Re: What happened to "print"?

2016-08-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:24:34AM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:

> The release notes explain how to restore printing if you want to do
> that. You can even put it back on the menus and toolbars if you want,
> though that is another step.

If you do end up doing this David, if it's not too much trouble to make
a step-by-step wiki page it might be nice. I could imagine there will be
others in the future who want this feature.

Scott


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Re: What happened to "print"?

2016-07-18 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/17/2016 04:39 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
> On 07/17/2016 04:26 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
>> When I upgraded to lyx 2.2.0 (which was when debian testing went to
>> it) I lost the print menu.  I thought at first it was because my home
>> computer uses an old printer, but the same thing is true on my office
>> machine.  I could not find out anything about printing on the
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX22 site, or anywhere else I looked.
>>
>> Was there a decision to relegate printing (maybe just in linux) to
>> programs handling the output files?  I can print fine viewing the
>> output (using evince) and then printing from there, but lyx used to
>> support printing directly.  Or, perhaps, something happened with the
>> configuration, but I did not see anything about printing in the
>> menus, or any mention of it.
>>
>
> Never mind, I guess.  I see it now in the release notes.  But it does
> seem odd to dump it entirely.

The problem was that print support was becoming increasingly complicated
to maintain. We decided we just couldn't really do it properly, so
better not to pretend we can.

> The argument that most people would want to preview the output first
> is not the way I work with it.  I often have a viewing window open,
> but in the past have opted to print directly from lyx.  In fact, on an
> earlier computer lyx was one of the few programs that would work with
> my legacy printer.
>
> Oh well.  I will adapt, but I'd rather have the option.

The release notes explain how to restore printing if you want to do
that. You can even put it back on the menus and toolbars if you want,
though that is another step.

Richard



Re: What happened to "print"?

2016-07-17 Thread David L. Johnson

On 07/17/2016 04:26 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
When I upgraded to lyx 2.2.0 (which was when debian testing went to 
it) I lost the print menu.  I thought at first it was because my home 
computer uses an old printer, but the same thing is true on my office 
machine.  I could not find out anything about printing on the 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX22 site, or anywhere else I looked.


Was there a decision to relegate printing (maybe just in linux) to 
programs handling the output files?  I can print fine viewing the 
output (using evince) and then printing from there, but lyx used to 
support printing directly.  Or, perhaps, something happened with the 
configuration, but I did not see anything about printing in the menus, 
or any mention of it.


Never mind, I guess.  I see it now in the release notes.  But it does 
seem odd to dump it entirely.  The argument that most people would want 
to preview the output first is not the way I work with it.  I often have 
a viewing window open, but in the past have opted to print directly from 
lyx.  In fact, on an earlier computer lyx was one of the few programs 
that would work with my legacy printer.


Oh well.  I will adapt, but I'd rather have the option.

--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University



What happened to "print"?

2016-07-17 Thread David L. Johnson
When I upgraded to lyx 2.2.0 (which was when debian testing went to it) 
I lost the print menu.  I thought at first it was because my home 
computer uses an old printer, but the same thing is true on my office 
machine.  I could not find out anything about printing on the 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX22 site, or anywhere else I looked.


Was there a decision to relegate printing (maybe just in linux) to 
programs handling the output files?  I can print fine viewing the output 
(using evince) and then printing from there, but lyx used to support 
printing directly.  Or, perhaps, something happened with the 
configuration, but I did not see anything about printing in the menus, 
or any mention of it.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University