Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
On Saturday 23 August 2008 06:40:32 am killermike wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. hi Steeve, just for clarification, for LyX 1.6 Qt 4.2.2 is needed, so i guess you dont need to upgrade anything. pavel
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
On Saturday 23 August 2008 06:40:32 am killermike wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. hi Steeve, just for clarification, for LyX 1.6 Qt 4.2.2 is needed, so i guess you dont need to upgrade anything. pavel
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
> On Saturday 23 August 2008 06:40:32 am killermike wrote: > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color > > > character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on > > > 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in > > > > > > > > > 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) > > > > Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? > > Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version > higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of > effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva > 2007. I've had this problem several times. hi Steeve, just for clarification, for LyX 1.6 Qt 4.2.2 is needed, so i guess you dont need to upgrade anything. pavel
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? I've been using it for a while. I'm finding 1.6 RC1 is crashy but usable on Windows. The testament to how good it is is that I'm willing to work around the occasional crashes rather than go back a version. You'd have to ask the developers what their ETA for the stable release though. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
This doesn't answer the original question, nor directly apply to the response below it. However, I'd just like to state that I've been getting the 1.6 development version via svn every couple of days, and compiling it on linux. It's wonderful thus far: no crashes; nice interface; wonderful new capabilities, such as the split-screen thing and view of the LaTeX source at the same time. I think it'll be a fabulous release, and is, in my opinion, probably deserving of a 2.0 version number. C.O. - Original Message From: killermike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:40:32 AM Subject: Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6? Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? I've been using it for a while. I'm finding 1.6 RC1 is crashy but usable on Windows. The testament to how good it is is that I'm willing to work around the occasional crashes rather than go back a version. You'd have to ask the developers what their ETA for the stable release though. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
On Saturday 23 August 2008 06:40:32 am killermike wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. Therefore, I limit LyX upgrades to versions giving a must have capability. For me, there have been only two must have capabilities -- character styles and outline mode. I'll probably stick with 1.5.6 until upgrading to Mandriva 2009 in mid 2009. Layout modules are pretty darned cool, but I can live without them for another year. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) You might want to write a dirty script that will transform those into legitimate character styles. That may be the source of your problems. Hard to know, though. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
By the way, Mandriva 2008.1 surely ships with a Qt version sufficient for 1.6. I can't remember what we need, but it may be just 4.2. It's 4.3 at most. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. The package list on the web suggests that Mandriva 2008.1 includes Qt 4.3.4, which is very much enough for 1.6, and will likely even be enough for 1.7. We try not to be overly cutting edge with what we require there. Therefore, I limit LyX upgrades to versions giving a must have capability. For me, there have been only two must have capabilities -- character styles and outline mode. The outliner is greatly improved in 1.6. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? I've been using it for a while. I'm finding 1.6 RC1 is crashy but usable on Windows. The testament to how good it is is that I'm willing to work around the occasional crashes rather than go back a version. You'd have to ask the developers what their ETA for the stable release though. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
This doesn't answer the original question, nor directly apply to the response below it. However, I'd just like to state that I've been getting the 1.6 development version via svn every couple of days, and compiling it on linux. It's wonderful thus far: no crashes; nice interface; wonderful new capabilities, such as the split-screen thing and view of the LaTeX source at the same time. I think it'll be a fabulous release, and is, in my opinion, probably deserving of a 2.0 version number. C.O. - Original Message From: killermike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:40:32 AM Subject: Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6? Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? I've been using it for a while. I'm finding 1.6 RC1 is crashy but usable on Windows. The testament to how good it is is that I'm willing to work around the occasional crashes rather than go back a version. You'd have to ask the developers what their ETA for the stable release though. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
On Saturday 23 August 2008 06:40:32 am killermike wrote: Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. Therefore, I limit LyX upgrades to versions giving a must have capability. For me, there have been only two must have capabilities -- character styles and outline mode. I'll probably stick with 1.5.6 until upgrading to Mandriva 2009 in mid 2009. Layout modules are pretty darned cool, but I can live without them for another year. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) You might want to write a dirty script that will transform those into legitimate character styles. That may be the source of your problems. Hard to know, though. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
By the way, Mandriva 2008.1 surely ships with a Qt version sufficient for 1.6. I can't remember what we need, but it may be just 4.2. It's 4.3 at most. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. The package list on the web suggests that Mandriva 2008.1 includes Qt 4.3.4, which is very much enough for 1.6, and will likely even be enough for 1.7. We try not to be overly cutting edge with what we require there. Therefore, I limit LyX upgrades to versions giving a must have capability. For me, there have been only two must have capabilities -- character styles and outline mode. The outliner is greatly improved in 1.6. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? I've been using it for a while. I'm finding 1.6 RC1 is crashy but usable on Windows. The testament to how good it is is that I'm willing to work around the occasional crashes rather than go back a version. You'd have to ask the developers what their ETA for the stable release though. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
This doesn't answer the original question, nor directly apply to the response below it. However, I'd just like to state that I've been getting the 1.6 development version via svn every couple of days, and compiling it on linux. It's wonderful thus far: no crashes; nice interface; wonderful new capabilities, such as the split-screen thing and view of the LaTeX source at the same time. I think it'll be a fabulous release, and is, in my opinion, probably deserving of a 2.0 version number. C.O. - Original Message From: killermike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:40:32 AM Subject: Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6? Steve Litt wrote: > I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color > character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on > 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in > > > 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? I've been using it for a while. I'm finding 1.6 RC1 is crashy but usable on Windows. The testament to how good it is is that I'm willing to work around the occasional crashes rather than go back a version. You'd have to ask the developers what their ETA for the stable release though. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk Michael Reed -- technology, gender, and geek culture freelance writer
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
On Saturday 23 August 2008 06:40:32 am killermike wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color > > character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on > > 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in > > > > > > 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) > > Would it be worth waiting for 1.6? Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. Therefore, I limit LyX upgrades to versions giving a "must have" capability. For me, there have been only two "must have" capabilities -- character styles and outline mode. I'll probably stick with 1.5.6 until upgrading to Mandriva 2009 in mid 2009. Layout modules are pretty darned cool, but I can live without them for another year. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) You might want to write a dirty script that will transform those into legitimate character styles. That may be the source of your problems. Hard to know, though. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
By the way, Mandriva 2008.1 surely ships with a Qt version sufficient for 1.6. I can't remember what we need, but it may be just 4.2. It's 4.3 at most. rh
Re: Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Steve Litt wrote: Definitely not. There's a high probability that 1.6 will require a Qt version higher than what my distribution gives me, requiring a HUGE expenditure of effort and troubleshooting. I had this problem moving up to 1.5.3 on Mandriva 2007. I've had this problem several times. The package list on the web suggests that Mandriva 2008.1 includes Qt 4.3.4, which is very much enough for 1.6, and will likely even be enough for 1.7. We try not to be overly cutting edge with what we require there. Therefore, I limit LyX upgrades to versions giving a "must have" capability. For me, there have been only two "must have" capabilities -- character styles and outline mode. The outliner is greatly improved in 1.6. rh
Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Hi all, As a result of a hardware upgrade and a switch from Mandriva 2007 to Mandriva 2008.1, I'm upgrading to LyX 1.5.6 and abandoning the 1.4.2 that came with my old Mandriva 2007. On the old computer, I kept 1.4.2 in parallel with 1.5.3. My newer books were compiled in 1.5.3, and all appeared to compile reasonably well in 1.5.6. All the ones compiled in 1.4.2 have at least some problems, though in the case of one book it was simply the way URLs were styled -- easy to fix. I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US
Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Hi all, As a result of a hardware upgrade and a switch from Mandriva 2007 to Mandriva 2008.1, I'm upgrading to LyX 1.5.6 and abandoning the 1.4.2 that came with my old Mandriva 2007. On the old computer, I kept 1.4.2 in parallel with 1.5.3. My newer books were compiled in 1.5.3, and all appeared to compile reasonably well in 1.5.6. All the ones compiled in 1.4.2 have at least some problems, though in the case of one book it was simply the way URLs were styled -- easy to fix. I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US
Any words of wisdom switching from 1.4.2 to 1.5.6?
Hi all, As a result of a hardware upgrade and a switch from Mandriva 2007 to Mandriva 2008.1, I'm upgrading to LyX 1.5.6 and abandoning the 1.4.2 that came with my old Mandriva 2007. On the old computer, I kept 1.4.2 in parallel with 1.5.3. My newer books were compiled in 1.5.3, and all appeared to compile reasonably well in 1.5.6. All the ones compiled in 1.4.2 have at least some problems, though in the case of one book it was simply the way URLs were styled -- easy to fix. I have one book written in stone age LyX in 2001, using Dekl Tsur's color character style workaround. It's been upgraded to 1.4.2, and compiles on 1.4.2, but it doesn't compile on 1.5.x, and I dread getting it running in 1.5.6. But it has to be done :-) SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US
