Re: Collaboration ( was: Re: lyx 2.3.7 running on a Mac Ventura 13.6.1)
Have a look at typst. el On 2024-01-11 13:26, Tobias Hilbricht wrote: [...] > I agree with you that the collaboration features are a big point in > favour of Overleaf. The strong desire by many LaTeX-users (and LyX- > users?) for those collaboration features are expressed by Emiliano > Heyns, the developer of BetterBibTeX for Zotero, in an interview: > > "What I’d love to see is an online (because who wants to have to > install stuff these days), real-time, multi-author editor, that > would have a neutered view for my WYSIWYG brethren, a markup view for > me (LaTeX or something else, as long as I get the stuff I care > about), a vim mode preferably but at least something that syncs to > offline files (don’t trust the cloud as the only place for your > precious articles). LyX would be halfway there if the file format > wasn’t so strange, and co-authoring (or even version management, > really) is a non-starter." [...] -- To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el' -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Collaboration ( was: Re: lyx 2.3.7 running on a Mac Ventura 13.6.1)
Le 11/01/2024 à 17:32, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : Emiliano's remark about version management, from 2017, seems out of date. I use git with LyX all the time. It was extremely helpful when I was making the final changes to a book recently. It allowed me to check and make sure that the only changes I'd made were the ones I thought I'd made. The real issue there, it seems to me, is that most such tools are line based, so changing a single character here and there can lead to the changes looking more significant than they are. But that's true with LaTeX, too, to some extent. It's a bigger problem with LyX, because the line breaks in the saved version of the file can be completely different from that point on in the paragraph. Note that, starting with 2.4, the .lyx files break text at punctuation, which should play better with git. NewInLyX24 says: * LyX now uses "semantic linefeeds" for text in LyX files. This allows to have better diffs for documents stored in version-control systems. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Collaboration ( was: Re: lyx 2.3.7 running on a Mac Ventura 13.6.1)
On 1/11/24 06:26, Tobias Hilbricht wrote: Am Donnerstag, dem 11.01.2024 um 09:03 + schrieb markhsalmon: it does have features that make it easier to use. The university made its choice I suspect because of the way multiple authors can collaborate I agree with you that the collaboration features are a big point in favour of Overleaf. The strong desire by many LaTeX-users (and LyX- users?) for those collaboration features are expressed by Emiliano Heyns, the developer of BetterBibTeX for Zotero, in an interview: "What I’d love to see is an online (because who wants to have to install stuff these days), real-time, multi-author editor, that would have a neutered view for my WYSIWYG brethren, a markup view for me (LaTeX or something else, as long as I get the stuff I care about), a vim mode preferably but at least something that syncs to offline files (don’t trust the cloud as the only place for your precious articles). LyX would be halfway there if the file format wasn’t so strange, and co-authoring (or even version management, really) is a non-starter." https://www.fiduswriter.org/2017/01/15/emilano-heyns/ I am a WYMIWG brother and like LyX a lot for hiding code from me as much as possible, but due to missing collaboration features I use it private only and would not suggest it at work, despite many advantages of LyX in features apart from collaboration. I have used LyX for co-authored articles and have not had any problem with it. I suppose that's because my co-author and I generally aren't working on the same part of the paper at the same time, so you don't get weird merge conflicts. Once the paper gets to a certain point, we use change tracking, which helps a lot. Emiliano's remark about version management, from 2017, seems out of date. I use git with LyX all the time. It was extremely helpful when I was making the final changes to a book recently. It allowed me to check and make sure that the only changes I'd made were the ones I thought I'd made. The real issue there, it seems to me, is that most such tools are line based, so changing a single character here and there can lead to the changes looking more significant than they are. But that's true with LaTeX, too, to some extent. It's a bigger problem with LyX, because the line breaks in the saved version of the file can be completely different from that point on in the paragraph. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Collaboration ( was: Re: lyx 2.3.7 running on a Mac Ventura 13.6.1)
Am Donnerstag, dem 11.01.2024 um 09:03 + schrieb markhsalmon: > it does have features that make it easier to use. The university made > its choice I suspect because of the way multiple authors can > collaborate I agree with you that the collaboration features are a big point in favour of Overleaf. The strong desire by many LaTeX-users (and LyX- users?) for those collaboration features are expressed by Emiliano Heyns, the developer of BetterBibTeX for Zotero, in an interview: "What I’d love to see is an online (because who wants to have to install stuff these days), real-time, multi-author editor, that would have a neutered view for my WYSIWYG brethren, a markup view for me (LaTeX or something else, as long as I get the stuff I care about), a vim mode preferably but at least something that syncs to offline files (don’t trust the cloud as the only place for your precious articles). LyX would be halfway there if the file format wasn’t so strange, and co-authoring (or even version management, really) is a non-starter." https://www.fiduswriter.org/2017/01/15/emilano-heyns/ I am a WYMIWG brother and like LyX a lot for hiding code from me as much as possible, but due to missing collaboration features I use it private only and would not suggest it at work, despite many advantages of LyX in features apart from collaboration. Tobias -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
