[M100] Back light?

[Jason Benson]

Has anyone ever back-lit an M100? I try to keep my mods minimally invasive
on old hardware, but I was thinking about trying to add back-lighting to my
M100 using a technique similar to the one shown here:
https://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-LCD-backlight/

Anyone on here ever tried something like that?
-Jason

Re: [M100] Ultimate Rom II TS-Dos

[Jason Benson]

Is there a loader for NEC TSDOS? My 8201A doesn't have an option rom, but I
can transfer DO files to it from my M100.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:33 AM B4 Me100  wrote:

> The attached file will generate TSLOAD.  Quite a small Basic program that
> loads the file into memory, the .do file can be deleted after loading.
>
> On 10/3/20, 8:47 PM, "M100 on behalf of Joshua O'Keefe"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 10, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
> >> TS-DOS and Sardine for UR-II attached
> >
> >Thanks for this.  For those of us with optionless hardware you wouldn't
> >happen to have the loader handy as well, would you?  I think it's called
> >TSLOAD?  Ive been keeping DOS100 itself in RAM and it's kind of hefty.
> >Using the loader seems more memory-friendly, but I have yet to figure out
> >where to find a copy.
>
>

[M100] REX3?

[Jason Benson]

I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the fun
I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is available
anywhere.
-Jason

Re: [M100] Ultimate Rom II TS-Dos

[Jason Benson]

Thanks! You guys are awesome!

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:33 AM B4 Me100  wrote:

> The attached file will generate TSLOAD.  Quite a small Basic program that
> loads the file into memory, the .do file can be deleted after loading.
>
> On 10/3/20, 8:47 PM, "M100 on behalf of Joshua O'Keefe"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 10, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Kurt McCullum  wrote:
> >> TS-DOS and Sardine for UR-II attached
> >
> >Thanks for this.  For those of us with optionless hardware you wouldn't
> >happen to have the loader handy as well, would you?  I think it's called
> >TSLOAD?  Ive been keeping DOS100 itself in RAM and it's kind of hefty.
> >Using the loader seems more memory-friendly, but I have yet to figure out
> >where to find a copy.
>
>

Re: [M100] REX + Ultrascreen100

[Jason Benson]

Can I call the Rexmanger from a BASIC program? Something like:
10 CLEAR 0,60170
20 REXManager

-Jason

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:06 PM Joshua O'Keefe 
wrote:

>
> > On Mar 10, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Joshua O'Keefe 
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh wow, thanks for making me aware of this thing.  Ultrascreen100 is
> really neat!  I'm not quite sure how to turn it back off, though.
>
> Answering my own question: CLEAR 0,60170 will prompt to turn off USC.

[M100] Ultimate Rom II TS-Dos

[Jason Benson]

When I try to run TS-DOS from the Ultimate ROM II(v2.12) I get the error
"Not found". Do I need to load a separate binary for TS-DOS? I haven't
found one yet , but I still have a lot of stuff to look through.
-Jason

[M100] REX + Ultrascreen100

[Jason Benson]

I was excited when I came across Ultrascreen100, and it worked great when I
loaded it, but after loading it if I try to run the Rexmanager the screen
blanks out and the only resolution seems to be cold starting it.
Is Ultrascreen100 incompatible with REX or am I doing something wrong?
-Jason

Re: [M100] Option Rom File Formats

[Jason Benson]

Thanks!

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 11:32 PM Willard Goosey  wrote:

> yes .hex is the wrong format. you have to turn them back into raw binaries
> with a hex2bin.
>
> also http://bitchin100.com/wiki/images/6/63/M100_OPTION_ROMS.zip has most
> of the roms all ready to for REX.  (about the only useful rom not there is
> crdfil.rom)
>
> hoot, guardian etch, and logit are weird, undocumented, require special
> equipment, or some combination...
>
>
> Willard
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>

[M100] Option Rom File Formats

[Jason Benson]

Hey guys, I got myself a REX. I had no real trouble installing rex, and
after a bit of head scratching I think I've got LaddieAlpha more or less
figured out. I'm trying to load some option roms though and I'm running
into some trouble.
When I try to load an option rom in REX it looks like LA is expecting the
file to have a .BX extension. The option roms I found on Club 100 seem to
be labeled as .HEX files on the site and download to .TXT files. Renaming
the files doesn't seem to work, so I'm thinking they might be in the wrong
format. I somehow got UR2100 (Ultimate Rom II) to load, but I honestly
don't know why that one worked and the others haven't. I've tried a few of
the others but I've had no luck. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong, and are
any of the other roms very useful?
-Jason

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[Jason Benson]

>  That's the worst way possible to do "press any key to continue".
> In my own "walk through", I'm replacing those with

When I was briefly debugging it I came across a number of things I would
change if I had written it, and I considered just rewriting chunks of it,
but I decided to leave it more or less intact as a historical example. If I
actually needed to use this for a D 1st Ed campaign I would
definitely rewrite it though.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 6:35 PM Dan Higdon  wrote:

> That's the worst way possible to do "press any key to continue".
> In my own "walk through", I'm replacing those with
>
> 1300 if inkey$="" then 1300
> 1320 cls
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 5:16 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:
>
>> BTW, what the hell is this:
>>
>> 1300 INPUT C
>> 1310 ON  C GOTO  1320
>> 1320 PRINT  CHR$(12)
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 14:09, Jason Benson 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good to know. Here's the same file renamed to DMPS.DO
>> > As for the error you ran into, I'm not at all surprised, there are
>> probably a few of bugs in there I missed and didn't trigger when I did some
>> brief testing on it.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 5:03 PM John R. Hogerhuis 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 1:58 PM Jason Benson 
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I was loading the file through Virtual T. and running it just fine.
>> Is it VT automatically converting it to a tokenized basic file?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >> Yes.
>>
>

Re: [M100] test

[Jason Benson]

Tested.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:28 PM Mike Stein  wrote:

> test
>

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[Jason Benson]

Good to know. Here's the same file renamed to DMPS.DO
As for the error you ran into, I'm not at all surprised, there are
probably a few of bugs in there I missed and didn't trigger when I did some
brief testing on it.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 5:03 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 1:58 PM Jason Benson 
> wrote:
>
>> I was loading the file through Virtual T. and running it just fine. Is it
>> VT automatically converting it to a tokenized basic file?
>>
>>>
>>>
> Yes.
>


DMPS.DO
Description: Binary data

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[Jason Benson]

I was loading the file through Virtual T. and running it just fine. Is it
VT automatically converting it to a tokenized basic file?

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:53 PM John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

> Jason, the proper extension for your file is .DO, not .BA. So, DMPS.DO
>
> BA is for tokenized files only, and inloading a file with a .BA extension
> into TS-DOS will corrupt your RAM.
>
> Well, unless you're using LaddieAlpha.EXE as the TPDD service since it
> detects that the file content is plain text and corrects the extension.
>
> -- John.
>

Re: [M100] Dungeon Master's Personnel Service

[Jason Benson]

There were a few transcription errors in this, but I was able to debug it
and get it running. I've attached my revised version of the code.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 9:15 AM Howard Pepper  wrote:

> Wow! imagine me waking up to this email thread in my inbox today! When I
> first moved down to Florida (Dec. 1996), I found the paper copy of this
> Dragon magazine, and was intrigued by the Dungeon Master's Personnel
> Service program, so I pain stakingly typed it in and debugged my mistakes
> (always mistakes!), until I got it to run.  This is so cool, because I
> haven't thought of this program in a long time.  This was on my trusty
> TRS-80 Model IV.  I still have it on a virtual disk (for XTRS) somewhere
> around here.  Thanks for the good memories!
>
> Howard
>
> On 1/8/20 2:17 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:29 PM Mike Stein  wrote:
>
>> Truly BITCHIIN !!!
>>
>> Great job, John! Might as well get rid of all my 'real' M100s ;-)
>>
>> m
>>
>
> I'll PM you offline with my address :-)
>
> -- John.
>
>
>


DMPS.BA
Description: Binary data

Re: [M100] Wifi RS232 Trouble

[Jason Benson]

I've tried with a null modem and a standard serial cable. I was able to
access the device and see it's output, but whenever I connected to a telnet
site it would display the first few lines and then reset it self and print
out a stack trace for the fault location in memory.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:32 AM James Zeun  wrote:

> I have one of these, are you just using a bog standard Null modem cable to
> hook it up to your M100?
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 00:25, Tom Dison  wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I have had good luck with mine from
>> https://www.simulant.uk/shop/retro-vintage-computer-wifi-modem-rs232-serial-hayes-compatible
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 6:08 PM Jason Benson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried testing this modem out hooked up to my modern windows pc through
>>> a serial adapter and using Putty, and I'm getting the same results.
>>> Something dodgy in the software.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 4:56 PM Kurt McCullum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could be the M100 is sending an XOFF due to a buffer full condition.
>>>> The modem should be able to handle the flow control but you could always
>>>> turn it off for a test.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The "WDT reset" is the modem microcontroller's WatchDog Timer
>>>> resetting the MCU due to a software fault in the modem. I wonder if
>>>> the M100 is exacerbating some dodgy programming on this modem somehow.
>>>>
>>>> -Josh
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 1:56 PM Jason Benson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hey guys, I got a Simple Wifi RS232 modem from Etsy, and I'm having
>>>> some trouble if any of you are familiar with this sort of device. I've
>>>> messaged the maker about it but I haven't heard anything back yet and my
>>>> attempts to google a resolution have come up short. It seems to be a
>>>> problem with the firmware but beyond that I'm not sure.
>>>> >
>>>> > Link:
>>>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/656706499/simple-wifi-rs232-modem?ga_order=most_relevant_search_type=all_view_type=gallery_search_query=Simple+Wifi+RS232+Modem=sr_gallery-1-1_search_click=1
>>>> >
>>>> > When I connect to it I can communicate with the modem alright  and I
>>>> didn't have any trouble setting up a connection to my wifi router. However
>>>> when I connect to a telnet site through it I only get a few lines of text
>>>> back from the other side before the device has some sort of software
>>>> failure. It spits out a stack track and resets.
>>>> >
>>>> > Here's a log of what happens:
>>>> > HAL's friends release, running on Simple Wifi Modem
>>>> > Zimodem Firmware v3.5
>>>> > sdk=1.5.3(aec24ac9) chipid=1327265 cpu@80
>>>> > totsize=1024k ssize=310k fsize=51k speed=40m
>>>> > CONNECTED TO Cyberspace (192.168.1.24)
>>>> > READY.
>>>> > atdt"telehack.com:23"
>>>> > CONNECT 1
>>>> >
>>>> > Connected to TELEHACK port 43
>>>> >
>>>> > It is 7:21 pm on Wednesday, June 12, 2019 in Mountain View,
>>>> California, USA.
>>>> > There are 29 local users. There are 26637 hosts on the network.
>>>> >
>>>> >   Type HELP for a detailed command list.
>>>> >   Type NEWUSER to create an account.
>>>> >
>>>> > May the command line live forever.
>>>> >
>>>> > Command, one of the following:
>>>> >   2048?   a2  ac
>>>> > Soft WDT reset
>>>> >
>>>> > ctx: cont
>>>> > sp: 3fff25b0 end: 3fff2830 offset: 01b0
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>stack>>>
>>>> > 3fff2760:   3fffc6fc 3fff47c4 0155
>>>> > 3fff2770:  3fff0514 0020 0020 40206e6e
>>>> > 3fff2780:   3fff0498 3fff0498 40208bfb
>>>> > 3fff2790:    3fff0484 0156
>>>> > 3fff27a0:  0414 3fff0498 3fff0484 402103e9
>>>> > 3fff27b0:  0020 0005 3fff0454 0010
>>>> > 3fff27c0:  0020 3fff26c0  00bc
>>>> > 3fff27d0:   3fff01d4 3fff1744 40212396
>>>> > 3fff27e0¦¦
>>>> > HAL's friends release, running on Simple Wifi Modem
>>>> > Zimodem Firmware v3.5
>>>> > sdk=1.5.3(aec24ac9) chipid=1327265 cpu@80
>>>> > totsize=1024k ssize=310k fsize=51k speed=40m
>>>> > CONNECTED TO Cyberspace (192.168.1.24)
>>>> > READY.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
> --
> My retro tech blog and general ramblings
> http://bytemyvdu.wordpress.com/
>

Re: [M100] Wifi RS232 Trouble

[Jason Benson]

I tried testing this modem out hooked up to my modern windows pc through a
serial adapter and using Putty, and I'm getting the same results. Something
dodgy in the software.

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 4:56 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> Could be the M100 is sending an XOFF due to a buffer full condition. The
> modem should be able to handle the flow control but you could always turn
> it off for a test.
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Josh Malone wrote:
>
> The "WDT reset" is the modem microcontroller's WatchDog Timer
> resetting the MCU due to a software fault in the modem. I wonder if
> the M100 is exacerbating some dodgy programming on this modem somehow.
>
> -Josh
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 1:56 PM Jason Benson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys, I got a Simple Wifi RS232 modem from Etsy, and I'm having some
> trouble if any of you are familiar with this sort of device. I've messaged
> the maker about it but I haven't heard anything back yet and my attempts to
> google a resolution have come up short. It seems to be a problem with the
> firmware but beyond that I'm not sure.
> >
> > Link:
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/656706499/simple-wifi-rs232-modem?ga_order=most_relevant_search_type=all_view_type=gallery_search_query=Simple+Wifi+RS232+Modem=sr_gallery-1-1_search_click=1
> >
> > When I connect to it I can communicate with the modem alright  and I
> didn't have any trouble setting up a connection to my wifi router. However
> when I connect to a telnet site through it I only get a few lines of text
> back from the other side before the device has some sort of software
> failure. It spits out a stack track and resets.
> >
> > Here's a log of what happens:
> > HAL's friends release, running on Simple Wifi Modem
> > Zimodem Firmware v3.5
> > sdk=1.5.3(aec24ac9) chipid=1327265 cpu@80
> > totsize=1024k ssize=310k fsize=51k speed=40m
> > CONNECTED TO Cyberspace (192.168.1.24)
> > READY.
> > atdt"telehack.com:23"
> > CONNECT 1
> >
> > Connected to TELEHACK port 43
> >
> > It is 7:21 pm on Wednesday, June 12, 2019 in Mountain View, California,
> USA.
> > There are 29 local users. There are 26637 hosts on the network.
> >
> >   Type HELP for a detailed command list.
> >   Type NEWUSER to create an account.
> >
> > May the command line live forever.
> >
> > Command, one of the following:
> >   2048?   a2  ac
> > Soft WDT reset
> >
> > ctx: cont
> > sp: 3fff25b0 end: 3fff2830 offset: 01b0
> >
> > >>>stack>>>
> > 3fff2760:   3fffc6fc 3fff47c4 0155
> > 3fff2770:  3fff0514 0020 0020 40206e6e
> > 3fff2780:   3fff0498 3fff0498 40208bfb
> > 3fff2790:    3fff0484 0156
> > 3fff27a0:  0414 3fff0498 3fff0484 402103e9
> > 3fff27b0:  0020 0005 3fff0454 0010
> > 3fff27c0:  0020 3fff26c0  00bc
> > 3fff27d0:   3fff01d4 3fff1744 40212396
> > 3fff27e0¦¦
> > HAL's friends release, running on Simple Wifi Modem
> > Zimodem Firmware v3.5
> > sdk=1.5.3(aec24ac9) chipid=1327265 cpu@80
> > totsize=1024k ssize=310k fsize=51k speed=40m
> > CONNECTED TO Cyberspace (192.168.1.24)
> > READY.
>
>
>

[M100] Wifi RS232 Trouble

[Jason Benson]

Hey guys, I got a Simple Wifi RS232 modem from Etsy, and I'm having some
trouble if any of you are familiar with this sort of device. I've messaged
the maker about it but I haven't heard anything back yet and my attempts to
google a resolution have come up short. It seems to be a problem with the
firmware but beyond that I'm not sure.

Link:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/656706499/simple-wifi-rs232-modem?ga_order=most_relevant_search_type=all_view_type=gallery_search_query=Simple+Wifi+RS232+Modem=sr_gallery-1-1_search_click=1

When I connect to it I can communicate with the modem alright  and I didn't
have any trouble setting up a connection to my wifi router. However when I
connect to a telnet site through it I only get a few lines of text back
from the other side before the device has some sort of software failure. It
spits out a stack track and resets.

Here's a log of what happens:
HAL's friends release, running on Simple Wifi Modem
Zimodem Firmware v3.5
sdk=1.5.3(aec24ac9) chipid=1327265 cpu@80
totsize=1024k ssize=310k fsize=51k speed=40m
CONNECTED TO Cyberspace (192.168.1.24)
READY.
atdt"telehack.com:23"
CONNECT 1

Connected to TELEHACK port 43

It is 7:21 pm on Wednesday, June 12, 2019 in Mountain View, California, USA.
There are 29 local users. There are 26637 hosts on the network.

  Type HELP for a detailed command list.
  Type NEWUSER to create an account.

May the command line live forever.

Command, one of the following:
  2048?   a2  ac
Soft WDT reset

ctx: cont
sp: 3fff25b0 end: 3fff2830 offset: 01b0

>>>stack>>>
3fff2760:   3fffc6fc 3fff47c4 0155
3fff2770:  3fff0514 0020 0020 40206e6e
3fff2780:   3fff0498 3fff0498 40208bfb
3fff2790:    3fff0484 0156
3fff27a0:  0414 3fff0498 3fff0484 402103e9
3fff27b0:  0020 0005 3fff0454 0010
3fff27c0:  0020 3fff26c0  00bc
3fff27d0:   3fff01d4 3fff1744 40212396
3fff27e0¦¦
HAL's friends release, running on Simple Wifi Modem
Zimodem Firmware v3.5
sdk=1.5.3(aec24ac9) chipid=1327265 cpu@80
totsize=1024k ssize=310k fsize=51k speed=40m
CONNECTED TO Cyberspace (192.168.1.24)
READY.

[M100] PC-8201A Blues

[Jason Benson]

Hey guys. I got a NEC PC-8201A awhile back and I've had some trouble with
it.

When I first got it, it to worked fine for a few minutes then the screen
blanked and it wouldn't respond. I tried a number of things including
replacing the internal battery but nothing seemed to work.

Later I heard of someone having trouble with a board because the flux from
their solder was shorting connections so I decided to open the 8201 and
clean up my work on the battery.
It started working again!!

I spent about a half hour tinkering with it when the contrast started to
fluctuate, then the screen faded out all together and now it won't display
anything.

Any ideas?

P.S. when the screen died I was trying to figure out why it wouldn't switch
between memory banks even though it had a full set of ram upgrade chips,
but that's secondary to the screen issue.

-Jason

Re: [M100] Duplicate a file

[Jason Benson]

Thanks guys

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 2:02 PM, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:

>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:01 AM John R. Hogerhuis 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 10:20 AM David Szasz  wrote:
>>
>>> jason:
>>>
>>> You can just save the file under another name. See the NAME command.
>>>
>>> NAME "old filename" AS "new filename"
>>>
>>> I hope that helps a little.
>>>
>>> D. Szasz
>>>
>>
>> That wouldn’t create a copy it would just rename the only copy.
>>
>
> (Meant to say I think... could be wrong)
>
> — John.
>

[M100] Duplicate a file

[Jason Benson]

Hey guys, is there anyway to make a copy of a BASIC file so that you have a
backup other than saving it to another machine or external storage?

Per the manual :

In the Model 100 there usually is no backup copy. You
should make one for important documents as early as
possible.

But that seems crazy. Would it be possible copy the text of the program and
then paste it in a new ram file? That would give it a new memory address,
but I'm not sure how.
-Jason

Re: [M100] 8201A NiCd

[Jason Benson]

The switches both check out. I feel like I'm running out of simple
solutions.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Jason Benson <jason.benson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> That sounds worth trying, a switch is easy enough to fix or replace.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:17 PM, John Gardner <gof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My $.02 HK - I have two (8201a) - Both have flaky ON/OFF switches.
>>
>> One was replaced,  a lot of years ago now.  The "new" one is now
>> flaky...  :(
>>
>> The occasional shot of Deoxit seems to help.  Perhaps the RAM switch
>>
>> on the bottom of the case would similarly benefit.  HTH.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/17, Gary Weber <m100l...@gweber.org> wrote:
>> > Have you tried sliding the "BACKUP POWER" switch on the bottom off and
>> on
>> > several times?  It could be that the little slider switch is misbehaving
>> > and isn't actually closing the circuit at the moment.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Jason Benson <
>> jason.benson...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sad Trombone. I replaced the internal NiCd in my 8201A that was DOA
>> from
>> >> eBay, but I have been unable to elicit any sign of life from it. The
>> NiCd
>> >> was definitely garbage, with almost no current output and a fair amount
>> >> of
>> >> green crud on the positive side, and I believe my replacement was done
>> >> well
>> >> enough. I checked that I had the polarity right and that I hadn't
>> shorted
>> >> any of the nearby traces with my ham-fisted soldering.
>> >> Given that the new NiCd already had a strong voltage, I doubt it needs
>> to
>> >> be charged, but I have it hooked up to the wall-wart just in case. Does
>> >> anyone have any suggestions?
>> >> -Jason
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The link i sent is correct for m100. The NEC im not sure about but
>> >>> presumably you can verify that.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 5, 2017 12:11 PM, "Jason Benson" <jason.benson...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Does the M100 use the same type of battery? Since I'm ordering two I
>> >>>> figured I might was well replace the old NiCd in my M100 as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I was going to suggest this item:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-60mAh-3-6V-Ni-CD-Button-Cell-R
>> >>>>> echargeable-Battery-with-tab-US-Stock-/131976578753
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Actually, that is the wrong battery.  Looks right, but I noticed it
>> >>>>>> has 3 pins instead of 2.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ken
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 7/5/17 6:56 AM, Ken Pettit wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi Jason,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> No, I haven't really had any time to devote to Club1000 with my job
>> >>>>>> and my 5 and 3 yr old keeping me busy.  Purchase this battery from
>> >>>>>> Jameco:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDispl
>> >>>>>> ay?refineValue=Ni-MH=1=-1=1
>> >>>>>> ctId=2129342=1=10001=xl5e0svk%7Csub
>> >>>>>> CategoryName%7EBatteries%5Erdtvalue%7EBatteries%5Erdttype%
>> >>>>>> 7Ec%5Ecategory%7E47%5EcategoryName%7Ecategory_root%5EprodPag
>> >>>>>> e%7E15%5Epage%7ESEARCH%252BNAV_attr_name=Chemistr
>> >>>>>> y=10001=http%3AStoreCatalogDrillDownView
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ken
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 7/5/17 6:09 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Does the store at Club100 still take orders? I've been trying to
>> >>>>>> order
>> >>>>>> a replacement for the internal NiCd in my 8201A, but I've had no
>> >>>>>> responses
>> >>>>>> to my attempted Paypal orders. Failing that, does anyone know
>> where I
>> >>>>>> could
>> >>>>>> get one?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I got my 8201A off ebay, and it worked when I first started it, but
>> >>>>>> as
>> >>>>>> soon as I tried to save a file it died and I have not had any sign
>> of
>> >>>>>> life
>> >>>>>> from it since. I tried leaving it plugged in for several days with
>> a
>> >>>>>> fresh
>> >>>>>> set of batteries per the advice of some folks here to see if I
>> could
>> >>>>>> revive
>> >>>>>> the NiCd (the suspected culprit), but this had no effect.
>> >>>>>> -Jason
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] 8201A NiCd

[Jason Benson]

That sounds worth trying, a switch is easy enough to fix or replace.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:17 PM, John Gardner <gof...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My $.02 HK - I have two (8201a) - Both have flaky ON/OFF switches.
>
> One was replaced,  a lot of years ago now.  The "new" one is now flaky...
> :(
>
> The occasional shot of Deoxit seems to help.  Perhaps the RAM switch
>
> on the bottom of the case would similarly benefit.  HTH.
>
>
>
> On 7/14/17, Gary Weber <m100l...@gweber.org> wrote:
> > Have you tried sliding the "BACKUP POWER" switch on the bottom off and on
> > several times?  It could be that the little slider switch is misbehaving
> > and isn't actually closing the circuit at the moment.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Jason Benson <
> jason.benson...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sad Trombone. I replaced the internal NiCd in my 8201A that was DOA from
> >> eBay, but I have been unable to elicit any sign of life from it. The
> NiCd
> >> was definitely garbage, with almost no current output and a fair amount
> >> of
> >> green crud on the positive side, and I believe my replacement was done
> >> well
> >> enough. I checked that I had the polarity right and that I hadn't
> shorted
> >> any of the nearby traces with my ham-fisted soldering.
> >> Given that the new NiCd already had a strong voltage, I doubt it needs
> to
> >> be charged, but I have it hooked up to the wall-wart just in case. Does
> >> anyone have any suggestions?
> >> -Jason
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The link i sent is correct for m100. The NEC im not sure about but
> >>> presumably you can verify that.
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 5, 2017 12:11 PM, "Jason Benson" <jason.benson...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Does the M100 use the same type of battery? Since I'm ordering two I
> >>>> figured I might was well replace the old NiCd in my M100 as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I was going to suggest this item:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-60mAh-3-6V-Ni-CD-Button-Cell-R
> >>>>> echargeable-Battery-with-tab-US-Stock-/131976578753
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually, that is the wrong battery.  Looks right, but I noticed it
> >>>>>> has 3 pins instead of 2.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ken
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 7/5/17 6:56 AM, Ken Pettit wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, I haven't really had any time to devote to Club1000 with my job
> >>>>>> and my 5 and 3 yr old keeping me busy.  Purchase this battery from
> >>>>>> Jameco:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDispl
> >>>>>> ay?refineValue=Ni-MH=1=-1=1
> >>>>>> ctId=2129342=1=10001=xl5e0svk%7Csub
> >>>>>> CategoryName%7EBatteries%5Erdtvalue%7EBatteries%5Erdttype%
> >>>>>> 7Ec%5Ecategory%7E47%5EcategoryName%7Ecategory_root%5EprodPag
> >>>>>> e%7E15%5Epage%7ESEARCH%252BNAV_attr_name=Chemistr
> >>>>>> y=10001=http%3AStoreCatalogDrillDownView
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ken
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 7/5/17 6:09 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does the store at Club100 still take orders? I've been trying to
> >>>>>> order
> >>>>>> a replacement for the internal NiCd in my 8201A, but I've had no
> >>>>>> responses
> >>>>>> to my attempted Paypal orders. Failing that, does anyone know where
> I
> >>>>>> could
> >>>>>> get one?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I got my 8201A off ebay, and it worked when I first started it, but
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>> soon as I tried to save a file it died and I have not had any sign
> of
> >>>>>> life
> >>>>>> from it since. I tried leaving it plugged in for several days with a
> >>>>>> fresh
> >>>>>> set of batteries per the advice of some folks here to see if I could
> >>>>>> revive
> >>>>>> the NiCd (the suspected culprit), but this had no effect.
> >>>>>> -Jason
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [M100] 8201A NiCd

[Jason Benson]

Sad Trombone. I replaced the internal NiCd in my 8201A that was DOA from
eBay, but I have been unable to elicit any sign of life from it. The NiCd
was definitely garbage, with almost no current output and a fair amount of
green crud on the positive side, and I believe my replacement was done well
enough. I checked that I had the polarity right and that I hadn't shorted
any of the nearby traces with my ham-fisted soldering.
Given that the new NiCd already had a strong voltage, I doubt it needs to
be charged, but I have it hooked up to the wall-wart just in case. Does
anyone have any suggestions?
-Jason

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The link i sent is correct for m100. The NEC im not sure about but
> presumably you can verify that.
>
> On Jul 5, 2017 12:11 PM, "Jason Benson" <jason.benson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does the M100 use the same type of battery? Since I'm ordering two I
>> figured I might was well replace the old NiCd in my M100 as well.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to suggest this item:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-60mAh-3-6V-Ni-CD-Button-Cell-R
>>> echargeable-Battery-with-tab-US-Stock-/131976578753
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, that is the wrong battery.  Looks right, but I noticed it has
>>>> 3 pins instead of 2.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/5/17 6:56 AM, Ken Pettit wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>
>>>> No, I haven't really had any time to devote to Club1000 with my job and
>>>> my 5 and 3 yr old keeping me busy.  Purchase this battery from Jameco:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDispl
>>>> ay?refineValue=Ni-MH=1=-1=1
>>>> ctId=2129342=1=10001=xl5e0svk%
>>>> 7CsubCategoryName%7EBatteries%5Erdtvalue%7EBatteries%5Erdtty
>>>> pe%7Ec%5Ecategory%7E47%5EcategoryName%7Ecategory_root%
>>>> 5EprodPage%7E15%5Epage%7ESEARCH%252BNAV_attr_name=
>>>> Chemistry=10001=http%3AStoreCatalogDrillDownView
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> On 7/5/17 6:09 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does the store at Club100 still take orders? I've been trying to order
>>>> a replacement for the internal NiCd in my 8201A, but I've had no responses
>>>> to my attempted Paypal orders. Failing that, does anyone know where I could
>>>> get one?
>>>>
>>>> I got my 8201A off ebay, and it worked when I first started it, but as
>>>> soon as I tried to save a file it died and I have not had any sign of life
>>>> from it since. I tried leaving it plugged in for several days with a fresh
>>>> set of batteries per the advice of some folks here to see if I could revive
>>>> the NiCd (the suspected culprit), but this had no effect.
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

[M100] Dead NEC PC-8201A

[Jason Benson]

I replaced the internal NiCd in my 8201A that was DOA from eBay, but I have
been unable to elicit any sign of life from it. The NiCd was definitely
garbage, with almost no current output and a fair amount of green crud on
the positive side, and I believe my replacement was done well enough. I
checked that I had the polarity right and that I hadn't shorted any of the
nearby traces with my ham-fisted soldering.
Given that the new NiCd already had a strong voltage, I doubt it needs to
be charged, but I have it hooked up to the wall-wart just in case. Does
anyone have any suggestions?
-Jason

Re: [M100] It's Alive!

[Jason Benson]

Thanks to the super helpful video by Allan Zieser on Youtube(
https://youtu.be/jBCshRbrHO8 ) I was able to transfer my life program to my
PC.

If anyone wants to take a look at it you can find it here:
https://pastebin.com/3cN0E6Va
Please note, I am a novice programmer, so my code is crap, but it works. If
anyone has any suggestions to make it better I'm always ready to learn.

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 10:28 PM, <biggran...@tds.net> wrote:

> Make a GitHub account and share it?
>
> BTW, saw your post on Reddit!
>
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 9:02 PM, Jason Benson wrote:
>
>> I finished my version of Conway's Game of Life for M100 basic. It runs
>> pretty slow, but without errors. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I can do
>> to optimize it but I'm super happy just to see it running. Currently it
>> only exists in my M100's memory, but when I get it transferred (or just
>> retyped on a PC) is there anywhere I should share it for others to peruse?
>> -Jason
>>
>
>
>

[M100] It's Alive!

[Jason Benson]

I finished my version of Conway's Game of Life for M100 basic. It runs
pretty slow, but without errors. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I can do
to optimize it but I'm super happy just to see it running. Currently it
only exists in my M100's memory, but when I get it transferred (or just
retyped on a PC) is there anywhere I should share it for others to peruse?
-Jason

Re: [M100] Print /w out CR

[Jason Benson]

THANK YOU!!! I have no idea why I couldn't figure that out from the manual.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Ken Pettit <petti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Simply add a semicolon to the end of the BASIC PRINT statement and it will
> not print the CR.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 7/5/17 6:44 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I've been trying to write a simple Game of Life program for the
> Model 100 and I'm having trouble understanding how to print character
> blocks to the screen without it adding a carriage return after.
>
> I want to print my Life grid on the screen, and then overwrite it with
> each new generation without scrolling. I know how to do this with the PSET
> command for an individual pixel, but it's way too slow to refresh my whole
> screen that way. Is there a way to print a whole character at a given
> coordinate in the same way?
> -Jason
>
>
>

Re: [M100] NEC 8201A Ram

[Jason Benson]

I want to fix the 8201A but I haven't had any luck yet determining the
cause of the trouble. (see other thread about internal NiCd batteries)

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What happened to the 8201A? It might be more beneficial to just repair
> that.
>
> I can tell you from experience that SRAMs for the model-T are easy to come
> by. (I recently replaced a RAM chip in my 102 w/ parts from ebay) No reason
> to scavenge other machines for these parts.
>
> -Josh
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Jason Benson <jason.benson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My 8201A that died the first time I tried to use it has a full set of ram
>> expansions. Are those ram expansions usable in any of the other computers
>> from the M100 family? I imagine the NEC PC 8300 probably uses the same
>> chips, but probably not the M100/102.
>> -Jason
>>
>
>

Re: [M100] 8201A Trouble

[Jason Benson]

So far no luck trying to revive the battery (if that's the problem). I'll
order a new NiCD to see if that helps.
-Jason

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:03 AM, John Gardner  wrote:

> What may be going on is the 8201a has been sitting for a while
>
> with no battery or mains power.  The NiCd that backs up memory
>
> has run down;  the internal impedance of an old,  discharged NiCd is
>
> fairly high,  so when external power is applied it does'nt draw a lot of
>
> current.  As it charges the NiCds internal impedance drops & draws
>
> more current;  eventually enough to perhaps cause what you're seeing.
>
> John's right - It may take several iterations to get things working.  If
>
> thats the case,  think about replacing the NiCd soon - Its pretty easy,
>
> & fairly cheap.  If you wait until it starts leaking you'll have a real
> mess
>
> to sort out...
>
> Good luck.
>
> On 6/22/17, John R. Hogerhuis  wrote:
> > Leave the memory power on and leave it with a set of good AA's and wall
> > wart power.  Just let it sit overnight.
> >
> > Sometimes that's enough to revive the internal power cell after a long
> > period of storage.
> >
> > Then try a cold start.
> >
> > -- John
> >
>

[M100] 8201A Trouble

[Jason Benson]

Hi guys, I'm a long time fan of the site but only just got on the mailing
list.
I've been fiddling with an M100 for awhile but I felt like it was lonely so
I found it a NEC PC 8201A on ebay to hang out with.

Today I got my "new" 8201 in the mail, and was excited to find that it came
with a full set of ram expansion chips. It started up fine, I opened a text
doc typed in a few words and hit F10 to return to the main menu, then the
screen turned off and it stopped responding.

Now it seems stone dead. I've tried replacing the batteries, using the wall
power adapter, removing the ram chips, and putting them back. At each
iteration I tried turning the power off and on, turning the backup off and
on, and tried using CTRL-SHIFT-RESET to cold boot it, but I haven't had any
response.

I have the 8201 service manual, and I know how to use a multi-meter, but
I've never tried to trouble shoot anything this complicated before. Can any
of you offer any suggestions on where to start?