Re: Scrolling a PM40 display

[Naama Shang]

Hi,
Yes, I prefer this too, but unfortunately, that does not work witht he mac. 
Believe me, I wish it did.
For some reason, voice over does not allow to map those keys to this action.
Naama
On 11 Jul 2011, at 05:01, John Sanfilippo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure this will work with the mac as I have not tried. but try 
> pressing the left most cursor routing button to go left and the right most 
> button to move right. I much prefer this to the hit or miss nature of the 
> whiz wheels. But if you ar3e happy with what you have and/or what I suggest 
> just doesn't work then, problem solved.
> 
> hth,
> js
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We've hit a little problem and figure someone here will know.
> 
> Naama is using her PACMate 40 display with VoiceOver and wants to scroll the 
> display so that she can see the righthand part of the line.  But we can't 
> find a keystroke that will do this.
> 
> Does anyone know how this is done?  It must surely be possible.
> 
> Geoff.
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Re: Looking for the most accessible twitter client

[Paul Henrichsen]

Thanks to all of you. Looks like the oddly named one seems to be preferred. 
Mike, I am listening to your podcasts. I can't tell you how much I appreciate 
your doing them. I hope you do more as it really helps us new guys have 
somewhere to start. 
Thanks to all of you guys. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> Hey Paul, congrads on the new mac. The hard to pronounce one is your best 
> bet, it's from Japan I think, from what I've heard, it's very accessible, and 
> it's free in the app store.
> On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi, guys. I am a new iMac user; about two weeks; still learning my 
>> commands. I'd like to get a twitter client, but wondering which is the 
>> easiest to use.
>> I have heard about syrinx and that other one which is hard to pronounce let 
>> alone spell.
>> what would be the best one to get for a newbie?
>> Thanks.
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Re: Looking for the most accessible twitter client

[Paul Henrichsen]

Thanks, Ricardo. I am at ACB this week. Can't wait to get home and back to my 
Mac. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> I think syrinx is the easiest to use for a newby.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
>> Hi, guys. I am a new iMac user; about two weeks; still learning my 
>> commands. I'd like to get a twitter client, but wondering which is the 
>> easiest to use.
>> I have heard about syrinx and that other one which is hard to pronounce let 
>> alone spell.
>> what would be the best one to get for a newbie?
>> Thanks.
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Re: ipad2 or mbpro with lion

[Pete Nalda]

The minimum processor on Apple's site here 
http://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/ is an Intel Core 2 Duo. So I'd think 
with an '09 you should be fine, as this one was purchased in late '08 I think, 
and it has an intel Core 2 Duo.  That said, I'm not sure I'll update to lion 
just yet, as I have 2 or 3 apps I'd have to give up as they are ppc apps.

On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:38 PM, James Malone wrote:

> Well, you should be able to upgrade to Lion on your existing MBP,
> maybe? I haven't bothered to check about the 09 ones, seeing as mine
> was from last year and will work fine. Maybe just check the
> requirements?
> 
> On 7/11/11, David Geiger  wrote:
>> have a question guys  thinking about getting ipad2 vs. mbpro with
>> lion  i already have a  mid 09 mbpro with sl got it in september of
>> 09  do you think ios 5  will have more  accessability features then
>> lion  that will be cool  cant make up my mind  please help
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MarsEdit Keyboard Reference Posted

[Doug Lawlor]

hello list:
For those who are interested in the wonderful blog editor MarsEdit, I have 
posted a keyboard reference at: 
http://www.douglawlor.com/marsedit-keyboard-reference
I hope people find this helpful. I would be interested to know if people would 
want to see more keyboard reference lists like the one I have posted for other 
applications.  

I Look forward to your comments, 
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Re: Scrolling a PM40 display

[John Sanfilippo]

Hi,

I'm not sure this will work with the mac as I have not tried. but try pressing 
the left most cursor routing button to go left and the right most button to 
move right. I much prefer this to the hit or miss nature of the whiz wheels. 
But if you ar3e happy with what you have and/or what I suggest just doesn't 
work then, problem solved.

hth,
js


On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

Hi,

We've hit a little problem and figure someone here will know.

Naama is using her PACMate 40 display with VoiceOver and wants to scroll the 
display so that she can see the righthand part of the line.  But we can't find 
a keystroke that will do this.

Does anyone know how this is done?  It must surely be possible.

Geoff.

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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Scott Howell]

Mike, the goal was not to complicate anything. The initial goal was to just get 
up and running with as few changes as possible. They did the install in the 
middle of my work day, so I had to just plugin and go. As is things work for 
the most part, but for IPV6 tunneling and I can live without this for a while. 
In fact I can live with how things are now, but would like to at least explore 
longterm solutions. This is the first I have encountered this type of situation 
and of course I would prefer not to give up the mac address filtering. I can do 
this on the cable modem, but it does not provide the kind of control I want 
that is provided by the AirPort.
In any case this will be a lesson in networking for sure. :)

tnx,

On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Not sure if you're using wireless, but my suggestion is, use the routing 
> features of the com cast modem itself. This would mean you would need to give 
> up the mac address control but if you turn off the ss id broadcast and have a 
> good password for your wifi network, you should be fine. No sense making 
> things more complicated than they need to be.
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I was 
>> provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a switch 
>> consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router plugged into 
>> the SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is configured to 
>> handout DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its address, but I also 
>> am handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices on my private network. I 
>> actually am using DHCP reservations and for a specific reason.
>> I have setup mac address filtering to control certain machines on the 
>> network. Unfortunately the SMC lacks some of the features for controlling 
>> machines that are found in the Apple router. However, this double nat 
>> situation can and has created some issues for me. I could of course just 
>> bridge the AirPort and give up the whole deal on controlling machines on the 
>> network. That may very well end up being necessary in the end; however, 
>> before I do so, I wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts. I did a little 
>> searching around on Google, but unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what to 
>> look for either. I don't think Google would take my message as a search term 
>> either. :)
>> Although I do not have any plans to do this, the advantage of double nat in 
>> this case is I could strap three more routers onto the gateway (SMC) and 
>> have some fun. Now maybe there is a way around all of this, but seems the 
>> current issue is IP6 tunneling, but I am more concerned if this could pose 
>> problems with other services. So, thoughts welcome and I'll keep poking 
>> around and see what I can learn. The good thing is that all seems to be 
>> working for the most part, so this is not a critical need situation. Just 
>> need to make sure I can vpn into the network at the office. :)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Scott Howell]

Ben and all,

Thanks for the feedback, but as I stated in my previous message, I neglected to 
mention I cannot put the SMC cable modem in bridge mode. THat would have been 
my preferred method for sure. You got the idea though, but seems that what I 
want to do would cost me more money. :) One thing is for sure, I either find a 
solution, change everything around, or live with it. :)
THanks for the info, that helped me confirm I at least explained it correctly.

On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> If I've understood you correctly, the comcast device is doing dhcp for
> all of the computers on the network, but the computers are actually
> connecting through the airport; you're wanting to make the comcast box
> act just as a modem and nothing else because of the airports ip
> reservation features? You're also having problems with the 2 nats and
> setting up vpn?
> I *think* the first problem would be quite easy to sort out. I'd start
> by turning dhcp off on the comcast box and just make the airport do it
> for the comcast box and all the other devices on the network; this
> should give you back the control that you don't have on the comcast
> box.
> As far as port forwarding through 2 nats, can both the comcast and
> airport do port forwarding? If so, assuming that every ip is static,
> have you tried forwarding the ports on the airport and then forwarding
> the ports on the comcast box so that when someone connects from the
> outside on the desired port, the chain would look like:
> some outside computer > the internet > your isp > comcast set to port
> forward to the airport > airport set to port forward to the machine?
> 
> Probably completely miss understood you, but hth.
> 
> On 10/07/2011, Geoff Shang  wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I
>>> was provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a
>>> switch consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router
>>> plugged into the SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is
>>> configured to handout DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its
>>> address, but I also am handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices
>>> on my private network. I actually am using DHCP reservations and for a
>>> specific reason.
>> 
>> The best thing to do if you can is bridge the SMC and let the airport deal
>> with everything.  Now, I don't know anything about airport routers, so I
>> don't know if they know anything about PPPoE/PPPoA, etc.  So I don't know
>> if this would work.  But it's the optimal solution for this situation.
>> 
>> Usually, the best way to connect two routers together is to use LAN ports
>> on both of them.  But this works better when it's the one which talks to
>> the world which should control everything.  I recently set this up - I
>> connected two 4-port routers together which got me two more ports.
>> 
>> Geoff.
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Re: ipad2 or mbpro with lion

[James Malone]

Well, you should be able to upgrade to Lion on your existing MBP,
maybe? I haven't bothered to check about the 09 ones, seeing as mine
was from last year and will work fine. Maybe just check the
requirements?

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> have a question guys  thinking about getting ipad2 vs. mbpro with
> lion  i already have a  mid 09 mbpro with sl got it in september of
> 09  do you think ios 5  will have more  accessability features then
> lion  that will be cool  cant make up my mind  please help
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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Scott Howell]

Matt,

I neglected to mention that the only way to put the damned SMC cable modem into 
(effectively) bridge mode is to pay an extra $15 a month for a single static 
IP. I ain't gonna do that. I can't switch out the modem either on this type of 
account and would not make sense to do so since as a business-class customer I 
benefit from having such a device in a few ways. Needless to say if I can't 
find a solution, I may have to bite the bullet and change everything, but I'll 
hold out for a while yet.

Thanks,

Scott

On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hello Scott.
> I've recently had issues of a similar nature. What I would like to do with my 
> network is to have the ISP box do what it was payed for to do and that is to 
> provide me with an internet connection and have the airport handle everything 
> else. I'm not a huge fan of devices with extra and sometimes unwanted and or 
> un-needed features sold to customers by ISP's. They rarely seem to work as 
> expected and cause more trouble than they're worth, especially, when you try 
> to integrate them in to an already existing network that is working fine as 
> is.
> If you can, I'd recommend disabling what features you can on the ISP box and 
> have the airport do what you've already configured it to do. This, from what 
> I'm getting from you're post, was already in place so I'd do what I could to 
> keep it that way if I were you.
> One thing that I've told numerous people is: "Don't fix what aint broken."
> Just some thoughts from a computer networking technician in training.
> Hope it helps.
> 
> On 2011-07-10, at 6:06 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I was 
>> provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a switch 
>> consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router plugged into 
>> the SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is configured to 
>> handout DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its address, but I also 
>> am handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices on my private network. I 
>> actually am using DHCP reservations and for a specific reason.
>> I have setup mac address filtering to control certain machines on the 
>> network. Unfortunately the SMC lacks some of the features for controlling 
>> machines that are found in the Apple router. However, this double nat 
>> situation can and has created some issues for me. I could of course just 
>> bridge the AirPort and give up the whole deal on controlling machines on the 
>> network. That may very well end up being necessary in the end; however, 
>> before I do so, I wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts. I did a little 
>> searching around on Google, but unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what to 
>> look for either. I don't think Google would take my message as a search term 
>> either. :)
>> Although I do not have any plans to do this, the advantage of double nat in 
>> this case is I could strap three more routers onto the gateway (SMC) and 
>> have some fun. Now maybe there is a way around all of this, but seems the 
>> current issue is IP6 tunneling, but I am more concerned if this could pose 
>> problems with other services. So, thoughts welcome and I'll keep poking 
>> around and see what I can learn. The good thing is that all seems to be 
>> working for the most part, so this is not a critical need situation. Just 
>> need to make sure I can vpn into the network at the office. :)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[James Malone]

While I appreciate the work you are doing there Jonothan, I still
don't completely see the need for something that doesn't display
tweets as you read them, and focus on the blind comunity. I for one
refuse to use blindness apps for the most part, because it sort of
makes us look stupid. Its almost like saying,
"Hey, apparently blind people can't use my twitter app, because there
is one little checkbox that isn't where it should be and its not
described enough, therefore I need to waste pointless time looking
then changing it, just so there can be that perfect kept in a shell
zone once more."
and I mean really, does anyone really care these days if your tweeting
at work? Hey, I know heaps of people that do this, and most people
aren't stupid. As long as you get your work done and can have a good
tweet, then why not. Hell, apple will probably end up integrating a
Twitter client into Mac OS at some stage. Anyway, rant over.

On 7/11/11, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere.  All
> you need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar
> app.
>
> Ricardo Walker
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>
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote:
>
>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I
>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke
>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you
>> could compose a tweet.
>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is,
>> while great, distracting
>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the
>> timeline
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like
>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to
>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets
>>> without losing your place in whatever program you were in.
>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet
>>> my needs quite adequately.
>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were
>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the
>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>>> Missy
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>>
>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>>>
>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>>>
>>>
>>>   That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the
 list this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
>>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from
>>> blind specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms?
>>> I can understand the need for one or more blind
>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living
>>> on another planet?
 /Krister

 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:

> Hello,
>
> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>
> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have
> to rewrite all modules about keyboard
> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX

Re: errasing history items in the new Skype

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

My Skype five point latest doesn't have an actions menu. How odd.


 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
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ipad2 or mbpro with lion

[David Geiger]

have a question guys  thinking about getting ipad2 vs. mbpro with
lion  i already have a  mid 09 mbpro with sl got it in september of
09  do you think ios 5  will have more  accessability features then
lion  that will be cool  cant make up my mind  please help

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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Mike Arrigo]

Not sure if you're using wireless, but my suggestion is, use the routing 
features of the com cast modem itself. This would mean you would need to give 
up the mac address control but if you turn off the ss id broadcast and have a 
good password for your wifi network, you should be fine. No sense making things 
more complicated than they need to be.
On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> All,
> 
> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I was 
> provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a switch 
> consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router plugged into the 
> SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is configured to handout 
> DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its address, but I also am 
> handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices on my private network. I 
> actually am using DHCP reservations and for a specific reason.
> I have setup mac address filtering to control certain machines on the 
> network. Unfortunately the SMC lacks some of the features for controlling 
> machines that are found in the Apple router. However, this double nat 
> situation can and has created some issues for me. I could of course just 
> bridge the AirPort and give up the whole deal on controlling machines on the 
> network. That may very well end up being necessary in the end; however, 
> before I do so, I wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts. I did a little 
> searching around on Google, but unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what to 
> look for either. I don't think Google would take my message as a search term 
> either. :)
> Although I do not have any plans to do this, the advantage of double nat in 
> this case is I could strap three more routers onto the gateway (SMC) and have 
> some fun. Now maybe there is a way around all of this, but seems the current 
> issue is IP6 tunneling, but I am more concerned if this could pose problems 
> with other services. So, thoughts welcome and I'll keep poking around and see 
> what I can learn. The good thing is that all seems to be working for the most 
> part, so this is not a critical need situation. Just need to make sure I can 
> vpn into the network at the office. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
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Re: lion

[Esther]

Hi Ray and Others,

As a follow-up to Scott's comments about using asr in Terminal, there's a nice 
article on the mac-access web site that discusses SuperDuper!, Carbon Copy 
Cloner, and also gives instructions on how to use asr in Terminal to backup via 
bootable clone:
• How to copy (Backup), (Clone) Your System Start Volume
http://www.mac-access.net/Extras/System_Backup.html

Incidentally, in response to Mark Taylor's question about using CCC, I find 
that I can do a straight clone in about 15 per cent shorter time with CCC under 
Snow Leopard, although I haven't tried to run comparisons recently.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 10, 2011, at 06:21, David McLean wrote:

> They both are actually.
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> I reckon, then, that it comes down to which is more accessible; Super Dupre 
>> or else CCC.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Ray I'm not sure if you are referring to specific utilities or what.
>>> However, you can clone your drive using something like CCC or Superduper. 
>>> There is another option called asr, which is a program you would have to 
>>> run from within Terminal. I will leave asr to you for research. This is a 
>>> utility that requires you to boot off the SL DVD as it does a block copy. 
>>> This utility requires understanding, so this is why I won't go into the 
>>> how, but instead let those interested do some reading.
>>> Although most folks will find CCC or Superduper more than adequate for the 
>>> task.
>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 Am I mistaken or can one clone a drive via utilities?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Jul 10, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
> Your TIme Machine drive will backup any new content, which includes the 
> new Lion install. However, if you want to do things right and you have 
> the space available; I suggest you partition the drive and clone the 
> internal drive. You may then have to start over as far as backing up 
> stuff via TIme Machine, but since the drive will have ben cloned, it 
> would not be a problem. It is always a good idea to clone your existing 
> drive before upgrades etc. just in the event something goes wrong.
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
>> time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
>> might need to be reinstalled post lion?
>> 

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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Geoff,

I'd be interested in knowing why you connected an extra router to your
router as opposed to a switch? It seems overly complicated
considdering that a cheap unmanaged switch would have done the same
thing and probably would have given you gigabit.

On 11/07/2011, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> Scott,
>
> If I've understood you correctly, the comcast device is doing dhcp for
> all of the computers on the network, but the computers are actually
> connecting through the airport; you're wanting to make the comcast box
> act just as a modem and nothing else because of the airports ip
> reservation features? You're also having problems with the 2 nats and
> setting up vpn?
> I *think* the first problem would be quite easy to sort out. I'd start
> by turning dhcp off on the comcast box and just make the airport do it
> for the comcast box and all the other devices on the network; this
> should give you back the control that you don't have on the comcast
> box.
> As far as port forwarding through 2 nats, can both the comcast and
> airport do port forwarding? If so, assuming that every ip is static,
> have you tried forwarding the ports on the airport and then forwarding
> the ports on the comcast box so that when someone connects from the
> outside on the desired port, the chain would look like:
> some outside computer > the internet > your isp > comcast set to port
> forward to the airport > airport set to port forward to the machine?
>
> Probably completely miss understood you, but hth.
>
> On 10/07/2011, Geoff Shang  wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I
>>> was provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a
>>> switch consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router
>>> plugged into the SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is
>>> configured to handout DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its
>>> address, but I also am handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices
>>> on my private network. I actually am using DHCP reservations and for a
>>> specific reason.
>>
>> The best thing to do if you can is bridge the SMC and let the airport
>> deal
>> with everything.  Now, I don't know anything about airport routers, so I
>> don't know if they know anything about PPPoE/PPPoA, etc.  So I don't know
>> if this would work.  But it's the optimal solution for this situation.
>>
>> Usually, the best way to connect two routers together is to use LAN ports
>> on both of them.  But this works better when it's the one which talks to
>> the world which should control everything.  I recently set this up - I
>> connected two 4-port routers together which got me two more ports.
>>
>> Geoff.
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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Scott,

If I've understood you correctly, the comcast device is doing dhcp for
all of the computers on the network, but the computers are actually
connecting through the airport; you're wanting to make the comcast box
act just as a modem and nothing else because of the airports ip
reservation features? You're also having problems with the 2 nats and
setting up vpn?
I *think* the first problem would be quite easy to sort out. I'd start
by turning dhcp off on the comcast box and just make the airport do it
for the comcast box and all the other devices on the network; this
should give you back the control that you don't have on the comcast
box.
As far as port forwarding through 2 nats, can both the comcast and
airport do port forwarding? If so, assuming that every ip is static,
have you tried forwarding the ports on the airport and then forwarding
the ports on the comcast box so that when someone connects from the
outside on the desired port, the chain would look like:
some outside computer > the internet > your isp > comcast set to port
forward to the airport > airport set to port forward to the machine?

Probably completely miss understood you, but hth.

On 10/07/2011, Geoff Shang  wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I
>> was provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a
>> switch consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router
>> plugged into the SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is
>> configured to handout DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its
>> address, but I also am handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices
>> on my private network. I actually am using DHCP reservations and for a
>> specific reason.
>
> The best thing to do if you can is bridge the SMC and let the airport deal
> with everything.  Now, I don't know anything about airport routers, so I
> don't know if they know anything about PPPoE/PPPoA, etc.  So I don't know
> if this would work.  But it's the optimal solution for this situation.
>
> Usually, the best way to connect two routers together is to use LAN ports
> on both of them.  But this works better when it's the one which talks to
> the world which should control everything.  I recently set this up - I
> connected two 4-port routers together which got me two more ports.
>
> Geoff.
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Re: BBC Iplayer and Voiceover

[Scota Bess]

Hi

I don't get radio through the Iplayer bit of the site, I go through
the individual radio station sites.

The radio player site didn't seem to be accessible when I tried it a
month or so ago, but they say they are aware of the problems.

Cheers

A

On Jul 10, 8:12 pm, David Eagle  wrote:
> I can't see how anyone can access the Iplayer since it relies on Flash
> which seems to be undetectable by Voice-Over. I always use my windows
> computer for the IPlayer. I contacted the bBC about this and their
> email didn't suggest that they would be moving from Flash any time
> soon although there are experiments taking place with HTML5 which
> works fine with VO.
>
> How on earth do you access the iplayer for radio? That's Flash too and
> works exactly the same way as the TV IPlayer, unless there's another
> IPlayer link that I'm missing from the usual bbc.co.uk/iplayer
>
> On 09/07/2011, Scota Bess  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all
>
> > I have never been able to work the TV Iplayer, radio no problem. I
> > know there's a great big button in the middle of the screen you are
> > supposed to click on, but I can't see it and I can't see how I can get
> > Voiceover to find it.
>
> > I searched this site and found a reference to someone with a similar
> > problem some time ago, but couldn't seem to see if there had been any
> > resolution to this. Most replies said they had no problem with it.
>
> > Best
>
> > Adrienne
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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Geoff Shang]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Scott Howell wrote:

Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I 
was provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a 
switch consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router 
plugged into the SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is 
configured to handout DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its 
address, but I also am handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices 
on my private network. I actually am using DHCP reservations and for a 
specific reason.


The best thing to do if you can is bridge the SMC and let the airport deal 
with everything.  Now, I don't know anything about airport routers, so I 
don't know if they know anything about PPPoE/PPPoA, etc.  So I don't know 
if this would work.  But it's the optimal solution for this situation.


Usually, the best way to connect two routers together is to use LAN ports 
on both of them.  But this works better when it's the one which talks to 
the world which should control everything.  I recently set this up - I 
connected two 4-port routers together which got me two more ports.


Geoff.

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Re: complex networking question (double nating)

[Matthew Campbell]

Hello Scott.
I've recently had issues of a similar nature. What I would like to do with my 
network is to have the ISP box do what it was payed for to do and that is to 
provide me with an internet connection and have the airport handle everything 
else. I'm not a huge fan of devices with extra and sometimes unwanted and or 
un-needed features sold to customers by ISP's. They rarely seem to work as 
expected and cause more trouble than they're worth, especially, when you try to 
integrate them in to an already existing network that is working fine as is.
If you can, I'd recommend disabling what features you can on the ISP box and 
have the airport do what you've already configured it to do. This, from what 
I'm getting from you're post, was already in place so I'd do what I could to 
keep it that way if I were you.
One thing that I've told numerous people is: "Don't fix what aint broken."
Just some thoughts from a computer networking technician in training.
Hope it helps.

On 2011-07-10, at 6:06 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> All,
> 
> Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I was 
> provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a switch 
> consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router plugged into the 
> SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is configured to handout 
> DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its address, but I also am 
> handing out addresses using DHCP to the devices on my private network. I 
> actually am using DHCP reservations and for a specific reason.
> I have setup mac address filtering to control certain machines on the 
> network. Unfortunately the SMC lacks some of the features for controlling 
> machines that are found in the Apple router. However, this double nat 
> situation can and has created some issues for me. I could of course just 
> bridge the AirPort and give up the whole deal on controlling machines on the 
> network. That may very well end up being necessary in the end; however, 
> before I do so, I wanted to ask if anyone had any thoughts. I did a little 
> searching around on Google, but unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what to 
> look for either. I don't think Google would take my message as a search term 
> either. :)
> Although I do not have any plans to do this, the advantage of double nat in 
> this case is I could strap three more routers onto the gateway (SMC) and have 
> some fun. Now maybe there is a way around all of this, but seems the current 
> issue is IP6 tunneling, but I am more concerned if this could pose problems 
> with other services. So, thoughts welcome and I'll keep poking around and see 
> what I can learn. The good thing is that all seems to be working for the most 
> part, so this is not a critical need situation. Just need to make sure I can 
> vpn into the network at the office. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
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Re: restoring your mac to an earlier date?

[Scott Howell]

The only way to accomplish this. Keep in mind that although windows has this 
feature, it uses space on the same drive windows is installed. So, if something 
were to fail on the drive, you'd likely be up the crick without a paddle.
Time Machine is your friend and so are external drives.

On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:

> So is there a way to restore your mac to a earlier date without using time 
> machine or any other back up soft ware?  Or is this the only way one can 
> accomplish this.
> Kliphton SR
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> Sent from my IMac
> 
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complex networking question (double nating)

[Scott Howell]

All,

Here is the situation. I recently switched to Comcast business class. I was 
provided with a SMC Network cable modem. THis box is actually a switch 
consisting of four ports. Currently I have my AirPort router plugged into the 
SMC and thus I have a double nat situation. THe SMC is configured to handout 
DHCP addresses, which is how my AirPort gets its address, but I also am handing 
out addresses using DHCP to the devices on my private network. I actually am 
using DHCP reservations and for a specific reason.
I have setup mac address filtering to control certain machines on the network. 
Unfortunately the SMC lacks some of the features for controlling machines that 
are found in the Apple router. However, this double nat situation can and has 
created some issues for me. I could of course just bridge the AirPort and give 
up the whole deal on controlling machines on the network. That may very well 
end up being necessary in the end; however, before I do so, I wanted to ask if 
anyone had any thoughts. I did a little searching around on Google, but 
unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what to look for either. I don't think 
Google would take my message as a search term either. :)
Although I do not have any plans to do this, the advantage of double nat in 
this case is I could strap three more routers onto the gateway (SMC) and have 
some fun. Now maybe there is a way around all of this, but seems the current 
issue is IP6 tunneling, but I am more concerned if this could pose problems 
with other services. So, thoughts welcome and I'll keep poking around and see 
what I can learn. The good thing is that all seems to be working for the most 
part, so this is not a critical need situation. Just need to make sure I can 
vpn into the network at the office. :)

Thanks,
Scott

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Re: Scrolling a PM40 display

[Geoff Shang]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Anne Robertson wrote:

If the PM 40 works like the PM 20, you use one of the whiz wheels, the 
right-hand one I think, to pan right or left.


Thanks to you cluing us in about being able to assign Braille display 
commands, we went to check them out.


First, it seems that right-up was pan right and right-down was pan left, 
which is rather counter-intuitive.  Moreover, it wasn't actually working 
properly even so, which we don't really understand.


I hate this arrangement, 
so I've changed the panning commands to be a press on the right whiz 
wheel to go right, and on the left one to go left. You do this in 
VoiceOver Utility, under Braille.


We took your advice and made this change, once we figured out how the 
Braille commands table actually worked.  It now works just fine.


Making both left and right wheels go up and down was a bit more fun but we 
also got there in the end.


Thanks again,
Geoff.

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Re: restoring your mac to an earlier date?

[Ricardo Walker]

Nope.

This is pretty much what time machine was created for.

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On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:

> So is there a way to restore your mac to a earlier date without using time 
> machine or any other back up soft ware?  Or is this the only way one can 
> accomplish this.
> Kliphton SR
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restoring your mac to an earlier date?

So is there a way to restore your mac to a earlier date without using time 
machine or any other back up soft ware?  Or is this the only way one can 
accomplish this.
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Re: Scrolling a PM40 display

[Geoff Shang]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Anne Robertson wrote:

If the PM 40 works like the PM 20, you use one of the whiz wheels, the 
right-hand one I think, to pan right or left.


hmm.  The right one does something odd, can't work out exactly what, but 
keyboard help doesn't say what it is.


I hate this arrangement, 
so I've changed the panning commands to be a press on the right whiz 
wheel to go right, and on the left one to go left. You do this in 
VoiceOver Utility, under Braille.


ah.  We shall have to look at this.

Thanks,
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Re: Scrolling a PM40 display

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Geoff,

If the PM 40 works like the PM 20, you use one of the whiz wheels, the 
right-hand one I think, to pan right or left. I hate this arrangement, so I've 
changed the panning commands to be a press on the right whiz wheel to go right, 
and on the left one to go left. You do this in VoiceOver Utility, under Braille.

Cheers,

Anne


On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We've hit a little problem and figure someone here will know.
> 
> Naama is using her PACMate 40 display with VoiceOver and wants to scroll the 
> display so that she can see the righthand part of the line.  But we can't 
> find a keystroke that will do this.
> 
> Does anyone know how this is done?  It must surely be possible.
> 
> Geoff.
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Re: BBC Iplayer and Voiceover

[David Eagle]

I can't see how anyone can access the Iplayer since it relies on Flash
which seems to be undetectable by Voice-Over. I always use my windows
computer for the IPlayer. I contacted the bBC about this and their
email didn't suggest that they would be moving from Flash any time
soon although there are experiments taking place with HTML5 which
works fine with VO.

How on earth do you access the iplayer for radio? That's Flash too and
works exactly the same way as the TV IPlayer, unless there's another
IPlayer link that I'm missing from the usual bbc.co.uk/iplayer


On 09/07/2011, Scota Bess  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have never been able to work the TV Iplayer, radio no problem. I
> know there's a great big button in the middle of the screen you are
> supposed to click on, but I can't see it and I can't see how I can get
> Voiceover to find it.
>
> I searched this site and found a reference to someone with a similar
> problem some time ago, but couldn't seem to see if there had been any
> resolution to this. Most replies said they had no problem with it.
>
> Best
>
> Adrienne
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Scrolling a PM40 display

[Geoff Shang]

Hi,

We've hit a little problem and figure someone here will know.

Naama is using her PACMate 40 display with VoiceOver and wants to scroll 
the display so that she can see the righthand part of the line.  But we 
can't find a keystroke that will do this.


Does anyone know how this is done?  It must surely be possible.

Geoff.

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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

with boxcar for Mac, you can reply to mentions and DMs from anywhere.  All you 
need to do is assign a keyboard shortcut to bring it up in the boxcar app.

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On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ashley Cox wrote:

> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke 
> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could 
> compose a tweet.
> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
> great, distracting
> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
> timeline
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best 
>> about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>> losing your place in whatever program you were in.
>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>> needs quite adequately.
>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to 
>> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>> 
>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>> 
>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>> 
>> 
>>   That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>> 
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>> another planet?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
 
 * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
 rewrite all modules about keyboard
 * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
 * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
 
 
 well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
 twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
>> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
 I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
 
 
 
 
 Regards
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Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
 
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Ricardo Walker]

yup,

The time stamp being hidden away in the drawer is my only major complaint about 
Yorufukurou

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On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand.
> The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets 
> without having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and 
> Yorufukuru apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know 
> how that works. The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp 
> in readable text beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the 
> time a tweet was posted, i'm too lazy for that.
> /Krister
> 
> 10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox:
> 
>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter 
>> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter 
>> clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more 
>> hidden away or in the wrong place.
>> 
>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns 
>> lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add 
>> more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there 
>> tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, 
>> unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could 
>> customise the time before new tweets are received.
>> 
>> 
>> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many 
>> of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary 
>> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a 
>> bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one 
>> of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't 
>> need a stopwatch build in.
>> 
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that 
>>> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be 
>>> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted 
>>> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind 
>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>>> another planet?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
 
 * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
 rewrite all modules about keyboard
 * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
 * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
 
 
 well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
 twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech 
 capabilityes to show the twiter information.
 I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
 
 
 
 
 Regards
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  Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
 
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Re: the new Skype and the hhistory items table

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Ray!
So to get rid of all your history [forever and completely]
When in Skype open command+comma and go to the tool bar and interact!
Select the privacy button and in it's settings are how long to keep history 
[and the one you want] delete history!
Skype help said it could take a little time to clear!
But when its done no more history!
hth
[ Not running barefoot here]
Colin hahahaha

On 10 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay.  To Mike.  The history table, when it is interacted with, only shows 
> three unlabelled items, none of which can be pressed.  Also, there appears to 
> be no action menu at all.  Now, when you interact with what used to be the 
> source list, you have only two tables.  One is contacts, and the other is 
> history.  Removing history does not have any effect on the items in this 
> history table.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Missy Hoppe]

Sounds logical to me, and your program would be unique for mac users, that's 
for sure!


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Chacón Barbero
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:06 PM
To: Krister Ekstrom
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

Hello,

there's a problem to change the name... Twitter doesn't allow new twitter 
clients because they think there are too many
twitter clients now. Well, I needed and argument to get the twitter 
authorization. I argued there was no twitter client for
blind users like qwitter in OSX... Well, Twitter gave me the authorization with 
Blindtweet identifier

Regards
Jonathan Chacón

El 10/07/2011, a las 19:57, Krister Ekstrom escribió:

> One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your 
> product used by blind and sighted alike, the
name "blind tweet" maybe isn't the best name in history. Everyone will assume 
that it's a client for blind people only and we
will have yet another reinvention of the wheel.
> /Krister
>
> 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope 
>> to finish the first release version by the
end of the summer
>>
>> Regards
>>  Jonathan Chacón
>>
>> El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió:
>>
>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?),
there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a 
dialog in which you could compose a tweet.
>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
>>> great, distracting
>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
>>> timeline
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
 Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like 
 best about qwitter is that it runs in the
background;
 you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
 alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
 document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
 losing your place in whatever program you
were in.
 Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
 needs quite adequately.
 Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were 
 to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use
it
 over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
 background. I hope that makes some kind of
sense.
 Missy


 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

 I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
 qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
 twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
 either more hidden away or in the wrong place.

 It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
 you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
 in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
 to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
 profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.


 That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
 Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
 unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
 who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
 tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
 twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.


 Just my thoughts.
 On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
> this: Do we really need a blind specific
Twitter
 client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
 specific solutions and be more standard, thus
 being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? 
 I can understand the need for one or more
blind
 specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living 
 on another planet?
> /Krister
>
> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>>
>> * keystroke mana

Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Jonathan Chacón Barbero]

Hello,

there's a problem to change the name... Twitter doesn't allow new twitter 
clients because they think there are too many twitter clients now. Well, I 
needed and argument to get the twitter authorization. I argued there was no 
twitter client for blind users like qwitter in OSX... Well, Twitter gave me the 
authorization with Blindtweet identifier 

Regards
Jonathan Chacón

El 10/07/2011, a las 19:57, Krister Ekstrom escribió:

> One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your 
> product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't 
> the best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind 
> people only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel.
> /Krister
> 
> 10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope 
>> to finish the first release version by the end of the summer
>> 
>> Regards
>>  Jonathan Chacón
>> 
>> El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió:
>> 
>>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
>>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke 
>>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could 
>>> compose a tweet.
>>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
>>> great, distracting
>>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
>>> timeline
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
 Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like 
 best about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
 you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
 alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
 document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
 losing your place in whatever program you were in.
 Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
 needs quite adequately.
 Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were 
 to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
 over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
 background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
 Missy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
 
 I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
 qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
 twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
 either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
 
 It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
 columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
 you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
 in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
 to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
 profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
 
 
 That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
 Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
 unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
 who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
 tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
 twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
 
 
 Just my thoughts.
 On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
 client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
 specific solutions and be more standard, thus
 being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? 
 I can understand the need for one or more blind
 specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living 
 on another planet?
> /Krister
> 
> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>> 
>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have 
>> to rewrite all modules about keyboard
>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
>> 
>> 
>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is 

RE: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Missy Hoppe]

Not necessarily. It might be a clever name if the application has no visual 
component, for like what the developer said: if
you're tweeting at work and don't want anyone to see or something like that. To 
me, it doesn't matter what it's called. If it
works, I'll try it. If I don't like it, I can always go back to Yorufukuru.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your 
product used by blind and sighted alike, the name
"blind tweet" maybe isn't the best name in history. Everyone will assume that 
it's a client for blind people only and we will
have yet another reinvention of the wheel.
/Krister

10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:

> Hello
>
> Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope 
> to finish the first release version by the end
of the summer
>
> Regards
>   Jonathan Chacón
>
> El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió:
>
>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?),
there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a 
dialog in which you could compose a tweet.
>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
>> great, distracting
>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
>> timeline
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like 
>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the
background;
>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>>> losing your place in whatever program you were
in.
>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>>> needs quite adequately.
>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were 
>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use
it
>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of
sense.
>>> Missy
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>>
>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>>>
>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>>>
>>>
>>>  That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
 this: Do we really need a blind specific
Twitter
>>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>>> another planet?
 /Krister

 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:

> Hello,
>
> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>
> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have 
> to rewrite all modules about keyboard
> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
>
>
> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
>

Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Krister Ekstrom]

One little piece of advise though. If you really, really want to have your 
product used by blind and sighted alike, the name "blind tweet" maybe isn't the 
best name in history. Everyone will assume that it's a client for blind people 
only and we will have yet another reinvention of the wheel.
/Krister

10 jul 2011 kl. 19.26 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:

> Hello
> 
> Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope 
> to finish the first release version by the end of the summer
> 
> Regards
>   Jonathan Chacón
> 
> El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió:
> 
>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke 
>> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could 
>> compose a tweet.
>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
>> great, distracting
>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
>> timeline
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like 
>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>>> losing your place in whatever program you were in.
>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>>> needs quite adequately.
>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were 
>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>> 
>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>>> 
>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
 this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
>>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>>> another planet?
 /Krister
 
 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
 
> Hello,
> 
> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
> 
> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have 
> to rewrite all modules about keyboard
> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
> 
> 
> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
>>> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
>   Jonathan Chacón Barbero
>   Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
> 
> Phone: +34 679953948
> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/

Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Ah, that would explain why i got an error when trying to check for updates. 
Well, if so, Nambu's out of the question.
/Krister

10 jul 2011 kl. 16.19 skrev Missy Hoppe:

> Hi! I thought Nambu was no longer being developed. That's one of the main 
> reasons I didn't try using it; I simply assumed it
> wouldn't be coded to handle Twitter's new authorization scheme. It sure 
> sounds like it was neat, though.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:13 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
> 
> Hi,
> Both Nambu and Yurofukuru, (how the heck do they spell that name?) provides 
> those features already. Nambu, in my oppinion has
> the best implementation of the "write tweets from anywhere" type of feature, 
> although it lacks other features i want to see.
> Both apps have shortcuts for bringing up a new tweet dialog and to focus on 
> the timeline.
> Don't remember now why i chose Yurofukuru over Nambu though. The cool thing 
> with nambu is that you actually can tweet even if
> the app itself isn't running.
> /Krister
> 
> 10 jul 2011 kl. 14.38 skrev Ashley Cox:
> 
>> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
>> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?),
> there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a 
> dialog in which you could compose a tweet.
>> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
>> great, distracting
>> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
>> timeline
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like 
>>> best about qwitter is that it runs in the
> background;
>>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>>> losing your place in whatever program you were
> in.
>>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>>> needs quite adequately.
>>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were 
>>> to be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>> 
>>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>>> 
>>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
 this: Do we really need a blind specific
> Twitter
>>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>>> another planet?
 /Krister
 
 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
 
> Hello,
> 
> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
> 
> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have 
> to rewrite all modules about keyboard
> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX

Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Jonathan Chacón Barbero]

Hello

Blindtweet will have global keystrokes and it will run in background. I hope to 
finish the first release version by the end of the summer

Regards
Jonathan Chacón

El 10/07/2011, a las 14:38, Ashley Cox escribió:

> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke 
> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could 
> compose a tweet.
> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
> great, distracting
> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
> timeline
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best 
>> about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>> losing your place in whatever program you were in.
>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>> needs quite adequately.
>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to 
>> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>> 
>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>> 
>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>> 
>> 
>>   That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>> 
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>> another planet?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
 
 * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
 rewrite all modules about keyboard
 * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
 * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
 
 
 well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
 twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
>> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
 I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
 
 
 
 
 Regards
Jonathan Chacón Barbero
Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
 
 Phone: +34 679953948
 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Jonathan Chacón Barbero]

Hello Krister and every body,

I think the same of you but some friends of mine prefer a Twitter client in 
background managed by keystrokes. This method of management is very easy for 
many users and I think if I can develop it for my friends, why not to do it?

I think Blindtweet will be used by not blind people. Imagine people who can't 
use twitter in their work... they will use Twitter without been caught at work 
because there will be nothing on the screen


I think that any user should be free to use the best application for his needs






Regards
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Re: lion

[David McLean]

They both are actually.
On Jul 10, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> I reckon, then, that it comes down to which is more accessible; Super Dupre 
> or else CCC.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Ray I'm not sure if you are referring to specific utilities or what.
>> However, you can clone your drive using something like CCC or Superduper. 
>> There is another option called asr, which is a program you would have to run 
>> from within Terminal. I will leave asr to you for research. This is a 
>> utility that requires you to boot off the SL DVD as it does a block copy. 
>> This utility requires understanding, so this is why I won't go into the how, 
>> but instead let those interested do some reading.
>> Although most folks will find CCC or Superduper more than adequate for the 
>> task.
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Am I mistaken or can one clone a drive via utilities?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 Your TIme Machine drive will backup any new content, which includes the 
 new Lion install. However, if you want to do things right and you have the 
 space available; I suggest you partition the drive and clone the internal 
 drive. You may then have to start over as far as backing up stuff via TIme 
 Machine, but since the drive will have ben cloned, it would not be a 
 problem. It is always a good idea to clone your existing drive before 
 upgrades etc. just in the event something goes wrong.
 
 On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
 
> The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
> time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
> might need to be reinstalled post lion?
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Re: Voice over hot spots

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Matthew!
Well I had the same problem!
However I noticed that if you set up the hotspot within the message field of 
the mailbox in question you get that problem!
But if you set up in the mailbox list EG. inbox, Drafts, sent and so on!
They do work and then you'll have to go to message field from there!
But watch out [as I found out] the hotspot puts you in edit mode and I deleted 
my personal mailbox name! [undo command came in useful]
Also I think it is just as fast whilst in the mailbox table to just type the 
first or first few letters of the mailbox and that gets there quite quick!
So I've stopped using the hotspots!
hth Colin

On 10 Jul 2011, at 14:41, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Ok well it is not working.  Did I do something wrong?  If I  press vo 1 for 
> example, I am still in my gmail mail box or what ever mail box I was left in 
> before pressing the command.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it should be as you say.
>> On 8 Jul 2011, at 15:41, matthew Dyer wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have set up hot spots for my mail programs to jump between the different 
>>> mail boxes.  How ever, in testing them, It only takes me to my gmail and I 
>>> have 4  accounts which I have hot spots setup for.  Correct me if I am 
>>> wrong, but is it not vo and the number of the hot spot the way to jump 
>>> between them?  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
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Re: lion

[Ray Foret Jr]

I reckon, then, that it comes down to which is more accessible; Super Dupre or 
else CCC.


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On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Ray I'm not sure if you are referring to specific utilities or what.
> However, you can clone your drive using something like CCC or Superduper. 
> There is another option called asr, which is a program you would have to run 
> from within Terminal. I will leave asr to you for research. This is a utility 
> that requires you to boot off the SL DVD as it does a block copy. This 
> utility requires understanding, so this is why I won't go into the how, but 
> instead let those interested do some reading.
> Although most folks will find CCC or Superduper more than adequate for the 
> task.
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Am I mistaken or can one clone a drive via utilities?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Your TIme Machine drive will backup any new content, which includes the new 
>>> Lion install. However, if you want to do things right and you have the 
>>> space available; I suggest you partition the drive and clone the internal 
>>> drive. You may then have to start over as far as backing up stuff via TIme 
>>> Machine, but since the drive will have ben cloned, it would not be a 
>>> problem. It is always a good idea to clone your existing drive before 
>>> upgrades etc. just in the event something goes wrong.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>>> 
 The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
 time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
 might need to be reinstalled post lion?
 
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the new Skype and the hhistory items table

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.  To Mike.  The history table, when it is interacted with, only shows 
three unlabled items, none of which can be pressed.  Also, there appears to be 
no action menu at all.  Now, when you interact with what used to be the source 
list, you have only two tables.  One is contacts, and the other is history.  
Removing history does not have any effect on the items in this history table.

Any other ideas?


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Re: lion

[Scott Howell]

Ray I'm not sure if you are referring to specific utilities or what.
However, you can clone your drive using something like CCC or Superduper. There 
is another option called asr, which is a program you would have to run from 
within Terminal. I will leave asr to you for research. This is a utility that 
requires you to boot off the SL DVD as it does a block copy. This utility 
requires understanding, so this is why I won't go into the how, but instead let 
those interested do some reading.
Although most folks will find CCC or Superduper more than adequate for the task.
On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Am I mistaken or can one clone a drive via utilities?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Your TIme Machine drive will backup any new content, which includes the new 
>> Lion install. However, if you want to do things right and you have the space 
>> available; I suggest you partition the drive and clone the internal drive. 
>> You may then have to start over as far as backing up stuff via TIme Machine, 
>> but since the drive will have ben cloned, it would not be a problem. It is 
>> always a good idea to clone your existing drive before upgrades etc. just in 
>> the event something goes wrong.
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
>>> time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
>>> might need to be reinstalled post lion?
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Re: a couple of trackpad commander questions

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Donna and anybody else who might be interested!
Well I've just got a track pad yesterday and was playing around with it when 
[just by chance] in mail I was scrolling the header list like 
subject,from,date, mailbox!
And without taking my finger off the track pad I pressed the control key and 
sure enough it went into the message text and I could go through the message 
and again without taking my finger off pressing the control key put me back on 
the message headings!
Then I could scroll up and down through each message!
So I think [I could be wrong ] you might have been tapping the track pad with 
the control key pressed so just try pressing the control key whilst still on 
the track pad!
hth Colin
PS. Still a lot to learn on the track pad!

On 10 Jul 2011, at 15:12, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> 
> thanks for this info.  I knew that  there are some gestures that are 
> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help 
> section very useful.
> 
>  I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using 
> the trackpad.  that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that 
> this obviously works on the iPhone.  It's interesting, too, because 
> doubletapping does work for opening an app.  But, at least I know I wasn't 
> missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the 
> messages table read (another major oversight imho)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on 
>> Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H 
>> to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting Started Guide" 
>> and return.  Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press "g e s" to get the 
>> two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the Commands and 
>> Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go directly to 
>> Appendix A and navigate to the section on "VoiceOver standard gestures". 
>> (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press "s t".)  A lot of these will be 
>> familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some other ones like 
>> going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of 
>> trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser menus (two finger 
>> double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how 
>> VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the 
>> Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are different.
>> 
>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table 
>> announced at once with TrackPad commander.  
>> 
>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail
>> 
>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions.  Maybe somebody 
>> else can give you better answers.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad 
>>> commander, and have a couple of questions.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Is there any way to view a list of commands?  when I go into the assign 
>>> Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands are 
>>> displayed.
>>> 
>>> 2.  How do I navigate in Mail?  Single-finger flicking takes me out of the 
>>> messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads the 
>>> column that I'm on.  I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I do when 
>>> not using the trackpad commander.
>>> 
>>> 3.  How do I open a message in mail?  I would have thought you would do 
>>> this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: Are there any audio described stuff in the Itunes store?

[Bryan Jones]

Hi Soren,

I'm not sure if you'll be able to get these. but here are links for 2 animated 
movies with descriptive audio. These are the only two I'm aware of currently in 
the US iTunes store, but there might be others.

Toy Story 3:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/toy-story-3-with-descriptive/id393469956

Up!
http://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/up-for-blind-viewers-audio/id327127329

HTH,
Bryan

On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
> I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I'm disparately searching for ways to get 
> audio described movies in legal ways. Well, BBC won't let us outside the UK 
> stream their shows in legal ways, so I was thinking if there are any audio 
> described movies in the Itunes store

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hard disc format?

So I was poking around my system trying to figure out why I lost 200 GB of 
space on my hard disc, even though I know where it went, I just can't get it 
back.  Anyways, it said my mac hard disc is in Mac OS extended journal format.  
Is that what it's suppose to be in, or did something get screwed up?  Also, 
will need help on a fresh install after Lion comes out since I want all 
available space on my hard disc.  Thanks.
Kliphton SR
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Re: a couple of trackpad commander questions

[Jim Fettgather]

According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the the 
control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the messages 
table in mail to the text.

I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some 
reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program.
Thanks


  
On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> 
> thanks for this info.  I knew that  there are some gestures that are 
> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help 
> section very useful.
> 
>  I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using 
> the trackpad.  that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that 
> this obviously works on the iPhone.  It's interesting, too, because 
> doubletapping does work for opening an app.  But, at least I know I wasn't 
> missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the 
> messages table read (another major oversight imho)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on 
>> Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H 
>> to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting Started Guide" 
>> and return.  Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press "g e s" to get the 
>> two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the Commands and 
>> Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go directly to 
>> Appendix A and navigate to the section on "VoiceOver standard gestures". 
>> (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press "s t".)  A lot of these will be 
>> familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some other ones like 
>> going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of 
>> trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser menus (two finger 
>> double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how 
>> VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the 
>> Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are different.
>> 
>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table 
>> announced at once with TrackPad commander.  
>> 
>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail
>> 
>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions.  Maybe somebody 
>> else can give you better answers.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad 
>>> commander, and have a couple of questions.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Is there any way to view a list of commands?  when I go into the assign 
>>> Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands are 
>>> displayed.
>>> 
>>> 2.  How do I navigate in Mail?  Single-finger flicking takes me out of the 
>>> messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads the 
>>> column that I'm on.  I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I do when 
>>> not using the trackpad commander.
>>> 
>>> 3.  How do I open a message in mail?  I would have thought you would do 
>>> this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Are there any audio described stuff in the Itunes store?

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.
I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I'm disparately searching for ways to get 
audio described movies in legal ways. Well, BBC won't let us outside the UK 
stream their shows in legal ways, so I was thinking if there are any audio 
described movies in the Itunes store if I had an american Itunes store account?
Best regards:
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Re: errasing history items in the new Skype

[Mike Arrigo]

There is a setting in preferences to do this. Also, if you interact with the 
table of the recent list, you can delete things by opening the actions menu, 
the new skype seems to make heavy use of that.
On Jul 9, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Say, anybody got any notion how to erase history items or deal with them in 
> the new Skype.  Interacting with an item in the history seems not to be 
> possible; nor is deleting an item.  No short cut menu either.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
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> 
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> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Missy Hoppe]

Hi! I thought Nambu was no longer being developed. That's one of the main 
reasons I didn't try using it; I simply assumed it
wouldn't be coded to handle Twitter's new authorization scheme. It sure sounds 
like it was neat, though.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

Hi,
Both Nambu and Yurofukuru, (how the heck do they spell that name?) provides 
those features already. Nambu, in my oppinion has
the best implementation of the "write tweets from anywhere" type of feature, 
although it lacks other features i want to see.
Both apps have shortcuts for bringing up a new tweet dialog and to focus on the 
timeline.
Don't remember now why i chose Yurofukuru over Nambu though. The cool thing 
with nambu is that you actually can tweet even if
the app itself isn't running.
/Krister

10 jul 2011 kl. 14.38 skrev Ashley Cox:

> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?),
there could be a keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a 
dialog in which you could compose a tweet.
> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
> great, distracting
> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
> timeline
>
>
>
>
> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best 
>> about qwitter is that it runs in the
background;
>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>> losing your place in whatever program you were
in.
>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>> needs quite adequately.
>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to 
>> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>> Missy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>>
>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>>
>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>>
>>
>>   That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>>
>>
>> Just my thoughts.
>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific
Twitter
>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>> another planet?
>>> /Krister
>>>
>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>>>
 Hello,

 there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:

 * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
 rewrite all modules about keyboard
 * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
 * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows


 well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
 twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes
and
>> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
 I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store




 Regards
>>

Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Both Nambu and Yurofukuru, (how the heck do they spell that name?) provides 
those features already. Nambu, in my oppinion has the best implementation of 
the "write tweets from anywhere" type of feature, although it lacks other 
features i want to see. Both apps have shortcuts for bringing up a new tweet 
dialog and to focus on the timeline.
Don't remember now why i chose Yurofukuru over Nambu though. The cool thing 
with nambu is that you actually can tweet even if the app itself isn't running.
/Krister

10 jul 2011 kl. 14.38 skrev Ashley Cox:

> Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application I 
> describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a keystroke 
> that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in which you could 
> compose a tweet.
> I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, while 
> great, distracting
> Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with the 
> timeline
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best 
>> about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
>> you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
>> alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
>> document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
>> losing your place in whatever program you were in.
>> Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
>> needs quite adequately.
>> Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to 
>> be ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
>> over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
>> background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?
>> 
>> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
>> qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
>> twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
>> either more hidden away or in the wrong place.
>> 
>> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
>> columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
>> you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
>> in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
>> to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
>> profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.
>> 
>> 
>>   That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
>> Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
>> unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
>> who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
>> tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
>> twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.
>> 
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
>>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
>> client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
>> specific solutions and be more standard, thus
>> being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I 
>> can understand the need for one or more blind
>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>> another planet?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
 
 * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
 rewrite all modules about keyboard
 * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
 * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
 
 
 well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
 twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
>> it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
 I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
 
 
 
 
 Regards
Jonathan Chacón Barbero
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Re: a couple of trackpad commander questions

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Esther,

thanks for this info.  I knew that  there are some gestures that are different 
from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help section very 
useful.

  I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using 
the trackpad.  that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that this 
obviously works on the iPhone.  It's interesting, too, because doubletapping 
does work for opening an app.  But, at least I know I wasn't missing something, 
either in regards to this or having all columns of the messages table read 
(another major oversight imho)
Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on 
> Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H 
> to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting Started Guide" 
> and return.  Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press "g e s" to get the 
> two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the Commands and 
> Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go directly to Appendix 
> A and navigate to the section on "VoiceOver standard gestures". (I'd use VO-U 
> for the web rotor and press "s t".)  A lot of these will be familiar to you 
> from using the iPhone, but there are some other ones like going to the dock 
> or menu bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of trackpad), or 
> opening the application or window chooser menus (two finger double tap along 
> left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how VoiceOver reads text 
> (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the Command key while your 
> finger touches the trackpad, that are different.
> 
> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table 
> announced at once with TrackPad commander.  
> 
> 3. I press return to open a message in mail
> 
> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions.  Maybe somebody 
> else can give you better answers.  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad commander, 
>> and have a couple of questions.
>> 
>> 1.  Is there any way to view a list of commands?  when I go into the assign 
>> Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands are 
>> displayed.
>> 
>> 2.  How do I navigate in Mail?  Single-finger flicking takes me out of the 
>> messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads the 
>> column that I'm on.  I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I do when 
>> not using the trackpad commander.
>> 
>> 3.  How do I open a message in mail?  I would have thought you would do this 
>> with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: voice over keys..

[mário gabriel]

hi brother.
 thanks foryour information
very good.
regards.

From: Red.Falcon 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: voice over keys..


Hi mário! 
Sure the vo keys are at the left of the space bar!
>From very left to right 
fn, control, option and command

The control and option keys are the vo [voiceover ] keys!
Each end of the space bar are command keys and to right of the right command 
key is another option key!
hth Colin
If you press vo+k that will put you in keyboard help and you can press all 
kinds of key combinations to find out what or if they do!
And when you've had enough of that just press escape!
Until you press escape what ever keys you press will not do anything but tell 
you what they do, so you cannot hurt anything!
After pressing escape you'll be back in normal use!


On 10 Jul 2011, at 14:11, mário gabriel wrote:


  hi folks.
  somebody tell me Which are the keys vo and command?
  thanks.


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Re: Voice over hot spots

[matthew Dyer]

Ok well it is not working.  Did I do something rong?  If I  press vo 1 for 
example, I am still in my gmail mail box or what ever mail box I was left in 
before pressing the command.

Matthew


On Jul 10, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote:

> Yes, it should be as you say.
> On 8 Jul 2011, at 15:41, matthew Dyer wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have set up hot spots for my mail programs to jump between the different 
>> mail boxes.  How ever, in testing them, It only takes me to my gmail and I 
>> have 4  acccounts which I have hot spots seup for.  Correct me if I am rong, 
>> but is it not vo and the number of the hot spot the way to jump between 
>> them?  Thanks.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
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Re: voice over keys..

[mário gabriel]

hi missy.
yes your help mi nice.
thanks.


From: Missy Hoppe 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: voice over keys..


The VO keys are control and option. Command is not considered one of the VO 
keys. So, for example, to go into keyboard help mode, you'd press control, 
option and the letter K.
Good luck, and hope that answers your question.




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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:11 AM
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Subject: voice over keys..


hi folks.
somebody tell me Which are the keys vo and comand?
thanks.

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Re: voice over keys..

[Red.Falcon]

Hi mário!
Sure the vo keys are at the left of the space bar!
>From very left to right 
fn, control, option and command
The control and option keys are the vo [voiceover ] keys!
Each end of the space bar are command keys and to right of the right command 
key is another option key!
hth Colin
If you press vo+k that will put you in keyboard help and you can press all 
kinds of key combinations to find out what or if they do!
And when you've had enough of that just press escape!
Until you press escape what ever keys you press will not do anything but tell 
you what they do, so you cannot hurt anything!
After pressing escape you'll be back in normal use!

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> hi folks.
> somebody tell me Which are the keys vo and command?
> thanks.
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Re: Time To Lower Volume Again.

[Georges Zaynoun]

Sorry I sent this by mistake to the list.

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Time To Lower Volume Again.

[Georges Zaynoun]

Hello!

Am noticing since today morning little distortion like two weeks ago or 
more when I wrote about it and it was fixed, time to fix it again, 
everything is loud somehow, regards.


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RE: voice over keys..

[Missy Hoppe]

The VO keys are control and option. Command is not considered one of the VO 
keys. So, for example, to go into keyboard help
mode, you'd press control, option and the letter K.
Good luck, and hope that answers your question.

  _  

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hi folks.
somebody tell me Which are the keys vo and comand?
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Re: drop box

[May McDonald]

Ah ok, thanks for that information. I'll try again. 

May and the famous Prince Noah

On 2011-07-10, at 8:57 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Just a quick addition to this. Through some really easy steps
> (tweeting, facebook, sharing, and so forth) you can get more space. My
> dropbox is at 3.25gb, and I still haven't paid anything for it.
> It is true that uploading seems to take a while, and that can be
> frustrating if you have a lot of information to put in your dropbox.
> Still, changes seem to be faster than the initial upload, so putting
> everything in there and leaving it overnight should get you started
> and avoid the waiting.
> 
> On 7/10/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> Hi May,  A couple of things to consider.  The limit on a free dropbox
>> account is about 2 gb to start with, so you can't put more than that into
>> your dropbox at any given time.
>> Also, The dropbox has to upload your material to the server before it can
>> show the file sizes.  Uploading 2 gig here takes about 10 hours.  My
>> internet stinks and it's entirely possible you can do it in about half that
>> time,  but 2 gigs is still 2 gigs.  If you bought a premium dropbox account
>> and you're trying to upload 20 gigs, well, that's going to be a good sized
>> project.  It'll take a while before you start seeing the files actually in
>> your dropbox.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
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>>> I thought I saved the messages regarding drop box, but I guess I deleted
>>> them in my mass delete. I could use some help. I'm trying to share my
>>> books folder, but it's saying the the each file is 0 bites which I know is
>>> not correct. What am I doing wrong, help help!!
>>> 
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voice over keys..

[mário gabriel]

hi folks.
somebody tell me Which are the keys vo and comand?
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Re: drop box

[Alex Hall]

Just a quick addition to this. Through some really easy steps
(tweeting, facebook, sharing, and so forth) you can get more space. My
dropbox is at 3.25gb, and I still haven't paid anything for it.
It is true that uploading seems to take a while, and that can be
frustrating if you have a lot of information to put in your dropbox.
Still, changes seem to be faster than the initial upload, so putting
everything in there and leaving it overnight should get you started
and avoid the waiting.

On 7/10/11, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> Hi May,  A couple of things to consider.  The limit on a free dropbox
> account is about 2 gb to start with, so you can't put more than that into
> your dropbox at any given time.
> Also, The dropbox has to upload your material to the server before it can
> show the file sizes.  Uploading 2 gig here takes about 10 hours.  My
> internet stinks and it's entirely possible you can do it in about half that
> time,  but 2 gigs is still 2 gigs.  If you bought a premium dropbox account
> and you're trying to upload 20 gigs, well, that's going to be a good sized
> project.  It'll take a while before you start seeing the files actually in
> your dropbox.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
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> On 2011-07-09, at 10:54 PM, May McDonald wrote:
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>> I thought I saved the messages regarding drop box, but I guess I deleted
>> them in my mass delete. I could use some help. I'm trying to share my
>> books folder, but it's saying the the each file is 0 bites which I know is
>> not correct. What am I doing wrong, help help!!
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Re: drop box

[erik burggraaf]

Hi May,  A couple of things to consider.  The limit on a free dropbox account 
is about 2 gb to start with, so you can't put more than that into your dropbox 
at any given time.
Also, The dropbox has to upload your material to the server before it can show 
the file sizes.  Uploading 2 gig here takes about 10 hours.  My internet stinks 
and it's entirely possible you can do it in about half that time,  but 2 gigs 
is still 2 gigs.  If you bought a premium dropbox account and you're trying to 
upload 20 gigs, well, that's going to be a good sized project.  It'll take a 
while before you start seeing the files actually in your dropbox.

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> correct. What am I doing wrong, help help!!
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Ashley Cox]

Yes, agreed. Perhaps, if someone were to create the twitter application 
I describe below (how about calling it tweeter?), there could be a 
keystroke that was global, that when pressed would pop up a dialog in 
which you could compose a tweet.
I do find sometimes that the ability to read tweets from anywhere is, 
while great, distracting
Perhaps another keystroke could be added that popped up a dialog with 
the timeline





On 10/07/2011 13:18, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best 
about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
losing your place in whatever program you were in.
Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
needs quite adequately.
Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be 
ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
Missy


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On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
either more hidden away or in the wrong place.

It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.


   That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.


Just my thoughts.
On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: 
Do we really need a blind specific Twitter

client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
specific solutions and be more standard, thus
being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can 
understand the need for one or more blind
specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
another planet?

/Krister

9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:


Hello,

there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:

* keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
rewrite all modules about keyboard
* window dialog management is very different in OSX.
* there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows


well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter 
client for OSX managed using keystrokes and

it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.

I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store




Regards
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RE: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Missy Hoppe]

Very well said. The only thing I'd like to add is that the thing I like best 
about qwitter is that it runs in the background;
you can just use it where-ever you are on the computer without having to 
alt-tab to it first. So, if you're writing a
document, or playing a game for example, you can just check tweets without 
losing your place in whatever program you were in.
Apart from that particular convenience, Yorufukuru on the mac does meet my 
needs quite adequately.
Anyway, what is described below sounds perfect to me, but if qwitter were to be 
ported to the mac somehow, I'd only use it
over what is already available because of its ability to just run in the 
background. I hope that makes some kind of sense.
Missy


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ashley Cox
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of
qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other
twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are
either more hidden away or in the wrong place.

It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4
columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then
you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested
in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability
to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter
profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.


  That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client.
Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of
unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but
who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio
tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my
twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.


Just my thoughts.
On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter
client? Wasn't it so that we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind 
specific solutions and be more standard, thus
being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on equal terms? I can 
understand the need for one or more blind
specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
another planet?
> /Krister
>
> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>>
>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
>> rewrite all modules about keyboard
>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
>>
>>
>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and
it uses speech capabilityes to show the twiter information.
>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>  Jonathan Chacón Barbero
>>Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
>>
>> Phone: +34 679953948
>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero
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Re: cleaning up mac?

Yes I did, and then I restarted the mac.  but it's still showing me the same 
amount of space that I had before I deleted the vm machine

Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone

On Jul 10, 2011, at 12:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Normally you won't need to defrag the drive on OSX. Just to check the basics, 
> did you empty the trash after you got rid of the virtual machine?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/9/11 11:01 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, how do you defrag your hard drive?  And what other tools can I use to 
>> get rid of things I'm not using and have already uninstalled?  I am having 
>> an issue with my available space.  I had over 700 gb avialble before I tried 
>> to install windows with vm fusion, realized that I did somethings wrong, and 
>> deleted the entire vm, but my available space didn't return to what it was 
>> before I installed the VM machine.  How can I fix this?
>> Kliphton SR
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Re: lion

[Ray Foret Jr]

Am I mistaken or can one clone a drive via utilities?


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> Your TIme Machine drive will backup any new content, which includes the new 
> Lion install. However, if you want to do things right and you have the space 
> available; I suggest you partition the drive and clone the internal drive. 
> You may then have to start over as far as backing up stuff via TIme Machine, 
> but since the drive will have ben cloned, it would not be a problem. It is 
> always a good idea to clone your existing drive before upgrades etc. just in 
> the event something goes wrong.
> 
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
>> time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
>> might need to be reinstalled post lion?
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Yorufukuru does what you ask as i understand.
The only thing i would want from Quitter is the ability to post tweets without 
having to be in the main window. Nambu does that, sorta, and Yorufukuru 
apparently also does this in a way although i don't really know how that works. 
The one thing i want to see in Yorufukuru is the time stamp in readable text 
beside the tweets, i don't want to go places to see just the time a tweet was 
posted, i'm too lazy for that.
/Krister

10 jul 2011 kl. 11.45 skrev Ashley Cox:

> I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of qwitter 
> was simply because it provides features that most of the other twitter 
> clients do not, or if they provide those features they are either more hidden 
> away or in the wrong place.
> 
> It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 columns 
> lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then you could add 
> more columns for specific people who you are interested in, so only there 
> tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability to follow people, 
> unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter profile. You could 
> customise the time before new tweets are received.
> 
> 
> That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. Many of 
> the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of unnecessary 
> features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but who needs to do a 
> bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio tweets, I would use one 
> of the services already available... and my twitter client definetly doesn't 
> need a stopwatch build in.
> 
> 
> Just my thoughts.
> On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
>> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that 
>> we chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be 
>> more standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted 
>> people on equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind 
>> specific solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on 
>> another planet?
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>>> 
>>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
>>> rewrite all modules about keyboard
>>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX.
>>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
>>> 
>>> 
>>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
>>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech 
>>> capabilityes to show the twiter information.
>>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero
>>>   Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
>>> 
>>> Phone: +34 679953948
>>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
>>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
>>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero
>>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com
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Re: lion

[Scott Howell]

Your TIme Machine drive will backup any new content, which includes the new 
Lion install. However, if you want to do things right and you have the space 
available; I suggest you partition the drive and clone the internal drive. You 
may then have to start over as far as backing up stuff via TIme Machine, but 
since the drive will have ben cloned, it would not be a problem. It is always a 
good idea to clone your existing drive before upgrades etc. just in the event 
something goes wrong.

On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
> time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
> might need to be reinstalled post lion?
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Re: [Bulk] Re: Will It Be Easy To Install Lion?

[Scott Howell]

Kevin,

You will be fine with 2Gb of ram, but of course 4 would not hurt and might help 
a bit; however, again, 2Gb will be fine.
You will only need the original discs etc. for any software you plan to 
reinstall. If you are performing an upgrade, you will not need these items. 
However, if you have lost any of your discs, I suggest you work on obtaining 
new copies. There is always that one chance you may have to reinstall the 
software etc.

On Jul 10, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> I've also discovered that my 2010 Mac Mini, which I bought to learn VO
> last December, only has 2GB of RAM.  Do I have to upgrade to 4GB of
> RAM to run Lion?  And, do I have to find my iWork disc to reinstall
> after Lion?  What about migrating mail, docs, etc?
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Ashley Cox]

I see what you're saying. The only reason I wanted to see a port of 
qwitter was simply because it provides features that most of the other 
twitter clients do not, or if they provide those features they are 
either more hidden away or in the wrong place.


It would be great if someone would write a twitter client that had 4 
columns lined up; timeline, direct messages, mentions, and sent. Then 
you could add more columns for specific people who you are interested 
in, so only there tweets showed up. Then a simple tweet box. The ability 
to follow people, unfollow people, and a button to go to their twitter 
profile. You could customise the time before new tweets are received.



 That's it; that, in my oppinion, would be the perfect twitter client. 
Many of the other clients (including qwitter itself) have a lot of 
unnecessary features. For example, not to diss qwitter in any way, but 
who needs to do a bing search from a twitter client? If I wanted audio 
tweets, I would use one of the services already available... and my 
twitter client definetly doesn't need a stopwatch build in.



Just my thoughts.
On 10/07/2011 10:20, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: 
Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose 
the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more 
standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on 
equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions 
in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet?
/Krister

9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:


Hello,

there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:

* keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
rewrite all modules about keyboard
* window dialog management is very different in OSX.
* there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows


well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a twitter 
client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech capabilityes to show 
the twiter information.
I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store




Regards
Jonathan Chacón Barbero
   Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant

Phone: +34 679953948
e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
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Re: ASF streaming format won't play in anything I have.

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Flip4Mac did handle it; thanks.  I just usually use Itunes for everything, one 
of my students asked me about this.


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Re: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word users.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Missy,

In Pages preferences, you can choose to have Pages always open with a specific 
template.

To create your own template, you start with a blank document and set up all the 
elements you want, then go to the File menu and select Save as Template.

You can even include place-holder text which you can overwrite when you start 
typing.

Cheers,

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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Krister,
I agree completely, for what it's worth.  I switched to mac for this reason 
among many others, and am not a fan of blindness-specific solutions, if they 
can be avoided.  I am personally quite happy with YoruFukurou as a very 
powerful, and mainstream, Twitter client.  I doubt the two of us are alone on 
this planet.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list 
> this: Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we 
> chose the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more 
> standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on 
> equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific 
> solutions in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another 
> planet?
> /Krister
> 
> 9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
>> 
>> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
>> rewrite all modules about keyboard
>> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. 
>> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
>> 
>> 
>> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
>> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech 
>> capabilityes to show the twiter information.
>> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>>  Jonathan Chacón Barbero
>>  Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
>> 
>> Phone: +34 679953948
>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
>> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero
>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com
>> Skype: Tyflos_
>> FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
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Re: Porting qwitter to mac?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Look, i don't want to diss your product, Jonathan but i must ask the list this: 
Do we really need a blind specific Twitter client? Wasn't it so that we chose 
the Mac platform to get away from blind specific solutions and be more 
standard, thus being able to more easily communicate with sighted people on 
equal terms? I can understand the need for one or more blind specific solutions 
in the PC world, but here? Am i naive, stupid, living on another planet?
/Krister

9 jul 2011 kl. 19.41 skrev Jonathan Chacón Barbero:

> Hello,
> 
> there are some problems to develop a ported version of Qwitter:
> 
> * keystroke management is very different in OSX than Windows... We have to 
> rewrite all modules about keyboard
> * window dialog management is very different in OSX. 
> * there are few diferences in IO file system for OSX and Windows
> 
> 
> well, I have a good news... I'm developing Blindtweet for OSX. It is a 
> twitter client for OSX managed using keystrokes and it uses speech 
> capabilityes to show the twiter information.
> I hope finish it for september and it will be in the Mac app store
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
>   Jonathan Chacón Barbero
>   Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
> 
> Phone: +34 679953948
> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
> Blog: http://www.programaraciegas.es
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero
> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com
> Skype: Tyflos_
> FaceTime: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
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Re: Voice over hot spots

[Simon Cavendish]

Yes, it should be as you say.
On 8 Jul 2011, at 15:41, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have set up hot spots for my mail programs to jump between the different 
> mail boxes.  How ever, in testing them, It only takes me to my gmail and I 
> have 4  acccounts which I have hot spots seup for.  Correct me if I am rong, 
> but is it not vo and the number of the hot spot the way to jump between them? 
>  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
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RE: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word users.

[Missy Hoppe]

Thank you for the suggestion! I didn't even know that creating a new template 
was possible! How would I go about setting it
up and if I did so, would it really be possible to make pages use it by default 
from now on? Would love one that was just
plain text: no header, no footter and wordwrap enabled, of course. Thanks for 
the idea. I will start trying to play around
and see if I can get anywhere.
Missy

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word 
users.

Hello Missy,

Have you thought of creating your own template with the font, margins, 
hyphenation and any other preferences you always like
to use? You could then always open Pages with your own template.

Cheers,

Anne


On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Thanks for this! It's strange, though that you can't set the hyphanation 
> option in preferences; the fact that you have to
> change it fore each individual document is a teency bit annoying, but at 
> least now, I know it can be done. Maybe in a
future
> bersion of pages, they'll add some formatting stuff to preferences. That sure 
> would be nice. Thanks again for sharing such
> helpful information. It is extremely appreciated.
> Missy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word 
> users.
>
> Hi Joshua,
>
> Hyphenation is automatically set to "on" in Pages, and to turn it off on a 
> document wide level you need to go to the
> Inspector in the toolbar, then select (VO-Space) the "Document" radio button 
> (first entry), and on the "Document" tab (1 of
> 3) you'll find a checkbox for "Hyphenate" that you should uncheck.  I set 
> this up quite a while ago, and couldn't remember
> exactly how this worked, since I don't use Pages that often.  So here's the 
> pasted in information from Apple's Help and the
> web page source URL:
>
> • Pages 4.0 Help: Using Automatic Hyphenation
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Pages/4.0/en/sl1503c622.html
> 
> Using Automatic Hyphenation
>
> By default, Pages automatically hyphenates words if they need to break at the 
> end of a line.
>
> Here are ways to turn hyphenation on or off:
>   • To turn hyphenation on or off for the entire document, click 
> Inspector in the toolbar, click the Document button,
> and then select or deselect Hyphenate (in the Document pane).
>
>   • To turn off hyphenation for a particular paragraph, select the 
> paragraph, click Inspector in the toolbar, click the
> Text button, click More, and then select “Remove hyphenation for paragraph.”
>
>   • To turn hyphenation on or off for a word, click the word while 
> holding down the Control key, and then choose Never
> Hyphenate or Allow Hyphenation from the shortcut menu.
>
> Turning hyphenation on or off for a word will affect every instance of that 
> word in your document.
> 
>
> Also, since you mention routinely converting your Pages documents to Word 
> documents, you might be interested in an
> AppleScript that will batch export any selected Pages documents to Word 
> format.  Yuma asked  whether there was something
like
> this on the list at the beginning of the year.  The Mail Archive site for 
> this list has a wonderful search feature, so
typing
> in "Yuma pages convert" brought up the post right away.  I'll paste in the 
> relevant information:
> 
> A Google search turned up the following source from MacScripter (subject was
> Pages 09 export as word doc):
> (From Yvan Koenig):
>
> Go to my iDisk :
>
> 
>
> Download :
> For_iWork:iWork '09:for_Pages09:batch_exportPages2DOC.zip
>
> Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France)
>
> According to the instructions you can run this and select the folder
> of Pages documents you would like to batch convert to .doc format.
> 
>
> You can save the AppleScript to the "Library/Scripts" folder of your home 
> directory.  Then you could select it from the
> AppleScripts menu on your status menu bar.  When the script runs, you would 
> select a folder with documents in Pages format.
> The script creates a second folder named "was__now_Doc" with Word 
> formatted versions of the same files.  The easy
> way to use this would be to assign it a keyboard shortcut of your choosing 
> under System Preferences > Keyboard under the
> "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab.  But this is only something to consider if you 
> create lots of Pages documents and want to batch
> convert all of them at one time. This isn't something I use myself.
>
> HTH.  Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 09:58, Joshua Loya wrote:
>
>> H

Re: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word users.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Missy,

Have you thought of creating your own template with the font, margins, 
hyphenation and any other preferences you always like to use? You could then 
always open Pages with your own template.

Cheers,

Anne


On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Thanks for this! It's strange, though that you can't set the hyphanation 
> option in preferences; the fact that you have to
> change it fore each individual document is a teency bit annoying, but at 
> least now, I know it can be done. Maybe in a future
> bersion of pages, they'll add some formatting stuff to preferences. That sure 
> would be nice. Thanks again for sharing such
> helpful information. It is extremely appreciated.
> Missy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word 
> users.
> 
> Hi Joshua,
> 
> Hyphenation is automatically set to "on" in Pages, and to turn it off on a 
> document wide level you need to go to the
> Inspector in the toolbar, then select (VO-Space) the "Document" radio button 
> (first entry), and on the "Document" tab (1 of
> 3) you'll find a checkbox for "Hyphenate" that you should uncheck.  I set 
> this up quite a while ago, and couldn't remember
> exactly how this worked, since I don't use Pages that often.  So here's the 
> pasted in information from Apple's Help and the
> web page source URL:
> 
> • Pages 4.0 Help: Using Automatic Hyphenation
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Pages/4.0/en/sl1503c622.html
> 
> Using Automatic Hyphenation
> 
> By default, Pages automatically hyphenates words if they need to break at the 
> end of a line.
> 
> Here are ways to turn hyphenation on or off:
>   • To turn hyphenation on or off for the entire document, click 
> Inspector in the toolbar, click the Document button,
> and then select or deselect Hyphenate (in the Document pane).
> 
>   • To turn off hyphenation for a particular paragraph, select the 
> paragraph, click Inspector in the toolbar, click the
> Text button, click More, and then select “Remove hyphenation for paragraph.”
> 
>   • To turn hyphenation on or off for a word, click the word while 
> holding down the Control key, and then choose Never
> Hyphenate or Allow Hyphenation from the shortcut menu.
> 
> Turning hyphenation on or off for a word will affect every instance of that 
> word in your document.
> 
> 
> Also, since you mention routinely converting your Pages documents to Word 
> documents, you might be interested in an
> AppleScript that will batch export any selected Pages documents to Word 
> format.  Yuma asked  whether there was something like
> this on the list at the beginning of the year.  The Mail Archive site for 
> this list has a wonderful search feature, so typing
> in "Yuma pages convert" brought up the post right away.  I'll paste in the 
> relevant information:
> 
> A Google search turned up the following source from MacScripter (subject was
> Pages 09 export as word doc):
> (From Yvan Koenig):
> 
> Go to my iDisk :
> 
> 
> 
> Download :
> For_iWork:iWork '09:for_Pages09:batch_exportPages2DOC.zip
> 
> Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France)
> 
> According to the instructions you can run this and select the folder
> of Pages documents you would like to batch convert to .doc format.
> 
> 
> You can save the AppleScript to the "Library/Scripts" folder of your home 
> directory.  Then you could select it from the
> AppleScripts menu on your status menu bar.  When the script runs, you would 
> select a folder with documents in Pages format.
> The script creates a second folder named "was__now_Doc" with Word 
> formatted versions of the same files.  The easy
> way to use this would be to assign it a keyboard shortcut of your choosing 
> under System Preferences > Keyboard under the
> "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab.  But this is only something to consider if you 
> create lots of Pages documents and want to batch
> convert all of them at one time. This isn't something I use myself.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 9, 2011, at 09:58, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Hello Folks,
>> 
>> I currently write a monthly column for my mother's web site, and I have 
>> unrelated projects I'll be submitting for
> publication in the very near future.. I'm using a Mac, and my mother is using 
> a PC with Jaws. When I send her Word documents
> that I have created with Pages, many of the words get split between two 
> lines. For instance, the word depression, is split
> between 'dep' and ression' on two separate lines. I also have similar issues 
> with other word processing documents, n Pages
> and Text Edit, which I have written for my own use. The only writing software 
> I don't have any trouble with is Mac Journal,
> Story Mill, and Mars Edit. I

RE: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word users.

[Missy Hoppe]

Thanks for this! It's strange, though that you can't set the hyphanation option 
in preferences; the fact that you have to
change it fore each individual document is a teency bit annoying, but at least 
now, I know it can be done. Maybe in a future
bersion of pages, they'll add some formatting stuff to preferences. That sure 
would be nice. Thanks again for sharing such
helpful information. It is extremely appreciated.
Missy


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Formatting problem in Pages and Text Edit + Sharing with MS Word 
users.

Hi Joshua,

Hyphenation is automatically set to "on" in Pages, and to turn it off on a 
document wide level you need to go to the
Inspector in the toolbar, then select (VO-Space) the "Document" radio button 
(first entry), and on the "Document" tab (1 of
3) you'll find a checkbox for "Hyphenate" that you should uncheck.  I set this 
up quite a while ago, and couldn't remember
exactly how this worked, since I don't use Pages that often.  So here's the 
pasted in information from Apple's Help and the
web page source URL:

• Pages 4.0 Help: Using Automatic Hyphenation
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Pages/4.0/en/sl1503c622.html

Using Automatic Hyphenation

By default, Pages automatically hyphenates words if they need to break at the 
end of a line.

Here are ways to turn hyphenation on or off:
• To turn hyphenation on or off for the entire document, click 
Inspector in the toolbar, click the Document button,
and then select or deselect Hyphenate (in the Document pane).

• To turn off hyphenation for a particular paragraph, select the 
paragraph, click Inspector in the toolbar, click the
Text button, click More, and then select “Remove hyphenation for paragraph.”

• To turn hyphenation on or off for a word, click the word while 
holding down the Control key, and then choose Never
Hyphenate or Allow Hyphenation from the shortcut menu.

Turning hyphenation on or off for a word will affect every instance of that 
word in your document.


Also, since you mention routinely converting your Pages documents to Word 
documents, you might be interested in an
AppleScript that will batch export any selected Pages documents to Word format. 
 Yuma asked  whether there was something like
this on the list at the beginning of the year.  The Mail Archive site for this 
list has a wonderful search feature, so typing
in "Yuma pages convert" brought up the post right away.  I'll paste in the 
relevant information:

A Google search turned up the following source from MacScripter (subject was
Pages 09 export as word doc):
(From Yvan Koenig):

Go to my iDisk :



Download :
For_iWork:iWork '09:for_Pages09:batch_exportPages2DOC.zip

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France)

According to the instructions you can run this and select the folder
of Pages documents you would like to batch convert to .doc format.


You can save the AppleScript to the "Library/Scripts" folder of your home 
directory.  Then you could select it from the
AppleScripts menu on your status menu bar.  When the script runs, you would 
select a folder with documents in Pages format.
The script creates a second folder named "was__now_Doc" with Word 
formatted versions of the same files.  The easy
way to use this would be to assign it a keyboard shortcut of your choosing 
under System Preferences > Keyboard under the
"Keyboard Shortcuts" tab.  But this is only something to consider if you create 
lots of Pages documents and want to batch
convert all of them at one time. This isn't something I use myself.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 9, 2011, at 09:58, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Hello Folks,
>
> I currently write a monthly column for my mother's web site, and I have 
> unrelated projects I'll be submitting for
publication in the very near future.. I'm using a Mac, and my mother is using a 
PC with Jaws. When I send her Word documents
that I have created with Pages, many of the words get split between two lines. 
For instance, the word depression, is split
between 'dep' and ression' on two separate lines. I also have similar issues 
with other word processing documents, n Pages
and Text Edit, which I have written for my own use. The only writing software I 
don't have any trouble with is Mac Journal,
Story Mill, and Mars Edit. I would really appreciate any advice you can 
provide. I originally got my Mac for use with audio
production software like Pro Tools, but I would also like to use it for all of 
my writing, regardless of the platforms the
people I am collaborating with are using.
>
> Thanks much,
> Joshua
>

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Re: [Bulk] Re: lion

[Ray Foret Jr]

Time Machine will serve as the backup you need; because, you see, it backs up 
every single file on your drive.  At least, that's what I believe.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Jul 10, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> The only external drive I have is my time machine drive. Can I use the
> time machine drive is my external drive to back up all my stuff that
> might need to be reinstalled post lion?
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