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Just figured out that this only went to Jeremiah.....

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From: Tom Yarrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 9, 2007 9:11:08 AM CDT
To: Jeremiah Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

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On May 9, 2007, at 5:59 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:

Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:25:35PM -0400: Sherm Pendley mangled some bits into this alignment:
On May 7, 2007, at 6:23 AM, David Cantrell wrote:

On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Alex Robinson wrote:

Why did the OS X loving bit of the perl community sit by and let PyObjC become the default bridge.

Because the vast majority of perl people who moved to OS X did so
because it was Unix That Worked On A Laptop and not because it was
Mac.
Too many of us still sneer at anything non-Unix.

It's not just in Mac circles either - there's a very widespread
misconception that Perl is useful for system admins, web developers,
and little else. One thing I find personally frustrating is the
corollary, that Perl *programmers* must be admins or web devs. I find that frustrating because I'm not an admin, and while I don't mind web
work, I don't want to focus on it exclusively.

So, what can be done to change that? It's basically a PR/evangelism
problem, which is well outside my area of expertise. Any suggestions?

One or two cool apps will help. Coda is an excellent example of creating a buzz amongst "creatives" and "developers." I also think Perl 6 is going
to be really, really amazing but that may not directly aid CB, maybe
present it with its own set of problems. But it would be pretty cool if
CB had Perl 6 support and people could build OS X apps in Perl 6 with
Cocoa bindings, w00t.

Also the chattering classes, that is to say bloggers, of which I am an ignominious member, need to promote CB, perl, and Mac OS X development in general since OS X is a great platform for development and perl is a great
language and CB is the perfect tool, etc.

        Jeremiah,



Another way to promote CB that I just thought of, why not get an article in The Perl Review? I know it's not a huge audience, but I do know chromatic usually lists what's in the latest issue when he puts out the O'Reilly Perl newsletter. I just thought of something else too, maybe an interview on Perlcast? I could ask Josh McAdams if he's interested in doing the interview (or maybe we could arrange for someone to interview you).

Tom



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