Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-15 Thread chris h (sky)

Hello all
just got this wonderful update to the app.
Haven't tried the Ocr function yet but have tried all I can do with the 
interface so far with excellent results.
One issue I have is with the Voice Reader feature. It tells me I can 
type or paste some text, then click the play button. But when I click 
the play button nothing happens. Do I need to buy more voices?
On the whole a wonderful update and I can't wait to put it through its 
paces with my posts etc.

Chris.

On 15/05/2013 05:50, Esther wrote:

Hi All,

Sorry for the last post that only clipped the price and URL information of version 2 of 
the Prizmo app.  I meant to add a few other enthusiastic comments.  Not only is it easier 
to do an OCR, because if VoiceOver is on, and the page size has been selected, the app 
will actually tell you when you are too far to the left or right or need to move your 
camera, but you can export the OCR results in either PDF or text and use the open 
in function for compatible apps.  Since I have VoiceDream reader, I can open the 
exported text in that app, and to go along with Prizmo's support of different languages, 
I can read the text in InfoVox voices for different languages. Also, although I'm not 
using this facility, you can adjust the font size of the text that you've exported either 
as PDF or Text format when you read in VoiceDream Reader, so this is really cool if 
you're a low-vision user.

So to follow up on my original post, if you've been sent scanned PDF images of 
documents from some bulk email distribution copying machine, you can read that 
perfectly well with the Prizmo app -- even on iOS devices without good cameras 
like the earlier iPod Touch models or earlier generation iPads.  And the export 
function works to put text into Dropbox, too. Plus you can store these 
documents in VoiceDream Reader, and read multiple language outputs, and use 
large fonts and highlighting.

Since Prizmo supports a whole set of new languages, you could probably even use 
this to read documents in some languages without supported voices, by copying 
the OCR text results to clipboard, and pasting into a translating app like 
Google Translate just to us the voice support for reading other languages.  I 
think someone asked about Hebrew voice support on the Mac, and that's one of 
the text languages Prizmo can OCR, and that Google Translate can read aloud.  
I'll have to fool around with the Russian language download for Prizmo and try 
it out.

Cheers,

Esther
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Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-15 Thread Josh Gregory
Yes, if you have no voices in the voice reader, you'll need to purchase some 
first. I have the same problem and unfortunately at the current time I do not 
have enough money in my iTunes account to buy voices.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2013, at 7:27 AM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:

 Hello all
 just got this wonderful update to the app.
 Haven't tried the Ocr function yet but have tried all I can do with the 
 interface so far with excellent results.
 One issue I have is with the Voice Reader feature. It tells me I can type or 
 paste some text, then click the play button. But when I click the play button 
 nothing happens. Do I need to buy more voices?
 On the whole a wonderful update and I can't wait to put it through its paces 
 with my posts etc.
 Chris.
 
 On 15/05/2013 05:50, Esther wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Sorry for the last post that only clipped the price and URL information of 
 version 2 of the Prizmo app.  I meant to add a few other enthusiastic 
 comments.  Not only is it easier to do an OCR, because if VoiceOver is on, 
 and the page size has been selected, the app will actually tell you when you 
 are too far to the left or right or need to move your camera, but you can 
 export the OCR results in either PDF or text and use the open in function 
 for compatible apps.  Since I have VoiceDream reader, I can open the 
 exported text in that app, and to go along with Prizmo's support of 
 different languages, I can read the text in InfoVox voices for different 
 languages. Also, although I'm not using this facility, you can adjust the 
 font size of the text that you've exported either as PDF or Text format when 
 you read in VoiceDream Reader, so this is really cool if you're a low-vision 
 user.
 
 So to follow up on my original post, if you've been sent scanned PDF images 
 of documents from some bulk email distribution copying machine, you can read 
 that perfectly well with the Prizmo app -- even on iOS devices without good 
 cameras like the earlier iPod Touch models or earlier generation iPads.  And 
 the export function works to put text into Dropbox, too. Plus you can store 
 these documents in VoiceDream Reader, and read multiple language outputs, 
 and use large fonts and highlighting.
 
 Since Prizmo supports a whole set of new languages, you could probably even 
 use this to read documents in some languages without supported voices, by 
 copying the OCR text results to clipboard, and pasting into a translating 
 app like Google Translate just to us the voice support for reading other 
 languages.  I think someone asked about Hebrew voice support on the Mac, and 
 that's one of the text languages Prizmo can OCR, and that Google Translate 
 can read aloud.  I'll have to fool around with the Russian language download 
 for Prizmo and try it out.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
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Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-15 Thread Esther
Hi Josh and Chris,

I never bothered to get additional voices to use the Voice reader within the 
Prizmo app, since I could use VoiceOver to review the material.  The OCR 
functions are only meant to temporarily store results. Version 1 of Prizmo did 
have the Voice Reader function, too.  It is still going to be easier for many 
people to use the StandScan Pro to quickly take pictures of documents to OCR, 
but I think that many more who found it difficult to use Prizmo freehand to 
take pictures of documents will find this possible.  It is still not a 
replacement for the KNFB reader setup, as I understand it, for automatically 
adjusting everything when you take a picture.

The voice activated picture taking feature of the first version is gone. So I 
am using a split tap to activate the shutter. They've added some kind of 
stabilizer mode for the process of starting the manual picture taking when you 
activate the shutter button above the home button, which is announced as Take 
Picture.  You don't just get an immediate shutter opening and closing. I did 
like the voice activation feature of the first version, where you could just 
say Take Picture, but this is more discreet, and doesn't have to drop 
VoiceOver's volume so you can get a good voice trigger.  I now put one finger 
on the Take Picture button and raise the iPhone, then tap the screen with 
another finger to trigger the shutter and picture taking.

While I can review the scanned material in the Prizmo app, I prefer to read the 
results as converted documents in another app.  The export options have an 
open in function that lets to send the file easily to other applications, 
including apps like Dropbox or, VoiceDream reader.  So I'm doing most of my 
reading in the VoiceDream reader app, with the InfoVox voices I purchased for 
that app.  I guess that if I needed to use the translate option, which I 
believe requires an internet connection, and read text in another language, I 
might use in-app purchases of voices for Prizmo.  But I think this is more of a 
convenience for people who don't already have VoiceOver turned on.  The voices 
are the Infovox/iVox voices from the Acapela group, but include a couple of 
voices that aren't available for the Mac, like Mandarin Chinese and Japanese. 
(These are all available in VoiceDream reader, along with a few Neospeech 
English voices.). Originally, I couldn't figure out why the Chinese
  and Japanese voices were added to version 2 of Prizmo when the app doesn't 
OCR these languages (unlike TextGrabber), but then I realized it was for 
translation support.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

 

On May 15, 2013, at 1:39 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, if you have no voices in the voice reader, you'll need to purchase some 
 first. I have the same problem and unfortunately at the current time I do not 
 have enough money in my iTunes account to buy voices.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 15, 2013, at 7:27 AM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com wrote:
 
 Hello all
 just got this wonderful update to the app.
 Haven't tried the Ocr function yet but have tried all I can do with the 
 interface so far with excellent results.
 One issue I have is with the Voice Reader feature. It tells me I can type or 
 paste some text, then click the play button. But when I click the play 
 button nothing happens. Do I need to buy more voices?
 On the whole a wonderful update and I can't wait to put it through its paces 
 with my posts etc.
 Chris.
 
 On 15/05/2013 05:50, Esther wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Sorry for the last post that only clipped the price and URL information of 
 version 2 of the Prizmo app.  I meant to add a few other enthusiastic 
 comments.  Not only is it easier to do an OCR, because if VoiceOver is on, 
 and the page size has been selected, the app will actually tell you when 
 you are too far to the left or right or need to move your camera, but you 
 can export the OCR results in either PDF or text and use the open in 
 function for compatible apps.  Since I have VoiceDream reader, I can open 
 the exported text in that app, and to go along with Prizmo's support of 
 different languages, I can read the text in InfoVox voices for different 
 languages. Also, although I'm not using this facility, you can adjust the 
 font size of the text that you've exported either as PDF or Text format 
 when you read in VoiceDream Reader, so this is really cool if you're a 
 low-vision user.
 
 So to follow up on my original post, if you've been sent scanned PDF images 
 of documents from some bulk email distribution copying machine, you can 
 read that perfectly well with the Prizmo app -- even on iOS devices without 
 good cameras like the earlier iPod Touch models or earlier generation 
 iPads.  And the export function works to put text into Dropbox, too. Plus 
 you can store these documents in VoiceDream Reader, and read multiple 
 language outputs, and use large fonts and highlighting.
 
 Since Prizmo 

Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-15 Thread Phil Halton
I just bought this app and used it on a typed letter. I find that the 
lighting is critical. after a third try in different lightings, I got near 
perfect OCR results. I found it best to put the white letter on a darker 
background for contrast, but I don't know if that was actually necessary. 
the voice directions for getting a good image are interesting too. A little 
weird at first, but they eventually focus you in on a good image.  the image 
stabilization that kicks in after clicking the take picture button seems 
to work well too.


- Original Message - 
From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99



Hi Josh and Chris,

I never bothered to get additional voices to use the Voice reader within 
the Prizmo app, since I could use VoiceOver to review the material.  The 
OCR functions are only meant to temporarily store results. Version 1 of 
Prizmo did have the Voice Reader function, too.  It is still going to be 
easier for many people to use the StandScan Pro to quickly take pictures 
of documents to OCR, but I think that many more who found it difficult to 
use Prizmo freehand to take pictures of documents will find this possible. 
It is still not a replacement for the KNFB reader setup, as I understand 
it, for automatically adjusting everything when you take a picture.


The voice activated picture taking feature of the first version is gone. 
So I am using a split tap to activate the shutter. They've added some kind 
of stabilizer mode for the process of starting the manual picture taking 
when you activate the shutter button above the home button, which is 
announced as Take Picture.  You don't just get an immediate shutter 
opening and closing. I did like the voice activation feature of the first 
version, where you could just say Take Picture, but this is more 
discreet, and doesn't have to drop VoiceOver's volume so you can get a 
good voice trigger.  I now put one finger on the Take Picture button and 
raise the iPhone, then tap the screen with another finger to trigger the 
shutter and picture taking.


While I can review the scanned material in the Prizmo app, I prefer to 
read the results as converted documents in another app.  The export 
options have an open in function that lets to send the file easily to 
other applications, including apps like Dropbox or, VoiceDream reader.  So 
I'm doing most of my reading in the VoiceDream reader app, with the 
InfoVox voices I purchased for that app.  I guess that if I needed to use 
the translate option, which I believe requires an internet connection, and 
read text in another language, I might use in-app purchases of voices for 
Prizmo.  But I think this is more of a convenience for people who don't 
already have VoiceOver turned on.  The voices are the Infovox/iVox voices 
from the Acapela group, but include a couple of voices that aren't 
available for the Mac, like Mandarin Chinese and Japanese. (These are all 
available in VoiceDream reader, along with a few Neospeech English 
voices.). Originally, I couldn't figure out why the Chinese
 and Japanese voices were added to version 2 of Prizmo when the app 
doesn't OCR these languages (unlike TextGrabber), but then I realized it 
was for translation support.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther



On May 15, 2013, at 1:39 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, if you have no voices in the voice reader, you'll need to purchase 
some first. I have the same problem and unfortunately at the current time 
I do not have enough money in my iTunes account to buy voices.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2013, at 7:27 AM, chris h (sky) challswor...@sky.com 
wrote:



Hello all
just got this wonderful update to the app.
Haven't tried the Ocr function yet but have tried all I can do with the 
interface so far with excellent results.
One issue I have is with the Voice Reader feature. It tells me I can 
type or paste some text, then click the play button. But when I click 
the play button nothing happens. Do I need to buy more voices?
On the whole a wonderful update and I can't wait to put it through its 
paces with my posts etc.

Chris.

On 15/05/2013 05:50, Esther wrote:

Hi All,

Sorry for the last post that only clipped the price and URL information 
of version 2 of the Prizmo app.  I meant to add a few other 
enthusiastic comments.  Not only is it easier to do an OCR, because if 
VoiceOver is on, and the page size has been selected, the app will 
actually tell you when you are too far to the left or right or need to 
move your camera, but you can export the OCR results in either PDF or 
text and use the open in function for compatible apps.  Since I have 
VoiceDream reader, I can open the exported text in that app, and to go 
along with Prizmo's support of different languages, I can read the text 
in InfoVox voices for different languages. 

Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hello All,

The new version 2 update of the Prizmo iOS OCR app is out, and the developers, 
Creaceed, have put this app on sale as part of its launch. Prizmo 2 is a free 
update for anyone who already bought the Prizmo iOS app.  The app normally 
lists for $9.99 but may be purchased for $5.99 for a limited time:
• Prizmo - Scanning, OCR, and Speech (on sale for $5.99) by Creaceed
https://itunes.apple.com/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8

I've already tried out one new feature that will make this app useful even if 
you never use this with a camera to take pictures of a document to OCR -- you 
can open scanned PDFs in this app and OCR their contents.  So if someone sends 
you PDF scanned documents as an attachment, you can just double tap on the 
attachment and select open in then choose Prizmo.  The multipage document 
shows up on the main screen and you just double tap to open it. You can double 
tap each page and then double tap the recognize button at the top right 
corner, and read the text results.  They've also simplified the work flow 
interface.  The PDFs can be produced by other apps or opened from file or web 
sources like Dropbox, etc. (I haven't tried this yet.)

If you want to take add images to a multipage document, there's and Add new 
page button.

In addition to the original 10 languages that were supported in version 1, 
(English, French, German, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Swedish, Danish 
and Norwegian).  You can get support for additional languages as free 
downloads: Afrikaans, Albanian, Basque, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Catalan, 
Croatian, Czech, Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, Galician, Hebrew, Hungarian, 
Icelandic, Indonesian, Korean, Latin, Latvian, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malay, 
Polish, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Swahili, Thai, Turkish, 
Ukrainian, and Vietnamese.

The Prizmo support web site documentation also mentioned that for accurate OCR 
from a device's camera image, at least a 3 megapixel camera is required.  Thus, 
in addition to iPhone support, they state that the cameras of the iPad 3, iPad 
4, and iPad mini, and the 5th generation iPod Touch can be used.  The built-in 
cameras of the 2nd generation iPad and the 4th generation iPod Touch are 1 
megapixel or less.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther




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Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-14 Thread Esther

On May 14, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Esther wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 The new version 2 update of the Prizmo iOS OCR app is out, and the 
 developers, Creaceed, have put this app on sale as part of its launch. Prizmo 
 2 is a free update for anyone who already bought the Prizmo iOS app.  The app 
 normally lists for $9.99 but may be purchased for $5.99 for a limited time:
 • Prizmo - Scanning, OCR, and Speech (on sale for $5.99) by Creaceed
 https://itunes.apple.com/app/prizmo/id366791896?mt=8

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Re: Prizmo version 2 iOS app is released and on sale for $5.99

2013-05-14 Thread Esther
Hi All,

Sorry for the last post that only clipped the price and URL information of 
version 2 of the Prizmo app.  I meant to add a few other enthusiastic comments. 
 Not only is it easier to do an OCR, because if VoiceOver is on, and the page 
size has been selected, the app will actually tell you when you are too far to 
the left or right or need to move your camera, but you can export the OCR 
results in either PDF or text and use the open in function for compatible 
apps.  Since I have VoiceDream reader, I can open the exported text in that 
app, and to go along with Prizmo's support of different languages, I can read 
the text in InfoVox voices for different languages. Also, although I'm not 
using this facility, you can adjust the font size of the text that you've 
exported either as PDF or Text format when you read in VoiceDream Reader, so 
this is really cool if you're a low-vision user.

So to follow up on my original post, if you've been sent scanned PDF images of 
documents from some bulk email distribution copying machine, you can read that 
perfectly well with the Prizmo app -- even on iOS devices without good cameras 
like the earlier iPod Touch models or earlier generation iPads.  And the export 
function works to put text into Dropbox, too. Plus you can store these 
documents in VoiceDream Reader, and read multiple language outputs, and use 
large fonts and highlighting.

Since Prizmo supports a whole set of new languages, you could probably even use 
this to read documents in some languages without supported voices, by copying 
the OCR text results to clipboard, and pasting into a translating app like 
Google Translate just to us the voice support for reading other languages.  I 
think someone asked about Hebrew voice support on the Mac, and that's one of 
the text languages Prizmo can OCR, and that Google Translate can read aloud.  
I'll have to fool around with the Russian language download for Prizmo and try 
it out.

Cheers,

Esther  
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