Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

On 06/17/2015 05:24 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/17/2015 01:12 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or 
fourth file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned 
bibliography' option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document 
setting dialog.


You only need to do sectioned bibliographies if you want to references 
to be separate somehow. If you just want them all in one place, then 
just choose the various files.


Richard


Hi Richard,
thanks for your info. That is exactly what I found out yesterday by myself.
Some weeks ago I had to write a thesis with four bibliographies each 
with respective names  for a special linguistic category.
Now, that worked eventually after I activated the sectioned bibliography 
option but not without adding some other tricks Jürgen Spitzmüller told 
me. That's probably the reason why I did not think of trying the most 
obvious thing.


Thanks for your input.

Michael

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Richard Heck]

On 06/17/2015 01:12 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or 
fourth file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned 
bibliography' option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document 
setting dialog.


You only need to do sectioned bibliographies if you want to references 
to be separate somehow. If you just want them all in one place, then 
just choose the various files.


Richard

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Richard Heck]

On 06/17/2015 01:12 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or 
fourth file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned 
bibliography' option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document 
setting dialog.


You only need to do sectioned bibliographies if you want to references 
to be separate somehow. If you just want them all in one place, then 
just choose the various files.


Richard

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

On 06/17/2015 05:24 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/17/2015 01:12 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or 
fourth file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned 
bibliography' option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document 
setting dialog.


You only need to do sectioned bibliographies if you want to references 
to be separate somehow. If you just want them all in one place, then 
just choose the various files.


Richard


Hi Richard,
thanks for your info. That is exactly what I found out yesterday by myself.
Some weeks ago I had to write a thesis with four bibliographies each 
with respective names  for a special linguistic category.
Now, that worked eventually after I activated the sectioned bibliography 
option but not without adding some other tricks Jürgen Spitzmüller told 
me. That's probably the reason why I did not think of trying the most 
obvious thing.


Thanks for your input.

Michael

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Richard Heck]

On 06/17/2015 01:12 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or 
fourth file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned 
bibliography' option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document 
setting dialog.


You only need to do sectioned bibliographies if you want to references 
to be separate somehow. If you just want them all in one place, then 
just choose the various files.


Richard

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

On 06/17/2015 05:24 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/17/2015 01:12 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or 
fourth file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned 
bibliography' option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document 
setting dialog.


You only need to do sectioned bibliographies if you want to references 
to be separate somehow. If you just want them all in one place, then 
just choose the various files.


Richard


Hi Richard,
thanks for your info. That is exactly what I found out yesterday by myself.
Some weeks ago I had to write a thesis with four bibliographies each 
with respective names  for a special linguistic category.
Now, that worked eventually after I activated the sectioned bibliography 
option but not without adding some other tricks Jürgen Spitzmüller told 
me. That's probably the reason why I did not think of trying the most 
obvious thing.


Thanks for your input.

Michael

citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography managerfor 
my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) how could this be done 
- if at all? What are the possible alternatives to having a single very 
big reference database?


Thanks and cheers!

Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Richard Heck]

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography managerfor 
my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or fourth 
file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned bibliography' 
option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document setting dialog.
On second thought I think that my idea is of insignificant advantage and 
should be happy with the way Lyx is offering.


Sorry for the turbulence!

Michael

citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography managerfor 
my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) how could this be done 
- if at all? What are the possible alternatives to having a single very 
big reference database?


Thanks and cheers!

Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Richard Heck]

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography managerfor 
my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or fourth 
file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned bibliography' 
option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document setting dialog.
On second thought I think that my idea is of insignificant advantage and 
should be happy with the way Lyx is offering.


Sorry for the turbulence!

Michael

citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography managerfor 
my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) how could this be done 
- if at all? What are the possible alternatives to having a single very 
big reference database?


Thanks and cheers!

Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Richard Heck]

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography managerfor 
my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard

Re: citing references from different kbibtex files

[Michael Berger]

On 06/16/2015 04:57 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 06/16/2015 08:15 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear Friends of LyX,
I am using KBibTeX (openSUSE 13.2, KDE) as the bibliography 
managerfor my several linguistic documents.


My question:
If I had to cite references in a LyX-document from different 
kbibtexfiles (ling1.bib, ling2.bib lingx.bib) 


Just choose each of these files in the BibTeX dialog. Presumably you 
have already provided one.


Richard


Thanks Wolfgang and Richard,
Looks like I could not make myself clear enough - sorry for that.

What I meant was to cite references from two or more different bibtex 
files in a somewhat simpler way than loading the second, third or fourth 
file into the document and activating the 'Sectioned bibliography' 
option under Bibliography Style in LyX's Document setting dialog.
On second thought I think that my idea is of insignificant advantage and 
should be happy with the way Lyx is offering.


Sorry for the turbulence!

Michael

list of citations and multiple citing

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hello,
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by A,B,C). 
However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) only A is 
shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a bit annoying 
if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or at the first 
place. Could this be improved?

Wolfgang

Re: list of citations and multiple citing

[Richard Heck]

On 08/22/2014 03:41 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Hello,
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by 
A,B,C). However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) 
only A is shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a 
bit annoying if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or 
at the first place. Could this be improved?


I see what you mean. Can you file a bug report about this on trac? It 
would be very easy to change, except that we rely upon the way it is now 
in other parts of the code.


Richard

Re: list of citations and multiple citing

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hello, Richard,
could you kindly forward and, if necessary, complete this bug report?
Let me know if I forgot something.

Lyx Version 2.1.1
os=unix
effect cosmetic
enhancement request

lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations
example: as cited by A,B,C
where A,B,C is shown as a combined citation
However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) only A is 
shown

(unless B and/or C are cited somewhere else)
Improvement proposal: show in the list of citations B and C in addition to A
Reason: checking for citations would cover all of them

reported by Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de

thanks

Am 22.08.2014 um 17:18 schrieb Richard Heck:
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by 
A,B,C). However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) 
only A is shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a 
bit annoying if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or 
at the first place. Could this be improved? 

list of citations and multiple citing

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hello,
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by A,B,C). 
However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) only A is 
shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a bit annoying 
if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or at the first 
place. Could this be improved?

Wolfgang

Re: list of citations and multiple citing

[Richard Heck]

On 08/22/2014 03:41 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Hello,
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by 
A,B,C). However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) 
only A is shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a 
bit annoying if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or 
at the first place. Could this be improved?


I see what you mean. Can you file a bug report about this on trac? It 
would be very easy to change, except that we rely upon the way it is now 
in other parts of the code.


Richard

Re: list of citations and multiple citing

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hello, Richard,
could you kindly forward and, if necessary, complete this bug report?
Let me know if I forgot something.

Lyx Version 2.1.1
os=unix
effect cosmetic
enhancement request

lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations
example: as cited by A,B,C
where A,B,C is shown as a combined citation
However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) only A is 
shown

(unless B and/or C are cited somewhere else)
Improvement proposal: show in the list of citations B and C in addition to A
Reason: checking for citations would cover all of them

reported by Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de

thanks

Am 22.08.2014 um 17:18 schrieb Richard Heck:
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by 
A,B,C). However, in the list of citations (outlinelist of citations) 
only A is shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a 
bit annoying if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or 
at the first place. Could this be improved? 

list of citations and multiple citing

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hello,
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by A,B,C). 
However, in the list of citations (outline>list of citations) only A is 
shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a bit annoying 
if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or at the first 
place. Could this be improved?

Wolfgang

Re: list of citations and multiple citing

[Richard Heck]

On 08/22/2014 03:41 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Hello,
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by 
A,B,C). However, in the list of citations (outline>list of citations) 
only A is shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a 
bit annoying if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or 
at the first place. Could this be improved?


I see what you mean. Can you file a bug report about this on trac? It 
would be very easy to change, except that we rely upon the way it is now 
in other parts of the code.


Richard

Re: list of citations and multiple citing

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hello, Richard,
could you kindly forward and, if necessary, complete this bug report?
Let me know if I forgot something.

Lyx Version 2.1.1
os=unix
effect cosmetic
enhancement request

lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations
example: as cited by A,B,C
where A,B,C is shown as a combined citation
However, in the list of citations (outline>list of citations) only A is 
shown

(unless B and/or C are cited somewhere else)
Improvement proposal: show in the list of citations B and C in addition to A
Reason: checking for citations would cover all of them

reported by Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de

thanks

Am 22.08.2014 um 17:18 schrieb Richard Heck:
lyx (2.x) allows to combine several citations (e.g. as shown by 
A,B,C). However, in the list of citations (outline>list of citations) 
only A is shown (unless B and or C are cited somewhere else). It is a 
bit annoying if one checks for a citation which is not cited alone or 
at the first place. Could this be improved? 

Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

Dear All,

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 8:38 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author 
list. Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
 citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
 pdf file:

 Author1 et al. (2000).

 Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
 file:

 Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

 ?

 In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author list.
 Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.

Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 9:23 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca  wrote:

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?


In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author list.
Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?

Paul



Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this 
style file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is 
simply not natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:


\bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

which should instead read

\bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

in order for natbib to produce a full author list.

--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
 citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
 pdf file:

 Author1 et al. (2000).

 Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
 file:

 Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

 ?

 In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author
 list.
 Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.

 Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
 using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
 style?

 Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this style
 file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is simply not
 natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:

 \bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

 which should instead read

 \bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

 in order for natbib to produce a full author list.

Thanks again, Julien. Is there a workaround?

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 9:56 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca  wrote:

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?


In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author
list.
Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?


Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this style
file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is simply not
natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:

\bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

which should instead read

\bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

in order for natbib to produce a full author list.


Thanks again, Julien. Is there a workaround?

Paul



I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the 
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author 
names in your LyX file.


--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Richard Heck]

On 08/17/2011 10:03 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:

 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Richard

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 10:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 08/17/2011 10:03 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:


I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
names in your LyX file.


Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Richard



Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

Paul, it might be worth researching the list archive.

Cheers,
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

 Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
 plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
 make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
 too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
 latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

 Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

 Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

 Paul, it might be worth researching the list archive.

Thanks, Julien and Richard. I have meanwhile found another BibTeX
file, which fits my needs and does not show the problem that apalike
exhibits.

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Richard Heck]

On 08/17/2011 11:28 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
 jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

 Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
 plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
 make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
 too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
 latter routine. But it should be straightforward.
 Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

Indeed.

 Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

Yeah, I do a lot of such tweaking:
   
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/426413473488bfce#

Richard

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 12:31 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 08/17/2011 11:28 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca  wrote:

I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
names in your LyX file.


Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.


Indeed.


Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?


Yeah, I do a lot of such tweaking:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/426413473488bfce#

Richard




What? What are those % signs? *Comments*, you say? ;)

--
Julien

Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

Dear All,

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 8:38 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author 
list. Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
 citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
 pdf file:

 Author1 et al. (2000).

 Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
 file:

 Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

 ?

 In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author list.
 Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.

Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 9:23 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca  wrote:

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?


In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author list.
Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?

Paul



Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this 
style file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is 
simply not natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:


\bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

which should instead read

\bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

in order for natbib to produce a full author list.

--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
 citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
 pdf file:

 Author1 et al. (2000).

 Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
 file:

 Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

 ?

 In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author
 list.
 Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.

 Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
 using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
 style?

 Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this style
 file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is simply not
 natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:

 \bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

 which should instead read

 \bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

 in order for natbib to produce a full author list.

Thanks again, Julien. Is there a workaround?

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 9:56 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca  wrote:

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?


In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark Full author
list.
Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?


Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this style
file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is simply not
natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:

\bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

which should instead read

\bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

in order for natbib to produce a full author list.


Thanks again, Julien. Is there a workaround?

Paul



I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the 
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author 
names in your LyX file.


--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Richard Heck]

On 08/17/2011 10:03 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:

 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Richard

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 10:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 08/17/2011 10:03 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:


I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
names in your LyX file.


Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Richard



Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

Paul, it might be worth researching the list archive.

Cheers,
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

 Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
 plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
 make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
 too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
 latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

 Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

 Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

 Paul, it might be worth researching the list archive.

Thanks, Julien and Richard. I have meanwhile found another BibTeX
file, which fits my needs and does not show the problem that apalike
exhibits.

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Richard Heck]

On 08/17/2011 11:28 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
 jri...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

 Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
 plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
 make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
 too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
 latter routine. But it should be straightforward.
 Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

Indeed.

 Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

Yeah, I do a lot of such tweaking:
   
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/426413473488bfce#

Richard

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 12:31 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 08/17/2011 11:28 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
jri...@physics.utoronto.ca  wrote:

I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
names in your LyX file.


Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.


Indeed.


Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?


Yeah, I do a lot of such tweaking:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/426413473488bfce#

Richard




What? What are those % signs? *Comments*, you say? ;)

--
Julien

Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

Dear All,

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 8:38 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All,

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark "Full author 
list". Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Julien Rioux
<jri...@physics.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>> Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
>> citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
>> pdf file:
>>
>> Author1 et al. (2000).
>>
>> Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
>> file:
>>
>> Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)
>>
>> ?
>
> In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark "Full author list".
> Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.

Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 9:23 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Julien Rioux
<jri...@physics.utoronto.ca>  wrote:

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?


In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark "Full author list".
Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?

Paul



Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this 
style file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is 
simply not natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:


\bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

which should instead read

\bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

in order for natbib to produce a full author list.

--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Julien Rioux
<jri...@physics.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>> Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
>>>> citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
>>>> pdf file:
>>>>
>>>> Author1 et al. (2000).
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
>>>> file:
>>>>
>>>> Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>
>>> In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark "Full author
>>> list".
>>> Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.
>>
>> Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
>> using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
>> style?
>
> Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this style
> file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is simply not
> natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:
>
> \bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}
>
> which should instead read
>
> \bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}
>
> in order for natbib to produce a full author list.

Thanks again, Julien. Is there a workaround?

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 9:56 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Julien Rioux
<jri...@physics.utoronto.ca>  wrote:

Consider a BibTeX entry with 3 authors. With the style apalike, when
citing this BibTeX entry, I get something like the following in the
pdf file:

Author1 et al. (2000).

Is it possible instead to get something like the following in the pdf
file:

Author1, Author2 and Author3 (2000)

?


In the citation dialog, near the bottom, is a checkmark "Full author
list".
Does it work for you? It works here with a natbib style.


Thanks, Julien. I have tried that, but with no success. And yes, I am
using natlib with apalike style. Have you tried that with apalike
style?


Right, I get the same failure here with apalike. It seems that this style
file is either not the most recent and needs updating, or is simply not
natbib compatible. It produces in the .bbl file a line:

\bibitem[Einstein et~al., 1935]{EPR1935}

which should instead read

\bibitem[Einstein et~al.(1935)Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen]{EPR1935}

in order for natbib to produce a full author list.


Thanks again, Julien. Is there a workaround?

Paul



I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the 
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author 
names in your LyX file.


--
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Richard Heck]

On 08/17/2011 10:03 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:
>
> I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
> apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
> names in your LyX file.
>
Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Richard

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 10:22 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 08/17/2011 10:03 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:


I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
names in your LyX file.


Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Richard



Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.

Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?

Paul, it might be worth researching the list archive.

Cheers,
Julien

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Paul Smith]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
 wrote:
>>> I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
>>> apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
>>> names in your LyX file.
>>>
>> Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
>> plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
>> make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
>> too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
>> latter routine. But it should be straightforward.
>
> Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.
>
> Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?
>
> Paul, it might be worth researching the list archive.

Thanks, Julien and Richard. I have meanwhile found another BibTeX
file, which fits my needs and does not show the problem that apalike
exhibits.

Paul

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Richard Heck]

On 08/17/2011 11:28 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
>  wrote:
 I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
 apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
 names in your LyX file.

>>> Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
>>> plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
>>> make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
>>> too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
>>> latter routine. But it should be straightforward.
>> Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.
>>
Indeed.

>> Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?
>>
Yeah, I do a lot of such tweaking:
   
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/426413473488bfce#

Richard

Re: Show all authors when citing BibTeX entry

[Julien Rioux]

On 17/08/2011 12:31 PM, Richard Heck wrote:

On 08/17/2011 11:28 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Julien Rioux
  wrote:

I might waste time learning bibtex's stack language to tweak the
apalike.bst file, but a quick workaround is simply to write the author
names in your LyX file.


Just compare the output.bibitem routine in apalike with the one in
plainnat, and you'll see what has to be done. It looks like the
make.full.names and author.editor.full routines will need copying over,
too, and you may need to change how the names are formatted in the
latter routine. But it should be straightforward.

Yes, I actually know enough that I could do this, but time is finite.


Indeed.


Richard, I think you did tweak apalike.bst in an older thread?


Yeah, I do a lot of such tweaking:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/426413473488bfce#

Richard




What? What are those % signs? *Comments*, you say? ;)

--
Julien

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[Julio Rojas]

It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:

I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
be compatible.
Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
main incompatibility is that
different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
same document with
natbib or apacite.

Regards.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

 Hello!

 I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports,
 thesis
 etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
 date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am
 experimenting
 using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
 inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year,
 using
 apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
 and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation
 as
 appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

 When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
 use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

 Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
 downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which
 has
 correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This
 tells
 me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately,
 I
 am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
 considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just
 too
 far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
 citation format ;-)

 On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to
 get
 it (and doesn't say where from!)

 Thanks in advance,

 MarkL


 Hi,

 First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

 Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble
 (Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)

 \usepackage{apacite}

 (not tested)

 --
 Julien

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:
 I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
 be compatible.
 Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
 main incompatibility is that
 different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
 same document with
 natbib or apacite.
 Regards.

You may consider switching to biblatex (from standard bibtex) and
using the biblatex-apa style (http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-apa).
Biblatex is not completely integrated with Lyx yet, so you may have to
write a few commands in ERT (i.e. pure Latex), but it works fairly
well once you get the hang of it. Look at the wikipages to get started
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex). I switched to using biblatex  a
couple of years ago and have no regrets---it is much more flexible and
powerful than bibtex. Moreover, it is clearly the way forward for
managing bibliographies in latex/Lyx. It is actively developed, with
an increasing user base, etc. If you are just starting in Lyx/Latex,
it may be wise to learn how to use it. However, I have no experience
with biblatex-apa. You may want to look at the manual to see if it
fits your needs.

Cheers,

Stefano

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[Julio Rojas]

It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:

I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
be compatible.
Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
main incompatibility is that
different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
same document with
natbib or apacite.

Regards.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

 Hello!

 I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports,
 thesis
 etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
 date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am
 experimenting
 using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
 inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year,
 using
 apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
 and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation
 as
 appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

 When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
 use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

 Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
 downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which
 has
 correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This
 tells
 me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately,
 I
 am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
 considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just
 too
 far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
 citation format ;-)

 On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to
 get
 it (and doesn't say where from!)

 Thanks in advance,

 MarkL


 Hi,

 First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

 Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble
 (Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)

 \usepackage{apacite}

 (not tested)

 --
 Julien

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:
 I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
 be compatible.
 Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
 main incompatibility is that
 different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
 same document with
 natbib or apacite.
 Regards.

You may consider switching to biblatex (from standard bibtex) and
using the biblatex-apa style (http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-apa).
Biblatex is not completely integrated with Lyx yet, so you may have to
write a few commands in ERT (i.e. pure Latex), but it works fairly
well once you get the hang of it. Look at the wikipages to get started
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex). I switched to using biblatex  a
couple of years ago and have no regrets---it is much more flexible and
powerful than bibtex. Moreover, it is clearly the way forward for
managing bibliographies in latex/Lyx. It is actively developed, with
an increasing user base, etc. If you are just starting in Lyx/Latex,
it may be wise to learn how to use it. However, I have no experience
with biblatex-apa. You may want to look at the manual to see if it
fits your needs.

Cheers,

Stefano

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[Julio Rojas]

It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:

I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
be compatible.
Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
main incompatibility is that
different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
same document with
natbib or apacite.

Regards.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:

> On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports,
>> thesis
>> etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
>> date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am
>> experimenting
>> using the "article (KOMA-Script)" document class. Into my document, I have
>> inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year,
>> using
>> "apacite" and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
>> and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation
>> as
>> appropriate for varying numbers of authors.
>>
>> When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
>> use "and" instead of "&", and the volume numbers are not italicised.
>>
>> Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
>> downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses "apacite" and which
>> has
>> correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This
>> tells
>> me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately,
>> I
>> am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
>> considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just
>> too
>> far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
>> citation format ;-)
>>
>> On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to
>> get
>> it (and doesn't say where from!)
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> MarkL
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.
>
> Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble
> (Document > Settings > LaTeX preamble)
>
> \usepackage{apacite}
>
> (not tested)
>
> --
> Julien
>

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Julio Rojas  wrote:
> It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:
> I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
> be compatible.
> Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
> main incompatibility is that
> different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
> same document with
> natbib or apacite.
> Regards.

You may consider switching to biblatex (from standard bibtex) and
using the biblatex-apa style (http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-apa).
Biblatex is not completely integrated with Lyx yet, so you may have to
write a few commands in ERT (i.e. pure Latex), but it works fairly
well once you get the hang of it. Look at the wikipages to get started
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex). I switched to using biblatex  a
couple of years ago and have no regrets---it is much more flexible and
powerful than bibtex. Moreover, it is clearly the way forward for
managing bibliographies in latex/Lyx. It is actively developed, with
an increasing user base, etc. If you are just starting in Lyx/Latex,
it may be wise to learn how to use it. However, I have no experience
with biblatex-apa. You may want to look at the manual to see if it
fits your needs.

Cheers,

Stefano

Need help getting APA citing working

[Mark Livingstone]

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[Julien Rioux]

On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL



Hi,

First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble 
(Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)


\usepackage{apacite}

(not tested)

--
Julien

Need help getting APA citing working

[Mark Livingstone]

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[Julien Rioux]

On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL



Hi,

First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble 
(Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)


\usepackage{apacite}

(not tested)

--
Julien

Need help getting APA citing working

[Mark Livingstone]

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the "article (KOMA-Script)" document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
"apacite" and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use "and" instead of "&", and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses "apacite" and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL

Re: Need help getting APA citing working

[Julien Rioux]

On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the "article (KOMA-Script)" document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
"apacite" and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use "and" instead of "&", and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses "apacite" and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL



Hi,

First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble 
(Document > Settings > LaTeX preamble)


\usepackage{apacite}

(not tested)

--
Julien

Citing more than one paper

[Julio Rojas]

Dear all. I'm trying to cite three different documents, each one with
a different page to which I point. How can I put all of them in just
one citation? I'm using biblatex's verbose-trad1 style, so footnotes
are being used. Right now, I have three different footnotes and I
would like all of them on the same one separated by semicolons.

Thx for your help. Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

Re: Citing more than one paper

[Julio Rojas]

RTFM!!! Solution:
\footcites[\S 80]{Commission:2009a}[][p. 8]{FrenchConsRes2010}[][p.
4]{European-Commission:-Information-Society-and-Media-Directorate-General:2010}

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all. I'm trying to cite three different documents, each one with
 a different page to which I point. How can I put all of them in just
 one citation? I'm using biblatex's verbose-trad1 style, so footnotes
 are being used. Right now, I have three different footnotes and I
 would like all of them on the same one separated by semicolons.

 Thx for your help. Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com

Citing more than one paper

[Julio Rojas]

Dear all. I'm trying to cite three different documents, each one with
a different page to which I point. How can I put all of them in just
one citation? I'm using biblatex's verbose-trad1 style, so footnotes
are being used. Right now, I have three different footnotes and I
would like all of them on the same one separated by semicolons.

Thx for your help. Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

Re: Citing more than one paper

[Julio Rojas]

RTFM!!! Solution:
\footcites[\S 80]{Commission:2009a}[][p. 8]{FrenchConsRes2010}[][p.
4]{European-Commission:-Information-Society-and-Media-Directorate-General:2010}

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all. I'm trying to cite three different documents, each one with
 a different page to which I point. How can I put all of them in just
 one citation? I'm using biblatex's verbose-trad1 style, so footnotes
 are being used. Right now, I have three different footnotes and I
 would like all of them on the same one separated by semicolons.

 Thx for your help. Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com

Citing more than one paper

[Julio Rojas]

Dear all. I'm trying to cite three different documents, each one with
a different page to which I point. How can I put all of them in just
one citation? I'm using biblatex's verbose-trad1 style, so footnotes
are being used. Right now, I have three different footnotes and I
would like all of them on the same one separated by semicolons.

Thx for your help. Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

Re: Citing more than one paper

[Julio Rojas]

RTFM!!! Solution:
\footcites[\S 80]{Commission:2009a}[][p. 8]{FrenchConsRes2010}[][p.
4]{European-Commission:-Information-Society-and-Media-Directorate-General:2010}

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Julio Rojas  wrote:
> Dear all. I'm trying to cite three different documents, each one with
> a different page to which I point. How can I put all of them in just
> one citation? I'm using biblatex's verbose-trad1 style, so footnotes
> are being used. Right now, I have three different footnotes and I
> would like all of them on the same one separated by semicolons.
>
> Thx for your help. Regards.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>

A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but 
I am struggling with web page citations.


I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which 
has a *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.


I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file 
updated with Jabref.


Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I 
also have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a 
bib file that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference 
option and the misc type that it imports as doesn't have a field for 
last accessed


As this has now a days got to be a common reference type, can anyone 
give me some pointers about how to deal with web page 
references/citations with a lyx/jabref/bibtex combination.


Googlind hasn't helped me any, but if someone has a link to an 
appropriate web site, that would be great.


Many thanks,

Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

010/9/2 Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk:
 I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but I am
 struggling with web page citations.

 I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which has a
 *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.

 I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file
 updated with Jabref.

 Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I also
 have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a bib file
 that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference option and
 the misc type that it imports as doesn't have a field for last accessed


I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as misc
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the lastchecked field, I believe since it's not standard
bibtex.

The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/
describes a hack to make Zotero export the date in the howpublished
field, I don't know of any better solution :-/

best regards,
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Kevin,


I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as misc
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the lastchecked field, I believe since it's not standard
bibtex.


Ah, I never tried using the Zotero to bibtex direct route, as I couldn't 
get Jabref to import the Zotero exported bibtex file.


I might rethink this


The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/


Thanks, I will have a look at this.

Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Julio Rojas]

The best solution is Biblatex. For example:

@ONLINE{Wikipedia2009,
  author = {{Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia}},
  title = {Epistemology},
  year = {2009},
  url = {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology},
  organization = {Wikimedia Foundation},
  owner = {jcredberry},
  timestamp = {2009.08.11},
  urldate = {2009-08-11}
}


Will be perfectly rendered by Biblatex as:
Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia (2009). Epistemology. Wikimedia
Foundation. URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology (visited on
08-11-2009).

Best regards.


-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
kun...@student.uib.no wrote:
 010/9/2 Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk:
 I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but I am
 struggling with web page citations.

 I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which has a
 *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.

 I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file
 updated with Jabref.

 Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I also
 have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a bib file
 that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference option and
 the misc type that it imports as doesn't have a field for last accessed


 I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as misc
 in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
 export the lastchecked field, I believe since it's not standard
 bibtex.

 The user shil88 in
 http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/
 describes a hack to make Zotero export the date in the howpublished
 field, I don't know of any better solution :-/

 best regards,
 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Paul Rubin]

If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.

/Paul

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Julio


The best solution is Biblatex. For example:


Thanks for this, I was looking for something like this, but couldn't 
find it.


Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Paul,


If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.


Thanks, a lot of helpful info here.

Graham

A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but 
I am struggling with web page citations.


I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which 
has a *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.


I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file 
updated with Jabref.


Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I 
also have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a 
bib file that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference 
option and the misc type that it imports as doesn't have a field for 
last accessed


As this has now a days got to be a common reference type, can anyone 
give me some pointers about how to deal with web page 
references/citations with a lyx/jabref/bibtex combination.


Googlind hasn't helped me any, but if someone has a link to an 
appropriate web site, that would be great.


Many thanks,

Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

010/9/2 Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk:
 I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but I am
 struggling with web page citations.

 I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which has a
 *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.

 I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file
 updated with Jabref.

 Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I also
 have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a bib file
 that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference option and
 the misc type that it imports as doesn't have a field for last accessed


I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as misc
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the lastchecked field, I believe since it's not standard
bibtex.

The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/
describes a hack to make Zotero export the date in the howpublished
field, I don't know of any better solution :-/

best regards,
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Kevin,


I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as misc
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the lastchecked field, I believe since it's not standard
bibtex.


Ah, I never tried using the Zotero to bibtex direct route, as I couldn't 
get Jabref to import the Zotero exported bibtex file.


I might rethink this


The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/


Thanks, I will have a look at this.

Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Julio Rojas]

The best solution is Biblatex. For example:

@ONLINE{Wikipedia2009,
  author = {{Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia}},
  title = {Epistemology},
  year = {2009},
  url = {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology},
  organization = {Wikimedia Foundation},
  owner = {jcredberry},
  timestamp = {2009.08.11},
  urldate = {2009-08-11}
}


Will be perfectly rendered by Biblatex as:
Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia (2009). Epistemology. Wikimedia
Foundation. URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology (visited on
08-11-2009).

Best regards.


-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
kun...@student.uib.no wrote:
 010/9/2 Graham Smith graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk:
 I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but I am
 struggling with web page citations.

 I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which has a
 *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.

 I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file
 updated with Jabref.

 Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I also
 have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a bib file
 that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference option and
 the misc type that it imports as doesn't have a field for last accessed


 I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as misc
 in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
 export the lastchecked field, I believe since it's not standard
 bibtex.

 The user shil88 in
 http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/
 describes a hack to make Zotero export the date in the howpublished
 field, I don't know of any better solution :-/

 best regards,
 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Paul Rubin]

If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.

/Paul

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Julio


The best solution is Biblatex. For example:


Thanks for this, I was looking for something like this, but couldn't 
find it.


Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Paul,


If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.


Thanks, a lot of helpful info here.

Graham

A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but 
I am struggling with web page citations.


I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which 
has a *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.


I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file 
updated with Jabref.


Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I 
also have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a 
bib file that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference 
option and the "misc" type that it imports as doesn't have a field for 
"last accessed"


As this has now a days got to be a common reference type, can anyone 
give me some pointers about how to deal with web page 
references/citations with a lyx/jabref/bibtex combination.


Googlind hasn't helped me any, but if someone has a link to an 
appropriate web site, that would be great.


Many thanks,

Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

010/9/2 Graham Smith :
> I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but I am
> struggling with web page citations.
>
> I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which has a
> *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.
>
> I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file
> updated with Jabref.
>
> Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I also
> have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a bib file
> that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference option and
> the "misc" type that it imports as doesn't have a field for "last accessed"
>

I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as "misc"
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the "lastchecked" field, I believe since it's not "standard"
bibtex.

The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/
describes a hack to make Zotero export the date in the "howpublished"
field, I don't know of any better solution :-/

best regards,
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Kevin,


I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as "misc"
in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
export the "lastchecked" field, I believe since it's not "standard"
bibtex.


Ah, I never tried using the Zotero to bibtex direct route, as I couldn't 
get Jabref to import the Zotero exported bibtex file.


I might rethink this


The user shil88 in
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/


Thanks, I will have a look at this.

Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Julio Rojas]

The best solution is Biblatex. For example:

@ONLINE{Wikipedia2009,
  author = {{Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia}},
  title = {Epistemology},
  year = {2009},
  url = {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology},
  organization = {Wikimedia Foundation},
  owner = {jcredberry},
  timestamp = {2009.08.11},
  urldate = {2009-08-11}
}


Will be perfectly rendered by Biblatex as:
Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia (2009). Epistemology. Wikimedia
Foundation. URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology (visited on
08-11-2009).

Best regards.


-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
 wrote:
> 010/9/2 Graham Smith :
>> I've got Lyx working with citations largely as I expect it to work, but I am
>> struggling with web page citations.
>>
>> I am collecting references in Zotero, then importing into Jabref which has a
>> *.bib file in the same directory I am usng for my Lyx document.
>>
>> I am then inserting the citations using Lyx, but keeping the *.bib file
>> updated with Jabref.
>>
>> Web page reference exported from Zotero won't import into Jabref. BUT I also
>> have Mendeley which syncs with the Zotero database and exports as a bib file
>> that Jabref will read. However, there is no web page reference option and
>> the "misc" type that it imports as doesn't have a field for "last accessed"
>>
>
> I haven't tried JabRef, but Zotero does export my web pages as "misc"
> in a format that LyX understands anyway. However, Zotero doesn't
> export the "lastchecked" field, I believe since it's not "standard"
> bibtex.
>
> The user shil88 in
> http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/1302/export-bibtex-webpage-specific-fieldsinformation-missing/
> describes a hack to make Zotero export the date in the "howpublished"
> field, I don't know of any better solution :-/
>
> best regards,
> Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
>

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Paul Rubin]

If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.

/Paul

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Julio


The best solution is Biblatex. For example:


Thanks for this, I was looking for something like this, but couldn't 
find it.


Graham

Re: A bit OT - Jabref and citing web pages in lyx

[Graham Smith]

Paul,


If you're disinclined to move to Biblatex (per Julio's suggestion), you might
try one of the workarounds at
http://win.ua.ac.be/~nschloe/content/bibtex-how-cite-website.


Thanks, a lot of helpful info here.

Graham

Citing LyX

[Ernesto Jardim]

Hi,

I want to include a citation to LyX on a paper but I don't know what's 
the correct bibliographic reference for LyX. In R (r-project.org) one 
runs citation() and gets:


To cite R in publications use:

R Development Core Team (2008). R: A language and environment for
statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing,
Vienna, Austria. ISBN 3-900051-07-0, URL http://www.R-project.org.

A BibTeX entry for LaTeX users is

@Manual{,
title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing},
author = {{R Development Core Team}},
organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing},
address = {Vienna, Austria},
year = {2008},
note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-07-0},
url = {http://www.R-project.org},
}

We have invested a lot of time and effort in creating R, please cite it
when using it for data analysis. See also ‘citation(pkgname)’ for
citing R packages.

Is there something similar for LyX ? I mean the reference ;-)

Best

EJ

Re: Citing LyX

[Paul A. Rubin]

Ernesto Jardim wrote:

Hi,

I want to include a citation to LyX on a paper but I don't know what's 
the correct bibliographic reference for LyX. In R (r-project.org) one 
runs citation() and gets:


To cite R in publications use:

R Development Core Team (2008). R: A language and environment for
statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing,
Vienna, Austria. ISBN 3-900051-07-0, URL http://www.R-project.org.

A BibTeX entry for LaTeX users is

@Manual{,
title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing},
author = {{R Development Core Team}},
organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing},
address = {Vienna, Austria},
year = {2008},
note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-07-0},
url = {http://www.R-project.org},
}

We have invested a lot of time and effort in creating R, please cite it
when using it for data analysis. See also ‘citation(pkgname)’ for
citing R packages.

Is there something similar for LyX ? I mean the reference ;-)

Best

EJ




http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/CitingLyxWebSite

/Paul

Citing LyX

[Ernesto Jardim]

Hi,

I want to include a citation to LyX on a paper but I don't know what's 
the correct bibliographic reference for LyX. In R (r-project.org) one 
runs citation() and gets:


To cite R in publications use:

R Development Core Team (2008). R: A language and environment for
statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing,
Vienna, Austria. ISBN 3-900051-07-0, URL http://www.R-project.org.

A BibTeX entry for LaTeX users is

@Manual{,
title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing},
author = {{R Development Core Team}},
organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing},
address = {Vienna, Austria},
year = {2008},
note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-07-0},
url = {http://www.R-project.org},
}

We have invested a lot of time and effort in creating R, please cite it
when using it for data analysis. See also ‘citation(pkgname)’ for
citing R packages.

Is there something similar for LyX ? I mean the reference ;-)

Best

EJ

Re: Citing LyX

[Paul A. Rubin]

Ernesto Jardim wrote:

Hi,

I want to include a citation to LyX on a paper but I don't know what's 
the correct bibliographic reference for LyX. In R (r-project.org) one 
runs citation() and gets:


To cite R in publications use:

R Development Core Team (2008). R: A language and environment for
statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing,
Vienna, Austria. ISBN 3-900051-07-0, URL http://www.R-project.org.

A BibTeX entry for LaTeX users is

@Manual{,
title = {R: A Language and Environment for Statistical Computing},
author = {{R Development Core Team}},
organization = {R Foundation for Statistical Computing},
address = {Vienna, Austria},
year = {2008},
note = {{ISBN} 3-900051-07-0},
url = {http://www.R-project.org},
}

We have invested a lot of time and effort in creating R, please cite it
when using it for data analysis. See also ‘citation(pkgname)’ for
citing R packages.

Is there something similar for LyX ? I mean the reference ;-)

Best

EJ




http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/CitingLyxWebSite

/Paul