Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student

[Bryan Jones]

Hello All,

I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone on this list who shared your school 
experiences with me and offered good advice on tools and techniques. Now that 
my semester is over, I want to give back some information about some of those 
tools and techniques  in hopes somebody else might find them useful. I just 
completed my first college semester in over 20 years, my first as a blind 
person, and I'm proud to say I did very well in both of my classes. I've now 
enrolled as a full time student for the Spring 2012 semester with an estimated 
graduation date of June, 2013, only 29 years after I took my first college 
course. .

I was able to perform all necessary computer-related functions using my Macbook 
Air and iPhone 4. Half way through the semester I installed Windows 7 in a 
FUsion VM just in case, but never even got around to installing NVDA because I 
did not encounter any accessibility roadblocks that couldn't be handled on my 
MBA or iPhone. Here is my "Top 10" list of tools and techniques I used this 
semester.

1. Pages on the Mac. This past SUmmer I took a series of Pages lessons via 
Skype with Anne and Archie Robertson. (For those who are new to the list, Anne 
is an assistant moderator here.) The lessons were informative and enjoyable, as 
Anne & Archie are a great team with a wealth of experience working with Apple 
products and accessibility tools and techniques. During the semester I wrote 
several dozen essays, most of them in Pages, and never once had a problem 
creating a document that met the requirements of my professors. My university 
is standardized almost exclusively on Windows, MS Office, and Outlook, yet I 
never had a problem opening any Office documents in Preview, TextEdit or Pages 
and was easily able to use Outlook Web Access via Safari on my Macbook Air to 
send & receive emails and attachments.

2. The "ABBYY FineReader Express" Mac App. I used ABBYY extensively this 
semester. One of my textbooks was only available in print, but I was able to 
scan important chunks of the book using the flatbed scanner on my HP PhotoSmart 
C6100 MFP attached via USB to my Macbook Air. I scanned using Vuescan and  then 
let ABBYY do the OCR into an RTF file. I also used ABYY to OCR graphic PDF 
files such as those output from OSX's "save to PDF" print function as noted 
below in the section where I talk about textbooks. And of course, I received a 
number of incorrectly created PDF files for such things as class syllabi and 
tuition invoices, all of which ABBYY handled quite nicely.

3. The "Flashcards++" IOS App. I made extensive use of the excellent and fully 
VO-accessible IOS App named "Flashcards++." I posted a review of the app on 
applevis if you're interested, but I'll just add here that this app blows me 
away every time I use it. The simplicity of the interface hides a tremendous 
wealth of options. There are numerous ways to import cards you've created, such 
as via a simple CSV created in TextEdit, or via the major flashcard sites such 
as quizlet.com. You can also create the cards manually right on the device and 
can edit any of the cards you've imported or created. Once you've created your 
cards, you have access to a vast number of ways to display the cards, and the 
built-in logic really worked well to focus on the cards I was having difficulty 
learning. While the app is great for general purpose learning, it was actually 
developed by a student of languages and includes tools to handle many 
languages. You can select a different language for the fr
 ont and back of each card and, if you don't want to rotor between VO voices to 
hear correct pronunciation, a button is provided to speak the words via a TTS 
engine hosted somewhere on the Internet.

4. The "Speak It" IOS App. This App was recommended by Esther, and I used it 
more and more as the semester progressed. Essentially, speak It will read a 
block of text pasted into the App, and, unlike VO, will continue to read it 
aloud even when the iPhone has been locked. I would often cut and paste 
chapters from an OCR'd textbook into Speak It, lock the iPhone screen, stick 
the phone in my pocket, and listen to the information over and over again as I 
went about other tasks.

5. The "ClearRecord" IOS App. I used this App on my iPhone to record every 
lecture this semester. It somehow manages to do a good job of blocking out some 
of the extraneous classroom noises while capturing the important stuff. One 
shortcoming of this App is it's weak playback controls and options. I worked 
around this issue by using iTunes on the Mac  to tag the recordings as 
audiobooks for playback via other Apps.

6. 11 inch Macbook Air. Most days I walk several miles to and from classes and 
the 2.5 pound weight of my MBA is a blessing on my skinny frame,especially 
on those days when I'm also packing an umbrella, water bottle, towel, dog 
kibble, etc. My MBA has the i7 CPU and was able to handle everything I threw at 
it.

Re: Cyberduck [was Re: accessible FTP client]

[Paula Hobley]

Thanks for that Esther, I will definitely check out these recommendations.  I 
only want something really simple in terms of ftp, so this might be the go.

Thanks again

Paula

On 18/12/2011, at 3:32 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Paula,
> 
> I agree that Transmit is worth it, but if you want a free FTP client that is 
> accessible, a number of people use Cyberduck.  I'll point you to the download 
> link at the MacUpdate site, since the version at the Mac App store cost 
> $23.99:
> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/8392/cyberduck
> It's also possible to just use the Terminal app, and type in command line 
> instructions to perform FTP and SFTP operations, but you probably won't want 
> to do that.
> 
> Incidentally, an alternative accessible and free thesaurus software 
> application for Mac OS X that you can use is Nisus Thesaurus:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nisus-thesaurus/id471448642?mt=12
> 
> This is from the developers of Nisus Writer Pro, an accessible word 
> processor.  To use this software, highlight the word that you want to look 
> up, e.g., by holding down the Shift key when you are positioned at the start 
> of a word and then pressing Option+right arrow to select the word.  Then 
> either use the shortcut to look up the word in Nisus Thesaurus, which is 
> Command+<, or else navigate to the app on the menu bar  with Control+F2 or 
> VO-M, arrow right to the application menu, then arrow down and press "s" to 
> go to the Services option.  Right arrow to the Services submenu and navigate 
> to "Look up selection in Thesaurus", which will be listed with the shortcut 
> assignment of Command+<.  Either press return to bring up the Thesaurus 
> window for the highlighted word, or use the Command+< shortcut.  You can 
> press escape to dismiss the Thesaurus window.  The shortcut or the service 
> menu entry for "Look up selection in Thesaurus" will not show up unless you 
> have first selected a 
 wo
> rd.  This works in all the regular applications such as TextEdit, Mail, etc.
> 
> Welcome to the list.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 17:26, Paula Hobley wrote:
> 
>> I had a look at transmit.  All I want 2 be able to do is get some material 
>> off an ftp site.  It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount 
>> that I need to be able to do with it.
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestion though.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> On 18/12/2011, at 2:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until 
>>> the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well.
>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Karen
 
 I will do this.
 
 Cheers
 
 Paula
 On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1smart...@cox.net wrote:
 
> Try Transmit. Very easy to use.
> 
> Karen
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paula Hobley" 
> 
> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM
> Subject: accessible FTP client
> 
> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
>> find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
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Text document reader

[Catherine Golding]

The other day I was introduced to Abbyfein, a scanner/text reader that
works particularly well with a scanner, converting the scanned material to
text. The scanner recommended was the Canon, but I've forgotten the exact
model, but I do recall it was under $100.00.

 

Catherine G

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Cyberduck [was Re: accessible FTP client]

[Esther]

Hi Paula,

I agree that Transmit is worth it, but if you want a free FTP client that is 
accessible, a number of people use Cyberduck.  I'll point you to the download 
link at the MacUpdate site, since the version at the Mac App store cost $23.99:
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/8392/cyberduck
It's also possible to just use the Terminal app, and type in command line 
instructions to perform FTP and SFTP operations, but you probably won't want to 
do that.

Incidentally, an alternative accessible and free thesaurus software application 
for Mac OS X that you can use is Nisus Thesaurus:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nisus-thesaurus/id471448642?mt=12

This is from the developers of Nisus Writer Pro, an accessible word processor.  
To use this software, highlight the word that you want to look up, e.g., by 
holding down the Shift key when you are positioned at the start of a word and 
then pressing Option+right arrow to select the word.  Then either use the 
shortcut to look up the word in Nisus Thesaurus, which is Command+<, or else 
navigate to the app on the menu bar  with Control+F2 or VO-M, arrow right to 
the application menu, then arrow down and press "s" to go to the Services 
option.  Right arrow to the Services submenu and navigate to "Look up selection 
in Thesaurus", which will be listed with the shortcut assignment of Command+<.  
Either press return to bring up the Thesaurus window for the highlighted word, 
or use the Command+< shortcut.  You can press escape to dismiss the Thesaurus 
window.  The shortcut or the service menu entry for "Look up selection in 
Thesaurus" will not show up unless you have first selected a wo
 rd.  This works in all the regular applications such as TextEdit, Mail, etc.

Welcome to the list.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 17, 2011, at 17:26, Paula Hobley wrote:

> I had a look at transmit.  All I want 2 be able to do is get some material 
> off an ftp site.  It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount 
> that I need to be able to do with it.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion though.
> 
> Take care
> 
> Paula
> 
> On 18/12/2011, at 2:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until 
>> the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well.
>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Karen
>>> 
>>> I will do this.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1smart...@cox.net wrote:
>>> 
 Try Transmit. Very easy to use.
 
 Karen
 
 - Original Message - From: "Paula Hobley" 
 
 To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
 Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM
 Subject: accessible FTP client
 
 
> Hi there
> 
> 
> 
> I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
> find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Paula
> 
> 

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Re: Discover music application

[Paula Hobley]

Which forums can I sign up for?

Thanks for your help.

Paula

On 18/12/2011, at 2:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Yeah you can only ask for a refund once. and that sucks. but there ya go.
> 
> Look for a contact link if you can and if not sign up for the forums if you 
> can do that.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> I've had a look at the support page, and I can't find a spot where I can 
>> contact the developer.  This is all new to me and am still getting my head 
>> around it.  Apple refunded my money for another app but told me they would 
>> not be able to do this if applications weren't accessible, but suggested I 
>> contact the developers.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> On 18/12/2011, at 12:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Paula!
>>> First welcome to the list!
>>> I do believe  that you might be able to get money back!
>>> I think the procedure is to contact the dev!
>>> And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something 
>>> like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money!
>>> hth Colin!
>>> 
>>> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there
 
 I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is
 accessible?  I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app
 but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple
 doesn't refund your money.
 
 Thanks for your help with this.
 
 Cheers
 
 Paula
 
 
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Re: accessible FTP client

[Paula Hobley]

I had a look at transmit.  All I want 2 be able to do is get some material off 
an ftp site.  It's probably a little too expensive for the small amount that I 
need to be able to do with it.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Take care

Paula

On 18/12/2011, at 2:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until 
> the next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Karen
>> 
>> I will do this.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Paula
>> On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1smart...@cox.net wrote:
>> 
>>> Try Transmit. Very easy to use.
>>> 
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Paula Hobley" 
>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM
>>> Subject: accessible FTP client
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi there
 
 
 
 I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
 find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
 
 
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Paula
 
 
 
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Sarah Alawami]

Hmm that's interesting. maybe in a few years. You never know. You just never 
know.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Glenn wrote:

> I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left 
> and dad on right, for example.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> 
> 
> Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference 
> in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but 
> some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:
> 
>> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it
>> just as Bryan did.
>> Glenn
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>> 
>> 
>> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll
>> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then
>> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face 
>> thing
>> and I hope it improves with time.
>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall
>>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely
>>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>> 
>>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and
>>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera
>>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app
>>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
>>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing
>>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one
>>> of my standard off-center photos.
>>> 
>>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top
>>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face,
>>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
>>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
>>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>>> 
>>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I
>>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>> 
>>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but
>>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be
>>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>> 
>>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bryan
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Re: Discover music application

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah you can only ask for a refund once. and that sucks. but there ya go.

Look for a contact link if you can and if not sign up for the forums if you can 
do that.

Good luck.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> I've had a look at the support page, and I can't find a spot where I can 
> contact the developer.  This is all new to me and am still getting my head 
> around it.  Apple refunded my money for another app but told me they would 
> not be able to do this if applications weren't accessible, but suggested I 
> contact the developers.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Take care
> 
> Paula
> 
> On 18/12/2011, at 12:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paula!
>> First welcome to the list!
>> I do believe  that you might be able to get money back!
>> I think the procedure is to contact the dev!
>> And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something 
>> like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money!
>> hth Colin!
>> 
>> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> 
>>> I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is
>>> accessible?  I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app
>>> but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple
>>> doesn't refund your money.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help with this.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
>>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
>>> 
>>> Welcome to the list!
>>> 
>>> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
 Hello everybody
 
 It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
>>> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
>>> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
 Paula Hobley
 to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
>>> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
>>> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
 
 In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
>>> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
>>> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
>>> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
>>> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
>>> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
>>> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
>>> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
 
 Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
>>> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
>>> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
>>> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
>>> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
>>> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
>>> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
>>> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
>>> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
>>> and Mac OS discussion forum.
 
 If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
>>> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or
>>> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
>>> Robertson,  or Donal
>>> FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help
>>> you.
 
 Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
>>> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
 
 Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
>>> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
>>> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
 
 If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
>>> listing of the books available please visit:
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
 
 Lynne
 
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Re: accessible FTP client

[Sarah Alawami]

I also use transmit and it's very well worth the price. I can't wait until the 
next major release when ever that is. and the dev is wonderful as well.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Thanks Karen
> 
> I will do this.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paula
> On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1smart...@cox.net wrote:
> 
>> Try Transmit. Very easy to use.
>> 
>> Karen
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Paula Hobley" 
>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM
>> Subject: accessible FTP client
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
>>> find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: accessible FTP client

[Paula Hobley]

Thanks Karen

I will do this.

Cheers

Paula
On 18/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, 1smart...@cox.net wrote:

> Try Transmit. Very easy to use.
> 
> Karen
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paula Hobley" 
> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM
> Subject: accessible FTP client
> 
> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
>> find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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Re: Discover music application

[Paula Hobley]

Hi there

I've had a look at the support page, and I can't find a spot where I can 
contact the developer.  This is all new to me and am still getting my head 
around it.  Apple refunded my money for another app but told me they would not 
be able to do this if applications weren't accessible, but suggested I contact 
the developers.

Thanks for your help.

Take care

Paula

On 18/12/2011, at 12:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Paula!
> First welcome to the list!
> I do believe  that you might be able to get money back!
> I think the procedure is to contact the dev!
> And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something 
> like that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money!
> hth Colin!
> 
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is
>> accessible?  I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app
>> but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple
>> doesn't refund your money.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help with this.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
>> 
>> Welcome to the list!
>> 
>> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
>>> Hello everybody
>>> 
>>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
>> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
>> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>>> Paula Hobley
>>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
>> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
>> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>>> 
>>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
>> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
>> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
>> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
>> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
>> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
>> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
>> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>>> 
>>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
>> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
>> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
>> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
>> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
>> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
>> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
>> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
>> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
>> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>>> 
>>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
>> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or
>> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
>> Robertson,  or Donal
>> FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help
>> you.
>>> 
>>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
>> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>>> 
>>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
>> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
>> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>>> 
>>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
>> listing of the books available please visit:
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>>> 
>>> Lynne
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: New Member Welcome and question about Pages

[Paula Hobley]

Thanks so much for that Colin, I shall try this and see how I go.

I hope you are having a good day.

Cheers

Paula
On 18/12/2011, at 12:36 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Paula!
> To open and close the inspector use the command!
> Command+option+I
> And press again to close!
> Hth Colin
> 
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:37, Paula Hobley wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> Thank you for the very warm welcome.  I'm a total novice when it comes to
>> the mac, although I am learning.  I just purchased a MacBook Pro 2 weeks
>> ago.  I was wondering, I have purchased pages.  When I am in a pages
>> document and bring up the inspector to get a word count of my document, I
>> can't get rid of the inspector screen and I can't use my document.  I have
>> tried pressing escape, and I have tried closing the document and exiting and
>> re-entering pages and don't have any joy.  Does anybody know how to fix this
>> issue?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne &
>> Tracy
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:39 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: New Member Welcome
>> 
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
>> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
>> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>> Paula Hobley
>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
>> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
>> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>> 
>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
>> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
>> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
>> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
>> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
>> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
>> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
>> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>> 
>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
>> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
>> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
>> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
>> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
>> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
>> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
>> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
>> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
>> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>> 
>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
>> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or
>> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
>>  or Donal FitzPatrick., 
>> and we will be happy to help you.
>> 
>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
>> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>> 
>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access.
>> members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
>> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>> 
>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
>> listing of the books available please visit:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
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>> 
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>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: accessible FTP client

[1smart...@cox.net]

Try Transmit. Very easy to use.

Karen

- Original Message - 
From: "Paula Hobley" 

To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:37 PM
Subject: accessible FTP client



Hi there



I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?



Thanks for your help.



Cheers



Paula



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Re: New Member Welcome and question about Pages

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Paula!
To open and close the inspector use the command!
Command+option+I
And press again to close!
Hth Colin

On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:37, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> Thank you for the very warm welcome.  I'm a total novice when it comes to
> the mac, although I am learning.  I just purchased a MacBook Pro 2 weeks
> ago.  I was wondering, I have purchased pages.  When I am in a pages
> document and bring up the inspector to get a word count of my document, I
> can't get rid of the inspector screen and I can't use my document.  I have
> tried pressing escape, and I have tried closing the document and exiting and
> re-entering pages and don't have any joy.  Does anybody know how to fix this
> issue?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne &
> Tracy
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:39 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: New Member Welcome
> 
> Hello everybody
> 
> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
> Paula Hobley
> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
> 
> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
> 
> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
> and Mac OS discussion forum.
> 
> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or
> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
>  or Donal FitzPatrick., 
> and we will be happy to help you.
> 
> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
> 
> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access.
> members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
> 
> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
> listing of the books available please visit:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
> 
> Lynne
> 
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> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to
> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: Discover music application

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Paula!
First welcome to the list!
I do believe  that you might be able to get money back!
I think the procedure is to contact the dev!
And ask if accessibility could be added and if they reply no or something like 
that then you can tell Apple and they should refund your money!
hth Colin!

On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:41, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is
> accessible?  I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app
> but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple
> doesn't refund your money.
> 
> Thanks for your help with this.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
> 
> Welcome to the list!
> 
> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>> Paula Hobley
>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>> 
>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>> 
>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>> 
>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or
> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
> Robertson,  or Donal
> FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help
> you.
>> 
>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>> 
>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>> 
>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
> listing of the books available please visit:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>> 
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
> mac-access@mac-access.net
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accessible FTP client

[Paula Hobley]

Hi there

 

I am looking for an accessible FTP client.  I have tried Yummy FTP but I
find it hard to use.  Does anybody have any suggestions?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Cheers

 

Paula

 

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RE: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app

[Paula Hobley]

I had a go at posting something about it.  I hope the information I provided
is correct.  It showed up in my twitter as being posted but I didn't provide
a lot of info about it.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 9:17 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app

Go to www.applevis.com and follow the instructions. You should create an 
account before doing so but if you skip this you can post as an 
unregistered member and the moderators will approve the review before it 
gets posted publicly.

On 17/12/2011 21:42, Paula Hobley wrote:
> Hi there
> I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins
> Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible.  I thought one of
you
> might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible
> applications.  I don't know how to do this.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paula
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
> To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
>
> Welcome to the list!
>
> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne&  Tracy wrote:
>> Hello everybody
>>
>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email
forum
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>> Paula Hobley
>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
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>>
>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of
the
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope
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> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
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> and Mac OS discussion forum.
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> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at,
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> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
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> FitzPatrick.,   and we will be happy to help
> you.
>>
>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
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Discover music application

[Paula Hobley]

Hi there

I was wondering, does anybody know if the discover music application is
accessible?  I love to discover new artists and this looks like a good app
but don't want to pay the money if it isn't accessible seeing as Apple
doesn't refund your money.

Thanks for your help with this.

Cheers

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: New Member Welcome

Welcome to the list!

On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
> Hello everybody
>
> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
> Paula Hobley
> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>
> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
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with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
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>
> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
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configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
and Mac OS discussion forum.
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either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or
one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
Robertson,  or Donal
FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help
you.
>
> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>
> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
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RE: New Member Welcome and question about Pages

[Paula Hobley]

Hi there

Thank you for the very warm welcome.  I'm a total novice when it comes to
the mac, although I am learning.  I just purchased a MacBook Pro 2 weeks
ago.  I was wondering, I have purchased pages.  When I am in a pages
document and bring up the inspector to get a word count of my document, I
can't get rid of the inspector screen and I can't use my document.  I have
tried pressing escape, and I have tried closing the document and exiting and
re-entering pages and don't have any joy.  Does anybody know how to fix this
issue?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

Paula


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne &
Tracy
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:39 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: New Member Welcome

Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
Paula Hobley
to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
friendly and worthwhile place to be.

In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.

Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
and Mac OS discussion forum.

If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or
one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
 or Donal FitzPatrick., 
and we will be happy to help you.

Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.

Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access.
members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.

If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Glenn]

I wonder if it will lead to facial recognition, so it will say mom on left 
and dad on right, for example.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder


Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference 
in Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but 
some people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:

> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it
> just as Bryan did.
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
>
>
> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll
> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then
> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face 
> thing
> and I hope it improves with time.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall
>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely
>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>>
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and
>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera
>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app
>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and
>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing
>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one
>> of my standard off-center photos.
>>
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top
>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face,
>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face
>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced,
>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>>
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I
>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>>
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but
>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be
>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>>
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
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RE: Xmas treats

[Paula Hobley]

Are there any other good games for the IPhone I can find.  I have Dimentions
of the Universe but I can't figuire out how to play it.  I think I must be a
bit technologically challenged or something.


Take care

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 9:16 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Xmas treats

Papa Sangre will be my treat either from my own credit or from someone's 
ID whose app has been bought already.

On 17/12/2011 21:50, Paula Hobley wrote:
> Something fun from the app store could be a good Xmas treat I think, or
> something self-endulgent. :)
>
> Enjoy whatever you treat yourself too.
>
> Paula
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:46 AM
> To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
>
> lol cheers paula.
>
> it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a
> minute with me. as well as some IT work to do.
>
> christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though.
> haven't decided what to treat myself to yet.
>
> lew
>
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote:
>
>> Hi Lew
>>
>> Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always
>> welcome.  Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions.  You have a
>> lovely Xmas too.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> Paula
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM
>> To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
>>
>> Hi Pula,
>>
>> welcome to our inner sanctum.
>>
>> tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh
>> selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts.
>>
>> pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they
>> are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help.
>>
>> all the best and a merry christmas.
>>
>> lew
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne&  Tracy wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everybody
>>>
>>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email
> forum
>> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
>> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>>> Paula Hobley
>>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
>> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a
pleasant,
>> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>>>
>>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety
of
>> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
>> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but
> have
>> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
>> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
>> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured,
there
>> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
>> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>>>
>>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
>> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
>> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of
> the
>> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or
any
>> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
>> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
>> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope
> this
>> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
>> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an
iOS
>> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>>>
>>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
>> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at,
> or
>> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
>>   or Donal FitzPatrick.,
> 
>> and we will be happy to help you.
>>>
>>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find
your
>> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>>>
>>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
>> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your
> Mac
>> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>>>
>>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For
a
>> listing of the books available please visit:
>>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>>>
>>> Lynne
>>>
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>>>
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
>> mac-access@ma

Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in 
Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but some 
people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:

> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it 
> just as Bryan did.
> Glenn
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> 
> 
> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll 
> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then 
> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing 
> and I hope it improves with time.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely 
>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>> 
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and 
>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera 
>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app 
>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one 
>> of my standard off-center photos.
>> 
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, 
>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>> 
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>> 
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>> 
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
>> 
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>> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Apropos of this thread, I saw a lovely app at the recent Assets conference in 
Dundee which assisted blind photography.  Hasn't been released yet but some 
people are doing some very interesting things in this domain.
On 17 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Glenn wrote:

> I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it 
> just as Bryan did.
> Glenn
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder
> 
> 
> lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll 
> have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then 
> what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing 
> and I hope it improves with time.
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
>> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely 
>> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>> 
>> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and 
>> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera 
>> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app 
>> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
>> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
>> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one 
>> of my standard off-center photos.
>> 
>> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
>> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
>> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
>> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, 
>> "One face, large face, face centered."
>> 
>> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
>> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>> 
>> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
>> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
>> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>> 
>> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Glenn]

I have an iPhone 4, and it has worked flawlessly since I stumbled upon it 
just as Bryan did.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder


lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll 
have better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then 
what ever is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing 
and I hope it improves with time.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely 
> by accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
>
> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and 
> the cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera 
> at arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app 
> on my iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and 
> back-facing camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing 
> lens aimed in the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one 
> of my standard off-center photos.
>
> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face 
> centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, 
> "One face, large face, face centered."
>
> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I 
> also tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
>
> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be 
> part of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
>
> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
>
> Cheers,
> Bryan
>
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Re: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app

[chris hallsworth]

Go to www.applevis.com and follow the instructions. You should create an 
account before doing so but if you skip this you can post as an 
unregistered member and the moderators will approve the review before it 
gets posted publicly.


On 17/12/2011 21:42, Paula Hobley wrote:

Hi there
I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins
Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible.  I thought one of you
might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible
applications.  I don't know how to do this.

Thanks

Paula

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: New Member Welcome

Welcome to the list!

On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne&  Tracy wrote:

Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum

that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:

Paula Hobley
to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing

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FitzPatrick.,   and we will be happy to help
you.


Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your

membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.


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Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
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Re: Xmas treats

[chris hallsworth]

Papa Sangre will be my treat either from my own credit or from someone's 
ID whose app has been bought already.


On 17/12/2011 21:50, Paula Hobley wrote:

Something fun from the app store could be a good Xmas treat I think, or
something self-endulgent. :)

Enjoy whatever you treat yourself too.

Paula


-Original Message-
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:46 AM
To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: New Member Welcome

lol cheers paula.

it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a
minute with me. as well as some IT work to do.

christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though.
haven't decided what to treat myself to yet.

lew

On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote:


Hi Lew

Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always
welcome.  Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions.  You have a
lovely Xmas too.

Take care

Paula


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM
To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: New Member Welcome

Hi Pula,

welcome to our inner sanctum.

tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh
selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts.

pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they
are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help.

all the best and a merry christmas.

lew

On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne&  Tracy wrote:


Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email

forum

that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:

Paula Hobley
to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing

globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
friendly and worthwhile place to be.


In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of

skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but

have

a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.


Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of

virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of

the

virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope

this

clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
and Mac OS discussion forum.


If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact

either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at,

or

one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
  or Donal FitzPatrick.,



and we will be happy to help you.


Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your

membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.


Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all

Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your

Mac

publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.


If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a

listing of the books available please visit:

http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog

Lynne

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[chris hallsworth]

I can't get it to work either. It says autofocus but that's about it.

On 17/12/2011 21:55, Sarah Alawami wrote:

lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have 
better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then  what ever 
is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope 
it improves with time.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:


Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.

I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the cat 
purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's 
length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iPhone 4 
running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, 
held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general 
direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.

. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit 
and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, 
"face centered." Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, 
face centered."

I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
tried this in video mode but VO was silent.

Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could 
not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this 
experiment and ran off somewhere.

I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing.

Cheers,
Bryan

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Re: VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Sarah Alawami]

lol. I can hardly get that  to work in ios 5 on my iPhone 4 but maybe I'll have 
better luck with my 4s when I get it in june. or if not the 4s then  what ever 
is out there by then. I've heard good things about this face thing and I hope 
it improves with time.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
> knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
> accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.
> 
> I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the 
> cat purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at 
> arm's length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my 
> iPhone 4 running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing 
> camera, held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in 
> the general direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard 
> off-center photos.
> 
> . Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top 
> edge." I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, 
> near left edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." 
> Then I moved the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large 
> face, face centered." 
> 
> I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
> tried this in video mode but VO was silent.
> 
> Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but 
> could not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part 
> of this experiment and ran off somewhere.
> 
> I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Bryan
> 
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Re: Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app

[Sarah Alawami]

All you need to do is create an account and then post a app review following 
the prompts.

Take care.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Hi there
> I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins
> Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible.  I thought one of you
> might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible
> applications.  I don't know how to do this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Paula
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
> 
> Welcome to the list!
> 
> On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>> Paula Hobley
>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>> 
>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>> 
>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>> 
>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or
> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
> Robertson,  or Donal
> FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help
> you.
>> 
>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>> 
>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>> 
>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
> listing of the books available please visit:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>> 
>> Lynne
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Xmas treats

[Paula Hobley]

Something fun from the app store could be a good Xmas treat I think, or
something self-endulgent. :)

Enjoy whatever you treat yourself too.

Paula


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Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 8:46 AM
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lol cheers paula.

it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a
minute with me. as well as some IT work to do.

christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though.
haven't decided what to treat myself to yet.

lew

On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Hi Lew
> 
> Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always
> welcome.  Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions.  You have a
> lovely Xmas too.
> 
> Take care
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
> 
> Hi Pula, 
> 
> welcome to our inner sanctum.
> 
> tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh
> selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts.
> 
> pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they
> are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help.
> 
> all the best and a merry christmas.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
> 
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email
forum
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>> Paula Hobley
>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>> 
>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but
have
> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>> 
>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of
the
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope
this
> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>> 
>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at ,
or
> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
>  or Donal FitzPatrick.,

> and we will be happy to help you.
>> 
>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>> 
>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your
Mac
> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>> 
>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
> listing of the books available please visit:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>> 
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
> mac-access@mac-access.net
>> 
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> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>> 
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> and worm-free!
>> 
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>> 
> 
> Mr. L. Alexander.
> Free Macs For The Bl

Re: New Member Welcome

[Lewis Alexander]

lol cheers paula.

it's going to be a busy one to be honest. the charity doesn't rest for a minute 
with me. as well as some IT work to do.

christmas shopping just done, some christmas presents to pick up though. 
haven't decided what to treat myself to yet.

lew

On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:38, Paula Hobley wrote:

> Hi Lew
> 
> Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always
> welcome.  Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions.  You have a
> lovely Xmas too.
> 
> Take care
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: New Member Welcome
> 
> Hi Pula, 
> 
> welcome to our inner sanctum.
> 
> tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh
> selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts.
> 
> pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they
> are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help.
> 
> all the best and a merry christmas.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
> 
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
>> Paula Hobley
>> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>> 
>> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
> other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>> 
>> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
> and Mac OS discussion forum.
>> 
>> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or
> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
>  or Donal FitzPatrick., 
> and we will be happy to help you.
>> 
>> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>> 
>> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
> Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>> 
>> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
> listing of the books available please visit:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>> 
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
> mac-access@mac-access.net
>> 
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> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>> 
>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>> .
>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
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>> 
>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus
> and worm-free!
>> 
>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting
> the list website at:
>> 
> 
> Mr. L. Alexander.
> Free Macs For The Blind.
> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
> Direct line: 07936 877500
> Twitter: @macsfortheblind
> 
> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working
> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR
> FREE!
> 
> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a
> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing 

Collins Thesaurus of the English Language inaccessible app

[Paula Hobley]

Hi there
I just thought I would let you all know that the application "Collins
Thesaurus of the English Language" is not accessible.  I thought one of you
might like to post this on the apple-vis directory of accessible
applications.  I don't know how to do this.

Thanks

Paula

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 7:51 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: New Member Welcome

Welcome to the list!

On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:
> Hello everybody
>
> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
> Paula Hobley
> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
friendly and worthwhile place to be.
>
> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
>
> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
and Mac OS discussion forum.
>
> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at, or
one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne
Robertson,  or Donal
FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help
you.
>
> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
>
> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
>
> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
listing of the books available please visit:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
>
> Lynne
>
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>
> To reply to this post, please address your message to
mac-access@mac-access.net
>
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RE: New Member Welcome

[Paula Hobley]

Hi Lew

Hahaha :) thank you, rtea,coffee, chocolates and biscuits are always
welcome.  Rest assured, I will have many daft Mac questions.  You have a
lovely Xmas too.

Take care

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Alexander
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 6:42 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: New Member Welcome

Hi Pula, 

welcome to our inner sanctum.

tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh
selection of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts.

pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they
are. We're a fun bunch and always happy to help.

all the best and a merry christmas.

lew

On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum
that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping
with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
> Paula Hobley
> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant,
friendly and worthwhile place to be.
> 
> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of
skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers
with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have
a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen
enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and
constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there
will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in
other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
> 
> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of
virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The
exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the
virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this
clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's
Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS
and Mac OS discussion forum.
> 
> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact
either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or
one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson,
 or Donal FitzPatrick., 
and we will be happy to help you.
> 
> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your
membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
> 
> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all
Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac
publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
> 
> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a
listing of the books available please visit:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
> 
> Lynne
> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to
mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum
at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> 
> or at the public Mail Archive:
> .
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
> 
> 
> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus
and worm-free!
> 
> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting
the list website at:
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Mr. L. Alexander.
Free Macs For The Blind.
E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
Direct line: 07936 877500
Twitter: @macsfortheblind

Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working
apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR
FREE!

Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a
copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.

Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to
help anybody disabled with anything Apple!
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VO helping me center a face in my iPhone's viewfinder

[Bryan Jones]

Hi Folks,

I imagine most of you already know about this feature, but I don't recall 
knowing about it until this afternoon when I stumbled upon it completely by 
accident. I think this is pretty darn cool.

I was lying on the floor with the dog snoring against my left  side and the cat 
purring against my right, so I thought I'd hold the iPhone camera at arm's 
length and try to snap a photo. I launched the native camera app on my iphone 4 
running IOS 5, put it in photo mode with auto flash and back-facing camera, 
held it straight in front of me with the back-facing lens aimed in the general 
direction of my face, and prepared to snap one of my standard off-center photos.

. Next thing I knew, VO started saying," One face, small face, near top edge." 
I tilted the iPhone a bit and VO announced, "One face, small face, near left 
edge. I kept tilting the phone until VO announce, "face centered." Then I moved 
the camera closer to my face and VO announced, "One face, large face, face 
centered." 

I then switched cameras to the front camera and got the same results. I also 
tried this in video mode but VO was silent.

Lastly, I tried aiming the back facing camera at my Black Lab's face but could 
not get VO to recognize her. The cat decided she didn't want to be part of this 
experiment and ran off somewhere.

I wonder what other IOS accessibility marvels I'm missing. 

Cheers,
Bryan

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Re: New Member Welcome

[chris hallsworth]

Welcome to the list!

On 17/12/2011 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:

Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that 
Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that 
tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
Paula Hobley
to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing 
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant, 
friendly and worthwhile place to be.

In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill 
levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with 
advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen 
interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We 
hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, 
whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the 
ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of 
behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.

Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of 
virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the 
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the 
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any 
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception 
to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. 
This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the 
position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications 
are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS and Mac OS discussion 
forum.

If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, 
(the list owners), at, or one of our very capable assistant list 
controllers; Anne Robertson,  or Donal 
FitzPatrick.,  and we will be happy to help you.

Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your 
membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.

Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. 
members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, 
published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.

If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a 
listing of the books available please visit:
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog

Lynne

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Re: New Member Welcome

[Lewis Alexander]

Hi Pula, 

welcome to our inner sanctum.

tea and coffee making facilities are always available, with a fresh selection 
of chocolate, biscuits and other comforts.

pleas feel free to ask any questions mac related, no matter how daft they are. 
We're a fun bunch and always happy to help.

all the best and a merry christmas.

lew

On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:39, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum 
> that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping 
> with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
> Paula Hobley
> to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing 
> globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant, 
> friendly and worthwhile place to be.
> 
> In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of 
> skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers 
> with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have 
> a keen interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen 
> enthusiasts. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and 
> constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there 
> will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other 
> groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.
> 
> Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of 
> virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the 
> configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the 
> virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any 
> other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The 
> exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the 
> virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this 
> clarifies the position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's 
> Windows applications are off topic for this group. This is strictly an iOS 
> and Mac OS discussion forum.
> 
> If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact 
> either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or 
> one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, 
>  or Donal FitzPatrick.,  
> and we will be happy to help you.
> 
> Once again Paula, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your 
> membership an enjoyable, instructive and stimulating experience.
> 
> Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. 
> members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac 
> publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.
> 
> If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a 
> listing of the books available please visit:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
> 
> Lynne
> 
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> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
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> or at the public Mail Archive:
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> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
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> 
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> worm-free!
> 
> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting 
> the list website at:
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Mr. L. Alexander.
Free Macs For The Blind.
E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
Direct line: 07936 877500
Twitter: @macsfortheblind

Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple 
macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!

Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.

Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help 
anybody disabled with anything Apple!
http://www.mac-access.net

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New Member Welcome

[Gordon, Lynne & Tracy]

Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that 
Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that 
tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
Paula Hobley
to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing 
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant, 
friendly and worthwhile place to be.

In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill 
levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with 
advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen 
interest; and those who only use iOS devices but who are keen enthusiasts. We 
hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, 
whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the 
ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of 
behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.

Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of 
virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the 
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the 
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any 
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception 
to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. 
This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the 
position. We should also make clear the fact that Apple's Windows applications 
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Re: premium voice again ios five

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Ok. leave  it plugged in the computer. I get mine all the time that way, when I 
decide to use it lol! I have compact voice on  as it is better for me. lol! it 
moght take from  a few minutes to an hour depending on how big the voice is. It 
is 300 mb at least.
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> i do but nothing happening 
> 
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>>> yet even with my default language of english andcompact  voice off, nothing 
>>> changing?
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Re: premium voice again ios five

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i do but nothing happening 

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Re: premium voice again ios five

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You also need to plug it in to power like the computer or the wall.

Take care.
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Re: premium voice again ios five

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do i need wifi on as well 
at the moment nothing happening

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> I think the Wi-Fi  sync only syncs content that is already in your Library. 
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>>> downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library.
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hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, 
 yet even with my default language of english andcompact  voice off, 
 nothing changing?
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Re: premium voice again ios five

[Ian McNamara]

hi i've managed to get apps with out connecting my iphone to itunes since 
having i o s five. ho by the way all i've now got an iphone fours and i love it 
to bits.

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Re: premium voice again ios five

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I think the Wi-Fi  sync only syncs content that is already in your Library. 

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>> think that the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the 
>> downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library.
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>>> yet even with my default language of english andcompact  voice off, nothing 
>>> changing?
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Re: premium voice again ios five

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oh i thought had plug in to mains not the computer

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> downloading of content that is not already in your iTunes Library.
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>> changing?
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Re: premium voice again ios five

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Hi Will,

I could be wrong about this, but I think you need to be plugged directly to the 
Mac with your USB cable, as the download comes from iTunes. I do not think that 
the Wi-Fi sync capabilities of IOS 5+ do not extend to the downloading of 
content that is not already in your iTunes Library.

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hi all i have my iphone 4 running 5.01 wifi on and connected to mains, 
yet even with my default language of english andcompact  voice off, nothing 
changing?
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