Re: Too many hyphens

2011-12-16 Thread Hady Ariwibowo Teguh
Hi there,
My document has wrong hypenation. So i decide to make no hypenation. 
I find a syntax in to make my document dont have hypenation.
Here is:
%no hypenation
\tolerance=1
\emergencystretch=\maxdimen
\hyphenpenalty=1
\hbadness=1
Hope it helps
Teguh Hady Ariwibowo
Electronics Engineering Polytechnic Institute of Surabaya (EEPIS)

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

From: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no
Subject: Re: Too many hyphens
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:09 PM

On 13. des. 2011 03:19,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  wrote:
 Dear all:
 
 My book text is showing up too many hyphens. Could you tell me if the
 text below is causing it, or what could the solution be?
 
 \usepackage{microtype}
 \makeatother
 \widowpenalty=1000
 \clubpenalty=1
 \raggedbottom
 \usepackage{titlesec}
 
microtype will usually lead to fewer hyphens, not more.
Things to consider:
* Make sure the document language is set correctly. That avoids wrong
  hyphenations.
* Consider wider margins, fewer columns or a more narrow font. That
  lessens the need for hyphenation

Also, you can instruct latex to use a higher penalty for hyphens. That way, 
latex will make less hyphens and instead put more space between
words. Use google to find out more about this.

Helge Hafting


Re: Too many hyphens

2011-12-16 Thread Hady Ariwibowo Teguh
Hi there,
My document has wrong hypenation. So i decide to make no hypenation. 
I find a syntax in to make my document dont have hypenation.
Here is:
%no hypenation
\tolerance=1
\emergencystretch=\maxdimen
\hyphenpenalty=1
\hbadness=1
Hope it helps
Teguh Hady Ariwibowo
Electronics Engineering Polytechnic Institute of Surabaya (EEPIS)

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

From: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no
Subject: Re: Too many hyphens
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:09 PM

On 13. des. 2011 03:19,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  wrote:
 Dear all:
 
 My book text is showing up too many hyphens. Could you tell me if the
 text below is causing it, or what could the solution be?
 
 \usepackage{microtype}
 \makeatother
 \widowpenalty=1000
 \clubpenalty=1
 \raggedbottom
 \usepackage{titlesec}
 
microtype will usually lead to fewer hyphens, not more.
Things to consider:
* Make sure the document language is set correctly. That avoids wrong
  hyphenations.
* Consider wider margins, fewer columns or a more narrow font. That
  lessens the need for hyphenation

Also, you can instruct latex to use a higher penalty for hyphens. That way, 
latex will make less hyphens and instead put more space between
words. Use google to find out more about this.

Helge Hafting


Re: Too many hyphens

2011-12-16 Thread Hady Ariwibowo Teguh
Hi there,
My document has wrong hypenation. So i decide to make no hypenation. 
I find a syntax in to make my document dont have hypenation.
Here is:
%no hypenation
\tolerance=1
\emergencystretch=\maxdimen
\hyphenpenalty=1
\hbadness=1
Hope it helps
Teguh Hady Ariwibowo
Electronics Engineering Polytechnic Institute of Surabaya (EEPIS)

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, Helge Hafting <helge.haft...@hist.no> wrote:

From: Helge Hafting <helge.haft...@hist.no>
Subject: Re: Too many hyphens
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:09 PM

On 13. des. 2011 03:19,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  wrote:
> Dear all:
> 
> My book text is showing up too many hyphens. Could you tell me if the
> text below is causing it, or what could the solution be?
> 
> \usepackage{microtype}
> \makeatother
> \widowpenalty=1000
> \clubpenalty=1
> \raggedbottom
> \usepackage{titlesec}
> 
microtype will usually lead to fewer hyphens, not more.
Things to consider:
* Make sure the document language is set correctly. That avoids wrong
  hyphenations.
* Consider wider margins, fewer columns or a more narrow font. That
  lessens the need for hyphenation

Also, you can instruct latex to use a higher penalty for hyphens. That way, 
latex will make less hyphens and instead put more space between
words. Use google to find out more about this.

Helge Hafting


Re: Too many hyphens

2011-12-13 Thread Helge Hafting
On 13. des. 2011 03:19,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  wrote:

Dear all:

My book text is showing up too many hyphens. Could you tell me if the
text below is causing it, or what could the solution be?

\usepackage{microtype}
\makeatother
\widowpenalty=1000
\clubpenalty=1
\raggedbottom
\usepackage{titlesec}


microtype will usually lead to fewer hyphens, not more.
Things to consider:
* Make sure the document language is set correctly. That avoids wrong
  hyphenations.
* Consider wider margins, fewer columns or a more narrow font. That
  lessens the need for hyphenation

Also, you can instruct latex to use a higher penalty for hyphens. That 
way, latex will make less hyphens and instead put more space between

words. Use google to find out more about this.

Helge Hafting


Re: Too many hyphens

2011-12-13 Thread Helge Hafting
On 13. des. 2011 03:19,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  wrote:

Dear all:

My book text is showing up too many hyphens. Could you tell me if the
text below is causing it, or what could the solution be?

\usepackage{microtype}
\makeatother
\widowpenalty=1000
\clubpenalty=1
\raggedbottom
\usepackage{titlesec}


microtype will usually lead to fewer hyphens, not more.
Things to consider:
* Make sure the document language is set correctly. That avoids wrong
  hyphenations.
* Consider wider margins, fewer columns or a more narrow font. That
  lessens the need for hyphenation

Also, you can instruct latex to use a higher penalty for hyphens. That 
way, latex will make less hyphens and instead put more space between

words. Use google to find out more about this.

Helge Hafting


Re: Too many hyphens

2011-12-13 Thread Helge Hafting
On 13. des. 2011 03:19,  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  wrote:

Dear all:

My book text is showing up too many hyphens. Could you tell me if the
text below is causing it, or what could the solution be?

\usepackage{microtype}
\makeatother
\widowpenalty=1000
\clubpenalty=1
\raggedbottom
\usepackage{titlesec}


microtype will usually lead to fewer hyphens, not more.
Things to consider:
* Make sure the document language is set correctly. That avoids wrong
  hyphenations.
* Consider wider margins, fewer columns or a more narrow font. That
  lessens the need for hyphenation

Also, you can instruct latex to use a higher penalty for hyphens. That 
way, latex will make less hyphens and instead put more space between

words. Use google to find out more about this.

Helge Hafting


Re: Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:04:14AM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 Maybe the following will code do that
   \catcode\-=\active
   \def-#1#2{\ifx-#1\ifx-#2\char'55\char'55\char'55%
   \else\char'55\char'55#2\fi%
   \else\nobreak\char'55\allowhyphens #1#2\fi}
 but it have some side effects (for example, you can put only one letter
  ^^^cannot

 after an hyphen [althugh I think I can solve this problem]),
 so you better not use it.



Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Janne Kivijarvi
Hi!

In Finnish, there are a lot of situations where one writes a hyphen
in the beginning of a word, after a word or between two parts of a
compound word even when the word fits completely on a single line.

As I undesrtand it, LaTeX doesn't by default hyphenate these word
any further than the hyphen I've typed (forced). I can override this
feature by adding a double quote () before the hyphen (in LyX, -
written in TeX mode instead of a regular hyphen).

My problem is that

1) Writing - in TeX mode takes time and effort when compared to
writing a single hyphen (which I'm of course rather used to doing), and

2) I never remember to do this and end up with overfull lines and less
severe imperfections that I may or may not notice before it's too late.


So, is there a way (adding something to the preamble, tweaking a knob
somewhere in LyX settings etc) to make LyX substitute all my hyphens
(but not minuses in math mode, and I guess also --'s and ---'s) as the
TeX mode string - upon conversion to .tex or just simply make LaTeX
hyphenate all words the way it ought to, without turning -'s into -'s?

Alternatively, is it be possible to redefine the action of the hyphen
key so that it would place the TeX mode string and come out of TeX mode
while typing normally (and how would I type a regular hyphen in that
case)?


Janne
-- 
Moving parts shall not be able to crush, cut or pierce parts of the body
of an OPERATOR likely to contact them, nor severely pinch the OPERATOR's
skin. (Compliance is checked by inspection.)- IEC 1010-1




Re: Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:12:11PM +0300, Janne Kivijarvi wrote:
 
 So, is there a way (adding something to the preamble, tweaking a knob
 somewhere in LyX settings etc) to make LyX substitute all my hyphens
 (but not minuses in math mode, and I guess also --'s and ---'s) as the
 TeX mode string - upon conversion to .tex or just simply make LaTeX
 hyphenate all words the way it ought to, without turning -'s into -'s?

Maybe the following will code do that
  \catcode\-=\active
  \def-#1#2{\ifx-#1\ifx-#2\char'55\char'55\char'55%
  \else\char'55\char'55#2\fi%
  \else\nobreak\char'55\allowhyphens #1#2\fi}
but it have some side effects (for example, you can put only one letter
after an hyphen [althugh I think I can solve this problem]),
so you better not use it.


You can redefine \- (which you insert in lyx by pressing ctrl+'-') to behave
like - by adding
  \addto\extrasfinnish{\def\-{\nobreak-\bblallowhyphens}}
to the preamble.



Re: Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:04:14AM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 Maybe the following will code do that
   \catcode\-=\active
   \def-#1#2{\ifx-#1\ifx-#2\char'55\char'55\char'55%
   \else\char'55\char'55#2\fi%
   \else\nobreak\char'55\allowhyphens #1#2\fi}
 but it have some side effects (for example, you can put only one letter
  ^^^cannot

 after an hyphen [althugh I think I can solve this problem]),
 so you better not use it.



Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Janne Kivijarvi
Hi!

In Finnish, there are a lot of situations where one writes a hyphen
in the beginning of a word, after a word or between two parts of a
compound word even when the word fits completely on a single line.

As I undesrtand it, LaTeX doesn't by default hyphenate these word
any further than the hyphen I've typed (forced). I can override this
feature by adding a double quote () before the hyphen (in LyX, -
written in TeX mode instead of a regular hyphen).

My problem is that

1) Writing - in TeX mode takes time and effort when compared to
writing a single hyphen (which I'm of course rather used to doing), and

2) I never remember to do this and end up with overfull lines and less
severe imperfections that I may or may not notice before it's too late.


So, is there a way (adding something to the preamble, tweaking a knob
somewhere in LyX settings etc) to make LyX substitute all my hyphens
(but not minuses in math mode, and I guess also --'s and ---'s) as the
TeX mode string - upon conversion to .tex or just simply make LaTeX
hyphenate all words the way it ought to, without turning -'s into -'s?

Alternatively, is it be possible to redefine the action of the hyphen
key so that it would place the TeX mode string and come out of TeX mode
while typing normally (and how would I type a regular hyphen in that
case)?


Janne
-- 
Moving parts shall not be able to crush, cut or pierce parts of the body
of an OPERATOR likely to contact them, nor severely pinch the OPERATOR's
skin. (Compliance is checked by inspection.)- IEC 1010-1




Re: Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:12:11PM +0300, Janne Kivijarvi wrote:
 
 So, is there a way (adding something to the preamble, tweaking a knob
 somewhere in LyX settings etc) to make LyX substitute all my hyphens
 (but not minuses in math mode, and I guess also --'s and ---'s) as the
 TeX mode string - upon conversion to .tex or just simply make LaTeX
 hyphenate all words the way it ought to, without turning -'s into -'s?

Maybe the following will code do that
  \catcode\-=\active
  \def-#1#2{\ifx-#1\ifx-#2\char'55\char'55\char'55%
  \else\char'55\char'55#2\fi%
  \else\nobreak\char'55\allowhyphens #1#2\fi}
but it have some side effects (for example, you can put only one letter
after an hyphen [althugh I think I can solve this problem]),
so you better not use it.


You can redefine \- (which you insert in lyx by pressing ctrl+'-') to behave
like - by adding
  \addto\extrasfinnish{\def\-{\nobreak-\bblallowhyphens}}
to the preamble.



Re: Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:04:14AM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> Maybe the following will code do that
>   \catcode\-=\active
>   \def-#1#2{\ifx-#1\ifx-#2\char'55\char'55\char'55%
>   \else\char'55\char'55#2\fi%
>   \else\nobreak\char'55\allowhyphens #1#2\fi}
> but it have some side effects (for example, you can put only one letter
  ^^^cannot

> after an hyphen [althugh I think I can solve this problem]),
> so you better not use it.



Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Janne Kivijarvi
Hi!

In Finnish, there are a lot of situations where one writes a hyphen
in the beginning of a word, after a word or between two parts of a
compound word even when the word fits completely on a single line.

As I undesrtand it, LaTeX doesn't by default hyphenate these word
any further than the hyphen I've typed (forced). I can override this
feature by adding a double quote (") before the hyphen (in LyX, "-
written in TeX mode instead of a regular hyphen).

My problem is that

1) Writing "- in TeX mode takes time and effort when compared to
writing a single hyphen (which I'm of course rather used to doing), and

2) I never remember to do this and end up with overfull lines and less
severe imperfections that I may or may not notice before it's too late.


So, is there a way (adding something to the preamble, tweaking a knob
somewhere in LyX settings etc) to make LyX substitute all my hyphens
(but not minuses in math mode, and I guess also --'s and ---'s) as the
TeX mode string "- upon conversion to .tex or just simply make LaTeX
hyphenate all words the way it ought to, without turning -'s into "-'s?

Alternatively, is it be possible to redefine the action of the hyphen
key so that it would place the TeX mode string and come out of TeX mode
while typing normally (and how would I type a regular hyphen in that
case)?


Janne
-- 
Moving parts shall not be able to crush, cut or pierce parts of the body
of an OPERATOR likely to contact them, nor severely pinch the OPERATOR's
skin. (Compliance is checked by inspection.)- IEC 1010-1




Re: Hyphenation of (Finnish) compound words with hyphens

2002-10-18 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:12:11PM +0300, Janne Kivijarvi wrote:
> 
> So, is there a way (adding something to the preamble, tweaking a knob
> somewhere in LyX settings etc) to make LyX substitute all my hyphens
> (but not minuses in math mode, and I guess also --'s and ---'s) as the
> TeX mode string "- upon conversion to .tex or just simply make LaTeX
> hyphenate all words the way it ought to, without turning -'s into "-'s?

Maybe the following will code do that
  \catcode\-=\active
  \def-#1#2{\ifx-#1\ifx-#2\char'55\char'55\char'55%
  \else\char'55\char'55#2\fi%
  \else\nobreak\char'55\allowhyphens #1#2\fi}
but it have some side effects (for example, you can put only one letter
after an hyphen [althugh I think I can solve this problem]),
so you better not use it.


You can redefine \- (which you insert in lyx by pressing ctrl+'-') to behave
like "- by adding
  \addto\extrasfinnish{\def\-{\nobreak-\bbl@allowhyphens}}
to the preamble.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-06 Thread Dirk Klugmann

Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 
 On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Dirk Klugmann wrote:
 
  I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
  paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
  switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
 My latex croaks on `\fuzzy', isn't it supposed to be `\fussy'?
 

You are right! Sorry, nice typo...

Dirk

-- 

**

 Dr. Dirk Klugmann
Institut fuer Troposphaerenforschung  Tel.: +49 341 235 - 2146
 Permoserstrasse 15FAX: +49 341 235 - 2139
 D-04318 LeipzigE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   WWW: http://www.tropos.de/

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Re: hyphens

1999-09-06 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:30:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know if this problem is now fixed, but I notice I get exactly
 the same error that susie gets. I too am using rh6, but have
 re-installed the tetex and have the latest RPM version. Don't know if
 that is a red herring.
 

Which version of tetex? You should be running the tetex-1.0. The tetex-0.4
that came with RH6 has hyphenation problems.

---Kayvan
-- 
Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan  | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.   | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89)
http://sylvan.com/~kayvan |   | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)



Re: hyphens

1999-09-06 Thread Dirk Klugmann

Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 
 On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Dirk Klugmann wrote:
 
  I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
  paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
  switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
 My latex croaks on `\fuzzy', isn't it supposed to be `\fussy'?
 

You are right! Sorry, nice typo...

Dirk

-- 

**

 Dr. Dirk Klugmann
Institut fuer Troposphaerenforschung  Tel.: +49 341 235 - 2146
 Permoserstrasse 15FAX: +49 341 235 - 2139
 D-04318 LeipzigE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   WWW: http://www.tropos.de/

**



Re: hyphens

1999-09-06 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:30:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know if this problem is now fixed, but I notice I get exactly
 the same error that susie gets. I too am using rh6, but have
 re-installed the tetex and have the latest RPM version. Don't know if
 that is a red herring.
 

Which version of tetex? You should be running the tetex-1.0. The tetex-0.4
that came with RH6 has hyphenation problems.

---Kayvan
-- 
Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan  | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.   | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89)
http://sylvan.com/~kayvan |   | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)



Re: hyphens

1999-09-06 Thread Dirk Klugmann

Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Dirk Klugmann wrote:
> >
> > I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
> > paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
> > switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> 
> My latex croaks on `\fuzzy', isn't it supposed to be `\fussy'?
> 

You are right! Sorry, nice typo...

Dirk

-- 

**

 Dr. Dirk Klugmann
Institut fuer Troposphaerenforschung  Tel.: +49 341 235 - 2146
 Permoserstrasse 15FAX: +49 341 235 - 2139
 D-04318 LeipzigE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   WWW: http://www.tropos.de/

**



Re: hyphens

1999-09-06 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:30:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't know if this problem is now fixed, but I notice I get exactly
> the same error that susie gets. I too am using rh6, but have
> re-installed the tetex and have the latest RPM version. Don't know if
> that is a red herring.
> 

Which version of tetex? You should be running the tetex-1.0. The tetex-0.4
that came with RH6 has hyphenation problems.

---Kayvan
-- 
Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan  | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.   | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89)
http://sylvan.com/~kayvan |   | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)



re: hyphens

1999-09-05 Thread susie


Bill Maybe you can post it to the list as a text (ascii) file.

sorry bill.
 here it is; the LyX file and the corresponding log file
 in ascii showing the faulty hyphenation.




#This file was created by susie Sat Sep  4 00:27:55 1999
#LyX 1.0 (C) 1995-1999 Matthias Ettrich and the LyX Team
\lyxformat 2.15
\textclass book
\language default
\inputencoding default
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Chapter

hyphen test
\layout Standard

the hyphen problem occurs with the following section heading.
 note this is A4 size paper, but other sizes didnt make much difference
 anyway..
 
\layout Section

Frequency Hopped Spread Spectrum Systems
\layout Standard

\the_end

---

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3) (format=latex 1999.9.4)  5 SEP 1999 22:5
3
**hyphentest.tex
(hyphentest.tex
LaTeX2e 1998/12/01
Babel v3.6k and hyphenation patterns for american, british, french, german, n
german, nohyphenation, loaded.

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/book.cls
Document Class: book 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo
File: bk10.clo 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
\c@part=\count79
\c@chapter=\count80
\c@section=\count81
\c@subsection=\count82
\c@subsubsection=\count83
\c@paragraph=\count84
\c@subparagraph=\count85
\c@figure=\count86
\c@table=\count87
\abovecaptionskip=\skip41
\belowcaptionskip=\skip42
\bibindent=\dimen102
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
Package: fontenc 1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX package
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def
File: t1enc.def 1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX file
LaTeX Font Info:Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 25.
))
No file hyphentest.aux.
\openout1 = `hyphentest.aux'.

LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
Chapter 1.

Overfull \hbox (0.32248pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 30--30
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tem-
 []

[1


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 3683 string characters out of 72415
 46453 words of memory out of 263001
 3435 multiletter control sequences out of 1+0
 8270 words of font info for 20 fonts, out of 20 for 1000
 23 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 23i,4n,23p,142b,170s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,3b,4000s

Output written on hyphentest.dvi (1 page, 680 bytes).



Re: hyphens

1999-09-05 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 10:59:22PM +0930, susie wrote:
 
 Bill Maybe you can post it to the list as a text (ascii) file.
 
 sorry bill.
  here it is; the LyX file and the corresponding log file
  in ascii showing the faulty hyphenation.
 

If you are running Redhat 6.0, you should upgrade to the latest RPM (3.0.2)
from ftp.rpm.org and then upgrade to the latest tetex-1.0 RPM. The tetex
RPM that shipped with RH 6.0 had hyphenation problems like you describe.

---Kayvan

Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan  | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.   | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89)
http://sylvan.com/~kayvan |   | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)



re: hyphens

1999-09-05 Thread susie


Bill Maybe you can post it to the list as a text (ascii) file.

sorry bill.
 here it is; the LyX file and the corresponding log file
 in ascii showing the faulty hyphenation.




#This file was created by susie Sat Sep  4 00:27:55 1999
#LyX 1.0 (C) 1995-1999 Matthias Ettrich and the LyX Team
\lyxformat 2.15
\textclass book
\language default
\inputencoding default
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Chapter

hyphen test
\layout Standard

the hyphen problem occurs with the following section heading.
 note this is A4 size paper, but other sizes didnt make much difference
 anyway..
 
\layout Section

Frequency Hopped Spread Spectrum Systems
\layout Standard

\the_end

---

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3) (format=latex 1999.9.4)  5 SEP 1999 22:5
3
**hyphentest.tex
(hyphentest.tex
LaTeX2e 1998/12/01
Babel v3.6k and hyphenation patterns for american, british, french, german, n
german, nohyphenation, loaded.

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/book.cls
Document Class: book 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo
File: bk10.clo 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
\c@part=\count79
\c@chapter=\count80
\c@section=\count81
\c@subsection=\count82
\c@subsubsection=\count83
\c@paragraph=\count84
\c@subparagraph=\count85
\c@figure=\count86
\c@table=\count87
\abovecaptionskip=\skip41
\belowcaptionskip=\skip42
\bibindent=\dimen102
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
Package: fontenc 1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX package
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def
File: t1enc.def 1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX file
LaTeX Font Info:Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 25.
))
No file hyphentest.aux.
\openout1 = `hyphentest.aux'.

LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
Chapter 1.

Overfull \hbox (0.32248pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 30--30
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tem-
 []

[1


] (hyphentest.aux)

 *File List*
book.cls1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
bk10.clo1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option)
 fontenc.sty
   t1enc.def1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX file
 ***

 ) 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 437 strings out of 10885
 3683 string characters out of 72415
 46453 words of memory out of 263001
 3435 multiletter control sequences out of 1+0
 8270 words of font info for 20 fonts, out of 20 for 1000
 23 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 23i,4n,23p,142b,170s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,3b,4000s

Output written on hyphentest.dvi (1 page, 680 bytes).



Re: hyphens

1999-09-05 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 10:59:22PM +0930, susie wrote:
 
 Bill Maybe you can post it to the list as a text (ascii) file.
 
 sorry bill.
  here it is; the LyX file and the corresponding log file
  in ascii showing the faulty hyphenation.
 

If you are running Redhat 6.0, you should upgrade to the latest RPM (3.0.2)
from ftp.rpm.org and then upgrade to the latest tetex-1.0 RPM. The tetex
RPM that shipped with RH 6.0 had hyphenation problems like you describe.

---Kayvan

Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan  | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.   | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89)
http://sylvan.com/~kayvan |   | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)



re: hyphens

1999-09-05 Thread susie


Bill> Maybe you can post it to the list as a text (ascii) file.

sorry bill.
 here it is; the LyX file and the corresponding log file
 in ascii showing the faulty hyphenation.




#This file was created by  Sat Sep  4 00:27:55 1999
#LyX 1.0 (C) 1995-1999 Matthias Ettrich and the LyX Team
\lyxformat 2.15
\textclass book
\language default
\inputencoding default
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 2
\tocdepth 2
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Chapter

hyphen test
\layout Standard

the hyphen problem occurs with the following section heading.
 note this is A4 size paper, but other sizes didnt make much difference
 anyway..
 
\layout Section

Frequency Hopped Spread Spectrum Systems
\layout Standard

\the_end

---

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3) (format=latex 1999.9.4)  5 SEP 1999 22:5
3
**hyphentest.tex
(hyphentest.tex
LaTeX2e <1998/12/01>
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, british, french, german, n
german, nohyphenation, loaded.

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/book.cls
Document Class: book 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo
File: bk10.clo 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
\c@part=\count79
\c@chapter=\count80
\c@section=\count81
\c@subsection=\count82
\c@subsubsection=\count83
\c@paragraph=\count84
\c@subparagraph=\count85
\c@figure=\count86
\c@table=\count87
\abovecaptionskip=\skip41
\belowcaptionskip=\skip42
\bibindent=\dimen102
) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
Package: fontenc 1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX package
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def
File: t1enc.def 1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX file
LaTeX Font Info:Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 25.
))
No file hyphentest.aux.
\openout1 = `hyphentest.aux'.

LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 21.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 21.
Chapter 1.

Overfull \hbox (0.32248pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 30--30
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tem-
 []

[1


] (hyphentest.aux)

 *File List*
book.cls1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
bk10.clo1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option)
 fontenc.sty
   t1enc.def1999/02/24 v1.9t Standard LaTeX file
 ***

 ) 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 437 strings out of 10885
 3683 string characters out of 72415
 46453 words of memory out of 263001
 3435 multiletter control sequences out of 1+0
 8270 words of font info for 20 fonts, out of 20 for 1000
 23 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 23i,4n,23p,142b,170s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,3b,4000s

Output written on hyphentest.dvi (1 page, 680 bytes).



Re: hyphens

1999-09-05 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 10:59:22PM +0930, susie wrote:
> 
> Bill> Maybe you can post it to the list as a text (ascii) file.
> 
> sorry bill.
>  here it is; the LyX file and the corresponding log file
>  in ascii showing the faulty hyphenation.
> 

If you are running Redhat 6.0, you should upgrade to the latest RPM (3.0.2)
from ftp.rpm.org and then upgrade to the latest tetex-1.0 RPM. The tetex
RPM that shipped with RH 6.0 had hyphenation problems like you describe.

---Kayvan

Kayvan Aghaiepour Sylvan  | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.   | Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena (8/8/89)
http://sylvan.com/~kayvan |   | Robin Gregory (2/28/92)



Re: hyphens

1999-09-04 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Dirk Klugmann wrote:

 I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
 paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
 switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.
 
 Hope this helps.

My latex croaks on `\fuzzy', isn't it supposed to be `\fussy'?

--
Sincerely etc.,

 NAMEChristopher Sawtell - Support Engineer - iOpen Technologies Ltd.
 ICQ UIN 45863470
 EMAIL   csawtell(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz
 CNOTES  ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/C/tutorials/sawtell_C.tar.gz 



Re: hyphens

1999-09-04 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Dirk Klugmann wrote:

 I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
 paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
 switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.
 
 Hope this helps.

My latex croaks on `\fuzzy', isn't it supposed to be `\fussy'?

--
Sincerely etc.,

 NAMEChristopher Sawtell - Support Engineer - iOpen Technologies Ltd.
 ICQ UIN 45863470
 EMAIL   csawtell(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz
 CNOTES  ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/C/tutorials/sawtell_C.tar.gz 



Re: hyphens

1999-09-04 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Dirk Klugmann wrote:
>
> I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
> paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
> switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.
> 
> Hope this helps.

My latex croaks on `\fuzzy', isn't it supposed to be `\fussy'?

--
Sincerely etc.,

 NAMEChristopher Sawtell - Support Engineer - iOpen Technologies Ltd.
 ICQ UIN 45863470
 EMAIL   csawtell(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz
 CNOTES  ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/C/tutorials/sawtell_C.tar.gz 



hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me


g'day again,

 in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx
 and/or latex insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent
 places, such as "system-s".
 can anyone tell me how i can disable all hyphenation ?
 or is it possible to disable it on an individual paragraph 
 basis at least ?

please have a nice day.
susie.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Dirk Klugmann

susie wrote:
 
  in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx
  and/or latex insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent
  places, such as "system-s".
  can anyone tell me how i can disable all hyphenation ?
  or is it possible to disable it on an individual paragraph
  basis at least ?
 

I do not know how to strictly disable all hyphenation (surely a solution
can be found in good LaTeX books), but inserting the command "\sloppy"
in the latex preamble (Pulldown: Layout - LaTex Preamble) will get you
rid of virtually all hyphenations.  The cost is a somewhat less
restrictive typesetting (more variable space between single words), but
it's usually hard to notice by eye.

I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.

Hope this helps.

Happy LyXing, Dirk

-- 

**

 Dr. Dirk Klugmann
Institut fuer Troposphaerenforschung  Tel.: +49 341 235 - 2146
 Permoserstrasse 15FAX: +49 341 235 - 2139
 D-04318 LeipzigE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   WWW: http://www.tropos.de/

**



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Susie g'day again,

Susie  in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx and/or latex
Susie insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent places, such as
Susie "system-s".  can anyone tell me how i can disable all
Susie hyphenation ?  or is it possible to disable it on an individual
Susie paragraph basis at least ?

Hello,

In what language are you typesetting your document? I just checked and
the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for `systems' is
`sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get something as `system-s'.

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me



 Dirk Hope this helps.

actually,  it didnt work completely.
i put \sloppy at the beginning of a line and it made "system-s"
change to "sys-tems" which is certainly an improvement,
but \sloppy at the beginning of another paragraph had no affect
at all.

i then removed these and put \sloppy in the preamble only, 
but it had exactly the same effect. that is - it only changed
the word "systems"

 JMarc In what language are you typesetting your document? I just
 JMarc checked and the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for
 JMarc `systems' is `sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get
 JMarc something as `system-s'.

english. as far as i know. then again it could be american...
where do you check the allowed hyphenations ? i guess one solution
could be to edit that file..

thanks,
susie.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JMarc In what language are you typesetting your document? I just
JMarc checked and the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for
JMarc `systems' is `sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get
JMarc something as `system-s'.

Susie english. as far as i know. then again it could be american...
Susie where do you check the allowed hyphenations ? i guess one
Susie solution could be to edit that file..

Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem, along
with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem is... Do you
have unusually short lines or long words?

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me


 JMarc Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
 JMarc along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the
 JMarc problem is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?

here's the tex file.
it's an A4 document, and i havent changed the line settings.


 hyphentest.tex


Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JMarc Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
JMarc along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem
JMarc is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?

Susie here's the tex file.  it's an A4 document, and i havent changed
Susie the line settings.

Thanks. With this file, I get:

fantomas: latex hyphentest.tex 
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2c 7.0)
MLTeX v2.2 enabled
[...]

Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems 

[...]

As you can see the hyphnation for systems is right.

On what system are you running? If you use linux, your are probably
using teTeX, and the program texconfig allows you to see what
hyphenation patterns are loded in the latex format.

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 JMarc Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
 JMarc along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem
 JMarc is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?
 
 Susie here's the tex file.  it's an A4 document, and i havent changed
 Susie the line settings.
 
 Thanks. With this file, I get:
 
 fantomas: latex hyphentest.tex 
 This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2c 7.0)
 MLTeX v2.2 enabled
 [...]
 
 Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
 []\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems 
 
 [...]
 
 As you can see the hyphnation for systems is right.
 
 On what system are you running? 

In a private mail she told me:-



i'm not sure which lyx it is. i think 1.0.3 (i only got it 
recently).  i'm running it on redhat 6.0 with linux 2.2.5-15



Now isn't that the RH release where RedHat screwed up the TeX install
and you have to re-do some of it manually?

I do not run RH here so I can't remember all the details, but I'm sure somebody
on the list will know what you have to do..

btw, Your test page typesets perfectly here. Here are the relvent lines from
my log file. What do you get in your log?

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2)
(/home/chris/Desktop/hyphentest.tex
LaTeX2e 1997/12/01 patch level 2
Babel v3.6j and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, nohyphenat
ion, loaded.
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/book.cls
Document Class: book 1997/10/10 v1.3x Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo))
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def)) (hyphentest.aux)
Chapter 1.

Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems
[1] (hyphentest.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on hyphentest.dvi (1 page, 668 bytes).
Transcript written on hyphentest.log.   

The overfull hbox is only a point or so, so it can be ignored safely

You could concoct a totally unsatisfactory quick fix by putting a hard end of
line ( CTRL-RET ) somewhere in the line, and put a space at the start of the
second line. However it would be a _much_ better idea to get the TeX problems
sorted out..

You would probably find having `The not so short introduction to LaTeX2e'
to hand very useful. Your nearest mirror appears to be:-

http://www.cmis.csiro.au/Graham.Williams/TeX/entries/lshort-english.html

It's well written and is very informative, and the author answers his
e-mail, but he is on holiday until the 26th.

 If you use linux, your are probably
 using teTeX, and the program texconfig allows you to see what
 hyphenation patterns are loded in the latex format.

--
Sincerely etc.,

 NAMEChristopher Sawtell - Support Engineer - iOpen Technologies Ltd.
 ICQ UIN 45863470
 EMAIL   csawtell(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz
 CNOTES  ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/C/tutorials/sawtell_C.tar.gz 



hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me


g'day again,

 in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx
 and/or latex insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent
 places, such as "system-s".
 can anyone tell me how i can disable all hyphenation ?
 or is it possible to disable it on an individual paragraph 
 basis at least ?

please have a nice day.
susie.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Dirk Klugmann

susie wrote:
 
  in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx
  and/or latex insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent
  places, such as "system-s".
  can anyone tell me how i can disable all hyphenation ?
  or is it possible to disable it on an individual paragraph
  basis at least ?
 

I do not know how to strictly disable all hyphenation (surely a solution
can be found in good LaTeX books), but inserting the command "\sloppy"
in the latex preamble (Pulldown: Layout - LaTex Preamble) will get you
rid of virtually all hyphenations.  The cost is a somewhat less
restrictive typesetting (more variable space between single words), but
it's usually hard to notice by eye.

I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.

Hope this helps.

Happy LyXing, Dirk

-- 

**

 Dr. Dirk Klugmann
Institut fuer Troposphaerenforschung  Tel.: +49 341 235 - 2146
 Permoserstrasse 15FAX: +49 341 235 - 2139
 D-04318 LeipzigE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   WWW: http://www.tropos.de/

**



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Susie g'day again,

Susie  in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx and/or latex
Susie insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent places, such as
Susie "system-s".  can anyone tell me how i can disable all
Susie hyphenation ?  or is it possible to disable it on an individual
Susie paragraph basis at least ?

Hello,

In what language are you typesetting your document? I just checked and
the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for `systems' is
`sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get something as `system-s'.

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me



 Dirk Hope this helps.

actually,  it didnt work completely.
i put \sloppy at the beginning of a line and it made "system-s"
change to "sys-tems" which is certainly an improvement,
but \sloppy at the beginning of another paragraph had no affect
at all.

i then removed these and put \sloppy in the preamble only, 
but it had exactly the same effect. that is - it only changed
the word "systems"

 JMarc In what language are you typesetting your document? I just
 JMarc checked and the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for
 JMarc `systems' is `sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get
 JMarc something as `system-s'.

english. as far as i know. then again it could be american...
where do you check the allowed hyphenations ? i guess one solution
could be to edit that file..

thanks,
susie.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JMarc In what language are you typesetting your document? I just
JMarc checked and the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for
JMarc `systems' is `sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get
JMarc something as `system-s'.

Susie english. as far as i know. then again it could be american...
Susie where do you check the allowed hyphenations ? i guess one
Susie solution could be to edit that file..

Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem, along
with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem is... Do you
have unusually short lines or long words?

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me


 JMarc Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
 JMarc along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the
 JMarc problem is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?

here's the tex file.
it's an A4 document, and i havent changed the line settings.


 hyphentest.tex


Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JMarc Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
JMarc along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem
JMarc is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?

Susie here's the tex file.  it's an A4 document, and i havent changed
Susie the line settings.

Thanks. With this file, I get:

fantomas: latex hyphentest.tex 
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2c 7.0)
MLTeX v2.2 enabled
[...]

Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems 

[...]

As you can see the hyphnation for systems is right.

On what system are you running? If you use linux, your are probably
using teTeX, and the program texconfig allows you to see what
hyphenation patterns are loded in the latex format.

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  "Susie" == me  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 JMarc Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
 JMarc along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem
 JMarc is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?
 
 Susie here's the tex file.  it's an A4 document, and i havent changed
 Susie the line settings.
 
 Thanks. With this file, I get:
 
 fantomas: latex hyphentest.tex 
 This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2c 7.0)
 MLTeX v2.2 enabled
 [...]
 
 Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
 []\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems 
 
 [...]
 
 As you can see the hyphnation for systems is right.
 
 On what system are you running? 

In a private mail she told me:-



i'm not sure which lyx it is. i think 1.0.3 (i only got it 
recently).  i'm running it on redhat 6.0 with linux 2.2.5-15



Now isn't that the RH release where RedHat screwed up the TeX install
and you have to re-do some of it manually?

I do not run RH here so I can't remember all the details, but I'm sure somebody
on the list will know what you have to do..

btw, Your test page typesets perfectly here. Here are the relvent lines from
my log file. What do you get in your log?

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2)
(/home/chris/Desktop/hyphentest.tex
LaTeX2e 1997/12/01 patch level 2
Babel v3.6j and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, nohyphenat
ion, loaded.
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/book.cls
Document Class: book 1997/10/10 v1.3x Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo))
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def)) (hyphentest.aux)
Chapter 1.

Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems
[1] (hyphentest.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on hyphentest.dvi (1 page, 668 bytes).
Transcript written on hyphentest.log.   

The overfull hbox is only a point or so, so it can be ignored safely

You could concoct a totally unsatisfactory quick fix by putting a hard end of
line ( CTRL-RET ) somewhere in the line, and put a space at the start of the
second line. However it would be a _much_ better idea to get the TeX problems
sorted out..

You would probably find having `The not so short introduction to LaTeX2e'
to hand very useful. Your nearest mirror appears to be:-

http://www.cmis.csiro.au/Graham.Williams/TeX/entries/lshort-english.html

It's well written and is very informative, and the author answers his
e-mail, but he is on holiday until the 26th.

 If you use linux, your are probably
 using teTeX, and the program texconfig allows you to see what
 hyphenation patterns are loded in the latex format.

--
Sincerely etc.,

 NAMEChristopher Sawtell - Support Engineer - iOpen Technologies Ltd.
 ICQ UIN 45863470
 EMAIL   csawtell(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz
 CNOTES  ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/C/tutorials/sawtell_C.tar.gz 



hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me


g'day again,

 in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx
 and/or latex insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent
 places, such as "system-s".
 can anyone tell me how i can disable all hyphenation ?
 or is it possible to disable it on an individual paragraph 
 basis at least ?

please have a nice day.
susie.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Dirk Klugmann

susie wrote:
> 
>  in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx
>  and/or latex insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent
>  places, such as "system-s".
>  can anyone tell me how i can disable all hyphenation ?
>  or is it possible to disable it on an individual paragraph
>  basis at least ?
> 

I do not know how to strictly disable all hyphenation (surely a solution
can be found in good LaTeX books), but inserting the command "\sloppy"
in the latex preamble (Pulldown: Layout -> LaTex Preamble) will get you
rid of virtually all hyphenations.  The cost is a somewhat less
restrictive typesetting (more variable space between single words), but
it's usually hard to notice by eye.

I assume that putting "\sloppy" in red (TeX style) in front of a
paragraph will have the same effort for the following text.  You can
switch back to fuzzy typesetting by specifying "\fuzzy" at any place.

Hope this helps.

Happy LyXing, Dirk

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Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

>>>>> "Susie" == me  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Susie> g'day again,

Susie>  in my 'book' class document i've foudn that Lyx and/or latex
Susie> insists on putting hyphens in unintelligent places, such as
Susie> "system-s".  can anyone tell me how i can disable all
Susie> hyphenation ?  or is it possible to disable it on an individual
Susie> paragraph basis at least ?

Hello,

In what language are you typesetting your document? I just checked and
the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for `systems' is
`sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get something as `system-s'.

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me



 Dirk> Hope this helps.

actually,  it didnt work completely.
i put \sloppy at the beginning of a line and it made "system-s"
change to "sys-tems" which is certainly an improvement,
but \sloppy at the beginning of another paragraph had no affect
at all.

i then removed these and put \sloppy in the preamble only, 
but it had exactly the same effect. that is - it only changed
the word "systems"

 JMarc> In what language are you typesetting your document? I just
 JMarc> checked and the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for
 JMarc> `systems' is `sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get
 JMarc> something as `system-s'.

english. as far as i know. then again it could be american...
where do you check the allowed hyphenations ? i guess one solution
could be to edit that file..

thanks,
susie.



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Susie" == me  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JMarc> In what language are you typesetting your document? I just
JMarc> checked and the only hypenation proposed by TeX in english for
JMarc> `systems' is `sys-tems'. I do not understand how you could get
JMarc> something as `system-s'.

Susie> english. as far as i know. then again it could be american...
Susie> where do you check the allowed hyphenations ? i guess one
Susie> solution could be to edit that file..

Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem, along
with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem is... Do you
have unusually short lines or long words?

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread me


 JMarc> Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
 JMarc> along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the
 JMarc> problem is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?

here's the tex file.
it's an A4 document, and i havent changed the line settings.


 hyphentest.tex


Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Susie" == me  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JMarc> Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
JMarc> along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem
JMarc> is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?

Susie> here's the tex file.  it's an A4 document, and i havent changed
Susie> the line settings.

Thanks. With this file, I get:

fantomas: latex hyphentest.tex 
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2c 7.0)
MLTeX v2.2 enabled
[...]

Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems 

[...]

As you can see the hyphnation for systems is right.

On what system are you running? If you use linux, your are probably
using teTeX, and the program texconfig allows you to see what
hyphenation patterns are loded in the latex format.

JMarc



Re: hyphens

1999-09-03 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Susie" == me  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> JMarc> Could you send a short TeX document that produces the problem,
> JMarc> along with the .log file? I am curious to know what the problem
> JMarc> is... Do you have unusually short lines or long words?
> 
> Susie> here's the tex file.  it's an A4 document, and i havent changed
> Susie> the line settings.
> 
> Thanks. With this file, I get:
> 
> fantomas: latex hyphentest.tex 
> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2c 7.0)
> MLTeX v2.2 enabled
> [...]
> 
> Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
> []\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems 
> 
> [...]
> 
> As you can see the hyphnation for systems is right.
> 
> On what system are you running? 

In a private mail she told me:-



i'm not sure which lyx it is. i think 1.0.3 (i only got it 
recently).  i'm running it on redhat 6.0 with linux 2.2.5-15



Now isn't that the RH release where RedHat screwed up the TeX install
and you have to re-do some of it manually?

I do not run RH here so I can't remember all the details, but I'm sure somebody
on the list will know what you have to do..

btw, Your test page typesets perfectly here. Here are the relvent lines from
my log file. What do you get in your log?

This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2)
(/home/chris/Desktop/hyphentest.tex
LaTeX2e <1997/12/01> patch level 2
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, nohyphenat
ion, loaded.
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/book.cls
Document Class: book 1997/10/10 v1.3x Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/bk10.clo))
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def)) (hyphentest.aux)
Chapter 1.

Overfull \hbox (1.29025pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 25--25
[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/14.4 Frequency Hopped Spread Spec-trum Sys-tems
[1] (hyphentest.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on hyphentest.dvi (1 page, 668 bytes).
Transcript written on hyphentest.log.   

The overfull hbox is only a point or so, so it can be ignored safely

You could concoct a totally unsatisfactory quick fix by putting a hard end of
line ( CTRL-RET ) somewhere in the line, and put a space at the start of the
second line. However it would be a _much_ better idea to get the TeX problems
sorted out..

You would probably find having `The not so short introduction to LaTeX2e'
to hand very useful. Your nearest mirror appears to be:-

http://www.cmis.csiro.au/Graham.Williams/TeX/entries/lshort-english.html

It's well written and is very informative, and the author answers his
e-mail, but he is on holiday until the 26th.

> If you use linux, your are probably
> using teTeX, and the program texconfig allows you to see what
> hyphenation patterns are loded in the latex format.

--
Sincerely etc.,

 NAMEChristopher Sawtell - Support Engineer - iOpen Technologies Ltd.
 ICQ UIN 45863470
 EMAIL   csawtell(at)xtra(dot)co(dot)nz
 CNOTES  ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/C/tutorials/sawtell_C.tar.gz