Re: Best way to re-order book
On 2009-02-16, L Duperval wrote: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:17:26 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. When I originally started the book, I was planning on having 100+ chapters, each expanding on one idea. Some chapters would be multiple pages, other may have been half a page only. But then, after I had all the headings created, I looked at it and I realized that it would be better to group them into 4 big parts, and about six chapters in each part, ans some subsections in each chapter. Now, I'm trying to take the 100+ original headings (ideas) and group them more logically. So yes, using the outline, I have to move some things around 30, 40, 50+ lines. How about placing the 100+ sections into chapters first (with some auxiliary chapters that are removed in the final version) to get them grouped? The you can move your 10+ chapters and finally merge some of them (by removing the auxiliary chapter heading). Günter
Re: Best way to re-order book
L Duperval wrote: Hi, I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cutpaste or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. My first thought was to export from LyX to Freemind, but I haven't found a good way to do that (in particular, I haven't found a way for Freemind to import from OpenOffice, LyX or anything else while still keeping the structure correct). Does anyone have any other suggestion for me? I'm on Linux. Cutpaste consistent and clearly unbreakable parts into new child documents. Then you can move the includes at will... Abdel.
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:27 +, Guenter Milde wrote: How about placing the 100+ sections into chapters first (with some auxiliary chapters that are removed in the final version) to get them grouped? The you can move your 10+ chapters and finally merge some of them (by removing the auxiliary chapter heading). Günter That's what I ended up doing. It's taking a while but, eh! I should have thought of it before starting. :) L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On 2009-02-16, L Duperval wrote: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:17:26 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. When I originally started the book, I was planning on having 100+ chapters, each expanding on one idea. Some chapters would be multiple pages, other may have been half a page only. But then, after I had all the headings created, I looked at it and I realized that it would be better to group them into 4 big parts, and about six chapters in each part, ans some subsections in each chapter. Now, I'm trying to take the 100+ original headings (ideas) and group them more logically. So yes, using the outline, I have to move some things around 30, 40, 50+ lines. How about placing the 100+ sections into chapters first (with some auxiliary chapters that are removed in the final version) to get them grouped? The you can move your 10+ chapters and finally merge some of them (by removing the auxiliary chapter heading). Günter
Re: Best way to re-order book
L Duperval wrote: Hi, I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cutpaste or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. My first thought was to export from LyX to Freemind, but I haven't found a good way to do that (in particular, I haven't found a way for Freemind to import from OpenOffice, LyX or anything else while still keeping the structure correct). Does anyone have any other suggestion for me? I'm on Linux. Cutpaste consistent and clearly unbreakable parts into new child documents. Then you can move the includes at will... Abdel.
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:27 +, Guenter Milde wrote: How about placing the 100+ sections into chapters first (with some auxiliary chapters that are removed in the final version) to get them grouped? The you can move your 10+ chapters and finally merge some of them (by removing the auxiliary chapter heading). Günter That's what I ended up doing. It's taking a while but, eh! I should have thought of it before starting. :) L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On 2009-02-16, L Duperval wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:17:26 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have >> 50 sections within one chapter. > When I originally started the book, I was planning on having 100+ > chapters, each expanding on one idea. Some chapters would be multiple > pages, other may have been half a page only. But then, after I had all > the headings created, I looked at it and I realized that it would be > better to group them into 4 big parts, and about six chapters in each > part, ans some subsections in each chapter. > Now, I'm trying to take the 100+ original headings (ideas) and group them > more logically. So yes, using the outline, I have to move some things > around 30, 40, 50+ lines. How about placing the 100+ sections into chapters first (with some "auxiliary chapters" that are removed in the final version) to get them grouped? The you can move your 10+ chapters and finally merge some of them (by removing the "auxiliary" chapter heading). Günter
Re: Best way to re-order book
L Duperval wrote: Hi, I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cut or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. My first thought was to export from LyX to Freemind, but I haven't found a good way to do that (in particular, I haven't found a way for Freemind to import from OpenOffice, LyX or anything else while still keeping the structure correct). Does anyone have any other suggestion for me? I'm on Linux. Cut consistent and clearly unbreakable parts into new child documents. Then you can move the includes at will... Abdel.
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:27 +, Guenter Milde wrote: > How about placing the 100+ sections into chapters first (with some > "auxiliary chapters" that are removed in the final version) to get them > grouped? The you can move your 10+ chapters and finally merge some of > them (by removing the "auxiliary" chapter heading). > > Günter That's what I ended up doing. It's taking a while but, eh! I should have thought of it before starting. :) L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Best way to re-order book
Hi, I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cutpaste or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. My first thought was to export from LyX to Freemind, but I haven't found a good way to do that (in particular, I haven't found a way for Freemind to import from OpenOffice, LyX or anything else while still keeping the structure correct). Does anyone have any other suggestion for me? I'm on Linux. Thanks, L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, L Duperval wrote: I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cutpaste or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:52:34 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) No. I have 100+ points that I want to reorder and single clicking one by one is too long. I prefer the DnD approach because it is much faster. I'll file an enhancement request. L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, L Duperval wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:52:34 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) No. I have 100+ points that I want to reorder and single clicking one by one is too long. I prefer the DnD approach because it is much faster. Is the reason single clicking is to slow because you have to move the point a long distance, and thus would have to click many times to move it? Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Maybe the answer will affect how the UI should be, e.g. if it'd make sense to be able to select several points and then move them simultaneously. I'm just guessing wildly here though. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:55:57 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Is the reason single clicking is to slow because you have to move the point a long distance, and thus would have to click many times to move it? Yes. Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Yes. When I look at the points I want to move, I some times would like to move multiple points simultaneously. Moving them up 30, 40, 50 lines one click at a time is annoying. Doing it one at a time only is another annoyance. That's why I wanted to move what I have to Freemind, because it allows me to do these types of manipulations much more easily. Then, I can export from Freemind to HTML and import in LyX again. L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
L Duperval schrieb: Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Yes. When I look at the points I want to move, I some times would like to move multiple points simultaneously. Moving them up 30, 40, 50 lines one click at a time is annoying. Doing it one at a time only is another annoyance. But a book is structured by chapters, section and the like. LyX's outliner allows you to move whole chapters ans section to different positions. This works very well, so I don't understand your problem. You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. The best would be when you post a LyX example file to be able to help you. regards Uwe
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:17:26 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: But a book is structured by chapters, section and the like. LyX's outliner allows you to move whole chapters ans section to different positions. This works very well, so I don't understand your problem. Fair enough. You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. The best would be when you post a LyX example file to be able to help you. When I originally started the book, I was planning on having 100+ chapters, each expanding on one idea. Some chapters would be multiple pages, other may have been half a page only. But then, after I had all the headings created, I looked at it and I realized that it would be better to group them into 4 big parts, and about six chapters in each part, ans some subsections in each chapter. Now, I'm trying to take the 100+ original headings (ideas) and group them more logically. So yes, using the outline, I have to move some things around 30, 40, 50+ lines. I should have started this as a mindmap... :) L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Best way to re-order book
Hi, I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cutpaste or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. My first thought was to export from LyX to Freemind, but I haven't found a good way to do that (in particular, I haven't found a way for Freemind to import from OpenOffice, LyX or anything else while still keeping the structure correct). Does anyone have any other suggestion for me? I'm on Linux. Thanks, L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, L Duperval wrote: I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cutpaste or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:52:34 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) No. I have 100+ points that I want to reorder and single clicking one by one is too long. I prefer the DnD approach because it is much faster. I'll file an enhancement request. L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, L Duperval wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:52:34 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) No. I have 100+ points that I want to reorder and single clicking one by one is too long. I prefer the DnD approach because it is much faster. Is the reason single clicking is to slow because you have to move the point a long distance, and thus would have to click many times to move it? Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Maybe the answer will affect how the UI should be, e.g. if it'd make sense to be able to select several points and then move them simultaneously. I'm just guessing wildly here though. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:55:57 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Is the reason single clicking is to slow because you have to move the point a long distance, and thus would have to click many times to move it? Yes. Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Yes. When I look at the points I want to move, I some times would like to move multiple points simultaneously. Moving them up 30, 40, 50 lines one click at a time is annoying. Doing it one at a time only is another annoyance. That's why I wanted to move what I have to Freemind, because it allows me to do these types of manipulations much more easily. Then, I can export from Freemind to HTML and import in LyX again. L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
L Duperval schrieb: Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Yes. When I look at the points I want to move, I some times would like to move multiple points simultaneously. Moving them up 30, 40, 50 lines one click at a time is annoying. Doing it one at a time only is another annoyance. But a book is structured by chapters, section and the like. LyX's outliner allows you to move whole chapters ans section to different positions. This works very well, so I don't understand your problem. You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. The best would be when you post a LyX example file to be able to help you. regards Uwe
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:17:26 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: But a book is structured by chapters, section and the like. LyX's outliner allows you to move whole chapters ans section to different positions. This works very well, so I don't understand your problem. Fair enough. You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. The best would be when you post a LyX example file to be able to help you. When I originally started the book, I was planning on having 100+ chapters, each expanding on one idea. Some chapters would be multiple pages, other may have been half a page only. But then, after I had all the headings created, I looked at it and I realized that it would be better to group them into 4 big parts, and about six chapters in each part, ans some subsections in each chapter. Now, I'm trying to take the 100+ original headings (ideas) and group them more logically. So yes, using the outline, I have to move some things around 30, 40, 50+ lines. I should have started this as a mindmap... :) L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Best way to re-order book
Hi, I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cut or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. My first thought was to export from LyX to Freemind, but I haven't found a good way to do that (in particular, I haven't found a way for Freemind to import from OpenOffice, LyX or anything else while still keeping the structure correct). Does anyone have any other suggestion for me? I'm on Linux. Thanks, L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, L Duperval wrote: I am looking for a good way to re-order the elements of my book. There is a lot of work to do and I am looking to avoid doing cut or simply moving elements up and down in the outline. I was hoping I could drag'n'drop in the outline (which would be sufficient for now), but that is not implemented yet. It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:52:34 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? > > (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for > that in bugzilla) > No. I have 100+ points that I want to reorder and single clicking one by one is too long. I prefer the DnD approach because it is much faster. I'll file an enhancement request. L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, L Duperval wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:52:34 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: It isn't enough to use the Up/Down buttons etc in the outline dialog? (As for drag'n drop, maybe you should file an enhancement request for that in bugzilla) No. I have 100+ points that I want to reorder and single clicking one by one is too long. I prefer the DnD approach because it is much faster. Is the reason single clicking is to slow because you have to move the "point" a long distance, and thus would have to click many times to move it? Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Maybe the answer will affect how the UI should be, e.g. if it'd make sense to be able to select several "points" and then move them simultaneously. I'm just guessing wildly here though. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:55:57 +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > Is the reason single clicking is to slow because you have to move the > "point" a long distance, and thus would have to click many times to move > it? > Yes. > Or is it because there are several points that you have to move > separately? > Yes. When I look at the points I want to move, I some times would like to move multiple points simultaneously. Moving them up 30, 40, 50 lines one click at a time is annoying. Doing it one at a time only is another annoyance. That's why I wanted to move what I have to Freemind, because it allows me to do these types of manipulations much more easily. Then, I can export from Freemind to HTML and import in LyX again. L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
Re: Best way to re-order book
L Duperval schrieb: Or is it because there are several points that you have to move separately? Yes. When I look at the points I want to move, I some times would like to move multiple points simultaneously. Moving them up 30, 40, 50 lines one click at a time is annoying. Doing it one at a time only is another annoyance. But a book is structured by chapters, section and the like. LyX's outliner allows you to move whole chapters ans section to different positions. This works very well, so I don't understand your problem. You write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 sections within one chapter. The best would be when you post a LyX example file to be able to help you. regards Uwe
Re: Best way to re-order book
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:17:26 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > But a book is structured by chapters, section and the like. LyX's > outliner allows you to move whole chapters ans section to different > positions. This works very well, so I don't understand your problem. Fair enough. > You > write you want to move things up 50 lines. I doubt that you have 50 > sections within one chapter. The best would be when you post a LyX > example file to be able to help you. > When I originally started the book, I was planning on having 100+ chapters, each expanding on one idea. Some chapters would be multiple pages, other may have been half a page only. But then, after I had all the headings created, I looked at it and I realized that it would be better to group them into 4 big parts, and about six chapters in each part, ans some subsections in each chapter. Now, I'm trying to take the 100+ original headings (ideas) and group them more logically. So yes, using the outline, I have to move some things around 30, 40, 50+ lines. I should have started this as a mindmap... :) L -- Get free public speaking and communication tips by registering at http://www.duperval.com Bring out the speaker in you!
