Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft math-delim { } Nusret That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard Nusret one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, Nusret instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on Nusret caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I Nusret change it to the following: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft math-delim { } Nusret everything works alright. Nusret Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? They mean do not look at those modifiers. So basically, anything that leads to a braceleft { character should be OK. I am surprised that you would have to use a bracketleft [. JMarc
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the Nusret math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but Nusret without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the Nusret reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: Nusret it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of Nusret math.bind. It is a typo indeed. I just fixed it. Thanks. JMarc
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Jean-Marc, After your remark I tried it again. Unfortunately, (whether it's surprising I don't know) but M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft doesn't work; but if you put bracketleft instead, it works. My system is Windows XP, not linux: can this be the source of the problem? I personally solved my problem by other means, though. Regards (and thanks for the meaning of ~ in the given context. it seems it's not used properly in math.bind file, or it may have to do something with windows, or maybe... I don't know :)) Regards, Nusret --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft math-delim { } Nusret That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard Nusret one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, Nusret instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on Nusret caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I Nusret change it to the following: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft math-delim { } Nusret everything works alright. Nusret Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? They mean do not look at those modifiers. So basically, anything that leads to a braceleft { character should be OK. I am surprised that you would have to use a bracketleft [. JMarc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode (sciword.bind overhaul is needed)
Jean-Marc, As you said you fixed the typo, I thought you may be maintaining the binding files. Excuse me if that's not the case. But if so, I had many problems with sciword.bind file. As an example, \bind C-S-bar math-delim | | \bind C-S-brokenbar math-delim | | \bind C-M-bar math-delim | | None of the above works on my system. I had to change bar's to backslash (without quotes). Similarly, \bind S-C-braceleft math-delim { } \bind S-C-braceright math-delim { } don't work, I needed bracketleft, etc. But interestingly (I've just noticed this one), if you replace C key with M key, you can use bar or braceleft, etc. OK with M, but not OK with C. Isn't this interesting? I thought this feedback may help the maintainer. Best regards, Nusret --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the Nusret math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but Nusret without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the Nusret reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: Nusret it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of Nusret math.bind. It is a typo indeed. I just fixed it. Thanks. JMarc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft math-delim { } Nusret That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard Nusret one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, Nusret instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on Nusret caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I Nusret change it to the following: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft math-delim { } Nusret everything works alright. Nusret Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? They mean do not look at those modifiers. So basically, anything that leads to a braceleft { character should be OK. I am surprised that you would have to use a bracketleft [. JMarc
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the Nusret math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but Nusret without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the Nusret reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: Nusret it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of Nusret math.bind. It is a typo indeed. I just fixed it. Thanks. JMarc
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Jean-Marc, After your remark I tried it again. Unfortunately, (whether it's surprising I don't know) but M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft doesn't work; but if you put bracketleft instead, it works. My system is Windows XP, not linux: can this be the source of the problem? I personally solved my problem by other means, though. Regards (and thanks for the meaning of ~ in the given context. it seems it's not used properly in math.bind file, or it may have to do something with windows, or maybe... I don't know :)) Regards, Nusret --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft math-delim { } Nusret That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard Nusret one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, Nusret instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on Nusret caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I Nusret change it to the following: Nusret \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft math-delim { } Nusret everything works alright. Nusret Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? They mean do not look at those modifiers. So basically, anything that leads to a braceleft { character should be OK. I am surprised that you would have to use a bracketleft [. JMarc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode (sciword.bind overhaul is needed)
Jean-Marc, As you said you fixed the typo, I thought you may be maintaining the binding files. Excuse me if that's not the case. But if so, I had many problems with sciword.bind file. As an example, \bind C-S-bar math-delim | | \bind C-S-brokenbar math-delim | | \bind C-M-bar math-delim | | None of the above works on my system. I had to change bar's to backslash (without quotes). Similarly, \bind S-C-braceleft math-delim { } \bind S-C-braceright math-delim { } don't work, I needed bracketleft, etc. But interestingly (I've just noticed this one), if you replace C key with M key, you can use bar or braceleft, etc. OK with M, but not OK with C. Isn't this interesting? I thought this feedback may help the maintainer. Best regards, Nusret --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nusret == Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nusret I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the Nusret math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but Nusret without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the Nusret reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: Nusret it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of Nusret math.bind. It is a typo indeed. I just fixed it. Thanks. JMarc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
> "Nusret" == Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nusret> \bind "M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft" "math-delim { }" Nusret> That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard Nusret> one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, Nusret> instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on Nusret> caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I Nusret> change it to the following: Nusret> \bind "M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft" "math-delim { }" Nusret> everything works alright. Nusret> Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? They mean "do not look at those modifiers". So basically, anything that leads to a braceleft "{" character should be OK. I am surprised that you would have to use a bracketleft "[". JMarc
Re: scalable braces in math mode
> "Nusret" == Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nusret> I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the Nusret> math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but Nusret> without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the Nusret> reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: Nusret> it inclued "maths.bind" file (which doesn't exist) instead of Nusret> "math.bind". It is a typo indeed. I just fixed it. Thanks. JMarc
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Jean-Marc, After your remark I tried it again. Unfortunately, (whether it's surprising I don't know) but M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft doesn't work; but if you put bracketleft instead, it works. My system is Windows XP, not linux: can this be the source of the problem? I personally solved my problem by other means, though. Regards (and thanks for the meaning of ~ in the given context. it seems it's not used properly in math.bind file, or it may have to do something with windows, or maybe... I don't know :)) Regards, Nusret --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Nusret" == Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Nusret> \bind "M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft" "math-delim { > }" > > Nusret> That's a problem at least if your keyboard > is a cheap standard > Nusret> one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an > AltGr key, > Nusret> instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is > like turning on > Nusret> caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to > obtain 'A' :). After I > Nusret> change it to the following: > > Nusret> \bind "M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft" "math-delim > { }" > > Nusret> everything works alright. > > Nusret> Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand > for though? > > They mean "do not look at those modifiers". So > basically, anything > that leads to a braceleft "{" character should be > OK. I am surprised that > you would have to use a bracketleft "[". > > JMarc > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode (sciword.bind overhaul is needed)
Jean-Marc, As you said you fixed the typo, I thought you may be maintaining the binding files. Excuse me if that's not the case. But if so, I had many problems with sciword.bind file. As an example, \bind "C-S-bar" "math-delim | |" \bind "C-S-brokenbar" "math-delim | |" \bind "C-M-bar" "math-delim | |" None of the above works on my system. I had to change "bar"'s to "backslash" (without quotes). Similarly, \bind "S-C-braceleft" "math-delim { }" \bind "S-C-braceright" "math-delim { }" don't work, I needed "bracketleft", etc. But interestingly (I've just noticed this one), if you replace C key with M key, you can use bar or braceleft, etc. OK with M, but not OK with C. Isn't this interesting? I thought this feedback may help the maintainer. Best regards, Nusret --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Nusret" == Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Nusret> I use sciword binding file. It supposedly > includes the > Nusret> math.bind file which contains the binding > you mentioned (but > Nusret> without AltGr). However it didn't work. I > tried to find the > Nusret> reason and noticed that there is a typo in > sciword.bind file: > Nusret> it inclued "maths.bind" file (which doesn't > exist) instead of > Nusret> "math.bind". > > It is a typo indeed. I just fixed it. > > Thanks. > > JMarc > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Nusret, Alternatively, you can insert the braces from menus with Insert -- Math -- Math panel Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Paul, I found out why your first suggestion didn't work on my computer even after I corrected the typo maths.bind in the sciword.bind file. I don't know whether this works on Linux systems or not. However, in the math.bind file I had the following: \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft math-delim { } That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I change it to the following: \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleftmath-delim { } everything works alright. The reason I try to avoid the math panel is that I like not to use mouse when I type as my documents consists mainly of mathematics, and math panel serves best if I use it only when I absolutely need it. Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? Thank you! Nusret --- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Nusret, Alternatively, you can insert the braces from menus with Insert -- Math -- Math panel Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret BALCI wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ Try \left\lbrace and \right\rbrace. \left(, \right), These work fine for me. etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. I agree that this comes as a bit of an ambush the first time. There is another visual cue, though. Look at the status line at the bottom of the window. When you are between \left or \right and the corresponding brace/bracket, you'll see 'Symbol: left' or 'Symbol: right' at the end of the status message. Once you get used to the fact that the \left or \right command is treated as separate from the bracketing symbol, and learn to keep an eye on the status line, it's not too bad. Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
I didn't notice the status bar change, indeed :). Anyways, thanks to initial problem I learned quite a bit about the key binding files and customized my favorite one to my liking (well, still it needs some work, but much better). Thanks for helpful comments. Regards, Nusret --- Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nusret BALCI wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ Try \left\lbrace and \right\rbrace. \left(, \right), These work fine for me. etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. I agree that this comes as a bit of an ambush the first time. There is another visual cue, though. Look at the status line at the bottom of the window. When you are between \left or \right and the corresponding brace/bracket, you'll see 'Symbol: left' or 'Symbol: right' at the end of the status message. Once you get used to the fact that the \left or \right command is treated as separate from the bracketing symbol, and learn to keep an eye on the status line, it's not too bad. Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Nusret, Alternatively, you can insert the braces from menus with Insert -- Math -- Math panel Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Paul, I found out why your first suggestion didn't work on my computer even after I corrected the typo maths.bind in the sciword.bind file. I don't know whether this works on Linux systems or not. However, in the math.bind file I had the following: \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft math-delim { } That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I change it to the following: \bind M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleftmath-delim { } everything works alright. The reason I try to avoid the math panel is that I like not to use mouse when I type as my documents consists mainly of mathematics, and math panel serves best if I use it only when I absolutely need it. Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? Thank you! Nusret --- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Nusret, Alternatively, you can insert the braces from menus with Insert -- Math -- Math panel Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret BALCI wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ Try \left\lbrace and \right\rbrace. \left(, \right), These work fine for me. etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. I agree that this comes as a bit of an ambush the first time. There is another visual cue, though. Look at the status line at the bottom of the window. When you are between \left or \right and the corresponding brace/bracket, you'll see 'Symbol: left' or 'Symbol: right' at the end of the status message. Once you get used to the fact that the \left or \right command is treated as separate from the bracketing symbol, and learn to keep an eye on the status line, it's not too bad. Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
I didn't notice the status bar change, indeed :). Anyways, thanks to initial problem I learned quite a bit about the key binding files and customized my favorite one to my liking (well, still it needs some work, but much better). Thanks for helpful comments. Regards, Nusret --- Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nusret BALCI wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ Try \left\lbrace and \right\rbrace. \left(, \right), These work fine for me. etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. I agree that this comes as a bit of an ambush the first time. There is another visual cue, though. Look at the status line at the bottom of the window. When you are between \left or \right and the corresponding brace/bracket, you'll see 'Symbol: left' or 'Symbol: right' at the end of the status message. Once you get used to the fact that the \left or \right command is treated as separate from the bracketing symbol, and learn to keep an eye on the status line, it's not too bad. Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered > just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. > It supposedly includes the math.bind file which > contains the binding you mentioned (but without > AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the > reason and noticed that there is a typo in > sciword.bind file: it inclued "maths.bind" file (which > doesn't exist) instead of "math.bind". Just in case > anyone runs into the same problem... Nusret, Alternatively, you can insert the braces from menus with Insert --> Math --> Math panel Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Paul, I found out why your first suggestion didn't work on my computer even after I corrected the typo "maths.bind" in the sciword.bind file. I don't know whether this works on Linux systems or not. However, in the math.bind file I had the following: \bind "M-m ~C-~M-~S-braceleft" "math-delim { }" That's a problem at least if your keyboard is a cheap standard one like mine (In fact, I don't even have an AltGr key, instead I use Ctrl+Alt when needed). It is like turning on caps lock, and then pressing Shift+A to obtain 'A' :). After I change it to the following: \bind "M-m ~C-~M-~S-bracketleft""math-delim { }" everything works alright. The reason I try to avoid the math panel is that I like not to use mouse when I type as my documents consists mainly of mathematics, and math panel serves best if I use it only when I absolutely need it. Do you have any idea what those ~'s stand for though? Thank you! Nusret --- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion > uncovered > > just another minor issue: I use sciword binding > file. > > It supposedly includes the math.bind file which > > contains the binding you mentioned (but without > > AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find > the > > reason and noticed that there is a typo in > > sciword.bind file: it inclued "maths.bind" file > (which > > doesn't exist) instead of "math.bind". Just in > case > > anyone runs into the same problem... > > Nusret, > > Alternatively, you can insert the braces from menus > with > > Insert --> Math --> Math panel > > Paul > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Nusret BALCI wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ Try \left\lbrace and \right\rbrace. \left(, \right), These work fine for me. etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. I agree that this comes as a bit of an ambush the first time. There is another visual cue, though. Look at the status line at the bottom of the window. When you are between \left or \right and the corresponding brace/bracket, you'll see 'Symbol: left' or 'Symbol: right' at the end of the status message. Once you get used to the fact that the \left or \right command is treated as separate from the bracketing symbol, and learn to keep an eye on the status line, it's not too bad. Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
I didn't notice the status bar change, indeed :). Anyways, thanks to initial problem I learned quite a bit about the key binding files and customized my favorite one to my liking (well, still it needs some work, but much better). Thanks for helpful comments. Regards, Nusret --- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nusret BALCI wrote: > > The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but > > it's a curious behavior. > > > > I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like > \left\{, > > \right\{ > > Try \left\lbrace and \right\rbrace. > > > \left(, \right), > > These work fine for me. > > > etc. from the user interface. > > Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see > what I > > mean. Interestingly, when you write first > > \left( \right), and then place the cursor > between > > the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between > > \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice > this, > > as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra > > space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex > > errors. > > I agree that this comes as a bit of an ambush the > first time. There is > another visual cue, though. Look at the status line > at the bottom of > the window. When you are between \left or \right > and the corresponding > brace/bracket, you'll see 'Symbol: left' or 'Symbol: > right' at the end > of the status message. Once you get used to the > fact that the \left or > \right command is treated as separate from the > bracketing symbol, and > learn to keep an eye on the status line, it's not > too bad. > > Paul > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. Nusret: use (inside math mode) alt+m and then alt gr+ { Good luck! Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Regards, Nusret --- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. Nusret: use (inside math mode) alt+m and then alt gr+ { Good luck! Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. Nusret: use (inside math mode) alt+m and then alt gr+ { Good luck! Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued maths.bind file (which doesn't exist) instead of math.bind. Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Regards, Nusret --- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but it's a curious behavior. I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, \right\{ \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface. Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I mean. Interestingly, when you write first \left( \right), and then place the cursor between the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex errors. Nusret: use (inside math mode) alt+m and then alt gr+ { Good luck! Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: scalable braces in math mode
On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but > it's a curious behavior. > > I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like \left\{, > \right\{ > \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface. > Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see what I > mean. Interestingly, when you write first > \left( \right), and then place the cursor between > the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between > \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice this, > as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra > space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex > errors. Nusret: use (inside math mode) alt+m and then alt gr+ { Good luck! Paul
Re: scalable braces in math mode
Thank you Paul. By the way, your suggestion uncovered just another minor issue: I use sciword binding file. It supposedly includes the math.bind file which contains the binding you mentioned (but without AltGr). However it didn't work. I tried to find the reason and noticed that there is a typo in sciword.bind file: it inclued "maths.bind" file (which doesn't exist) instead of "math.bind". Just in case anyone runs into the same problem... Regards, Nusret --- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/11/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The following doesn't harm in any serious way, but > > it's a curious behavior. > > > > I think Lyx doesn't handle well commands like > \left\{, > > \right\{ > > \left(, \right), etc. from the user interface. > > Especially try the ones for braces, you'll see > what I > > mean. Interestingly, when you write first > > \left( \right), and then place the cursor > between > > the parentheses, Lyx allows you to write between > > \right and ) for example. it's hard to notice > this, > > as the only visual hint is an invisible slim extra > > space before ) caused by \right. This causes latex > > errors. > > Nusret: use (inside math mode) > > alt+m and then alt gr+ { > > Good luck! > > Paul > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com