Re: safari problem and question

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Safari right now not so good like it was like Yosemite.
> On 30 Oct 2015, at 03:44, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
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> I have tried about five or six times already to go to any web sites using 
> safari and nothing is going anywhere, no matter what web site i  try.
> 
> I have already deleted my history, and undid all auto filling in the 
> preferences.
> 
> what can i do is there a way to reinstall safari? or will i end up 
> reinstalling yosemity?
> 
> My internet connection is working fine with my windows computers i also use 
> so the internet is fine.
>  also on another note, how do you get voice over from completting items in 
> safaris address bar? this is getting a bit anoying.
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Re: safari problem and question

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

He's not on El Capitan.  He's *on!* Yosemite.  I know this, as I talk to 
this guy on Twitter on a very very regular basis.


Chris.

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Safari right now not so good like it was like Yosemite.

On 30 Oct 2015, at 03:44, Singing Sparrow  wrote:

I have tried about five or six times already to go to any web sites using 
safari and nothing is going anywhere, no matter what web site i  try.


I have already deleted my history, and undid all auto filling in the 
preferences.


what can i do is there a way to reinstall safari? or will i end up 
reinstalling yosemity?


My internet connection is working fine with my windows computers i also 
use so the internet is fine.
 also on another note, how do you get voice over from completting items 
in safaris address bar? this is getting a bit anoying.


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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I don’t have windows at all at home.  I was thinking of getting a CD from 
Amazon but wait to see if the price comes down.
> On 30 Oct 2015, at 21:33, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Ditto; started with version 3.  Things have only got better.  Any comments I 
> might make about the product are pertinent to the product as a whole and not 
> its accessibility, although there were bugs in prior releases which meant, 
> for example, that one could not use snapshots requiring use of the command 
> line.  And the pricing or limited configuration options (compared to 
> Workstation or VBox) are things I’m largely prepared to deal with, especially 
> since I have access to Workstation also.
> 
> Yeah, it’s nice, really.  Just keep your wallet handy. :)
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What happened to airplay in control center on the iPhone?

[Mary Otten]

I want to play an album then I just purchased on my iPhone. I went to the 
control center and look for airplay. It used to be there on iOS 8. It is not 
there anymore. Where did it go?
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How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
iTunes on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
version of the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
all come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
who are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
an app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
iOS compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite
app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver
accessibility to it, should it be updated.

2.
You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible
version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break
its accessibility.

3.
On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate
the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will
update a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is
currently on your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like
the current version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan
for worse case scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of
your mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS
navigation, etc.

DAY TWO:

1.
Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is
an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  

2.
You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver
accessibility has been broken.

3.
You immediately delete the app from your iOS device.

4.
Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes,
you install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device,
just as you would have done in iOS 8.x.
[END EXAMPLE]

The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you
should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any
future updates break them.

Mark

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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Sabahattin, 

Thanks for your feedback. Looks like I’ll be staying put for the moment. 

If I had a secondary Mac or Windows computer I might have risked it but as 
things stand Yosemite may be the ticket for now. 

The ironic thing is that El Capitan was supposedly going to focus on stability. 
I guess this didn’t extend to VoiceOver. 

Thanks again. 

Yours truley, 

Sadam Ahmed 

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 4:39 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external 
> drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.
> 
> Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs 
> that are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because 
> I’ve done it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That includes 
> activities, hotspots and Safari text editing.  And I’m absolutely not at 
> liberty to say that, alas, even the latest beta (which you should be running, 
> if you can) is not immune, although thank goodness it does appear the fixes 
> are coming for some of the reported issues so somebody is actually listening.
> 
> My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
> experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS.  I am 
> saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers.  The end 
> days are almost upon us. :)
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> Yep, same thinking, although I would never use Win10 as my primary OS on 
> account of Microsoft’s clear intention to follow Google into the realm of 
> unwarranted data gathering.  Hence, Win8.1 with Classic Shell.  It’s painful, 
> but fight it long enough and hard enough, and you end up with an OS that’s 
> really quite usable.
> 
> As to the VMWare question: oh yes, you can.  A bunch of naughty people have a 
> patch for recent versions of Workstation that’ll turn off the inhibition 
> against booting OS X on non-Apple hardware, and the same trick will work to 
> run OS X on your Mac from within Windows (which, as you point out, really 
> ought to be a supported configuration).  And while it doesn’t smell quite as 
> sweet as the real thing, it sure as hell works.
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Upgrading to El Capitan

[Stacey Robinson]

Is it ok to install the latest upgrade over   yosimity?
I have an eleven inch macbook air.

Blessings,
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Re: Upgrading to El Capitan

[Stacey Robinson]

Alex,
That is what I needed to know.
Thanks,
Blessings,
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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Your call, but overall, things seem okay now. I can't speak to braille, 
> though. Have a look at www.applevis.com/bugs  
> to see what is and isn't fixed. That's not a perfect list, but we try to 
> add/close any bugs we can confirm. If your question is about the OS itself, 
> your Mac should handle it just fine.
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 20:25, Stacey Robinson > > wrote:
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>> Is it ok to install the latest upgrade overyosimity?
>> I have an eleven inch macbook air.
>> 
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Re: Upgrading to El Capitan

[Alex Hall]

Your call, but overall, things seem okay now. I can't speak to braille, though. 
Have a look at www.applevis.com/bugs to see what is and isn't fixed. That's not 
a perfect list, but we try to add/close any bugs we can confirm. If your 
question is about the OS itself, your Mac should handle it just fine.
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 20:25, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
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> Is it ok to install the latest upgrade over yosimity?
> I have an eleven inch macbook air.
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RE: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to my mac?

[george b]

yes

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Subject: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to 
my mac?

I think the answer to this question is probably know, but I thought I would ask 
anyway. I generally try to avoid buying music using my phone. But, I just 
bought some stuff using the Russian keyboard on my phone and now I'm wondering 
how I'm going to get that into my iTunes library on the Mac. I do have iTunes 
match also. And I do not have anything in my library that is not something I 
purchased or ripped. Should I suppose that the things I bought are going to 
show up on my mac? Or do I have to transfer the purchases using iTunes on the 
Mac?
Mary


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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Sabahattin, 

Thanks for your feedback. Looks like I’ll be staying put for the moment. 

If I had a secondery Mac or Windows computer I might have risked it but as 
things stand Yosemite may be the ticket for now. 

The ironic thing is that El Capitan was supposedly going to focus on stability. 
I guess this didn’t extend to VoiceOver. 

Thanks again. 

Yours truley, 

Sadam Ahmed 

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 4:39 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external 
> drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.
> 
> Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs 
> that are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because 
> I’ve done it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That includes 
> activities, hotspots and Safari text editing.  And I’m absolutely not at 
> liberty to say that, alas, even the latest beta (which you should be running, 
> if you can) is not immune, although thank goodness it does appear the fixes 
> are coming for some of the reported issues so somebody is actually listening.
> 
> My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
> experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS.  I am 
> saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers.  The end 
> days are almost upon us. :)
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Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to my mac?

[Mary Otten]

I think the answer to this question is probably know, but I thought I would ask 
anyway. I generally try to avoid buying music using my phone. But, I just 
bought some stuff using the Russian keyboard on my phone and now I'm wondering 
how I'm going to get that into my iTunes library on the Mac. I do have iTunes 
match also. And I do not have anything in my library that is not something I 
purchased or ripped. Should I suppose that the things I bought are going to 
show up on my mac? Or do I have to transfer the purchases using iTunes on the 
Mac?
Mary


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Re: Upgrading to El Capitan

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

it depends what do you do on your mac, if you are using your mac for garage 
band, don't upgrade, because garage band on el capitan is not that good.
> Il giorno 31 ott 2015, alle ore 1:25 AM, Stacey Robinson 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Is it ok to install the latest upgrade over yosimity?
> I have an eleven inch macbook air.
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
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Problems finding airplay

[Mary Otten]

I earlier send a message about problems finding airplay in the control center. 
I just left on my iPad mini, also running iOS 9.1, and there it is. Right after 
AirDrop. I sent a friend of mine the same note, and he reports he does not see 
airplay in his control center running an iPhone 5s. I am using an iPhone 6s. 
Yet I do see your play on my iPad mini also running iOS 9.1. What the heck is 
going on?
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Airplane gone from the control center on my iPhone 6s

[Mary Otten]

Sorry for all this cross posting, but I really would like to find a solution 
for this. I have an iPhone 6 s running iOS 9.1. When I go into control center 
and try to find airplay, it is gone. In the flick order, it should come right 
after AirDrop. But I have AirDrop followed by flashlight. In my iPad mini 
running the same version of iOS, airplane is present where it should be. I have 
tried restarting the phone to no avail. Any other suggestions? Can I find 
airplay somewhere else? I was trying to use it with the music app.
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Re: Airplane gone from the control center on my iPhone 6s

[Feliciano Godoy]

Have you tried doing a hard reset on your device? Hold the wake/sleep and home 
button for 8 seconds. You can find airplane mode inside  of settings as well.

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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Sorry for all this cross posting, but I really would like to find a solution 
> for this. I have an iPhone 6 s running iOS 9.1. When I go into control center 
> and try to find airplay, it is gone. In the flick order, it should come right 
> after AirDrop. But I have AirDrop followed by flashlight. In my iPad mini 
> running the same version of iOS, airplane is present where it should be. I 
> have tried restarting the phone to no avail. Any other suggestions? Can I 
> find airplay somewhere else? I was trying to use it with the music app.
> Mary
> 
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Re: More on hotspots.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
In keyboard help vo announces jump to hotspot 2.
However i can not add a hotspot on this number as vo announces ”.
So do you have any suggestions from here?
I wonder if its something with the swedish keyboard.
/A
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 08:48, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> Hello Anders,
> 
> If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
> something very strange is happening.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I use swedish keyboard here.
>> Maybe this is the case here to.
>> I wonder why?
>> /A
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Anders,
>>> 
>>> What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, 
>>> the French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have 
>>> numbers on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, is 
>>> not supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still 
>>> work. In that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 
 2.
 I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
 So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
 stated?
 I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
 I keep you all posted if interested.
 /A
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bringing multiple pdf-files together in one pdf document

[William Windels]

Hello all,

I red something that you can add multiple pdf-files to one pdf-document with 
preview.
However, it should be possible to drag and drop files from the finder in the 
active document in preview.
This doesn’t work for me with vo+, and vo+. to drag and drop files.

Anyway, can someone here combine multiple pdf-files in one pdf-file ?

A workaround could be to oc all files together to one file but there is perhaps 
something better.



Thx for the advices.

Kind regards,
William

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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m told 
the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Well scott,
> 
> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
> 
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> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> Hi,
> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
> unsupported configuration.  
> 
> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
> 
> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

I did not like lifeproof after a while because the ports for the front and back 
camers got hasy after a while and had to clean them by taking out of the case.  
Otter box is I agree to big and you know the new phones have the really tough 
glass 

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:37
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go during 
the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours which will 
lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the weekend but It’s 
still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t really like otter box 
although was thinking of trying them again, a little bulky for my taste.  

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:
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> Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it
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> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m 
> told the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Well scott,
>> 
>> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>> unsupported configuration.  
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Feliciano Godoy]

Why not go  back to the store if it was their error?

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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
> unsupported configuration.  
> 
> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
> 
> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go during 
the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours which will 
lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the weekend but It’s 
still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t really like otter box 
although was thinking of trying them again, a little bulky for my taste.  

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m 
> told the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Well scott,
>> 
>> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>> unsupported configuration.  
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
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RE: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[george b]

Well the issue is I can only find a 32 bit windows 7 and it will I am assuming 
will not let me upgrade to 64 bit will it?

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:21
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

If you have a copy of an earlier version of windows you can download and 
install windows 10 for free.


> On Oct 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest VMFusion but no windows.  I need to get Windows 10 just to 
> try it.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> 
>> I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM 
>> are sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although 
>> this is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that 
>> unrelated Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. 
>> They've done really well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and 
>> I started out with VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.
>> 
>> Nicolai
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten 
>>> very good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know 
>>> some on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a 
>>> lot to be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who 
>>> started with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten 
>>> so much easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while 
>>> in the VM through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and 
>>> shutdown of VMs, the windows initial registration and setup worked and the 
>>> integration with a laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works 
>>> great.  Anyone else agree or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no 
>>> better.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
>>> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my 
>>> case I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and 
>>> the other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD 
>>> entirely.
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

Well scott,

How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

Hi,
I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof case 
but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed and now 
life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an unsupported 
configuration.  

So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[Scott Granados]

If you have a copy of an earlier version of windows you can download and 
install windows 10 for free.


> On Oct 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest VMFusion but no windows.  I need to get Windows 10 just to 
> try it.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM 
>> are sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although 
>> this is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that 
>> unrelated Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. 
>> They've done really well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and 
>> I started out with VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.
>> 
>> Nicolai
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten 
>>> very good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know 
>>> some on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a 
>>> lot to be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who 
>>> started with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten 
>>> so much easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while 
>>> in the VM through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and 
>>> shutdown of VMs, the windows initial registration and setup worked and the 
>>> integration with a laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works 
>>> great.  Anyone else agree or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no 
>>> better.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
>>> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my 
>>> case I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and 
>>> the other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD 
>>> entirely.
>>> 
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

That’s another issue, the rubber for me would fail over time but better the 
rubber take a beating than the phone.

Probably going to go otter box although I’m reading about these Rock Form cases 
online.  Some sort of carbide material.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:47 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   iPhone 5 is over 2 years old, and its Otter Box case is as old and its 
> never failed, the port covers (3 of them) have not broken off even with daily 
> use.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 10/30/2015 7:44 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Well, I don’t hate them, it was the first case I started with on the iPhone 
>> 4 believe it or not it’s just they have some bulk to them.  I like the 
>> streamline feel and shape of the life proof but you’re right I may go otter 
>> box just because it’s something I know.
>> 
>> Not a bad suggestion and thanks for taking the time to write.
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:41 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   No matter what you do, there will be a cost. Since you do not like Otter 
>>> cases, that suggestion just went out the window.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 10/30/2015 7:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go 
 during the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours 
 which will lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the 
 weekend but It’s still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t 
 really like otter box although was thinking of trying them again, a little 
 bulky for my taste.
 
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m 
> told the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the 
> store.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Well scott,
>> 
>> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life 
>> proof case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the 
>> snaps failed and now life proof won’t support or refund because the 
>> store sold me an unsupported configuration.
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
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Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

Hi,
I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof case 
but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed and now 
life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an unsupported 
configuration.  

So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

Yeah the phone might be resilient enough.  The thing I didn’t like about the 
life proof was how they obscured the speakers and microphone and you’d get a 
muffled sound unless you used a bluetooth.  I usually did use bluetooth so it 
wasn’t unbearable but I know what you mean.
 

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:39 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> I did not like lifeproof after a while because the ports for the front and 
> back camers got hasy after a while and had to clean them by taking out of the 
> case.  Otter box is I agree to big and you know the new phones have the 
> really tough glass 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:37
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go 
> during the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours 
> which will lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the 
> weekend but It’s still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t 
> really like otter box although was thinking of trying them again, a little 
> bulky for my taste.  
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:
>> 
>> Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>> 
>> It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m 
>> told the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the 
>> store.
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well scott,
>>> 
>>> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>>> unsupported configuration.  
>>> 
>>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

Well you have t mobile, and if you have the jump program just do like I did and 
I have the case which is fuzzy inside and rubber on the outside and is not 
waterproof and the entire front of the phone is exposed, but so what since you 
have the no questions asked replacement for the device

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:38
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

I definitely can but I was wanting ideas as to what to replace it with?
I won’t take another of the same type because it will probably fail the same 
way.

That more clear?

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
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> Why not go  back to the store if it was their error?
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>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>> unsupported configuration.  
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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RE: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[george b]

Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m told 
the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Well scott,
> 
> How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
> 
> Hi,
> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
> unsupported configuration.  
> 
> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
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> 
> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

I definitely can but I was wanting ideas as to what to replace it with?
I won’t take another of the same type because it will probably fail the same 
way.

That more clear?

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
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>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
>> case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed 
>> and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an 
>> unsupported configuration.  
>> 
>> So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
>> arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
>> 
>> Any ideas would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[Scott Granados]

Well, I don’t hate them, it was the first case I started with on the iPhone 4 
believe it or not it’s just they have some bulk to them.  I like the streamline 
feel and shape of the life proof but you’re right I may go otter box just 
because it’s something I know.

Not a bad suggestion and thanks for taking the time to write.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:41 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   No matter what you do, there will be a cost. Since you do not like Otter 
> cases, that suggestion just went out the window.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 10/30/2015 7:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go 
>> during the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours 
>> which will lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the 
>> weekend but It’s still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t 
>> really like otter box although was thinking of trying them again, a little 
>> bulky for my taste.
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
>>> 
>>> It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m 
>>> told the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the 
>>> store.
>>> 
 On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:
 
 Well scott,
 
 How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+
 
 Hi,
 I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof 
 case but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps 
 failed and now life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold 
 me an unsupported configuration.
 
 So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
 arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.
 
 Any ideas would be most appreciated.
 
 Thanks
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[E.T.]

   No matter what you do, there will be a cost. Since you do not like 
Otter cases, that suggestion just went out the window.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/30/2015 7:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go during 
the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours which will 
lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the weekend but It’s 
still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t really like otter box 
although was thinking of trying them again, a little bulky for my taste.


On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:

Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:24
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m told 
the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.


On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:

Well scott,

How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 07:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

Hi,
I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof case 
but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed and now 
life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an unsupported 
configuration.

So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: Need suggestions for cases for the iPhone 6S+

[E.T.]

   iPhone 5 is over 2 years old, and its Otter Box case is as old and 
its never failed, the port covers (3 of them) have not broken off even 
with daily use.


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On 10/30/2015 7:44 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Well, I don’t hate them, it was the first case I started with on the iPhone 4 
believe it or not it’s just they have some bulk to them.  I like the streamline 
feel and shape of the life proof but you’re right I may go otter box just 
because it’s something I know.

Not a bad suggestion and thanks for taking the time to write.


On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:41 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   No matter what you do, there will be a cost. Since you do not like Otter 
cases, that suggestion just went out the window.

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On 10/30/2015 7:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Yeah it’s just a matter of taking time to get to the store.  I could go during 
the week but to trade in an 80 dollar case it will take me 2 hours which will 
lose me 200 per hour worth of work time.  I could go on the weekend but It’s 
still the thing I need a replacement suggestion.  I don’t really like otter box 
although was thinking of trying them again, a little bulky for my taste.


On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, george b  wrote:

Well then tqake it back to the store and make them replcce it

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It’s a 6+ case not a 6S case.  It’s about a millimeter difference but I’m told 
the case will fail and mine did.  They did the installation at the store.


On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:23 AM, george b  wrote:

Well scott,

How did you get that 6s plus in that 6s case when the plus is bigge

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Hi,
I need suggestions for a good case for the 6S+.  I was using a life proof case 
but unknown to me it’s for a 6+ and not a 6S+, one of the snaps failed and now 
life proof won’t support or refund because the store sold me an unsupported 
configuration.

So I need a new case idea.  Prefer waterproof and rugged but open to any 
arrangement.  Also would like a good belt clip assembly.

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Scott

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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Devin Prater]

Shoot, I'm gonna try and get into Linux, maybe Sonar. I probably won't get too 
far, but who knows. Maybe it'll actually work for basic computing needs, like 
reading email. That'll be nice to do on a computer again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Yep, same thinking, although I would never use Win10 as my primary OS on 
> account of Microsoft’s clear intention to follow Google into the realm of 
> unwarranted data gathering.  Hence, Win8.1 with Classic Shell.  It’s painful, 
> but fight it long enough and hard enough, and you end up with an OS that’s 
> really quite usable.
> 
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> patch for recent versions of Workstation that’ll turn off the inhibition 
> against booting OS X on non-Apple hardware, and the same trick will work to 
> run OS X on your Mac from within Windows (which, as you point out, really 
> ought to be a supported configuration).  And while it doesn’t smell quite as 
> sweet as the real thing, it sure as hell works.
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Current build of El Capitan.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,

After my initial upgrade to  El Capitan and downgrade I am wondering if 
some of the bugs in VoiceOver have been addressed?


I spend a lot of time in Safari and was following the thread discussing 
VoiceOver issues a couple of weeks ago.


Things work pretty well after downgrading so don't want to risk things 
specially as I only have one machine.


Thanks for any insight.

Yours truly,

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yep, same thinking, although I would never use Win10 as my primary OS on 
account of Microsoft’s clear intention to follow Google into the realm of 
unwarranted data gathering.  Hence, Win8.1 with Classic Shell.  It’s painful, 
but fight it long enough and hard enough, and you end up with an OS that’s 
really quite usable.

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patch for recent versions of Workstation that’ll turn off the inhibition 
against booting OS X on non-Apple hardware, and the same trick will work to run 
OS X on your Mac from within Windows (which, as you point out, really ought to 
be a supported configuration).  And while it doesn’t smell quite as sweet as 
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Re: clean my mac on El Capitan

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Indeed, the cleanup done by the periodic scripts are not particularly 
important, although one function they provide is to invoke makewhatis, which 
allows use of the whatis command.  That I appreciate.  Since my iMac is in fact 
a fortress that runs 24/7, as all proper well-adjusted Unix boxen should, this 
isn’t a problem for me.

I agree that the article is looking a little to one side on matters of app 
cleanup, although I still don’t disagree with the conclusion; for most people, 
unless a user has recent to believe that an app is storing significant amounts 
of app data in a non-user-accessible fashion, it probably doesn’t matter.  
Having said this, yes, the places to look are in the Library folder; for 
containerised apps just Library/Containers, which includes all Mac App Store 
apps.  As a rule I simply avoid installing anything I don’t need, and always 
perform thorough cleanup (using the find utility, for example) if I make the 
mistake of installing an app I don’t want.  There are also free tools like 
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Re: More on hotspots.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Anders,

If Keyboard Help announces the hotspot commands correctly, then it isn’t to do 
with the Swedish keyboard. Have you reinitialised the PRAM lately? That 
sometimes fixes anomalies like this.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 30 Oct 2015, at 13:40, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> In keyboard help vo announces jump to hotspot 2.
> However i can not add a hotspot on this number as vo announces ”.
> So do you have any suggestions from here?
> I wonder if its something with the swedish keyboard.
> /A
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 08:48, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anders,
>> 
>> If you do VO-k, does VoiceOver announce the hotspots correctly? If so, then 
>> something very strange is happening.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:52, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I use swedish keyboard here.
>>> Maybe this is the case here to.
>>> I wonder why?
>>> /A
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Anders,
 
 What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, 
 the French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have 
 numbers on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, 
 is not supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still 
 work. In that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 
> 2.
> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
> stated?
> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
> I keep you all posted if interested.
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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Scott Granados]

Safari is much improved in 10.11.1 along with voice over stability in general.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After my initial upgrade to  El Capitan and downgrade I am wondering if some 
> of the bugs in VoiceOver have been addressed?
> 
> I spend a lot of time in Safari and was following the thread discussing 
> VoiceOver issues a couple of weeks ago.
> 
> Things work pretty well after downgrading so don't want to risk things 
> specially as I only have one machine.
> 
> Thanks for any insight.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
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An Update on Cereproc and El Capitan

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi all. I just received word from Graham Leary of Cereproc. This is what he has 
written to me.
Hi Shawn,

The Apple Speech API has changed in El Capitan and Voiceover seems to be 
sometimes writing the speech out to disk rather than playing out the audio.  
Other apps seem to work correctly, but Voiceover is not working correctly.  
We're going to keep looking into this.

So basically, bottom line is, because Apple changed the speech API in El 
Capitan, Cereproc can no longer be used with Voiceover.

Shawn
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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external 
drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.

Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs that 
are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because I’ve done 
it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That includes activities, hotspots 
and Safari text editing.  And I’m absolutely not at liberty to say that, alas, 
even the latest beta (which you should be running, if you can) is not immune, 
although thank goodness it does appear the fixes are coming for some of the 
reported issues so somebody is actually listening.

My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS.  I am 
saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers.  The end 
days are almost upon us. :)

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Re: Current build of El Capitan.

[Scott Granados]

I hate to say it but I’ve tried windows 10 recently as well and it’s not as bad 
as I was hoping.:)  Maybe someone at Microsoft listened although i find this 
unlikely.  I’m chalking it up to the monkeys on typewriters theory.  If you 
have enough microsoft engineers pounding on keyboards eventually one of them 
will write a decent OS.  (or something like that)

As a question about OS X?  Is it possible to run OS X in a virtual machine?  
Assuming I’m using apple hardware so I’m compliant with the license can I 
create an OSX VM say under fusion?  Never tried and wonder if you had since we 
were talking about alternate boot locations.

Thank you
Scott


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> 
> Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external 
> drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.
> 
> Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs 
> that are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because 
> I’ve done it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That includes 
> activities, hotspots and Safari text editing.  And I’m absolutely not at 
> liberty to say that, alas, even the latest beta (which you should be running, 
> if you can) is not immune, although thank goodness it does appear the fixes 
> are coming for some of the reported issues so somebody is actually listening.
> 
> My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
> experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS.  I am 
> saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers.  The end 
> days are almost upon us. :)
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RE: Current build of El Capitan.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Scott,

I just had to chime in on this one.

I am using Windows 10, with the latest version of Jaws, and am absolutely 
loving it.  

The only thing is, there is much tweaking that must be done in order to prevent 
the covert sharing of information with Microsoft but, once those tweaks are 
made, I think it the best version of Windows, yet.

Having said that, I am absolutely loving El Capitan much more than I ever liked 
Yosemite.  

Of course, as with almost everything in life, it is a matter of opinion.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Current build of El Capitan.

I hate to say it but I’ve tried windows 10 recently as well and it’s not as bad 
as I was hoping.:)  Maybe someone at Microsoft listened although i find this 
unlikely.  I’m chalking it up to the monkeys on typewriters theory.  If you 
have enough microsoft engineers pounding on keyboards eventually one of them 
will write a decent OS.  (or something like that)

As a question about OS X?  Is it possible to run OS X in a virtual machine?  
Assuming I’m using apple hardware so I’m compliant with the license can I 
create an OSX VM say under fusion?  Never tried and wonder if you had since we 
were talking about alternate boot locations.

Thank you
Scott


> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Remember, nothing prevents you installing a copy of El Capitan on an external 
> drive or in a separate partition if you’d like to.
> 
> Having said this, my recommendation still stands: stay put. There are bugs 
> that are well-known, which have been reported to Apple (and I know because 
> I’ve done it) and which have simply not been fixed.  That includes 
> activities, hotspots and Safari text editing.  And I’m absolutely not at 
> liberty to say that, alas, even the latest beta (which you should be running, 
> if you can) is not immune, although thank goodness it does appear the fixes 
> are coming for some of the reported issues so somebody is actually listening.
> 
> My MacBook Pro, which is my secondary machine on which I do all my 
> experimenting while I’m home, now has Windows 8.1 on it as its only OS.  I am 
> saving up for the latest upgrades to all my Windows screen readers.  The end 
> days are almost upon us. :)
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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Ditto; started with version 3.  Things have only got better.  Any comments I 
might make about the product are pertinent to the product as a whole and not 
its accessibility, although there were bugs in prior releases which meant, for 
example, that one could not use snapshots requiring use of the command line.  
And the pricing or limited configuration options (compared to Workstation or 
VBox) are things I’m largely prepared to deal with, especially since I have 
access to Workstation also.

Yeah, it’s nice, really.  Just keep your wallet handy. :)

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Re: An Update on Cereproc and El Capitan

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

I'd accept that response if Cereproc had actually worked well to begin with and 
worsened with the El Capitan upgrade. Issue is that it hasn't. I'd be more 
accepting of that response if I was seeing that consistent behavior across 
applications using these APIs, but I'm not. Changes are made to these APIs 
since Yosemite, sure, but voices  incompatible with El Capitan work fine when 
being used by VoiceOVer. At least, some do.

Cereproc has never actually worked well at all for me, and I received the same 
response years ago when I reported the problems I was having. I suspect it's 
just their implementation that doesn't work well with VOiceOver more than 
anything else. This can be said for other voices as well, like Cepstral.

Nicolai
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I just received word from Graham Leary of Cereproc. This is what he 
> has written to me.
> Hi Shawn,
> 
> The Apple Speech API has changed in El Capitan and Voiceover seems to be 
> sometimes writing the speech out to disk rather than playing out the audio.  
> Other apps seem to work correctly, but Voiceover is not working correctly.  
> We're going to keep looking into this.
> 
> So basically, bottom line is, because Apple changed the speech API in El 
> Capitan, Cereproc can no longer be used with Voiceover.
> 
> Shawn
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Re: clean my mac on El Capitan

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Assuming the remaining hardware is good, have you done resets on the SMC and 
PRAM for your model?  Certainly the former is likely to help with fan problems. 
 You should be able to disconnect all power to the machine, wait a few moments, 
then reconnect it.

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