Re: iTunes question.

2015-08-21 Thread Sadam Ahmed

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestions. It still seems to be in this damn loop.

Guess I'll use the Windows side of the Mac to update the iPhone to 9.0.

Sadam Ahmed

On 8/21/2015 7:08 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote:

Maybe command 1, 2 …..

Shut down iTunes with options - command + esc, browse to the table, interact, 
hit enter twice on iTunes, shut down the system dialog.

Take care

21. aug. 2015 kl. 05:30 skrev Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com:

Hi all,

Trying to get out of the slide show iTunes gives me when opening the app.

Any idea how to leave the slide show?

Pressing the close button just puts me in a loop.

Thank you.

With Best regards,

Sadam Ahmed

Blog:

Http://www.SadamAhmed.com

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Re: the anti cleaning article

2015-08-21 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
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I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn't you don't
get viruses. Even more shocking is that generally this applies to
Windows as well.

The thing with cleaners, whether or not you want to believe the
article is that it can clean up cookies (which you can do from
safari). There are things it can wipe out, but when it starts messing
with ~Libraries and other important folders, you have a chance for
things to go wrong and they sometimes do. Is it worth that risk for a
whole 3 gb?

If you know the mac, you can just do that work yourself without the
risk. Otherwise I recommend you save $40 and just consider the 3 GB a
lost cause.

Thanks,
The constantly sock-footed me.

On 8/21/2015 12:14 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 Red it, and, frankly, I don't buy it:  no pun intended.  This
 article reminded me rather too much of the crowd who stupidly and
 naively believes that Macs don't get viruses and thus don't need
 either anti virus or anti malware software.
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
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Re: google hangouts

2015-08-21 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
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Use the google hangouts site.
On 8/21/2015 1:00 AM, deedra waters wrote:
 I didn’t see anything about this on applevis but it’s also been a
 very very long day. I need an app that supports hangouts well and
 handles the group chat stuff well.I am not using an iphone so
 please  if anyone knows of an app for hangouts that is an a mac app
 not an iphone app i’d appreciate any suggestions deedra waters 
 dee...@the-brannons.com
 
 
 


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Question to Chris about link

2015-08-21 Thread gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net
Chris,

The link
http://www.installmacapps.com
that you mentioned doesn’t work
It says:
This page can’t be displayed
• Make sure the web address http://www.installmacapps.com is correct.

Would you please check the correct address? Thanks,
Rena


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Author of Dear Suzie, Rivers Of Light and Annie's Journal


From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Problem with dropbox please help

The only issue with this is, the last I remember, this method wasn't accessible.

I recall you having to go to the Dropbox.app file, vo+shift+M on it, go to view 
content, then inside there, I don't recall exactly where, but there was a shell 
script you ran, which would open Terminal in the background, run a few 
commands, then the installer window would pop up, and the rest at that point 
would be totally 100% accessible.  If you didn't use this method though, it 
wouldn't work with Voiceover.  If things have changed, please let me know.

Now, when I have to install Dropbox, I actually just do it from

http://www.installmacapps.com

So, when I run the Terminal script from there, it just automatically does it 
and sets it up, leaving me not having to fool with anything.

Chris.
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  Subject: Re: Problem with dropbox please help

  In the Finder (on your Desktop), you will find a drive named Dropbox 
Installer. When you double-click it, it will launch the installer, and you can 
click the only icon in that window to Install Dropbox. It should take less 
than a minute. When it is done, go back to the Finder and right-click on the 
Dropbox Installer. Select Eject 'Dropbox Installer' from the contextual menu 
(or select the Dropbox Installer icon and select Eject 'Dropbox Installer' 
from the File menu in the Finder. 

  Check again for the Dropbox icon in your menu bar, and for the Dropbox 
application in your Applications folder. If both exist, you have succeeded.
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Re: bugs in snow leppard?

2015-08-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

There are minor bugs in just about every OS.  Snow Leopard was actually one of 
the very stable and has very few bugs that cause you any grief.  The issue with 
Snow Leopard is that Safari can only be upgraded as 5.* which gives it 
limitations with some of the newer web apps etc.  It works great on older Macs 
but cannot be installed on any newer Macs that were originally released with 
Lion or newer.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 21, 2015, at 00:27, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:

Are there bugs in snow leppard? i have been reading on some web sites and it 
seems there are bugs where trying to use headers in safari will not work 
correct ly is this true?

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Re: amadeus pro recording and punch-in?

2015-08-21 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Phil,

Thanks for the suggestion. I know about editing fortunately and indeed, Mosen’s 
book about amadeus pro is wonderful. It helped mee as well. Thing is: the 
functionality I’m looking for, I still have not found. Do you happen to know of 
another audio editor that allows to start recording during playback, thereby 
overwriting the rest of the file after record was pressed?

Regards,
Paul.
 On 20 Aug 2015, at 16:06, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't believe there is a punch record facility and Amadeus Pro. The best 
 method I have found to handle such errors is in the editing process. When I 
 make such a mistake is that, instead of stopping and rewinding the file, I 
 simply leave a short space and then resume from where the mistake was. I then 
 go back and cut out the error. It's really quite simple to do. If you're not 
 familiar with editing and Amadeus Pro, you really should get Jonathan motions 
 audio tutorial on Amadeus. It really helped me understand how to use this 
 program.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear amadeus pro-familiar users,
 
 Project I’m working on is a short audio book, being read by a family member. 
 The problem I’m facing is this.
 
 When the reader makes a mistake, I have to stop recording, then rewind a 
 little bit, start playback so the reader can chime in at the right moment, 
 and then I need to resume recording, right from playback. Can Amadeus pro do 
 just that? In other words: when I am playing back audio, is there a 
 keystroke one can hit so that recording begins at that very moment, thereby 
 overwriting the tail of the file where the mistake was made?
 Hoping to hear back from you. Since I’m on the mac, I have not found the 
 solution to this issue yet.
 
 Kind regards,
 Paul.
 
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Re: amadeus pro recording and punch-in?

2015-08-21 Thread Phil Halton
I would imagine that ProTools has punch record capabilities. The only program 
I've ever used that had punch capability was sonar on the window side. Again 
though, I'm sure ProTools must have something equivalent if you want to spend 
that kind of money and go to that kind of learning curve. Punch recording is a 
feature found mostly in high-end applications and you're not likely to find it 
in a $60 app.

Sent from my IPhone


 On Aug 21, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 Thanks for the suggestion. I know about editing fortunately and indeed, 
 Mosen’s book about amadeus pro is wonderful. It helped mee as well. Thing is: 
 the functionality I’m looking for, I still have not found. Do you happen to 
 know of another audio editor that allows to start recording during playback, 
 thereby overwriting the rest of the file after record was pressed?
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 On 20 Aug 2015, at 16:06, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't believe there is a punch record facility and Amadeus Pro. The best 
 method I have found to handle such errors is in the editing process. When I 
 make such a mistake is that, instead of stopping and rewinding the file, I 
 simply leave a short space and then resume from where the mistake was. I 
 then go back and cut out the error. It's really quite simple to do. If 
 you're not familiar with editing and Amadeus Pro, you really should get 
 Jonathan motions audio tutorial on Amadeus. It really helped me understand 
 how to use this program.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear amadeus pro-familiar users,
 
 Project I’m working on is a short audio book, being read by a family 
 member. The problem I’m facing is this.
 
 When the reader makes a mistake, I have to stop recording, then rewind a 
 little bit, start playback so the reader can chime in at the right moment, 
 and then I need to resume recording, right from playback. Can Amadeus pro 
 do just that? In other words: when I am playing back audio, is there a 
 keystroke one can hit so that recording begins at that very moment, thereby 
 overwriting the tail of the file where the mistake was made?
 Hoping to hear back from you. Since I’m on the mac, I have not found the 
 solution to this issue yet.
 
 Kind regards,
 Paul.
 
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Install Win10 in Bootcamp2009 MacBook

2015-08-21 Thread Rob

Hi,
I am writing this message from Windows 10 using ThunderBird on my 2009 
Mac Book.
The reason for this message is to let people know that Windows 10 can be 
installed using Boot Camp.
Even though it will say Windows 8 is not supported, just pay no 
attention to that.

Here is what you will need.
1. a cheap USB sound card.
I got one for $10 at WalMart.
2. Windows 7 PE Talking disk.
this will allow you to install Windows 7 or 10 using NVDA.
3. Windows 7 DVD
4. Windows 10 DVD.
5. 8GB USB drive
to download windows support drivers
OK, Now that you have everything, here is how you install windows on 
boot camp.

On the Mac, open the boot camp assistant.
If you haven't already, download the windows support drivers to a USB drive.
be sure the Windows7  DVD is inserted.
this is the only way to proceed to the disk partitioning section.
after choosing the partition sizes, the process was about 36% done
when I removed the windows 7 DVD from the drive. but after a while. it 
asked me to put it back in the drive.
so I did. it finished the partitioning and this time it did not 
automatically restart like it did last year when I installed windows on 
my mac book.

So I removed the windows 7 disk and inserted my windows 7 PE talking disk.
Next I open the startup disk preference window and chose to start using 
windows 7 PE disk.

the Mac restarted and loadded the windows 7 talking disk.
this is when you will need the external sound card connected.
using it I was able to hear NVDA when it loaded.
I then removed the talking disk and inserted the windows 10 disk in the 
drive.

Using NVDA, I navigated to the disk and ran the setup for windows 10.
After the Mac restarts, you need to wait untill the second restart, then 
press windows+Enter to start Narrator to finish the install.


Note, you can choose to skip entering a windows key.
This can be done once you have finished setting up windows.
I do not have a key because I am a windows insider.
Once the setup is finished, you may loose speech through the external 
sound card. if so, unplug the sound card. you may now be able to use the 
Mac's internal sound, if not, just reinsert the external sound card and 
it should now work again.

OK, now its time to install the boot camp drivers from your USB drive.
For me, I got an error that this program is not compatible with this 
computer.

so I had to go into the drivers folder and install each driver individually.
I did not install the real tech audio drivers because the sound driver 
is working fine for me.

Now, I bet you are wondering how to choose windows or Mac to boot.
here is how I do it.
start the Mac.
at the mac startup sound, press and hold the Option key for about 12 
seconds.

now this will vary from Mac to Mac.
here is what I do.

I press right arrow then enter to start windows
or
left arrow then enter to start the recovery drive.
so that means the the Mac hard drive is in the middle.
Once logged on the Mac, go back to startup disk preferences and choose 
the mac hard drive as the startup disk.

Note, after doing this, the left and right arrow selection above may change.
You will have to experiment.

Well, thats all for now. I hope this helps someone.
Thanks,
Rob



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Re: adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi. I prefer Trillian because it uses Growl and for Facebook you don't need to 
log in to jabber.

Shawn
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Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 On Aug 21, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?
 
 On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
 understandings of how the Mac works on this level.
 
 All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are glorified 
 delete keys that remove applications and depending on your memory and swap 
 size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
  Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
 will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these since 
 the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said should adjust as 
 it’s in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was using rotating drives 
 I would backup and restore periodically because the disks would crawl.  
 Think god this is gone in the Flash drives.
  
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
 involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. 
 So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally 
 speaking anything that you might consider “junk” has the potential to be an 
 incredibly useful resource. Mac was designed off of an operating system 
 called unix. Unix had the job of running on highly sophisticated servers 
 for long periods of time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make 
 sure that “junk” never even got written to your hard drive.
 
 Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
 “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it 
 there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine that 
 was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) aren’t 
 preventative nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The moral of 
 the story is just don’t worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly 
 take it to somebody that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the 
 system. 
 
 Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
 that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) 
 not necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem 
 exists there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system 
 that in general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce are 
 more serious.
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should 
 keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  
 I reckon this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.comcaitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
 miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even 
 more then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, 
 and can do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have 
 got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I 
 didn't even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to 
 finnish the clean process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting 
 there.  It clames that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean 
 of just crap that I don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's 
 deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I 
 haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, 
 like PLists etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
 recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a 
 little pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's 
 going to prove to be fabulous!
  
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Re: adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yeah Trillion is good, thanks for the reminder.
 On 21 Aug 2015, at 21:55, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi. I prefer Trillian because it uses Growl and for Facebook you don't need 
 to log in to jabber.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net 
 mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?
 
 On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
 understandings of how the Mac works on this level.
 
 All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are glorified 
 delete keys that remove applications and depending on your memory and swap 
 size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
 Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
 will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these since 
 the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said should adjust 
 as it’s in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was using rotating 
 drives I would backup and restore periodically because the disks would 
 crawl.  Think god this is gone in the Flash drives.
  
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
 involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. 
 So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally 
 speaking anything that you might consider “junk” has the 
 potential to be an incredibly useful resource. Mac was designed off of an 
 operating system called unix. Unix had the job of running on highly 
 sophisticated servers for long periods of time. The whole purpose from the 
 ground up was to make sure that “junk” never even got written to your hard 
 drive.
 
Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
 “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it 
 there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine 
 that was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) 
 aren’t preventative nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The 
 moral of the story is just don’t worry about it. If your mac starts 
 running slowly take it to somebody that knows what they’re doing, 
 otherwise trust the system. 
 
Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
 that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) 
 not necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem 
 exists there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system 
 that in general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce 
 are more serious.
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should 
 keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell? 
  I reckon this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.comcaitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d 
 otherwise miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It 
 does even more then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all 
 that it does, and can do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have 
 got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I 
 didn't even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to 
 finnish the clean process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be 
 getting there.  It clames that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it 
 can clean of just crap that I don't need.  Yes, I did look through what 
 it's deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I 
 haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, 
 like PLists etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
 recommend this Utility, if you don't already 

Re: adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Try either Trillium or Adium.

Just fyi, you can also use multiple accounts with just the messages app that 
comes with the mac.
hth,
Caitlyn

 On Aug 21, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?
 
 On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
 understandings of how the Mac works on this level.
 
 All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are glorified 
 delete keys that remove applications and depending on your memory and swap 
 size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
  Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
 will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these since 
 the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said should adjust as 
 it’s in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was using rotating drives 
 I would backup and restore periodically because the disks would crawl.  
 Think god this is gone in the Flash drives.
  
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
 involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. 
 So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally 
 speaking anything that you might consider “junk” has the potential to be an 
 incredibly useful resource. Mac was designed off of an operating system 
 called unix. Unix had the job of running on highly sophisticated servers 
 for long periods of time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make 
 sure that “junk” never even got written to your hard drive.
 
 Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
 “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it 
 there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine that 
 was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) aren’t 
 preventative nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The moral of 
 the story is just don’t worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly 
 take it to somebody that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the 
 system. 
 
 Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
 that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) 
 not necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem 
 exists there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system 
 that in general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce are 
 more serious.
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should 
 keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  
 I reckon this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.comcaitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
 miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even 
 more then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, 
 and can do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have 
 got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I 
 didn't even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to 
 finnish the clean process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting 
 there.  It clames that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean 
 of just crap that I don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's 
 deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I 
 haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, 
 like PLists etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
 recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a 
 little pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's 
 going to prove to be fabulous!
  
 Chris.
 ---
 Visit me online:
  
  http://www.clgproductions.net/http://www.clgproductions.net 
 http://www.clgproductions.net/
 
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adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread Singing Sparrow

What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?

On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
understandings of how the Mac works on this level.


All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are 
glorified delete keys that remove applications and depending on your 
memory and swap size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these 
since the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said 
should adjust as it’s in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was 
using rotating drives I would backup and restore periodically because 
the disks would crawl.  Think god this is gone in the Flash drives.


On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson 
tktpianostud...@gmail.com mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:


I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and 
tools. So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. 
Generally speaking anything that you might consider “junk” has the 
potential to be an incredibly useful resource. Mac was designed off 
of an operating system called unix. Unix had the job of running on 
highly sophisticated servers for long periods of time. The whole 
purpose from the ground up was to make sure that “junk” never even 
got written to your hard drive.


Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, 
so “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to 
put it there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a 
machine that was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is 
concerned) aren’t preventative nor are they able to solve any serious 
issues. The moral of the story is just don’t worry about it. If your 
mac starts running slowly take it to somebody that knows what they’re 
doing, otherwise trust the system.


Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my 
experience) not necessary to restart your mac very often because 
again, if a problem exists there isn’t some magical fix to that 
problem. The mac is a system that in general, doesn’t produce issues, 
but those that it does produce are more serious.




On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:


Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really 
should keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how 
can one tell?  I reckon this may especially be true if beta testing 
yes?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness 
caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:


Chris,
Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s 
been absolutely wonderful to use!


I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d 
otherwise miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go! 
 It does even more then clean junk, too, so take some time to 
explore all that it does, and can do, for you.


Cait

On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I 
have got to hand it to ya. This thing has found junk on my drive 
that I didn't even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for 
ungodly ever to finnish the clean process, but slowly but surely, 
it seems to be getting there.  It clames that there are about 3 
gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I don't need.  
Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I 
haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left 
over, like PLists etc.
Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's 
a little pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks like 
it's going to prove to be fabulous!

Chris.
---
Visit me online:
http://www.clgproductions.net http://www.clgproductions.net/

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Re: adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread christopher hallsworth
The built-in Messages app is actually pretty good. It's not just for iMessages; 
it can also be used for Facebook chat via Jabba/XMPP, AOL, Google Talk, Yahoo, 
etc etc.
 On 21 Aug 2015, at 21:40, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?
 
 On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
 understandings of how the Mac works on this level.
 
 All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are glorified 
 delete keys that remove applications and depending on your memory and swap 
 size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
  Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
 will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these since 
 the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said should adjust as 
 it’s in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was using rotating drives 
 I would backup and restore periodically because the disks would crawl.  
 Think god this is gone in the Flash drives.
  
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
 involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. 
 So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally 
 speaking anything that you might consider “junk” has the potential to be an 
 incredibly useful resource. Mac was designed off of an operating system 
 called unix. Unix had the job of running on highly sophisticated servers 
 for long periods of time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make 
 sure that “junk” never even got written to your hard drive.
 
 Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
 “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it 
 there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine that 
 was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) aren’t 
 preventative nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The moral of 
 the story is just don’t worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly 
 take it to somebody that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the 
 system. 
 
 Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
 that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) 
 not necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem 
 exists there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system 
 that in general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce are 
 more serious.
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should 
 keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  
 I reckon this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.comcaitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
 miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even 
 more then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, 
 and can do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have 
 got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I 
 didn't even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to 
 finnish the clean process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting 
 there.  It clames that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean 
 of just crap that I don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's 
 deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I 
 haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, 
 like PLists etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
 recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a 
 little pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's 
 going to prove to be fabulous!
  
 Chris.
 ---
 Visit me online:
  
  http://www.clgproductions.net/http://www.clgproductions.net 
 http://www.clgproductions.net/
 
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Re: adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread Singing Sparrow

does I message also support file transfers?

On 8/21/2015 3:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
The built-in Messages app is actually pretty good. It's not just for 
iMessages; it can also be used for Facebook chat via Jabba/XMPP, AOL, 
Google Talk, Yahoo, etc etc.
On 21 Aug 2015, at 21:40, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net 
mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:


What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?

On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
understandings of how the Mac works on this level.


All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are 
glorified delete keys that remove applications and depending on your 
memory and swap size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there 
that will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of 
these since the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you 
said should adjust as it’s in use.  It does slow though though. 
 When I was using rotating drives I would backup and restore 
periodically because the disks would crawl.  Think god this is gone 
in the Flash drives.


On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson 
tktpianostud...@gmail.com mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:


I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My 
job involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications 
and tools. So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that 
knowledge. Generally speaking anything that you might consider 
“junk” has the potential to be an incredibly useful resource. Mac 
was designed off of an operating system called unix. Unix had the 
job of running on highly sophisticated servers for long periods of 
time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make sure that 
“junk” never even got written to your hard drive.


Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay 
true, so “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very 
hard to put it there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool 
“clean” a machine that was already clean. These tools (as far as 
the mac is concerned) aren’t preventative nor are they able to 
solve any serious issues. The moral of the story is just don’t 
worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly take it to 
somebody that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the system.


Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or 
“cleaner” that just magically makes things run better. It’s also 
(in my experience) not necessary to restart your mac very often 
because again, if a problem exists there isn’t some magical fix to 
that problem. The mac is a system that in general, doesn’t produce 
issues, but those that it does produce are more serious.




On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:


Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really 
should keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how 
can one tell?  I reckon this may especially be true if beta 
testing yes?



Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness 
caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:


Chris,
Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and 
it’s been absolutely wonderful to use!


I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d 
otherwise miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go! 
 It does even more then clean junk, too, so take some time to 
explore all that it does, and can do, for you.


Cait

On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac. I 
have got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my 
drive that I didn't even know was there! Granted, it's taking 
for ungodly ever to finnish the clean process, but slowly but 
surely, it seems to be getting there.  It clames that there are 
about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I don't 
need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that 
dumb.  LOL!
I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that 
I haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk 
left over, like PLists etc.
Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed! I'd highly, highly! 
recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, 
it's a little pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks 
like it's going to prove to be fabulous!

Chris.
---
Visit me online:
http://www.clgproductions.net

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Re: adium or other multi messengers for mac.

2015-08-21 Thread christopher hallsworth
Pretty sure it good, at least on the receiving end of things. I know it can 
record and send voice messages just like it can on iOS.
 On 21 Aug 2015, at 21:51, Singing Sparrow sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 does I message also support file transfers?
 
 On 8/21/2015 3:45 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
 The built-in Messages app is actually pretty good. It's not just for 
 iMessages; it can also be used for Facebook chat via Jabba/XMPP, AOL, Google 
 Talk, Yahoo, etc etc.
 On 21 Aug 2015, at 21:40, Singing Sparrow  
 mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.netsunsh...@abe.midco.net 
 mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 What is the best multi messenger client for the mac?
 
 On 8/21/2015 12:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
 understandings of how the Mac works on this level.
 
 All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are 
 glorified delete keys that remove applications and depending on your 
 memory and swap size this may help if you free up more space for swap.
Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
 will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these since 
 the Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said should adjust 
 as it’s in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was using rotating 
 drives I would backup and restore periodically because the disks would 
 crawl.  Think god this is gone in the Flash drives.
  
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
 involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and 
 tools. So my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. 
 Generally speaking anything that you might consider “junk” has the 
 potential to be an incredibly useful resource. Mac was designed off of an 
 operating system called unix. Unix had the job of running on highly 
 sophisticated servers for long periods of time. The whole purpose from 
 the ground up was to make sure that “junk” never even got written to your 
 hard drive.
 
   Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
 “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it 
 there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine 
 that was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) 
 aren’t preventative nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The 
 moral of the story is just don’t worry about it. If your mac starts 
 running slowly take it to somebody that knows what they’re doing, 
 otherwise trust the system. 
 
   Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
 that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) 
 not necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem 
 exists there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system 
 that in general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce 
 are more serious.
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr  
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.netrforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should 
 keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one 
 tell?  I reckon this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.comcaitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d 
 otherwise miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It 
 does even more then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all 
 that it does, and can do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have 
 got to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I 
 didn't even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to 
 finnish the clean process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be 
 getting there.  It clames that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it 
 can clean of just crap that I don't need.  Yes, I did look through 
 what it's deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I 
 haven't used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left 
 over, like PLists etc.
  
 

Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!

2015-08-21 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should keep?  
Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  I reckon 
this may especially be true if beta testing yes?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
 miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even more 
 then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, and can 
 do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have got 
 to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I didn't even 
 know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to finnish the clean 
 process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting there.  It clames 
 that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I 
 don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that dumb. 
  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I haven't 
 used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, like PLists 
 etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! recommend 
 this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a little pricy, but 
 for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's going to prove to be 
 fabulous!
  
 Chris.
 ---
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Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!

2015-08-21 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Chris,
Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
absolutely wonderful to use!

I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise miss! 
 I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even more then clean 
junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, and can do, for you.

Cait

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have got to 
 hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I didn't even know 
 was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to finnish the clean 
 process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting there.  It clames that 
 there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I don't 
 need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I haven't 
 used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, like PLists 
 etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! recommend 
 this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a little pricy, but 
 for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's going to prove to be 
 fabulous!
  
 Chris.
 ---
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Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!

2015-08-21 Thread Tyler Thompson
I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. So 
my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally speaking 
anything that you might consider “junk” has the potential to be an incredibly 
useful resource. Mac was designed off of an operating system called unix. Unix 
had the job of running on highly sophisticated servers for long periods of 
time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make sure that “junk” never 
even got written to your hard drive.

Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
“junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it there. 
I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine that was 
already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) aren’t preventative 
nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The moral of the story is just 
don’t worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly take it to somebody 
that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the system. 

Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) not 
necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem exists 
there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system that in 
general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce are more 
serious.



 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should keep? 
  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  I reckon 
 this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
 miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even more 
 then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, and can 
 do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have got 
 to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I didn't even 
 know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to finnish the clean 
 process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting there.  It clames 
 that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap that I 
 don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not that 
 dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I haven't 
 used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, like PLists 
 etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! recommend 
 this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a little pricy, but 
 for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's going to prove to be 
 fabulous!
  
 Chris.
 ---
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 http://www.clgproductions.net http://www.clgproductions.net/
 
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Re: Wow! What a Nice Little Utility!

2015-08-21 Thread Scott Granados
Sort of right and I’m glad to see someone else with some accurate 
understandings of how the Mac works on this level.

All I would say is that there may be some cleaning apps which are glorified 
delete keys that remove applications and depending on your memory and swap size 
this may help if you free up more space for swap.
Another thing I’ve noticed is there are some utilities out there that 
will clean up the filesystem but I’ve always been skeptical of these since the 
Mac uses a much more modern filesystem that as you said should adjust as it’s 
in use.  It does slow though though.  When I was using rotating drives I would 
backup and restore periodically because the disks would crawl.  Think god this 
is gone in the Flash drives.
 

 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tyler Thompson tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I’d like to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a software engineer, My job 
 involves designing (for both PC and Mac) different applications and tools. So 
 my 2 cents here is primarily based off of that knowledge. Generally speaking 
 anything that you might consider “junk” has the potential to be an incredibly 
 useful resource. Mac was designed off of an operating system called unix. 
 Unix had the job of running on highly sophisticated servers for long periods 
 of time. The whole purpose from the ground up was to make sure that “junk” 
 never even got written to your hard drive.
 
   Apple has worked very hard to make sure that those ideals stay true, so 
 “junk” doesn’t ever exist unless you as the user try very hard to put it 
 there. I personally wouldn’t ever pay to have a tool “clean” a machine that 
 was already clean. These tools (as far as the mac is concerned) aren’t 
 preventative nor are they able to solve any serious issues. The moral of the 
 story is just don’t worry about it. If your mac starts running slowly take it 
 to somebody that knows what they’re doing, otherwise trust the system. 
 
   Unlike windows there’s no such thing as a “defragmenter” or “cleaner” 
 that just magically makes things run better. It’s also (in my experience) not 
 necessary to restart your mac very often because again, if a problem exists 
 there isn’t some magical fix to that problem. The mac is a system that in 
 general, doesn’t produce issues, but those that it does produce are more 
 serious.
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:08, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Thing is this.  How can you tell what's junk and what you really should 
 keep?  Without becoming a Mac expert, (which I am not.) how can one tell?  I 
 reckon this may especially be true if beta testing yes?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 mailto:caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 Mark and I bought a multiple license copy of clean my mac and it’s been 
 absolutely wonderful to use!
 
 I run it on my mac every week and it always finds junk that I’d otherwise 
 miss!  I haven’t regretted buying this from the get go!  It does even more 
 then clean junk, too, so take some time to explore all that it does, and 
 can do, for you.
 
 Cait
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought a single use license for $39.99 to Clean My Mac.  I have got 
 to hand it to ya.  This thing has found junk on my drive that I didn't 
 even know was there!  Granted, it's taking for ungodly ever to finnish the 
 clean process, but slowly but surely, it seems to be getting there.  It 
 clames that there are about 3 gigs roughly that it can clean of just crap 
 that I don't need.  Yes, I did look through what it's deleting.  I'm not 
 that dumb.  LOL!
  
 I also was able to completely remove about 16 applications that I haven't 
 used in several years, and get rid of all their gunk left over, like 
 PLists etc.
  
 Needless to say, I am incredibly! impressed!  I'd highly, highly! 
 recommend this Utility, if you don't already have it.  Yeah, it's a little 
 pricy, but for what it seems to be doing, it looks like it's going to 
 prove to be fabulous!
  
 Chris.
 ---
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Vo commands for the mac

2015-08-21 Thread Marie Lyons
I just purchased an imac and was wondering where to find a list of commands?

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Re: Vo commands for the mac

2015-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hi,
This should help, it contains everything well, pretty much anything, you would 
want to know about VoiceOver.
The link is
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.10/ 
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.10/
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
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Re: Vo commands for the mac

2015-08-21 Thread Alex Hall
There is a lot to cover. I recommend starting with the resources on
http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac
or
www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/

and then asking questions on this list, or the Applevis forums, as you find 
things you aren't sure of. There's also a free iBook called Mastering the Mac 
with VoiceOver that a lot of people find very helpful.
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 I just purchased an imac and was wondering where to find a list of commands?
 
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Re: Vo commands for the mac

2015-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hi,
I don’t think that the “Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver” book has been 
updated since it came out last year, so, it is for Mavericks. However, a lot of 
the things in that book are still useful, and do still work, even in Yosemite.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 There is a lot to cover. I recommend starting with the resources on
 http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac
 or
 www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 and then asking questions on this list, or the Applevis forums, as you find 
 things you aren't sure of. There's also a free iBook called Mastering the 
 Mac with VoiceOver that a lot of people find very helpful.
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com 
 mailto:mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 Marie 
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Re: Vo commands for the mac

2015-08-21 Thread Alex Hall
Indeed, the essentials (nearly all VoiceOver commands, concepts in Finder and 
other basic apps, etc) apply going back years. Many of the podcasts on AppleVis 
are for Lion or Mountain Lion, but still hold true to Yosemite. Apple tends not 
to change the basics, fortunately.
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Jeffrey Shockley jawswiz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I don’t think that the “Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver” book has been 
 updated since it came out last year, so, it is for Mavericks. However, a lot 
 of the things in that book are still useful, and do still work, even in 
 Yosemite.
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 There is a lot to cover. I recommend starting with the resources on
 http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac
 or
 www.macfortheblind.com http://www.macfortheblind.com/
 
 and then asking questions on this list, or the Applevis forums, as you find 
 things you aren't sure of. There's also a free iBook called Mastering the 
 Mac with VoiceOver that a lot of people find very helpful.
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com 
 mailto:mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just purchased an imac and was wondering where to find a list of commands?
 
 Marie 
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Re: Install9ng Win7 in Bootcamp

2015-08-21 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Awesome.

You’d know the drivers were installed because the Intel HD audio on Macs isn’t 
natively supported in Windows—at least it wasn’t when I was last in there a few 
months back.  So, you should know. :)

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Re: bugs in snow leppard?

2015-08-21 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Snow Leopard? Do you know someone that's still using Snow Leopard? I don't 
remember all of the bugs because that's such an old OS. I don't think newer 
Macs would support it to begin with.

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 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:27 AM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Are there bugs in snow leppard? i have been reading on some web sites and it 
 seems there are bugs where trying to use headers in safari will not work 
 correct ly is this true?
 
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Re: Double clicking on the mac was Re: Problem with dropbox please help

2015-08-21 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello,

This guy keeps giving visual ways of doing things. Where he says to 
double-click, just do Cmd-o, and when he says to right-click, do VO-Shift-m.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 21 Aug 2015, at 09:38, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all sorry about this I might be having a blond moment. How do you double 
 click with VoiceOver on the Mac? Like you would in this case?
 On 20 Aug 2015, at 22:36, John Maliga manskyb...@gmail.com 
 mailto:manskyb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In the Finder (on your Desktop), you will find a drive named Dropbox 
 Installer. When you double-click it, it will launch the installer, and you 
 can click the only icon in that window to Install Dropbox. It should take 
 less than a minute. When it is done, go back to the Finder and right-click 
 on the Dropbox Installer. Select Eject 'Dropbox Installer' from the 
 contextual menu (or select the Dropbox Installer icon and select Eject 
 'Dropbox Installer' from the File menu in the Finder.
 
 Check again for the Dropbox icon in your menu bar, and for the Dropbox 
 application in your Applications folder. If both exist, you have succeeded.
 
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Double clicking on the mac was Re: Problem with dropbox please help

2015-08-21 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all sorry about this I might be having a blond moment. How do you double 
click with VoiceOver on the Mac? Like you would in this case?
 On 20 Aug 2015, at 22:36, John Maliga manskyb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In the Finder (on your Desktop), you will find a drive named Dropbox 
 Installer. When you double-click it, it will launch the installer, and you 
 can click the only icon in that window to Install Dropbox. It should take 
 less than a minute. When it is done, go back to the Finder and right-click on 
 the Dropbox Installer. Select Eject 'Dropbox Installer' from the contextual 
 menu (or select the Dropbox Installer icon and select Eject 'Dropbox 
 Installer' from the File menu in the Finder.
 
 Check again for the Dropbox icon in your menu bar, and for the Dropbox 
 application in your Applications folder. If both exist, you have succeeded.
 
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Re: IPhone or IPad as a trackpad?

2015-08-21 Thread christopher hallsworth
I'm sure there's an app in the App Store to do this. How accessible  is 
anyone's guess.
 On 21 Aug 2015, at 00:46, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 folks, this may seem like an incredibly stupid question, but I can't resist 
 asking. is there a way, without jailbreaking, and again I say… With, out, 
 jail, breaking… That I can use my iPhone, or iPad when plugged into my Mac 
 computer via USB as a trackpad?
 
 I do not have much room on my desk, and the one iPhone is about the size of a 
 mouse, I think it would be much easier if I could simply use my iPhone, and 
 just plug it in whenever it is needed.
 
 again, I totally get that this is probably a very stupid question, but again, 
 I can't resist asking.
 
 Thanks.
 
 :)
 
 Chris.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: iTunes question.

2015-08-21 Thread Terje Strømberg
Maybe command 1, 2 …..

Shut down iTunes with options - command + esc, browse to the table, interact, 
hit enter twice on iTunes, shut down the system dialog.

Take care

21. aug. 2015 kl. 05:30 skrev Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com:

Hi all, 

Trying to get out of the slide show iTunes gives me when opening the app. 

Any idea how to leave the slide show? 

Pressing the close button just puts me in a loop. 

Thank you. 

With Best regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Blog: 

Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 

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bugs in snow leppard?

2015-08-21 Thread Sunshine
Are there bugs in snow leppard? i have been reading on some web sites 
and it seems there are bugs where trying to use headers in safari will 
not work correct ly is this true?


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