Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.

2014-12-14 Thread michael's mail box

Okay thanks for that Shaun.
Cheers michael..

-Original Message- 
From: Shaun Oliver

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 4:16 PM
To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.

Hi mate,

As the 5c isn't a 64 byt phone, you won't be able to use the Alex voice.

The 5S 6 and 6 plus, are all 64 byt phones.
Also the iPad air and iPad mini with retner display are all 64 byt devices.
Thus, you'll be able to use Alex on those devices.

Hth
Shaun


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael's mail boxl
Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 14:47
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Subject: [Mac-access]: question about voices.

Hi guys I was trying to get Alex on my iphone 5c
But I can not even find him under US  english their is only a default one
and a better quality voice.
Any help will be good.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.

2014-12-14 Thread michael's mail box
Okay thank you Sarah since you are very smart and up to date could you 
please help with my Mac book.
I just updated it today and i find the right option key does not work with 
apple scrips like to option s and m and t for time.

Can I get the right option key back thanks.
Cheers Michael.

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From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:26 PM
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.

This will only work on the  iphone 5s and higher as the archatecture of the 
processer won't' work.  It has to be a 64 bit processer. We have 32 bit.
On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:16 PM, michael's mail boxl 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi guys I was trying to get Alex on my iphone 5c
But I can not even find him under US  english their is only a default one
and a better quality voice.
Any help will be good.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.

2014-12-14 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi!
Ok just open Voiceover utility with VO+f5 then tab to “allow apple scripts to 
be controlled by voice over” check box and see if that is checked and if not 
check it!
If that is checked just press Command+8 to the commanders and select the 
keyboard tab and go through the options to see if the right option key is 
selected!
HTH Colin

On 14 Dec 2014, at 10:15, michael's mail box michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au 
wrote:

 Okay thank you Sarah since you are very smart and up to date could you please 
 help with my Mac book.
 I just updated it today and i find the right option key does not work with 
 apple scrips like to option s and m and t for time.
 Can I get the right option key back thanks.
 Cheers Michael.
 
 -Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:26 PM
 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.
 
 This will only work on the  iPhone 5s and higher as the archatecture of the 
 processor won't' work.  It has to be a 64 bit processor. We have 32 bit.
 On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:16 PM, michael's mail boxl 
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys I was trying to get Alex on my iPhone 5c
 But I can not even find him under US  english their is only a default one
 and a better quality voice.
 Any help will be good.
 Cheers Michael.
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Re: [Mac-access]: open emu accessibility

2014-12-14 Thread Sean Murphy
The biggest challenge here is finding those who have the skills to do what you 
want.


Personally, I would like to see people spend their time in making applications 
that get blind people jobs, then on games for entertainment when they are 
visually based in the first place. I appreciate the need for relaxation and 
some people like to play games to achieve this. But when there is so many new 
apps that are not accessible in the open source sector. This is one area that 
need to be addressed.

Sean 

On 12 Dec 2014, at 11:53 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 Hi all. I’ve found an emulator pack of sorts, that is one app with many 
 emulator cores within it. It is fairly accessible, with help tags in place of 
 labels, but the preferences tabs aren’t available at all to voiceover, either 
 in tabbing or the voiceover cursor. I hope that we can make this emulator 
 accessible, going as far as being able to either OCR the screen 
 automatically, with free OCR packages,  or grab text information right from 
 the rom. I really believe video games, as part of culture, could be made far 
 more accessible to blind people than has been seen so far, as shown by 
 “accessible mario” attempts, and even a Chrono Trigger project, for windows 
 of course, that seeks to make Chrono Trigger accessible. Now, with open 
 source projects like open emu for the mac, we can take advantage of this and 
 make video games work for us. Of course, this will probably not happen, but 
 it’s worth a try to see how many blind developers, or sighted ones who could 
 help, would help us. The Open-emu staff may or may not be willing to help, 
 but seeing as it’s all open source, we could make a fork of it anyway, with 
 or without their help. At least we could make the application accessible, at 
 most we could make some games accessible, like text of story-lines and such. 
 Then we could have Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy, and the host of them all, 
 accessible. We just need people willing to try and explore. Oh if only I knew 
 programming in depth, I’d gladly help a lot.
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Re: [Mac-access]: open emu accessibility

2014-12-14 Thread Sarah k Alawami
In the open source or free software movement world I doubt you will find such. 
For example I would not and cannot higher programmers as they do charge over a 
thousand dollars per few weeks to code and we as the blind cannot afford that. 
I know in my hobby of restoring furniture I would charge about $500 per item as 
big or bigger then a conventional bench to help cover supplies and labor. Same 
with programming so we really are on our own here.

Even so in my field of sound ingineering where software is barely now starting 
to be more accessible, it takes thousands and thousands of lines of code and 
programmers can expect to be paid over maybe $3000 and higher for their skills.

Blessings and happy Sunday
 On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 The biggest challenge here is finding those who have the skills to do what 
 you want.
 
 
 Personally, I would like to see people spend their time in making 
 applications that get blind people jobs, then on games for entertainment when 
 they are visually based in the first place. I appreciate the need for 
 relaxation and some people like to play games to achieve this. But when there 
 is so many new apps that are not accessible in the open source sector. This 
 is one area that need to be addressed.
 
 Sean 
 
 On 12 Dec 2014, at 11:53 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I’ve found an emulator pack of sorts, that is one app with many 
 emulator cores within it. It is fairly accessible, with help tags in place 
 of labels, but the preferences tabs aren’t available at all to voiceover, 
 either in tabbing or the voiceover cursor. I hope that we can make this 
 emulator accessible, going as far as being able to either OCR the screen 
 automatically, with free OCR packages,  or grab text information right from 
 the rom. I really believe video games, as part of culture, could be made far 
 more accessible to blind people than has been seen so far, as shown by 
 “accessible” attempts, and even a Chrono Trigger project, for windows of 
 course, that seeks to make Chrono Trigger accessible. Now, with open source 
 projects like open emu for the mac, we can take advantage of this and make 
 video games work for us. Of course, this will probably not happen, but it’s 
 worth a try to see how many blind developers, or sighted ones who could 
 help, would help us. The Open-emu staff may or may not be willing to help, 
 but seeing as it’s all open source, we could make a fork of it anyway, with 
 or without their help. At least we could make the application accessible, at 
 most we could make some games accessible, like text of story-lines and such. 
 Then we could have Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy, and the host of them all, 
 accessible. We just need people willing to try and explore. Oh if only I 
 knew programming in depth, I’d gladly help a lot.
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