Re: Changing LyX language

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 22.7.2013 11:06, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
 Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
 
 I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
 
 Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work.
 Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
 
 I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my
 documents are in BP.
 
 Thank you very much,
 Alexandre Lemke
 

In my opinion, this is just a symptom of a larger 'problem'.  I
constantly run into this problem while installing programs: my system is
Finnish, but I want my programs to be in English.  (You can't believe
how incomplete some localizations are, or how much they suck ;-)

Normally I solve the problem by just wiping the locale directory, but a
prettier solution would be to ask for the UI language during
installation instead of installing a huge bunch of useless language files.

 - Juha

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

23/07/2013 01:31, Scott Kostyshak:

+1. Do you also think we should get rid of OK vs Apply? For example,
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3964


Yes, but someone's got to do it :)

JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 23.07.2013 um 09:14 schrieb Juha Meriluoto juha.merilu...@gmail.com:

 On 22.7.2013 11:06, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
 Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
 
 I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
 
 Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work.
 Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
 
 I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my
 documents are in BP.
 
 Thank you very much,
 Alexandre Lemke
 
 
 In my opinion, this is just a symptom of a larger 'problem'.  I
 constantly run into this problem while installing programs: my system is
 Finnish, but I want my programs to be in English.  (You can't believe
 how incomplete some localizations are, or how much they suck ;-)
 
 Normally I solve the problem by just wiping the locale directory, but a
 prettier solution would be to ask for the UI language during
 installation instead of installing a huge bunch of useless language files.

On a Mac there is no installation. The application is a complete set of files
to be copied to the program folder. So, the best solution is to provide
all available locale data (9MB) within the package.

The UI language of LyX matches the language the user chooses. 
If an user likes it to work with English - no problem, you set it to English
and LyX will start with an english UI. Any program will/should start with
an english interface then.

Stephan

Re: Changing LyX language

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 22.7.2013 11:06, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
 Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
 
 I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
 
 Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work.
 Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
 
 I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my
 documents are in BP.
 
 Thank you very much,
 Alexandre Lemke
 

In my opinion, this is just a symptom of a larger 'problem'.  I
constantly run into this problem while installing programs: my system is
Finnish, but I want my programs to be in English.  (You can't believe
how incomplete some localizations are, or how much they suck ;-)

Normally I solve the problem by just wiping the locale directory, but a
prettier solution would be to ask for the UI language during
installation instead of installing a huge bunch of useless language files.

 - Juha

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

23/07/2013 01:31, Scott Kostyshak:

+1. Do you also think we should get rid of OK vs Apply? For example,
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3964


Yes, but someone's got to do it :)

JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 23.07.2013 um 09:14 schrieb Juha Meriluoto juha.merilu...@gmail.com:

 On 22.7.2013 11:06, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
 Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
 
 I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
 
 Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work.
 Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
 
 I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my
 documents are in BP.
 
 Thank you very much,
 Alexandre Lemke
 
 
 In my opinion, this is just a symptom of a larger 'problem'.  I
 constantly run into this problem while installing programs: my system is
 Finnish, but I want my programs to be in English.  (You can't believe
 how incomplete some localizations are, or how much they suck ;-)
 
 Normally I solve the problem by just wiping the locale directory, but a
 prettier solution would be to ask for the UI language during
 installation instead of installing a huge bunch of useless language files.

On a Mac there is no installation. The application is a complete set of files
to be copied to the program folder. So, the best solution is to provide
all available locale data (9MB) within the package.

The UI language of LyX matches the language the user chooses. 
If an user likes it to work with English - no problem, you set it to English
and LyX will start with an english UI. Any program will/should start with
an english interface then.

Stephan

Re: Changing LyX language

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 22.7.2013 11:06, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
> Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
> 
> I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
> 
> Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work.
> Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
> 
> I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my
> documents are in BP.
> 
> Thank you very much,
> Alexandre Lemke
> 

In my opinion, this is just a symptom of a larger 'problem'.  I
constantly run into this problem while installing programs: my system is
Finnish, but I want my programs to be in English.  (You can't believe
how incomplete some localizations are, or how much they suck ;-)

Normally I solve the problem by just wiping the locale directory, but a
prettier solution would be to ask for the UI language during
installation instead of installing a huge bunch of useless language files.

 - Juha

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

23/07/2013 01:31, Scott Kostyshak:

+1. Do you also think we should get rid of OK vs Apply? For example,
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3964


Yes, but someone's got to do it :)

JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 23.07.2013 um 09:14 schrieb Juha Meriluoto :

> On 22.7.2013 11:06, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
>> Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
>> 
>> I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
>> 
>> Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work.
>> Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
>> 
>> I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my
>> documents are in BP.
>> 
>> Thank you very much,
>> Alexandre Lemke
>> 
> 
> In my opinion, this is just a symptom of a larger 'problem'.  I
> constantly run into this problem while installing programs: my system is
> Finnish, but I want my programs to be in English.  (You can't believe
> how incomplete some localizations are, or how much they suck ;-)
> 
> Normally I solve the problem by just wiping the locale directory, but a
> prettier solution would be to ask for the UI language during
> installation instead of installing a huge bunch of useless language files.

On a Mac there is no installation. The application is a complete set of files
to be copied to the program folder. So, the best solution is to provide
all available locale data (9MB) within the package.

The UI language of LyX matches the language the user chooses. 
If an user likes it to work with English - no problem, you set it to English
and LyX will start with an english UI. Any program will/should start with
an english interface then.

Stephan

Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Hi,

I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in 
Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.


I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. 
Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.


I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my 
documents are in BP.


Thank you very much,
Alexandre Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
 Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.

 I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

 Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. Everything I
 found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.

 I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my documents
 are in BP.

Hi Alexandre,

The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
Run the command
  locale -a
Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
command:
  LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

Best,

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
 Run the command
   locale -a
 Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
 shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
 command:
   LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools  
Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.

Jürgen

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Thanks, Scott,

After locale -a, I run

dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
-bash: lyx: command not found

Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.


Em Mon Jul 22 05:15:58 2013, Scott Kostyshak escreveu:

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.

I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. Everything I
found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.

I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my documents
are in BP.


Hi Alexandre,

The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
Run the command
   locale -a
Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
command:
   LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

Best,

Scott

Fwd: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools 
 Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.

 Jürgen

Don't do a thing.

Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac.
I went to LyX  Preferences  etc


 Alexandre Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools 
 Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.

 Jürgen

 Don't do a thing.

 Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac. I
 went to LyX  Preferences  etc

After changing to English, did you restart?

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

Yes.




2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu

 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
  You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools 
  Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.
 
  Jürgen
 
  Don't do a thing.
 
  Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac. I
  went to LyX  Preferences  etc

 After changing to English, did you restart?

 Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Scott,

 After locale -a, I run

 dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
 -bash: lyx: command not found

 Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.

I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
ps aux | grep -i lyx

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

22/07/2013 10:29, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke:

Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.


Something like (from memory):

/Application/LyX.app/Contents/MacOSX/lyx

Do you have support for English language installed on your mac?

JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.

Thanks,
Lemke


2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu

 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks, Scott,
 
  After locale -a, I run
 
  dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
  -bash: lyx: command not found
 
  Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.

 I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
 way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
 being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
 ps aux | grep -i lyx

 Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:

 I got it.
 
 I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/
 
 and run
 
 LANG=en_US ./lyx
 
 and worked :]
 
 I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.

This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
 You change this within the preferences.
 Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
 There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
 This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
 A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
 assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
 to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
 To make a language the default document language create an
 empty document, change the document language to your favorite
 one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan

 2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu
 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks, Scott,
 
  After locale -a, I run
 
  dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
  -bash: lyx: command not found
 
  Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.
 
 I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
 way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
 being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
 ps aux | grep -i lyx
 
 Scott
 

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:


Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:




I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.



This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
You change this within the preferences.
Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
To make a language the default document language create an
empty document, change the document language to your favorite
one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan


How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

I will file a bug later.

Thanks,
Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:

 Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:
 
 Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com:
 
 
 I got it.
 
 I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/
 
 and run
 
 LANG=en_US ./lyx
 
 and worked :]
 
 I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.
 
 
 This shouldn't be necessary.
 You have two different types of language:
 
 1) The interface language
 You change this within the preferences.
 Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
 There it's in Language Settings.
 
 2) The document language
 This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
 A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
 assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
 to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
 To make a language the default document language create an
 empty document, change the document language to your favorite
 one and save this as document defaults.
 
 The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
 dictionaries and translations for.
 
 Regards,
 Stephan
 
 How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

You can reach the global preferences panel with:
Press and hold Command (Cmd) key and then comma (,)

What do you think is incomplete?
I tried this with brazilian keyboard and it worked.

The change of GUI language has to be saved,
the apply button doesn't work in this case.

I tried it with portuguese language environment for
a test user. I changed the GUI language to inglés,
saved it, restarted LyX and got the english interface.
I doubt that there is any difference between inglés
and inglés (UK) for the GUI, but this is better
than nothing. :)

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Em 22/07/13 18:47, Stephan Witt escreveu:

Am 22.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:


Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:

Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:


I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.


This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
You change this within the preferences.
Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
To make a language the default document language create an
empty document, change the document language to your favorite
one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan


How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

You can reach the global preferences panel with:
Press and hold Command (Cmd) key and then comma (,)

What do you think is incomplete?
I tried this with brazilian keyboard and it worked.

The change of GUI language has to be saved,
the apply button doesn't work in this case.

I tried it with portuguese language environment for
a test user. I changed the GUI language to inglés,
saved it, restarted LyX and got the english interface.
I doubt that there is any difference between inglés
and inglés (UK) for the GUI, but this is better
than nothing. :)

Regards,
Stephan
Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP 
and BP words for save are different. I totally miss the button.


Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic misleading.

Thank you very much,
Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 23/07/13 00:09, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke a écrit :

Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP
and BP words for save are different. I totally miss the button.

Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic
misleading.


I think we should get rid of this Save vs. Apply thing. Prefs should 
always be saved.


JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Le 23/07/13 00:09, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke a écrit :

 Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP
 and BP words for save are different. I totally miss the button.

 Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic
 misleading.


 I think we should get rid of this Save vs. Apply thing. Prefs should always
 be saved.

+1. Do you also think we should get rid of OK vs Apply? For example,
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3964

Scott

Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Hi,

I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in 
Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.


I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. 
Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.


I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my 
documents are in BP.


Thank you very much,
Alexandre Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
 Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.

 I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

 Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. Everything I
 found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.

 I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my documents
 are in BP.

Hi Alexandre,

The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
Run the command
  locale -a
Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
command:
  LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

Best,

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
 Run the command
   locale -a
 Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
 shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
 command:
   LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools  
Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.

Jürgen

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Thanks, Scott,

After locale -a, I run

dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
-bash: lyx: command not found

Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.


Em Mon Jul 22 05:15:58 2013, Scott Kostyshak escreveu:

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.

I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. Everything I
found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.

I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my documents
are in BP.


Hi Alexandre,

The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
Run the command
   locale -a
Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
command:
   LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

Best,

Scott

Fwd: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools 
 Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.

 Jürgen

Don't do a thing.

Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac.
I went to LyX  Preferences  etc


 Alexandre Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools 
 Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.

 Jürgen

 Don't do a thing.

 Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac. I
 went to LyX  Preferences  etc

After changing to English, did you restart?

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

Yes.




2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu

 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
  You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools 
  Preferences  Language Settings  Language  User interface language.
 
  Jürgen
 
  Don't do a thing.
 
  Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac. I
  went to LyX  Preferences  etc

 After changing to English, did you restart?

 Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Scott,

 After locale -a, I run

 dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
 -bash: lyx: command not found

 Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.

I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
ps aux | grep -i lyx

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

22/07/2013 10:29, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke:

Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.


Something like (from memory):

/Application/LyX.app/Contents/MacOSX/lyx

Do you have support for English language installed on your mac?

JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.

Thanks,
Lemke


2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu

 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks, Scott,
 
  After locale -a, I run
 
  dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
  -bash: lyx: command not found
 
  Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.

 I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
 way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
 being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
 ps aux | grep -i lyx

 Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:

 I got it.
 
 I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/
 
 and run
 
 LANG=en_US ./lyx
 
 and worked :]
 
 I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.

This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
 You change this within the preferences.
 Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
 There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
 This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
 A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
 assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
 to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
 To make a language the default document language create an
 empty document, change the document language to your favorite
 one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan

 2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu
 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks, Scott,
 
  After locale -a, I run
 
  dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
  -bash: lyx: command not found
 
  Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.
 
 I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
 way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
 being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
 ps aux | grep -i lyx
 
 Scott
 

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:


Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:




I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.



This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
You change this within the preferences.
Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
To make a language the default document language create an
empty document, change the document language to your favorite
one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan


How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

I will file a bug later.

Thanks,
Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:

 Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:
 
 Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
 alexandre.le...@gmail.com:
 
 
 I got it.
 
 I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/
 
 and run
 
 LANG=en_US ./lyx
 
 and worked :]
 
 I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.
 
 
 This shouldn't be necessary.
 You have two different types of language:
 
 1) The interface language
 You change this within the preferences.
 Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
 There it's in Language Settings.
 
 2) The document language
 This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
 A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
 assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
 to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
 To make a language the default document language create an
 empty document, change the document language to your favorite
 one and save this as document defaults.
 
 The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
 dictionaries and translations for.
 
 Regards,
 Stephan
 
 How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

You can reach the global preferences panel with:
Press and hold Command (Cmd) key and then comma (,)

What do you think is incomplete?
I tried this with brazilian keyboard and it worked.

The change of GUI language has to be saved,
the apply button doesn't work in this case.

I tried it with portuguese language environment for
a test user. I changed the GUI language to inglés,
saved it, restarted LyX and got the english interface.
I doubt that there is any difference between inglés
and inglés (UK) for the GUI, but this is better
than nothing. :)

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Em 22/07/13 18:47, Stephan Witt escreveu:

Am 22.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:


Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:

Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
alexandre.le...@gmail.com:


I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.


This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
You change this within the preferences.
Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
To make a language the default document language create an
empty document, change the document language to your favorite
one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan


How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

You can reach the global preferences panel with:
Press and hold Command (Cmd) key and then comma (,)

What do you think is incomplete?
I tried this with brazilian keyboard and it worked.

The change of GUI language has to be saved,
the apply button doesn't work in this case.

I tried it with portuguese language environment for
a test user. I changed the GUI language to inglés,
saved it, restarted LyX and got the english interface.
I doubt that there is any difference between inglés
and inglés (UK) for the GUI, but this is better
than nothing. :)

Regards,
Stephan
Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP 
and BP words for save are different. I totally miss the button.


Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic misleading.

Thank you very much,
Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 23/07/13 00:09, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke a écrit :

Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP
and BP words for save are different. I totally miss the button.

Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic
misleading.


I think we should get rid of this Save vs. Apply thing. Prefs should 
always be saved.


JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Le 23/07/13 00:09, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke a écrit :

 Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP
 and BP words for save are different. I totally miss the button.

 Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic
 misleading.


 I think we should get rid of this Save vs. Apply thing. Prefs should always
 be saved.

+1. Do you also think we should get rid of OK vs Apply? For example,
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3964

Scott

Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Hi,

I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in 
Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.


I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. 
Everything I found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.


I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my 
documents are in BP.


Thank you very much,
Alexandre Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
> Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.
>
> I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.
>
> Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. Everything I
> found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.
>
> I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my documents
> are in BP.

Hi Alexandre,

The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
Run the command
  locale -a
Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
command:
  LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

Best,

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
> Run the command
>   locale -a
> Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
> shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
> command:
>   LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools > 
Preferences > Language Settings > Language > User interface language.

Jürgen

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Thanks, Scott,

After locale -a, I run

dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
-bash: lyx: command not found

Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.


Em Mon Jul 22 05:15:58 2013, Scott Kostyshak escreveu:

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 wrote:

Hi,

I'm a new LyX user and I am having a little problem: my system is in
Brazilian Portuguese, but I want LyX to be in English.

I'm using Mac OS X 10.8.4 and LyX 2.0.6.

Language configuration (Configuração de Língua) does not work. Everything I
found on Google is for old version or Windows and Linux.

I don't want to change dictionary or anything like that, all my documents
are in BP.


Hi Alexandre,

The following works for me on Ubuntu (I think it should work on Mac).
Run the command
   locale -a
Then locate the language-country combination you want (for me, it
shows as 'en_US.utf8' in the output), and then run the following
command:
   LANG=en_US.utf8 lyx

Best,

Scott

Fwd: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools >
> Preferences > Language Settings > Language > User interface language.
>
> Jürgen

Don't do a thing.

Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac.
I went to LyX > Preferences > etc


 Alexandre Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke
 wrote:
>
> Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
>> You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools >
>> Preferences > Language Settings > Language > User interface language.
>>
>> Jürgen
>
> Don't do a thing.
>
> Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac. I
> went to LyX > Preferences > etc

After changing to English, did you restart?

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

Yes.




2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak 

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke
>  wrote:
> >
> > Am Montag 22 Juli 2013, 04:15:58 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> >> You should also be able to set the GUI language permanently in Tools >
> >> Preferences > Language Settings > Language > User interface language.
> >>
> >> Jürgen
> >
> > Don't do a thing.
> >
> > Actually, there is no Preferences in Tools, probably because it's Mac. I
> > went to LyX > Preferences > etc
>
> After changing to English, did you restart?
>
> Scott
>

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
 wrote:
> Thanks, Scott,
>
> After locale -a, I run
>
> dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
> -bash: lyx: command not found
>
> Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.

I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
"ps aux | grep -i lyx"

Scott

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

22/07/2013 10:29, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke:

Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.


Something like (from memory):

/Application/LyX.app/Contents/MacOSX/lyx

Do you have support for English language installed on your mac?

JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke]

I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.

Thanks,
Lemke


2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak 

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
>  wrote:
> > Thanks, Scott,
> >
> > After locale -a, I run
> >
> > dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
> > -bash: lyx: command not found
> >
> > Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.
>
> I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
> way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
> being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
> "ps aux | grep -i lyx"
>
> Scott
>

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
:

> I got it.
> 
> I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/
> 
> and run
> 
> LANG=en_US ./lyx
> 
> and worked :]
> 
> I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.

This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
 You change this within the preferences.
 Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
 There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
 This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
 A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
 assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
 to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
 To make a language the default document language create an
 empty document, change the document language to your favorite
 one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan

> 2013/7/22 Scott Kostyshak 
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke
>  wrote:
> > Thanks, Scott,
> >
> > After locale -a, I run
> >
> > dawkins:~ alexandre$ LANG=en_US lyx
> > -bash: lyx: command not found
> >
> > Have no idea how to call LyX on terminal. It was a drag'n'drop install.
> 
> I don't know much about Macs. You could try running LyX the normal
> way, and then viewing processes to see what the command is that's
> being run. There's probably some Mac utility that does this. Or run
> "ps aux | grep -i lyx"
> 
> Scott
> 

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:


Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
:




I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.



This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
You change this within the preferences.
Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
To make a language the default document language create an
empty document, change the document language to your favorite
one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan


How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

I will file a bug later.

Thanks,
Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Stephan Witt]

Am 22.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke 
:

> Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:
>> 
>> Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
>> :
>> 
>>> 
>>> I got it.
>>> 
>>> I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/
>>> 
>>> and run
>>> 
>>> LANG=en_US ./lyx
>>> 
>>> and worked :]
>>> 
>>> I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.
>> 
>> 
>> This shouldn't be necessary.
>> You have two different types of language:
>> 
>> 1) The interface language
>> You change this within the preferences.
>> Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
>> There it's in Language Settings.
>> 
>> 2) The document language
>> This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
>> A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
>> assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
>> to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
>> To make a language the default document language create an
>> empty document, change the document language to your favorite
>> one and save this as document defaults.
>> 
>> The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
>> dictionaries and translations for.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>> 
> How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

You can reach the global preferences panel with:
Press and hold Command (Cmd) key and then comma (,)

What do you think is incomplete?
I tried this with brazilian keyboard and it worked.

The change of GUI language has to be saved,
the apply button doesn't work in this case.

I tried it with portuguese language environment for
a test user. I changed the GUI language to "inglés",
saved it, restarted LyX and got the english interface.
I doubt that there is any difference between "inglés"
and "inglés (UK)" for the GUI, but this is better
than nothing. :)

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Changing LyX language

[Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke]

Em 22/07/13 18:47, Stephan Witt escreveu:

Am 22.07.2013 um 22:59 schrieb Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke 
:


Em Mon Jul 22 13:40:14 2013, Stephan Witt escreveu:

Am 22.07.2013 um 11:12 schrieb Alexandre de S Thiago Lemke 
:


I got it.

I went to ~/Application/Lyx.app/Contents/MacOS/

and run

LANG=en_US ./lyx

and worked :]

I have to do it every time I launch it, but is good enough.


This shouldn't be necessary.
You have two different types of language:

1) The interface language
You change this within the preferences.
Like every other Mac application you reach it with Command+,
There it's in Language Settings.

2) The document language
This is the language for text formatting and spell checking.
A document doesn't have to be written mono-lingual. You may
assign parts of it a different language. The language passed
to the spell checker corresponds to the text language.
To make a language the default document language create an
empty document, change the document language to your favorite
one and save this as document defaults.

The LyX application for Mac comes with all languages we have
dictionaries and translations for.

Regards,
Stephan


How can I reach it? Shortcut is incomplete.

You can reach the global preferences panel with:
Press and hold Command (Cmd) key and then comma (,)

What do you think is incomplete?
I tried this with brazilian keyboard and it worked.

The change of GUI language has to be saved,
the apply button doesn't work in this case.

I tried it with portuguese language environment for
a test user. I changed the GUI language to "inglés",
saved it, restarted LyX and got the english interface.
I doubt that there is any difference between "inglés"
and "inglés (UK)" for the GUI, but this is better
than nothing. :)

Regards,
Stephan
Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP 
and BP words for "save" are different. I totally miss the button.


Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic misleading.

Thank you very much,
Lemke

Re: Changing LyX language

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 23/07/13 00:09, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke a écrit :

Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP
and BP words for "save" are different. I totally miss the button.

Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic
misleading.


I think we should get rid of this Save vs. Apply thing. Prefs should 
always be saved.


JMarc

Re: Changing LyX language

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 wrote:
> Le 23/07/13 00:09, Alexandre de S. Thiago Lemke a écrit :
>
>> Oh! I was hitting apply. LyX only have European Portuguese and the EP
>> and BP words for "save" are different. I totally miss the button.
>>
>> Now everything is working fine. There was no bug, just idiomatic
>> misleading.
>
>
> I think we should get rid of this Save vs. Apply thing. Prefs should always
> be saved.

+1. Do you also think we should get rid of OK vs Apply? For example,
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/3964

Scott