IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Diane Bomar
Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and have 
VO read it.

I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
4. 
In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I checked 
this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this out, 
I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that contains 
the word convert it is pronounced convela.

I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't know 
what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried it, 
and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.

I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I cannot 
imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.

Thanks,
Diane

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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
did you add a key board auto correct some ware? Go to settings, general, the 
keyboard, then to shortcuts.  Thats the only thing I could suggest for now. 

Take care.
On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
 I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
 4. 
 In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
 believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
 checked 
 this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
 out, 
 I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
 contains 
 the word convert it is pronounced convela.
 
 I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
 know 
 what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
 it, 
 and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
 
 I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
 cannot 
 imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane
 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Randy Stegall
I get convelot.
Randy Stegall
randy_steg...@att.net
I call Jesus “Lord”. He lives in me and I live in Him. He is my savior

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
 I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
 4. 
 In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
 believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
 checked 
 this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
 out, 
 I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
 contains 
 the word convert it is pronounced convela.
 
 I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
 know 
 what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
 it, 
 and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
 
 I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
 cannot 
 imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane
 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What voices are you guys using? I cannot test as I'm not updated.  Also are 
they hq or compact?

Take  care. 
On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Randy Stegall randy_steg...@att.net wrote:

 I get convelot.
 Randy Stegall
 randy_steg...@att.net
 I call Jesus “Lord”. He lives in me and I live in Him. He is my savior
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
 I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and 
 iPhone 4. 
 In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
 believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
 checked 
 this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
 out, 
 I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
 contains 
 the word convert it is pronounced convela.
 
 I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
 know 
 what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
 it, 
 and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
 
 I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
 cannot 
 imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane
 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Diane,

Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ voice 
on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I slowed the 
speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as conv a lot.”

Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian 
English  British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears.

Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com.

Cheers,
Bryan

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and have 
 VO read it.

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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I think the original poster  called apple accessibility and the guy could get 
the voice to say the word convert correctly. Let me know if I misunderstood the 
original post.
On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 Hello Diane,
 
 Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ 
 voice on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I slowed 
 the speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as conv a 
 lot.”
 
 Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian 
 English  British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears.
 
 Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com.
 
 Cheers,
 Bryan
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Juanita Martin
 VO mispronounces it even in the subject line.


sent from my phone
 


 On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
 I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
 4. 
 In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
 believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
 checked 
 this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
 out, 
 I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
 contains 
 the word convert it is pronounced convela.
 
 I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
 know 
 what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
 it, 
 and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
 
 I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
 cannot 
 imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane
 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Sarah,

Yes, I interpreted the OP the same as you did, which is why I suggest emailing 
Apple Accessibility rather than leaving it unresolved and unreplicated with 
their phone support staff.

Cheers,
Bryan

On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the original poster  called apple accessibility and the guy could get 
 the voice to say the word convert correctly. Let me know if I misunderstood 
 the original post.
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Diane,
 
 Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ 
 voice on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I 
 slowed the speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as 
 conv a lot.”
 
 Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian 
 English  British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears.
 
 Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com.
 
 Cheers,
 Bryan
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Glenn
Hi Diane,
Where are you typing this?
If it is in the app store, maybe it is showing an app of that name that is 
only available in IOS 7X.  I'll try it on mine later.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:19 PM
Subject: IOS7.1: convert v. convela


Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
have
VO read it.

I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and 
iPhone 4.
In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot
believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
checked
this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
out,
I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
contains
the word convert it is pronounced convela.

I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
know
what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
it,
and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.

I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
cannot
imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 
7.1.

Thanks,
Diane

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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Deb Lewis
Yes this is totally the case. I typed in the notes app, in a search screen, in 
email and got the same weird result every time. I don’t see how an agent could 
have gotten any different. I used mixed case, all lower case, quotes as you did 
int he message, etc. No difference.
It’s not a show stopper but it is weird.


On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
 I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and iPhone 
 4. 
 In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
 believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
 checked 
 this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
 out, 
 I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
 contains 
 the word convert it is pronounced convela.
 
 I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
 know 
 what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
 it, 
 and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
 
 I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
 cannot 
 imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane
 
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Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela

2014-03-30 Thread Sarah k Alawami
and the tech who heard this was not able to reproduce this on his own device? I 
wonder if he tested this with other voices as well? Just thinking out loud 
here. 

Take care.

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes this is totally the case. I typed in the notes app, in a search screen, 
 in email and got the same weird result every time. I don’t see how an agent 
 could have gotten any different. I used mixed case, all lower case, quotes as 
 you did int he message, etc. No difference.
 It’s not a show stopper but it is weird.
 
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Please type in the word convert   in search on an IIOS 7.1  device, and 
 have 
 VO read it.
 
 I  have done this with 3  separate users, on iPad mini, iPhone 4s, and 
 iPhone 4. 
 In all cases, VO says convela.  I realize this is very weird, and cannot 
 believe that it is true. Before upgrading to IOS7.1  on my iPhone 4s, I 
 checked 
 this out, and it was saying convert correctly. When I  have checked this 
 out, 
 I  have always added a space after the word. While reading text, that 
 contains 
 the word convert it is pronounced convela.
 
 I did call Apple about this, but the person I spoke with thought I didn't 
 know 
 what I was doing. I would have thought the same, in his position. He tried 
 it, 
 and I heard his device say it correctly . He claimed to be using 7.1.
 
 I feel pretty stupid even suggesting this as a possible issue, because I 
 cannot 
 imagine how it could have changed, from a sw perspective, from 7.0.6  to 7.1.
 
 Thanks,
 Diane
 
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