Re: Fwd: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-10 Thread Jeremiah Foster
 
 Another way to promote CB that I just thought of, why not get an  
 article in The Perl Review?  I know it's not a huge audience, but I  
 do know chromatic usually lists what's in the latest issue when he  
 puts out the O'Reilly Perl newsletter.
 I just thought of something else too, maybe an interview on  
 Perlcast?  I could ask Josh McAdams if he's interested in doing the  
 interview (or maybe we could arrange for someone to interview you).

Both are really good ideas. I spoke to brian d foy at Nordic Perl Workshop
at the end of April about writing an article for the Perl Review and he
seemed receptive. That is to say he welcomes articles, not that I should
write it since I don't know if I am qualified to write it.

Josh McAdams also was at the NPW and seems like a cool guy, Perlcast is 
growing in audience and this seems a perfect thing to do. 
 
Jeremiah


Fwd: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Yarrish

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Just figured out that this only went to Jeremiah.

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From: Tom Yarrish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 9, 2007 9:11:08 AM CDT
To: Jeremiah Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

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On May 9, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:

Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:25:35PM -0400:  Sherm Pendley mangled some  
bits into this alignment:

On May 7, 2007, at 6:23 AM, David Cantrell wrote:


On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Alex Robinson wrote:

 Why did the OS X loving  
bit of
the perl community sit by and let PyObjC become the default  
bridge.


Because the vast majority of perl people who moved to OS X did so
because it was Unix That Worked On A Laptop and not because it was
Mac.
Too many of us still sneer at anything non-Unix.


It's not just in Mac circles either - there's a very widespread
misconception that Perl is useful for system admins, web developers,
and little else. One thing I find personally frustrating is the
corollary, that Perl *programmers* must be admins or web devs. I  
find
that frustrating because I'm not an admin, and while I don't mind  
web

work, I don't want to focus on it exclusively.

So, what can be done to change that? It's basically a PR/evangelism
problem, which is well outside my area of expertise. Any  
suggestions?


One or two cool apps will help. Coda is an excellent example of  
creating
a buzz amongst creatives and developers. I also think Perl 6  
is going

to be really, really amazing but that may not directly aid CB, maybe
present it with its own set of problems. But it would be pretty  
cool if

CB had Perl 6 support and people could build OS X apps in Perl 6 with
Cocoa bindings, w00t.

Also the chattering classes, that is to say bloggers, of which I  
am an
ignominious member, need to promote CB, perl, and Mac OS X  
development in
general since OS X is a great platform for development and perl is  
a great

language and CB is the perfect tool, etc.

Jeremiah,





Another way to promote CB that I just thought of, why not get an  
article in The Perl Review?  I know it's not a huge audience, but I  
do know chromatic usually lists what's in the latest issue when he  
puts out the O'Reilly Perl newsletter.
I just thought of something else too, maybe an interview on  
Perlcast?  I could ask Josh McAdams if he's interested in doing the  
interview (or maybe we could arrange for someone to interview you).


Tom



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