Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.
Okay thanks for that Shaun. Cheers michael.. -Original Message- From: Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 4:16 PM To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices. Hi mate, As the 5c isn't a 64 byt phone, you won't be able to use the Alex voice. The 5S 6 and 6 plus, are all 64 byt phones. Also the iPad air and iPad mini with retner display are all 64 byt devices. Thus, you'll be able to use Alex on those devices. Hth Shaun -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael's mail boxl Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 14:47 To: help mac email list Subject: [Mac-access]: question about voices. Hi guys I was trying to get Alex on my iphone 5c But I can not even find him under US english their is only a default one and a better quality voice. Any help will be good. Cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.
Okay thank you Sarah since you are very smart and up to date could you please help with my Mac book. I just updated it today and i find the right option key does not work with apple scrips like to option s and m and t for time. Can I get the right option key back thanks. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:26 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices. This will only work on the iphone 5s and higher as the archatecture of the processer won't' work. It has to be a 64 bit processer. We have 32 bit. On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:16 PM, michael's mail boxl michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote: Hi guys I was trying to get Alex on my iphone 5c But I can not even find him under US english their is only a default one and a better quality voice. Any help will be good. Cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices.
Hi! Ok just open Voiceover utility with VO+f5 then tab to “allow apple scripts to be controlled by voice over” check box and see if that is checked and if not check it! If that is checked just press Command+8 to the commanders and select the keyboard tab and go through the options to see if the right option key is selected! HTH Colin On 14 Dec 2014, at 10:15, michael's mail box michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote: Okay thank you Sarah since you are very smart and up to date could you please help with my Mac book. I just updated it today and i find the right option key does not work with apple scrips like to option s and m and t for time. Can I get the right option key back thanks. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:26 PM To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about voices. This will only work on the iPhone 5s and higher as the archatecture of the processor won't' work. It has to be a 64 bit processor. We have 32 bit. On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:16 PM, michael's mail boxl michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote: Hi guys I was trying to get Alex on my iPhone 5c But I can not even find him under US english their is only a default one and a better quality voice. Any help will be good. Cheers Michael. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access EMail list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access EMail list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access EMail list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: open emu accessibility
The biggest challenge here is finding those who have the skills to do what you want. Personally, I would like to see people spend their time in making applications that get blind people jobs, then on games for entertainment when they are visually based in the first place. I appreciate the need for relaxation and some people like to play games to achieve this. But when there is so many new apps that are not accessible in the open source sector. This is one area that need to be addressed. Sean On 12 Dec 2014, at 11:53 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hi all. I’ve found an emulator pack of sorts, that is one app with many emulator cores within it. It is fairly accessible, with help tags in place of labels, but the preferences tabs aren’t available at all to voiceover, either in tabbing or the voiceover cursor. I hope that we can make this emulator accessible, going as far as being able to either OCR the screen automatically, with free OCR packages, or grab text information right from the rom. I really believe video games, as part of culture, could be made far more accessible to blind people than has been seen so far, as shown by “accessible mario” attempts, and even a Chrono Trigger project, for windows of course, that seeks to make Chrono Trigger accessible. Now, with open source projects like open emu for the mac, we can take advantage of this and make video games work for us. Of course, this will probably not happen, but it’s worth a try to see how many blind developers, or sighted ones who could help, would help us. The Open-emu staff may or may not be willing to help, but seeing as it’s all open source, we could make a fork of it anyway, with or without their help. At least we could make the application accessible, at most we could make some games accessible, like text of story-lines and such. Then we could have Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy, and the host of them all, accessible. We just need people willing to try and explore. Oh if only I knew programming in depth, I’d gladly help a lot. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: open emu accessibility
In the open source or free software movement world I doubt you will find such. For example I would not and cannot higher programmers as they do charge over a thousand dollars per few weeks to code and we as the blind cannot afford that. I know in my hobby of restoring furniture I would charge about $500 per item as big or bigger then a conventional bench to help cover supplies and labor. Same with programming so we really are on our own here. Even so in my field of sound ingineering where software is barely now starting to be more accessible, it takes thousands and thousands of lines of code and programmers can expect to be paid over maybe $3000 and higher for their skills. Blessings and happy Sunday On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: The biggest challenge here is finding those who have the skills to do what you want. Personally, I would like to see people spend their time in making applications that get blind people jobs, then on games for entertainment when they are visually based in the first place. I appreciate the need for relaxation and some people like to play games to achieve this. But when there is so many new apps that are not accessible in the open source sector. This is one area that need to be addressed. Sean On 12 Dec 2014, at 11:53 pm, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Hi all. I’ve found an emulator pack of sorts, that is one app with many emulator cores within it. It is fairly accessible, with help tags in place of labels, but the preferences tabs aren’t available at all to voiceover, either in tabbing or the voiceover cursor. I hope that we can make this emulator accessible, going as far as being able to either OCR the screen automatically, with free OCR packages, or grab text information right from the rom. I really believe video games, as part of culture, could be made far more accessible to blind people than has been seen so far, as shown by “accessible” attempts, and even a Chrono Trigger project, for windows of course, that seeks to make Chrono Trigger accessible. Now, with open source projects like open emu for the mac, we can take advantage of this and make video games work for us. Of course, this will probably not happen, but it’s worth a try to see how many blind developers, or sighted ones who could help, would help us. The Open-emu staff may or may not be willing to help, but seeing as it’s all open source, we could make a fork of it anyway, with or without their help. At least we could make the application accessible, at most we could make some games accessible, like text of story-lines and such. Then we could have Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy, and the host of them all, accessible. We just need people willing to try and explore. Oh if only I knew programming in depth, I’d gladly help a lot. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's