reading emails with braille

2011-09-07 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi everyone,
I am exploring the new mail for the first time. I am a heavy braille user and 
while the message table and conversations itself work well with braille when I 
hit enter on a message while it is read by speech I can't seem to read it with 
the braille display.
Is it still possible to read incoming mail messages with the braille display?
Thanks in advance,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi Anne,
Thanks a lot for this reminder. I too am an international user and would really 
appreciate it if people would point out wether or not a certain scanning/ocr 
solution is multilingual or just English.
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,
On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR to 
 get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Help excepting authorization requests in iChat

2011-09-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

Go to the window menu and cursor down until you get to the authorisation 
request and press enter.  If you do not see an authorisation button, press VO 
F5 then press VO shift F5 together and then you can authorise.  Keep doing this 
until all is authorised.

HTH.

Kawal.

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On 7 Sep 2011, at 01:34 AM, Brett C. blindinnova...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I get an authorization request popup in iChat, I just see a close 
 button. I can't find any way to except an authorization in iChat. Can anyone 
 tell me how to do this?
 
 Brett C.
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Yes, Jaws works with no problem.  Don't know why you have issues as I did a 
fresh install of Lion using my mew USB stick purchased from Apple and installed 
windoes 7 using BM.

Kawal. 

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On 7 Sep 2011, at 04:57 AM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:

 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for future 
 listers.
 
I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got Jaws 
 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine Jaws 
 will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it to 
 start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the JAWS 
 settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Drawing the screen curtain

2011-09-07 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi Jonny 

The screen curtain is mostly for privacy, not power saving.  It just colours 
the screen black.  On my new MBA I have the macs colourrs reversed so when I 
turn on screen curtain it makes the screen glow white. Unfortunately not really 
what I am going for with the limited sight I have. At least it is quick and 
easy to turn down the screen. effe

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On 07/09/2011, at 1:35 PM, Johnny Angel! beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Recardo,
 
 H.  That's exactly what I was doing.  Seems to me I heard you say this 
 once before.  So then, what in fact is happening when the curtain is invoked? 
  Just cureous.  And thanks for the clairification.
 
 Johnny
 
 On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:40 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'd just like to add, if you are using a macbook turning on screen curtain 
 does not conserve battery life.  If this is your main goal as well as 
 privacy dim your screen to 0% by pressing function plus F1.  To brighten 
 press function plus F2.  at 0% your screen will be completely off.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Dan wrote:
 
 Hello, Also, VO Shift F11, will activate or deactivate the screen curtain.
 HTH,
 
 Dan
 
 On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi, at this time, I only know how to do this with the trackpad.  Triple 
 tap with 3 fingers, this will toggle screen curtain on/off.
 
 HTH,
 Traci
 
 On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote:
 
 Hi there fellow Macvisionaries,
 
 Would someone please tell me how I can invoke the screen curtain?  But 
 also, does this affect how Vo operates? 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Johnny Angel!
 Student of Happiness
 
 beefca...@neo.rr.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Eric,
I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't you 
remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion?
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:

 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
   By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
   I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it to 
 start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
   I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi all,
I'm wondering in this regard, which scanner has proven to be a good device with 
accessible and non intrucive drivers. If you listers own a scanner, and you can 
work well with things like abbey fine reader, with image capture and so on, 
without being disturbed by an inaccessible  driver window popping up while you 
work in those programs, then please share the brand and type of scanner with me 
and others. I now have an old cannon lide 25 scanner, but its latest drivers 
and add-on software, the older ones I have never seen, are not really 
accessible. I would like to buy a usb powered one, but if another choice is 
better, of course I'm also open to that. Any advice is much appreciated.

On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:

 Hi Anne,
 Thanks a lot for this reminder. I too am an international user and would 
 really appreciate it if people would point out wether or not a certain 
 scanning/ocr solution is multilingual or just English.
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion if 
 this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to send by 
 email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility or app for 
 working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's own 
 drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit and 
 miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: reading emails with braille

2011-09-07 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I have read mails in braille with no problems.

I will have to try to figure out why you can not see the mails.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 7, 2011 kl. 8:55 AM skrev Anouk Radix:

 Hi everyone,
 I am exploring the new mail for the first time. I am a heavy braille user and 
 while the message table and conversations itself work well with braille when 
 I hit enter on a message while it is read by speech I can't seem to read it 
 with the braille display.
 Is it still possible to read incoming mail messages with the braille display?
 Thanks in advance,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Kawal and Paul,

thanks for this added info.

My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a strange 
message that says something like can not connect file 
User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things seem 
to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided to create 
a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS directly.  That 
went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It seems to 
work except it won't hold the check box setting to start at log in.  This makes 
me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I need it to come up talking. 

So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I can't 
get either one to work correctly. 

I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone else 
has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the machines. 

Tips are greatly appreciated.

eRic Caron  
On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't you 
 remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
  By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
  I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
  I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Kawal and Paul,

thanks for this added info.

My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a strange 
message that says something like can not connect file 
User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things seem 
to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided to create 
a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS directly.  That 
went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It seems to 
work except it won't hold the check box setting to start at log in.  This makes 
me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I need it to come up talking. 

So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I can't 
get either one to work correctly. 

I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone else 
has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the machines. 

Tips are greatly appreciated.

Eric Caron 
On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't you 
 remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
  By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
  I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
  I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Paul.

In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many years 
been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that product the 
express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can use the program, 
with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I am scanning really 
many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get with fine reader express.

But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that really 
works great.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:

 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and OCR 
 solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy it. 
 Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be great 
 if they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer that 
 question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion docuscan is 
 great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I will 
 be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, 
 hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that 
 the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero 
 Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Do you have your keys mapped in Fusion?  Just in case you are missing a 
dialogue?  I now do not use sharpe keys.

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Sep 2011, at 11:28 AM, Eric Caron eric.caro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
thanks for this added info.
 
My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
 Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
 Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things 
 seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided to 
 create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS directly. 
  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It 
 seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start at log in.  
 This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I need it to come 
 up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone else 
 has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
 working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the 
 machines. 
 
 Tips are greatly appreciated.
 
 eRic Caron  
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't you 
 remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Paul,

I have a Cannon Lide 110 USB-powered portable scanner which you should be able 
to find for around €70. I use it with VueScan to get the images, which are then 
handed to ABBYY FineReader Express. I scan books this way because I find it 
convenient to scan a whole book into one file, and then have FineReader perform 
the OCR.

I use VueScan to create a TIFF file containing all the images of double pages, 
and I have all TIFF files set to open with ABBYY FineReader by default.

The results I get depend very much on how well I flatten out the book for 
scanning.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:18, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm wondering in this regard, which scanner has proven to be a good device 
 with accessible and non intrucive drivers. If you listers own a scanner, and 
 you can work well with things like abbey fine reader, with image capture and 
 so on, without being disturbed by an inaccessible  driver window popping up 
 while you work in those programs, then please share the brand and type of 
 scanner with me and others. I now have an old cannon lide 25 scanner, but its 
 latest drivers and add-on software, the older ones I have never seen, are not 
 really accessible. I would like to buy a usb powered one, but if another 
 choice is better, of course I'm also open to that. Any advice is much 
 appreciated.
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 Thanks a lot for this reminder. I too am an international user and would 
 really appreciate it if people would point out wether or not a certain 
 scanning/ocr solution is multilingual or just English.
 Thanks,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you use 
 any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that this 
 list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register it 
 for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the Apple 
 version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works well with 
 VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all kinds of 
 scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to RTF, TXT, 
 create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, and turn 
 scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the HoverCam 
 digital camera that can be purchased along with the software from Sero 
 Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Annie,

In what respect are you not satisfied with fine reader express? You scan many 
books, so where is express reader lacking functionality that you have in 
windows fine reader pro?
Paul.a
On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi Paul.
 
 In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many 
 years been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that 
 product the express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can 
 use the program, with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I am 
 scanning really many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get with 
 fine reader express.
 
 But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
 I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that really 
 works great.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:
 
 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and OCR 
 solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy it. 
 Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be 
 great if they could add support for other languages, but they do not answer 
 that question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion 
 docuscan is great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I 
 will be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning solution, 
 hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the impression that 
 the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you 
 use any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember that 
 this list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register 
 it for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the 
 Apple version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works 
 well with VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for all 
 kinds of scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned text to 
 RTF, TXT, create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated Braille file, 
 and turn scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the 
 HoverCam digital camera that can be purchased along with the software 
 from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very hit 
 and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using OCR 
 to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the document?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Eric,
Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem as you 
seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold from shutdown 
to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my friend and his 
friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We have checked the 
permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside windows, to see if 
somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores its configuration data, 
a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on other systems, retain its 
settings, while on the vm it would not. We were starting to think that this was 
a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian freedom scientific workers helped 
debugging the problem one entire afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's 
friend, came up with the solution, found by accident.

What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know of, is 
that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all your user 
settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find that from 
then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, and 
whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it seems that this is 
a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my friend's friend 
encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He passed it on, and now 
it works for my friend as well. 
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
   thanks for this added info.
 
   My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
 Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
 Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things 
 seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided to 
 create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS directly. 
  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It 
 seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start at log in.  
 This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I need it to come 
 up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone else 
 has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
 working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the 
 machines. 
 
 Tips are greatly appreciated.
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't you 
 remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
 By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
 I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
 I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: reading emails with braille

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Anouk if you interact with the text of the message you can read it just fine in 
braille.
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I am exploring the new mail for the first time. I am a heavy braille user and 
 while the message table and conversations itself work well with braille when 
 I hit enter on a message while it is read by speech I can't seem to read it 
 with the braille display.
 Is it still possible to read incoming mail messages with the braille display?
 Thanks in advance,
 Greetings, Anouk,
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread KliphSharrie
I have it working in my VM flawlessly.  The trick is to have it start at start 
up, and check the box that says always start up for this user.  Just for 
backup, I always create a desc top short cut so if jaws doesn't start, I can 
just hit alt control J and jaws will come on.  HTH


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 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for future 
 listers.
 
I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got Jaws 
 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine Jaws 
 will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it to 
 start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at it. 
I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the JAWS 
 settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and authorization 
 sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way too much time 
 trying to get this VM working! 
 
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Re: Scanners and OCR

2011-09-07 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Paul.

 Well I scan two pages at a time on my old epson gt15000. I also use vuescan 
for the scanning, because it is rather difficult in fine reader express.

I experience that fine reader express has its lacks in e.g. if you scan double 
pages, sometimes it works, but fine reader express will not recognize them as 2 
pages, to me it is a problem, because I like that there are a new page when 
there are a new page in the text. And then I feel columns that's not always 
correct.

The OCR is ok, but there are a little more words that can not be read than in 
the professional version, but again it is also another price.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 7, 2011 kl. 1:36 PM skrev Paul Erkens:

 Hi Annie,
 
 In what respect are you not satisfied with fine reader express? You scan many 
 books, so where is express reader lacking functionality that you have in 
 windows fine reader pro?
 Paul.a
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi Paul.
 
 In my opinion abbyy fine reader express can be used. But I have for many 
 years been using fine reader professional in windows. Compared to that 
 product the express edition is a little frustrating. But of course you can 
 use the program, with ok results. It depends on what your are scanning. I am 
 scanning really many books. I am not satisfied with the results i get with 
 fine reader express.
 
 But of course the fine reader express is a good price.
 I hope in the future that we will really get a scanning program, that really 
 works great.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 11:43 AM skrev Paul Erkens:
 
 Hi Annie,
 Are you saying that fine reader express is not a sufficient scanning and 
 OCR solution? Interested to hear your thoughts on that, as I'm about to buy 
 it. Any info or experience appreciated.
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have tried contacting the developer of docuscan, because it would be 
 great if they could add support for other languages, but they do not 
 answer that question at all. My brother has also asked them. In my opinion 
 docuscan is great but rather slow.
 
 vuescan can do some OCR recognition now, and fine reader express, but I 
 will be the first to admit, that we really need a better scanning 
 solution, hopefully that will be possible in the future. I have the 
 impression that the developer of vuescan is working hard on that part.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 6, 2011 kl. 8:42 AM skrev Anne Robertson:
 
 Once again, I must point out that DocuScan only handles English. If you 
 use any other language, this solution is not for you. Please remember 
 that this list is international!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:21, David Tanner wrote:
 
 Your best and most accessible scanning choice for the price is DocuScan 
 Plus.  You can download a trial version from the App Store and register 
 it for a 7 day trial period.  The price is $299 and gives you both the 
 Apple version and the QWindows version too, if you need it.  It works 
 well with VoiceOver, is simple to use, has lots of power features for 
 all kinds of scanning, recognizing PDF files, and converting scanned 
 text to RTF, TXT, create MP3 file of the text, saving as a formated 
 Braille file, and turn scaned text into a Daisy book.
 
 It can be used with a variety of scanners or you can purchase the 
 HoverCam digital camera that can be purchased along with the software 
 from Sero Tech.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Mark Colman 
 mark.a.col...@googlemail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:07 AM
 Subject: Scanners and OCR
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Would like to get some advice on using scanners with a Mac (running Lion 
 if this is relevant). I occasionally need to scan printed documents to 
 send by email or for archival purposes. Does Mac OS have its own utility 
 or app for working with a scanner or are we reliant upon manufacturer's 
 own drivers/software (which, from past experience on Windows, is very 
 hit and miss as far as accessibility is concerned).
 
 Also, what experience do people have of scanning a document and using 
 OCR to get VoiceOver (or whatever) to read out the contents of the 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you were 
planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem as 
 you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold from 
 shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my friend 
 and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We have 
 checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside windows, 
 to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores its 
 configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on other 
 systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were starting 
 to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian freedom 
 scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire afternoon, but no 
 luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know of, 
 is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all your 
 user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find that 
 from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, 
 and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it seems that 
 this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my friend's 
 friend encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He passed it on, 
 and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
thanks for this added info.
 
My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
 Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
 Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things 
 seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided 
 to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS 
 directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute 
 mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start 
 at log in.  This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I 
 need it to come up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone 
 else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
 working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the 
 machines. 
 
 Tips are greatly appreciated.
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't 
 you remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into 
 fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at 
 it. 
I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and 
 authorization sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way 
 too much time trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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police scanner for Mac?

2011-09-07 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Hi,

Anybody ever try the app Police scanner?  If so, is it accessible?

The Iphone version of -50 seems to be pretty much accessible.  Just wanted to 
know before I paid $4.00 for the thing.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac HD/library/scripts.  
The next thing you will want to do is set up a keyboard command to activate the 
script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and go to commanders.  Select keyboard 
commander.  Now select the add button.  You will be placed in an edit field 
where you type in the letter or number you wish to use to activate the script.  
press VO right arrow once and you will be on a pop up menu press VO spacebar to 
open it.  arrow down to custom and select and then go to scripts.  A file 
browser will open up and you just arrow to the script you want and press enter. 
 Now pressing option plus the letter or number you chose will activate the 
script.  By default, I believe the right option key is used for the keyboard 
commander.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however I 
 cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.
  
 Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?
  
 For example, a script I'm interested in is:
 Say Battery Capacity
 http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144
  
 Thank you,
 Traci
  
 
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Re: shutting down with lion

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

You might want to make sure you've closed all apps.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:01 PM, craig J Dunlop wrote:

 ever since I have put lion on my macbook pro it seems to take several 
 attempts to get the computer to turn off. when I hit enter ore vo space bar 
 it just sits for ever. I some times have to do this 3 or 4 times to get the 
 computer to shutdown. has any one ells seen this?
 any ideas on what is going on?
 I am going to be traveling in a couple of weeks and need to make sure it is 
 off before i put in the carry on.
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Traci

Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask this...

I first download it from the web like usual, yes?  It would land on my 
desktop, then I'd drag and drop into the library scripts folder?


Lol, thank you,
Traci

- Original Message - 
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: downloading  running scripts


Hi,

Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac HD/library/scripts. 
The next thing you will want to do is set up a keyboard command to activate 
the script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and go to commanders.  Select 
keyboard commander.  Now select the add button.  You will be placed in an 
edit field where you type in the letter or number you wish to use to 
activate the script.  press VO right arrow once and you will be on a pop up 
menu press VO spacebar to open it.  arrow down to custom and select and then 
go to scripts.  A file browser will open up and you just arrow to the script 
you want and press enter.  Now pressing option plus the letter or number you 
chose will activate the script.  By default, I believe the right option key 
is used for the keyboard commander.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:


Hi all,

I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however 
I cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.


Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?

For example, a script I'm interested in is:
Say Battery Capacity
http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144

Thank you,
Traci


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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

When you download it it should be in your downloads folder.  From the finder, 
you can get to your downloads folder by pressing command option L.  The file 
might be compressed into a zip file or something so you will have to just open 
this and copy the actual script with command C and paste in the location I 
noted before with command V.  Let me know if you need more help.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Traci wrote:

 Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask this...
 
 I first download it from the web like usual, yes?  It would land on my 
 desktop, then I'd drag and drop into the library scripts folder?
 
 Lol, thank you,
 Traci
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: downloading  running scripts
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac HD/library/scripts. 
 The next thing you will want to do is set up a keyboard command to activate 
 the script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and go to commanders.  Select 
 keyboard commander.  Now select the add button.  You will be placed in an 
 edit field where you type in the letter or number you wish to use to activate 
 the script.  press VO right arrow once and you will be on a pop up menu press 
 VO spacebar to open it.  arrow down to custom and select and then go to 
 scripts.  A file browser will open up and you just arrow to the script you 
 want and press enter.  Now pressing option plus the letter or number you 
 chose will activate the script.  By default, I believe the right option key 
 is used for the keyboard commander.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however I 
 cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.
 
 Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?
 
 For example, a script I'm interested in is:
 Say Battery Capacity
 http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144
 
 Thank you,
 Traci
 
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Traci
Hello, thank you.

I went into help and read more about the Apple script menu.  I have turned it 
on, however I cannot see this script folder inside the library.

What step do you think I could be missing?

Traci

On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 When you download it it should be in your downloads folder.  From the finder, 
 you can get to your downloads folder by pressing command option L.  The file 
 might be compressed into a zip file or something so you will have to just 
 open this and copy the actual script with command C and paste in the location 
 I noted before with command V.  Let me know if you need more help.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Traci wrote:
 
 Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask this...
 
 I first download it from the web like usual, yes?  It would land on my 
 desktop, then I'd drag and drop into the library scripts folder?
 
 Lol, thank you,
 Traci
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: downloading  running scripts
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac HD/library/scripts. 
 The next thing you will want to do is set up a keyboard command to activate 
 the script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and go to commanders.  Select 
 keyboard commander.  Now select the add button.  You will be placed in an 
 edit field where you type in the letter or number you wish to use to 
 activate the script.  press VO right arrow once and you will be on a pop up 
 menu press VO spacebar to open it.  arrow down to custom and select and then 
 go to scripts.  A file browser will open up and you just arrow to the script 
 you want and press enter.  Now pressing option plus the letter or number you 
 chose will activate the script.  By default, I believe the right option key 
 is used for the keyboard commander.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however I 
 cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.
 
 Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?
 
 For example, a script I'm interested in is:
 Say Battery Capacity
 http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144
 
 Thank you,
 Traci
 
 
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Recommended .aiff settings

2011-09-07 Thread Traci
Hi all,

I know to add custom sounds to Mac, they need to be in .aiff format.  What is 
the recommended settings for the sound?

The encoder options I chose were, sampler 16, rate 1600.  It made the file a 
farely small size, 300k for one of them, and 500k for the other.

Does this sound pretty good to y'all?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Kawal,

Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two years ago 
I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when working on a 
unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I would love it.  
He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and before I knew it the rep 
was asking me questions as she said she loved her iPhone and was considering 
getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help with my work PC and Jaws.  I 
mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and told him I didn't 
expect him to answer that question as it was not supported.  In fact, he gave 
me a good idea to try and seemed familiar with the Mac.  The Mac seems to, in 
my experience, be becoming popular with at least some of these reps.  It really 
was one of these reps that was the final straw resulting in my purchase of my 
Mac.  I've never looked back!

In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in all 
these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready knowledgeable about 
the Mac or curious about them.


Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am convinced 
that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be better then my 
experience on a native PC. 

Eric Caron 
On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you were 
 planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem as 
 you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold from 
 shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my friend 
 and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We have 
 checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside 
 windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores 
 its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on 
 other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were 
 starting to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian 
 freedom scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire 
 afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the solution, 
 found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know of, 
 is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all your 
 user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find that 
 from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, 
 and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it seems that 
 this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my 
 friend's friend encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He 
 passed it on, and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
   thanks for this added info.
 
   My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
 Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
 Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things 
 seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided 
 to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS 
 directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute 
 mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start 
 at log in.  This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I 
 need it to come up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone 
 else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having 
 this working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the 
 machines. 
 
 Tips are greatly appreciated.
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't 
 you remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into 
 fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
   By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
   I created a new 

Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Paul and others,

I will try this suggestion,  However, I'm not sure where the option to 
reset to factory settings is.  I'll look for it but if you know please share.

Also, I have not tried it yet but in passing a helpful Freedom 
Scientific Rep suggested that in windows 7 I could simply paste the JAWS 
shortcut into the Start up folder found under all programs and that should make 
it work in my VM machine.  I'll report back on how VM Fusion works with that 
once I figure it out!

the more I push my Mac's abilities the more amazed and productive I am.  

Eric Caron 
On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem as 
 you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold from 
 shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my friend 
 and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We have 
 checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside windows, 
 to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores its 
 configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on other 
 systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were starting 
 to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian freedom 
 scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire afternoon, but no 
 luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know of, 
 is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all your 
 user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find that 
 from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, 
 and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it seems that 
 this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my friend's 
 friend encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He passed it on, 
 and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
  thanks for this added info.
 
  My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
 Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
 Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things 
 seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided 
 to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS 
 directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute 
 mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start 
 at log in.  This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I 
 need it to come up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone 
 else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
 working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the 
 machines. 
 
 Tips are greatly appreciated.
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't 
 you remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into 
 fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at 
 it. 
I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and 
 authorization sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way 
 too much time trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Paul and others,

I will try this suggestion,  However, I'm not sure where the option to 
reset to factory settings is.  I'll look for it but if you know please share.

Also, I have not tried it yet but in passing a helpful Freedom 
Scientific Rep suggested that in windows 7 I could simply paste the JAWS 
shortcut into the Start up folder found under all programs and that should make 
it work in my VM machine.  I'll report back on how VM Fusion works with that 
once I figure it out!

the more I push my Mac's abilities the more amazed and productive I am.  

Eric Caron 
On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem as 
 you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold from 
 shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my friend 
 and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We have 
 checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside windows, 
 to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores its 
 configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on other 
 systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were starting 
 to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian freedom 
 scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire afternoon, but no 
 luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know of, 
 is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all your 
 user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find that 
 from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, autostart, 
 and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it seems that 
 this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be clear, my friend's 
 friend encountered this same problem on a native windows pc. He passed it on, 
 and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
  thanks for this added info.
 
  My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual machine/BootCamp/ 
 Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can not find the file. 
 Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then press OK and things 
 seem to work all right.  this error message made me concerned so I decided 
 to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 disk and instal JAWS 
 directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up JAWS, still in 40 minute 
 mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the check box setting to start 
 at log in.  This makes me concerned that it won't work correctly.  Plus I 
 need it to come up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone 
 else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS is helpful.  I'm close to having this 
 working!  Perhaps there is just a setting I need to fix in one of the 
 machines. 
 
 Tips are greatly appreciated.
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 I'm aware that people sometimes have issues with jaws when importing their 
 bootcamp partition into fusion but I can't tell you what is wrong. Can't 
 you remove the authorization from bootcamp, and then reinstall it into 
 fusion?
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Listers using VM Fusion,
 
By the thime I get this working I'll be able to be a consultant for 
 future listers.
 
I created a new VM not with Boot Camp and after fighting a bit I got 
 Jaws 12 to instal.  No matter what I do when I restart the virtual machine 
 Jaws will not come up talking.  I noticed that once I check the box for it 
 to start at start up the check box is unchecked the next time I look at 
 it. 
I don't want to wast a license on the machine if it will not hold the 
 JAWS settings.  Anyone have this working and the settings and 
 authorization sticking?  Any tips?  This mac lover has been spending way 
 too much time trying to get this VM working! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Traci!
Just making sure!:]
Are you sure your looking in the HD library and not your own in your home 
library!
But if after that you still cannot find a scripts folder in your HD just make 
one!
And when you go to name it make sure you start it with a capital S not a lower 
case s and then you can put your scripts in there!
hth Colin

On 7 Sep 2011, at 17:49, Traci wrote:

 Hello, thank you.
 
 I went into help and read more about the Apple script menu.  I have turned it 
 on, however I cannot see this script folder inside the library.
 
 What step do you think I could be missing?
 
 Traci
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When you download it it should be in your downloads folder.  From the 
 finder, you can get to your downloads folder by pressing command option L.  
 The file might be compressed into a zip file or something so you will have 
 to just open this and copy the actual script with command C and paste in the 
 location I noted before with command V.  Let me know if you need more help.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Traci wrote:
 
 Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask this...
 
 I first download it from the web like usual, yes?  It would land on my 
 desktop, then I'd drag and drop into the library scripts folder?
 
 Lol, thank you,
 Traci
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: downloading  running scripts
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac HD/library/scripts. 
 The next thing you will want to do is set up a keyboard command to activate 
 the script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and go to commanders.  Select 
 keyboard commander.  Now select the add button.  You will be placed in an 
 edit field where you type in the letter or number you wish to use to 
 activate the script.  press VO right arrow once and you will be on a pop up 
 menu press VO spacebar to open it.  arrow down to custom and select and 
 then go to scripts.  A file browser will open up and you just arrow to the 
 script you want and press enter.  Now pressing option plus the letter or 
 number you chose will activate the script.  By default, I believe the right 
 option key is used for the keyboard commander.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however 
 I cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.
 
 Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?
 
 For example, a script I'm interested in is:
 Say Battery Capacity
 http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144
 
 Thank you,
 Traci
 
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Traci
Hi, :)

No, I'm not sure I'm looking in the right spot at all.  Where is my hd library?

I've found the library and scripts folders in my home folder, and this is where 
I put my script.  However, when I go to set up a keyboard commander for it, I 
can't find it.  The script shows up under the script menu.

Looks like I need a bit more help.

Thanks all,
Traci

On Sep 7, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

 Hi Traci!
 Just making sure!:]
 Are you sure your looking in the HD library and not your own in your home 
 library!
 But if after that you still cannot find a scripts folder in your HD just make 
 one!
 And when you go to name it make sure you start it with a capital S not a 
 lower case s and then you can put your scripts in there!
 hth Colin
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 17:49, Traci wrote:
 
 Hello, thank you.
 
 I went into help and read more about the Apple script menu.  I have turned 
 it on, however I cannot see this script folder inside the library.
 
 What step do you think I could be missing?
 
 Traci
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When you download it it should be in your downloads folder.  From the 
 finder, you can get to your downloads folder by pressing command option L.  
 The file might be compressed into a zip file or something so you will have 
 to just open this and copy the actual script with command C and paste in 
 the location I noted before with command V.  Let me know if you need more 
 help.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Traci wrote:
 
 Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask this...
 
 I first download it from the web like usual, yes?  It would land on my 
 desktop, then I'd drag and drop into the library scripts folder?
 
 Lol, thank you,
 Traci
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: downloading  running scripts
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac 
 HD/library/scripts. The next thing you will want to do is set up a 
 keyboard command to activate the script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and 
 go to commanders.  Select keyboard commander.  Now select the add button.  
 You will be placed in an edit field where you type in the letter or number 
 you wish to use to activate the script.  press VO right arrow once and you 
 will be on a pop up menu press VO spacebar to open it.  arrow down to 
 custom and select and then go to scripts.  A file browser will open up and 
 you just arrow to the script you want and press enter.  Now pressing 
 option plus the letter or number you chose will activate the script.  By 
 default, I believe the right option key is used for the keyboard commander.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however 
 I cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.
 
 Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?
 
 For example, a script I'm interested in is:
 Say Battery Capacity
 http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144
 
 Thank you,
 Traci
 
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my activation.  I 
told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion and as soon as the 
representative heard that he said he would not support me by giving me a new 
activation unless I wanted it for a native windows PC.  This year I went to 
Site Village (an exhibition for all access Technology) and Eric Damerie was 
there and I told him that I was running Jaws on a Mac and he simply did not 
approve.

Kawal.
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On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:

 Hi Kawal,
 
   Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two years 
 ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when working on a 
 unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I would love it.  
 He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and before I knew it the 
 rep was asking me questions as she said she loved her iPhone and was 
 considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help with my work PC 
 and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and told 
 him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it was not supported.  In 
 fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed familiar with the Mac.  The 
 Mac seems to, in my experience, be becoming popular with at least some of 
 these reps.  It really was one of these reps that was the final straw 
 resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  I've never looked back!
 
 In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in all 
 these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready knowledgeable about 
 the Mac or curious about them.
 
 
 Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am convinced 
 that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be better then my 
 experience on a native PC. 
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you 
 were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem as 
 you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold from 
 shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my friend 
 and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We have 
 checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside 
 windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores 
 its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on 
 other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were 
 starting to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian 
 freedom scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire 
 afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the 
 solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know 
 of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all 
 your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may find 
 that from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, 
 autostart, and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it 
 seems that this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be 
 clear, my friend's friend encountered this same problem on a native windows 
 pc. He passed it on, and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
  thanks for this added info.
 
  My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual 
 machine/BootCamp/ Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can 
 not find the file. Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then 
 press OK and things seem to work all right.  this error message made me 
 concerned so I decided to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 
 disk and instal JAWS directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up 
 JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the 
 check box setting to start at log in.  This makes me concerned that it 
 won't work correctly.  Plus I need it to come up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines available at the moment.  I only on ant one but I 
 can't get either one to work correctly. 
 
 I really appreciate the tips and information.  Even just knowing someone 
 else has Lyon working with VM and JAWS 

Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Traci
Ok all, I've gotten further in this, but I have also messed up.

I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my script is 
already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out how to move it.

Should I move it to trash and download it again?

Oh the fun of trial and error.  :)

Thanks so much,
Traci

On Sep 7, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

 Hi Traci!
 Just making sure!:]
 Are you sure your looking in the HD library and not your own in your home 
 library!
 But if after that you still cannot find a scripts folder in your HD just make 
 one!
 And when you go to name it make sure you start it with a capital S not a 
 lower case s and then you can put your scripts in there!
 hth Colin
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 17:49, Traci wrote:
 
 Hello, thank you.
 
 I went into help and read more about the Apple script menu.  I have turned 
 it on, however I cannot see this script folder inside the library.
 
 What step do you think I could be missing?
 
 Traci
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When you download it it should be in your downloads folder.  From the 
 finder, you can get to your downloads folder by pressing command option L.  
 The file might be compressed into a zip file or something so you will have 
 to just open this and copy the actual script with command C and paste in 
 the location I noted before with command V.  Let me know if you need more 
 help.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Traci wrote:
 
 Ok, I'm almost embarrassed to ask this...
 
 I first download it from the web like usual, yes?  It would land on my 
 desktop, then I'd drag and drop into the library scripts folder?
 
 Lol, thank you,
 Traci
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:48 AM
 Subject: Re: downloading  running scripts
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Here's what you do.  Take the script and copy it to Mac 
 HD/library/scripts. The next thing you will want to do is set up a 
 keyboard command to activate the script.  Open VO utilities with VO F8 and 
 go to commanders.  Select keyboard commander.  Now select the add button.  
 You will be placed in an edit field where you type in the letter or number 
 you wish to use to activate the script.  press VO right arrow once and you 
 will be on a pop up menu press VO spacebar to open it.  arrow down to 
 custom and select and then go to scripts.  A file browser will open up and 
 you just arrow to the script you want and press enter.  Now pressing 
 option plus the letter or number you chose will activate the script.  By 
 default, I believe the right option key is used for the keyboard commander.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Traci wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been doing some googling and looking through group archives, however 
 I cannot find a tutorial on my first download and install of scripts.
 
 Does anyone know of a good resource, or can share some instructions?
 
 For example, a script I'm interested in is:
 Say Battery Capacity
 http://chicksdigmacs.net/node/144
 
 Thank you,
 Traci
 
 
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Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Why didn't he approve?  Why would FS even care.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my activation.  
 I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion and as soon as the 
 representative heard that he said he would not support me by giving me a new 
 activation unless I wanted it for a native windows PC.  This year I went to 
 Site Village (an exhibition for all access Technology) and Eric Damerie was 
 there and I told him that I was running Jaws on a Mac and he simply did not 
 approve.
 
 Kawal.
 ___
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 (E-mail/MSN):
 kawa...@me.com
 
 (Skype ID):
 
 kawalgucukoglu
 
 (Mobile/text):
 
 +447905618396
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
  Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two years 
 ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when working on a 
 unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I would love it. 
  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and before I knew it the 
 rep was asking me questions as she said she loved her iPhone and was 
 considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help with my work PC 
 and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and told 
 him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it was not supported.  In 
 fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed familiar with the Mac.  The 
 Mac seems to, in my experience, be becoming popular with at least some of 
 these reps.  It really was one of these reps that was the final straw 
 resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  I've never looked back!
 
 In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in 
 all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready knowledgeable 
 about the Mac or curious about them.
 
 
 Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am convinced 
 that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be better then my 
 experience on a native PC. 
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you 
 were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem 
 as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold 
 from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my 
 friend and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We 
 have checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside 
 windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores 
 its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on 
 other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were 
 starting to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian 
 freedom scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire 
 afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the 
 solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know 
 of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all 
 your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may 
 find that from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, 
 autostart, and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because it 
 seems that this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be 
 clear, my friend's friend encountered this same problem on a native 
 windows pc. He passed it on, and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
 thanks for this added info.
 
 My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual 
 machine/BootCamp/ Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can 
 not find the file. Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then 
 press OK and things seem to work all right.  this error message made me 
 concerned so I decided to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 
 disk and instal JAWS directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up 
 JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It seems to work except it won't hold the 
 check box setting to start at log in.  This makes me concerned that it 
 won't work correctly.  Plus I need it to come up talking. 
 
 So, I have two machines 

Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Geoff Shang

On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Traci wrote:

I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my 
script is already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out 
how to move it.


find your script, then use command-c to copy and then go where you want to 
put it and use command option p to move it.  A regular command p would 
just copy it without removing the original.


HTH,
Geoff.

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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I think you meant Command V and command option V

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www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

 On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Traci wrote:
 
 I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my script 
 is already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out how to move 
 it.
 
 find your script, then use command-c to copy and then go where you want to 
 put it and use command option p to move it.  A regular command p would just 
 copy it without removing the original.
 
 HTH,
 Geoff.
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Traci

Wooh-Hooh!  Success!

Oh my gall, this was a tough one to figure out.  For some reason it pasted 
in the library folder.  I had to copy and move/paste it again into the 
script folder.


I've successfully asigned a key command for it as well!

Thank you all!
Traci

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Hi,

I think you meant Command V and command option V

Ricardo Walker
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www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:


On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Traci wrote:

I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my 
script is already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out 
how to move it.


find your script, then use command-c to copy and then go where you want 
to put it and use command option p to move it.  A regular command p would 
just copy it without removing the original.


HTH,
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This has brought up library questions

2011-09-07 Thread Traci
Ok, so I've overcome the downloading and installing my simple battery script, 
however this has now brought up library questions for me.

Do I always want to put items in the hd library instead of the home library?  
For example, I plan on adding custom system sounds.  Would I put these inside 
the sounds folder of the hd library, not the home library?

Why are there two?  A bit confusing.  :)

Thank you,
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Re: This has brought up library questions

2011-09-07 Thread james Walton
where did you find the scrips!
i am surprised i did not find all of this online!
hmmm!

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Re: -- SPAM --Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread David McLean
I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare.  I didn't tell them I was 
running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway.
On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Why didn't he approve?  Why would FS even care.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my activation. 
  I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion and as soon as 
 the representative heard that he said he would not support me by giving me a 
 new activation unless I wanted it for a native windows PC.  This year I went 
 to Site Village (an exhibition for all access Technology) and Eric Damerie 
 was there and I told him that I was running Jaws on a Mac and he simply did 
 not approve.
 
 Kawal.
 ___
 Kawal Gucukoglu
 (E-mail/MSN):
 kawa...@me.com
 
 (Skype ID):
 
 kawalgucukoglu
 
 (Mobile/text):
 
 +447905618396
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two years 
 ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when working on a 
 unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I would love 
 it.  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and before I knew 
 it the rep was asking me questions as she said she loved her iPhone and was 
 considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help with my work PC 
 and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting in my VM and told 
 him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it was not supported.  
 In fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed familiar with the Mac.  
 The Mac seems to, in my experience, be becoming popular with at least some 
 of these reps.  It really was one of these reps that was the final straw 
 resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  I've never looked back!
 
 In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in 
 all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready knowledgeable 
 about the Mac or curious about them.
 
 
 Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am 
 convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be 
 better then my experience on a native PC. 
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you 
 were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem 
 as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold 
 from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is my 
 friend and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. We 
 have checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked inside 
 windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where jaws stores 
 its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, would jaws, on 
 other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it would not. We were 
 starting to think that this was a fusion problem. Even one of the Belgian 
 freedom scientific workers helped debugging the problem one entire 
 afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, came up with the 
 solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know 
 of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying all 
 your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you may 
 find that from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit spelling, 
 autostart, and whatever. Please try that and report back on it, because 
 it seems that this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to trace. To be 
 clear, my friend's friend encountered this same problem on a native 
 windows pc. He passed it on, and now it works for my friend as well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
 thanks for this added info.
 
 My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual 
 machine/BootCamp/ Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image Can 
 not find the file. Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I then 
 press OK and things seem to work all right.  this error message made me 
 concerned so I decided to create a new virtual machine with my windows 7 
 disk and instal JAWS directly.  That went ok until I decided to set up 
 JAWS, still in 40 minute mode.  It 

Save as on Pages

2011-09-07 Thread Francisco Salvador Crespo
Hi,

My question of today is: how can i shave a Pages document as a Word document?

Thanks,

Francisco

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Re: -- SPAM --Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Hi Eric, I am new in the list and I see you got lots of tips already. But for 
me, I just had to delete all my virtual machines, reinstall from scratch and 
configured my setting only after I had the full license of jaws running. And 
insure my fusion had the vmware tools installed and running. 
I also have full sharing setting between both systems. Every thing works well 
now. But I also made a shortcut to start jaws in case something goes wrong.
My only big trouble is the keyboard, because a lot of my jaws short cuts 
conflicts with some of my mac ones. I hardly use jaws any more though.
It was a freedom support person who helped me decided to finally switch to a 
MAC, but unfortunately every time I have called after, they always tell me jaws 
does not work in the virtual machine, since first I had parallels and I had 
lots of issues until I switch to fusion. It does work well for the most part.
Hope this can be of help

Cheers,
Rachel
On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:06 PM, David McLean wrote:

 I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare.  I didn't tell them I was 
 running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Why didn't he approve?  Why would FS even care.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my 
 activation.  I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion and 
 as soon as the representative heard that he said he would not support me by 
 giving me a new activation unless I wanted it for a native windows PC.  
 This year I went to Site Village (an exhibition for all access Technology) 
 and Eric Damerie was there and I told him that I was running Jaws on a Mac 
 and he simply did not approve.
 
 Kawal.
 ___
 Kawal Gucukoglu
 (E-mail/MSN):
 kawa...@me.com
 
 (Skype ID):
 
 kawalgucukoglu
 
 (Mobile/text):
 
 +447905618396
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two 
 years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when 
 working on a unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I 
 would love it.  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and 
 before I knew it the rep was asking me questions as she said she loved her 
 iPhone and was considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help 
 with my work PC and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting 
 in my VM and told him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it 
 was not supported.  In fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed 
 familiar with the Mac.  The Mac seems to, in my experience, be becoming 
 popular with at least some of these reps.  It really was one of these reps 
 that was the final straw resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  I've never 
 looked back!
 
 In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in 
 all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready 
 knowledgeable about the Mac or curious about them.
 
 
 Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am 
 convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be 
 better then my experience on a native PC. 
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you 
 were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem 
 as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold 
 from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is 
 my friend and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. 
 We have checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked 
 inside windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where 
 jaws stores its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, 
 would jaws, on other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it 
 would not. We were starting to think that this was a fusion problem. 
 Even one of the Belgian freedom scientific workers helped debugging the 
 problem one entire afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, 
 came up with the solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know 
 of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying 
 all your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you 
 may find that from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit 
 spelling, autostart, and whatever. Please try that and report back on 
 it, because it 

Re: Save as on Pages

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Hi Francisco,

when you are doing a save as navigate side ways until you find a check box 
called save as just check it and the next tab will give you the list of what 
you want to save as, like .rtf or txt or .doc. If you set up to set as .doc by 
default, when you check the box automatically will save as a doc format.
Hope this helps.
Rachel.
On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Francisco Salvador Crespo wrote:

 Hi,
 
 My question of today is: how can i shave a Pages document as a Word document?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Francisco
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
I often wondered how to cut a file from one folder and paste  it to another. 
But command option v is not working for me.
Any ideas why?
Thanks in advance.
Rachel

On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I think you meant Command V and command option V
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:
 
 On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Traci wrote:
 
 I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my script 
 is already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out how to 
 move it.
 
 find your script, then use command-c to copy and then go where you want to 
 put it and use command option p to move it.  A regular command p would just 
 copy it without removing the original.
 
 HTH,
 Geoff.
 
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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Rachel!
Well if your running Snowy Kitty that option/command/v will not work!
So you'll have to do it the hard way!
Copy then paste then go back to the original and delete!
If your running Lion then I'm stuck!
And someone using Lion will hopefully help!
Colin

On 8 Sep 2011, at 02:03, Rachel magario wrote:

 I often wondered how to cut a file from one folder and paste  it to another. 
 But command option v is not working for me.
 Any ideas why?
 Thanks in advance.
 Rachel
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think you meant Command V and command option V
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:
 
 On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Traci wrote:
 
 I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my 
 script is already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out 
 how to move it.
 
 find your script, then use command-c to copy and then go where you want to 
 put it and use command option p to move it.  A regular command p would just 
 copy it without removing the original.
 
 HTH,
 Geoff.
 
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Re: -- SPAM --Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Eric Caron

Hi Rachel, 

This support list is really a big part of why I love using my Mac.  I 
have become a much more productive user because of the help of many people 
here.  I've even made some great off list connections. 

Your tips here are a good addition to what people have offered.  I've 
saved many of these messages in a special VM mail box.  I think I will follow 
your example and eventually start over with a new installation.  I'm going to 
get a 64 bit version of Windows 7 and see if I notice a difference in 
performance. 

Your comment about short cuts is helpful.  I've saved a  a description 
from Paul on how to use VM Fusion to change keys but I must admit it seemed 
like a real challenge. 

VM Fusion seems like it should be so easy but it is pretty complicated.  I 
suspect these threads will be helpful to many listers.

By the way Parallels is known for not being accessible to blind users.  I'm 
amazed you had success at all. 

Welcome to the list! 

Eric Caron 

On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Rachel magario wrote:

 Hi Eric, I am new in the list and I see you got lots of tips already. But for 
 me, I just had to delete all my virtual machines, reinstall from scratch and 
 configured my setting only after I had the full license of jaws running. And 
 insure my fusion had the vmware tools installed and running. 
 I also have full sharing setting between both systems. Every thing works well 
 now. But I also made a shortcut to start jaws in case something goes wrong.
 My only big trouble is the keyboard, because a lot of my jaws short cuts 
 conflicts with some of my mac ones. I hardly use jaws any more though.
 It was a freedom support person who helped me decided to finally switch to a 
 MAC, but unfortunately every time I have called after, they always tell me 
 jaws does not work in the virtual machine, since first I had parallels and I 
 had lots of issues until I switch to fusion. It does work well for the most 
 part.
 Hope this can be of help
 
 Cheers,
 Rachel
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:06 PM, David McLean wrote:
 
 I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare.  I didn't tell them I 
 was running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Why didn't he approve?  Why would FS even care.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my 
 activation.  I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion 
 and as soon as the representative heard that he said he would not support 
 me by giving me a new activation unless I wanted it for a native windows 
 PC.  This year I went to Site Village (an exhibition for all access 
 Technology) and Eric Damerie was there and I told him that I was running 
 Jaws on a Mac and he simply did not approve.
 
 Kawal.
 ___
 Kawal Gucukoglu
 (E-mail/MSN):
 kawa...@me.com
 
 (Skype ID):
 
 kawalgucukoglu
 
 (Mobile/text):
 
 +447905618396
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
   Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two 
 years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when 
 working on a unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and 
 I would love it.  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and 
 before I knew it the rep was asking me questions as she said she loved 
 her iPhone and was considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for 
 help with my work PC and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not 
 starting in my VM and told him I didn't expect him to answer that 
 question as it was not supported.  In fact, he gave me a good idea to try 
 and seemed familiar with the Mac.  The Mac seems to, in my experience, be 
 becoming popular with at least some of these reps.  It really was one of 
 these reps that was the final straw resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  
 I've never looked back!
 
 In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in 
 all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready 
 knowledgeable about the Mac or curious about them.
 
 
 Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am 
 convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be 
 better then my experience on a native PC. 
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you 
 were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same 
 problem as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, 
 don't hold 

Re: -- SPAM --Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Exactly,

Lol.

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Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
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On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:06 PM, David McLean wrote:

 I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare.  I didn't tell them I was 
 running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Why didn't he approve?  Why would FS even care.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my 
 activation.  I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion and 
 as soon as the representative heard that he said he would not support me by 
 giving me a new activation unless I wanted it for a native windows PC.  
 This year I went to Site Village (an exhibition for all access Technology) 
 and Eric Damerie was there and I told him that I was running Jaws on a Mac 
 and he simply did not approve.
 
 Kawal.
 ___
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 (E-mail/MSN):
 kawa...@me.com
 
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 +447905618396
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two 
 years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when 
 working on a unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and I 
 would love it.  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and 
 before I knew it the rep was asking me questions as she said she loved her 
 iPhone and was considering getting a Mac.  Most recently I called for help 
 with my work PC and Jaws.  I mentioned my problem with Jaws not starting 
 in my VM and told him I didn't expect him to answer that question as it 
 was not supported.  In fact, he gave me a good idea to try and seemed 
 familiar with the Mac.  The Mac seems to, in my experience, be becoming 
 popular with at least some of these reps.  It really was one of these reps 
 that was the final straw resulting in my purchase of my Mac.  I've never 
 looked back!
 
 In all fairness I was dealing with real JAWS issues when I called, but in 
 all these cases the reps were supportive and either all ready 
 knowledgeable about the Mac or curious about them.
 
 
 Even though I don't have all the bugs worked out of my VM yet I am 
 convinced that the over all experience with Windows on my Mac will be 
 better then my experience on a native PC. 
 
 Eric Caron 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 Bood job you did not tell the Freedom Scientific representative that you 
 were planning to install Jaws on a Mac as they do not support this.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 12:57 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Last week, a friend of mine bumped into someone who had the same problem 
 as you seem to experience, in that settings you make in jaws, don't hold 
 from shutdown to next run of jaws. And it is now resolved. We, that is 
 my friend and his friend, and I, have all been looking into the problem. 
 We have checked the permissions on the mac hd volume. We have checked 
 inside windows, to see if somewhere in documents and settings, where 
 jaws stores its configuration data, a rights problem was sitting. Why, 
 would jaws, on other systems, retain its settings, while on the vm it 
 would not. We were starting to think that this was a fusion problem. 
 Even one of the Belgian freedom scientific workers helped debugging the 
 problem one entire afternoon, but no luck. Until my friend's friend, 
 came up with the solution, found by accident.
 
 What you need to do, and this as worked for 2 people already that I know 
 of, is that you reset jaws to its factory default, thereby destroying 
 all your user settings. But, when you reconfigure jaws afterwards, you 
 may find that from then on, jaws will remember its settings. Albeit 
 spelling, autostart, and whatever. Please try that and report back on 
 it, because it seems that this is a nasty jaws bug, but so difficult to 
 trace. To be clear, my friend's friend encountered this same problem on 
 a native windows pc. He passed it on, and now it works for my friend as 
 well. 
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal and Paul,
 
 thanks for this added info.
 
 My imported Boot Camp partition seemed to be working ok until I deleted 
 the real Boot Camp.  now each time I start the virtual machine I get a 
 strange message that says something like can not connect file 
 User/ecaron/library/application support/VM Fusion/Vertual 
 machine/BootCamp/ Boot Camp.vvmwarevm//auto Detect as a CD rOM image 
 Can not find the file. Vertual Device IDE 1 will start disconnected.  I 
 then press OK and things seem to work all right.  this error message 
 made me concerned so I decided to 

Re: This has brought up library questions

2011-09-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Traci,

I'm surprised you can even see the library folder in your home folder.  Its 
hidden in Lion.  You are using Lion right?

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On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Traci wrote:

 Ok, so I've overcome the downloading and installing my simple battery script, 
 however this has now brought up library questions for me.
  
 Do I always want to put items in the hd library instead of the home library?  
 For example, I plan on adding custom system sounds.  Would I put these inside 
 the sounds folder of the hd library, not the home library?
  
 Why are there two?  A bit confusing.  :)
  
 Thank you,
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Changing the sort of email messages in Snow Leopard

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello everyone. I just switched over to Mac Mail in preparation to update to 
Lion. By default the email is sorted with the oldest email at the top. I want 
it sorted so that the newest items are on top. I checked the help which told me 
to click on the header. Although Voiceover reads the headings, I can't get to 
them to click them. I looked in the view menu. I can decide what column to sort 
on but don't know how to change the sort order. Any help is very much 
appreciated.

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Re: downloading running scripts

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Thanks Colin,

I am guessing Snowy Kitty is snow leopard, right? If that  is so, I am using 
Snowy Kitty! The hard way will have to be then! :) 
Thanks for letting me know. I was starting to doubt my abilities to figure 
things out! ;)
Cheers,
Rachel
On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

 Hi Rachel!
 Well if your running Snowy Kitty that option/command/v will not work!
 So you'll have to do it the hard way!
 Copy then paste then go back to the original and delete!
 If your running Lion then I'm stuck!
 And someone using Lion will hopefully help!
 Colin
 
 On 8 Sep 2011, at 02:03, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 I often wondered how to cut a file from one folder and paste  it to another. 
 But command option v is not working for me.
 Any ideas why?
 Thanks in advance.
 Rachel
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think you meant Command V and command option V
 
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 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:
 
 On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Traci wrote:
 
 I've figured out how to open the library folder under the hd, but my 
 script is already inside the other library folder.  I cannot figure out 
 how to move it.
 
 find your script, then use command-c to copy and then go where you want to 
 put it and use command option p to move it.  A regular command p would 
 just copy it without removing the original.
 
 HTH,
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Re: -- SPAM --Re: Does VM Fusion work with JAWS?

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Eric, thanks for the welcome! I have been using Mac for a while and very much 
discovering things on my own. I used to follow a list called I can work this 
thing when I bought my first mac. But I sold it 3 months after I bought since I 
could not get to far. Last year  in my last job mac was the only computers 
around, so I had to learn! :) I am really glad I found this list and it is so 
active and the people really nice.
About changing keys: I am not sure what Paul said, since I did not find the 
post. But I just used sharp keys a small software for windows that let you map 
your key board as you like and it is pretty easy and straightforward. I was 
afradi it was not going to work with windows 7 since it is an old program, but 
it works just fine. Installit on your windows side and then just open and you 
will have 2 areas one for the key you have and what you want that key to be.
For example my right option key is my incert key in my windows side. Let me 
know if you want to know more about, I'll make a email just for that.
With this program  I also created my application key that helps me to right 
click on things when I am in windows. Therefore creating a shortcut to open 
jaws was very easy, just go to your programs, find jaws, right click  or press 
the application key then click on properties and make your shortcut to open 
jaws.
Thanks again,
Rachel
On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

 
 Hi Rachel, 
 
   This support list is really a big part of why I love using my Mac.  I 
 have become a much more productive user because of the help of many people 
 here.  I've even made some great off list connections. 
 
   Your tips here are a good addition to what people have offered.  I've 
 saved many of these messages in a special VM mail box.  I think I will follow 
 your example and eventually start over with a new installation.  I'm going to 
 get a 64 bit version of Windows 7 and see if I notice a difference in 
 performance. 
 
   Your comment about short cuts is helpful.  I've saved a  a description 
 from Paul on how to use VM Fusion to change keys but I must admit it seemed 
 like a real challenge. 
 
 VM Fusion seems like it should be so easy but it is pretty complicated.  I 
 suspect these threads will be helpful to many listers.
 
 By the way Parallels is known for not being accessible to blind users.  I'm 
 amazed you had success at all. 
 
 Welcome to the list! 
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 Hi Eric, I am new in the list and I see you got lots of tips already. But 
 for me, I just had to delete all my virtual machines, reinstall from scratch 
 and configured my setting only after I had the full license of jaws running. 
 And insure my fusion had the vmware tools installed and running. 
 I also have full sharing setting between both systems. Every thing works 
 well now. But I also made a shortcut to start jaws in case something goes 
 wrong.
 My only big trouble is the keyboard, because a lot of my jaws short cuts 
 conflicts with some of my mac ones. I hardly use jaws any more though.
 It was a freedom support person who helped me decided to finally switch to a 
 MAC, but unfortunately every time I have called after, they always tell me 
 jaws does not work in the virtual machine, since first I had parallels and I 
 had lots of issues until I switch to fusion. It does work well for the most 
 part.
 Hope this can be of help
 
 Cheers,
 Rachel
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:06 PM, David McLean wrote:
 
 I've had FS give me more activations to run VMWare.  I didn't tell them I 
 was running it on a Mac however, none of their business anyway.
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Why didn't he approve?  Why would FS even care.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
 I rang up Freedom Scientific last year as I wanted a reset of my 
 activation.  I told them that I was running Jaws on my Mac under Fusion 
 and as soon as the representative heard that he said he would not support 
 me by giving me a new activation unless I wanted it for a native windows 
 PC.  This year I went to Site Village (an exhibition for all access 
 Technology) and Eric Damerie was there and I told him that I was running 
 Jaws on a Mac and he simply did not approve.
 
 Kawal.
 ___
 Kawal Gucukoglu
 (E-mail/MSN):
 kawa...@me.com
 
 (Skype ID):
 
 kawalgucukoglu
 
 (Mobile/text):
 
 +447905618396
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Sep 2011, at 21:20, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
  Freedom Scientific would not be happy to hear this but at least three 
 of the tech reps I talked to were very supportive of my Mac use.  Two 
 years ago I was uncertain about buying a mac and mentioned that when 
 working on a unrelated JAWS problem.  The Rep told me to get the Mac and 
 I would love it.  He was correct!  The other day I had another issue and 
 before I knew it the rep 

Looking for a good task reminder program

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi, guys. My wife is looking for a good task program like the one in outlook 
under windows. Does the mac have anything comparable?
Thanks.

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Re: Looking for an accessible audio converter

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Thanks. I did download Max, but had to make sure I had the latest stable 
version.
Too bad Amadeus costs so much just to have the batch conversion feature.

On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Paul Henrichsen,
 Amadeus costs. Max is free. Max, however, is a cd ripper in the first place, 
 but it can convert audio as well. It's very accessible.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 6, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
 
 Hi. I was looking for the audio converter called Max in the app store, but I 
 don't see it there.
 Is this the one which sells for $60 or is Amadeus the one which sells for 
 $60. I know that one does, but I can't tell from the below message if he is 
 talking about Max or Amadeus when he talks about the $60 and a trial version.
 I downloaded Max from their site making sure I had the stable version.
 Thanks.
 
 On Sep 5, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Paul Henrichsen,
 As I think it was Eric Caron pointed out, max could be a good choice. Max 
 is free.
 On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
 
 Hi, Esther. I thought of Amadeus pro, but $60 is a bit more than I want to 
 pay since I am just converting files; not editing them.
 Will Max allow batch conversion?
 Thanks.
 
 On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 
 If you're looking for simple conversion of ogg to mp3 on the Mac, Erik's 
 suggestion of Max will probably work for you:
 http://sbooth.org/Max/
 Max is donationware.  But Eric Caron is correct that Amadeus Pro or its 
 Lite version has a powerful batch processor that will also handle many 
 functions besides simple conversions (e.g., fades, adding/trimming 
 silence, conversion of sound quality, normalization, and lots more). This 
 shareware audio editing program had a recent major upgrade, so the price 
 is now $60.  If you want to try the trial version, just Google the name 
 together with macupdate, which will give you the link to the program and 
 the web site.  (It's also sold on the Mac App Store, but trial downloads 
 are not supported in the App Store).  The Blind Cool Tech podcast on 
 batch processing with Amadeus Pro is Dane's podcast from two years 
 earlier. 
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Aug 30, 2011, at 03:51, Eric Caron wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 
  It is not free but Amadeus Pro or Amadeus Pro lite does a great job 
 with conversions and also is a nice audio editor.  it is at the app 
 store.  
 
  You can do single or batch conversions.  There is even a tutorial on 
 Blindcool tech on doing large numbers of conversions with Amadeus Pro. 
 
 eRic Caron
 On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:08 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
 
 Hi. I'm looking for an accessible audio converter. I need to convert 
 ogg files into mp3 files. I have tunesify, but I find it less than 
 intuitive to use.
 For some reason, even though I have selected the folder with its 
 subfolders, it doesn't seem to want to convert the ogg files. I also 
 can't tell whether it will convert the contents of subfolders in the 
 original folder.
 Anything better out there?
 I'm use to using gold wave or the audio stripper from NCH software.
 However, I don't like the heavy-handedness of NCH when it comes to 
 reinstalling their software or putting it on more than one machine.
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Looking for a good task reminder program

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
I use the to do in the mail, or on my iPod I have something called sees the 
day. Great app.
I also use google calendar and just found a way to sink it with my ICal. But I 
cannot speak for being great yet. can give you more news when I see if it 
really works well.
RM


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FTP

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Hi guys,

What Ftp client is accessible with the mac? I would like one that I can see the 
FPT folders easily.
Thanks.
Rachel

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Re: Looking for a good task reminder program

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Henrichsen
The mail app has a to do list? Interesting. I'm particularly looking for 
programs that can run on the mac and are like the task manager in outlook I 
guess that's part of their calendaring system along with the mail part of 
outlook.

On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Rachel magario wrote:

 I use the to do in the mail, or on my iPod I have something called sees the 
 day. Great app.
 I also use google calendar and just found a way to sink it with my ICal. But 
 I cannot speak for being great yet. can give you more news when I see if it 
 really works well.
 RM
 
 
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multilingual use

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users.

I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my mac.
Do I just by a voice and install?
Where do I buy that voice?
Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what 
advantages is there to it.
Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document 
with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go to 
preferences to change it.
Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different 
character typing?
Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how to 
go about installing voices.
ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also 
complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it on 
the fly?

Thank you in advance for any help!
Rachel

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Re: Looking for a good task reminder program

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Not sure if it is the same. But it does. command option y I believe opens a new 
to do. then just enter the info and it goes to your calendar in ICal.
You cannot get to fancy with it, but when I used it it worked ok.
I am using more and more though my google calendar and I sink my Iphone 
calendar with my google one so no matter, when I enter the info, it is always 
available in both sides.
Sorry I could not be more helpful.
Rachel

On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:

 The mail app has a to do list? Interesting. I'm particularly looking for 
 programs that can run on the mac and are like the task manager in outlook I 
 guess that's part of their calendaring system along with the mail part of 
 outlook.
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 I use the to do in the mail, or on my iPod I have something called sees the 
 day. Great app.
 I also use google calendar and just found a way to sink it with my ICal. But 
 I cannot speak for being great yet. can give you more news when I see if it 
 really works well.
 RM
 
 
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 outlook under windows. Does the mac have anything comparable?
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