Re: BBEdit 7.0 - Not Impressed
jEdit anyone? http://jedit.org/ Open-source, customizable, hackable, extendable, good community, responsive developers, lots of plugins, multi-platform, etc... True, it's slower than BBEdit (since it's written in Java) but it's also more open, if that's important to you. Pete _brian_d_foy wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark S Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is BARELY an update. BBEdit is going the way of Interarchy.=20 They've run out of features, or in most causes reached a point where=20 they refuse to program anything difficult, so we're left with features=20= they have seem rather ossified. i had a few exchanges with their techies about syntax coloring. some of my code doesn't color correctly, and they don't color everything i need. i could fix things if i wanted to buy CodeWarrior and go through all of that pain, but i think they should have a better mechanism for that. why should i have to compile somthing for every language? i should be able to write a language description file, like vim has perhaps, and that is that. a few other exchanges on things like that lead me to beleive their locked into their code base now. i love the program, and i buy every version, but i do miss some of the aspects of open source development. i still wouldn't give it up because i like it much better than any other editor that has ever existed. :) i'll have to see about this CVS tool thing. i'm dubious.
Re: BBEdit 7.0 - Not Impressed
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:09:43 -0600 Pete Prodoehl wrote: jEdit anyone? http://jedit.org/ Open-source, customizable, hackable, extendable, good community, responsive developers, lots of plugins, multi-platform, etc... True, it's slower than BBEdit (since it's written in Java) but it's also more open, if that's important to you. I plan to upgrade BBEdit tonight or tomorrow as soon as I hunt down the license keys. However, I've been dealing with gvim on a PC (and occasionally on my Mac) on a fairly regular basis and it offers a language mode for IDL, something I've been asking the folks at Research Systems and BareBones to consider for quite a while. It's not the only reason to choose an editor, but it does make my life a little easier, and I'm more than comfortable with vi and its relatives. I'll be working at Research Systems in a couple weeks - maybe I can get something started along those lines one day. Mike Schienle Interactive Visuals, Inc. http://www.ivsoftware.com - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com
Re: BBEdit 7.0 - Not Impressed
At 11:29 PM -0500 11/13/02, Chris Nandor wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (_brian_d_foy) wrote: i'll have to see about this CVS tool thing. i'm dubious. It really rocks. It's fairly simple, but it works great. I really only want to do a few things with CVS in my text editor: commit and diff. Local CVS-only, or remote via ssh (with passcode prompting)? I keep upgrading to new BBEdit versions, and it is useful enough on occasion to make it worth while, but it's not my primary editor. It requires far too much use of the mouse (emacs sequences probably help, but I gave up on emacs when my pinky literally refused to move one morning--it's no coincidence that Stallman has to dictate his edits to somebody). Also most of my editing is of Embperl, and there's no way in BBEdit to merge syntax modes. I'd dearly love them to make the syntax editing extensible with something like Perl itself. In the meantime, I spend most of my time in vim, where I don't need either the mouse *or* the control keys. -- Kee Hinckley - Somewhere.Com, LLC http://consulting.somewhere.com/ I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.
Re: BBEdit 7.0 - Not Impressed
In article p0530090cb9f97023425e@[192.168.1.104], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kee Hinckley) wrote: At 11:29 PM -0500 11/13/02, Chris Nandor wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (_brian_d_foy) wrote: i'll have to see about this CVS tool thing. i'm dubious. It really rocks. It's fairly simple, but it works great. I really only want to do a few things with CVS in my text editor: commit and diff. Local CVS-only, or remote via ssh (with passcode prompting)? It just uses the command line cvs tool, I think. I use it with remote CVS. Mine doesn't prompt for the password, since I have ssh-agent set up, but yeah. -- Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/ Open Source Development Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://osdn.com/
Re: BBEdit 7.0 - Not Impressed
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark S Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is BARELY an update. BBEdit is going the way of Interarchy.=20 They've run out of features, or in most causes reached a point where=20 they refuse to program anything difficult, so we're left with features=20= they have seem rather ossified. i had a few exchanges with their techies about syntax coloring. some of my code doesn't color correctly, and they don't color everything i need. i could fix things if i wanted to buy CodeWarrior and go through all of that pain, but i think they should have a better mechanism for that. why should i have to compile somthing for every language? i should be able to write a language description file, like vim has perhaps, and that is that. a few other exchanges on things like that lead me to beleive their locked into their code base now. i love the program, and i buy every version, but i do miss some of the aspects of open source development. i still wouldn't give it up because i like it much better than any other editor that has ever existed. :) i'll have to see about this CVS tool thing. i'm dubious.
Re: BBEdit 7.0 - Not Impressed
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (_brian_d_foy) wrote: i'll have to see about this CVS tool thing. i'm dubious. It really rocks. It's fairly simple, but it works great. I really only want to do a few things with CVS in my text editor: commit and diff. And both are now a simple key-command away; commit brings up a message window to type in, and diff brings up a list of revisions to diff against (and, of course, takes you to the great BBEdit differences windows to view the diff). I use it for a few other little things, like revision history and checking the status, but the ability to do commit and diff is huge for me. -- Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/ Open Source Development Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://osdn.com/
