Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-23 Thread William Adams

On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:

One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the  
same XP machine as MikTeX?


Yes. I use the w32tex install in addition to MikTeX and it works fine  
(MikTeX was installed first, so comes before w32tex in the path  
statements, so MikTeX gets used in preference to w32tex, but xetex  
gets used from w32tex 'cause it's not present in MikTeX).


There're also instructions on ``How to use XeTeX for W32 on Web2C- 
based TeX distribution other than W32TeX'' --- I think those would  
work w/ MikTeX, but haven't investigated, since I already had w32tex  
set up.


William

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-23 Thread William Adams

On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:

One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the  
same XP machine as MikTeX?


Yes. I use the w32tex install in addition to MikTeX and it works fine  
(MikTeX was installed first, so comes before w32tex in the path  
statements, so MikTeX gets used in preference to w32tex, but xetex  
gets used from w32tex 'cause it's not present in MikTeX).


There're also instructions on ``How to use XeTeX for W32 on Web2C- 
based TeX distribution other than W32TeX'' --- I think those would  
work w/ MikTeX, but haven't investigated, since I already had w32tex  
set up.


William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-23 Thread William Adams

On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Nick and Anne Hopton wrote:

One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the  
same XP machine as MikTeX?


Yes. I use the w32tex install in addition to MikTeX and it works fine  
(MikTeX was installed first, so comes before w32tex in the path  
statements, so MikTeX gets used in preference to w32tex, but xetex  
gets used from w32tex 'cause it's not present in MikTeX).


There're also instructions on ``How to use XeTeX for W32 on Web2C- 
based TeX distribution other than W32TeX'' --- I think those would  
work w/ MikTeX, but haven't investigated, since I already had w32tex  
set up.


William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread William Adams

On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
sources. None work.


In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing list:

http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex.

William

--
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senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
  sources. None work.
 
 In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing
 list:
 
 http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
 
 Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex.
 
 William
 
  Thanks William


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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread Nick and Anne Hopton
One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the same XP 
machine as MikTeX?


I like the idea of being able to use ttf fonts without the grief of 
trying to install them in MikTeX.


Regards,
Nick.

--
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread William Adams

On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
sources. None work.


In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing list:

http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex.

William

--
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senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
  sources. None work.
 
 In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing
 list:
 
 http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
 
 Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex.
 
 William
 
  Thanks William


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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread Nick and Anne Hopton
One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the same XP 
machine as MikTeX?


I like the idea of being able to use ttf fonts without the grief of 
trying to install them in MikTeX.


Regards,
Nick.

--
Nick and Anne Hopton, Caversham, Reading, England.


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread William Adams

On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
sources. None work.


In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing list:

http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex.

William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> > I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
> > sources. None work.
> 
> In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing
> list:
> 
> http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
> 
> Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex.
> 
> William
> 
  Thanks William


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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-22 Thread Nick and Anne Hopton
One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the same XP 
machine as MikTeX?


I like the idea of being able to use ttf fonts without the grief of 
trying to install them in MikTeX.


Regards,
Nick.

--
Nick and Anne Hopton, Caversham, Reading, England.


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-21 Thread Marcelo Acuña
   How I can get xelatex?
   I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.
 
  It's not a package, but a binary format of the
 latex
  macros processed
  by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.
 
  http://scripts.sil.org/xetex
 
   This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have
 opensuse
  10.2) that no work at all.
 
 I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited.
 
 Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and
 compile that?
 
 Yes. I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
sources. None work.
 Regards
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-21 Thread Marcelo Acuña
   How I can get xelatex?
   I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.
 
  It's not a package, but a binary format of the
 latex
  macros processed
  by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.
 
  http://scripts.sil.org/xetex
 
   This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have
 opensuse
  10.2) that no work at all.
 
 I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited.
 
 Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and
 compile that?
 
 Yes. I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
sources. None work.
 Regards
 Marcelo



  

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Compartí todo lo que sabés sobre besos en 
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-21 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> >>>  How I can get xelatex?
> >>>  I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.
> >>
> >> It's not a package, but a binary format of the
> latex
> >> macros processed
> >> by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.
> >>
> >> http://scripts.sil.org/xetex
> >
> >  This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have
> opensuse
> > 10.2) that no work at all.
> 
> I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited.
> 
> Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and
> compile that?
> 
 Yes. I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with
sources. None work.
 Regards
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-20 Thread William Adams

On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.


It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex
macros processed
by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.

http://scripts.sil.org/xetex


 This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse
10.2) that no work at all.


I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited.

Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and compile that?



or



http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html


will allow you to download and install xetex which
will include xelatex.


 Thanks. I will try with last site.


I'm afraid that last is for Windows (didn't realise you were on Linux)

William


--
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senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-20 Thread William Adams

On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.


It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex
macros processed
by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.

http://scripts.sil.org/xetex


 This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse
10.2) that no work at all.


I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited.

Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and compile that?



or



http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html


will allow you to download and install xetex which
will include xelatex.


 Thanks. I will try with last site.


I'm afraid that last is for Windows (didn't realise you were on Linux)

William


--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-20 Thread William Adams

On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.


It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex
macros processed
by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.

http://scripts.sil.org/xetex


 This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse
10.2) that no work at all.


I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited.

Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and compile that?



or



http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html


will allow you to download and install xetex which
will include xelatex.


 Thanks. I will try with last site.


I'm afraid that last is for Windows (didn't realise you were on Linux)

William


--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-15 Thread William Adams

On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.


It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed  
by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.


http://scripts.sil.org/xetex

or

http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html

will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex.

William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-15 Thread Marcelo Acuña
   How I can get xelatex?
   I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.
 
 It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex
 macros processed  
 by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.
 
 http://scripts.sil.org/xetex

 This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse
10.2) that no work at all.

 
 or
 

http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html
 
 will allow you to download and install xetex which
 will include xelatex.
 
 William
 

 Thanks. I will try with last site.
 Marcelo



  Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos.  
 
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-15 Thread William Adams

On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.


It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed  
by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.


http://scripts.sil.org/xetex

or

http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html

will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex.

William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-15 Thread Marcelo Acuña
   How I can get xelatex?
   I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.
 
 It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex
 macros processed  
 by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.
 
 http://scripts.sil.org/xetex

 This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse
10.2) that no work at all.

 
 or
 

http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html
 
 will allow you to download and install xetex which
 will include xelatex.
 
 William
 

 Thanks. I will try with last site.
 Marcelo



  Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos.  
 
http://ar.yahoo.com/promos/mejorfotografo.html


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-15 Thread William Adams

On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.


It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed  
by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.


http://scripts.sil.org/xetex

or

http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html

will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex.

William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-15 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> >  How I can get xelatex?
> >  I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.
> 
> It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex
> macros processed  
> by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex.
> 
> http://scripts.sil.org/xetex

 This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse
10.2) that no work at all.

> 
> or
> 
>
http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html
> 
> will allow you to download and install xetex which
> will include xelatex.
> 
> William
> 

 Thanks. I will try with last site.
 Marcelo



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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Helge Hafting

Marcelo Acuña wrote:

Hello,
  I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to know:

1) if I can install other distros of Tex like XeTeX,
Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use this
with Lyx.

2) If I get a gain with this, like no package clash
(ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
  

I have now tested lyx-1.5 with xetex.  It works, with a small
amount of ERT and preamble commands.
Have a look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX
for instructions a sample document with font changes
and a wide range of unicode characters.
(symbols, latin, greek, russian, chinese)

Helge Hafting


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
 On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
 
   I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
  font handling which allows the usage of TrueType
 and
  OpenType fonts.
 
 It delivers too.
 
  Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
  very dificult for me. I don´t understand
 instrucction
  for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.
 
 It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around
 what needs to be  
 done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though
 as I alluded to in  
 my TUG2003 paper:
 

http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf
 
 There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in
 TUGboat if  
 memory serves.
 
   XeTeX work with Lyx?
 
 W/ xelatex, yes.
 
 You do need to be careful of which packages are used
 (babel in  
 particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex
 is a drop-in  
 replacement for tex, and xelatex is a
 straight-forward usage of LaTeX.
 
 Here's a page w/ specific instructions:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX
 
 (which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if
 I understand the  
 new features of LyX v1.5)
 
 William

 Thanks, I will search for xelatex.
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  Hello,
I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to
 know:
 
  1) if I can install other distros of Tex like
 XeTeX,
  Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use
 this
  with Lyx.
 
  2) If I get a gain with this, like no package
 clash
  (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.

 I have now tested lyx-1.5 with xetex.  It works,
 with a small
 amount of ERT and preamble commands.
 Have a look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX
 for instructions a sample document with font changes
 and a wide range of unicode characters.
 (symbols, latin, greek, russian, chinese)
 
 Helge Hafting
 
 Thanks. I will try to install it.
 Marcelo


  

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Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos.   
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
 
   XeTeX work with Lyx?
 
 W/ xelatex, yes.
 

 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.

 Marcelo


  

¡Sé un mejor fotógrafo!
Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos.   
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Helge Hafting

Marcelo Acuña wrote:

Hello,
  I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to know:

1) if I can install other distros of Tex like XeTeX,
Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use this
with Lyx.

2) If I get a gain with this, like no package clash
(ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
  

I have now tested lyx-1.5 with xetex.  It works, with a small
amount of ERT and preamble commands.
Have a look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX
for instructions a sample document with font changes
and a wide range of unicode characters.
(symbols, latin, greek, russian, chinese)

Helge Hafting


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
 On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
 
   I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
  font handling which allows the usage of TrueType
 and
  OpenType fonts.
 
 It delivers too.
 
  Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
  very dificult for me. I don´t understand
 instrucction
  for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.
 
 It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around
 what needs to be  
 done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though
 as I alluded to in  
 my TUG2003 paper:
 

http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf
 
 There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in
 TUGboat if  
 memory serves.
 
   XeTeX work with Lyx?
 
 W/ xelatex, yes.
 
 You do need to be careful of which packages are used
 (babel in  
 particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex
 is a drop-in  
 replacement for tex, and xelatex is a
 straight-forward usage of LaTeX.
 
 Here's a page w/ specific instructions:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX
 
 (which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if
 I understand the  
 new features of LyX v1.5)
 
 William

 Thanks, I will search for xelatex.
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  Hello,
I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to
 know:
 
  1) if I can install other distros of Tex like
 XeTeX,
  Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use
 this
  with Lyx.
 
  2) If I get a gain with this, like no package
 clash
  (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.

 I have now tested lyx-1.5 with xetex.  It works,
 with a small
 amount of ERT and preamble commands.
 Have a look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX
 for instructions a sample document with font changes
 and a wide range of unicode characters.
 (symbols, latin, greek, russian, chinese)
 
 Helge Hafting
 
 Thanks. I will try to install it.
 Marcelo


  

¡Sé un mejor fotógrafo!
Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos.   
http://ar.yahoo.com/promos/mejorfotografo.html


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
 
   XeTeX work with Lyx?
 
 W/ xelatex, yes.
 

 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.

 Marcelo


  

¡Sé un mejor fotógrafo!
Perfeccioná tu técnica y encontrá las mejores fotos.   
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Helge Hafting

Marcelo Acuña wrote:

Hello,
  I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to know:

1) if I can install other distros of Tex like XeTeX,
Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use this
with Lyx.

2) If I get a gain with this, like no package clash
(ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
  

I have now tested lyx-1.5 with xetex.  It works, with a small
amount of ERT and preamble commands.
Have a look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX
for instructions a sample document with font changes
and a wide range of unicode characters.
(symbols, latin, greek, russian, chinese)

Helge Hafting


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
> 
> >  I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
> > "font handling which allows the usage of TrueType
> and
> > OpenType fonts".
> 
> It delivers too.
> 
> > Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
> > very dificult for me. I don´t understand
> instrucction
> > for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.
> 
> It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around
> what needs to be  
> done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though
> as I alluded to in  
> my TUG2003 paper:
> 
>
http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf
> 
> There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in
> TUGboat if  
> memory serves.
> 
> >  XeTeX work with Lyx?
> 
> W/ xelatex, yes.
> 
> You do need to be careful of which packages are used
> (babel in  
> particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex
> is a drop-in  
> replacement for tex, and xelatex is a
> straight-forward usage of LaTeX.
> 
> Here's a page w/ specific instructions:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX
> 
> (which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if
> I understand the  
> new features of LyX v1.5)
> 
> William

 Thanks, I will search for xelatex.
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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> > Hello,
> >   I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to
> know:
> >
> > 1) if I can install other distros of Tex like
> XeTeX,
> > Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use
> this
> > with Lyx.
> >
> > 2) If I get a gain with this, like no package
> clash
> > (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
> >   
> I have now tested lyx-1.5 with xetex.  It works,
> with a small
> amount of ERT and preamble commands.
> Have a look at http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX
> for instructions a sample document with font changes
> and a wide range of unicode characters.
> (symbols, latin, greek, russian, chinese)
> 
> Helge Hafting
> 
 Thanks. I will try to install it.
 Marcelo


  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-14 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> 
> >  XeTeX work with Lyx?
> 
> W/ xelatex, yes.
> 

 How I can get xelatex?
 I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN.

 Marcelo


  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-13 Thread William Adams

On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and
OpenType fonts.


It delivers too.


Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction
for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.


It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around what needs to be  
done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though as I alluded to in  
my TUG2003 paper:


http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf

There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in TUGboat if  
memory serves.



 XeTeX work with Lyx?


W/ xelatex, yes.

You do need to be careful of which packages are used (babel in  
particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex is a drop-in  
replacement for tex, and xelatex is a straight-forward usage of LaTeX.


Here's a page w/ specific instructions:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX

(which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if I understand the  
new features of LyX v1.5)


William

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-13 Thread William Adams

On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and
OpenType fonts.


It delivers too.


Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction
for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.


It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around what needs to be  
done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though as I alluded to in  
my TUG2003 paper:


http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf

There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in TUGboat if  
memory serves.



 XeTeX work with Lyx?


W/ xelatex, yes.

You do need to be careful of which packages are used (babel in  
particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex is a drop-in  
replacement for tex, and xelatex is a straight-forward usage of LaTeX.


Here's a page w/ specific instructions:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX

(which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if I understand the  
new features of LyX v1.5)


William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-13 Thread William Adams

On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote:


 I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
"font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and
OpenType fonts".


It delivers too.


Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction
for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.


It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around what needs to be  
done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though as I alluded to in  
my TUG2003 paper:


http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf

There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in TUGboat if  
memory serves.



 XeTeX work with Lyx?


W/ xelatex, yes.

You do need to be careful of which packages are used (babel in  
particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex is a drop-in  
replacement for tex, and xelatex is a straight-forward usage of LaTeX.


Here's a page w/ specific instructions:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX

(which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if I understand the  
new features of LyX v1.5)


William

--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications




Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-12 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  Hello,
I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to
 know:
  
  1) if I can install other distros of Tex like
 XeTeX,
  Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use
 this
  with Lyx.
  
  2) If I get a gain with this, like no package
 clash
  (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
  
   Regards
   Marcelo
  
 
 Hi!
 
 I'm certainly no expert on this, but I'll try to
 answer (and I'd be 
 happy to hear better explanations from people who
 know more):
 
 As far as I understand, there are a few different
 levels: there's the 
 tex distribution (tetex, texlive, ...); there are
 different sets of 
 macros built around tex (latex, context); and
 finally, there are 
 different tex engines, which provide extensions to
 official tex 
 (etex, xetex). These different engines are often
 also aware of the macro 
 packages such as latex (elatex, xelatex).
 Specifically, xetex is meant 
 to extend tex with true Unicode support, and also
 provides font handling 
 which allows the usage of TrueType and OpenType
 fonts.
 
 The various distributions provide different
 combinations of engines and 
 macro sets. For example, texlive provides both latex
 (which appears to 
 actually be elatex?) and xelatex (and maybe more).
 
 LyX works with LaTeX. I have used lyx with tetex in
 the past, and 
 currently am using it with texlive, and both worked
 without any 
 problems. But in both cases, it's the *latex* that
 I've used with LyX

 I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and
OpenType fonts. Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction
for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.
 XeTeX work with Lyx?
 Thanks
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-12 Thread Marcelo Acuña
  Hello,
I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to
 know:
  
  1) if I can install other distros of Tex like
 XeTeX,
  Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use
 this
  with Lyx.
  
  2) If I get a gain with this, like no package
 clash
  (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
  
   Regards
   Marcelo
  
 
 Hi!
 
 I'm certainly no expert on this, but I'll try to
 answer (and I'd be 
 happy to hear better explanations from people who
 know more):
 
 As far as I understand, there are a few different
 levels: there's the 
 tex distribution (tetex, texlive, ...); there are
 different sets of 
 macros built around tex (latex, context); and
 finally, there are 
 different tex engines, which provide extensions to
 official tex 
 (etex, xetex). These different engines are often
 also aware of the macro 
 packages such as latex (elatex, xelatex).
 Specifically, xetex is meant 
 to extend tex with true Unicode support, and also
 provides font handling 
 which allows the usage of TrueType and OpenType
 fonts.
 
 The various distributions provide different
 combinations of engines and 
 macro sets. For example, texlive provides both latex
 (which appears to 
 actually be elatex?) and xelatex (and maybe more).
 
 LyX works with LaTeX. I have used lyx with tetex in
 the past, and 
 currently am using it with texlive, and both worked
 without any 
 problems. But in both cases, it's the *latex* that
 I've used with LyX

 I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and
OpenType fonts. Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction
for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.
 XeTeX work with Lyx?
 Thanks
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-12 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> > Hello,
> >   I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to
> know:
> > 
> > 1) if I can install other distros of Tex like
> XeTeX,
> > Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use
> this
> > with Lyx.
> > 
> > 2) If I get a gain with this, like no package
> clash
> > (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
> > 
> >  Regards
> >  Marcelo
> > 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm certainly no expert on this, but I'll try to
> answer (and I'd be 
> happy to hear better explanations from people who
> know more):
> 
> As far as I understand, there are a few different
> levels: there's the 
> tex "distribution" (tetex, texlive, ...); there are
> different sets of 
> macros built around tex (latex, context); and
> finally, there are 
> different tex "engines", which provide extensions to
> "official" tex 
> (etex, xetex). These different engines are often
> also aware of the macro 
> packages such as latex (elatex, xelatex).
> Specifically, xetex is meant 
> to extend tex with true Unicode support, and also
> provides font handling 
> which allows the usage of TrueType and OpenType
> fonts.
> 
> The various distributions provide different
> combinations of engines and 
> macro sets. For example, texlive provides both latex
> (which appears to 
> actually be elatex?) and xelatex (and maybe more).
> 
> LyX works with LaTeX. I have used lyx with tetex in
> the past, and 
> currently am using it with texlive, and both worked
> without any 
> problems. But in both cases, it's the *latex* that
> I've used with LyX

 I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy
"font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and
OpenType fonts". Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is
very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction
for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell.
 XeTeX work with Lyx?
 Thanks
 Marcelo



  

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Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-11 Thread Helge Hafting
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:07:08PM -0300, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
 Hello,
   I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to know:
 
 1) if I can install other distros of Tex like XeTeX,
 Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use this
 with Lyx.
 
 2) If I get a gain with this, like no package clash
 (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
 
I think you can use anything that provides some
variant of _latex_.
Tex Live is fine - I have been using that for some time.

LyX will not work with ConTeXt though.  This because ConTeXt is
not simply a different variety of LaTeX.
Both LaTeX and ConTeXt are extensions of TeX, but
they are very different extensions.

I don't know about xetex.  Whatever you use, it must understand
the latex commands LyX generates.  ConTeXt does not.
Anything that claims to support LaTeX (possibly with
some interesting extensions) ought to work.

Helge Hafting


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-11 Thread Helge Hafting
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:07:08PM -0300, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
 Hello,
   I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to know:
 
 1) if I can install other distros of Tex like XeTeX,
 Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use this
 with Lyx.
 
 2) If I get a gain with this, like no package clash
 (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
 
I think you can use anything that provides some
variant of _latex_.
Tex Live is fine - I have been using that for some time.

LyX will not work with ConTeXt though.  This because ConTeXt is
not simply a different variety of LaTeX.
Both LaTeX and ConTeXt are extensions of TeX, but
they are very different extensions.

I don't know about xetex.  Whatever you use, it must understand
the latex commands LyX generates.  ConTeXt does not.
Anything that claims to support LaTeX (possibly with
some interesting extensions) ought to work.

Helge Hafting


Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others

2007-08-11 Thread Helge Hafting
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 07:07:08PM -0300, Marcelo Acuña wrote:
> Hello,
>   I have linux (opensuse 10.2) and I want to know:
> 
> 1) if I can install other distros of Tex like XeTeX,
> Tex Live, ConTeXt, etc., instead Latex and to use this
> with Lyx.
> 
> 2) If I get a gain with this, like no package clash
> (ConTeXt), add more easy font (XeTeX), etc.
> 
I think you can use anything that provides some
variant of _latex_.
Tex Live is fine - I have been using that for some time.

LyX will not work with ConTeXt though.  This because ConTeXt is
not simply a different variety of LaTeX.
Both LaTeX and ConTeXt are extensions of TeX, but
they are very different extensions.

I don't know about xetex.  Whatever you use, it must understand
the latex commands LyX generates.  ConTeXt does not.
Anything that claims to support LaTeX (possibly with
some interesting extensions) ought to work.

Helge Hafting