Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
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RE: Finding An Old Love On A New Device
Hello Thuy, This is a very good question, According to my research, it is possible to use a third-party synthesizer as the voice used on the Nanno when syncing from a Mac. However, from what I can tell, in order to accomplish this, in addition to having the latest version of iTunes, you must also have an iPod Nanno 5th generation device. Of course, Apple makes no guarantees as to the compatibility of third party speech engines. Mark Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The Secret Life of Mark Marcus Live Talk Show http://candleshore.com/secrets -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thuy Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:04 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Finding An Old Love On A New Device Hey Mark. Is it possible to generate voice clips with other TTS engines on the Mac? When I set up my girlfriend's shuffle with VO, it automatically used Alex, and I didn't have any choices. I wanted to use one of the Acapella voices from Infovox, but wasn't able to do that even when I had set up the system voice to Lucy or Rachel. Any ideas? Cheers Thuy On 10/05/2010, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, I am cross-posting this to both the Mac and iPhone mailing lists for reasons that I hope members of both will understand. If not, then, I hope you will appreciate the mystery. (Smile) CHAPTER 1: As my iPhone 3GS is my primary means of communicating with the outside world, VoiceOver is the synthesizer I use the most. As we all know, the lovely Samantha is the US English voice/personality. Unlike many I have talked to, I really adore her and for quite a while have been searching for a way to bring her to my MacBook Pro. The search has not gone well. CHAPTER 2: I exercise 5 days out of the week. I run between 6 to 7 miles during each session. Until recently, I was moderately satisfied with an off-the-shelf MP3 player, used to listen to either music or podcasts during my runs. It had always been my intention to purchase RockBox but, as I do not own a compatible device, the purchase had been placed on the virtual shelf, to coin a phrase. CHAPTER 3: Three days ago, I stopped in at one of my local Apple stores. While there, I decided to purchase a 16GB Black 5th Generation iPod Nanno. Upon attaching the Nanno to my Windows iTunes PC, I discovered that I could generate the menu and items voice from any of my computer system's installed voices. As I have both ZoomText and Jaws installed on the computer in question, I have a wide variety of high quality SAPI 5 voices from which to choose. I was almost ready to make a selection when I discovered that there is an option to generate the Nanno's spoken menu and items synthesizer using VoiceOver. Generating spoken menus and items using VoiceOver via a Windows computer? Yep!!! You heard me right. Ever the Curious George, I selected this option. Imagine my delight to discover that after iTunes and the Nanno danced the Technology Tango, I found that my old love, Samantha, is the synthesized voice on my new Nanno. CHAPTER 4: So, instead of purchasing both a new MP3 player and a copy of RockBox, I will now use my new Nanno, graced with the presence of my beloved Samantha, to, as the saying should have gone, Run west, young man, run west. Oh! And for those of you who may be wondering why I simply don't use my iPhone 3GS as an MP3 player during my runs? It's because I can more easily protect the Nanno against sweat and damage. Also, I prefer to conserve as much battery power on my 3GS as possible. The End Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
Hi, very interesting but does anyone know if it works with VO? Cheers, Phil Sent from my iPhone Find me on Twitter at www.Twitter .com/stepphil Skype me via philstephenson On 10 May 2010, at 10:26 PM, Chantel Cuddemi jawsgir...@gmail.com wrote: I thought this might interest you. Begin forwarded message: From: Smith Micro smithmi...@reply.digitalriver.com Date: May 10, 2010 5:42:14 AM EDT To: Chantel Cuddemi jawsgir...@gmail.com Subject: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off Reply-To: smithmi...@reply.digitalriver.com If you are having trouble viewing this email, click here. If you no longer wish to receive customer-only email offers from Smith Micro, please unsubscribe here. Save over 60% on RapidWeaver, website creation for everyone. Buy now for just $29.99! RapidWeaver is a friendly piece of web design software that helps you create and publish great-looking websites, blogs, photo albums and more. RapidWeaver gives you all the power and none of the complexity of modern web design. Buy RapidWeaver now and save over 60%! You pay only $29.99 (reg. $79.99). Reg. $79.99 | YOU SAVE OVER 60% ONLY $29.99 There are no worries with our 30-day, no questions asked return policy. Drag and Drop Site Creation Photo and Movie Albums iPhoto Integration Mac, FTP and SFTP Publishing Leopard Ready Built-In Image Editing Blogging with RSS and Podcasting Smart Publishing Fully-Editable Code Generates XHTML Valid Sites Powerful Plug-in Architecture Live PHP Rendering System requirements: G4, G5 or Intel Processor; Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.2 or greater, 50 MB disk space. Website creation exclusively for Mac beginners and pros! Buy RapidWeaver today for only $29.99, regular price $79.99—YOU SA VE OVER 60%! BUY DIGITAL BUY PHYSICAL No knowledge of complex HTML is required, RapidWeaver takes care of all that for you. Many powerful features are available for professionals and high-end users! Easy Website Creation RapidWeaver makes it incredibly easy to create and publish beautiful, personalized websites in minutes. Create blogs, photo albums, movie pages, styled text and more with the click of a button. Professionally-Designed Themes Start with one of the dozens of professionally designed themes, customize colors and layout, and simply drag and drop in your content. Awesome Slideshows RapidWeaver produces stunning Flash-based slideshows from your photos. With iPhoto integration, just select your photos and RapidWeaver will do the rest. Power Blogging Make a sharp-looking blog and take it to the next level with podcasting, inline comments, RSS feeds, custom permalink tag support, search engine code optimization and more. ...and Pro Features! RapidWeaver includes features for high-end users, such as live PHP rendering, Smart Publishing, XHTML and CSS based site output, editable source code, built-in error checking and much more! Start publishing online and save over 60% now! Buy RapidWeaver today for only $29.99, regular price $79.99—YOU SA VE OVER 60%! BUY DIGITAL BUY PHYSICAL 63786200 This message was intended for: jawsgir...@gmail.com For more information on why you're receiving this email, click here. Update your preferences | Unsubscribe | Privacy Policy Smith Micro Software 185 Westridge Drive Watsonville, CA 95076 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: VMWare Fusion and installing Windows 7
Should be able to do it using the custom install. I had to do that when trying to install it over an xp box. I have also been told that this is the better way to instll it when faced with upgrade install problems so give it a go. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carter Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 8:13 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VMWare Fusion and installing Windows 7 Hi, Does anyone know if it is possible to use a Windows 7 upgrade CD to do a clean install of Windows 7 in to a fusion version 3 virtual machine? For me the installation stops shortly after it starts saying that a valid version of Windows is not found on the machine. Thanks, Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Audible.com Experience
Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Audible.com Experience
Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Audible.com Experience
HI, I dohn't think so but would have to check - I thought it allowed playing elsewhere Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:28 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
Hi, Two things to check: (1) Did you activate the stream for Audible books? I think the device may be constructed, like a number of other mp3 players, so that it can only be activated under Windows. If it is already activated to permit it to play Audible books on the Windows side, you should have no problems transferring over Audible books from you Mac. (2) Audible introduced a new enhanced audio format recently that is better than their previous best quality (format 4). Although it's unlikely that your default download format is set to this enhanced audio format, the stream is not one of the devices that can play this format. It can play format 4. HTH Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 02:34, RATTRAY J. wrote: HI, I dohn't think so but would have to check - I thought it allowed playing elsewhere Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:28 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
It sounds like the download might not of completed properly. This has happened to me from time to time using audible. Download the book again from your library and then see what happens. hth On May 11, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Rich Ring wrote: Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
It also doesn't mention accessibility. :) On May 11, 2010, at 1:25 AM, william lomas wrote: shame can't try it first On May 11, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: that is cool Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
Hi, Not a lot of places do. Even if it isn't mentioned, it doesn't have to be in any release notes and, in some instances, the developer doesn't know. SO I wouldn't base my opinion on that. :) It may still be accessible. It's one of those trial and error situations. I have a lot of applications installed where the developer is surprised it's working that well. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: It also doesn't mention accessibility. :) On May 11, 2010, at 1:25 AM, william lomas wrote: shame can't try it first On May 11, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: that is cool Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Interesting, I've heard of him, but haven't read his work previously. Thanks for sending. Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Navigation in Preview
Hi, folk, I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says next. When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Navigation in Preview
to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. On 11 May 2010, at 15:02, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says next. When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
It's an interesting read and I'm not about to disagree with someone like him. Thanks for the link; your right - he has come up in an hci module I've just finished. On 11/05/2010, olivia norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I've heard of him, but haven't read his work previously. Thanks for sending. Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Navigation in Preview
How does this work on the new Apple keyboards with no page down function? I have the same issue. Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 10:11 AM, marie Howarth wrote: to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. On 11 May 2010, at 15:02, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says next. When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Shoot! I'm not afraid to disagree with him, no matter who he is. Why not use proper naming when discussing a piece of technology? The Dock is not a Tab bar, and it is plainly visible. Also, it seems the article left out so much else of what the iPad has to offer. On May 11, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: It's an interesting read and I'm not about to disagree with someone like him. Thanks for the link; your right - he has come up in an hci module I've just finished. On 11/05/2010, olivia norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I've heard of him, but haven't read his work previously. Thanks for sending. Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Pete, This is not a product review. It is a summary of an academic study. In the summary that you read, he isn't expressing his personal like or dislike for the iPad. His conclusion is based on the results of the testing of the people in his study. The way those tests work is they tell the person to do something, without telling them how, and they observe how the person tries to accomplish the task. How long it takes a person to accomplish a task, how many mistakes they make, and even things like their frustration level are logged. In user interface design, the goal is to design interfaces that work like people expect, not to train people to work a particular interface. Of course, nothing is always obvious to all people, but the goal is to make the operation as obvious to as many people as is possible. Some of this won't apply to blind people. VoiceOver gives blindies clues about what is clickable and what isn't. Sighted people don't have any automatic cues, like clickable things are circled or highlighted, though. As far as the buttons at the bottom, that might be obvious to you, but not necessarily obvious to a sighted person. In western language, flow starts at the top left, and continues down while scanning across each row. Even though sighted people can see an entire screen at once, they can't focus on all of it read it all at once. Since they're trained, through reading, to scan left to right, top to bottom, this is also the common pattern that they use to scan a screen like the iPad. Of course, any experienced iPad user will eventually learn to look to the bottom for buttons to switch between pages, but that is something that must be learned. The more obvious way to do it is to put tabs at the top of the window. A sighted person looking at cards in a card file, for example, will see labeled tabs sticking out of the top of the cards. That's why multi page dialog boxes on Windows and OSX display their dialogs this way. This whole left to right, top to bottom approach is also why the OSX menu bar is at the top of the screen, while the dock is at the bottom. Any user wondering where should I go next, or how do I get back to the screen that does that thing, will naturally start looking at the top of the screen. Beyond that, there are gesture reasons for the menu bar being up there, such as the mouse gesture for zipping to the top of the screen is very easy (just push the mouse away from you). By contrast, the dock, at the bottom, is the last thing they see. This is because you're likely to need to perform actions in the current program before you need to switch to another constantly. Also, the dock isn't extremely useful to sighted users, as most of them would just switch to another app by clicking a visible portion of one of the app's windows. Apple has very strong interface guidelines for designing desktop apps, but they aren't as strict, at least in that area, for mobile apps. So, he says that developers are left to their own ideas about how apps should work, and the result is that not everyone knows what to expect from app to app. Anyway, all that to say that this guy is an expert in user interface design, and his highly informed and tested conclusion is that better choices could have been made to make it so that the iPad's operation was more obvious to untrained people than it is now. Bryan On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this
RE: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
You're right. It isn't a tab bar. However, lots of iPhone and iPad apps try to use it that way. Have you used the App Store or Skype? They put buttons at the bottom of the screen, where the dock should be, that are used for switching between pages of the current view (tabs). Those tab buttons should be at the top of the screen. Anyone that has seen how any other graphical user interface works would expect the layout to be like that. It wouldn't cost app developers anything in terms of screen space to just put the buttons at the top, instead of the bottom. Not sure why the trend started of putting them at the bottom. Apple doesn't say that they should, and it has probably become monkey see, monkey do, in terms of copying existing programs. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad Shoot! I'm not afraid to disagree with him, no matter who he is. Why not use proper naming when discussing a piece of technology? The Dock is not a Tab bar, and it is plainly visible. Also, it seems the article left out so much else of what the iPad has to offer. On May 11, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: It's an interesting read and I'm not about to disagree with someone like him. Thanks for the link; your right - he has come up in an hci module I've just finished. On 11/05/2010, olivia norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I've heard of him, but haven't read his work previously. Thanks for sending. Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I don't know if many on this list will be familiar with the work of Jacob Nielsen. For those who don't know him, he's one of the foremost minds in the field of interaction design. Those who took (or are taking) computer science at University may have encountered his work during courses in HCI or User-Interaction design. He is well-known for the famous Nielsen's 10 heuristics which play a major part in interface design. Anyway he's done some testing on the iPad. I don't have one myself, and don't have a personal interest in getting one (though I may get one for my lab to do some projects on), but I thought the link below might interest some people on the list. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ipad.html Enjoy, Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this
Re: Navigation in Preview
See, I knew I was missing something. Yes, Marie, interacting with the text works great. :) Olivia, the only thing I could think of is to use the go to page function, command-shift-g. No page functions on the new keyboards? That's very odd. Teresa On May 11, 7:11 am, marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote: to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. On 11 May 2010, at 15:02, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says next. When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mack Mini and Monitor?
But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the
Re: Audible.com Experience
Rich: I have a hunch, and it's just that, that to load the book onto the VRS, using the Mac, you might want to use the Audible Manager software. That will allow you to authorize and activate the stream, and to manage where the book goes. I haven't actually done this. But, I ran across some difficulty linking Audible, the Mac and the VRS. And, I believe the Audible Download Manager could well be the solution. Let us know how you resolve it. Carolyn CH:) - Original Message - From: Rich Ring To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Navigation in Preview
Oops, I meant command-option-g. Sorry. Teresa On May 11, 7:11 am, marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote: to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. On 11 May 2010, at 15:02, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says next. When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Ok. Yes I'll admit it was a Usability Study, and not a review. And I also agree that things could be changed to make it more usable to the masses, but, I think, also, that in this day and time, people are going to get a chance to experience some how it works information prior to sitting down with it. I also feel that there are very few products (especially computers) that are automatically useable out of the box without some form of study. That's why there are quick start guides and the like. Also, I think that the majority of iPad buyers will have had experience with another Apple product, thus allowing them the ability to figure out the interface. On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Pete, This is not a product review. It is a summary of an academic study. In the summary that you read, he isn't expressing his personal like or dislike for the iPad. His conclusion is based on the results of the testing of the people in his study. The way those tests work is they tell the person to do something, without telling them how, and they observe how the person tries to accomplish the task. How long it takes a person to accomplish a task, how many mistakes they make, and even things like their frustration level are logged. In user interface design, the goal is to design interfaces that work like people expect, not to train people to work a particular interface. Of course, nothing is always obvious to all people, but the goal is to make the operation as obvious to as many people as is possible. Some of this won't apply to blind people. VoiceOver gives blindies clues about what is clickable and what isn't. Sighted people don't have any automatic cues, like clickable things are circled or highlighted, though. As far as the buttons at the bottom, that might be obvious to you, but not necessarily obvious to a sighted person. In western language, flow starts at the top left, and continues down while scanning across each row. Even though sighted people can see an entire screen at once, they can't focus on all of it read it all at once. Since they're trained, through reading, to scan left to right, top to bottom, this is also the common pattern that they use to scan a screen like the iPad. Of course, any experienced iPad user will eventually learn to look to the bottom for buttons to switch between pages, but that is something that must be learned. The more obvious way to do it is to put tabs at the top of the window. A sighted person looking at cards in a card file, for example, will see labeled tabs sticking out of the top of the cards. That's why multi page dialog boxes on Windows and OSX display their dialogs this way. This whole left to right, top to bottom approach is also why the OSX menu bar is at the top of the screen, while the dock is at the bottom. Any user wondering where should I go next, or how do I get back to the screen that does that thing, will naturally start looking at the top of the screen. Beyond that, there are gesture reasons for the menu bar being up there, such as the mouse gesture for zipping to the top of the screen is very easy (just push the mouse away from you). By contrast, the dock, at the bottom, is the last thing they see. This is because you're likely to need to perform actions in the current program before you need to switch to another constantly. Also, the dock isn't extremely useful to sighted users, as most of them would just switch to another app by clicking a visible portion of one of the app's windows. Apple has very strong interface guidelines for designing desktop apps, but they aren't as strict, at least in that area, for mobile apps. So, he says that developers are left to their own ideas about how apps should work, and the result is that not everyone knows what to expect from app to app. Anyway, all that to say that this guy is an expert in user interface design, and his highly informed and tested conclusion is that better choices could have been made to make it so that the iPad's operation was more obvious to untrained people than it is now. Bryan On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the iPad and for that matter probably hates Apple's way of doing things. On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
it's quite a big risk for $30 though Nick. On 11 May 2010, at 14:21, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Not a lot of places do. Even if it isn't mentioned, it doesn't have to be in any release notes and, in some instances, the developer doesn't know. SO I wouldn't base my opinion on that. :) It may still be accessible. It's one of those trial and error situations. I have a lot of applications installed where the developer is surprised it's working that well. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: It also doesn't mention accessibility. :) On May 11, 2010, at 1:25 AM, william lomas wrote: shame can't try it first On May 11, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: that is cool Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
and if they haven't had that option, the PdF guide will help them along the way :) On 11 May 2010, at 16:00, Pete Nalda wrote: Ok. Yes I'll admit it was a Usability Study, and not a review. And I also agree that things could be changed to make it more usable to the masses, but, I think, also, that in this day and time, people are going to get a chance to experience some how it works information prior to sitting down with it. I also feel that there are very few products (especially computers) that are automatically useable out of the box without some form of study. That's why there are quick start guides and the like. Also, I think that the majority of iPad buyers will have had experience with another Apple product, thus allowing them the ability to figure out the interface. On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Pete, This is not a product review. It is a summary of an academic study. In the summary that you read, he isn't expressing his personal like or dislike for the iPad. His conclusion is based on the results of the testing of the people in his study. The way those tests work is they tell the person to do something, without telling them how, and they observe how the person tries to accomplish the task. How long it takes a person to accomplish a task, how many mistakes they make, and even things like their frustration level are logged. In user interface design, the goal is to design interfaces that work like people expect, not to train people to work a particular interface. Of course, nothing is always obvious to all people, but the goal is to make the operation as obvious to as many people as is possible. Some of this won't apply to blind people. VoiceOver gives blindies clues about what is clickable and what isn't. Sighted people don't have any automatic cues, like clickable things are circled or highlighted, though. As far as the buttons at the bottom, that might be obvious to you, but not necessarily obvious to a sighted person. In western language, flow starts at the top left, and continues down while scanning across each row. Even though sighted people can see an entire screen at once, they can't focus on all of it read it all at once. Since they're trained, through reading, to scan left to right, top to bottom, this is also the common pattern that they use to scan a screen like the iPad. Of course, any experienced iPad user will eventually learn to look to the bottom for buttons to switch between pages, but that is something that must be learned. The more obvious way to do it is to put tabs at the top of the window. A sighted person looking at cards in a card file, for example, will see labeled tabs sticking out of the top of the cards. That's why multi page dialog boxes on Windows and OSX display their dialogs this way. This whole left to right, top to bottom approach is also why the OSX menu bar is at the top of the screen, while the dock is at the bottom. Any user wondering where should I go next, or how do I get back to the screen that does that thing, will naturally start looking at the top of the screen. Beyond that, there are gesture reasons for the menu bar being up there, such as the mouse gesture for zipping to the top of the screen is very easy (just push the mouse away from you). By contrast, the dock, at the bottom, is the last thing they see. This is because you're likely to need to perform actions in the current program before you need to switch to another constantly. Also, the dock isn't extremely useful to sighted users, as most of them would just switch to another app by clicking a visible portion of one of the app's windows. Apple has very strong interface guidelines for designing desktop apps, but they aren't as strict, at least in that area, for mobile apps. So, he says that developers are left to their own ideas about how apps should work, and the result is that not everyone knows what to expect from app to app. Anyway, all that to say that this guy is an expert in user interface design, and his highly informed and tested conclusion is that better choices could have been made to make it so that the iPad's operation was more obvious to untrained people than it is now. Bryan On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint. Also, he didn't even review the built in apps at all. What about ibooks? I'm sorry, I still get the idea he just wants to hate the
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Website creation for beginners and pros - NOW over 60% off
Hi, Sure, but if it isn't accessible, someone has to let them know about it if it really is such a cool product. And I bet that someone has purchased it that we don't know of. It isn't me, though, but I might. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 6:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: it's quite a big risk for $30 though Nick. On 11 May 2010, at 14:21, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Not a lot of places do. Even if it isn't mentioned, it doesn't have to be in any release notes and, in some instances, the developer doesn't know. SO I wouldn't base my opinion on that. :) It may still be accessible. It's one of those trial and error situations. I have a lot of applications installed where the developer is surprised it's working that well. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: It also doesn't mention accessibility. :) On May 11, 2010, at 1:25 AM, william lomas wrote: shame can't try it first On May 11, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: that is cool Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Hi, I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work. The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos. Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Probably just SVideo or RCA composite video connectors then. CB Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work. The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos. Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with
Re: Permissions on FIles Moved
My guess is he needs to change the owner of the file. If you do an ls -l on files in both locations it should list an owner name which should be the shortname for the account, along with the permissions. Might want to do a man on chown and chgrp which are the commands to change a file's owner and group. CB Scott Howell wrote: Folks, I haven't done a lot of this, but a friend of mine has moved files from his folder to his daughter's. However, those files do not show up in the Finder when he logs into her account. He moved these initially via Terminal. He believes the permissions are correct, but I suspect there is something that is still needing to be done. ANy thoughts appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Emulators for other OS's on the Mac
I didn't notice a reply to this one. You'll pay $40 or more to get Parallels so might as well upgrade to Fusion 3. It also seems to be the best of the bunch on a number of fronts. CB Rob Lambert wrote: I had a copy of VMWare Fusion, but wasn't willing to pay the $40 upgrade fee for Version 3. VirtualBox doesn't seem to be working. One quick note is that I'm a magnifier user, so I don't have to worry about VoiceOver too much. Does anyone know of a good emulator I could use? I've considered Parallels, but haven't had any experience with it. Also, it should be noted that using VMWare Fusion, I was able to seamlessly use the Macintosh Zoom utility inside of the virtual machine without any problems, so being able to do that on the new one would be a must. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- RE: Audible.com Experience
I've been downloading and copying the files to a Victor Stream right along with a Mac without a problem. Itunes is the default app but I never use Itunes to play them. On May 11, 2010, at 8:34 AM, RATTRAY J. wrote: HI, I dohn't think so but would have to check - I thought it allowed playing elsewhere Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:28 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
The only time mine forgets the library is if I hold don't he option key if I launch it that way. Try not doing that and you will get along fine. Good luck. S On May 11, 2010, at 4:59 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Hi, Yes, iTunes can burn, but the original question is actually whether VLC can burn and rip CDs. The good thing about VLC is that it does not organize music into libraries, so it is very similar to Winamp in that case. VLC will simply take the files you select and play them, whereas iTunes takes a little while to process huge amounts of music. You also do not have to worry about what you are actually adding, and it will not be filtered into different categories. If you want something to play music without a library-based structure, VLC is the key here. iTunes is great for a lot of things, and I primarily use iTunes as well though I see the benefit of VLC. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Sarah: I know people have gotten their macs to sync other libraries, such as from an iPhone. Are you saying you can hold down Option key during the launch to choose a different library? TIA Carolyn - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: alternative media player to iTune Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Permissions on FIles Moved
Thanks and he had the correct owner. Not sure what happen, but the issue was corrected. Like I said, an @ sign ended up on the owner's name if I recall correctly. Either way, something got hosed, but we got it cleared up. Permissions can be a funny thing and sure can cause some problems. :) tnx, On May 11, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: My guess is he needs to change the owner of the file. If you do an ls -l on files in both locations it should list an owner name which should be the shortname for the account, along with the permissions. Might want to do a man on chown and chgrp which are the commands to change a file's owner and group. CB Scott Howell wrote: Folks, I haven't done a lot of this, but a friend of mine has moved files from his folder to his daughter's. However, those files do not show up in the Finder when he logs into her account. He moved these initially via Terminal. He believes the permissions are correct, but I suspect there is something that is still needing to be done. ANy thoughts appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Hi, Yes. As soon as you hit enter on iTunes, hold down the option key until the dialog pops up. You have three options. Quit, Create Library or CHoose Library. I think they're pretty self-explanatory, so I won't go into that. Additionally, you can also launch iTune into Safe Mode by holding down Command-Option, which will temporarily disable all visual and device plugins currently installed if you are having iTunes problems caused by those plugins. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Carolyn wrote: Sarah: I know people have gotten their macs to sync other libraries, such as from an iPhone. Are you saying you can hold down Option key during the launch to choose a different library? TIA Carolyn - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: alternative media player to iTune Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Hi, Keep in mind, the 7 people used in the studio had experience with an iPhone and 1 had been using an iPad for a week. So these people weren't completely in the dark when it came to using the UI found on the iPad On May 11, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Ok. Yes I'll admit it was a Usability Study, and not a review. And I also agree that things could be changed to make it more usable to the masses, but, I think, also, that in this day and time, people are going to get a chance to experience some how it works information prior to sitting down with it. I also feel that there are very few products (especially computers) that are automatically useable out of the box without some form of study. That's why there are quick start guides and the like. Also, I think that the majority of iPad buyers will have had experience with another Apple product, thus allowing them the ability to figure out the interface. On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Pete, This is not a product review. It is a summary of an academic study. In the summary that you read, he isn't expressing his personal like or dislike for the iPad. His conclusion is based on the results of the testing of the people in his study. The way those tests work is they tell the person to do something, without telling them how, and they observe how the person tries to accomplish the task. How long it takes a person to accomplish a task, how many mistakes they make, and even things like their frustration level are logged. In user interface design, the goal is to design interfaces that work like people expect, not to train people to work a particular interface. Of course, nothing is always obvious to all people, but the goal is to make the operation as obvious to as many people as is possible. Some of this won't apply to blind people. VoiceOver gives blindies clues about what is clickable and what isn't. Sighted people don't have any automatic cues, like clickable things are circled or highlighted, though. As far as the buttons at the bottom, that might be obvious to you, but not necessarily obvious to a sighted person. In western language, flow starts at the top left, and continues down while scanning across each row. Even though sighted people can see an entire screen at once, they can't focus on all of it read it all at once. Since they're trained, through reading, to scan left to right, top to bottom, this is also the common pattern that they use to scan a screen like the iPad. Of course, any experienced iPad user will eventually learn to look to the bottom for buttons to switch between pages, but that is something that must be learned. The more obvious way to do it is to put tabs at the top of the window. A sighted person looking at cards in a card file, for example, will see labeled tabs sticking out of the top of the cards. That's why multi page dialog boxes on Windows and OSX display their dialogs this way. This whole left to right, top to bottom approach is also why the OSX menu bar is at the top of the screen, while the dock is at the bottom. Any user wondering where should I go next, or how do I get back to the screen that does that thing, will naturally start looking at the top of the screen. Beyond that, there are gesture reasons for the menu bar being up there, such as the mouse gesture for zipping to the top of the screen is very easy (just push the mouse away from you). By contrast, the dock, at the bottom, is the last thing they see. This is because you're likely to need to perform actions in the current program before you need to switch to another constantly. Also, the dock isn't extremely useful to sighted users, as most of them would just switch to another app by clicking a visible portion of one of the app's windows. Apple has very strong interface guidelines for designing desktop apps, but they aren't as strict, at least in that area, for mobile apps. So, he says that developers are left to their own ideas about how apps should work, and the result is that not everyone knows what to expect from app to app. Anyway, all that to say that this guy is an expert in user interface design, and his highly informed and tested conclusion is that better choices could have been made to make it so that the iPad's operation was more obvious to untrained people than it is now. Bryan On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes some valid points, I get the feeling he just doesn't like the iPad. That's ok, but the first thing he complains about is the dock. I had no problem noticing it myself. I think that anyone would be inclined to study the whole screen, and not just the top, and I'd bet that people would read reviews where they talk about it. Also that Tab Bar is called a Dock. The rest of the review just sort of follows this complaint.
Re: Navigation in Preview
Hi, As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview. If you can't read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings under the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press V to go to the View menu, arrow down, press P to go to PDF Display, right arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is checked. The default is Single Page Continuous. If Single Page is checked, VoiceOver will stop reading at the end of each page. This setting can be useful if, for some reason your PDF book starts reading each page in the middle due to a conversion or format problem. In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, Command-Left arrow to move the previous page. Also, if your PDF supports Table of Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with the Outline View where the contents are listed and selected a section (e.g., for one of the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening the eBook in Preview, tab to Outline View, Table, no selection; interact, and select a section, then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to the main document section of Preview, you can then use Command-Up arrow to move to the start of the previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to move the start of the next chapter. These correspond to the places you would select by navigating up and down in the Outline View. If the sidebar is not showing Outline view, but is instead displaying thumbnails or search results because you used Command-F to find a string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to search for Menu Button (e.g., VO-I, then type b u t, press return, and arrow down to the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to Table of Contents. VO-Up arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the contents. This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF. Olivia, I don't know whether the new keyboards you were asking about are laptop type keyboards without the page up and page down keys, but I'll paste in part of an old post describing how pressing the Fn key in combination with the arrow keys can generate the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys of full keyboards. Hello Carolyn, Phil, and Others On any MacBook, MacBook Pro, or other laptops such as the earlier PowerBook and iBook series, the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys can be accessed by pressing the Fn key in conjunction with the Arrow keys. The easy way to check this for yourself is by turning on VoiceOver's keyboard help (VO-K), then hold down the Fn key and press each of the arrow keys in succession. You'll hear: Fn+Left Arrow Home Fn+Right Arrow End Fn +Up Arrow Page Up Fn+Down Arrow Page Down and, if I can add a couple of other keys on the right side of the laptop keyboard, pressed together with the Fn key: Fn+Delete Forward Delete Fn +Return Enter The consequences of this are that commands to go to the beginning or end of a list or table, like VO-Home and VO-End, or VO-Shift-Home and VO-Shift-End to move to the first or last word in a list or table with scrolling, is that a laptop user, after interacting, will use: VO+Fn+Left Arrow to move to the first visible word in a list, table, or web page VO+Fn+Right Arrow to move to the last visible word in a list, table, or web page In a table like the Mail messages table or the Songs table of iTunes, where the list is longer than the visible page, you will want to use scrolling to move to the actual start or end of the list, and will also need to press the Shift key with this combination: VO+Fn+Shift+Left Arrow to move to the first word in a list or table with scrolling VO+Fn+Shift +Right Arrow to move to the last word in a list or table with scrolling after interacting with said list or table. Other consequences of the Fn key usage are that when using TextEdit on a Mac laptop, you can use: Fn+Down Arrow to move down a page in a document Fn+Up Arrow to move up a page in a document Fn+Delete to forward delete a character All these Fn+key combinations for laptops are specific to Mac OS X, and do not depend on using VoiceOver. HTH Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 04:46, Teresa Cochran wrote: See, I knew I was missing something. Yes, Marie, interacting with the text works great. :) Olivia, the only thing I could think of is to use the go to page function, command-shift-g. No page functions on the new keyboards? That's very odd. Teresa On May 11, 7:11 am, marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.com wrote: to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. On 11 May 2010, at 15:02,
Re: Navigation in Preview
Interesting. I also find that I loose focus when I navigate to another application. For instance, if I am reading a PDF in prieview, and go to text edit to take notes on what I'm reading, when I return to the PDF, I am placed back at the beginning of the document. This makes reading articles a frustrating experience at times. Is there a work around for this? Thanks! Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Esther wrote: Hi, As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview. If you can't read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings under the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press V to go to the View menu, arrow down, press P to go to PDF Display, right arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is checked. The default is Single Page Continuous. If Single Page is checked, VoiceOver will stop reading at the end of each page. This setting can be useful if, for some reason your PDF book starts reading each page in the middle due to a conversion or format problem. In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, Command-Left arrow to move the previous page. Also, if your PDF supports Table of Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with the Outline View where the contents are listed and selected a section (e.g., for one of the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening the eBook in Preview, tab to Outline View, Table, no selection; interact, and select a section, then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to the main document section of Preview, you can then use Command-Up arrow to move to the start of the previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to move the start of the next chapter. These correspond to the places you would select by navigating up and down in the Outline View. If the sidebar is not showing Outline view, but is instead displaying thumbnails or search results because you used Command-F to find a string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to search for Menu Button (e.g., VO-I, then type b u t, press return, and arrow down to the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to Table of Contents. VO-Up arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the contents. This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF. Olivia, I don't know whether the new keyboards you were asking about are laptop type keyboards without the page up and page down keys, but I'll paste in part of an old post describing how pressing the Fn key in combination with the arrow keys can generate the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys of full keyboards. Hello Carolyn, Phil, and Others On any MacBook, MacBook Pro, or other laptops such as the earlier PowerBook and iBook series, the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys can be accessed by pressing the Fn key in conjunction with the Arrow keys. The easy way to check this for yourself is by turning on VoiceOver's keyboard help (VO-K), then hold down the Fn key and press each of the arrow keys in succession. You'll hear: Fn+Left Arrow Home Fn+Right Arrow End Fn+Up Arrow Page Up Fn+Down Arrow Page Down and, if I can add a couple of other keys on the right side of the laptop keyboard, pressed together with the Fn key: Fn+Delete Forward Delete Fn+Return Enter The consequences of this are that commands to go to the beginning or end of a list or table, like VO-Home and VO-End, or VO-Shift-Home and VO-Shift-End to move to the first or last word in a list or table with scrolling, is that a laptop user, after interacting, will use: VO+Fn+Left Arrow to move to the first visible word in a list, table, or web page VO+Fn+Right Arrow to move to the last visible word in a list, table, or web page In a table like the Mail messages table or the Songs table of iTunes, where the list is longer than the visible page, you will want to use scrolling to move to the actual start or end of the list, and will also need to press the Shift key with this combination: VO+Fn+Shift+Left Arrow to move to the first word in a list or table with scrolling VO+Fn+Shift+Right Arrow to move to the last word in a list or table with scrolling after interacting with said list or table. Other consequences of the Fn key usage are that when using TextEdit on a Mac laptop, you can use: Fn+Down Arrow to move down a page in a document Fn+Up Arrow to move up a page in a document Fn+Delete to forward delete a character All these Fn+key combinations for laptops are specific to Mac OS X, and do not depend on using VoiceOver. HTH Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 04:46, Teresa Cochran wrote: See, I knew I was missing something. Yes, Marie,
Re: Navigation in Preview
Hi Olivia, You need to set a hot spot if you want to go back to the same location in Preview after shifting to another app. Before you navigate away from Preview, press VO-Shift-1 (or any other number key that you want to assign to th hot spot). You'll hear VoiceOver say, Save as hotspot 1. Then, you can switch applications with Command-tab, do something else, and when you return to Preview press VO-1 to get back to your hot spot location so you can resume reading where you left off. This is a workaround, and the hot spot won't be saved if you have to restart VoiceOver or if you log out. This is a bug in Preview. Preview is one of the few apps that, at least with respect to VoiceOver Navigation and focus on this point, behaved better in Tiger than in Leopard. Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 09:56, olivia norman wrote: Interesting. I also find that I loose focus when I navigate to another application. For instance, if I am reading a PDF in prieview, and go to text edit to take notes on what I'm reading, when I return to the PDF, I am placed back at the beginning of the document. This makes reading articles a frustrating experience at times. Is there a work around for this? Thanks! Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Esther wrote: Hi, As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview. If you can't read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings under the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press V to go to the View menu, arrow down, press P to go to PDF Display, right arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is checked. The default is Single Page Continuous. If Single Page is checked, VoiceOver will stop reading at the end of each page. This setting can be useful if, for some reason your PDF book starts reading each page in the middle due to a conversion or format problem. In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, Command-Left arrow to move the previous page. Also, if your PDF supports Table of Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with the Outline View where the contents are listed and selected a section (e.g., for one of the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening the eBook in Preview, tab to Outline View, Table, no selection; interact, and select a section, then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to the main document section of Preview, you can then use Command-Up arrow to move to the start of the previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to move the start of the next chapter. These correspond to the places you would select by navigating up and down in the Outline View. If the sidebar is not showing Outline view, but is instead displaying thumbnails or search results because you used Command-F to find a string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to search for Menu Button (e.g., VO-I, then type b u t, press return, and arrow down to the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to Table of Contents. VO-Up arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the contents. This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF. Olivia, I don't know whether the new keyboards you were asking about are laptop type keyboards without the page up and page down keys, but I'll paste in part of an old post describing how pressing the Fn key in combination with the arrow keys can generate the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys of full keyboards. Hello Carolyn, Phil, and Others On any MacBook, MacBook Pro, or other laptops such as the earlier PowerBook and iBook series, the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys can be accessed by pressing the Fn key in conjunction with the Arrow keys. The easy way to check this for yourself is by turning on VoiceOver's keyboard help (VO-K), then hold down the Fn key and press each of the arrow keys in succession. You'll hear: Fn+Left Arrow Home Fn+Right Arrow End Fn+Up Arrow Page Up Fn+Down Arrow Page Down and, if I can add a couple of other keys on the right side of the laptop keyboard, pressed together with the Fn key: Fn+Delete Forward Delete Fn+Return Enter The consequences of this are that commands to go to the beginning or end of a list or table, like VO- Home and VO-End, or VO-Shift-Home and VO-Shift-End to move to the first or last word in a list or table with scrolling, is that a laptop user, after interacting, will use: VO+Fn+Left Arrow to move to the first visible word in a list, table, or web page VO+Fn +Right Arrow to move to the last visible word in a list, table, or web page In a table like the Mail messages table or the Songs table of iTunes,
Re: Navigation in Preview
Thanks so much! I knew you'd have a work around! :) Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Olivia, You need to set a hot spot if you want to go back to the same location in Preview after shifting to another app. Before you navigate away from Preview, press VO-Shift-1 (or any other number key that you want to assign to th hot spot). You'll hear VoiceOver say, Save as hotspot 1. Then, you can switch applications with Command-tab, do something else, and when you return to Preview press VO-1 to get back to your hot spot location so you can resume reading where you left off. This is a workaround, and the hot spot won't be saved if you have to restart VoiceOver or if you log out. This is a bug in Preview. Preview is one of the few apps that, at least with respect to VoiceOver Navigation and focus on this point, behaved better in Tiger than in Leopard. Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 09:56, olivia norman wrote: Interesting. I also find that I loose focus when I navigate to another application. For instance, if I am reading a PDF in prieview, and go to text edit to take notes on what I'm reading, when I return to the PDF, I am placed back at the beginning of the document. This makes reading articles a frustrating experience at times. Is there a work around for this? Thanks! Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Esther wrote: Hi, As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview. If you can't read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings under the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press V to go to the View menu, arrow down, press P to go to PDF Display, right arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is checked. The default is Single Page Continuous. If Single Page is checked, VoiceOver will stop reading at the end of each page. This setting can be useful if, for some reason your PDF book starts reading each page in the middle due to a conversion or format problem. In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, Command-Left arrow to move the previous page. Also, if your PDF supports Table of Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with the Outline View where the contents are listed and selected a section (e.g., for one of the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening the eBook in Preview, tab to Outline View, Table, no selection; interact, and select a section, then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to the main document section of Preview, you can then use Command-Up arrow to move to the start of the previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to move the start of the next chapter. These correspond to the places you would select by navigating up and down in the Outline View. If the sidebar is not showing Outline view, but is instead displaying thumbnails or search results because you used Command-F to find a string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to search for Menu Button (e.g., VO-I, then type b u t, press return, and arrow down to the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to Table of Contents. VO-Up arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the contents. This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF. Olivia, I don't know whether the new keyboards you were asking about are laptop type keyboards without the page up and page down keys, but I'll paste in part of an old post describing how pressing the Fn key in combination with the arrow keys can generate the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys of full keyboards. Hello Carolyn, Phil, and Others On any MacBook, MacBook Pro, or other laptops such as the earlier PowerBook and iBook series, the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys can be accessed by pressing the Fn key in conjunction with the Arrow keys. The easy way to check this for yourself is by turning on VoiceOver's keyboard help (VO-K), then hold down the Fn key and press each of the arrow keys in succession. You'll hear: Fn+Left Arrow Home Fn+Right Arrow End Fn+Up Arrow Page Up Fn+Down Arrow Page Down and, if I can add a couple of other keys on the right side of the laptop keyboard, pressed together with the Fn key: Fn+Delete Forward Delete Fn+Return Enter The consequences of this are that commands to go to the beginning or end of a list or table, like VO-Home and VO-End, or VO-Shift-Home and VO-Shift-End to move to the first or last word in a list or table with scrolling, is that a laptop user, after interacting, will use: VO+Fn+Left Arrow to move to the first visible word in a list, table, or web page VO+Fn+Right Arrow to move to the last visible word
Re: a dialup modem for an imac
I didn't notice any replies to this and couldn't find a USB modem on the Apple Store. I guess it's kind of going the way of the floppy drive. At least around where I live it's about the same cost to get DSL as it is to add a second phone line plus ISP charges. I suspect anyone who has broadband available is not going to buy a modem these days. CB .dan. wrote: I have a year old imac and want to have an usp external modem. My local apple store has none in stock and expect none. Am I correct in thinking that there is nothing particular about a modem for current macs that is different then those for a pc? I intend to use it for a dialing device for making calls and to maybe do some faxing. For anyone in my place wanting one, what have you to suggest? XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Hey, thanks Nic. Much appreciated. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: Re: alternative media player to iTune Hi, Yes. As soon as you hit enter on iTunes, hold down the option key until the dialog pops up. You have three options. Quit, Create Library or CHoose Library. I think they're pretty self-explanatory, so I won't go into that. Additionally, you can also launch iTune into Safe Mode by holding down Command-Option, which will temporarily disable all visual and device plugins currently installed if you are having iTunes problems caused by those plugins. Regards, Nic On May 11, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Carolyn wrote: Sarah: I know people have gotten their macs to sync other libraries, such as from an iPhone. Are you saying you can hold down Option key during the launch to choose a different library? TIA Carolyn - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: alternative media player to iTune Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: a dialup modem for an imac
There was a USB modem that was sold by Apple at one time, but haven't seen it listed when I do a product search for maybe the last six months or so. So I'm thinking they may have stopped selling it. On May 11, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I didn't notice any replies to this and couldn't find a USB modem on the Apple Store. I guess it's kind of going the way of the floppy drive. At least around where I live it's about the same cost to get DSL as it is to add a second phone line plus ISP charges. I suspect anyone who has broadband available is not going to buy a modem these days. CB .dan. wrote: I have a year old imac and want to have an usp external modem. My local apple store has none in stock and expect none. Am I correct in thinking that there is nothing particular about a modem for current macs that is different then those for a pc? I intend to use it for a dialing device for making calls and to maybe do some faxing. For anyone in my place wanting one, what have you to suggest? XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a dialup modem for an imac
Hi Chris and Dan, Although you can't find Apple USB modems from the Apple Store any more, you can still buy them on Amazon and elsewhere if you do a Google search for: Apple MA034Z/A External V.2 USB Modem Alternatively, you can get a Zoom USB modem instead. There was some discussion on the macintouch web site some months ago about how these modems worked better with some of the intel Mac models than the Apple USB modem, and how at least one user had to change his OS to run in 32- bit mode in order to get his Apple USB modem to connect reliably. Here's the link to the macintouch Reader Reports site on modems: http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/modems/topic2734.html The discussions I remember date from November 2009, and there might be more recent comments. Also, for FAXing use, another good place to check is Smile On My Mac's Pagesender FAQ: http://www.smileonmymac.com/PageSender/faq.html begin excerpt Do I have a fax modem, or do I need to buy one? All Apple Internal Modems are fax modems. If your Mac came with an internal modem, you've got a fax modem. If your Mac didn't come with an internal modem, you can purchase one. Customers report happiness with the Zoom 2986 External USB Modem. Apple also offers the Apple USB Modem. end excerpt HTH Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 10:12, Chris Blouch wrote: I didn't notice any replies to this and couldn't find a USB modem on the Apple Store. I guess it's kind of going the way of the floppy drive. At least around where I live it's about the same cost to get DSL as it is to add a second phone line plus ISP charges. I suspect anyone who has broadband available is not going to buy a modem these days. CB .dan. wrote: I have a year old imac and want to have an usp external modem. My local apple store has none in stock and expect none. Am I correct in thinking that there is nothing particular about a modem for current macs that is different then those for a pc? I intend to use it for a dialing device for making calls and to maybe do some faxing. For anyone in my place wanting one, what have you to suggest? XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a dialup modem for an imac
Yup, there are modems out there, but I would emphasize that unless you really need dialup for some odd reason, broadband will be a much better user experience and probably cost less. CB Esther wrote: Hi Chris and Dan, Although you can't find Apple USB modems from the Apple Store any more, you can still buy them on Amazon and elsewhere if you do a Google search for: Apple MA034Z/A External V.2 USB Modem Alternatively, you can get a Zoom USB modem instead. There was some discussion on the macintouch web site some months ago about how these modems worked better with some of the intel Mac models than the Apple USB modem, and how at least one user had to change his OS to run in 32-bit mode in order to get his Apple USB modem to connect reliably. Here's the link to the macintouch Reader Reports site on modems: http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/modems/topic2734.html The discussions I remember date from November 2009, and there might be more recent comments. Also, for FAXing use, another good place to check is Smile On My Mac's Pagesender FAQ: http://www.smileonmymac.com/PageSender/faq.html begin excerpt Do I have a fax modem, or do I need to buy one? All Apple Internal Modems are fax modems. If your Mac came with an internal modem, you've got a fax modem. If your Mac didn't come with an internal modem, you can purchase one. Customers report happiness with the Zoom 2986 External USB Modem. Apple also offers the Apple USB Modem. end excerpt HTH Cheers, Esther On 11 May 2010, at 10:12, Chris Blouch wrote: I didn't notice any replies to this and couldn't find a USB modem on the Apple Store. I guess it's kind of going the way of the floppy drive. At least around where I live it's about the same cost to get DSL as it is to add a second phone line plus ISP charges. I suspect anyone who has broadband available is not going to buy a modem these days. CB .dan. wrote: I have a year old imac and want to have an usp external modem. My local apple store has none in stock and expect none. Am I correct in thinking that there is nothing particular about a modem for current macs that is different then those for a pc? I intend to use it for a dialing device for making calls and to maybe do some faxing. For anyone in my place wanting one, what have you to suggest? XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
No, it uses it's own ripping engine. It does import things to your itunes library for you if you want it to do that. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 2:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Well I don't think I've got a sticky option key, although this computer is two years old now. Basicly, my Itunes forgets where the library is after every update, and once every 3 weeks or so for no apparent reason. For example, suppose I want to listen to a CD. When I put the cd into the drive Itunes will open automaticly which is what it's supposed to do. If it has just updated, or if it's been two to four weeks since the last time I used it, it will make me choose my library again before playing the cd. I'm not using control option space or anything to open ITunes, it's just opening automaticly because a cd went into the drive. I don't know, shrugs. It shouldn't be that much work to listen to some tunes. Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 2:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: The only time mine forgets the library is if I hold don't he option key if I launch it that way. Try not doing that and you will get along fine. Good luck. S On May 11, 2010, at 4:59 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: network filesharing
Hum. I'm browsing for a server using the instructions below on mac OS 10.6.3, and the network attached storage shows up but you cant press enter to select it and there is no open or OK button. Anybody seen this? Thanks, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-04-13, at 2:34 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. I don't know if it would make any difference, but try to do the following: 1: Press command k to bring up the connect to server window. 2: type in or browse for the address on your netbook 3: An orthentication dialog should come up, and here you have to type the admin user and password on yur netbook. If you do that, you should admin access to all files. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Apr 13, 2010 kl. 8:28 PM skrev erik burggraaf: Hi, I'm working on a new mac mini, and it sees the file shares on my network but won't read them. I had this problem once before and solved it by doing something to network locations but I forget what I did. If you know, could you please refresh my memory? Thanks, Erik Burggraaf APlus certified technician and user support consultant Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: alternative media player to iTune
Hmm mine just wripts in itunes when I incert a cd. I'm tired I'll study this out when I'm more awake. On May 11, 2010, at 1:49 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: No, it uses it's own ripping engine. It does import things to your itunes library for you if you want it to do that. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 2:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Macs use itunes though ti rip I think? Not sure.. I've never heard of simplyburns. Take care. On May 11, 2010, at 11:31 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: It might actually but why would you want it to? Simplyburns and max do an especially good job of burning and ripping respectively, and they are free. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-11, at 12:22 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a question about VLC, can I rip my Cd's to MP3. And also, can I burn CD's with VLC? Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 7:59 in the morning, erik burggraaf wrote: It's vlc from http://www.videolan.org. I've tried at least one other, but it enforced a library. I got absolutely no joy out of anything I ever tried to do with ITunes, and half the time I'm pointing it to the location of my library which it has forgotten about just so I can play a CD. It's very irritating. They really need to scrap the entire system and rebuild it playlist based with a library option, but that will never happen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto. I'll be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for the rest of the day. http://www.erik-burggraaf.com 888-255-5194 On 2010-05-10, at 11:35 PM, Shen wrote: Hello, Wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an alternative media player to iTunes? Something less complicated, has all the keyboard shortcuts, and does not have a library. I just want something to play music. A Mac version of Winamp. -- Shen goalb...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
canon 700f lide on the mac
Hi all, I use a canon 700f lide on me mac: 10.6.3, with abby finereader express. Everything works fine except the buttons on the scanner to start the scan process or one of the other 3 functions. They work very slow or not. Is here someone who has also this problem? I would like to report this to cannon but I can't find a right contact to do that. Any hints would be very appreciated. best regards, William -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
I had this same issue. I couldn't play the files on my Book Sense. I just played them on my IPod instead. On May 11, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: It sounds like the download might not of completed properly. This has happened to me from time to time using audible. Download the book again from your library and then see what happens. hth On May 11, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Rich Ring wrote: Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
Oh! I know what the problem is! At least, I have an idea. When you copy the files over, you may also find files with names similar, prepended with ._ (a period and an underscore character). If you're trying to play those, they won't play; they're just Mac housekeeping files. Be sure you aren't trying to play those rather than the files you intend to play. Once you've got that out of the way, they should play without a hitch. (I play them on my Book Sense all the time.) -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On May 11, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I had this same issue. I couldn't play the files on my Book Sense. I just played them on my IPod instead. On May 11, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: It sounds like the download might not of completed properly. This has happened to me from time to time using audible. Download the book again from your library and then see what happens. hth On May 11, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Rich Ring wrote: Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
deauthorizing computers for Itunes?
Hi listers, I am having a strange problem. I got my mac serviced today, and as part of the repairs, they replaced the logic board. Now, however, my mac is saying that it is not authorized for some of my apps on my Ipod touch. It told me if I did not authorize the machine the apps would be deleted. I clicked on register, and then typed in my Itunes password, but the problem now is that Itunes thinks I have registered two machines. In fact, I only have one mac, and it is the only computer registered. How do I remove the previous machine registration? I looked under the store menu in Itunes, but this appears to remove the registration for the active machine you're currently on. How do I get the other machine, which is really my same mac, prior to repairs off of my account? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
I don't think there is an Audible Manager for the Mac. When I tried to find it, I seem to recall there wasn't one. On May 11, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Carolyn wrote: Rich: I have a hunch, and it's just that, that to load the book onto the VRS, using the Mac, you might want to use the Audible Manager software. That will allow you to authorize and activate the stream, and to manage where the book goes. I haven't actually done this. But, I ran across some difficulty linking Audible, the Mac and the VRS. And, I believe the Audible Download Manager could well be the solution. Let us know how you resolve it. Carolyn CH:) - Original Message - From: Rich Ring To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible.com Experience
Correct, Audible defaults to iTunes on the Mac. hth On May 11, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I don't think there is an Audible Manager for the Mac. When I tried to find it, I seem to recall there wasn't one. On May 11, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Carolyn wrote: Rich: I have a hunch, and it's just that, that to load the book onto the VRS, using the Mac, you might want to use the Audible Manager software. That will allow you to authorize and activate the stream, and to manage where the book goes. I haven't actually done this. But, I ran across some difficulty linking Audible, the Mac and the VRS. And, I believe the Audible Download Manager could well be the solution. Let us know how you resolve it. Carolyn CH:) - Original Message - From: Rich Ring To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Audible.com Experience
Yeah, I now recall something about that on the Audible site. On May 11, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Correct, Audible defaults to iTunes on the Mac. hth On May 11, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I don't think there is an Audible Manager for the Mac. When I tried to find it, I seem to recall there wasn't one. On May 11, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Carolyn wrote: Rich: I have a hunch, and it's just that, that to load the book onto the VRS, using the Mac, you might want to use the Audible Manager software. That will allow you to authorize and activate the stream, and to manage where the book goes. I haven't actually done this. But, I ran across some difficulty linking Audible, the Mac and the VRS. And, I believe the Audible Download Manager could well be the solution. Let us know how you resolve it. Carolyn CH:) - Original Message - From: Rich Ring To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: Re: Audible.com Experience Does the Mac limit where you can play the files? In other words, if you download an audible book using the Mac, will the resulting files only play using iTunes? - Original Message - From: RATTRAY J. julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: RE: Audible.com Experience Hi, I am really confused by this - I use audible all the time with the Mac and have not had the problem you are describing. Generally you don't need to install any softwere to get audible to work with the Mac - you do with Windows but not Mac. The only thing I can suggest you try is going to your download preferences and seeing what they look like. I typically have my stuff download directly into itunes so I can put them on my ipod - I seem to remember that back in the day when I set it up that I had to tell it that I wanted it to do this so perhaps download preferences - found in the my acccount pages might be the best place to start. If you don't have any luck let me know and maybe I can suggest something else. Good luck Julie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Ring Sent: 11 May 2010 13:15 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible.com Experience Hello all: I recently bought an Audible book using the Mac. Imagine my surprise when I clicked the purchase button, the book immediately started downloading. I thought, this is excellent. However, when the four parts of the title had finished downloading, and I managed to copy them to a thumb drive, I discovered that the file extensions were not correct. I then discovered that I couldn't play the files on my Stream. There must be something I'm missing here. Should I have installed the Audible Manager software before doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To
RE: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad
Besides, he isn't saying that the iPad is crap. This is a guy that lives and sleeps user interface design. He's just always thinking about how it could be better. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jacob Nielsen article on testing the iPad Hi, Keep in mind, the 7 people used in the studio had experience with an iPhone and 1 had been using an iPad for a week. So these people weren't completely in the dark when it came to using the UI found on the iPad On May 11, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Ok. Yes I'll admit it was a Usability Study, and not a review. And I also agree that things could be changed to make it more usable to the masses, but, I think, also, that in this day and time, people are going to get a chance to experience some how it works information prior to sitting down with it. I also feel that there are very few products (especially computers) that are automatically useable out of the box without some form of study. That's why there are quick start guides and the like. Also, I think that the majority of iPad buyers will have had experience with another Apple product, thus allowing them the ability to figure out the interface. On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: Pete, This is not a product review. It is a summary of an academic study. In the summary that you read, he isn't expressing his personal like or dislike for the iPad. His conclusion is based on the results of the testing of the people in his study. The way those tests work is they tell the person to do something, without telling them how, and they observe how the person tries to accomplish the task. How long it takes a person to accomplish a task, how many mistakes they make, and even things like their frustration level are logged. In user interface design, the goal is to design interfaces that work like people expect, not to train people to work a particular interface. Of course, nothing is always obvious to all people, but the goal is to make the operation as obvious to as many people as is possible. Some of this won't apply to blind people. VoiceOver gives blindies clues about what is clickable and what isn't. Sighted people don't have any automatic cues, like clickable things are circled or highlighted, though. As far as the buttons at the bottom, that might be obvious to you, but not necessarily obvious to a sighted person. In western language, flow starts at the top left, and continues down while scanning across each row. Even though sighted people can see an entire screen at once, they can't focus on all of it read it all at once. Since they're trained, through reading, to scan left to right, top to bottom, this is also the common pattern that they use to scan a screen like the iPad. Of course, any experienced iPad user will eventually learn to look to the bottom for buttons to switch between pages, but that is something that must be learned. The more obvious way to do it is to put tabs at the top of the window. A sighted person looking at cards in a card file, for example, will see labeled tabs sticking out of the top of the cards. That's why multi page dialog boxes on Windows and OSX display their dialogs this way. This whole left to right, top to bottom approach is also why the OSX menu bar is at the top of the screen, while the dock is at the bottom. Any user wondering where should I go next, or how do I get back to the screen that does that thing, will naturally start looking at the top of the screen. Beyond that, there are gesture reasons for the menu bar being up there, such as the mouse gesture for zipping to the top of the screen is very easy (just push the mouse away from you). By contrast, the dock, at the bottom, is the last thing they see. This is because you're likely to need to perform actions in the current program before you need to switch to another constantly. Also, the dock isn't extremely useful to sighted users, as most of them would just switch to another app by clicking a visible portion of one of the app's windows. Apple has very strong interface guidelines for designing desktop apps, but they aren't as strict, at least in that area, for mobile apps. So, he says that developers are left to their own ideas about how apps should work, and the result is that not everyone knows what to expect from app to app. Anyway, all that to say that this guy is an expert in user interface design, and his highly informed and tested conclusion is that better choices could have been made to make it so that the iPad's operation was more obvious to untrained people than it is now. Bryan On May 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Thanks for the article. While he makes
Re: deauthorizing computers for Itunes?
I had the same thing happen today with no changes to my mac mini. I plugged in my iPod touch to sync and iTunes told me my computer wasn't authorized and the apps would be deleted unless I authorized it. The key difference here is that nothing has changed with my mini at all! Anyone know what is causing this to happen? Rick - Original Message - From: John J Herzog johnjher...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: deauthorizing computers for Itunes? Hi listers, I am having a strange problem. I got my mac serviced today, and as part of the repairs, they replaced the logic board. Now, however, my mac is saying that it is not authorized for some of my apps on my Ipod touch. It told me if I did not authorize the machine the apps would be deleted. I clicked on register, and then typed in my Itunes password, but the problem now is that Itunes thinks I have registered two machines. In fact, I only have one mac, and it is the only computer registered. How do I remove the previous machine registration? I looked under the store menu in Itunes, but this appears to remove the registration for the active machine you're currently on. How do I get the other machine, which is really my same mac, prior to repairs off of my account? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
http://www.solona.net/ mac support
theresa.f...@gmail.com and me had time to get together at our Southern Maryland Mac User's Group meeting earlier this week and try out her script for grabbing capttas from web pages and submitting them to solona.net. There is or will be a new release of the script available for download which fixes a couple bugs found as a result of our testing. I now have an account on last.fm I didn't have before as a result of that meeting. For the script to work Xcode built for i386 needs to be installed. Theresa really would appreciate both bug reports and progress reports from anyone who is using or has tried to use that script in the past and failed to get it working, those reports if sent were not received. Theresa does more of her work with Objective C and needs practice on apple scripting, so any help offered to her for improving her apple scripting abilities will be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iTunes plugin for speeding up audio?
Hello List, Is there a plugin that can be used to speed up spoken word audio for iTunes? I know I can do this on my iPhone but it would also be nice if I could do this in iTunes itself. Thanks all, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VST plugins and Amadeus Pro
Hi, I downloaded the VST plug-ins from the Amadeus Pro site. Now how do I make them so they work with the program? Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VST plugins and Amadeus Pro
Is ther a vst folder it could scan? Take care. S On May 11, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I downloaded the VST plug-ins from the Amadeus Pro site. Now how do I make them so they work with the program? Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VST plugins and Amadeus Pro
Yes, it's the folder I downloaded it in is called VST. Where should I put it? Thanks, Courtney On 12/05/2010, at 1:05 in the morning, Sarah Alawami wrote: Is ther a vst folder it could scan? Take care. S On May 11, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I downloaded the VST plug-ins from the Amadeus Pro site. Now how do I make them so they work with the program? Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
