Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen Escuse me Jürgen. Yes, I read your post, but I read too the Helge post and I understanded that in this mode tilde work. Marcelo What I tested was this: 1. The search and replace using an editor actually results in a file that lyx can read back in. 2. Lyx was ablt to produce a .dvi from the new file. I assumed the ~--- would work, because that was what you wanted. My searchreplace recipe was just a way to do a mass change - I got the impression that you had lots of em-dashes. Now, if lyx adds a problematic line to the preamble, this won't work too well. But you can work around that: 1. Instead of printing/making pdf directly, export-latex in lyx. 2. Remove the offending line from the .tex file 3. Run latex or pdflatex manually to get output. This deavtivation of ~ can be fixed in lyx, but expact that to take some time. In the meantime, this can probably be fixed by defining a converter. You can then have the converter removing the line (using grep perhaps) and then run the usual latex/pdflatex commands. Basically the same workaround as above, but automated. Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Helge Hafting wrote:
This deavtivation of ~ can be fixed in lyx, but expact that to take
some time.
I doubt it will be fixed, because it is a fix itself.
In the meantime, this can probably be fixed by
defining a converter.
An easier solution is to remove the extra line in the file languages, where
it is defined. I.e., place the attached file in your HOME/.lyx directory.
But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line,
i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character.
HTH,
Jürgen
# name babel name GUI nameRTL? encoding code latex options
afrikaans afrikaans Afrikaans false iso8859-1 af_ZA
americanamericanAmerican false iso8859-1 en_US
arabic arabic Arabictrue iso8859-6 ar
austrianaustrianAustrian false iso8859-1 de_AU
bahasa bahasa Bahasafalse iso8859-1 in_ID
belarusian belarusian Belarusianfalse cp1251 be
basque basque Basquefalse iso8859-1 eu_ES
brazil brazil Portuguese (Brazil) false iso8859-1 pt_BR
breton breton Bretonfalse iso8859-1 br_FR
british british British false iso8859-1 en_GB
bulgarian bulgarian Bulgarian false cp1251 bg
canadiancanadianCanadian false iso8859-1 en_CA
canadienfrenchb French Canadian false iso8859-1 fr_CA
catalan catalan Catalan false iso8859-1 ca_ES
croatiancroatianCroatian false iso8859-2 hr
czech czech Czech false iso8859-2 cs_CZ
danish danish Danishfalse iso8859-1 da_DK
dutch dutch Dutch false iso8859-1 nl
english english English false iso8859-1 en
esperanto esperanto Esperanto false iso8859-3 eo
#and what country code should esperanto have?? (Garst)
estonianestonianEstonian false iso8859-1 et_EE
finnish finnish Finnish false iso8859-1 fi
frenchb frenchb Frenchfalse iso8859-1 fr
french french French (GUTenberg) false iso8859-1 fr
galiciangalicianGalician false iso8859-1 gl_ES
# There are two Galicia's one in Spain one in E.Europe. Because of
# the font encoding I am assuming this is the one in Spain. (Garst)
german german Germanfalse iso8859-15 de
ngerman ngerman German (new spelling) false iso8859-15 de
greek greek Greek false iso8859-7 el_GR
hebrew hebrew Hebrewtrue cp1255 he_IL
#hungarian hungarian Hungarian false iso8859-2
icelandic icelandic Icelandic false iso8859-1 is_IS
irish irish Irish false iso8859-1 ga_IE
italian italian Italian false iso8859-1 it
kazakh kazakh Kazakhfalse pt154 kk
latvian latvian Latvian false iso8859-13 lv_LV
lithuanian lithuanian Lithuanianfalse iso8859-13 lt_LT
lsorbianlsorbianLsorbian false iso8859-2
# no ISO listing for lsorbian (Garst)
magyar magyar Magyarfalse iso8859-2 hu
norsk norsk Norsk false iso8859-1 no_NO
nynorsk nynorsk Nynorsk false iso8859-1 nn_NO
polish polish Polishfalse iso8859-2 pl
portugesportugesPortugese false iso8859-1 pt
romanianromanianRomanian false iso8859-2 ro
russian russian Russian false koi8 ru
scottishscottishScottish false iso8859-1 gd_GB
serbian croatian Serbian false iso8859-5 sr
serbocroatian croatian Serbo-Croatian false iso8859-2 sh
spanish spanish Spanish false iso8859-1 es
slovak slovak Slovakfalse iso8859-2 sk_SK
slovene slovene Slovene false iso8859-2 sl_SI
swedish swedish Swedish false iso8859-1 sv_SE
thaithaiThai false tis620-0 th_TH
\usepackage{thswitch}
turkish turkish Turkish false iso8859-9 tr
ukrainian ukrainian Ukrainian false koi8-u uk
usorbianusorbianUsorbian false iso8859-2
# no ISO listing for usorbian (Garst)
welsh welsh Welsh false iso8859-1 cy_GB
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line, i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character. protected space will be broken in general, to be precise. I.e., foo_na (where _ is a protected space) will result in fooña. So be careful. Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line, i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character. Juergen protected space will be broken in general, to be precise. Juergen I.e., foo_na (where _ is a protected space) will result in Juergen fooña. I see now that spanish.ldf provides a \deactivatetilden macro that deactivates only ~n and ~N. Anyway, instead of making people rely on these shortcuts, we should probably have support for a special character that disables line breaks (is that \nobreak?) JMarc
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen Escuse me Jürgen. Yes, I read your post, but I read too the Helge post and I understanded that in this mode tilde work. Marcelo What I tested was this: 1. The search and replace using an editor actually results in a file that lyx can read back in. 2. Lyx was ablt to produce a .dvi from the new file. I assumed the ~--- would work, because that was what you wanted. My searchreplace recipe was just a way to do a mass change - I got the impression that you had lots of em-dashes. Now, if lyx adds a problematic line to the preamble, this won't work too well. But you can work around that: 1. Instead of printing/making pdf directly, export-latex in lyx. 2. Remove the offending line from the .tex file 3. Run latex or pdflatex manually to get output. This deavtivation of ~ can be fixed in lyx, but expact that to take some time. In the meantime, this can probably be fixed by defining a converter. You can then have the converter removing the line (using grep perhaps) and then run the usual latex/pdflatex commands. Basically the same workaround as above, but automated. Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Helge Hafting wrote:
This deavtivation of ~ can be fixed in lyx, but expact that to take
some time.
I doubt it will be fixed, because it is a fix itself.
In the meantime, this can probably be fixed by
defining a converter.
An easier solution is to remove the extra line in the file languages, where
it is defined. I.e., place the attached file in your HOME/.lyx directory.
But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line,
i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character.
HTH,
Jürgen
# name babel name GUI nameRTL? encoding code latex options
afrikaans afrikaans Afrikaans false iso8859-1 af_ZA
americanamericanAmerican false iso8859-1 en_US
arabic arabic Arabictrue iso8859-6 ar
austrianaustrianAustrian false iso8859-1 de_AU
bahasa bahasa Bahasafalse iso8859-1 in_ID
belarusian belarusian Belarusianfalse cp1251 be
basque basque Basquefalse iso8859-1 eu_ES
brazil brazil Portuguese (Brazil) false iso8859-1 pt_BR
breton breton Bretonfalse iso8859-1 br_FR
british british British false iso8859-1 en_GB
bulgarian bulgarian Bulgarian false cp1251 bg
canadiancanadianCanadian false iso8859-1 en_CA
canadienfrenchb French Canadian false iso8859-1 fr_CA
catalan catalan Catalan false iso8859-1 ca_ES
croatiancroatianCroatian false iso8859-2 hr
czech czech Czech false iso8859-2 cs_CZ
danish danish Danishfalse iso8859-1 da_DK
dutch dutch Dutch false iso8859-1 nl
english english English false iso8859-1 en
esperanto esperanto Esperanto false iso8859-3 eo
#and what country code should esperanto have?? (Garst)
estonianestonianEstonian false iso8859-1 et_EE
finnish finnish Finnish false iso8859-1 fi
frenchb frenchb Frenchfalse iso8859-1 fr
french french French (GUTenberg) false iso8859-1 fr
galiciangalicianGalician false iso8859-1 gl_ES
# There are two Galicia's one in Spain one in E.Europe. Because of
# the font encoding I am assuming this is the one in Spain. (Garst)
german german Germanfalse iso8859-15 de
ngerman ngerman German (new spelling) false iso8859-15 de
greek greek Greek false iso8859-7 el_GR
hebrew hebrew Hebrewtrue cp1255 he_IL
#hungarian hungarian Hungarian false iso8859-2
icelandic icelandic Icelandic false iso8859-1 is_IS
irish irish Irish false iso8859-1 ga_IE
italian italian Italian false iso8859-1 it
kazakh kazakh Kazakhfalse pt154 kk
latvian latvian Latvian false iso8859-13 lv_LV
lithuanian lithuanian Lithuanianfalse iso8859-13 lt_LT
lsorbianlsorbianLsorbian false iso8859-2
# no ISO listing for lsorbian (Garst)
magyar magyar Magyarfalse iso8859-2 hu
norsk norsk Norsk false iso8859-1 no_NO
nynorsk nynorsk Nynorsk false iso8859-1 nn_NO
polish polish Polishfalse iso8859-2 pl
portugesportugesPortugese false iso8859-1 pt
romanianromanianRomanian false iso8859-2 ro
russian russian Russian false koi8 ru
scottishscottishScottish false iso8859-1 gd_GB
serbian croatian Serbian false iso8859-5 sr
serbocroatian croatian Serbo-Croatian false iso8859-2 sh
spanish spanish Spanish false iso8859-1 es
slovak slovak Slovakfalse iso8859-2 sk_SK
slovene slovene Slovene false iso8859-2 sl_SI
swedish swedish Swedish false iso8859-1 sv_SE
thaithaiThai false tis620-0 th_TH
\usepackage{thswitch}
turkish turkish Turkish false iso8859-9 tr
ukrainian ukrainian Ukrainian false koi8-u uk
usorbianusorbianUsorbian false iso8859-2
# no ISO listing for usorbian (Garst)
welsh welsh Welsh false iso8859-1 cy_GB
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line, i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character. protected space will be broken in general, to be precise. I.e., foo_na (where _ is a protected space) will result in fooña. So be careful. Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line, i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character. Juergen protected space will be broken in general, to be precise. Juergen I.e., foo_na (where _ is a protected space) will result in Juergen fooña. I see now that spanish.ldf provides a \deactivatetilden macro that deactivates only ~n and ~N. Anyway, instead of making people rely on these shortcuts, we should probably have support for a special character that disables line breaks (is that \nobreak?) JMarc
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen Escuse me Jürgen. Yes, I read your post, but I read too the Helge post and I understanded that in this mode tilde work. Marcelo What I tested was this: 1. The search and replace using an editor actually results in a file that lyx can read back in. 2. Lyx was ablt to produce a .dvi from the new file. I assumed the ~--- would work, because that was what you wanted. My search recipe was just a way to do a mass change - I got the impression that you had lots of em-dashes. Now, if lyx adds a problematic line to the preamble, this won't work too well. But you can work around that: 1. Instead of printing/making pdf directly, export->latex in lyx. 2. Remove the offending line from the .tex file 3. Run latex or pdflatex manually to get output. This deavtivation of "~" can be fixed in lyx, but expact that to take some time. In the meantime, this can probably be fixed by defining a converter. You can then have the converter removing the line (using grep perhaps) and then run the usual latex/pdflatex commands. Basically the same workaround as above, but automated. Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Helge Hafting wrote:
> This deavtivation of "~" can be fixed in lyx, but expact that to take
> some time.
I doubt it will be fixed, because it is a fix itself.
> In the meantime, this can probably be fixed by
> defining a converter.
An easier solution is to remove the extra line in the file "languages", where
it is defined. I.e., place the attached file in your /.lyx directory.
But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line,
i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character.
HTH,
Jürgen
# name babel name GUI nameRTL? encoding code latex options
afrikaans afrikaans "Afrikaans" false iso8859-1 af_ZA ""
americanamerican"American" false iso8859-1 en_US ""
arabic arabic "Arabic"true iso8859-6 ar ""
austrianaustrian"Austrian" false iso8859-1 de_AU ""
bahasa bahasa "Bahasa"false iso8859-1 in_ID ""
belarusian belarusian "Belarusian"false cp1251 be ""
basque basque "Basque"false iso8859-1 eu_ES ""
brazil brazil "Portuguese (Brazil)" false iso8859-1 pt_BR ""
breton breton "Breton"false iso8859-1 br_FR ""
british british "British" false iso8859-1 en_GB ""
bulgarian bulgarian "Bulgarian" false cp1251 bg ""
canadiancanadian"Canadian" false iso8859-1 en_CA ""
canadienfrenchb "French Canadian" false iso8859-1 fr_CA ""
catalan catalan "Catalan" false iso8859-1 ca_ES ""
croatiancroatian"Croatian" false iso8859-2 hr ""
czech czech "Czech" false iso8859-2 cs_CZ ""
danish danish "Danish"false iso8859-1 da_DK ""
dutch dutch "Dutch" false iso8859-1 nl ""
english english "English" false iso8859-1 en ""
esperanto esperanto "Esperanto" false iso8859-3 eo ""
#and what country code should esperanto have?? (Garst)
estonianestonian"Estonian" false iso8859-1 et_EE ""
finnish finnish "Finnish" false iso8859-1 fi ""
frenchb frenchb "French"false iso8859-1 fr ""
french french "French (GUTenberg)" false iso8859-1 fr ""
galiciangalician"Galician" false iso8859-1 gl_ES ""
# There are two Galicia's one in Spain one in E.Europe. Because of
# the font encoding I am assuming this is the one in Spain. (Garst)
german german "German"false iso8859-15 de""
ngerman ngerman "German (new spelling)" false iso8859-15 de""
greek greek "Greek" false iso8859-7 el_GR ""
hebrew hebrew "Hebrew"true cp1255 he_IL ""
#hungarian hungarian "Hungarian" false iso8859-2 "" ""
icelandic icelandic "Icelandic" false iso8859-1 is_IS ""
irish irish "Irish" false iso8859-1 ga_IE ""
italian italian "Italian" false iso8859-1 it ""
kazakh kazakh "Kazakh"false pt154 kk ""
latvian latvian "Latvian" false iso8859-13 lv_LV ""
lithuanian lithuanian "Lithuanian"false iso8859-13 lt_LT ""
lsorbianlsorbian"Lsorbian" false iso8859-2 "" ""
# no ISO listing for lsorbian (Garst)
magyar magyar "Magyar"false iso8859-2 hu ""
norsk norsk "Norsk" false iso8859-1 no_NO ""
nynorsk nynorsk "Nynorsk" false iso8859-1 nn_NO ""
polish polish "Polish"false iso8859-2 pl ""
portugesportuges"Portugese" false iso8859-1 pt ""
romanianromanian"Romanian" false iso8859-2 ro ""
russian russian "Russian" false koi8 ru ""
scottishscottish"Scottish" false iso8859-1 gd_GB ""
serbian croatian "Serbian" false iso8859-5 sr ""
serbocroatian croatian "Serbo-Croatian" false iso8859-2 sh ""
spanish spanish "Spanish" false iso8859-1 es ""
slovak slovak "Slovak"false iso8859-2 sk_SK ""
slovene slovene "Slovene" false iso8859-2 sl_SI ""
swedish swedish "Swedish" false iso8859-1 sv_SE ""
thaithai"Thai" false tis620-0 th_TH
"\usepackage{thswitch}"
turkish turkish "Turkish" false iso8859-9 tr ""
ukrainian ukrainian "Ukrainian" false koi8-u uk ""
usorbianusorbian"Usorbian" false iso8859-2 "" ""
# no ISO listing for usorbian (Garst)
welsh welsh "Welsh" false iso8859-1 cy_GB ""
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by this line, > i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active character. protected space will be broken in general, to be precise. I.e., foo_na (where _ is a protected space) will result in fooña. So be careful. Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: >> But note that this will trigger the bug which has been fixed by >> this line, i.e. ~ in ERT is not a protected space, but an active >> character. Juergen> protected space will be broken in general, to be precise. Juergen> I.e., foo_na (where _ is a protected space) will result in Juergen> fooña. I see now that spanish.ldf provides a \deactivatetilden macro that deactivates only ~n and ~N. Anyway, instead of making people rely on these shortcuts, we should probably have support for a special character that disables line breaks (is that \nobreak?) JMarc
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the Juergen line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble Juergen if Spanish is selected as document language. Juergen According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix Juergen a bug with ñ. This was because otherwise ~n in LyX-Code would give ñ. In general, I think we should avoid to use these shortcuts in LyX, since most of them are designed as convenient shortcuts for things that can be done in another way. We could also define for each language the list of shortcuts defined by babel and be careful about the code we output when we know these shortcuts could interfere. JMarc
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen Escuse me Jürgen. Yes, I read your post, but I read too the Helge post and I understanded that in this mode tilde work. Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the Juergen line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble Juergen if Spanish is selected as document language. Juergen According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix Juergen a bug with ñ. This was because otherwise ~n in LyX-Code would give ñ. In general, I think we should avoid to use these shortcuts in LyX, since most of them are designed as convenient shortcuts for things that can be done in another way. We could also define for each language the list of shortcuts defined by babel and be careful about the code we output when we know these shortcuts could interfere. JMarc
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen Escuse me Jürgen. Yes, I read your post, but I read too the Helge post and I understanded that in this mode tilde work. Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote: > I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT > no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others > variants and I can´t get that one work. > What I make bad? Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language. According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix a bug with ñ. Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX because the Juergen> line [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the preamble Juergen> if Spanish is selected as document language. Juergen> According to the cvs log, this has been done in order to fix Juergen> a bug with ñ. This was because otherwise ~n in LyX-Code would give ñ. In general, I think we should avoid to use these shortcuts in LyX, since most of them are designed as convenient shortcuts for things that can be done in another way. We could also define for each language the list of shortcuts defined by babel and be careful about the code we output when we know these shortcuts could interfere. JMarc
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
> > I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT > > no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others > > variants and I can´t get that one work. > > What I make bad? > > Didn't you read my post? It won't work in LyX > because the line > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document > language. > > According to the cvs log, this has been done in > order to fix a bug with ñ. > > Jürgen > Escuse me Jürgen. Yes, I read your post, but I read too the Helge post and I understanded that in this mode tilde work. Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and
I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes
wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT
containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view-dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up babel right should be as
simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to
use for this?
Many will do this, I just tested it with vim.
(If you haven't used vi-like editors such as vim,
be aware that they have two modes, and start up
in a modus where you can't actually type in text.
This is not really a problem, but confuses newbies.)
vim does searchreplace when you type the command
:%s/text to search for/replacement text/g
In your case, you need linebreaks in the replacement
text. A linebreak is written as \r
i.e.
:%s/searchstring/two\rlines/g
will replace
searchstring
with
two
lines
The backslash is special, it is used to encode
things like linebreaks and other specials. In order to
use an actual backslash (for \begin) you type two
backslashes.
So make a backup copy of your lyx file, then do a
vim myfile.lyx
on the command line, to open the file.
Then type
:%s/---/\\begin_inset ERT\rstatus collapsed\r\r\\begin_layout
Standard\r\~---\r\\end_layout\r\r\\end_inset\r\r/g
Now that is an incredibly long line,
but don't worry about that. Just type it,
and press enter. (If your mailer broke the line,
take care to reconstruct it properly without missing
a possible space characters at the break.)
vim will hopefulle tell you that it did a lot of
replacements. Then save (write) and quit vim with the
command
:wq
Then try opening your file in lyx again, and try view-dvi.
This works for me (lyx 1.4.0). I get fewer breaks between
text and emdash, but those bad breaks aren't completely
eliminated. But then, I tried with 4 columns to get lots of
breaks. It was probably too narrow sometimes.
If it don't work - check that you entered the replace command
correctly. If this fails with some earlier version of lyx, just
make a test document containing ~--- in ERT and see how
your LyX stores that in the .lyx file.
Then modify the replacement command and try again.
Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave the rest of the text normal. I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and
I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes
wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT
containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view-dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up babel right should be as
simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to
use for this?
Many will do this, I just tested it with vim.
(If you haven't used vi-like editors such as vim,
be aware that they have two modes, and start up
in a modus where you can't actually type in text.
This is not really a problem, but confuses newbies.)
vim does searchreplace when you type the command
:%s/text to search for/replacement text/g
In your case, you need linebreaks in the replacement
text. A linebreak is written as \r
i.e.
:%s/searchstring/two\rlines/g
will replace
searchstring
with
two
lines
The backslash is special, it is used to encode
things like linebreaks and other specials. In order to
use an actual backslash (for \begin) you type two
backslashes.
So make a backup copy of your lyx file, then do a
vim myfile.lyx
on the command line, to open the file.
Then type
:%s/---/\\begin_inset ERT\rstatus collapsed\r\r\\begin_layout
Standard\r\~---\r\\end_layout\r\r\\end_inset\r\r/g
Now that is an incredibly long line,
but don't worry about that. Just type it,
and press enter. (If your mailer broke the line,
take care to reconstruct it properly without missing
a possible space characters at the break.)
vim will hopefulle tell you that it did a lot of
replacements. Then save (write) and quit vim with the
command
:wq
Then try opening your file in lyx again, and try view-dvi.
This works for me (lyx 1.4.0). I get fewer breaks between
text and emdash, but those bad breaks aren't completely
eliminated. But then, I tried with 4 columns to get lots of
breaks. It was probably too narrow sometimes.
If it don't work - check that you entered the replace command
correctly. If this fails with some earlier version of lyx, just
make a test document containing ~--- in ERT and see how
your LyX stores that in the .lyx file.
Then modify the replacement command and try again.
Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave the rest of the text normal. I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and
I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes
wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT
containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view->dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up "babel" right should be as
simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to
use for this?
Many will do this, I just tested it with vim.
(If you haven't used vi-like editors such as vim,
be aware that they have two modes, and start up
in a modus where you can't actually type in text.
This is not really a problem, but confuses newbies.)
vim does search when you type the command
:%s/text to search for/replacement text/g
In your case, you need linebreaks in the replacement
text. A linebreak is written as \r
i.e.
:%s/searchstring/two\rlines/g
will replace
searchstring
with
two
lines
The backslash is special, it is used to encode
things like linebreaks and other specials. In order to
use an actual backslash (for \begin) you type two
backslashes.
So make a backup copy of your lyx file, then do a
vim myfile.lyx
on the command line, to open the file.
Then type
:%s/---/\\begin_inset ERT\rstatus collapsed\r\r\\begin_layout
Standard\r\~---\r\\end_layout\r\r\\end_inset\r\r/g
Now that is an incredibly long line,
but don't worry about that. Just type it,
and press enter. (If your mailer broke the line,
take care to reconstruct it properly without missing
a possible space characters at the break.)
vim will hopefulle tell you that it did a lot of
replacements. Then save (write) and quit vim with the
command
:wq
Then try opening your file in lyx again, and try view->dvi.
This works for me (lyx 1.4.0). I get fewer breaks between
text and emdash, but those bad breaks aren't completely
eliminated. But then, I tried with 4 columns to get lots of
breaks. It was probably too narrow sometimes.
If it don't work - check that you entered the replace command
correctly. If this fails with some earlier version of lyx, just
make a test document containing ~--- in ERT and see how
your LyX stores that in the .lyx file.
Then modify the replacement command and try again.
Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
> >>You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes > >>as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave > >>the rest of the text normal. > >> I inteded this with a little file and ~ in an ERT no work. I put ~, or \~, ~---, and several others variants and I can´t get that one work. What I make bad? Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Instead, you will have to define your own emdash
character that does not allow
a linebreak. Something like
\newcommand\myem{\textormath{\leavevmode\hbox{---}}{---}}
Then you could do
\newcommand\mycomment[1]{\myem#1\myem}
and wrap all you comments in \mycomment{this is a
comment}
If you do not need, say, underline, in your
document, you could furthermore
redefine underline as
\renewcommand\underbar{\mycomment}
and just underline all you comments in LyX.
Or do it with colors as described here:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm#BuiltinCharacterStyles
However, if this is really such a common task in
Spanish documents, posting a
question to the Spanish TeX newsgroup
(es.comp.lenguajes.tex) might help
further.
HTH,
Jürgen
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view-dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up babel right should be as simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
The problem is that LyX inserts the line
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language.
This deactivates the tilde as active character and thus makes shorthands
like ~--- unusable.
This is certainly done intentionally, but I don't know why exactly (maybe it
breaks protected space or the ~ accent). Maybe someone else can comment.
Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and
I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes
wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT
containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view-dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up babel right should be as
simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to
use for this?
Thanks
Marcelo
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Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
- Original Message - From: Marcelo Acuña [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to use for this? Thanks Marcelo Emacs and Vi are a bit hard to learn. Nedit 5.5 is smaller and simpler with advanced search and replace. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11005package_id=109051release_id=274756
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña writes: [ Helga writes:] 0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes wrong. 1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT containing ~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4 2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell it to replace every occurence of --- with: \begin_inset ERT status collapsed \begin_layout Standard ~--- \end_layout \end_inset I.e. aaa---bbb should become aaa \begin_inset ERT status collapsed \begin_layout Standard ~--- \end_layout \end_inset bbb Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to use for this? Here is the regex that should work with vim (not tested). You would open a copy of the file, type : and then enter this (one line): %s/---/\r\\begin_inset ERT\rstatus Collapsed\r\r\\begin_layout Standard\r~---\r\\end_layout\r\r\\end_inset\r\r/g Then : and sq to save and quit. (BTW, this cut-and-paste solution had been suggested already for this specific problem -- about two weeks ago.) :-) -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiros-Translations
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Helge Hafting writes: [...] I seem to remember you had lots of these? You can fix them all this way: Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but a text editor capable of replacing several lines can do it by working on the .lyx file. It would be so loverly if in LyX one could select an ERT object, paste it into the replace with field of LyX's own search-and-replace function and do this from within LyX. I'm guessing that the only reason this hasn't been built in, yet, is that it must not be so easy to do. -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiros-Translations
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Instead, you will have to define your own emdash
character that does not allow
a linebreak. Something like
\newcommand\myem{\textormath{\leavevmode\hbox{---}}{---}}
Then you could do
\newcommand\mycomment[1]{\myem#1\myem}
and wrap all you comments in \mycomment{this is a
comment}
If you do not need, say, underline, in your
document, you could furthermore
redefine underline as
\renewcommand\underbar{\mycomment}
and just underline all you comments in LyX.
Or do it with colors as described here:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm#BuiltinCharacterStyles
However, if this is really such a common task in
Spanish documents, posting a
question to the Spanish TeX newsgroup
(es.comp.lenguajes.tex) might help
further.
HTH,
Jürgen
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view-dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up babel right should be as simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
The problem is that LyX inserts the line
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language.
This deactivates the tilde as active character and thus makes shorthands
like ~--- unusable.
This is certainly done intentionally, but I don't know why exactly (maybe it
breaks protected space or the ~ accent). Maybe someone else can comment.
Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and
I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes
wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT
containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view-dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up babel right should be as
simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to
use for this?
Thanks
Marcelo
___
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Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
- Original Message - From: Marcelo Acuña [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to use for this? Thanks Marcelo Emacs and Vi are a bit hard to learn. Nedit 5.5 is smaller and simpler with advanced search and replace. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11005package_id=109051release_id=274756
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña writes: [ Helga writes:] 0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes wrong. 1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT containing ~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4 2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell it to replace every occurence of --- with: \begin_inset ERT status collapsed \begin_layout Standard ~--- \end_layout \end_inset I.e. aaa---bbb should become aaa \begin_inset ERT status collapsed \begin_layout Standard ~--- \end_layout \end_inset bbb Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to use for this? Here is the regex that should work with vim (not tested). You would open a copy of the file, type : and then enter this (one line): %s/---/\r\\begin_inset ERT\rstatus Collapsed\r\r\\begin_layout Standard\r~---\r\\end_layout\r\r\\end_inset\r\r/g Then : and sq to save and quit. (BTW, this cut-and-paste solution had been suggested already for this specific problem -- about two weeks ago.) :-) -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiros-Translations
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Helge Hafting writes: [...] I seem to remember you had lots of these? You can fix them all this way: Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but a text editor capable of replacing several lines can do it by working on the .lyx file. It would be so loverly if in LyX one could select an ERT object, paste it into the replace with field of LyX's own search-and-replace function and do this from within LyX. I'm guessing that the only reason this hasn't been built in, yet, is that it must not be so easy to do. -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tiros-Translations
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Instead, you will have to define your own emdash
character that does not allow
a linebreak. Something like
\newcommand\myem{\textormath{\leavevmode\hbox{---}}{---}}
Then you could do
\newcommand\mycomment[1]{\myem#1\myem}
and wrap all you comments in \mycomment{this is a
comment}
If you do not need, say, underline, in your
document, you could furthermore
redefine underline as
\renewcommand\underbar{\mycomment}
and just underline all you comments in LyX.
Or do it with colors as described here:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm#BuiltinCharacterStyles
However, if this is really such a common task in
Spanish documents, posting a
question to the Spanish TeX newsgroup
(es.comp.lenguajes.tex) might help
further.
HTH,
Jürgen
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
the rest of the text normal.
I seem to remember you had lots of these?
You can fix them all this way:
Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
do it by working on the .lyx file.
0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes wrong.
1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT containing
~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
it to replace every occurence of --- with:
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
I.e.
aaa---bbb
should become
aaa
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed
\begin_layout Standard
~---
\end_layout
\end_inset
bbb
Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
ok, then view->dvi
To save work when writing:
Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
Finally, setting up "babel" right should be as simple
as setting the document language to spanish.
Helge Hafting
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña wrote:
> Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
> es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
> but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
> Is not global but simple.
> A person in that list say that
> after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
> in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
> prev to em dash ~---like this---
> In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
> any change but, before I re-quest to this
> person I check it with Kile and this work very
> well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
> made correctly.
> How I can get it in Lyx?
The problem is that LyX inserts the line
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to the preamble if Spanish is selected as document language.
This deactivates the tilde as active character and thus makes shorthands
like ~--- unusable.
This is certainly done intentionally, but I don't know why exactly (maybe it
breaks protected space or the ~ accent). Maybe someone else can comment.
Jürgen
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
> >>>No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and
> I
> >>>need a global setting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
> >>changing the font metrics.
> >Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
> >es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
> >but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
> >Is not global but simple.
> >A person in that list say that
> >after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
> >in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
> >prev to em dash ~---like this---
> >In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
> >any change but, before I re-quest to this
> >person I check it with Kile and this work very
> >well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
> >made correctly.
> >How I can get it in Lyx?
> >
> >
> You can get this in lyx by writing your em-dashes
> as ERT. I.e. write the ~--- in ERT, and leave
> the rest of the text normal.
>
> I seem to remember you had lots of these?
> You can fix them all this way:
> Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but
> a text editor capable of replacing several lines can
> do it by working on the .lyx file.
> 0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes
> wrong.
> 1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT
> containing
> ~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4
> 2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell
> it to replace every occurence of --- with:
> \begin_inset ERT
> status collapsed
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> ~---
> \end_layout
>
> \end_inset
>
>
> I.e.
> aaa---bbb
> should become
>
> aaa
> \begin_inset ERT
> status collapsed
>
> \begin_layout Standard
> ~---
> \end_layout
>
> \end_inset
>
> bbb
>
> Then all your em-dashes are hyphenation-free.
> Open the latered file with lyx and verify that it is
> ok, then view->dvi
>
> To save work when writing:
> Create one ~--- ERT, mark it and copy.
> Whenever you need this construct, use paste.
>
> Finally, setting up "babel" right should be as
> simple
> as setting the document language to spanish.
>
> Helge Hafting
>
Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to
use for this?
Thanks
Marcelo
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Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
- Original Message - From: "Marcelo Acuña" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to use for this? Thanks Marcelo Emacs and Vi are a bit hard to learn. Nedit 5.5 is smaller and simpler with advanced search and replace. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=11005_id=109051_id=274756
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña writes: [> Helga writes:] > > 0. Backup the .lyx file, in case the process goes > > wrong. > > 1. Look at the lyx file, check what an ERT > > containing > > ~--- looks like. My example is for lyx 1.4 > > 2. Use a powerful text editor on the .lyx file, tell > > it to replace every occurence of --- with: > > \begin_inset ERT > > status collapsed > > > > \begin_layout Standard > > ~--- > > \end_layout > > > > \end_inset > > > > > > I.e. > > aaa---bbb > > should become > > > > aaa > > \begin_inset ERT > > status collapsed > > > > \begin_layout Standard > > ~--- > > \end_layout > > > > \end_inset > > > > bbb > Helge, what good text editor ---in Linux--- can I to > use for this? Here is the regex that should work with vim (not tested). You would open a copy of the file, type ":" and then enter this (one line): %s/---/\r\\begin_inset ERT\rstatus Collapsed\r\r\\begin_layout Standard\r~---\r\\end_layout\r\r\\end_inset\r\r/g Then ":" and "sq" to save and quit. (BTW, this cut-and-paste solution had been suggested already for this specific problem -- about two weeks ago.) :-) -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tiros-Translations
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Helge Hafting writes: [...] > I seem to remember you had lots of these? > You can fix them all this way: > Lyx can't do this with search and replace, but > a text editor capable of replacing several lines can > do it by working on the .lyx file. It would be so "loverly" if in LyX one could select an ERT object, paste it into the "replace with" field of LyX's own search-and-replace function and do this from within LyX. I'm guessing that the only reason this hasn't been built in, yet, is that it must not be so easy to do. -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tiros-Translations
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Instead, you will have to define your own emdash
character that does not allow
a linebreak. Something like
\newcommand\myem{\textormath{\leavevmode\hbox{---}}{---}}
Then you could do
\newcommand\mycomment[1]{\myem#1\myem}
and wrap all you comments in \mycomment{this is a
comment}
If you do not need, say, underline, in your
document, you could furthermore
redefine underline as
\renewcommand\underbar{\mycomment}
and just underline all you comments in LyX.
Or do it with colors as described here:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm#BuiltinCharacterStyles
However, if this is really such a common task in
Spanish documents, posting a
question to the Spanish TeX newsgroup
(es.comp.lenguajes.tex) might help
further.
HTH,
Jürgen
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
But I think that a global setting must be
exist. (I never see a broken line like this
).
Or like this (
this is a comment).
I think that same behavior of latex with )
and --- must be exist.
How I can get it?
Remember that I not want avoid hyphenation
in entire comments. I only need that hyphenation
not cut em dash from joint word.
Thanks
Marcelo
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Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and I
need a global setting.
I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
changing the font metrics.
Instead, you will have to define your own emdash
character that does not allow
a linebreak. Something like
\newcommand\myem{\textormath{\leavevmode\hbox{---}}{---}}
Then you could do
\newcommand\mycomment[1]{\myem#1\myem}
and wrap all you comments in \mycomment{this is a
comment}
If you do not need, say, underline, in your
document, you could furthermore
redefine underline as
\renewcommand\underbar{\mycomment}
and just underline all you comments in LyX.
Or do it with colors as described here:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm#BuiltinCharacterStyles
However, if this is really such a common task in
Spanish documents, posting a
question to the Spanish TeX newsgroup
(es.comp.lenguajes.tex) might help
further.
HTH,
Jürgen
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
But I think that a global setting must be
exist. (I never see a broken line like this
).
Or like this (
this is a comment).
I think that same behavior of latex with )
and --- must be exist.
How I can get it?
Remember that I not want avoid hyphenation
in entire comments. I only need that hyphenation
not cut em dash from joint word.
Thanks
Marcelo
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Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
> > No, I have about 1000 of this ---comment---, and I
> > need a global setting.
>
> I think it is not possible to redefine --- without
> changing the font metrics.
> Instead, you will have to define your own emdash
> character that does not allow
> a linebreak. Something like
>
>
\newcommand\myem{\textormath{\leavevmode\hbox{---}}{---}}
>
> Then you could do
>
> \newcommand\mycomment[1]{\myem#1\myem}
>
> and wrap all you comments in \mycomment{this is a
> comment}
>
> If you do not need, say, underline, in your
> document, you could furthermore
> redefine underline as
>
> \renewcommand\underbar{\mycomment}
>
> and just underline all you comments in LyX.
>
> Or do it with colors as described here:
>
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm#BuiltinCharacterStyles
>
> However, if this is really such a common task in
> Spanish documents, posting a
> question to the Spanish TeX newsgroup
> (es.comp.lenguajes.tex) might help
> further.
>
> HTH,
> Jürgen
>
Thanks Jürgen, I posted the problem to
es.comp.lenguajes.tex and I get a solution
but this work in Kile and not work in Lyx.
Is not global but simple.
A person in that list say that
after put \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
in preamble I must put a tilde (~)
prev to em dash ~---like this---
In lyx this not work. Tilde is print without
any change but, before I re-quest to this
person I check it with Kile and this work very
well, tilde is not print and hyphenation is
made correctly.
How I can get it in Lyx?
But I think that a global setting must be
exist. (I never see a broken line like this
).
Or like this (
this is a comment).
I think that same behavior of latex with <)>
and <---> must be exist.
How I can get it?
Remember that I not want avoid hyphenation
in entire comments. I only need that hyphenation
not cut em dash from joint word.
Thanks
Marcelo
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--- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Jürgen, Kevin, Bruce, excuse me for my english, I need a global setting for avoid that latex hyphenat a comment --- in this manner---. In spanish we can include comments with em dash sticked to the word, but is not wanted that the hy- phen broke dash and word like above. Is wanted that em dash and a word remains sticked ---like this---, ---or like this o- ther---. And I need global setting because I have several hundred of this comments. Thanks Marcelo __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña writes:
Jürgen, Kevin, Bruce, excuse
me for my english, I need a
global setting for avoid that
latex hyphenat a comment ---
in this manner---. In spanish
we can include comments with
em dash sticked to the word,
but is not wanted that the hy-
phen broke dash and word like
above.
Is wanted that em dash and a
word remains sticked ---like
this---, ---or like this o-
ther---. And I need global
setting because I have several
hundred of this comments.
Did you try any of the three solutions we already offered? In particular
\mbox{here is something long that should not be broken} or the
\nobreakdash (I think) command that you get when using the amsmath
package?
Whether there is a global setting for this, I don't know. If there is
(?), maybe it should be tied to the language setting.
--
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations
--- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Jürgen, Kevin, Bruce, excuse me for my english, I need a global setting for avoid that latex hyphenat a comment --- in this manner---. In spanish we can include comments with em dash sticked to the word, but is not wanted that the hy- phen broke dash and word like above. Is wanted that em dash and a word remains sticked ---like this---, ---or like this o- ther---. And I need global setting because I have several hundred of this comments. Thanks Marcelo __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña writes:
Jürgen, Kevin, Bruce, excuse
me for my english, I need a
global setting for avoid that
latex hyphenat a comment ---
in this manner---. In spanish
we can include comments with
em dash sticked to the word,
but is not wanted that the hy-
phen broke dash and word like
above.
Is wanted that em dash and a
word remains sticked ---like
this---, ---or like this o-
ther---. And I need global
setting because I have several
hundred of this comments.
Did you try any of the three solutions we already offered? In particular
\mbox{here is something long that should not be broken} or the
\nobreakdash (I think) command that you get when using the amsmath
package?
Whether there is a global setting for this, I don't know. If there is
(?), maybe it should be tied to the language setting.
--
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations
--- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Jürgen, Kevin, Bruce, excuse me for my english, I need a global setting for avoid that latex hyphenat a comment --- in this manner---. In spanish we can include comments with em dash sticked to the word, but is not wanted that the hy- phen broke dash and word like above. Is wanted that em dash and a word remains sticked ---like this---, ---or like this o- ther---. And I need global setting because I have several hundred of this comments. Thanks Marcelo __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: --- em dash without hyphenation, global setting
Marcelo Acuña writes:
> Jürgen, Kevin, Bruce, excuse
> me for my english, I need a
> global setting for avoid that
> latex hyphenat a comment ---
> in this manner---. In spanish
> we can include comments with
> em dash sticked to the word,
> but is not wanted that the hy-
> phen broke dash and word like
> above.
> Is wanted that em dash and a
> word remains sticked ---like
> this---, ---or like this o-
> ther---. And I need global
> setting because I have several
> hundred of this comments.
Did you try any of the three solutions we already offered? In particular
\mbox{here is something long that should not be broken} or the
\nobreakdash (I think) command that you get when using the amsmath
package?
Whether there is a global setting for this, I don't know. If there is
(?), maybe it should be tied to the language setting.
--
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations
