Re: yosemite strangeness
Doesn't command option up arrow get you to the top of the messages list? It does for me in standard view. Lisette On 8/06/2015, at 1:56 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Now if only option+up-arrow worked for going to the beginning of the messages list—Or rather, the top. On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote: Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to navigate between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply use TAB and SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite when in classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard pane in System Preferences, selected the Shortcuts tab, and enabled full keyboard access. Grant On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:24 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite. However, the strangest thing is stopping me. I've observed it on 3 machines at various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing. Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, which I prefer. It doesn't seem to happen in classic layout. In Mavericks, the mailboxes list, which I use quite frequently, is just a couple of items off to the left of the messages column view once you stop interacting with the messages column. However, in Yosemite, it's a good 4 or so items to the right. Visually, it seems it hasn't changed at all, but voiceover seems to think moving to the right is now a good way to get to the mailboxes list, even though visually it's still off to the left. This is enough to drive me batty, and the only thing really stopping me from upgrading. Is there a workaround for this incredibly odd behavior? I can probably learn to live with it, and I know I could do voiceover command T to jump to the table, but that's kind of an awkward keystroke on a laptop, for me personally. Thanks in advance for any insights into this. DFTBA! John D. Lipsey mail: johnl1...@gmail.com Twitter: @J_TGL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trillian
What are you talking about? It still lets me know who signed in and out. I use Growl for that. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 7, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: And it doesn’t do the thing Skype used to do where it tells if some one is online or anything, just letting you all know. But the interface is mostly accessible. On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it is a cross-platform chatting solution. I have only found it to be accessible mainly on the Mac with OS X. Actually, come to think of it, it seems like I did try it once on iOS, and over there it worked as well. I've not tried on android though. On the windows side of things, don't even attempt! It is Absolutely atrocious! Thanks. Chris. Send with aqua mail for android. On June 6, 2015 2:01:40 PM RACHEL DAMIEN damiens.hone...@gmail.com wrote: wow havent heard of that app. what does it do? is it just for Facebook? On 6 Jun 2015, at 17:42, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I've always been a really really huge fan of Trillian on the mac. Glad you got it working. Chris. - Original Message - From: jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: trillian Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
i already tried that. nothing happens. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:25 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Try option-f12 or fn-option-f12 depending on your keyboard settings in System Preferences. On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail
By turning this off, what is different? I just use VO j and interact with the message and VO j to get back to messages table. Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net On Jun 7, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Anne, thank you very much. It was a little tricky but I got it. thanks again Frank On Jun 7, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Frank, To turn off the preview pane in Mail, first set Mail to Classic view in the Viewing pane in Mail preferences. Close Preferences and navigate to the Messages table. Turn off the TrackPad commander and Quick Nav. Press VO-Down Arrow to be on the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5. Press down on the trackpad with one finger and drag another finger down the trackpad towards you. You should now have dragged the horizontal splitter to the bottom of the window so there should be nothing below it. Sometimes it takes several attempts to get this right. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jun 2015, at 04:04, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Hi all, can anyone remind me of how to turn off the preview pane in Mac mail? This is what I have tried without success: Find the splitter between the messages table and preview pane and interact with it lower it to zero move the pointer to it with VO COMMAND F5 tap the mouse pad any help would be appreciated thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adding email mailbox to favorite list
Hi, Haven't done it in a while, but, if I recall correctly, it worked using the V( drag and drop feature of VO-comma to grab then VO-period to release. If that doesn't work for you, try the old fashioned VO Drag Drop with VO-cmd-shift-space and the same combination to drop. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:32, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way for a VO user to add a mailbox to favorites so it can have a number like command 4, and so on? I see my sighted husband adding them in no time but cannot figure out how to do it myself. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
this was strange now i don't have to press fn on my keyboard. i don't know what happen. I decided not to shut down my laptop yesterday to improve the speech on my computer but now this what happen. Ussually i press option fn + f11 or f12 now i only have to press option f12 or f11. the function key on my keyboard are not yet open so i want to use the function key i have to press the fn key. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:47 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, As mentioned, option-f12 or option-fn-f12 but it will also work with f11 or f10. If none of those work, try restarting your Mac. If that still doesn't fix it, go into the Keyboard System Prefs, in the Shortcuts tab and make sure you haven't assigned something else to the f12 key. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i already tried that. nothing happens. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:25 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Try option-f12 or fn-option-f12 depending on your keyboard settings in System Preferences. On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
Try option-f12 or fn-option-f12 depending on your keyboard settings in System Preferences. On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trillian
It is. On 7 Jun 2015, at 15:34, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote: Is Trillian available from the Mac app Store? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 7 Jun 2015, at 10:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: yosemite strangeness
For me also. As of this version anyhow. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Jun 7, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't command option up arrow get you to the top of the messages list? It does for me in standard view. Lisette On 8/06/2015, at 1:56 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: Now if only option+up-arrow worked for going to the beginning of the messages list—Or rather, the top. On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote: Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to navigate between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply use TAB and SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite when in classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard pane in System Preferences, selected the Shortcuts tab, and enabled full keyboard access. Grant On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:24 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite. However, the strangest thing is stopping me. I've observed it on 3 machines at various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing. Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, which I prefer. It doesn't seem to happen in classic layout. In Mavericks, the mailboxes list, which I use quite frequently, is just a couple of items off to the left of the messages column view once you stop interacting with the messages column. However, in Yosemite, it's a good 4 or so items to the right. Visually, it seems it hasn't changed at all, but voiceover seems to think moving to the right is now a good way to get to the mailboxes list, even though visually it's still off to the left. This is enough to drive me batty, and the only thing really stopping me from upgrading. Is there a workaround for this incredibly odd behavior? I can probably learn to live with it, and I know I could do voiceover command T to jump to the table, but that's kind of an awkward keystroke on a laptop, for me personally. Thanks in advance for any insights into this. DFTBA! John D. Lipsey mail: johnl1...@gmail.com Twitter: @J_TGL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
Hi, If you prefer it the old way, there's a checkbox in the Keyboard Preferences to toggle this on and off. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:57, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: this was strange now i don't have to press fn on my keyboard. i don't know what happen. I decided not to shut down my laptop yesterday to improve the speech on my computer but now this what happen. Ussually i press option fn + f11 or f12 now i only have to press option f12 or f11. the function key on my keyboard are not yet open so i want to use the function key i have to press the fn key. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:47 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, As mentioned, option-f12 or option-fn-f12 but it will also work with f11 or f10. If none of those work, try restarting your Mac. If that still doesn't fix it, go into the Keyboard System Prefs, in the Shortcuts tab and make sure you haven't assigned something else to the f12 key. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i already tried that. nothing happens. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:25 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Try option-f12 or fn-option-f12 depending on your keyboard settings in System Preferences. On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail
Anne, thank you very much. It was a little tricky but I got it. thanks again Frank On Jun 7, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Frank, To turn off the preview pane in Mail, first set Mail to Classic view in the Viewing pane in Mail preferences. Close Preferences and navigate to the Messages table. Turn off the TrackPad commander and Quick Nav. Press VO-Down Arrow to be on the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5. Press down on the trackpad with one finger and drag another finger down the trackpad towards you. You should now have dragged the horizontal splitter to the bottom of the window so there should be nothing below it. Sometimes it takes several attempts to get this right. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jun 2015, at 04:04, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Hi all, can anyone remind me of how to turn off the preview pane in Mac mail? This is what I have tried without success: Find the splitter between the messages table and preview pane and interact with it lower it to zero move the pointer to it with VO COMMAND F5 tap the mouse pad any help would be appreciated thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Adding email mailbox to favorite list
Is there a way for a VO user to add a mailbox to favorites so it can have a number like command 4, and so on? I see my sighted husband adding them in no time but cannot figure out how to do it myself. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
Hi, As mentioned, option-f12 or option-fn-f12 but it will also work with f11 or f10. If none of those work, try restarting your Mac. If that still doesn't fix it, go into the Keyboard System Prefs, in the Shortcuts tab and make sure you haven't assigned something else to the f12 key. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i already tried that. nothing happens. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:25 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Try option-f12 or fn-option-f12 depending on your keyboard settings in System Preferences. On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail
The difference is when it is on like you have it if a virous is activeated by just opening the email it is open with preview open and if preview is closed and you see a email in the list and you highlite it it is not open to you open it where if you highlite it with preview open it is opened and you have the chance of a virous -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 13:51 To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail By turning this off, what is different? I just use VO j and interact with the message and VO j to get back to messages table. Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net On Jun 7, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Anne, thank you very much. It was a little tricky but I got it. thanks again Frank On Jun 7, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Frank, To turn off the preview pane in Mail, first set Mail to Classic view in the Viewing pane in Mail preferences. Close Preferences and navigate to the Messages table. Turn off the TrackPad commander and Quick Nav. Press VO-Down Arrow to be on the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5. Press down on the trackpad with one finger and drag another finger down the trackpad towards you. You should now have dragged the horizontal splitter to the bottom of the window so there should be nothing below it. Sometimes it takes several attempts to get this right. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jun 2015, at 04:04, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Hi all, can anyone remind me of how to turn off the preview pane in Mac mail? This is what I have tried without success: Find the splitter between the messages table and preview pane and interact with it lower it to zero move the pointer to it with VO COMMAND F5 tap the mouse pad any help would be appreciated thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily
Sounds to me more like Facebook have simply stopped working on it, so that any API change in the Messenger section will break it. On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote: I did some research into this, and Facebook did in fact announce that XMPP has been deprecated. However, the cut-off date given is April 30, 2015. We are now well into June and Facebook Chat via XMPP appears to be working just fine at my end, so it is difficult to say what the situation may be. Source: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/chat https://developers.facebook.com/docs/chat Grant On Jun 6, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com mailto:d.pra...@me.com wrote: So it still works? I thought Facebook, in their infinite wisdom, had discontinued their xmpp service. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, You must use the proper FaceBook Jabber username. This is different than your regular FaceBook login. this Jabber username usually does something with your name and adds a number to it. So, for example, mine may turn out to Tim.Kilburn.5 even though I login to FaceBook with an eMail address. If you’ve linked your FaceBook account with the other sharing features on your Mac, you’ll see that FaceBook Jabber info in your Contacts card in the Contacts app right by the IM field. Twitter and other linked social media accounts are also shown there. All set up and it works fine for me. HTH. Later... . Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 5, 2015, at 03:59, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Adding the info from Facebook and picking the jabber account worked for me in the messages app on my i mac.. Seems like this is finicky, just like just about everything else! Cait On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:09 AM, Rachel damiens.hone...@gmail.com mailto:damiens.hone...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it did the same to me when i tried Sent from my iPhone On 5 Jun 2015, at 6:56 am, kliphzkor...@icloud.com mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote: Everytime I inter the info per the instructions, it says I need a jabar account and password, that the ones I inter are not correct. Oh well, it was a nice thought. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily Yes, but it has been deprecated. On 6/4/2015 4:04 PM, Traci wrote: Is this the same as Facebook chat that people were looking for? Interesting article. Tips Tricks http://osxdaily.com/category/tips-tricks/ Mac OS X http://osxdaily.com/category/mac-os-x/ iPhone http://osxdaily.com/category/iphone/ iPad http://osxdaily.com/category/ipad/ News http://osxdaily.com/category/news/ http://osxdaily.com/ April 25, 2015 ↔ 13 comments http://osxdaily.com/ How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App http://osxdaily.com/ Paul Horowitz http://osxdaily.com/ http://osxdaily.com/ Share Tweet + 1 Mail http://osxdaily.com/ Facebook Messenger is a popular means of communicating, but the Mac doesn’t have a dedicated Facebook messaging app like the iPhone or Android does… or does it!?! Indeed, you can use Facebook Messenger to message friends from OS X, and in moments you can set up the Mac Messages app to function as a Facebook Messenger client in OS X. http://osxdaily.com/ Using Facebook Messenger from the Mac is really quite simple, but it’s entirely separate from configuring Facebook sharing from the Mac, so if you have done one but not the other, you’d need to complete both to have the full Facebook functions of sharing, posting, and messaging available to you in OS X. http://osxdaily.com/ How to Add Facebook Messenger to Messages in OS X http://osxdaily.com/ This basically turns your Messages app into a full fledged Mac Facebook Messenger client, you’ll be set up in just a few seconds with these instructions: http://osxdaily.com/ Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet http://osxdaily.com/ http://osxdaily.com/ Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…” http://osxdaily.com/ http://osxdaily.com/ From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click on “Continue” http://osxdaily.com/ http://osxdaily.com/ Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list http://osxdaily.com/ In “Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows: yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (a Facebook username is whatever your Facebook profile URL is, for example:
Re: trillian
It is. On Jun 7, 2015, at 9:34 AM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote: Is Trillian available from the Mac app Store? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 7 Jun 2015, at 10:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com mailto:greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trillian
Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail
Hello Frank, To turn off the preview pane in Mail, first set Mail to Classic view in the Viewing pane in Mail preferences. Close Preferences and navigate to the Messages table. Turn off the TrackPad commander and Quick Nav. Press VO-Down Arrow to be on the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5. Press down on the trackpad with one finger and drag another finger down the trackpad towards you. You should now have dragged the horizontal splitter to the bottom of the window so there should be nothing below it. Sometimes it takes several attempts to get this right. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jun 2015, at 04:04, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Hi all, can anyone remind me of how to turn off the preview pane in Mac mail? This is what I have tried without success: Find the splitter between the messages table and preview pane and interact with it lower it to zero move the pointer to it with VO COMMAND F5 tap the mouse pad any help would be appreciated thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mud clients was Re: this needs to be mulled over seriously
Well, if you know so much about A.I. and such, why not craft a MUD client for those that play those games? Lol sorry to be off-topic, but my gosh we have all these programmers on list, and no MUD client that works well with 10.10 and doesn’t crash every 30 minutes or so. On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Devon for seeing past some kind of weird polemic some people in this mailing list are stuck on. I was just raising a tech question, issue, debate, whatever. But it seems not everyone is a computer science student or someone working everyday, including with apple (I won’t say more) on making the user experience better. Doesn’t matter, I’m not here to fight anyone. Just to point out a few things here and there. Like you said, this is not 1984. And if you think you got privacy, you’re fooling yourself, as there is a lot of information one can get on your computer. Apple has made and gone through tremendous efforts to make this information not accessible from third parties. And I commend that. But to altogether not do anything with your data just for the purpose of making your experience better is a mistake. Nothing else. And as a loyal apple customer, I’m also allowed to say such and such sub element of the mac os is crap. This is called democracy. Anyway, off to learning more A.I for my own projects. On 7/06/2015, at 1:13 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: I also think that if Apple, and Facebook and Google alike, collected ifno about accessibility, like what user likes what way of navigating, what device they use to navigate, like touch screen during the night, keyboard during the day, keyboard for typing in passwords and longer texts, then perhaps the whole user experience of accessibility could be tons better. I mean, Google and facebook collect info, tons of it. So why not this? And I agree that Apple should collect some user data. Enough to let them know what users want. This isn't 1980 Tim Cook. Users now have a loud, demanding voice and want to be heard. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:30 AM, Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Again, y’all didn’t even get the essence of the concern. the concern is about apple adopting a technology or Artificial intelligence technique that other tech companies are adopting which will surpass what any of you can imagine. I can say this, being at the uni’s computer labs with other peers working and studying on artificial intelligence. You only see the crap google and facebook are trying to do to monetise their shit. The difference here, the nuance you were basically not able to catch, is that Mister Timmy, on the basis of privacy legalese, has not saught out to adopt deep learning, which requires data collection. If he went “we’re making sure your data is safe, and granularly reflect on which data should be anonimised but kept for the purpose of making your experience richer” then I wouldn’t be concerned. I am because he flatly went against any of these technologies. Hence the concern. man, some y’all are purely and simply blinded by all the hardware you buy and living only apple everyday of your lives. On 6/06/2015, at 11:12 am, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I do not know if many people, with brains that cannot comprehend legalese, will take the time to read terms of service and user agreements every time they are updated, if in fact they read them at all. I have no clue if Apple has me on the receiving end of anything but the great produicts I own. I do not get gobs of spam that I need to opt out of like one company whose cable services I no longer use but they cannot take no for an answer, so now and them I must opt out yet again or continue to get bucket loads of offers eqch month. Now that Paypal has split off from eBay as of July 1st, what I saw of their new terms could be of great concern. In a nutshell, they state that if you do not agree to accept bucket loads of spam via texts and robocalls, feel free to close your Paypal account. The virtual universe we live in is a wide open environment. Danger lurks in every nanobyte. That said, of anyone is unhappy with Apple, or any other company, they have a simple fix. Send everything to Davy Jone's Locker. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. On 6/5/2015 5:03 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Hang on a minute. You’re concerned about Apple’s continued business viability in spite of overwhelming evidence of their success, because unlike those guys over at Facebook and Google, they don’t make gobs of money by harvesting user data for free services, and your explaining your justifications by way of sources quoted by Business Insider? Just so there’s some sort of accessibility-related edge to
Re: trillian
You know, I'm not honestly sure. I think it is, but don't quote me. Chris. - Original Message - From: sadam ahmed To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:34 AM Subject: Re: trillian Is Trillian available from the Mac app Store? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 7 Jun 2015, at 10:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: yosemite strangeness
Now if only option+up-arrow worked for going to the beginning of the messages list—Or rather, the top. On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote: Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to navigate between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply use TAB and SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite when in classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard pane in System Preferences, selected the Shortcuts tab, and enabled full keyboard access. Grant On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:24 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite. However, the strangest thing is stopping me. I've observed it on 3 machines at various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing. Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, which I prefer. It doesn't seem to happen in classic layout. In Mavericks, the mailboxes list, which I use quite frequently, is just a couple of items off to the left of the messages column view once you stop interacting with the messages column. However, in Yosemite, it's a good 4 or so items to the right. Visually, it seems it hasn't changed at all, but voiceover seems to think moving to the right is now a good way to get to the mailboxes list, even though visually it's still off to the left. This is enough to drive me batty, and the only thing really stopping me from upgrading. Is there a workaround for this incredibly odd behavior? I can probably learn to live with it, and I know I could do voiceover command T to jump to the table, but that's kind of an awkward keystroke on a laptop, for me personally. Thanks in advance for any insights into this. DFTBA! John D. Lipsey mail: johnl1...@gmail.com Twitter: @J_TGL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trillian
Is Trillian available from the Mac app Store? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 7 Jun 2015, at 10:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trillian
Thanks for the confirmation Devin. Have just downloaded it. Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 8 Jun 2015, at 12:41 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote: It is. On Jun 7, 2015, at 9:34 AM, sadam ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote: Is Trillian available from the Mac app Store? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 7 Jun 2015, at 10:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com mailto:greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
Re: trillian
Managed to find it in the Store. I’ll have a play with it later. Have you used Trillian on iOS Chris? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 8 Jun 2015, at 12:38 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I'm not honestly sure. I think it is, but don't quote me. Chris. - Original Message - From: sadam ahmed mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:34 AM Subject: Re: trillian Is Trillian available from the Mac app Store? Sadam Ahmed Certificate IV in International Trade Vocational College of Business RMIT University LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/ Sent using OS X Mail On 7 Jun 2015, at 10:53 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Shawn, Honestly, that would be exactly what I'd use it for. I wouldn't want it for my entire news feed/notifications/comments on posts. I'll just use the mobile site for that, or the mobile app. For messenger though, that's actually perfect! I might look at it again. I'll just have to see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: trillian Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com mailto:greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries
Re: trillian
And it doesn’t do the thing Skype used to do where it tells if some one is online or anything, just letting you all know. But the interface is mostly accessible. On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it is a cross-platform chatting solution. I have only found it to be accessible mainly on the Mac with OS X. Actually, come to think of it, it seems like I did try it once on iOS, and over there it worked as well. I've not tried on android though. On the windows side of things, don't even attempt! It is Absolutely atrocious! Thanks. Chris. Send with aqua mail for android. On June 6, 2015 2:01:40 PM RACHEL DAMIEN damiens.hone...@gmail.com wrote: wow havent heard of that app. what does it do? is it just for Facebook? On 6 Jun 2015, at 17:42, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: I've always been a really really huge fan of Trillian on the mac. Glad you got it working. Chris. - Original Message - From: jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: trillian Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut for sound preferences
my function keys are not on standard mode, so i do have to press fn everytime, so this confused me. thanks anyways On 07 Jun 2015, at 10:41 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, If you prefer it the old way, there's a checkbox in the Keyboard Preferences to toggle this on and off. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:57, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: this was strange now i don't have to press fn on my keyboard. i don't know what happen. I decided not to shut down my laptop yesterday to improve the speech on my computer but now this what happen. Ussually i press option fn + f11 or f12 now i only have to press option f12 or f11. the function key on my keyboard are not yet open so i want to use the function key i have to press the fn key. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:47 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, As mentioned, option-f12 or option-fn-f12 but it will also work with f11 or f10. If none of those work, try restarting your Mac. If that still doesn't fix it, go into the Keyboard System Prefs, in the Shortcuts tab and make sure you haven't assigned something else to the f12 key. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 13:33, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: i already tried that. nothing happens. On 07 Jun 2015, at 9:25 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Try option-f12 or fn-option-f12 depending on your keyboard settings in System Preferences. On 7 Jun 2015, at 20:10, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: Good day to all, i don't know what happen to the keyboard shortcut to open the sound preferences on mac, can somebody tell me what was the shortcut to open it. I don't know if my mind block it or is my computer not responding at all. I use to open this everyday, but now it seems i can't open it with shortcut keys. thankskey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
Re: Favorites Bar in Mail
I posted instructions earlier about this. Skip the drag and drop method, and use the mouse down, and mouse up command. So, find the mailbox you want to add to favorites, do the mouse down command, vo, command, shift, plus space bar. Then go to the favorites bar, go to the right of where you want the mailbox in your favorites, then repeat the mouse down command only now it will be mouse up. So vo, command, shift, plus space bar. HTH Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you. Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple And ask your question there. All are welcome! On Jun 8, 2015, at 12:57 AM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. I don’t suppose Apple ever got around to fixing the issue(s) that make it impossible for us to add folders to the favorites bar, have they?Drag and drop appears not to work—am I perhaps missing something? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Favorites Bar in Mail
Greetings. I don’t suppose Apple ever got around to fixing the issue(s) that make it impossible for us to add folders to the favorites bar, have they?Drag and drop appears not to work—am I perhaps missing something? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Evernote on iOS
Is the aforementioned even usable?Launching the app on iPad seems to yield no joy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clickable items in Safari
Hello Jean, Often, clickable items are places where either a mouse hover or a mouse click will change what is shown on the page. Try bringing the mouse with VO-Cmd-F5 and doing a VO-Shift-Space type of click and see whether new items have appeared. Cheers, Anne On 8 Jun 2015, at 06:32, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All: What does it mean in Safari when an item says “clickable?” Is it a link? When I hit VO space on such items nothing happens. Can someone please explain? Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Clickable items in Safari
Hello All: What does it mean in Safari when an item says “clickable?” Is it a link? When I hit VO space on such items nothing happens. Can someone please explain? Many thanks, Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail
With the preview pane turned on when you use your arrow keys in the list of messages it marks each one of them as read. This does not happen with the preview pane turned off. Frank -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:51 PM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: turning off the preview pane in Mac mail By turning this off, what is different? I just use VO j and interact with the message and VO j to get back to messages table. Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net On Jun 7, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Anne, thank you very much. It was a little tricky but I got it. thanks again Frank On Jun 7, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Frank, To turn off the preview pane in Mail, first set Mail to Classic view in the Viewing pane in Mail preferences. Close Preferences and navigate to the Messages table. Turn off the TrackPad commander and Quick Nav. Press VO-Down Arrow to be on the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5. Press down on the trackpad with one finger and drag another finger down the trackpad towards you. You should now have dragged the horizontal splitter to the bottom of the window so there should be nothing below it. Sometimes it takes several attempts to get this right. Cheers, Anne On 7 Jun 2015, at 04:04, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com wrote: Hi all, can anyone remind me of how to turn off the preview pane in Mac mail? This is what I have tried without success: Find the splitter between the messages table and preview pane and interact with it lower it to zero move the pointer to it with VO COMMAND F5 tap the mouse pad any help would be appreciated thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: graphic design software
And the stupid question of the year is, can these be used by a total? I am guessing not, but you never know! thanks, Caitlyn On Jun 5, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Don't know if this is what you are looking for, but Pixelmator seems to be pritty popular. It's in the Mac app store. On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 4:48:40 PM UTC-5, Krysti wrote: hey everyone I was wondering what's the best software for designing graphics on the Mac doesn't have to be a free one witch one is the best -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: trillian
Hi Jeff. It seems like that aspect of Facebook is no longer supported by Trillian. In the tabs that it presents, I see no News Feeds tab. It looks like it only supports Facebook chat now. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook On Jun 6, 2015, at 11:34 AM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Maintenance Related Apps
I have the same ones you have, with the addition of adware medic. You can get that one at www.thesafemac.com http://www.thesafemac.com/ and it’s free. It scans for adware and trashes it. Cait On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:49 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: I have the following apps installed now. ClamXAV Clean My Mac Onyx While I do not favor installing too many apps to cover all possible tasks, if the above list of apps is incomplete., I would like suggestions on other apps that can round out this list. I did try Battery Health and found it problematic so its gone. Think someone mentioned Battery Monitor. My MBP does not travel but I still want to keep an eye on its battery. Any other must-have or at least useful apps in this category? Thanks. From The Believer. . . By way of the Chariots of the Gods cameth the Aliens who dwelt amongst the humans, and bringeth much knowledge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adding email mailbox to favorite list
I don't do it the drag and drop way. I do the mouse down command. So find the mail box you want to add to favorites, do the mouse down command, witch is vo keys, plus control, shift and space bar. then go to the favorites bar, go to the right of the mailbox where you want it, then repeat that command vo control shif space bar, and that is the mouse up command and it will drop it in place. HTH Transmitted from the Delta Quadrant On Jun 7, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way for a VO user to add a mailbox to favorites so it can have a number like command 4, and so on? I see my sighted husband adding them in no time but cannot figure out how to do it myself. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Adding email mailbox to favorite list
Hi, One minor correction, it should be VO-command-shift and spacebar. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 7, 2015, at 20:24, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote: I don't do it the drag and drop way. I do the mouse down command. So find the mail box you want to add to favorites, do the mouse down command, witch is vo keys, plus control, shift and space bar. then go to the favorites bar, go to the right of the mailbox where you want it, then repeat that command vo control shif space bar, and that is the mouse up command and it will drop it in place. HTH Transmitted from the Delta Quadrant On Jun 7, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Sandy Finley finleykn...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way for a VO user to add a mailbox to favorites so it can have a number like command 4, and so on? I see my sighted husband adding them in no time but cannot figure out how to do it myself. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
