app Assignment4.pdf


Interesting the Acrobat app is installed directly in /Applications on my
systems (I also have a Snow Leopard box). Did you install an update to
Acrobat around the same time?

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: PDF preview not working on upgrade to 2.0.4

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Tim Garrett  wrote:

  I've updated from 1.6 to 2.0 on lion OS X, and now the pdf viewer eyes no
> longer bring up the acrobat window.
>

I'm running 2.0.4 on Mountain Lion without any issues.


> The compiling appears to be successful
>

> This is what view --> messages says:
>
> 16:53:23.944: Previewing ...
> 16:53:23.948: (buffer-view: ⌘R)
> 16:53:23.986: open -a /Applications/Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro/Adobe Acrobat
> Pro.app "Assignment4.pdf"
>

Interesting the Acrobat app is installed directly in /Applications on my
systems (I also have a Snow Leopard box). Did you install an update to
Acrobat around the same time?

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Getting rid of You cannot type two spaces this way message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote bi...@jovial.com wrote:
  Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the You cannot ... Please
 read the
  tutorial message?  I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't
 change the
  layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space.  I'm
  completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on extra
 spaces.
  With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging.  I know already!
 
 Start ignoring it. :)


If you're an iPad or iPhone user like me it's hard to ignore such a message
because in the iOS environment hitting double space is a natural and useful
thing ... it inserts a fullstop and inter-sentence spacing so one's eye
gaze is on the screen checking that the correct thing has happened or
because one is a touch typist and that's where you look too.


 This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to
 always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what
 happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it
 already or not.


Except that I for one and I guess Bill for his need to comment are not new
users of LyX. We don't need that sort of nanny state warning. Indeed if
the key sequence has no meaning in LyX then I'd argue that there is
absolutely no need for a message at all. Just have it drop the second space
quietly and move on.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Getting rid of You cannot type two spaces this way message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote bi...@jovial.com wrote:
  Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the You cannot ... Please
 read the
  tutorial message?  I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't
 change the
  layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space.  I'm
  completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on extra
 spaces.
  With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging.  I know already!
 
 Start ignoring it. :)


If you're an iPad or iPhone user like me it's hard to ignore such a message
because in the iOS environment hitting double space is a natural and useful
thing ... it inserts a fullstop and inter-sentence spacing so one's eye
gaze is on the screen checking that the correct thing has happened or
because one is a touch typist and that's where you look too.


 This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to
 always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what
 happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it
 already or not.


Except that I for one and I guess Bill for his need to comment are not new
users of LyX. We don't need that sort of nanny state warning. Indeed if
the key sequence has no meaning in LyX then I'd argue that there is
absolutely no need for a message at all. Just have it drop the second space
quietly and move on.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Getting rid of "You cannot type two spaces this way" message?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Bill Foote  wrote:
> > Is there an easy way for me to get rid of the "You cannot ... Please
> read the
> > tutorial" message?  I know that typing two spaces that way doesn't
> change the
> > layout, and I'm more-or-less fine with LyX auto-deleting the space.  I'm
> > completely fine with TeX not changing the formatting based on "extra"
> spaces.
> > With all that said, I'd prefer that LyX stop nagging.  I know already!
> >
> Start ignoring it. :)


If you're an iPad or iPhone user like me it's hard to ignore such a message
because in the iOS environment hitting double space is a natural and useful
thing ... it inserts a fullstop and inter-sentence spacing so one's eye
gaze is on the screen checking that the correct thing has happened or
because one is a touch typist and that's where you look too.


> This is what I did. Besides, it's a good idea to
> always show it, so as to quickly and clearly explain new users what
> happens and why. LyX cannot know whether the user typing _knows_ it
> already or not.
>

Except that I for one and I guess Bill for his need to comment are not new
users of LyX. We don't need that sort of "nanny state" warning. Indeed if
the key sequence has no meaning in LyX then I'd argue that there is
absolutely no need for a message at all. Just have it drop the second space
quietly and move on.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Examples of integration between Lyx, Sage computations, and PDFLateX

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Thomas Coffee thomasmcof...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I notice your email shows up in the archive thread but mine does not,
  and thus neither do the attachments. Any idea how to change this?
 
 Sending big attachments to mailing lists (and binary files) may have
 this effect.


Thomas' attachments were sent to me and are in my archive (aka my GMail
folder for LyX) so it doesn't appear to be the size or number of
attachments sent.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Examples of integration between Lyx, Sage computations, and PDFLateX

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Thomas Coffee thomasmcof...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I notice your email shows up in the archive thread but mine does not,
  and thus neither do the attachments. Any idea how to change this?
 
 Sending big attachments to mailing lists (and binary files) may have
 this effect.


Thomas' attachments were sent to me and are in my archive (aka my GMail
folder for LyX) so it doesn't appear to be the size or number of
attachments sent.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Examples of integration between Lyx, Sage computations, and PDFLateX

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Thomas Coffee 
> wrote:
> > I notice your email shows up in the archive thread but mine does not,
> > and thus neither do the attachments. Any idea how to change this?
> >
> Sending big attachments to mailing lists (and binary files) may have
> this effect.
>

Thomas' attachments were sent to me and are in my "archive" (aka my GMail
folder for LyX) so it doesn't appear to be the size or number of
attachments sent.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: A4 paper in tufte book class - SOLVED

[Trevor Jenkins]

Great.

I think I found this option with a Luke Skywalker  use the source
moment. Looked at the underlying LaTeX style and noticed that option
was available.

Unlike Tufte I personally like justified text (well the paragraph
setting algorithm in TeX is very good at that) so my options also
include justified. But that then affects the Tuftian sidenotes so I
also set sidenote=raggedright. Again I found these options from
playing Skywalker. There is formal documentation for the Tufte classes
and, I believe, these options and several more are listed there. Check
out the relevant Google code site.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Roel Schipper - CITG
h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl wrote:
 Thanks Trevor,

 That works for me as well! I would not have thought of putting a4paper there 
 without your suggestion, thanks.

 Roel

 -Original Message-
 From: Trevor Jenkins [mailto:bslwann...@gmail.com]
 Sent: donderdag 3 november 2011 22:54
 To: Roel Schipper - CITG
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: A4 paper in tufte book class

 Document  Settings Then Custom where you type a4paper as an option.
 Works for me in 2.0.0.

 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Roel Schipper - CITG 
 h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl wrote:
 Is there a way to use A4 paper in Tufte book class? The Tufte-LaTeX
 def file is prepared for A4. LyX is using Letter now by default. In 2.0.0 the
 option Format under Document Settings - Page Layout is greyed out.
 It does not make a difference if I set the default paper size to A4 in 
 Preferences - LaTeX.





-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: A4 paper in tufte book class - SOLVED

[Trevor Jenkins]

Great.

I think I found this option with a Luke Skywalker  use the source
moment. Looked at the underlying LaTeX style and noticed that option
was available.

Unlike Tufte I personally like justified text (well the paragraph
setting algorithm in TeX is very good at that) so my options also
include justified. But that then affects the Tuftian sidenotes so I
also set sidenote=raggedright. Again I found these options from
playing Skywalker. There is formal documentation for the Tufte classes
and, I believe, these options and several more are listed there. Check
out the relevant Google code site.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Roel Schipper - CITG
h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl wrote:
 Thanks Trevor,

 That works for me as well! I would not have thought of putting a4paper there 
 without your suggestion, thanks.

 Roel

 -Original Message-
 From: Trevor Jenkins [mailto:bslwann...@gmail.com]
 Sent: donderdag 3 november 2011 22:54
 To: Roel Schipper - CITG
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: A4 paper in tufte book class

 Document  Settings Then Custom where you type a4paper as an option.
 Works for me in 2.0.0.

 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Roel Schipper - CITG 
 h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl wrote:
 Is there a way to use A4 paper in Tufte book class? The Tufte-LaTeX
 def file is prepared for A4. LyX is using Letter now by default. In 2.0.0 the
 option Format under Document Settings - Page Layout is greyed out.
 It does not make a difference if I set the default paper size to A4 in 
 Preferences - LaTeX.





-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: A4 paper in tufte book class - SOLVED

[Trevor Jenkins]

Great.

I think I found this option with a Luke Skywalker  "use the source"
moment. Looked at the underlying LaTeX style and noticed that option
was available.

Unlike Tufte I personally like justified text (well the paragraph
setting algorithm in TeX is very good at that) so my options also
include justified. But that then affects the Tuftian sidenotes so I
also set sidenote=raggedright. Again I found these options from
playing Skywalker. There is formal documentation for the Tufte classes
and, I believe, these options and several more are listed there. Check
out the relevant Google code site.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Roel Schipper - CITG
<h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl> wrote:
> Thanks Trevor,
>
> That works for me as well! I would not have thought of putting a4paper there 
> without your suggestion, thanks.
>
> Roel
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Trevor Jenkins [mailto:bslwann...@gmail.com]
> Sent: donderdag 3 november 2011 22:54
> To: Roel Schipper - CITG
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: A4 paper in tufte book class
>
> Document > Settings Then Custom where you type a4paper as an option.
> Works for me in 2.0.0.
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Roel Schipper - CITG 
> <h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl> wrote:
>> Is there a way to use A4 paper in Tufte book class? The Tufte-LaTeX
>> def file is prepared for A4. LyX is using Letter now by default. In 2.0.0 the
>> option "Format" under "Document Settings - Page Layout" is greyed out.
>> It does not make a difference if I set the default paper size to A4 in 
>> "Preferences - LaTeX".
>>
>



-- 
Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: A4 paper in tufte book class

[Trevor Jenkins]

Document  Settings Then Custom where you type a4paper as an option.
Works for me in 2.0.0.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Roel Schipper - CITG
h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl wrote:
 Is there a way to use A4 paper in Tufte book class? The Tufte-LaTeX def file
 is prepared for A4. LyX is using Letter now by default. I used A4 without
 problems one year ago in LyX 1.6, but in 2.0.0 the option “Format” under
 “Document Settings - Page Layout” is greyed out. It does not make a
 difference if I set the default paper size to A4 in “Preferences – LaTeX”.



 Kindly,

 Roel Schipper







-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: A4 paper in tufte book class

[Trevor Jenkins]

Document  Settings Then Custom where you type a4paper as an option.
Works for me in 2.0.0.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Roel Schipper - CITG
h.r.schip...@tudelft.nl wrote:
 Is there a way to use A4 paper in Tufte book class? The Tufte-LaTeX def file
 is prepared for A4. LyX is using Letter now by default. I used A4 without
 problems one year ago in LyX 1.6, but in 2.0.0 the option “Format” under
 “Document Settings - Page Layout” is greyed out. It does not make a
 difference if I set the default paper size to A4 in “Preferences – LaTeX”.



 Kindly,

 Roel Schipper







-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: A4 paper in tufte book class

[Trevor Jenkins]

Document > Settings Then Custom where you type a4paper as an option.
Works for me in 2.0.0.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Roel Schipper - CITG
 wrote:
> Is there a way to use A4 paper in Tufte book class? The Tufte-LaTeX def file
> is prepared for A4. LyX is using Letter now by default. I used A4 without
> problems one year ago in LyX 1.6, but in 2.0.0 the option “Format” under
> “Document Settings - Page Layout” is greyed out. It does not make a
> difference if I set the default paper size to A4 in “Preferences – LaTeX”.
>
>
>
> Kindly,
>
> Roel Schipper
>
>
>
>



-- 
Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Mutliple Bibliographies Problems

[Trevor Jenkins]

I wanted to use two different bibliographies in a document. There was
already a bibliography defined and used in the document text. To add
the second one the menu items Insert  List  BibTeX Bibliography ...
were used. The second seemed to be there. It was shown separately from
the first and if I double clicked the appropriate dialogue box would
be shown with the file references, etc. However, none of the entries
in the second bibliography were listed for Insert  Citation ...

There was a further problem in that immediately after trying to insert
a citation from the second bibliography styles from my document type
(Tufte handout) were inaccessible. They were substituted by a Plain
TeX style. Eventually I managed to restore the Tufte handout styles by
editing an existing paragraph (one that pre-dated the attempt to add a
second bibliography).

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Mutliple Bibliographies Problems

[Trevor Jenkins]

I wanted to use two different bibliographies in a document. There was
already a bibliography defined and used in the document text. To add
the second one the menu items Insert  List  BibTeX Bibliography ...
were used. The second seemed to be there. It was shown separately from
the first and if I double clicked the appropriate dialogue box would
be shown with the file references, etc. However, none of the entries
in the second bibliography were listed for Insert  Citation ...

There was a further problem in that immediately after trying to insert
a citation from the second bibliography styles from my document type
(Tufte handout) were inaccessible. They were substituted by a Plain
TeX style. Eventually I managed to restore the Tufte handout styles by
editing an existing paragraph (one that pre-dated the attempt to add a
second bibliography).

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Mutliple Bibliographies Problems

[Trevor Jenkins]

I wanted to use two different bibliographies in a document. There was
already a bibliography defined and used in the document text. To add
the second one the menu items Insert > List > BibTeX Bibliography ...
were used. The second seemed to be there. It was shown separately from
the first and if I double clicked the appropriate dialogue box would
be shown with the file references, etc. However, none of the entries
in the second bibliography were listed for Insert > Citation ...

There was a further problem in that immediately after trying to insert
a citation from the second bibliography styles from my document type
(Tufte handout) were inaccessible. They were substituted by a Plain
TeX style. Eventually I managed to restore the Tufte handout styles by
editing an existing paragraph (one that pre-dated the attempt to add a
second bibliography).

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx 2.0.1 not working on Lion

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Mark mark@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 Hi,

 After upgrading to Lion I checked that my Lyx installation worked -
 no problem. Now when I try to run it,
  it fails with the PowerPC applications not supported error from
 Lion. I'm not sure what changed - don't
  remember checking Lyx 2.0.1 was ok when I downloaded it or
 maybe it was a Mac OS upgrade.

Haven't Apple removed Rosetta Stone from OS X with the release of
Lion. All applications are now supposed to be Intel-native. The LyX
installed on my Snow Leopard system produces this output from file

nowhere:~ trevor$ file /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx: Mach-O universal binary with
2 architectures
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx (for architecture
ppc7400):   Mach-O executable ppc
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx (for architecture
i386):  Mach-O executable i386

so there's still PPC code bound into the image.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx 2.0.1 not working on Lion

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Mark mark@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 Hi,

 After upgrading to Lion I checked that my Lyx installation worked -
 no problem. Now when I try to run it,
  it fails with the PowerPC applications not supported error from
 Lion. I'm not sure what changed - don't
  remember checking Lyx 2.0.1 was ok when I downloaded it or
 maybe it was a Mac OS upgrade.

Haven't Apple removed Rosetta Stone from OS X with the release of
Lion. All applications are now supposed to be Intel-native. The LyX
installed on my Snow Leopard system produces this output from file

nowhere:~ trevor$ file /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx: Mach-O universal binary with
2 architectures
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx (for architecture
ppc7400):   Mach-O executable ppc
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx (for architecture
i386):  Mach-O executable i386

so there's still PPC code bound into the image.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx 2.0.1 not working on Lion

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Mark  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After upgrading to Lion I checked that my Lyx installation worked -
> no problem. Now when I try to run it,
>  it fails with the "PowerPC applications not supported" error from
> Lion. I'm not sure what changed - don't
>  remember checking Lyx 2.0.1 was ok when I downloaded it or
> maybe it was a Mac OS upgrade.

Haven't Apple removed Rosetta Stone from OS X with the release of
Lion. All applications are now supposed to be Intel-native. The LyX
installed on my Snow Leopard system produces this output from file

nowhere:~ trevor$ file /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx: Mach-O universal binary with
2 architectures
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx (for architecture
ppc7400):   Mach-O executable ppc
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx (for architecture
i386):  Mach-O executable i386

so there's still PPC code bound into the image.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: [OT] I hate powerpoint

[Trevor Jenkins]

Nothing to do with LyX but I did enjoy this PowerPoint related item reported
on the Guardian newspaper this weekend. Maybe someone there is a fan of
Edward Tufte in that party; Tufte's essay on PowerPoint should be read by
everyone who thinks that presentation software is a good thing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/aug/28/powerpoint-party-switzerland-ban


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Mukhtar Ullah 
mukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-rostock.de wrote:

 Remember that you can't use with it graphic packages like graphicsx, pgf
 and so forth.

 Cheers.


 On 29/08/2011 09:32, Julio Rojas wrote:

 Looks nice!
 --**---
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com



 On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Mukhtar Ullah
 mukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-**rostock.demukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-rostock.de
  wrote:

 If you were lucky enough to be using PowerPoint 2010 you wouldn't have
 this
 problem; equations editing is now built in, so equations are just like
 text,
 instead of objects.

 Jim


  This can come to your rescue. I have tested it and works like a charm.
 http://sites.google.com/site/**tex4ppt/http://sites.google.com/site/tex4ppt/

 Mukhtar





 --
 Dr. Ing. Mukhtar Ullah
 Dept. of Systems Biology  Bioinformatics
 Institute of Computer Science
 University of Rostock
 18051 Rostock, Germany
 www.sbi.uni-rostock.de




-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: [OT] I hate powerpoint

[Trevor Jenkins]

Nothing to do with LyX but I did enjoy this PowerPoint related item reported
on the Guardian newspaper this weekend. Maybe someone there is a fan of
Edward Tufte in that party; Tufte's essay on PowerPoint should be read by
everyone who thinks that presentation software is a good thing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/aug/28/powerpoint-party-switzerland-ban


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Mukhtar Ullah 
mukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-rostock.de wrote:

 Remember that you can't use with it graphic packages like graphicsx, pgf
 and so forth.

 Cheers.


 On 29/08/2011 09:32, Julio Rojas wrote:

 Looks nice!
 --**---
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com



 On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Mukhtar Ullah
 mukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-**rostock.demukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-rostock.de
  wrote:

 If you were lucky enough to be using PowerPoint 2010 you wouldn't have
 this
 problem; equations editing is now built in, so equations are just like
 text,
 instead of objects.

 Jim


  This can come to your rescue. I have tested it and works like a charm.
 http://sites.google.com/site/**tex4ppt/http://sites.google.com/site/tex4ppt/

 Mukhtar





 --
 Dr. Ing. Mukhtar Ullah
 Dept. of Systems Biology  Bioinformatics
 Institute of Computer Science
 University of Rostock
 18051 Rostock, Germany
 www.sbi.uni-rostock.de




-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: [OT] I hate powerpoint

[Trevor Jenkins]

Nothing to do with LyX but I did enjoy this PowerPoint related item reported
on the Guardian newspaper this weekend. Maybe someone there is a fan of
Edward Tufte in that party; Tufte's essay on PowerPoint should be read by
everyone who thinks that presentation software is a good thing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/aug/28/powerpoint-party-switzerland-ban


On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Mukhtar Ullah <
mukhtar.ul...@informatik.uni-rostock.de> wrote:

> Remember that you can't use with it graphic packages like graphicsx, pgf
> and so forth.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> On 29/08/2011 09:32, Julio Rojas wrote:
>
>> Looks nice!
>> --**---
>> Julio Rojas
>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Mukhtar Ullah
>> >
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> If you were lucky enough to be using PowerPoint 2010 you wouldn't have
 this
 problem; equations editing is now built in, so equations are just like
 text,
 instead of objects.

 Jim


  This can come to your rescue. I have tested it and works like a charm.
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/**tex4ppt/
>>>
>>> Mukhtar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> Dr. Ing. Mukhtar Ullah
> Dept. of Systems Biology&  Bioinformatics
> Institute of Computer Science
> University of Rostock
> 18051 Rostock, Germany
> www.sbi.uni-rostock.de
>
>


-- 
Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Problem with lyx 2 on Mac

[Trevor Jenkins]

Been a while I know but no one else has answered. But I have one question
for you: is the included file in the same directory as your document?

My own issue can be reproduced with a short test

a) create new document
b) add content
c) insert bibliography (Insert  List/TOC  Bibtex Bibliography) from the
directory where you keep your bibtex files.
d) add a citation
e) View the document
f) Save the document in Documents folder
g) Close the Acrobat Reader window
h) View the document
i) Citations are missing

LyX is storing relative directory names for the Insert. It is only when
document is saved in some other directory that later inserts will include
full path names.

My workaround is to include a b') step above to save the document.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM, sam samuel_f...@yahoo.com wrote:


 ... use insert --- list/toc to include file in the my document. ...
 However, any new file I create in the new version can not read the
 bibliography data. I checked the latex error message. It simply says
 undefined path


 Seen this occasionally myself with LyX v2.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. My
 workaround is to make sure that the path is correct when I Add the
 bibliography. I've not been able to reproduce it with any reproducible
 steps. I simply try again.

 Regards, Trevor.

  Re: deemed!




-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Problem with lyx 2 on Mac

[Trevor Jenkins]

Been a while I know but no one else has answered. But I have one question
for you: is the included file in the same directory as your document?

My own issue can be reproduced with a short test

a) create new document
b) add content
c) insert bibliography (Insert  List/TOC  Bibtex Bibliography) from the
directory where you keep your bibtex files.
d) add a citation
e) View the document
f) Save the document in Documents folder
g) Close the Acrobat Reader window
h) View the document
i) Citations are missing

LyX is storing relative directory names for the Insert. It is only when
document is saved in some other directory that later inserts will include
full path names.

My workaround is to include a b') step above to save the document.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM, sam samuel_f...@yahoo.com wrote:


 ... use insert --- list/toc to include file in the my document. ...
 However, any new file I create in the new version can not read the
 bibliography data. I checked the latex error message. It simply says
 undefined path


 Seen this occasionally myself with LyX v2.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. My
 workaround is to make sure that the path is correct when I Add the
 bibliography. I've not been able to reproduce it with any reproducible
 steps. I simply try again.

 Regards, Trevor.

  Re: deemed!




-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Problem with lyx 2 on Mac

[Trevor Jenkins]

Been a while I know but no one else has answered. But I have one question
for you: "is the included file in the same directory as your document?"

My own issue can be reproduced with a short test

a) create new document
b) add content
c) insert bibliography (Insert > List/TOC > Bibtex Bibliography) from the
directory where you keep your bibtex files.
d) add a citation
e) View the document
f) Save the document in Documents folder
g) Close the Acrobat Reader window
h) View the document
i) Citations are missing

LyX is storing relative directory names for the Insert. It is only when
document is saved in some other directory that later inserts will include
full path names.

My workaround is to include a b') step above to save the document.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Trevor Jenkins <bslwann...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM, sam <samuel_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> ... use insert ---> list/toc to include file in the my document. ...
>> However, any new file I create in the new version can not read the
>> bibliography data. I checked the latex error message. It simply says
>> "undefined path"
>>
>
> Seen this occasionally myself with LyX v2.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. My
> workaround is to make sure that the path is correct when I Add the
> bibliography. I've not been able to reproduce it with any reproducible
> steps. I simply try again.
>
> Regards, Trevor.
>
> <>< Re: deemed!
>



-- 
Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Mark Livingstone livingstonem...@gmail.com
 wrote:

On 14 July 2011 10:46, Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com wrote:



Alternatively you might want to consider using LifeLifes (open source so
 provided you have a C compiler can be run pretty much on many machine). It
 has a powerful report language and a LaTeX report script already exists.


I think you meant LifeLines at http://lifelines.sourceforge.net ?


Oops yes, LifeLines. Some of the report repositories listed there are no
longer available but on that are the OP should look for book-latex.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien]
 much less so.


Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even
exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author themselves.
Other users especially those trying to get started are overlooked. LyX has
the tutorial document, which is a good start. LaTeX has been around for so
long that beginners' documentation is rarely provided; we are all assumed to
be experts.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote:



:-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so
 important. It assumes few prerequisites.


 I do recall there being significant content at your site related to LaTeX,
 Steve, but I don't find it when I mouse over the links on the home page.
 Must be deeper in?


So still some prerequisites being assumed then.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Mark Livingstone livingstonem...@gmail.com
 wrote:

On 14 July 2011 10:46, Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com wrote:



Alternatively you might want to consider using LifeLifes (open source so
 provided you have a C compiler can be run pretty much on many machine). It
 has a powerful report language and a LaTeX report script already exists.


I think you meant LifeLines at http://lifelines.sourceforge.net ?


Oops yes, LifeLines. Some of the report repositories listed there are no
longer available but on that are the OP should look for book-latex.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien]
 much less so.


Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even
exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author themselves.
Other users especially those trying to get started are overlooked. LyX has
the tutorial document, which is a good start. LaTeX has been around for so
long that beginners' documentation is rarely provided; we are all assumed to
be experts.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote:



:-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so
 important. It assumes few prerequisites.


 I do recall there being significant content at your site related to LaTeX,
 Steve, but I don't find it when I mouse over the links on the home page.
 Must be deeper in?


So still some prerequisites being assumed then.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Mark Livingstone <livingstonem...@gmail.com
> wrote:

On 14 July 2011 10:46, Trevor Jenkins <bslwann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>
Alternatively you might want to consider using LifeLifes (open source so
>> provided you have a C compiler can be run pretty much on many machine). It
>> has a powerful report language and a LaTeX report script already exists.
>>
>
I think you meant LifeLines at http://lifelines.sourceforge.net ?


Oops yes, LifeLines. Some of the report repositories listed there are no
longer available but on that are the OP should look for book-latex.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:

The documentation for memoir [memman] is forbidding, for koma [scrguien]
> much less so.


Sadly this seems to be the modern tradition. Documentation, if it even
exists, is targeted to the advanced user or the class author themselves.
Other users especially those trying to get started are overlooked. LyX has
the tutorial document, which is a good start. LaTeX has been around for so
long that beginners' documentation is rarely provided; we are all assumed to
be experts.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

>
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>

>
:-) That's why the documentation on Troubleshooters.Com is so
>> important. It assumes few prerequisites.
>>
>
> I do recall there being significant content at your site related to LaTeX,
> Steve, but I don't find it when I mouse over the links on the home page.
> Must be deeper in?
>

So still some prerequisites being assumed then.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:31 AM, steve_...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

I am wondering if it is conceivable to generate (with a script) Lyx files,
 that can be later opened in Lyx to perform final editing/touch-ups before
 generating my final book?


Conceivable yes, practical maybe. It will depend as much on what you are
using to create the documents you will process into LyX file format. Is that
original format documented? Is its markup procedural ('bold this', 'font
size 12 that', 'font size 25 the other') rather than structural ('emphasis
here', 'body text here', 'heading here')? LyX because it is derived from
LaTeX is toward the structured end of the origination continuum so
converting from pure procedural to LyX/LaTeX will be difficult to do.

On the general task of converting one format to another take a XSLT and how
it can be used to restructure (structured) documents. Maybe even look at the
DocBook tool chain and especially the stylesheets made available by OASIS.
(There is some support in LyX for DocBook by the way.)


 Is their some documentation on the Lyx file format somewhere?
 Will the Lyx format be easier or harder to manage than dealing directly
 with Latex format?


Being something of a renegade I'd say work with LaTeX and then import that
into LyX. Not least because others can process LaTeX even if they don't have
LyX.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Portable version of LyX? [solved]

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Karl Linek k...@linek.at wrote:

This is very easy and does its job fine. Why then this projekt ist
 abandoned? It should be easy to do and it ist very important for the
 project. Many people dont carry always their notebook around. But the
 usb-stick is easy to transport. I hope there is one, who is willing to

update LyTeX.


There are more issues involved here than whether LyX can be made portable.
Some organisations have an clause in their employment contract that using
unapproved or unauthorised software is a dismissable offence with
instantenous dismissal. Just because one can (use LyX on someone else's
system) does not mean that one should.

Also the LyX user does not know what other software is running on the
machine they put their stick into. There may be botnets (4.5millions
machines supposedly running the TDL botnet for example), keyloggers, viruses
and such.

While I appreciate that a portable LyX would be useful (for example, as a
Mac user with LyX installed on all my own machines, I find it frustrating
that on customer/client machines I don't have LyX available to me) let's not
be naive about the implications of what we are doing when using portable
software.

Now maybe if someone developed a cloud version of LyX then these real
objections would be removed but until that happens let's not compromise
ourselves.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX.
But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press
cycle; it's about presentation. Don't get me wrong its f***ing good
presentation given that LaTeX is behind it but none the less it's primarily
about presentation.

Scrivener is near the beginning through to almost the end of that cycle. It
is for research, for organisation, for establishing logical flow though the
document. I wouldn't use LyX for any of those tasks because it maintains the
entire text on the screen at all times even with the (unless I'm away from
my Mac-based intranet and LyX is all I have).

More than once my use of Scrivener has made me realise that I'm duplicating
something in the narrative flow of the document (through using the corkboard
or outliner displays). The Navigate menu in LyX is not a patch on neither
can it hold a candle up to Scriveners corkboard and outliner modes. The
document binder means it is trivial to restructure a document.

There's also the GUI issue. LyX is a portable product. Scrivener was written
for Mac OS X and is (has been) tightly coupled to it. Being a Mac zealot I
find LyX menus, structures and personalisation more difficult to adapt to on
Macs. As a product it does what it is supposed to and does it well enough in
an OS X environment (certainly better than than having to run the X server
as other writing tools would require) but I wouldn't use LyX as my primary
writing tool. Scrivener is that tool and from it I Multimarkdown the
near-completed document for a final burnish with LyX before publication.
This Mac OS X-ness may change with the recent announcement that Scrivener
now exists in a Windows version.

As an aside I use Journler as a commonplace book for keeping quotations,
reflections and general ideas prior to writing documents. When writing a
document I copy-and-paste the quotes from Journler to Scrivener. Some quotes
and reflections never get out of the commonplace setting but they ready for
me to access. Sadly Journler is no longer maintained.

Again I wouldn't be without LyX for what it does but I don't beleive it is a
tool that covers the entire writing task. Keep both I say and make the best
of Lyx and of Scrivener.

Remember though that the final presentation of your document has little to
do with LyX itself and everything to do with LaTeX. If you want to create
your own presentation formats then concentrate on that first. Then adapt LyX
to support your requirements. Personally I concentrate on the document
content and leave the presentation to the defaults of the various LaTeX
document classes I have available (everything from TeXlive 2010 in fact).

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 I have been dancing around moving to LyX/LaTeX for formatting and printing
 documents. I have the MacTeX installation of the full TeX Live package and
 LyX 2.0. For longer writing projects I use Scrivener, which can compile
 Multimarkdown encoded documents to LaTeX.  I am a complete novice regarding
 LyX/LaTeX, having completed about half of the LyX tutorial, and tried
 importing, formatting and printing a few simple shorter and longer
 documents. I plan to devote the day to completing the tutorial.

 My writing is mostly letters, memos, short to medium length reports, and
 longer projects including proposals and articles. I always keep formatting
 to the simplest minimum possible. I would like to make the break and
 actually start using LyX/LaTeX, focusing initially on shorter documents. So
 far this has involved importing text or LaTeX coded documents into LyX,
 modifying the format to suit my tastes using the menu and toolbar. My
 ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In
 addition, I have to start from scratch with each document. I am not
 developing what I think in LyX/LaTeX are called layouts that could be used
 repeatedly.

 I am conscious of the fact that this may be the kind of excessively broad
 question that makes it difficult for knowledgeable people to be helpful.
 Nevertheless, since I am to a large extent at a loss regarding the answer I
 will ask it: Where do I start? Perhaps better, how do I go about creating a
 layout for a document type. At this point the document would be very simple,
 e.g., a few pages, a flush left title with up to three lines of single
 spaced bold text using the same font only slightly larger than the body
 text, and a few flush left bolded section heads using the same font the same
 size as the body text.

 I understand that to getting conversant with LyX/LaTeX will require more
 than a little reading and study. My experience with software has been that I
 learn best in the context of trying to actually use the software.

 If anyone can venture a suggestion that would help me get going I would be
 very grateful.

 Sincerely,

 

Re: SV: tufte class query

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu 
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote:

 Hi,
  The tufte class title and author name is slanted. How to get those
 upright?
 
  Have you tried to use emphasis or the text style dialog. Worked for me in
 my test of

 tufte book...


Works for me too,


 I want upright not slanted. Also it gives me error,

 |  \title{\emph{Lecture Notes}}
 |
 | I've run across a `}' that doesn't seem to match anything


Try using LyX own ephm*asis* feature (on my Mac that's Cmd-E) with the text
of the element selected. That's how I got it to work.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Tufte Handout Title (again) and TOC

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu 
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote:

 Hi,
 I want my tufte handout title look like these ;
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/1.6.x/sample-handout.lyx


Um, that LyX file and the class authors' own PDF equivalent do not have
non-slanted fonts in the headings.


 Can anyone guide in this please? I do not want slanted (italic) font.

 For TOC in handout mode, my \section and \subsections are not seen? Any
 help on this too?


Not sure I'd expect a ToC to be included in a handout (using any class).

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Tufte Handout Title (again) and TOC

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu 
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote:

 * Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com [110713 23:32]:
  
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/1.6.x/sample-handout.lyx
  
 
  Um, that LyX file and the class authors' own PDF equivalent do not have
  non-slanted fonts in the headings.

 Are you sure? AN EXAMPLE OF THE USAGE OF THE
 TUFTE - HANDOUT STYLE. This title seems to be upright.
 How did the author get that?


In the sample (from the class's authors) the title and all headings are
italicised. On the second and subsequent pages the title's text is rendered
in all caps as the page head; is what you mean? (You'll have to look at the
class's LaTeX source for how they did it; it isn't a LyX feature.)

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Stephen George
steve_...@optusnet.com.auwrote:

A couple of you asked what I intend to do (how complicated).

 I'll be dragging data from a data base populated with genealogy data


GEDCOM? There's an example in an early edition of Michael Kay's book on
using XSLT (Wrox Press) taking GEDCOM data and using XSLT to transform it
into an XML format.

Alternatively you might want to consider using LifeLifes (open source so
provided you have a C compiler can be run pretty much on many machine). It
has a powerful report language and a LaTeX report script already exists.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:31 AM, steve_...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

I am wondering if it is conceivable to generate (with a script) Lyx files,
 that can be later opened in Lyx to perform final editing/touch-ups before
 generating my final book?


Conceivable yes, practical maybe. It will depend as much on what you are
using to create the documents you will process into LyX file format. Is that
original format documented? Is its markup procedural ('bold this', 'font
size 12 that', 'font size 25 the other') rather than structural ('emphasis
here', 'body text here', 'heading here')? LyX because it is derived from
LaTeX is toward the structured end of the origination continuum so
converting from pure procedural to LyX/LaTeX will be difficult to do.

On the general task of converting one format to another take a XSLT and how
it can be used to restructure (structured) documents. Maybe even look at the
DocBook tool chain and especially the stylesheets made available by OASIS.
(There is some support in LyX for DocBook by the way.)


 Is their some documentation on the Lyx file format somewhere?
 Will the Lyx format be easier or harder to manage than dealing directly
 with Latex format?


Being something of a renegade I'd say work with LaTeX and then import that
into LyX. Not least because others can process LaTeX even if they don't have
LyX.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Portable version of LyX? [solved]

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Karl Linek k...@linek.at wrote:

This is very easy and does its job fine. Why then this projekt ist
 abandoned? It should be easy to do and it ist very important for the
 project. Many people dont carry always their notebook around. But the
 usb-stick is easy to transport. I hope there is one, who is willing to

update LyTeX.


There are more issues involved here than whether LyX can be made portable.
Some organisations have an clause in their employment contract that using
unapproved or unauthorised software is a dismissable offence with
instantenous dismissal. Just because one can (use LyX on someone else's
system) does not mean that one should.

Also the LyX user does not know what other software is running on the
machine they put their stick into. There may be botnets (4.5millions
machines supposedly running the TDL botnet for example), keyloggers, viruses
and such.

While I appreciate that a portable LyX would be useful (for example, as a
Mac user with LyX installed on all my own machines, I find it frustrating
that on customer/client machines I don't have LyX available to me) let's not
be naive about the implications of what we are doing when using portable
software.

Now maybe if someone developed a cloud version of LyX then these real
objections would be removed but until that happens let's not compromise
ourselves.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX.
But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press
cycle; it's about presentation. Don't get me wrong its f***ing good
presentation given that LaTeX is behind it but none the less it's primarily
about presentation.

Scrivener is near the beginning through to almost the end of that cycle. It
is for research, for organisation, for establishing logical flow though the
document. I wouldn't use LyX for any of those tasks because it maintains the
entire text on the screen at all times even with the (unless I'm away from
my Mac-based intranet and LyX is all I have).

More than once my use of Scrivener has made me realise that I'm duplicating
something in the narrative flow of the document (through using the corkboard
or outliner displays). The Navigate menu in LyX is not a patch on neither
can it hold a candle up to Scriveners corkboard and outliner modes. The
document binder means it is trivial to restructure a document.

There's also the GUI issue. LyX is a portable product. Scrivener was written
for Mac OS X and is (has been) tightly coupled to it. Being a Mac zealot I
find LyX menus, structures and personalisation more difficult to adapt to on
Macs. As a product it does what it is supposed to and does it well enough in
an OS X environment (certainly better than than having to run the X server
as other writing tools would require) but I wouldn't use LyX as my primary
writing tool. Scrivener is that tool and from it I Multimarkdown the
near-completed document for a final burnish with LyX before publication.
This Mac OS X-ness may change with the recent announcement that Scrivener
now exists in a Windows version.

As an aside I use Journler as a commonplace book for keeping quotations,
reflections and general ideas prior to writing documents. When writing a
document I copy-and-paste the quotes from Journler to Scrivener. Some quotes
and reflections never get out of the commonplace setting but they ready for
me to access. Sadly Journler is no longer maintained.

Again I wouldn't be without LyX for what it does but I don't beleive it is a
tool that covers the entire writing task. Keep both I say and make the best
of Lyx and of Scrivener.

Remember though that the final presentation of your document has little to
do with LyX itself and everything to do with LaTeX. If you want to create
your own presentation formats then concentrate on that first. Then adapt LyX
to support your requirements. Personally I concentrate on the document
content and leave the presentation to the defaults of the various LaTeX
document classes I have available (everything from TeXlive 2010 in fact).

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 I have been dancing around moving to LyX/LaTeX for formatting and printing
 documents. I have the MacTeX installation of the full TeX Live package and
 LyX 2.0. For longer writing projects I use Scrivener, which can compile
 Multimarkdown encoded documents to LaTeX.  I am a complete novice regarding
 LyX/LaTeX, having completed about half of the LyX tutorial, and tried
 importing, formatting and printing a few simple shorter and longer
 documents. I plan to devote the day to completing the tutorial.

 My writing is mostly letters, memos, short to medium length reports, and
 longer projects including proposals and articles. I always keep formatting
 to the simplest minimum possible. I would like to make the break and
 actually start using LyX/LaTeX, focusing initially on shorter documents. So
 far this has involved importing text or LaTeX coded documents into LyX,
 modifying the format to suit my tastes using the menu and toolbar. My
 ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In
 addition, I have to start from scratch with each document. I am not
 developing what I think in LyX/LaTeX are called layouts that could be used
 repeatedly.

 I am conscious of the fact that this may be the kind of excessively broad
 question that makes it difficult for knowledgeable people to be helpful.
 Nevertheless, since I am to a large extent at a loss regarding the answer I
 will ask it: Where do I start? Perhaps better, how do I go about creating a
 layout for a document type. At this point the document would be very simple,
 e.g., a few pages, a flush left title with up to three lines of single
 spaced bold text using the same font only slightly larger than the body
 text, and a few flush left bolded section heads using the same font the same
 size as the body text.

 I understand that to getting conversant with LyX/LaTeX will require more
 than a little reading and study. My experience with software has been that I
 learn best in the context of trying to actually use the software.

 If anyone can venture a suggestion that would help me get going I would be
 very grateful.

 Sincerely,

 

Re: SV: tufte class query

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu 
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote:

 Hi,
  The tufte class title and author name is slanted. How to get those
 upright?
 
  Have you tried to use emphasis or the text style dialog. Worked for me in
 my test of

 tufte book...


Works for me too,


 I want upright not slanted. Also it gives me error,

 |  \title{\emph{Lecture Notes}}
 |
 | I've run across a `}' that doesn't seem to match anything


Try using LyX own ephm*asis* feature (on my Mac that's Cmd-E) with the text
of the element selected. That's how I got it to work.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Tufte Handout Title (again) and TOC

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu 
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote:

 Hi,
 I want my tufte handout title look like these ;
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/1.6.x/sample-handout.lyx


Um, that LyX file and the class authors' own PDF equivalent do not have
non-slanted fonts in the headings.


 Can anyone guide in this please? I do not want slanted (italic) font.

 For TOC in handout mode, my \section and \subsections are not seen? Any
 help on this too?


Not sure I'd expect a ToC to be included in a handout (using any class).

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Tufte Handout Title (again) and TOC

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu 
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org wrote:

 * Trevor Jenkins bslwann...@gmail.com [110713 23:32]:
  
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/1.6.x/sample-handout.lyx
  
 
  Um, that LyX file and the class authors' own PDF equivalent do not have
  non-slanted fonts in the headings.

 Are you sure? AN EXAMPLE OF THE USAGE OF THE
 TUFTE - HANDOUT STYLE. This title seems to be upright.
 How did the author get that?


In the sample (from the class's authors) the title and all headings are
italicised. On the second and subsequent pages the title's text is rendered
in all caps as the page head; is what you mean? (You'll have to look at the
class's LaTeX source for how they did it; it isn't a LyX feature.)

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Stephen George
steve_...@optusnet.com.auwrote:

A couple of you asked what I intend to do (how complicated).

 I'll be dragging data from a data base populated with genealogy data


GEDCOM? There's an example in an early edition of Michael Kay's book on
using XSLT (Wrox Press) taking GEDCOM data and using XSLT to transform it
into an XML format.

Alternatively you might want to consider using LifeLifes (open source so
provided you have a C compiler can be run pretty much on many machine). It
has a powerful report language and a LaTeX report script already exists.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:31 AM,  wrote:

I am wondering if it is conceivable to generate (with a script) Lyx files,
> that can be later opened in Lyx to perform final editing/touch-ups before
> generating my final book?
>

Conceivable yes, practical maybe. It will depend as much on what you are
using to create the documents you will process into LyX file format. Is that
original format documented? Is its markup procedural ('bold this', 'font
size 12 that', 'font size 25 the other') rather than structural ('emphasis
here', 'body text here', 'heading here')? LyX because it is derived from
LaTeX is toward the structured end of the origination continuum so
converting from pure procedural to LyX/LaTeX will be difficult to do.

On the general task of converting one format to another take a XSLT and how
it can be used to restructure (structured) documents. Maybe even look at the
DocBook tool chain and especially the stylesheets made available by OASIS.
(There is some support in LyX for DocBook by the way.)


> Is their some documentation on the Lyx file format somewhere?
> Will the Lyx format be easier or harder to manage than dealing directly
> with Latex format?
>

Being something of a renegade I'd say work with LaTeX and then import that
into LyX. Not least because others can process LaTeX even if they don't have
LyX.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Portable version of LyX? [solved]

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Karl Linek  wrote:

This is very easy and does its job fine. Why then this projekt ist
> abandoned? It should be easy to do and it ist very important for the
> project. Many people dont carry always their notebook around. But the
> usb-stick is easy to transport. I hope there is one, who is willing to

update LyTeX.


There are more issues involved here than whether LyX can be made portable.
Some organisations have an clause in their employment contract that using
unapproved or unauthorised software is a dismissable offence with
instantenous dismissal. Just because one can (use LyX on someone else's
system) does not mean that one should.

Also the LyX user does not know what other software is running on the
machine they put their stick into. There may be botnets (4.5millions
machines supposedly running the TDL botnet for example), keyloggers, viruses
and such.

While I appreciate that a portable LyX would be useful (for example, as a
Mac user with LyX installed on all my own machines, I find it frustrating
that on customer/client machines I don't have LyX available to me) let's not
be naive about the implications of what we are doing when using portable
software.

Now maybe if someone developed a "cloud" version of LyX then these real
objections would be removed but until that happens let's not compromise
ourselves.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Guidance in starting to use LyX/LaTex

[Trevor Jenkins]

I'm a Mac user too and make extensive use of both Scrivener and LyX/LaTeX.
But they are no competitive products. LyX is at the end of the pre-press
cycle; it's about presentation. Don't get me wrong its f***ing good
presentation given that LaTeX is behind it but none the less it's primarily
about presentation.

Scrivener is near the beginning through to almost the end of that cycle. It
is for research, for organisation, for establishing logical flow though the
document. I wouldn't use LyX for any of those tasks because it maintains the
entire text on the screen at all times even with the (unless I'm away from
my Mac-based intranet and LyX is all I have).

More than once my use of Scrivener has made me realise that I'm duplicating
something in the narrative flow of the document (through using the corkboard
or outliner displays). The Navigate menu in LyX is not a patch on neither
can it hold a candle up to Scriveners corkboard and outliner modes. The
document binder means it is trivial to restructure a document.

There's also the GUI issue. LyX is a portable product. Scrivener was written
for Mac OS X and is (has been) tightly coupled to it. Being a Mac zealot I
find LyX menus, structures and personalisation more difficult to adapt to on
Macs. As a product it does what it is supposed to and does it well enough in
an OS X environment (certainly better than than having to run the X server
as other writing tools would require) but I wouldn't use LyX as my primary
writing tool. Scrivener is that tool and from it I Multimarkdown the
near-completed document for a final burnish with LyX before publication.
This Mac OS X-ness may change with the recent announcement that Scrivener
now exists in a Windows version.

As an aside I use Journler as a "commonplace book" for keeping quotations,
reflections and general ideas prior to writing documents. When writing a
document I copy-and-paste the quotes from Journler to Scrivener. Some quotes
and reflections never get out of the commonplace setting but they ready for
me to access. Sadly Journler is no longer maintained.

Again I wouldn't be without LyX for what it does but I don't beleive it is a
tool that covers the entire writing task. Keep both I say and make the best
of Lyx and of Scrivener.

Remember though that the final presentation of your document has little to
do with LyX itself and everything to do with LaTeX. If you want to create
your own presentation formats then concentrate on that first. Then adapt LyX
to support your requirements. Personally I concentrate on the document
content and leave the presentation to the defaults of the various LaTeX
document classes I have available (everything from TeXlive 2010 in fact).

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

>
> I have been dancing around moving to LyX/LaTeX for formatting and printing
> documents. I have the MacTeX installation of the full TeX Live package and
> LyX 2.0. For longer writing projects I use Scrivener, which can compile
> Multimarkdown encoded documents to LaTeX.  I am a complete novice regarding
> LyX/LaTeX, having completed about half of the LyX tutorial, and tried
> importing, formatting and printing a few simple shorter and longer
> documents. I plan to devote the day to completing the tutorial.
>
> My writing is mostly letters, memos, short to medium length reports, and
> longer projects including proposals and articles. I always keep formatting
> to the simplest minimum possible. I would like to make the break and
> actually start using LyX/LaTeX, focusing initially on shorter documents. So
> far this has involved importing text or LaTeX coded documents into LyX,
> modifying the format to suit my tastes using the menu and toolbar. My
> ability to make documents look the way I want them to is limited. In
> addition, I have to start from scratch with each document. I am not
> developing what I think in LyX/LaTeX are called "layouts" that could be used
> repeatedly.
>
> I am conscious of the fact that this may be the kind of excessively broad
> question that makes it difficult for knowledgeable people to be helpful.
> Nevertheless, since I am to a large extent at a loss regarding the answer I
> will ask it: Where do I start? Perhaps better, how do I go about creating a
> layout for a document type. At this point the document would be very simple,
> e.g., a few pages, a flush left title with up to three lines of single
> spaced bold text using the same font only slightly larger than the body
> text, and a few flush left bolded section heads using the same font the same
> size as the body text.
>
> I understand that to getting conversant with LyX/LaTeX will require more
> than a little reading and study. My experience with software has been that I
> learn best in the context of trying to actually use the software.
>
> If anyone can venture a suggestion that would help me get going I would be
> very grateful.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> 

Re: SV: tufte class query

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu <
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> > >The tufte class title and author name is slanted. How to get those
> upright?
> >
> > Have you tried to use emphasis or the text style dialog. Worked for me in
> my test of
>
> tufte book...
>

Works for me too,


> I want upright not slanted. Also it gives me error,
>
> |  \title{\emph{Lecture Notes}}
> |
> | I've run across a `}' that doesn't seem to match anything


Try using LyX own ephm*asis* feature (on my Mac that's Cmd-E) with the text
of the element selected. That's how I got it to work.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Tufte Handout Title (again) and TOC

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu <
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> I want my tufte handout title look like these ;
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/1.6.x/sample-handout.lyx
>

Um, that LyX file and the class authors' own PDF equivalent do not have
non-slanted fonts in the headings.


> Can anyone guide in this please? I do not want slanted (italic) font.
>
> For TOC in handout mode, my \section and \subsections are not seen? Any
> help on this too?
>

Not sure I'd expect a ToC to be included in a handout (using any class).

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Tufte Handout Title (again) and TOC

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Kulkarni Shantanu <
m...@lists.shantanukulkarni.org> wrote:

> * Trevor Jenkins <bslwann...@gmail.com> [110713 23:32]:
> > >
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/1.6.x/sample-handout.lyx
> > >
> >
> > Um, that LyX file and the class authors' own PDF equivalent do not have
> > non-slanted fonts in the headings.
>
> Are you sure? "AN EXAMPLE OF THE USAGE OF THE
> TUFTE - HANDOUT STYLE". This title seems to be upright.
> How did the author get that?
>

In the sample (from the class's authors) the title and all headings are
italicised. On the second and subsequent pages the title's text is rendered
in all caps as the page head; is what you mean? (You'll have to look at the
class's LaTeX source for how they did it; it isn't a LyX feature.)

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Lyx file format ?

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Stephen George
wrote:

A couple of you asked what I intend to do (how complicated).
>
> I'll be dragging data from a data base populated with genealogy data


GEDCOM? There's an example in an early edition of Michael Kay's book on
using XSLT (Wrox Press) taking GEDCOM data and using XSLT to transform it
into an XML format.

Alternatively you might want to consider using LifeLifes (open source so
provided you have a C compiler can be run pretty much on many machine). It
has a powerful report language and a LaTeX report script already exists.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Problem with lyx 2 on Mac

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM, sam samuel_f...@yahoo.com wrote:


 ... use insert --- list/toc to include file in the my document. ...
 However, any new file I create in the new version can not read the
 bibliography data. I checked the latex error message. It simply says
 undefined path


Seen this occasionally myself with LyX v2.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. My
workaround is to make sure that the path is correct when I Add the
bibliography. I've not been able to reproduce it with any reproducible
steps. I simply try again.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Problem with lyx 2 on Mac

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM, sam samuel_f...@yahoo.com wrote:


 ... use insert --- list/toc to include file in the my document. ...
 However, any new file I create in the new version can not read the
 bibliography data. I checked the latex error message. It simply says
 undefined path


Seen this occasionally myself with LyX v2.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. My
workaround is to make sure that the path is correct when I Add the
bibliography. I've not been able to reproduce it with any reproducible
steps. I simply try again.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Problem with lyx 2 on Mac

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM, sam  wrote:

>
> ... use insert ---> list/toc to include file in the my document. ...
> However, any new file I create in the new version can not read the
> bibliography data. I checked the latex error message. It simply says
> "undefined path"
>

Seen this occasionally myself with LyX v2.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. My
workaround is to make sure that the path is correct when I Add the
bibliography. I've not been able to reproduce it with any reproducible
steps. I simply try again.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: need suggestion on book

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo
  said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything
  in which I need to see markup.
 
 As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have
 to put up with its bugs...


That is true of *every* piece of software. I'm sure that Knuth would say
there are still bugs in TeX; not many since it's at version 3.14159... but
there are some. And when it finally comes time to bump the version number to
PI there will still be bugs in it. His old colleague Edsger Dijkstra said
you can't test for the absence of bugs only their presence.


 The big advantage of using LaTeX is its
 reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a
 robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job.


Yup, by choice I'd use emacs (because I prefer to markup my client's
document using DOcBook and LyX's support for that is not robust or general
enough).


 LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time.

 This said, LyX is generally rock-solid.


See above; emacs is usually rock solid but even that throws surprises. Hey
Adobe is finding and fixing day zero bugs in Acrobat and Flash.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: need suggestion on book

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

  I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts
  are somewhat pale.

 On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century
 Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen-
 readable font for my pure eBooks.


Some recent work has suggested that readable fonts are not that useful.
Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme,
the Today Programme.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm

Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too-easy-to-read.html

Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research
on the blogs reachable from here

https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/

Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of
news reports to be had here

http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenheimer_2010.pdf

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: need suggestion on book

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote:

 I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo
  said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything
  in which I need to see markup.
 
 As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have
 to put up with its bugs...


That is true of *every* piece of software. I'm sure that Knuth would say
there are still bugs in TeX; not many since it's at version 3.14159... but
there are some. And when it finally comes time to bump the version number to
PI there will still be bugs in it. His old colleague Edsger Dijkstra said
you can't test for the absence of bugs only their presence.


 The big advantage of using LaTeX is its
 reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a
 robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job.


Yup, by choice I'd use emacs (because I prefer to markup my client's
document using DOcBook and LyX's support for that is not robust or general
enough).


 LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time.

 This said, LyX is generally rock-solid.


See above; emacs is usually rock solid but even that throws surprises. Hey
Adobe is finding and fixing day zero bugs in Acrobat and Flash.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: need suggestion on book

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

  I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts
  are somewhat pale.

 On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century
 Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen-
 readable font for my pure eBooks.


Some recent work has suggested that readable fonts are not that useful.
Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme,
the Today Programme.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm

Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too-easy-to-read.html

Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research
on the blogs reachable from here

https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/

Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of
news reports to be had here

http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenheimer_2010.pdf

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: need suggestion on book

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> I couldn't have said it better myself. And because of what Marcelo
> > said, I find LyX is a MUCH faster authoring environment than anything
> > in which I need to see markup.
> >
> As much as I agree with this, the one drawback of LyX is that you have
> to put up with its bugs...


That is true of *every* piece of software. I'm sure that Knuth would say
there are still bugs in TeX; not many since it's at version 3.14159... but
there are some. And when it finally comes time to bump the version number to
PI there will still be bugs in it. His old colleague Edsger Dijkstra said
you can't test for the absence of bugs only their presence.


> The big advantage of using LaTeX is its
> reliability: as long as you know exactly what you do, you only need a
> robust text editor (or another, or yet another one) to do the job.


Yup, by choice I'd use emacs (because I prefer to markup my client's
document using DOcBook and LyX's support for that is not robust or general
enough).


> LyX on the other hand can throw surprises from time to time.
>
> This said, LyX is generally rock-solid.


See above; emacs is usually rock solid but even that throws surprises. Hey
Adobe is finding and fixing day zero bugs in Acrobat and Flash.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: need suggestion on book

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

> > I am interested in which font do I use, because usually lyx fonts
> > are somewhat "pale".
>
> On my setup, Century Schoolbook is the least pale font. I use Century
> Schoolbook on all my books, although I'm looking for a more screen-
> readable font for my pure eBooks.
>

Some recent work has suggested that "readable" fonts are not that useful.
Try listening to this segment of the BBC's premier morning news programme,
the Today Programme.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_936/9360166.stm

Or there's a printed report on the Telegraph's web site

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/amazon/8256899/E-readers-too-easy-to-read.html

Alternatively you can read comments from a neuroscientist about the research
on the blogs reachable from here

https://policypress.wordpress.com/tag/jonah-lehrer/

Or there's a pre-print of the original paper that started this series of
news reports to be had here

http://web.princeton.edu/sites/opplab/papers/Diemand-Yauman_Oppenheimer_2010.pdf

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Importing LaTeX file fails

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Am 24.06.2011 19:02, schrieb Trevor Jenkins:


  I grabbed a copy of a tutorial on the use of Constraint Grammars from here
 http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/**2010/05/constraint-grammar-**tutorial/http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/2010/05/constraint-grammar-tutorial/The
  author
 provides a LaTeX file that latex processes correctly (other than that my
 system doesn't have a specific font installed). When I import this file
 into
 LyX it screws up after a Verbatim usage; there's an earlier one that LyX
 processes correctly but the second (longer one) is really screwed.


 Can you please report this as bug in our bugtracker:
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/**BugTrackerHomehttp://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome


Done and attached a copy of the specific file that causes the problem.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Importing LaTeX file fails

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Am 24.06.2011 19:02, schrieb Trevor Jenkins:


  I grabbed a copy of a tutorial on the use of Constraint Grammars from here
 http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/**2010/05/constraint-grammar-**tutorial/http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/2010/05/constraint-grammar-tutorial/The
  author
 provides a LaTeX file that latex processes correctly (other than that my
 system doesn't have a specific font installed). When I import this file
 into
 LyX it screws up after a Verbatim usage; there's an earlier one that LyX
 processes correctly but the second (longer one) is really screwed.


 Can you please report this as bug in our bugtracker:
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/**BugTrackerHomehttp://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome


Done and attached a copy of the specific file that causes the problem.

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Importing LaTeX file fails

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Uwe Stöhr <uwesto...@web.de> wrote:

> Am 24.06.2011 19:02, schrieb Trevor Jenkins:
>
>
>  I grabbed a copy of a tutorial on the use of Constraint Grammars from here
>> http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/**2010/05/constraint-grammar-**tutorial/<http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/2010/05/constraint-grammar-tutorial/>The
>>  author
>> provides a LaTeX file that latex processes correctly (other than that my
>> system doesn't have a specific font installed). When I import this file
>> into
>> LyX it screws up after a Verbatim usage; there's an earlier one that LyX
>> processes correctly but the second (longer one) is really screwed.
>>
>
> Can you please report this as bug in our bugtracker:
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/**BugTrackerHome<http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/BugTrackerHome>
>

Done and attached a copy of the specific file that causes the problem.

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Importing LaTeX file fails

[Trevor Jenkins]

I grabbed a copy of a tutorial on the use of Constraint Grammars from here
http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/2010/05/constraint-grammar-tutorial/ The author
provides a LaTeX file that latex processes correctly (other than that my
system doesn't have a specific font installed). When I import this file into
LyX it screws up after a Verbatim usage; there's an earlier one that LyX
processes correctly but the second (longer one) is really screwed.

What is it that LyX is getting wrong?

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Importing LaTeX file fails

[Trevor Jenkins]

I grabbed a copy of a tutorial on the use of Constraint Grammars from here
http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/2010/05/constraint-grammar-tutorial/ The author
provides a LaTeX file that latex processes correctly (other than that my
system doesn't have a specific font installed). When I import this file into
LyX it screws up after a Verbatim usage; there's an earlier one that LyX
processes correctly but the second (longer one) is really screwed.

What is it that LyX is getting wrong?

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Importing LaTeX file fails

[Trevor Jenkins]

I grabbed a copy of a tutorial on the use of Constraint Grammars from here
http://kevindonnelly.org.uk/2010/05/constraint-grammar-tutorial/ The author
provides a LaTeX file that latex processes correctly (other than that my
system doesn't have a specific font installed). When I import this file into
LyX it screws up after a Verbatim usage; there's an earlier one that LyX
processes correctly but the second (longer one) is really screwed.

What is it that LyX is getting wrong?

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: reinstall LyX 2.0.0 on OS X, templates, examples, layout, key-bind missing

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 22.06.2011 um 08:11 schrieb David Nuddleman:

  On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Zan wrote:
 
  Hello All,
 
  OS X 10.5.8, Fresh MacTex 2010
 
  I've attempted to install 2.0 over 1.6 and now have only empty folders
 in the Library/Application Support/Lyx-2.0 for templates, examples, layout,
 bind.  I deleted older LyX libraries prior to the reinstall, hoping for a
 fresh start.  I've done something wrong.  I've googled, peered into the mail
 archive, and read a couple mac wiki.  Any suggestions or pointing towards
 relevant information would be much appreciated. Thanks, Zan
 
  Inquiry to the list members met with no response, which disappointed and
 surprised me because I am seeking same information. It seems LyX is not
 supported on Mac as I would like.

 Hmm... LyX is free after all.


I never understand it when someone uses that as an excuse for a non-answer.


 And the information is available on the net already.
 Visit these links:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg169558.html
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.documentation/6887


A little cryptic.

It isn't clear to me (a Mac OS X user) which Library/Application Support/
sub-directory the original poster refers to. There is the system-wide
directory under /Library and the one under $HOME. Although I guess as there
is no Lyx-2.0 folder in the system-wide /Library on my Mac where LyX is
installed that the reference is to the $HOME location.

The standard templates and layouts that LyX uses are stored in the
application bundle for LyX rather than /Library, which I believe would be
the more Mac natural location. Depending on where you are when you look for
that content you may have to use an often overlooked key-modifier with your
mouse click (so overlooked I can't recall what it is at this moment). There
are regular posts here about the tutorial.lyx file being missing; it isn't
it just hidden in the bundle and needs that arcane knowledge in order to be
seen.

The templates and layouts that LyX can use from $HOME/Library/Application
Support/LyX-2.0 are the user's own versions (whether modified from standard
copies or self-developed). Immediately after installation the various
sub-directories are empty because nothing personal has been added to them.

As a workaround so you see something you can also follow this advice from Jens
Nöckel in a post on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:52 AM in response to a similar
question of mine.

 Just go to Preferences  Paths and change the field for Document
templates to /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/templates/

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: reinstall LyX 2.0.0 on OS X, templates, examples, layout, key-bind missing

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 22.06.2011 um 08:11 schrieb David Nuddleman:

  On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Zan wrote:
 
  Hello All,
 
  OS X 10.5.8, Fresh MacTex 2010
 
  I've attempted to install 2.0 over 1.6 and now have only empty folders
 in the Library/Application Support/Lyx-2.0 for templates, examples, layout,
 bind.  I deleted older LyX libraries prior to the reinstall, hoping for a
 fresh start.  I've done something wrong.  I've googled, peered into the mail
 archive, and read a couple mac wiki.  Any suggestions or pointing towards
 relevant information would be much appreciated. Thanks, Zan
 
  Inquiry to the list members met with no response, which disappointed and
 surprised me because I am seeking same information. It seems LyX is not
 supported on Mac as I would like.

 Hmm... LyX is free after all.


I never understand it when someone uses that as an excuse for a non-answer.


 And the information is available on the net already.
 Visit these links:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg169558.html
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.documentation/6887


A little cryptic.

It isn't clear to me (a Mac OS X user) which Library/Application Support/
sub-directory the original poster refers to. There is the system-wide
directory under /Library and the one under $HOME. Although I guess as there
is no Lyx-2.0 folder in the system-wide /Library on my Mac where LyX is
installed that the reference is to the $HOME location.

The standard templates and layouts that LyX uses are stored in the
application bundle for LyX rather than /Library, which I believe would be
the more Mac natural location. Depending on where you are when you look for
that content you may have to use an often overlooked key-modifier with your
mouse click (so overlooked I can't recall what it is at this moment). There
are regular posts here about the tutorial.lyx file being missing; it isn't
it just hidden in the bundle and needs that arcane knowledge in order to be
seen.

The templates and layouts that LyX can use from $HOME/Library/Application
Support/LyX-2.0 are the user's own versions (whether modified from standard
copies or self-developed). Immediately after installation the various
sub-directories are empty because nothing personal has been added to them.

As a workaround so you see something you can also follow this advice from Jens
Nöckel in a post on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:52 AM in response to a similar
question of mine.

 Just go to Preferences  Paths and change the field for Document
templates to /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/templates/

Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: reinstall LyX 2.0.0 on OS X, templates, examples, layout, key-bind missing

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 22.06.2011 um 08:11 schrieb David Nuddleman:
>
> > On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Zan wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> OS X 10.5.8, Fresh MacTex 2010
> >>
> >> I've attempted to install 2.0 over 1.6 and now have only empty folders
> in the Library/Application Support/Lyx-2.0 for templates, examples, layout,
> bind.  I deleted older LyX libraries prior to the reinstall, hoping for a
> fresh start.  I've done something wrong.  I've googled, peered into the mail
> archive, and read a couple mac wiki.  Any suggestions or pointing towards
> relevant information would be much appreciated. Thanks, Zan
> >
> > Inquiry to the list members met with no response, which disappointed and
> surprised me because I am seeking same information. It seems LyX is not
> supported on Mac as I would like.
>
> Hmm... LyX is free after all.
>

I never understand it when someone uses that as an excuse for a non-answer.


> And the information is available on the net already.
> Visit these links:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg169558.html
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.documentation/6887
>

A little cryptic.

It isn't clear to me (a Mac OS X user) which Library/Application Support/
sub-directory the original poster refers to. There is the system-wide
directory under /Library and the one under $HOME. Although I guess as there
is no Lyx-2.0 folder in the system-wide /Library on my Mac where LyX is
installed that the reference is to the $HOME location.

The standard templates and layouts that LyX uses are stored in the
application bundle for LyX rather than /Library, which I believe would be
the more Mac natural location. Depending on where you are when you look for
that content you may have to use an often overlooked key-modifier with your
mouse click (so overlooked I can't recall what it is at this moment). There
are regular posts here about the tutorial.lyx file being missing; it isn't
it just hidden in the bundle and needs that arcane knowledge in order to be
seen.

The templates and layouts that LyX can use from $HOME/Library/Application
Support/LyX-2.0 are the user's own versions (whether modified from standard
copies or self-developed). Immediately after installation the various
sub-directories are empty because nothing personal has been added to them.

As a workaround so you see something you can also follow this advice from Jens
Nöckel in a post on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:52 AM in response to a similar
question of mine.

> Just go to Preferences > Paths and change the field for "Document
templates" to /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/templates/

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: Copying a table column crashes LyX

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 06/20/2011 06:58 PM, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
 
  On 20/06/2011 8:18 p.m., Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
  Il 20/06/2011 01:28, Andrew Parsloe ha scritto:
  I created a table and made some settings then, in the right-click menu
  chose More...  Copy Column and Lyx crashed with the message
 
  LyX has caught an exception ...
  Exception: iconv problem in iconv_codecvt_facet initialization
 
  To reproduce, just create a table and try to copy a column using the
  context menu (or Alt-M C C).
 
  LyX 2.0 Windows Vista
 
  I cannot reproduce this problem on Linux (2.0.0 and trunk versions).
  Can you detail please what was the size of the table you were playing
  with, what special settings did you apply, and whether you were copying
  the first, middle or last column ?
 
  Thanks,
 
  T.
 
 
  I get the crash for any table. For instance I've opened a new article
  class document, gone to the insert table button and inserted an empty
  2 by 2 table, made no further settings, placed the cursor in the top
  left cell and clicked on Copy Column. I get the Exception message.
  Actually a bit more experimenting shows that if the cursor is in the
  *last* column of a table, Lyx crashes directly without the Exception
  message.
 
 No problem here, either, I'm afraid. This being on Fedora 14 with Qt 4.7.2.

 The iconv bit is strange What's the document language?

 Richard


No problem for me either running LyX v2.0.0 on Mac OS X. I created a new
article class document, added that 2x2 table and then copied the first
column (more than once) without any problems.

(Well the only problem was GMail not getting the Reply-To: right on my
earlier attempt to reply here.)

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Copying a table column crashes LyX

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 06/20/2011 06:58 PM, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
 
  On 20/06/2011 8:18 p.m., Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
  Il 20/06/2011 01:28, Andrew Parsloe ha scritto:
  I created a table and made some settings then, in the right-click menu
  chose More...  Copy Column and Lyx crashed with the message
 
  LyX has caught an exception ...
  Exception: iconv problem in iconv_codecvt_facet initialization
 
  To reproduce, just create a table and try to copy a column using the
  context menu (or Alt-M C C).
 
  LyX 2.0 Windows Vista
 
  I cannot reproduce this problem on Linux (2.0.0 and trunk versions).
  Can you detail please what was the size of the table you were playing
  with, what special settings did you apply, and whether you were copying
  the first, middle or last column ?
 
  Thanks,
 
  T.
 
 
  I get the crash for any table. For instance I've opened a new article
  class document, gone to the insert table button and inserted an empty
  2 by 2 table, made no further settings, placed the cursor in the top
  left cell and clicked on Copy Column. I get the Exception message.
  Actually a bit more experimenting shows that if the cursor is in the
  *last* column of a table, Lyx crashes directly without the Exception
  message.
 
 No problem here, either, I'm afraid. This being on Fedora 14 with Qt 4.7.2.

 The iconv bit is strange What's the document language?

 Richard


No problem for me either running LyX v2.0.0 on Mac OS X. I created a new
article class document, added that 2x2 table and then copied the first
column (more than once) without any problems.

(Well the only problem was GMail not getting the Reply-To: right on my
earlier attempt to reply here.)

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Copying a table column crashes LyX

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:

> On 06/20/2011 06:58 PM, Andrew Parsloe wrote:
> >
> > On 20/06/2011 8:18 p.m., Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
> >> Il 20/06/2011 01:28, Andrew Parsloe ha scritto:
> >>> I created a table and made some settings then, in the right-click menu
> >>> chose More... > Copy Column and Lyx crashed with the message
> >>>
> >>> LyX has caught an exception ...
> >>> Exception: iconv problem in iconv_codecvt_facet initialization
> >>>
> >>> To reproduce, just create a table and try to copy a column using the
> >>> context menu (or Alt-M C C).
> >>>
> >>> LyX 2.0 Windows Vista
> >>
> >> I cannot reproduce this problem on Linux (2.0.0 and trunk versions).
> >> Can you detail please what was the size of the table you were playing
> >> with, what special settings did you apply, and whether you were copying
> >> the first, middle or last column ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> T.
> >>
> >
> > I get the crash for any table. For instance I've opened a new article
> > class document, gone to the insert table button and inserted an empty
> > 2 by 2 table, made no further settings, placed the cursor in the top
> > left cell and clicked on Copy Column. I get the Exception message.
> > Actually a bit more experimenting shows that if the cursor is in the
> > *last* column of a table, Lyx crashes directly without the Exception
> > message.
> >
> No problem here, either, I'm afraid. This being on Fedora 14 with Qt 4.7.2.
>
> The iconv bit is strange What's the document language?
>
> Richard
>

No problem for me either running LyX v2.0.0 on Mac OS X. I created a new
article class document, added that 2x2 table and then copied the first
column (more than once) without any problems.

(Well the only problem was GMail not getting the Reply-To: right on my
earlier attempt to reply here.)

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

[Trevor Jenkins]

I don't have answer but a related question.

Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't warrant
being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might to
that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).

As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your entrie
rather than all of them in all LyX files.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen 
torq...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
 citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be able
 to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done in
 a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?

 Will LyX have a self-contained bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
 where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
 stored in the *.lyx file.

 Best regards
 Torquil Sørensen




-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

[Trevor Jenkins]

I don't have answer but a related question.

Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't warrant
being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might to
that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).

As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your entrie
rather than all of them in all LyX files.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen 
torq...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
 citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be able
 to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done in
 a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?

 Will LyX have a self-contained bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
 where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
 stored in the *.lyx file.

 Best regards
 Torquil Sørensen




-- 
Regards, Trevor.

 Re: deemed!

Re: Bibliography without bibtex file

[Trevor Jenkins]

I don't have answer but a related question.

Occasionally I want to include a citation in a document that doesn't warrant
being added to my set of LaTeX .bib files. I can't figure out how I might to
that in LyX (other than hard coding the TeX stuff by hand).

As to your specific question I agree with Manolo Martinez the overhead of
including more than an *ad hoc* citation will result in your LyX file(s)
becoming bloated. You will probably save effort by using a dedicated
bilbiography management tool such as BibDesk or Jabref. Not least saving
time and face by only having the need to update a single copy of your entrie
rather than all of them in all LyX files.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen <
torq...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> What is the simplest way of working with a LyX document involving
> citations, without using a bibtex file for each LyX file? I want to be able
> to use the LyX frontend to select citations from a list. Can this be done in
> a way that does not involve a separate bibtex file?
>
> Will LyX have a "self-contained" bibliography system sometime? I.e. one
> where you both insert and retrieve citations within LyX, and it is all
> stored in the *.lyx file.
>
> Best regards
> Torquil Sørensen
>



-- 
Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

Re: indent in bibliograph in LyX 2.0.0

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Hwan C. Lin hwan...@gmail.com wrote:

Can one tell me how to remove indent in bibliograph in LyX 2.0.0?


There isn't enough information in that to help you.  What document class are
you using? What bibliography style? Either or both of those may cause an
indent so you need to be more precise.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: indent in bibliograph in LyX 2.0.0

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Hwan C. Lin wrote:
  Can one tell me how to remove indent in bibliograph in LyX 2.0.0?

 Edit  Paragraph Settings. Remove the string from the Longest Label input
 field. This is a bug.


Interesting, for me Longest Label is greyed out (even with a new document
created using the default document class and for the Tufte handout and book
classes, which are what I use most of the time). This with LyX 2.0.0 (Friday
21 April 2011) running on Mac OS X.

Regards, Trevor.

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Re: indent in bibliograph in LyX 2.0.0

[Trevor Jenkins]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:

 Trevor Jenkins wrote:
  Interesting, for me Longest Label is greyed out (even with a new document
  created using the default document class and for the Tufte handout and
 book
  classes, which are what I use most of the time). This with LyX 2.0.0
  (Friday 21 April 2011) running on Mac OS X.

 While the cursor is inside a bibliography item line?


I'm not sure what you mean by bibliography item line here. I use \cite
(actually Insert  Citation) with the BibTeX key for the publication I am
referencing and then let View  View pdflatex build the bibliography entries
for me. So in LyX I never see an indent related to bibliographies or the
individual entries. The resultant PDF has a hanging first line to deal with
the citation number (remember I'm predominantly using the Tufte classes and
that's what the LaTeX style is expected to generate).

Regards, Trevor.

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