Re: need ocr for epson vx30/300 scanner

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,
"Raspberry Reader" will be free and Open-Source. It is just awaiting a  
revision of the VIP-Toolkit.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 8-Apr-09, at 8:45 AM, christos hux wrote:

>
> Hi to the list. I just purchased a Epson flatbed scanner model vx30
> because of its low cost compared to other scanners. I wanted one that
> was affordable to scan my mail.
> The only kind of ocr software that came with it is the Abby Fine
> Reader version 5. It is not very useable in my view and to upgrade to
> the newist version which is 9.0 is just a windows only version.
> Anybody out there know if I can use this in my view useless fine
> reader as a upgrade path to Omnipage pro x ? When I went and looked at
> the iris web page for iris readit pro 11 version to purchase it it
> only tells you that this is a upgrade purchase. So I guess if you do
> not have a earlier version of readit this is not going to work? I
> really need help in finding a good voice over working ocr program for
> the Mac. Before anyone suggest I do know about kurzweil 3000 for the
> mac since I was a early version 1 tester. Most of the really nice
> early mac kurzweil folks back when Kurzweil was not part of anyother
> company they were very nice and helpful. I do not have any contacts
> anymore inside the company and the program has a lot of non blind user
> stuff. It would be a super help if that free mac ocr program was
> avilable right now until sometime this summer. Sorry for the long
> posting to the list.
>
> >


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Re: I have an Itunes question

[Darcy Burnard]

Hi Peggy.  The ipod sync is complete message is near the top of the  
window.  If you go to the top of the window, and move past the  
previous, play and next buttons, you should find it.  You may see it  
on its own, or you might see it inside the LCD area.  If you interact  
with this area, you'll see the syncing progress.
HTH
Darcy

On 8-Apr-09, at 7:27 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Hi Again,
>
> I've run in to a bit of a problem with Itunes. I need to know how to
> hear the message that tells you if your sync is complete. I had no
> problem with this in windows but can't find where it is on my Mac.
> I'm a nervous reck now because about ten minutes ago I crashed my
> Ipod. It went totally dead.  I was in tears about it but finally my
> husband figured out how to reset it.
> I really appreciate all the wonderful help.
>
> >
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Creating Stacks with VO...

[Mike]

Hi all:

Is there a way to create what Apple refers to Stacks, I think which
are folders, on the doc, using VO?
For the sighted side, all I think you do is move the mouse over the
folder and hold down the mouse until a menu appears.
Don't know if you do something similar using VO.

TNX:

Mike

P S
For Josh Delioncourt,
an Idea for the next round table.
Maybe take a look at some VO friendly P2P file sharing programs like
Lime Wire or something similar.
Not sure what's out there but I know LW doesn't work.


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Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[Brent Harding]

I'm sure we'll continue to get new improvements too. They did pretty good.

- Original Message - 
From: "kaare dehard" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?


>
> there are some that find that vo is somehow objectionable just because
> it sort of broke a few rules that folks thought were inviolate. If
> something is done well very little scripting should be needed etc.
>
> Apple really put it's thinking cap on when design was started and it
> shows. Of course we could use some improvements.
> On 8-Apr-09, at 9:27 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> Cool! I'll have to try this. Otherwise, I was thinking of getting
>> the BRF,
>> using Louis to make text and then automater to make audio. Between
>> that Perl
>> script and the pipeline, now things should work better than when I
>> last
>> explored this before on Windows. I'm glad I just dived straight in
>> as VO
>> really isn't as bad as people make it seem, once you play with it a
>> little
>> and the podcasts on BCT.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Greg Kearney" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Daisy Pipeline has all the installers you will need.
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>> 307-224-4022
>>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>>

 Ah, do I still have to get darwin ports and Lame and all that
 installed, or
 will it use the encoders already there? I remember when I tried it
 on
 Windows that Bookshare books wouldn't validate, but maybe that perl
 script
 will fix that up.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Greg Kearney" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?


>
> As the author of DTBmaker I would suggest moving over to DAISY
> Pipeline which is a much more complete solution for doing this.
>
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a
>> few weeks
>> ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare
>> books
>> into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor
>> Stream. I
>> don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term
>> reading and
>> wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to
>> install
>> to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the
>> option to
>> start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence
>> voice,
>> lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite
>> Linux so I'm
>> not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to
>> read
>> good
>> with VO.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>
>


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Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[kaare dehard]

there are some that find that vo is somehow objectionable just because  
it sort of broke a few rules that folks thought were inviolate. If  
something is done well very little scripting should be needed etc.

Apple really put it's thinking cap on when design was started and it  
shows. Of course we could use some improvements.
On 8-Apr-09, at 9:27 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> Cool! I'll have to try this. Otherwise, I was thinking of getting  
> the BRF,
> using Louis to make text and then automater to make audio. Between  
> that Perl
> script and the pipeline, now things should work better than when I  
> last
> explored this before on Windows. I'm glad I just dived straight in  
> as VO
> really isn't as bad as people make it seem, once you play with it a  
> little
> and the podcasts on BCT.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Kearney" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?
>
>
>>
>> Daisy Pipeline has all the installers you will need.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ah, do I still have to get darwin ports and Lame and all that
>>> installed, or
>>> will it use the encoders already there? I remember when I tried it  
>>> on
>>> Windows that Bookshare books wouldn't validate, but maybe that perl
>>> script
>>> will fix that up.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Greg Kearney" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?
>>>
>>>

 As the author of DTBmaker I would suggest moving over to DAISY
 Pipeline which is a much more complete solution for doing this.


 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
 gkear...@gmail.com



 On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a
> few weeks
> ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare
> books
> into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor
> Stream. I
> don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term
> reading and
> wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to
> install
> to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the
> option to
> start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence
> voice,
> lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite
> Linux so I'm
> not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to  
> read
> good
> with VO.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>>


>

>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >


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Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[Brent Harding]

Cool! I'll have to try this. Otherwise, I was thinking of getting the BRF, 
using Louis to make text and then automater to make audio. Between that Perl 
script and the pipeline, now things should work better than when I last 
explored this before on Windows. I'm glad I just dived straight in as VO 
really isn't as bad as people make it seem, once you play with it a little 
and the podcasts on BCT.

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Kearney" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?


>
> Daisy Pipeline has all the installers you will need.
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> Ah, do I still have to get darwin ports and Lame and all that
>> installed, or
>> will it use the encoders already there? I remember when I tried it on
>> Windows that Bookshare books wouldn't validate, but maybe that perl
>> script
>> will fix that up.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Greg Kearney" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As the author of DTBmaker I would suggest moving over to DAISY
>>> Pipeline which is a much more complete solution for doing this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>> 307-224-4022
>>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>>

 Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a
 few weeks
 ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare
 books
 into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor
 Stream. I
 don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term
 reading and
 wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to
 install
 to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the
 option to
 start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence
 voice,
 lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite
 Linux so I'm
 not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to read
 good
 with VO.

 Thanks.


>
>>>
>>>

>>>
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>> >
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>
> >
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Re: just got my mac today

[kaare dehard]

not that I'm aware of you may be able to get growl to speak messages.  
I simply command tab when I hear the chimes and then interact with the  
html.
On 8-Apr-09, at 6:59 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> I got that working  successsfully
>  but now I find that I can't hear the message when someone types back
> to me. Is there a command for that or a setting I need to change?
> Thanks Guys. r  On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:30 PM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> just press the return key after typeing the message.
>> I have had a few weird missadventures when pressing tab when looking
>> for the old send button.On 8-Apr-09, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
>>> someone how do you cause the message to send?
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>>>

 My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com

 This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
 yahoo and various other chat clients.


 On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I  
> am
> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
> scramble
> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger
> so
> what would you guys recommend I use?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
>> you
>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>> Will
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
>>> feel
>>> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can
>>> browse
>>> the
>>> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did  
>>> bump
>>> in
>>> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of  
>>> the
>>> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
>>> old
>>> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed
>>> at
>>> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
>>> difficulty.
>>> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>>>

 Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going
 to
 go
 through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye  
 that
 you
 and I
 can use while we're learning!
 Really, its not that bad.

 Tom K.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Peninnah" 
 To: "macvisionaries" 
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
 Subject: just got my mac today



 Hi:

 I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
 guys
 with
 questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally  
 new
 to
 the Mac
 coming from the windows environment so this is a real change  
 for
 me.  I am
 really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
 with
 us new
 folks.

 There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have
 an
 Ipod nano
 four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to
 use
 it with
 my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off
 it
 and start
 over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering
 what
 will
 happen when I switch?
 Thanks again you guys for being here for me.


 Peninnah Fleischer





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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

Thanks

I'll try that. I understand the concept and it sounds like it should  
be a bit faster. I appreciate the suggestion.On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:16  
PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> I agree that this is a bit lugubrious.  One thing you can do,
> especially if you're going to stay in that chat window for a while and
> not want to navigate outside the application, is to turn off cursor
> tracking, with VO Shift F3.  The first time you start typing, your
> edit point and mouse cursor will move into the text window, but your
> VO cursor will stay in the HTML content window.  Now, all you have to
> do the next time something comes in is to VO right arrow once to hear
> it.  Just remember to turn cursor tracking back on again if you \
> outside this chat window, with another toggle of VO Shift F3.
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[Greg Kearney]

Daisy Pipeline has all the installers you will need.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkear...@gmail.com



On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> Ah, do I still have to get darwin ports and Lame and all that  
> installed, or
> will it use the encoders already there? I remember when I tried it on
> Windows that Bookshare books wouldn't validate, but maybe that perl  
> script
> will fix that up.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Kearney" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?
>
>
>>
>> As the author of DTBmaker I would suggest moving over to DAISY
>> Pipeline which is a much more complete solution for doing this.
>>
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkear...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a
>>> few weeks
>>> ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare
>>> books
>>> into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor
>>> Stream. I
>>> don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term
>>> reading and
>>> wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to
>>> install
>>> to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the
>>> option to
>>> start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence
>>> voice,
>>> lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite
>>> Linux so I'm
>>> not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to read
>>> good
>>> with VO.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> >


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Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[Brent Harding]

Ah, do I still have to get darwin ports and Lame and all that installed, or 
will it use the encoders already there? I remember when I tried it on 
Windows that Bookshare books wouldn't validate, but maybe that perl script 
will fix that up.


- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Kearney" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?


>
> As the author of DTBmaker I would suggest moving over to DAISY
> Pipeline which is a much more complete solution for doing this.
>
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a
>> few weeks
>> ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare
>> books
>> into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor
>> Stream. I
>> don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term
>> reading and
>> wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to
>> install
>> to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the
>> option to
>> start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence
>> voice,
>> lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite
>> Linux so I'm
>> not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to read
>> good
>> with VO.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
> 


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Re: making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[Greg Kearney]

As the author of DTBmaker I would suggest moving over to DAISY  
Pipeline which is a much more complete solution for doing this.


Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkear...@gmail.com



On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a  
> few weeks
> ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare  
> books
> into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor  
> Stream. I
> don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term  
> reading and
> wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to  
> install
> to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the  
> option to
> start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence  
> voice,
> lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite  
> Linux so I'm
> not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to read  
> good
> with VO.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> >


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making bookshare books into audio/Daisy books?

[Brent Harding]

Hi there. I'm kind of a new user and just got a Macbook off Ebay a few weeks 
ago. I tried to install DTBMaker to try and convert some Bookshare books 
into audio with the Alex voice to eventually put on my Victor Stream. I 
don't care for the voices built into the stream for long-term reading and 
wanted to use the better voice this machine has. What do I need to install 
to make it not give the command not found error when you hit the option to 
start building the book? Do I need to install the Cepstral silence voice, 
lame some how, and whatever perl modules? I know it's not quite Linux so I'm 
not sure how to do that part even though the terminal seems to read good 
with VO.

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Re: favirites

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

Yes.

Thanks,
Alex,


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> Hi,  Can i transfer my favorites from my windows computer to my mac  
> so that
> i don't have to type them all in manually?
> From Wendy.
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Re: just got my mac today

[Mark Baxter]

I figured it out; please disregard my previous brain death.

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Re: just got my mac today

[Dan Eickmeier]

Yep, that's whatyou  have to do.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Brent Harding wrote:


It's under the preferences under events. I think you have to interact  
with
the table to choose an event and hit add to add the speech to it.

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Baxter" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: just got my mac today


>
> To read messages you receive, you have to navigate to the HTML
> content, and interact with it, then use VO navigation (VO right arrow)
> to navigate through the chat history.  In Ichat, there is an option to
> speak incoming messages using the system voice, and I thought there
> was such a beast in Adium, but i haven't found it yet...
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
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Re: just got my mac today

[chantel cuddemi]

You are correct. you need to interact with the events table.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

>
> It's under the preferences under events. I think you have to  
> interact with
> the table to choose an event and hit add to add the speech to it.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Baxter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: just got my mac today
>
>
>>
>> To read messages you receive, you have to navigate to the HTML
>> content, and interact with it, then use VO navigation (VO right  
>> arrow)
>> to navigate through the chat history.  In Ichat, there is an option  
>> to
>> speak incoming messages using the system voice, and I thought there
>> was such a beast in Adium, but i haven't found it yet...
>>
>>
>> Mark BurningHawk
>>
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>> My home page:
>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: just got my mac today

[Mark Baxter]

I think I see where you mean, but I can't make it make sense to me at  
the moment. :(


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Re: just got my mac today

[Brent Harding]

It's under the preferences under events. I think you have to interact with 
the table to choose an event and hit add to add the speech to it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Baxter" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: just got my mac today


>
> To read messages you receive, you have to navigate to the HTML
> content, and interact with it, then use VO navigation (VO right arrow)
> to navigate through the chat history.  In Ichat, there is an option to
> speak incoming messages using the system voice, and I thought there
> was such a beast in Adium, but i haven't found it yet...
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
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Re: just got my mac today

[Brent Harding]

I think that's in the adium preferences. You have to hit the events button 
and add speak events to everything you want spoken. I never knew about that 
when I got this Macbook I got off Ebay. The only thing I'm wondering is how 
I get rid of the ugly picture I took on the setup assistant. I thought it 
was a bug as it kept saying busy until I hit take video snapshot and I was 
in no condition to want to take a picture of myself, but I thought nobody 
would ever see it anyway, but it's now default on my MSN.

- Original Message - 
From: "Peggy Fleischer" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: just got my mac today


>
> I got that working  successsfully
>  but now I find that I can't hear the message when someone types back
> to me. Is there a command for that or a setting I need to change?
> Thanks Guys. r  On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:30 PM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> just press the return key after typeing the message.
>> I have had a few weird missadventures when pressing tab when looking
>> for the old send button.On 8-Apr-09, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
>>> someone how do you cause the message to send?
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>>>

 My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com

 This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
 yahoo and various other chat clients.


 On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
> scramble
> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger
> so
> what would you guys recommend I use?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
>> you
>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>> Will
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
>>> feel
>>> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can
>>> browse
>>> the
>>> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
>>> in
>>> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
>>> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
>>> old
>>> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed
>>> at
>>> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
>>> difficulty.
>>> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>>>

 Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going
 to
 go
 through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
 you
 and I
 can use while we're learning!
 Really, its not that bad.

 Tom K.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Peninnah" 
 To: "macvisionaries" 
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
 Subject: just got my mac today



 Hi:

 I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
 guys
 with
 questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
 to
 the Mac
 coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
 me.  I am
 really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
 with
 us new
 folks.

 There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have
 an
 Ipod nano
 four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to
 use
 it with
 my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off
 it
 and start
 over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering
 what
 will
 happen when I switch?
 Thanks again you guys for being here for me.


 Peninnah Fleischer





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Re: just got my mac today

[Mark Baxter]

I agree that this is a bit lugubrious.  One thing you can do,  
especially if you're going to stay in that chat window for a while and  
not want to navigate outside the application, is to turn off cursor  
tracking, with VO Shift F3.  The first time you start typing, your  
edit point and mouse cursor will move into the text window, but your  
VO cursor will stay in the HTML content window.  Now, all you have to  
do the next time something comes in is to VO right arrow once to hear  
it.  Just remember to turn cursor tracking back on again if you \  
outside this chat window, with another toggle of VO Shift F3.


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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

I am able to do it that way but it sure is cumbersome.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> To read messages you receive, you have to navigate to the HTML
> content, and interact with it, then use VO navigation (VO right arrow)
> to navigate through the chat history.  In Ichat, there is an option to
> speak incoming messages using the system voice, and I thought there
> was such a beast in Adium, but i haven't found it yet...
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
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I have an Itunes question

[Peggy Fleischer]

Hi Again,

I've run in to a bit of a problem with Itunes. I need to know how to  
hear the message that tells you if your sync is complete. I had no  
problem with this in windows but can't find where it is on my Mac.   
I'm a nervous reck now because about ten minutes ago I crashed my  
Ipod. It went totally dead.  I was in tears about it but finally my  
husband figured out how to reset it.
I really appreciate all the wonderful help.

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Re: just got my mac today

[chantel cuddemi]

There is. You just need to add each event ater you are finished  
interacting with the events table. It's a bit comple, but it is  
manageable. Hth,
Chantel.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> To read messages you receive, you have to navigate to the HTML
> content, and interact with it, then use VO navigation (VO right arrow)
> to navigate through the chat history.  In Ichat, there is an option to
> speak incoming messages using the system voice, and I thought there
> was such a beast in Adium, but i haven't found it yet...
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
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Re: just got my mac today

[Mark Baxter]

To read messages you receive, you have to navigate to the HTML  
content, and interact with it, then use VO navigation (VO right arrow)  
to navigate through the chat history.  In Ichat, there is an option to  
speak incoming messages using the system voice, and I thought there  
was such a beast in Adium, but i haven't found it yet...


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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

I got that working  successsfully
  but now I find that I can't hear the message when someone types back  
to me. Is there a command for that or a setting I need to change?   
Thanks Guys. r  On Apr 8, 2009, at 6:30 PM, kaare dehard wrote:

>
> just press the return key after typeing the message.
> I have had a few weird missadventures when pressing tab when looking
> for the old send button.On 8-Apr-09, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
>> someone how do you cause the message to send?
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>>>
>>> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
>>> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>>

 Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
 hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
 nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
 scramble
 it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
 messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger  
 so
 what would you guys recommend I use?

 Thanks

 On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
> you
> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
> Will
>
> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>>  Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
>> feel
>> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can  
>> browse
>> the
>> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
>> in
>> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
>> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
>> old
>> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed
>> at
>> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
>> difficulty.
>> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going
>>> to
>>> go
>>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
>>> you
>>> and I
>>> can use while we're learning!
>>> Really, its not that bad.
>>>
>>> Tom K.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Peninnah" 
>>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
>>> guys
>>> with
>>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
>>> to
>>> the Mac
>>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>>> me.  I am
>>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
>>> with
>>> us new
>>> folks.
>>>
>>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have  
>>> an
>>> Ipod nano
>>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to
>>> use
>>> it with
>>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off  
>>> it
>>> and start
>>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering
>>> what
>>> will
>>> happen when I switch?
>>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
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>
>>


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Re: just got my mac today

[kaare dehard]

just press the return key after typeing the message.
I have had a few weird missadventures when pressing tab when looking  
for the old send button.On 8-Apr-09, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
> someone how do you cause the message to send?
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>>
>> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
>> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>>
>>
>> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
>>> scramble
>>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>

 your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
 you
 set in the speech control panel under system preferences
 Will

 On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
>   Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
> feel
> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
> the
> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
> in
> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
> old
> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed  
> at
> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
> difficulty.
> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going  
>> to
>> go
>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
>> you
>> and I
>> can use while we're learning!
>> Really, its not that bad.
>>
>> Tom K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Peninnah" 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
>> guys
>> with
>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
>> to
>> the Mac
>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>> me.  I am
>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
>> with
>> us new
>> folks.
>>
>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
>> Ipod nano
>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to  
>> use
>> it with
>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
>> and start
>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering  
>> what
>> will
>> happen when I switch?
>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>
>>
>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


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>>>

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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[ben mustill-rose]

Its worth noting now that the atoms are the slower cpu's for netbooks;
indications are that via's cpu is better unless your watching video.
Having said this, I wouldn't swap my nc10 with its atom for anything atm.

On 08/04/2009, Jane Lee  wrote:
>
> Alex -
> The netbooks right now are pretty much priced the same for similar
> specifications. If you're buying now, then all you'd need to do is
> find a netbook on sale on a site like woot.com or coupons or similar
> to save money.
>
> On the other hand, I know Intel just started shipping their new Atoms,
> which won't really give you a performance boost except in graphics
> performance, where they're talking about netbooks powerful enough to
> play HD content. I don't know if that's something that would be of
> interest to you, but that's possibly the only thing on the horizon
> (other than windows 7) that would interest prospective netbook buyers.
>
> That being said, if you're wanting to run Leopard on a netbook model
> that was just released or that is soon to be released on something new
> like the new Atoms, don't hold your breath. I just bought an HP mini
> 1000 yesterday, it's not terribly new since it's from November last
> year but not old either, and everyone trying to install osx86 on it
> can't get sound or ethernet working.
>
> cheers,
> jane
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Alex Jurgensen  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How much cheaper do the Netbooks get. I think we can all agree that we
>> can save some money on things and I really could, concidering this
>> netbook is for construction use.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 6-Apr-09, at 8:46 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for this wonderful post.  In what ways is it trimmd
>>> down?  Is it something you notice or more on the technical end.  Btw,
>>> I bought the Acer Aspire One (model AOA150-1635 Safire blue)
>>> Here's a very good review of it though it does have constant images.
>>> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4575
>>> This and the general specs might be able to tell you if Leopard can be
>>> installed on it.  In any case, for $299 and with so many positive
>>> reviews, I don't think I went wrong.  Now I just have to find the
>>> 6-cell (or 9-cell if there really is such a thing) battery and I
>>> should be set.
>>>
>>> On 06/04/2009, Peg Jolene  wrote:

 Cara and others - I have a NetBook with Leopard installed. It's
 trimmed
 down, Leopard that is. However, I'm using SlingPlayer, TextEdit,
 Safari,
 etc. I'm using the Dell Mini9. It's my favorite computer,
 especially for
 entertainment, surfing, etc. And my braille display works great
 with it,
 should I want that addition. And, Cara, the NetBook fits in my
 small to
 medium-sized purse! I had to do a presentation on a Vista machine
 at work
 today, and did not enjoy traveling with my Inspiron 1525 - smile!
 As for
 Mac, I hear tell that it's NetBook is going to be touch screen -
 not at all
 useful ... so you may have to wait for that iPhone!


 PJ

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:08 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook


   Well (as has been said) I think the Air is sort of a hybrid attempt
 at that market, which I like. I love the Air's form factor but still
 prefer my lil MB! For me, if the Air were smaller, I'd be much more
 likely to consider purchasing one. I love the way they look, but
 they're just too darned big for my tastes!  lol!

 I definitely see Apple's side of things in terms of their reluctance
 to delve into the 'netbook' market, however, this trend is so large
 at
 the moment, that it's just a shame they're not really there. I would
 sooo prefer a small device running full-on OSX! (or even some flavor
 of it) This is one reason I so very much want an IPhone. I really
 would like a flavor of OSX that I can put in my purse.

   Don't get me wrong, I love having an accessible phone, but there's
 only so much Windows Mobile I can take!  lol!  So OSX (on a small
 device IPhone or netbook) would sure be a welcome addition to the
 market in my opinion.

     Anyway, great discussion!. Have an awesome day All!.

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
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 On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:


 When apple came out with the  air, I was surprised that they didn't
 come out with a netbook.  I figured that they would come out with a
 netbook.
 On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Hey All, I'd ju

Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[chantel cuddemi]

Mine too.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

>
> That's my experience as well with the mac version of Skype.
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
>
>
> In my experience, an incoming call pops up a window, so all I have to
> do is find the Answer button.  I don't have to find the window.  If
> I'm not in Skype at the time the call comes in, I do have to switch to
> Skype, but then the incoming call window is always in focus
> automatically.
>
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:06:53PM -0400, Eliza Cooper wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>I don't know about a list of keyboard commands (I'd be curious
> about that too), but I do know that when a call comes in it's in a
> different window that you need to navigate to.  Go to the window
> chooser menu with VO + F2 (hold down control and option and hit F2
> twice quickly), and choose the window titled something like incoming
> call.  You'll find an answer call button there that you can select.  I
> hope this helps for now, and perhaps there's a faster way that someone
> else will know.
>Eliza
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands
>> for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate  
>> fine
>> and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for
>> answering an incoming call.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> --  
> Doug Lee d...@dlee.orghttp://www.dlee.org
> SSB BART Group   doug@ssbbartgroup.com   
> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
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>
>
>
>
> >


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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[Dan Eickmeier]

That's my experience as well with the mac version of Skype.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Doug Lee wrote:


In my experience, an incoming call pops up a window, so all I have to
do is find the Answer button.  I don't have to find the window.  If
I'm not in Skype at the time the call comes in, I do have to switch to
Skype, but then the incoming call window is always in focus
automatically.

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:06:53PM -0400, Eliza Cooper wrote:

Hi there,
I don't know about a list of keyboard commands (I'd be curious
about that too), but I do know that when a call comes in it's in a
different window that you need to navigate to.  Go to the window
chooser menu with VO + F2 (hold down control and option and hit F2
twice quickly), and choose the window titled something like incoming
call.  You'll find an answer call button there that you can select.  I
hope this helps for now, and perhaps there's a faster way that someone
else will know.
Eliza
On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Hi:
>
> I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands
> for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate fine
> and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for
> answering an incoming call.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>>




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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[Mark Baxter]

That's precisely what I did with my 20 + gig music collection;  
transferred it via my WIFI network from my windows to my Mac, then  
worked with Itunes to massage it into some sort of order.  When I  
first started, I was afraid of Itunes, but now I like it quite much,  
especially after the latest build fixed a few nasty bugs.


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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[Doug Lee]

In my experience, an incoming call pops up a window, so all I have to
do is find the Answer button.  I don't have to find the window.  If
I'm not in Skype at the time the call comes in, I do have to switch to
Skype, but then the incoming call window is always in focus
automatically.

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:06:53PM -0400, Eliza Cooper wrote:

Hi there,
I don't know about a list of keyboard commands (I'd be curious  
about that too), but I do know that when a call comes in it's in a  
different window that you need to navigate to.  Go to the window  
chooser menu with VO + F2 (hold down control and option and hit F2  
twice quickly), and choose the window titled something like incoming  
call.  You'll find an answer call button there that you can select.  I  
hope this helps for now, and perhaps there's a faster way that someone  
else will know.
Eliza
On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Hi:
>
> I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands
> for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate fine
> and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for
> answering an incoming call.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >




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Fw: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 2.8 Beta for Mac

[Jeffrey Shockley, School Laptop Edition]

Just passing this on. Enjoy.

Jeffrey Shockley
E-Mail:
jawswiz...@ec.rr.com,
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." 
To: "'screen access software with skype'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 2.8 Beta for Mac


> as *we have some Macintosh users, I thought the following would be of 
> interest.  I did not really see much that pertain to voiceover however in 
> the list of bug fixes.  I do hope that this information is useful to the 
> Macintosh users out there
>
>
>
> Feed: Skype Garage
> Posted on: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:42 AM
> Author: Raul
> Subject: Skype 2.8 Beta for Mac
>
>
>
>
>
> Today we have released an update to Skype 2.8 Beta for Mac.
>
> We've ironed out some of the issues which found their way into the first 
> beta release, most visibly you'll see improvements to Skype Access and 
> screen sharing.
>
> We highly recommend that everyone on Skype 2.8 Beta for Mac upgrade 
>   to the new version and for 
> others who are willing to experiment a bit to try it out 
>  . Please keep in mind that 
> it's still a beta version so it might show not act exactly as you expect 
> from time to time. If you notice anything then please let us know about it 
> by commenting on this blog, discussing things on our forums 
>   or by submitting an issue report on our issue 
> tracker  .
>
> The full list of changes for the new version (2.8.0.438) are:
>
> * improvement: added Retry button to the Skype Access window
> * improvement: consistency with other Mac apps: added shortcut for Show 
> Offline Contacts, moved Make Text commands to View menu, use Clear instead 
> of Delete wording
> * improvement: improved enabling of the video and screensharing buttons 
> based on the receiver's capabilities
> * improvement: improved toolbar button image rendering
> * improvement: improved new chat handling
> * improvement: some string adjustments
> * improvement: some internal optimizations and improvements
> * change: spectator window for screen sharing
> * change: My Account page embedded in the client
> * bugfix: Skype didn't hide on OS X login
> * bugfix: copy/paste from chats was not working correctly
> * bugfix: sometimes Skype froze for a couple of seconds when starting or 
> stopping screen sharing
> * bugfix: screen sharing windows could be left on screen when a call was 
> joined to a conference
> * bugfix: PiP didn't appear in full screen when receiving screen sharing
> * bugfix: the overlay didn't appear for fullscreen screen sharing and then 
> the exit fullscreen button didn't work
> * bugfix: fullscreen mode would exit after a held call was resumed
> * bugfix: call could not be ended after being redirected to voicemail
> * bugfix: the call window layout was broken if the dialpad was shown 
> during a video call
> * bugfix: URLs inside brackets were not clickable
> * bugfix: sometimes Skype crashed after deleting missed events without 
> reading them
> * bugfix: sometimes Skype Access sessions were not terminated properly
> * bugfix: sometimes Skype Access session durations were not displayed 
> accurately
> * bugfix: sometimes extending a Skype Access session didn't work as 
> expected
> * bugfix: after signing in as another user, it was not possible to start a 
> Skype Access session
> * bugfix: it was possible to start a new Skype Access session before 
> previous one had finished
> * bugfix: Start Skype Access menu item was disabled when not signed in
> * bugfix: Skype Access session appeared in red after extending the session
> * bugfix: sometimes there were two controversial messages about Skype 
> Access availability
> * bugfix: sometimes Skype crashed when leaving a chat
> * bugfix: history was not picking up display names from Address Book for 
> text messages
> * bugfix: text on screen sharing selection buttons was misaligned on Tiger
> * bugfix: warning icon was not removed after extending online number
> * bugfix: after auto-recharge, balance pane had space on the right
> * bugfix: fixed enabling of Quick Add button in text-only toolbar mode
> * bugfix: sometimes (null) was added as a SkypeOut display name instead of 
> the one specified
> * bugfix: ESC key now closes emoticon roster as it should
> * bugfix: fixed text positioning on Tiger for screen sharing selection 
> window buttons
> * bugfix: if remote contact cancels a file transfer then sometimes it 
> still appeared as pending on the receiver side
> * bugfix: do not set to status to away during screensaver when auto away 
> is set to 0 minutes
> * bugfix: the PiP video could draw over Mute/Hold/Transfer overlays
> * bugfix: fixed video too

Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[Peggy Fleischer]

Thank you Mark and everyone else that gave me answers for Skype.

I am continuing to be amazed at how much simpler things are on the  
Mac. The only challenge I have had is with my Ipod and that is because  
of transffering  from Windows. I had to totally dump my Ipod then move  
all my files over my network from my windows computer and am now  
working on importing them into the Itunes on my Mac. Time consuming  
and boring.  You guys are a great bunch of supportive people. I  
couldn't  have made this change without you all.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> Peggy:
> If you use VO right arrow to navigate through the Skype window, often
> you will come to the "answer button," and "decline button."  VO space
> bar, a click, in other words, on this button will press them.  If you
> don't find that while navigating in Skype, press command grave accent
> to go to the other window open within the Skype application.
> Sometimes the calling window doesn't seem to jump to the foreground
> for Voiceover, I've noticed.  Let me know if I can be of further
> assistance.
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> My home page:
> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>
>
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Re: Changing voice of login window

[Pierre Heim]

Good evening folks,

I understood the last post of Anne this way that the system voice you set in 
speech preverences is also active for the login window. In order to check if 
the problem is the Infovox voice I set Bruce to test this. So I restarted VO 
and logout/login and restarted but always the same result: Alex is still 
present and after login hte voices from the VO utility settings became active. 
Is this the correct behaviour or is something wrong here?

Pierre

  - Original Message - 
  From: Pierre Heim 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


  Hi,

  the system voice is set to Klaus (my iPod syncs the menus with it) and the 
Leopard installation is with German localization. I think I will write a mail 
to Assistiveware the next days... Thanks so far.

  Greetings,
  Pierre

- Original Message - 
From: Esther 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


Hi Scott and Pierre, 


I remember that with the Leopard upgrade the default voice (until you 
actually finished the upgrade) was Fred. I've only used the different voice 
options earlier with VisioVoice (in French) and Tiger, and I don't run my 
Leopard account with a different language localization.  Tiger's support was 
more restrictive.  I thought that you could boot up your system in Leopard 
starting with another voice, but I haven't tried this myself.  I guess my 
question to Pierre would first be whether the computer was set up with a 
default localization in German (for the system, not just his account)?


Anne would probably know whether a startup from scratch works with a voice 
other than Alex based on her experience with the French VoiceOver mailing list 
that she moderates.  Other than that, David Niemeijer at Assistiveware could 
probably tell you whether this is possible for a German login voice.  You could 
send a query to: 


supp...@assistiveware.com


or else send a post to the Assistiveware forums.  David reads this list, 
but a direct email will be faster.


HTH


On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Scott Howell wrote:


  I'm not sure you can change it. that is a problem unless Apple makes 
different languages a part of the VO package. Of course I could be wrong as 
well.

  On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Pierre Heim wrote:


Hi Esther,

I know this already (all voices are set to "Klaus" from the iVox 
package) but the problem is that these settings become only active after user 
login. I can activate VO for the login window but I cannot find an option to 
change the voice used for this window. After login everything works fine.

Pierre

  - Original Message -
  From: Esther
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Changing voice of login window


  Hello Pierre, 


  Pierre Heim wrote:

is it possible to change the voice for the login window? Alex 
sounds fine but not for German localization *g*

  To change the voice (for example, to Klaus or Sarah from the Infovox 
iVox German voices), bring up the VoiceOver utility with VO-F8, press 's' to 
select "Speech" in the table of utility categories, then tab to the pane for 
setting voices. You'll hear "Voices, selected tab 1 of 2". You can select and 
choose settings for the Voice you use for Default Voice, Content, Status, Type, 
Attributes, and VoiceOver menu announcements.  VO-Right arrow to the pop up 
buttons beside each category and press (VO-Space), then use arrow keys and 
letters to select your voice from all the available options.  VO-Right arrow to 
set default rate, pitch, and volume for each voice. You can do this either by 
typing a number between 1 and 100 in the text field or by using your up and 
down arrow keys on the adjusters when you VO-Right arrow past the text field 
inputs.  


  You can also edit pronunciation by choosing the Pronunciation tab of 
the Speech options in VoiceOver Utility.  Use either VO-Right Arrow from the 
Voices tab or item chooser menu (VO-I) and type "t a b" to navigate to the 
Pronunciation tab, then return.  VO-Space on the tab to select it. VO-Right 
arrow and interact with the table for examples of text words or phrases and the 
substituted pronunciation. To add a pronunciation fix, stop interacting with 
the table and VO-Right to the "Add" button and press (VO-Space).  A 
pronunciation dialog window will come up, with prompts for you to enter the 
text you wish to edit and the new pronunciation, along with the group 
categories/applications in which you wish this to be used. There are buttons to 
"play", "cancel" or "save" that will close the dialog window.  When you're 
finished, use Command-W to close the VoiceOver Utility window.


 

Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Jane Lee]

Alex -
The netbooks right now are pretty much priced the same for similar
specifications. If you're buying now, then all you'd need to do is
find a netbook on sale on a site like woot.com or coupons or similar
to save money.

On the other hand, I know Intel just started shipping their new Atoms,
which won't really give you a performance boost except in graphics
performance, where they're talking about netbooks powerful enough to
play HD content. I don't know if that's something that would be of
interest to you, but that's possibly the only thing on the horizon
(other than windows 7) that would interest prospective netbook buyers.

That being said, if you're wanting to run Leopard on a netbook model
that was just released or that is soon to be released on something new
like the new Atoms, don't hold your breath. I just bought an HP mini
1000 yesterday, it's not terribly new since it's from November last
year but not old either, and everyone trying to install osx86 on it
can't get sound or ethernet working.

cheers,
jane



On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Alex Jurgensen  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How much cheaper do the Netbooks get. I think we can all agree that we
> can save some money on things and I really could, concidering this
> netbook is for construction use.
>
> thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 6-Apr-09, at 8:46 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks so much for this wonderful post.  In what ways is it trimmd
>> down?  Is it something you notice or more on the technical end.  Btw,
>> I bought the Acer Aspire One (model AOA150-1635 Safire blue)
>> Here's a very good review of it though it does have constant images.
>> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4575
>> This and the general specs might be able to tell you if Leopard can be
>> installed on it.  In any case, for $299 and with so many positive
>> reviews, I don't think I went wrong.  Now I just have to find the
>> 6-cell (or 9-cell if there really is such a thing) battery and I
>> should be set.
>>
>> On 06/04/2009, Peg Jolene  wrote:
>>>
>>> Cara and others - I have a NetBook with Leopard installed. It's
>>> trimmed
>>> down, Leopard that is. However, I'm using SlingPlayer, TextEdit,
>>> Safari,
>>> etc. I'm using the Dell Mini9. It's my favorite computer,
>>> especially for
>>> entertainment, surfing, etc. And my braille display works great
>>> with it,
>>> should I want that addition. And, Cara, the NetBook fits in my
>>> small to
>>> medium-sized purse! I had to do a presentation on a Vista machine
>>> at work
>>> today, and did not enjoy traveling with my Inspiron 1525 - smile!
>>> As for
>>> Mac, I hear tell that it's NetBook is going to be touch screen -
>>> not at all
>>> useful ... so you may have to wait for that iPhone!
>>>
>>>
>>> PJ
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:08 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook
>>>
>>>
>>>   Well (as has been said) I think the Air is sort of a hybrid attempt
>>> at that market, which I like. I love the Air's form factor but still
>>> prefer my lil MB! For me, if the Air were smaller, I'd be much more
>>> likely to consider purchasing one. I love the way they look, but
>>> they're just too darned big for my tastes!  lol!
>>>
>>> I definitely see Apple's side of things in terms of their reluctance
>>> to delve into the 'netbook' market, however, this trend is so large
>>> at
>>> the moment, that it's just a shame they're not really there. I would
>>> sooo prefer a small device running full-on OSX! (or even some flavor
>>> of it) This is one reason I so very much want an IPhone. I really
>>> would like a flavor of OSX that I can put in my purse.
>>>
>>>   Don't get me wrong, I love having an accessible phone, but there's
>>> only so much Windows Mobile I can take!  lol!  So OSX (on a small
>>> device IPhone or netbook) would sure be a welcome addition to the
>>> market in my opinion.
>>>
>>>     Anyway, great discussion!. Have an awesome day All!.
>>>
>>> Smiles,
>>>
>>> Cara  :)
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>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>>>
>>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> When apple came out with the  air, I was surprised that they didn't
>>> come out with a netbook.  I figured that they would come out with a
>>> netbook.
>>> On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hey All, I'd just like to ask if we might take care to sort of veer
>>> this topic back to the subject line rather than discussing what
>>> netbooks are?  I think Chris has his answer now, so we're cool.
>>>
>>>   The idea of OSX on a netbook is certainly right on topic though, so
>>> please do feel free to post all you want on that!
>>>
>>> Smiles,
>>>
>>> Cara  :)
>>> ---
>>> Follow me on Twitter!
>>>
>

Re: just got my mac today

[Dan Eickmeier]

Yeah I hear ya, i was likethat  when I first got my mac as well.

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:


Ahh! I was trying to be to complicated about it!  Thanks, I was
looking all over the help for shortcut keys and couldn't find any.
See how
paranoid us recovering windows users can be?! lol!  În Apr 8, 2009, at
11:42 AM, Dan Ewkmeier wrote:

>
> Hi, just hit return, and it'll send.
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>
> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
> someone how do you cause the message to send?
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>>
>> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
>> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>>
>>
>> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
>>> scramble
>>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>

 your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
 you
 set in the speech control panel under system preferences
 Will

 On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
>   Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
> feel
> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
> the
> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
> in
> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
> old
> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed
> at
> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
> difficulty.
> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going
>> to
>> go
>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
>> you
>> and I
>> can use while we're learning!
>> Really, its not that bad.
>>
>> Tom K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Peninnah" 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
>> guys
>> with
>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
>> to
>> the Mac
>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>> me.  I am
>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
>> with
>> us new
>> folks.
>>
>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
>> Ipod nano
>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to
>> use
>> it with
>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
>> and start
>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering
>> what
>> will
>> happen when I switch?
>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>
>>
>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[Mark Baxter]

Peggy:
If you use VO right arrow to navigate through the Skype window, often  
you will come to the "answer button," and "decline button."  VO space  
bar, a click, in other words, on this button will press them.  If you  
don't find that while navigating in Skype, press command grave accent  
to go to the other window open within the Skype application.   
Sometimes the calling window doesn't seem to jump to the foreground  
for Voiceover, I've noticed.  Let me know if I can be of further  
assistance.


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RE: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Peg Jolene]

In answer to your question - In what ways is it trimmed
down?  Is it something you notice or more on the technical end.  
Trim down is more on the technical end. I really haven't noticed any slow down. 
I am using the solid state 8 gig drive and accessing downloads with a 16GB SD 
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Re: need ocr for epson vx30/300 scanner

[Mark Baxter]

Hi.  I got a lot of help with this myself, so will pass some of it  
forward.  The program usually used for scanning and/or OCR on the Mac  
seems to be Vuescan.  You'll need drivers for the Mac for your  
scanner, if you don't already have them installed.  Download and  
install Vuescan, and also a program called ReadIris.  I never got as  
far as ReadIris, because I could never find a free download link for  
it, but apparently its OCR is superior to Vuescan.  Vuescan would  
probably do well enough for every-day tasks like reading mail and so  
on, but there's no page orientation and not much in the way of dynamic  
control, so it appeared to me.  Let me know if I can help, or at least  
share with us how you're doing with it. :)


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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[chantel cuddemi]

Eliza, the term is quick answer. That's the title found in the window  
chooser menu.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Eliza Cooper wrote:

>
> Hi there,
>I don't know about a list of keyboard commands (I'd be curious
> about that too), but I do know that when a call comes in it's in a
> different window that you need to navigate to.  Go to the window
> chooser menu with VO + F2 (hold down control and option and hit F2
> twice quickly), and choose the window titled something like incoming
> call.  You'll find an answer call button there that you can select.  I
> hope this helps for now, and perhaps there's a faster way that someone
> else will know.
>Eliza
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands
>> for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate  
>> fine
>> and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for
>> answering an incoming call.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[chantel cuddemi]

If you click on the answer button, it will answer the call . When an  
incoming call comes, you will see three buttons, the first being the  
answer button, and the others the decine button and the chat button.
Click on the answer button to answer the call, and if you want to  
reject the call, hit the decline button.
Hth,
Chantel.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Hi:
>
> I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands
> for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate fine
> and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for
> answering an incoming call.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >


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Re: just got my mac today

[Brandon Misch]

just hit enter. the message will send.

On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
> someone how do you cause the message to send?
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>>
>> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
>> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>>
>>
>> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
>>> scramble
>>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>

 your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
 you
 set in the speech control panel under system preferences
 Will

 On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
>   Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
> feel
> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
> the
> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
> in
> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
> old
> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed  
> at
> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
> difficulty.
> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going  
>> to
>> go
>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
>> you
>> and I
>> can use while we're learning!
>> Really, its not that bad.
>>
>> Tom K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Peninnah" 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
>> guys
>> with
>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
>> to
>> the Mac
>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>> me.  I am
>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
>> with
>> us new
>> folks.
>>
>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
>> Ipod nano
>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to  
>> use
>> it with
>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
>> and start
>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering  
>> what
>> will
>> happen when I switch?
>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>
>>
>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: SKYPE QUESTION

[Eliza Cooper]

Hi there,
I don't know about a list of keyboard commands (I'd be curious  
about that too), but I do know that when a call comes in it's in a  
different window that you need to navigate to.  Go to the window  
chooser menu with VO + F2 (hold down control and option and hit F2  
twice quickly), and choose the window titled something like incoming  
call.  You'll find an answer call button there that you can select.  I  
hope this helps for now, and perhaps there's a faster way that someone  
else will know.
Eliza
On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Hi:
>
> I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands
> for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate fine
> and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for
> answering an incoming call.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >


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SKYPE QUESTION

[Peggy Fleischer]

Hi:

I have a question about skype. Is there a list of keyboard commands  
for Skype? I can't figure out ow to answer a call. I can navigate fine  
and I can make a call and hang up but can't find a command for  
answering an incoming call.

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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

Ahh! I was trying to be to complicated about it!  Thanks, I was  
looking all over the help for shortcut keys and couldn't find any.   
See how
paranoid us recovering windows users can be?! lol!  În Apr 8, 2009, at  
11:42 AM, Dan Ewkmeier wrote:

>
> Hi, just hit return, and it'll send.
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>
> Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
> someone how do you cause the message to send?
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:
>
>>
>> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>>
>> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
>> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>>
>>
>> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
>>> scramble
>>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>

 your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
 you
 set in the speech control panel under system preferences
 Will

 On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
>   Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
> feel
> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
> the
> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
> in
> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
> old
> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed  
> at
> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
> difficulty.
> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going  
>> to
>> go
>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
>> you
>> and I
>> can use while we're learning!
>> Really, its not that bad.
>>
>> Tom K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Peninnah" 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
>> guys
>> with
>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
>> to
>> the Mac
>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>> me.  I am
>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
>> with
>> us new
>> folks.
>>
>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
>> Ipod nano
>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to  
>> use
>> it with
>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
>> and start
>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering  
>> what
>> will
>> happen when I switch?
>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>
>>
>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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need ocr for epson vx30/300 scanner

[christos hux]

Hi to the list. I just purchased a Epson flatbed scanner model vx30  
because of its low cost compared to other scanners. I wanted one that  
was affordable to scan my mail.
The only kind of ocr software that came with it is the Abby Fine  
Reader version 5. It is not very useable in my view and to upgrade to  
the newist version which is 9.0 is just a windows only version.
Anybody out there know if I can use this in my view useless fine  
reader as a upgrade path to Omnipage pro x ? When I went and looked at  
the iris web page for iris readit pro 11 version to purchase it it  
only tells you that this is a upgrade purchase. So I guess if you do  
not have a earlier version of readit this is not going to work? I  
really need help in finding a good voice over working ocr program for  
the Mac. Before anyone suggest I do know about kurzweil 3000 for the  
mac since I was a early version 1 tester. Most of the really nice  
early mac kurzweil folks back when Kurzweil was not part of anyother  
company they were very nice and helpful. I do not have any contacts  
anymore inside the company and the program has a lot of non blind user  
stuff. It would be a super help if that free mac ocr program was  
avilable right now until sometime this summer. Sorry for the long  
posting to the list.

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Re: just got my mac today

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi, just hit return, and it'll send.

On Apr 8, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:


Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to
someone how do you cause the message to send?
On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:

>
> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>
> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>
>
> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to
>> scramble
>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice
>>> you
>>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>>

Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I
 feel
 good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
 the
 web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump
 in
 to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
 house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year
 old
 daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
 how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
 difficulty.
 Absolutely love my new Mac!

 On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:

>
> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to
> go
> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
> you
> and I
> can use while we're learning!
> Really, its not that bad.
>
> Tom K.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peninnah" 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: just got my mac today
>
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
> guys
> with
> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new
> to
> the Mac
> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
> me.  I am
> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient
> with
> us new
> folks.
>
> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
> Ipod nano
> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
> it with
> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
> and start
> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
> will
> happen when I switch?
> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>
>
> Peninnah Fleischer
>
>
>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>





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website building on the Mac?

[Eliza Cooper]

Hi list,
I'm taking on a new long-term project/hobby and learning how to  
code so that I can start my own website.  I'm a definite novice and am  
experimenting with html in notepad on the windows side of my Mac.  Can  
you use TextEdit to do the same thing (i.e., write code and see the  
finished product by launching the file when Safari is open)?  If  
someone who has created their own site is willing, could they write me  
off-list?  I'd also love advice on what web hosting service to use,  
but that's off topic.
Thanks,
Eliza

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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

Okay, now I have a question about Adium, When typing a message to  
someone how do you cause the message to send?
On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:

>
> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>
> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>
>
> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to  
>> scramble
>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice  
>>> you
>>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>>

Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I  
 feel
 good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
 the
 web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump  
 in
 to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
 house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year  
 old
 daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
 how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
 difficulty.
 Absolutely love my new Mac!

 On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:

>
> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to
> go
> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
> you
> and I
> can use while we're learning!
> Really, its not that bad.
>
> Tom K.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peninnah" 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: just got my mac today
>
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
> guys
> with
> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new  
> to
> the Mac
> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
> me.  I am
> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient  
> with
> us new
> folks.
>
> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
> Ipod nano
> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
> it with
> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
> and start
> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
> will
> happen when I switch?
> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>
>
> Peninnah Fleischer
>
>
>
>
>
>>


>
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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

Okay thank you, I'll go get that right now.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:30 AM, kaare dehard wrote:

>
> My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com
>
> This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn
> yahoo and various other chat clients.
>
>
> On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
>> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
>> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to  
>> scramble
>> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
>> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
>> what would you guys recommend I use?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice  
>>> you
>>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>>

Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I  
 feel
 good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
 the
 web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump  
 in
 to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
 house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year  
 old
 daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
 how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
 difficulty.
 Absolutely love my new Mac!

 On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:

>
> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to
> go
> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that
> you
> and I
> can use while we're learning!
> Really, its not that bad.
>
> Tom K.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peninnah" 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: just got my mac today
>
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you
> guys
> with
> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new  
> to
> the Mac
> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
> me.  I am
> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient  
> with
> us new
> folks.
>
> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
> Ipod nano
> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
> it with
> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
> and start
> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
> will
> happen when I switch?
> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>
>
> Peninnah Fleischer
>
>
>
>
>
>>


>
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>>>

>>
>>
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>
> >


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Re: just got my mac today

[chantel cuddemi]

Adium works with msn messenger. The latest version of adium is 1.3.3
If you go
http://www.adiumx.com, you cna find the download for adium.
Hth,
Chante.
On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to scramble
> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
> what would you guys recommend I use?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice you
>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>> Will
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I feel
>>> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
>>> the
>>> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump in
>>> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
>>> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year old
>>> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
>>> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
>>> difficulty.
>>> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>>>

 Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to
 go
 through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that  
 you
 and I
 can use while we're learning!
 Really, its not that bad.

 Tom K.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Peninnah" 
 To: "macvisionaries" 
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
 Subject: just got my mac today



 Hi:

 I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you  
 guys
 with
 questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new to
 the Mac
 coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
 me.  I am
 really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with
 us new
 folks.

 There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
 Ipod nano
 four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
 it with
 my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
 and start
 over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
 will
 happen when I switch?
 Thanks again you guys for being here for me.


 Peninnah Fleischer





>
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>>>

>>
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favirites

[Wendy Mitchell]

Hi,  Can i transfer my favorites from my windows computer to my mac so that 
i don't have to type them all in manually?
>From Wendy.

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Re: Vlc and eye tv question once again.

[Brandon Misch]

either that or something but the issue was fixed earlier this morning.

On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:27 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:

>
> Hide the genius bar?
>
>
> Mark BurningHawk
>
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Fixed it... LOL

[Mike]

Hi all:

Fixed the iTunes issue.
Simply down graded to 8.0. LOL Not sure if 8.1.1 is any better,
nervous to try.

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Re: just got my mac today

[kaare dehard]

My recommendation is adium from http://www.adiumx.com

This is a multi-purpose client which really does a good job for msn  
yahoo and various other chat clients.


On 8-Apr-09, at 8:03 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am
> hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit
> nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to scramble
> it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a
> messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so
> what would you guys recommend I use?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice you
>> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
>> Will
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I feel
>>> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse
>>> the
>>> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump in
>>> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
>>> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year old
>>> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
>>> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any
>>> difficulty.
>>> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>>>

 Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to
 go
 through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that  
 you
 and I
 can use while we're learning!
 Really, its not that bad.

 Tom K.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Peninnah" 
 To: "macvisionaries" 
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
 Subject: just got my mac today



 Hi:

 I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you  
 guys
 with
 questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new to
 the Mac
 coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
 me.  I am
 really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with
 us new
 folks.

 There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
 Ipod nano
 four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
 it with
 my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
 and start
 over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
 will
 happen when I switch?
 Thanks again you guys for being here for me.


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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

Thanks, My first challenge of today is going to be my Ipod and I am  
hoping it goes as smoothly as everything else has gone. I am a bit  
nervous because I had it set up for windows and don't want to scramble  
it's little brain by changing computers. I also want to get a  
messenger client today.  Most of my friends use windows messenger so  
what would you guys recommend I use?

Thanks

On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:39 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
> your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice you
> set in the speech control panel under system preferences
> Will
>
> On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:
>
>>
>>  Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I feel
>> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse  
>> the
>> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump in
>> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
>> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year old
>> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
>> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any  
>> difficulty.
>> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to  
>>> go
>>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that you
>>> and I
>>> can use while we're learning!
>>> Really, its not that bad.
>>>
>>> Tom K.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Peninnah" 
>>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you guys
>>> with
>>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new to
>>> the Mac
>>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>>> me.  I am
>>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with
>>> us new
>>> folks.
>>>
>>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
>>> Ipod nano
>>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
>>> it with
>>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
>>> and start
>>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
>>> will
>>> happen when I switch?
>>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
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Re: just got my mac today

[william lomas]

your files will stay on the  ipod and it will use whichever voice you  
set in the speech control panel under system preferences
Will

On 8 Apr 2009, at 12:36, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
>   Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I feel
> good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse the
> web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump in
> to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the
> house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year old
> daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at
> how easily things set up. My printer was found without any difficulty.
> Absolutely love my new Mac!
>
> On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to go
>> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that you
>> and I
>> can use while we're learning!
>> Really, its not that bad.
>>
>> Tom K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Peninnah" 
>> To: "macvisionaries" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
>> Subject: just got my mac today
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you guys
>> with
>> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new to
>> the Mac
>> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for
>> me.  I am
>> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with
>> us new
>> folks.
>>
>> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an
>> Ipod nano
>> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use
>> it with
>> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it
>> and start
>> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what
>> will
>> happen when I switch?
>> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>>
>>
>> Peninnah Fleischer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: just got my mac today

[Peggy Fleischer]

Yes and I think I need some of that about now lol! Actually, I feel  
good about my progress so far. My mail is working and I can browse the  
web successfully. I also got Skype working yesterday.  I did bump in  
to a wall in my house yesterday because I forgot which end of the  
house I was in and walked in the wrong direction lol! My 16 year old  
daughter had a good laugh at my expense. I continue to be amazed at  
how easily things set up. My printer was found without any difficulty.
Absolutely love my new Mac!

On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Tom K wrote:

>
> Hi, I just got mine about a week ago, so I know what your going to go
> through!  Big Grin!  Your local drug store carries hair dye that you  
> and I
> can use while we're learning!
> Really, its not that bad.
>
>  Tom K.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peninnah" 
> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:26 PM
> Subject: just got my mac today
>
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I just got my macbook today so I will probably be pestering you guys  
> with
> questions over the next week or so as I learn.  I am totally new to  
> the Mac
> coming from the windows environment so this is a real change for  
> me.  I am
> really glad this list is here and that you guys are so patient with  
> us new
> folks.
>
> There is one thing I have been wondering about already. I have an  
> Ipod nano
> four and had it with my windows computer and Itunes. I want to use  
> it with
> my Mac and was wondering if I will need to dump everything off it  
> and start
> over or not? also I have the voices enabled and was wondering what  
> will
> happen when I switch?
> Thanks again you guys for being here for me.
>
>
> Peninnah Fleischer
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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