have lost the ability to tag people on facebook using the latest mac OS and voiceover

[Michael Marshall]

hey all,
in the days before the latest mac OS i could go on the main Facebook site and 
tag people in posts by typing @ and then the first few letters of there name, i 
could then Arrow down with quicknav off and double click the person to tag.
Recently I have lost the ability to perform this function witch to me is a very 
serious problem.
does anyone have any suggestions? i am using the latest beater update.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Michael

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Re: VoiceOver does not speak images in the UIImagePickerController

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I think what Ben means is, with some of the apps which produce source code 
based on option you select from a front end UI, the code can be sometimes 
rendered a bit wrongly.  This is why I always encourage devs to write their own 
code rather than letting an app do it for them.

Anyway, it's just a thought, but I agree with Ben, this is definitely a 
question worth asking.
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  From: Ben J. Bloomgren 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 1:43 AM
  Subject: Re: VoiceOver does not speak images in the UIImagePickerController


  Are you coding this app by hand using X-Code, or are you using an app which 
will produce the code for you? I don't know very much about programming, but 
I've heard that the way that the source code is rendered can make things go 
screwy.

  Ben
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 04:21
Subject: Re: VoiceOver does not speak images in the UIImagePickerController


Wow!
That could be a great resource for getting help. I was hoping something 
like the list should exist. :)


Thank you. 
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone

On 19-Mar-2016, at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:


  Hello, 


  pole Apple maintains an accessibility mailing list whereApple employees 
and developers can discuss such issues.


  I suggest you look at the archive and perhaps post to that list. Most of 
the people on this list are VoiceOver users.


  Messages would be sent to: accessibility-...@lists.apple.com
  I am not sure if adding the standard -request would be how to subscribe, 
or if you need to find the web page associated with the list.






  Best wishes,

  Jonathan





On 18 Mar 2016, at 05:56, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:


Hi list, 
I am trying to develop an app. a part of the functionality is that the 
user should be able to select a photo stored on the device. For this, I am 
using the UIImagePickerController. There are 2 issues I noticed when running 
the project on my iPhone.
1. After I hit the button and grant the app access to my photos, I am 
presented with different options (selfies, etc) each of these options is being 
spoken as an edit field. How do I fix this?
2. After I choose a category say, selfies, VoiceOver does not give any 
output. When I verified with cited assistance, I was told that the user is 
presented with a grid of photos from which he or she can select. My expected 
behaviour is that VoiceOver speaks details of each photo (date taken, etc) as 
the user swipes or explores the screen (similar to most apps that ask us to 
select photos).


As I am using a default UI element, should it not be accessible 
already? How do I make this view accessible?


I posted this earlier but was not sure if it reached the list. I am 
sorry if this post is a duplicate of my original.
Thank you and best regards,
Venkatesh


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Re: VoiceOver does not speak images in the UIImagePickerController

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Are you coding this app by hand using X-Code, or are you using an app which 
will produce the code for you? I don't know very much about programming, but 
I've heard that the way that the source code is rendered can make things go 
screwy.

Ben
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  Subject: Re: VoiceOver does not speak images in the UIImagePickerController


  Wow!
  That could be a great resource for getting help. I was hoping something like 
the list should exist. :)


  Thank you.
  Regards,
  Venkatesh Potluri
  Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 19-Mar-2016, at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:


Hello,


pole Apple maintains an accessibility mailing list whereApple employees and 
developers can discuss such issues.


I suggest you look at the archive and perhaps post to that list. Most of 
the people on this list are VoiceOver users.


Messages would be sent to: accessibility-...@lists.apple.com
I am not sure if adding the standard -request would be how to subscribe, or 
if you need to find the web page associated with the list.






Best wishes,

Jonathan





  On 18 Mar 2016, at 05:56, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:


  Hi list,
  I am trying to develop an app. a part of the functionality is that the 
user should be able to select a photo stored on the device. For this, I am 
using the UIImagePickerController. There are 2 issues I noticed when running 
the project on my iPhone.
  1. After I hit the button and grant the app access to my photos, I am 
presented with different options (selfies, etc) each of these options is being 
spoken as an edit field. How do I fix this?
  2. After I choose a category say, selfies, VoiceOver does not give any 
output. When I verified with cited assistance, I was told that the user is 
presented with a grid of photos from which he or she can select. My expected 
behaviour is that VoiceOver speaks details of each photo (date taken, etc) as 
the user swipes or explores the screen (similar to most apps that ask us to 
select photos).


  As I am using a default UI element, should it not be accessible already? 
How do I make this view accessible?


  I posted this earlier but was not sure if it reached the list. I am sorry 
if this post is a duplicate of my original.
  Thank you and best regards,
  Venkatesh


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Re: Download error in iTunes

[George Cham]

Yes,
And just to be safe, I'm adding all music to iTunes again.


George,

  Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Mar 2016, at 4:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> OK, the billion and one dollar obvious question:  Have you tried restarting 
> the Ipad?  I'm sure you have, but I have to ask anyway.
> 
> Chris.
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Cham
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> 
> Just says song name   error 0pecent 
> 
> George 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 3:00 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> George, does it just simply say there was an error, or is it more specific?  
>> Does it maybe give an error code number or anything we could crossreference?
>> 
>> Chris.
>>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:58 PM, George Cham  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I have songs in iTunes on the iPad ,  that wont download.
>>> I keep getting  there is a error .
>>> How do i clear if 
>>> 
>>> George 
>>> 
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Changing e-mail from All Messages to most recent 150 in Pop3 Gmail account on iPhone 6 running iOS9.X

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

I’m sorry if the subject line isn’t clear.  It used to be that my Gmail 
account, which is a Pop3 on my iPhone, used to only download the most 
recent 150 messages, or so.  When I upgraded from my iPhone 4, running iOS 
6.x, to my iPhone 6, running iOS 8 and then 9, my Pop3 account changed so 
that tens of thousands of e-mails were downloaded to my phone.  Space is 
not an issue.  but I really wish I could change this so that it works the 
way my iPhone 4 used to.  that is, I only want 150 messages, or less, on my 
phone unless I choose to “see more.”  Can this be changed?

Sorry if I already posted this.  
thanks,
Kevin

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RE: Screen Brightness default

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I echo Ben's last statement here, E.T. I'm not doubting you either, but can you 
be a bit more specific?

Steps taken:

1.  Either press FN+F1 until you reach 0%, or go to system prefs, display, 
interact with the slider, and VO+Down arrow all the way to 0 percent.  
Sidenote, I'm doing this with the screen curtain disabled.

2.  Reboot the machine.  Perform these two steps either with the charger 
plugged in or not.  It doesn't matter.

Result:  The screen returns to brightness level 100% upon successful reboot 
once OSX loads.

Expected result:  the screen should stay at the percentage set in the above two 
steps once rebooted.

I see an option under system prefs when plugged in, or when on battery to 
slightly dim the display, but that's not what I'm attempting to do.  I'm 
literally wishing to keep the exact same brightness level regardless, once the 
system fully restarts and is fully booted.

Thank you for trying to help me trouble shoot this; your help is appreciated.

Chris.
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Brightness default

I was able to reproduce Chris's problem. Neither the slider under system 
preferences, displays, nor the energy settings does this. Maybe with newer 
systems, it sticks. But with older macs, such as my Mid 2010 MacBook, and 
Chris's Late 2012 MacBook Pro, it does it identically the same whether you use 
the function keys or the system prefs slider. It resets the brightness to 100%. 
I also tested this on battery power, and it doesn't do it. The energy setting 
would just dim the screen slightly, whereas we're trying to literally maintain 
the exact screen brightness percentage after reboot.

We're not doubting you, neither are we trying to make you look incompetent or 
anything. We're just stumped.

Thanks,

Ben
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From: "E.T." 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 21:23
Subject: Re: Screen Brightness default


System preferences, Displays.

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On 3/20/2016 8:59 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I really haven’t ever thought about this until now, but when I boot my 
> macbook, it is defaulting to 100% brightness regardless what I do.  If I 
> set the screen to 0 brightness then either shutdown and later reboot, or I 
> just simply restart without fully shutting down, doesn’t matter, as soon 
> as OSX comes back up, it’s back at 100, making me again have to hold down 
> FN+F1 until it’s at 0.  Don’t get me wrong.  This is a very very very 
> minor annoyance, and it’s nothing I am terribly concerned about, but I’m 
> just wonderring if there, even with the aid of a 3rd party app, might be a 
> way to make it stick.
>
> This is the official, non-beta build of El Capitan on a late 2012 macbook 
> Pro 13 inch non retina system with a superdrive.
>
> Chris.
>

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RE: Download error in iTunes

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, the billion and one dollar obvious question:  Have you tried restarting the 
Ipad?  I'm sure you have, but I have to ask anyway.

Chris.

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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Download error in iTunes

Just says song name   error 0pecent 

George 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Mar 2016, at 3:00 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> George, does it just simply say there was an error, or is it more specific?  
> Does it maybe give an error code number or anything we could crossreference?
> 
> Chris.
>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:58 PM, George Cham  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I have songs in iTunes on the iPad ,  that wont download.
>> I keep getting  there is a error .
>> How do i clear if 
>> 
>> George 
>> 
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Re: Screen Brightness default

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

I was able to reproduce Chris's problem. Neither the slider under system 
preferences, displays, nor the energy settings does this. Maybe with newer 
systems, it sticks. But with older macs, such as my Mid 2010 MacBook, and 
Chris's Late 2012 MacBook Pro, it does it identically the same whether you 
use the function keys or the system prefs slider. It resets the brightness 
to 100%. I also tested this on battery power, and it doesn't do it. The 
energy setting would just dim the screen slightly, whereas we're trying to 
literally maintain the exact screen brightness percentage after reboot.


We're not doubting you, neither are we trying to make you look incompetent 
or anything. We're just stumped.


Thanks,

Ben
- Original Message - 
From: "E.T." 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 21:23
Subject: Re: Screen Brightness default


   System preferences, Displays.

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On 3/20/2016 8:59 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

Guys,

I really haven’t ever thought about this until now, but when I boot my 
macbook, it is defaulting to 100% brightness regardless what I do.  If I 
set the screen to 0 brightness then either shutdown and later reboot, or I 
just simply restart without fully shutting down, doesn’t matter, as soon 
as OSX comes back up, it’s back at 100, making me again have to hold down 
FN+F1 until it’s at 0.  Don’t get me wrong.  This is a very very very 
minor annoyance, and it’s nothing I am terribly concerned about, but I’m 
just wonderring if there, even with the aid of a 3rd party app, might be a 
way to make it stick.


This is the official, non-beta build of El Capitan on a late 2012 macbook 
Pro 13 inch non retina system with a superdrive.


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Re: Screen Brightness default

[E.T.]

   System preferences, Displays.

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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/20/2016 8:59 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

Guys,

I really haven’t ever thought about this until now, but when I boot my macbook, 
it is defaulting to 100% brightness regardless what I do.  If I set the screen 
to 0 brightness then either shutdown and later reboot, or I just simply restart 
without fully shutting down, doesn’t matter, as soon as OSX comes back up, it’s 
back at 100, making me again have to hold down FN+F1 until it’s at 0.  Don’t 
get me wrong.  This is a very very very minor annoyance, and it’s nothing I am 
terribly concerned about, but I’m just wonderring if there, even with the aid 
of a 3rd party app, might be a way to make it stick.

This is the official, non-beta build of El Capitan on a late 2012 macbook Pro 
13 inch non retina system with a superdrive.

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Re: Download error in iTunes

[George Cham]

Just says song name   error 0pecent 

George 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Mar 2016, at 3:00 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
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> George, does it just simply say there was an error, or is it more specific?  
> Does it maybe give an error code number or anything we could crossreference?
> 
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>> Hi, I have songs in iTunes on the iPad ,  that wont download.
>> I keep getting  there is a error .
>> How do i clear if 
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Re: Download error in iTunes

[Chris Gilland]

George, does it just simply say there was an error, or is it more specific?  
Does it maybe give an error code number or anything we could crossreference?

Chris.
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:58 PM, George Cham  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have songs in iTunes on the iPad ,  that wont download.
> I keep getting  there is a error .
> How do i clear if 
> 
> George 
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Screen Brightness default

[Chris Gilland]

Guys,

I really haven’t ever thought about this until now, but when I boot my macbook, 
it is defaulting to 100% brightness regardless what I do.  If I set the screen 
to 0 brightness then either shutdown and later reboot, or I just simply restart 
without fully shutting down, doesn’t matter, as soon as OSX comes back up, it’s 
back at 100, making me again have to hold down FN+F1 until it’s at 0.  Don’t 
get me wrong.  This is a very very very minor annoyance, and it’s nothing I am 
terribly concerned about, but I’m just wonderring if there, even with the aid 
of a 3rd party app, might be a way to make it stick.

This is the official, non-beta build of El Capitan on a late 2012 macbook Pro 
13 inch non retina system with a superdrive.

Chris.

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Download error in iTunes

[George Cham]

Hi, I have songs in iTunes on the iPad ,  that wont download.
I keep getting  there is a error .
How do i clear if 

George 

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Re: Is it Antimosquito, or is it my iPhone?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, Ben, the app isn't compatible any longer from what I hear.  I might be 
able to find us an alternative though.

BTW, call me when you can.
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Is it Antimosquito, or is it my iPhone?


  What does this app do exactly?

On Mar 20, 2016, at 7:35 AM, venky...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
I checked the link.
The issue could be due to the fact that the app supports iOS 3.0 or later. 
A lot has changed since then and I'm assuming some of the Apis The developer 
may have used May not be supported by more recent versions of iOS. 

Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone

On 19-Mar-2016, at 3:55 AM, ben J. Bloomgren  
wrote:


  Hi all,

  It's another gorgeous day in the Valley of the Sun, and I was thinking 
about the oncoming need for mosquito repellent.

  Back when I had my iPhone Five, I used an app called Anti mosquito 3.1. 
It's by a developer named Dong Wook Kim. Here's the app link:

  Anti Mosquito 3.1 by Dong-Wook Kim
  https://appsto.re/us/dAq3r.i

  Oddly, however, when I open it, it throws me back onto the home screen. 
When I look in the app switcher, it's still there. Is my iPhone 6 S doing 
something untoward, or is the app as buggy as a Florida summer?

  Thanks,

  Ben

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Re: potential problem or just a fluke

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You know, since El Capitan, I've not really needed to do it, so I'm not 
completely sure.  Things have slightly changed from Yosemite to now. 
Hopefully someone can chime in.

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: potential problem or just a fluke


Interesting question. How would one trouble shoot file permissions?
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Hmm.

I wonder if maybe there is a corrupted PList file which is causing this.

Have you thought of maybe trying to see if there are some issues with file 
permissions?  I know that El Capitan does pretty well with making sure 
things are running smoothely, but it's definitely worth considerring over 
all.

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- Original Message - From: "Jenine Stanley" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: potential problem or just a fluke


I’m having an issue and I have no idea what to look at next in the 
trouble-shooting process.


I have a MacBook Pro, mid 2012. I am having problems with Amadeus Pro. I 
am running the latest version of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro. the program 
will no longer allow me to change formats of files, completely closing the 
instant I select another format under save-as. The program also does not 
allow me to save larger files, such as anything taking longer than about 5 
minutes to record.


The SSD has plenty of space for said files, over 400gb. I’ve tried saving 
to external sources as well.


I reinstalled Amadeus Pro and that did not change any of the behaviors.

Then I installed Amadeus Pro on my iMac, 2014. It works as it always has, 
saving files in many formats without issue, allowing recording, editing 
and saving of files up to 1 hour long, etc. The iMac is running the same 
version of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro.


I did inherit the MacBook Pro but it had been so gently used that it ran 
great until very recently. I’m wondering what else to check and if this is 
a symptom of more issues with other programs. So far the other things I 
use, Fine Reader Pro, Text Edit, Pages and Mail, plus of course Safari, 
are fine, if not a tad slow.


I haven’t spoken to Apple yet about this as it initially involves a 3rd 
party program and it’s easy to shift blame.


I’ve been considering moving to the iMac anyway but my husband likes it 
for the monitor though he’s not a Mac fan…yet.


Any thoughts or processes would be hugely appreciated.
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Re: Is it Antimosquito, or is it my iPhone?

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What does this app do exactly?
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 7:35 AM, venky...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I checked the link.
> The issue could be due to the fact that the app supports iOS 3.0 or later. A 
> lot has changed since then and I'm assuming some of the Apis The developer 
> may have used May not be supported by more recent versions of iOS. 
> 
> Thank you.
> Regards,
> Venkatesh Potluri
> Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 19-Mar-2016, at 3:55 AM, ben J. Bloomgren  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> It's another gorgeous day in the Valley of the Sun, and I was thinking about 
>> the oncoming need for mosquito repellent.
>> 
>> Back when I had my iPhone Five, I used an app called Anti mosquito 3.1. It's 
>> by a developer named Dong Wook Kim. Here's the app link:
>> 
>> Anti Mosquito 3.1 by Dong-Wook Kim
>> https://appsto.re/us/dAq3r.i 
>> 
>> Oddly, however, when I open it, it throws me back onto the home screen. When 
>> I look in the app switcher, it's still there. Is my iPhone 6 S doing 
>> something untoward, or is the app as buggy as a Florida summer?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ben
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Re: potential problem or just a fluke

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Interesting question. How would one trouble shoot file permissions?
Jenine Stanley
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> On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I wonder if maybe there is a corrupted PList file which is causing this.
> 
> Have you thought of maybe trying to see if there are some issues with file 
> permissions?  I know that El Capitan does pretty well with making sure things 
> are running smoothely, but it's definitely worth considerring over all.
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> - Original Message - From: "Jenine Stanley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:32 PM
> Subject: potential problem or just a fluke
> 
> 
> I’m having an issue and I have no idea what to look at next in the 
> trouble-shooting process.
> 
> I have a MacBook Pro, mid 2012. I am having problems with Amadeus Pro. I am 
> running the latest version of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro. the program will no 
> longer allow me to change formats of files, completely closing the instant I 
> select another format under save-as. The program also does not allow me to 
> save larger files, such as anything taking longer than about 5 minutes to 
> record.
> 
> The SSD has plenty of space for said files, over 400gb. I’ve tried saving to 
> external sources as well.
> 
> I reinstalled Amadeus Pro and that did not change any of the behaviors.
> 
> Then I installed Amadeus Pro on my iMac, 2014. It works as it always has, 
> saving files in many formats without issue, allowing recording, editing and 
> saving of files up to 1 hour long, etc. The iMac is running the same version 
> of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro.
> 
> I did inherit the MacBook Pro but it had been so gently used that it ran 
> great until very recently. I’m wondering what else to check and if this is a 
> symptom of more issues with other programs. So far the other things I use, 
> Fine Reader Pro, Text Edit, Pages and Mail, plus of course Safari, are fine, 
> if not a tad slow.
> 
> I haven’t spoken to Apple yet about this as it initially involves a 3rd party 
> program and it’s easy to shift blame.
> 
> I’ve been considering moving to the iMac anyway but my husband likes it for 
> the monitor though he’s not a Mac fan…yet.
> 
> Any thoughts or processes would be hugely appreciated.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: potential problem or just a fluke

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hmm.

I wonder if maybe there is a corrupted PList file which is causing this.

Have you thought of maybe trying to see if there are some issues with file 
permissions?  I know that El Capitan does pretty well with making sure 
things are running smoothely, but it's definitely worth considerring over 
all.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jenine Stanley" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: potential problem or just a fluke


I’m having an issue and I have no idea what to look at next in the 
trouble-shooting process.


I have a MacBook Pro, mid 2012. I am having problems with Amadeus Pro. I am 
running the latest version of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro. the program will 
no longer allow me to change formats of files, completely closing the 
instant I select another format under save-as. The program also does not 
allow me to save larger files, such as anything taking longer than about 5 
minutes to record.


The SSD has plenty of space for said files, over 400gb. I’ve tried saving to 
external sources as well.


I reinstalled Amadeus Pro and that did not change any of the behaviors.

Then I installed Amadeus Pro on my iMac, 2014. It works as it always has, 
saving files in many formats without issue, allowing recording, editing and 
saving of files up to 1 hour long, etc. The iMac is running the same version 
of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro.


I did inherit the MacBook Pro but it had been so gently used that it ran 
great until very recently. I’m wondering what else to check and if this is a 
symptom of more issues with other programs. So far the other things I use, 
Fine Reader Pro, Text Edit, Pages and Mail, plus of course Safari, are fine, 
if not a tad slow.


I haven’t spoken to Apple yet about this as it initially involves a 3rd 
party program and it’s easy to shift blame.


I’ve been considering moving to the iMac anyway but my husband likes it for 
the monitor though he’s not a Mac fan…yet.


Any thoughts or processes would be hugely appreciated.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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potential problem or just a fluke

[Jenine Stanley]

I’m having an issue and I have no idea what to look at next in the 
trouble-shooting process. 

I have a MacBook Pro, mid 2012. I am having problems with Amadeus Pro. I am 
running the latest version of El Capitan and Amadeus Pro. the program will no 
longer allow me to change formats of files, completely closing the instant I 
select another format under save-as. The program also does not allow me to save 
larger files, such as anything taking longer than about 5 minutes to record. 

The SSD has plenty of space for said files, over 400gb. I’ve tried saving to 
external sources as well. 

I reinstalled Amadeus Pro and that did not change any of the behaviors. 

Then I installed Amadeus Pro on my iMac, 2014. It works as it always has, 
saving files in many formats without issue, allowing recording, editing and 
saving of files up to 1 hour long, etc. The iMac is running the same version of 
El Capitan and Amadeus Pro. 

I did inherit the MacBook Pro but it had been so gently used that it ran great 
until very recently. I’m wondering what else to check and if this is a symptom 
of more issues with other programs. So far the other things I use, Fine Reader 
Pro, Text Edit, Pages and Mail, plus of course Safari, are fine, if not a tad 
slow. 

I haven’t spoken to Apple yet about this as it initially involves a 3rd party 
program and it’s easy to shift blame. 

I’ve been considering moving to the iMac anyway but my husband likes it for the 
monitor though he’s not a Mac fan…yet. 

Any thoughts or processes would be hugely appreciated. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: blue tooth headsets

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Why not look into the Aftershokz lineup?  I swear by mine!
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- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets


Yes, the edge is still the best headset in my opinion.  It amazes me how 
long both headsets have been out with no replacement.



On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Scott,

I've not tried the Plantronics legend but know it was a great device back 
in  the day,


Would you still put it above the Edge?


And I used one of the early era devices but at that point it's 
accessibility wasn't great. Still it was an excellent device,

I just need to stop being so hard on headsets.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados

Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 4:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets

Max, your brother is misinformed.  Bluetooth is a series of specifications 
that are standardized so aside some special features in general most 
things work pretty well with each other.  There are headsets in general 
though that work better than others.  This is one of the favorite topics 
of mine and also the moderator’s Mark I believe.


In my mind there are two ways to go and there have been the 2 same players 
on top for a while now.  There is the plantronics legend and the era by 
jawbone.  The Jawbone is the most stylish / smallest headset and the 
plantronics is the largest most utilitarian of the two.  Depends on what 
your goal is.  If you want to look cool, have good noise reduction, medium 
battery life and have the same toys as the cool kids buy a Jawbone.  If 
you want your headset to work in all conditions, want fantastic noise 
reduction, don’t care about the fact there’s a boom microphone and you 
need great battery life then the plantronics voyager pro legend is the way 
to go.  Hands down the plastrons works the best it’s just whether your 
concern is mostly function or you want some style.


How’s that?

BTW I use the voyager pro legend almost exclusively now although I carry 
both.  I find the plantronics just more stable and for my professional 
calls and work environment the only option.



On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:53 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
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hello; I'm wanting to buy a blue tooth headset to go with my iPhone. my 
brother said that when he looked online he heard that a lot of them don't 
work with the iPhone. so what would you all recommend? I may just need 
the headphones because today i did a Skype call using my iPhone and the 
guy was really impressed with the quality. thanks for your help, max


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Re: blue tooth headsets

[Scott Granados]

Yes, the edge is still the best headset in my opinion.  It amazes me how long 
both headsets have been out with no replacement.

> On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I've not tried the Plantronics legend but know it was a great device back in  
> the day,
> 
> Would you still put it above the Edge?
> 
> 
> And I used one of the early era devices but at that point it's accessibility 
> wasn't great. Still it was an excellent device, 
> I just need to stop being so hard on headsets.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 4:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
> 
> Max, your brother is misinformed.  Bluetooth is a series of specifications 
> that are standardized so aside some special features in general most things 
> work pretty well with each other.  There are headsets in general though that 
> work better than others.  This is one of the favorite topics of mine and also 
> the moderator’s Mark I believe.
> 
> In my mind there are two ways to go and there have been the 2 same players on 
> top for a while now.  There is the plantronics legend and the era by jawbone. 
>  The Jawbone is the most stylish / smallest headset and the plantronics is 
> the largest most utilitarian of the two.  Depends on what your goal is.  If 
> you want to look cool, have good noise reduction, medium battery life and 
> have the same toys as the cool kids buy a Jawbone.  If you want your headset 
> to work in all conditions, want fantastic noise reduction, don’t care about 
> the fact there’s a boom microphone and you need great battery life then the 
> plantronics voyager pro legend is the way to go.  Hands down the plastrons 
> works the best it’s just whether your concern is mostly function or you want 
> some style.
> 
> How’s that?
> 
> BTW I use the voyager pro legend almost exclusively now although I carry 
> both.  I find the plantronics just more stable and for my professional calls 
> and work environment the only option.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:53 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> hello; I'm wanting to buy a blue tooth headset to go with my iPhone. my 
>> brother said that when he looked online he heard that a lot of them don't 
>> work with the iPhone. so what would you all recommend? I may just need the 
>> headphones because today i did a Skype call using my iPhone and the guy was 
>> really impressed with the quality. thanks for your help, max 
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I think voiger edge is better 
> On 19-Mar-2016, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I've not tried the Plantronics legend but know it was a great device back in  
> the day,
> 
> Would you still put it above the Edge?
> 
> 
> And I used one of the early era devices but at that point it's accessibility 
> wasn't great. Still it was an excellent device, 
> I just need to stop being so hard on headsets.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 4:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
> 
> Max, your brother is misinformed.  Bluetooth is a series of specifications 
> that are standardized so aside some special features in general most things 
> work pretty well with each other.  There are headsets in general though that 
> work better than others.  This is one of the favorite topics of mine and also 
> the moderator’s Mark I believe.
> 
> In my mind there are two ways to go and there have been the 2 same players on 
> top for a while now.  There is the plantronics legend and the era by jawbone. 
>  The Jawbone is the most stylish / smallest headset and the plantronics is 
> the largest most utilitarian of the two.  Depends on what your goal is.  If 
> you want to look cool, have good noise reduction, medium battery life and 
> have the same toys as the cool kids buy a Jawbone.  If you want your headset 
> to work in all conditions, want fantastic noise reduction, don’t care about 
> the fact there’s a boom microphone and you need great battery life then the 
> plantronics voyager pro legend is the way to go.  Hands down the plastrons 
> works the best it’s just whether your concern is mostly function or you want 
> some style.
> 
> How’s that?
> 
> BTW I use the voyager pro legend almost exclusively now although I carry 
> both.  I find the plantronics just more stable and for my professional calls 
> and work environment the only option.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:53 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> hello; I'm wanting to buy a blue tooth headset to go with my iPhone. my 
>> brother said that when he looked online he heard that a lot of them don't 
>> work with the iPhone. so what would you all recommend? I may just need the 
>> headphones because today i did a Skype call using my iPhone and the guy was 
>> really impressed with the quality. thanks for your help, max 
>> 
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El Capitan here

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi,

My only big issue left that i know of is: at log in, how do i route voice over 
speech to the internal speakers of the iMac? At login the speech goes through 
the hifi system via usb to amplifier. I want voice over speech through the 
internal iMac speakers at log in.

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Re: Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[Marie Lyons]

How does that work with banks? I know usually the bank checks have a routing # 
as well as the account #. It would be very convenient. I don’t know how many 
people have had me rewrite a check that the teller couldn’t read.

Marie Lyons
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 2:21 PM, William Gallik  wrote:
> 
> A couple of things I'd like to add in this thread.
> First, I believe the main advantage of checkbook pro over just Padilla 
> checkbook is that, in managing several accounts, transactions can be recorded 
> across those accounts. For example; account A has A $100 withdrawal that 
> is deposited into account B. As I understand it, that can be a single 
> transaction appropriately recorded to both accounts.
> 
> Second, after being in contact with the developers of checkbook pro I have 
> been assured that they intend to introduce the ability to print checks from 
> their app.
> 
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Re: Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[E.T.]

Bill,
   In the Pro version, are those transfers between accounts done 
automatically once you set them up? I do not do many of those but would 
lile not to interact with them at all. In the old checkbook program on 
Windows. its automatic. I am still getting used to this one so may just 
need more time.


   I looked at the Pro features and am not sure if I need that.

   I so rarely write checks but it might be time to rethink that.

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On 3/20/2016 11:21 AM, William Gallik wrote:

A couple of things I'd like to add in this thread.
First, I believe the main advantage of checkbook pro over just Padilla 
checkbook is that, in managing several accounts, transactions can be recorded 
across those accounts. For example; account A has A $100 withdrawal that is 
deposited into account B. As I understand it, that can be a single 
transaction appropriately recorded to both accounts.

Second, after being in contact with the developers of checkbook pro I have been 
assured that they intend to introduce the ability to print checks from their 
app.

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Re: Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[E.T.]

   There is no free version, what you saw was the trial version which 
allows up to I think either 10 or 100 entries.


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On 3/20/2016 11:11 AM, Marie Lyons wrote:

I didn’t use the free version as I heard there was a limit on the amount of 
transactions. I really like checkbook pro.

Marie Lyons

On Mar 20, 2016, at 2:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   I do not have the Pro version but am curious if anyone got the non Pro 
version then upgraded and why.

   The more I use this app the more I like it. So far I have not run into any 
issues but am sure they exist. One thing I find is I need to use QuickNav in 
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Re: Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[William Gallik]

A couple of things I'd like to add in this thread.
First, I believe the main advantage of checkbook pro over just Padilla 
checkbook is that, in managing several accounts, transactions can be recorded 
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Re: Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[Marie Lyons]

I didn’t use the free version as I heard there was a limit on the amount of 
transactions. I really like checkbook pro.

Marie Lyons
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 2:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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> version then upgraded and why.
> 
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Re: How to emulate numeric keyboard in a Macbook air keyboard?

[Daniela Rubio]

Thanks Ane!

I am an old mac user as well, and that’s what I was remembering from ages ago. 
But now, I think that the Number Keypad will be the option. The problem is we 
need a bluetooth one, because the USB is not an option, because we need our 
ports free.

Thanks again!

Daniela Rubio

> El 20 mar 2016, a las 18:50, Anne Robertson  escribió:
> 
> Hello Daniela,
> 
> Before the Intel Macs, there used to be a Numloc key on a laptop keyboard, 
> but this is no longer the case. There may be a utility out there somewhere to 
> do this, but I don’t know of any.
> 
> External numeric keypads aren’t expensive and would do the job.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 Mar 2016, at 17:19, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
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>> Hello all!
>> 
>> In Logic Pro X, there are some commands that are easy to acces with a 
>> numeric keyboard; but if we are using a laptop, is there a way to convert a 
>> part of the keyboard into a numeric keyboard temporarily? I thought there 
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>> 
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Checkbook/Checkbook Pro

[E.T.]

   I do not have the Pro version but am curious if anyone got the non 
Pro version then upgraded and why.


   The more I use this app the more I like it. So far I have not run 
into any issues but am sure they exist. One thing I find is I need to 
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Re: How to emulate numeric keyboard in a Macbook air keyboard?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Daniela,

Before the Intel Macs, there used to be a Numloc key on a laptop keyboard, but 
this is no longer the case. There may be a utility out there somewhere to do 
this, but I don’t know of any.

External numeric keypads aren’t expensive and would do the job.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Hello all!
> 
> In Logic Pro X, there are some commands that are easy to acces with a numeric 
> keyboard; but if we are using a laptop, is there a way to convert a part of 
> the keyboard into a numeric keyboard temporarily? I thought there was a way, 
> but I can’t remember! 
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> Can somebody give me a hand please?
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: Automating Macintosh book.

[-]

Include me on your new list please.


On Sun, 20 Mar 2016, Jonathan Cohn wrote:


Currently only Scott has replied to this message. We have decided to go off 
list with this discussion. So if you are interested in participating please 
send me a direct e-mail.

Obviously for copy right information, I would not feel comfortable discussing 
details on list, but discoveries along the way of which tools are VO usable and 
probably a summary of how much additional work a VO user would need will be 
provided to the list.


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On 19 Mar 2016, at 10:31, Scott Berry  wrote:

Hi Jonothan,

I would certainly be interested.  I think it would be good to create a separate 
list.



On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn > wrote:

Hello Take Control books has a 50% off sale this weekend, and I was considering 
purchasing ?Take Control  of Automating Your Mac?.
https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/automating 


I also believe their books are available via bookshare for those who have that 
available.

In any case, I was thinking it would be quite interesting to have a discussion 
where we review the book and determine any adjustments needed to make the 
techniques work with VoiceOver.

If I did this:
1. Who would be interested.
2. Should the discussion be a thread on this list or should we create a 
separate   group?
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Re: tips for using Vocalizer voices

[Blee Blat]

Well, if it matters I have 8 GB of RAM and they still respond slower than Alex 
or Fred or others on this macbook pro so i doubt RAM or CPU is the issue at 
all. Pity there aren't more mechanical sounding responsive voices.

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How to emulate numeric keyboard in a Macbook air keyboard?

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello all!

In Logic Pro X, there are some commands that are easy to acces with a numeric 
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Re: Cleaning IPhone screen, perhaps an obvious question

[Seyoon Choi]

Oh, I see. Well, I usually try to get as much dust off of my screen with a dry 
microfiber cloth that I mentioned earlier and avoid using any wet wipes, etc, 
but again, all of this probably comes down to your personal preference, but I 
don’t think any harm will be done either way if you are aware of the coating 
that I mentioned.

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> On Mar 16, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I usually use the iKlear moistened wipes for cleaning screens.
> What’s the difference you might ask?
> to me it’s not only the amount of moisture as these have less and what liquid 
> is used dries almost instantly. It’s also tailor made not to conflict with 
> the coating others have mentioned. I would think that baby wipes given their 
> original intended purpose would have more liquid present on them than other 
> sorts of moistened cloths for the stated purpose.
> I also only go to them as a last resort if there’s a speck of dirt or 
> something I can feel that a dry microfiber cloth doesn’t disperse.
> I hope that helps.
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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> Subject: Cleaning IPhone screen, perhaps an obvious question
>  
> This probably to most of you is gonna seem like a really dumb thing to do, 
> but I'm curious, not so much if you all think it's a good idea, as much as 
> how many of you all do this same exact thing.  I did this the other night 
> when my mom was up in my room, and she just about strangled me, saying how 
> bad of an idea it was.  Not sure why though.  I've done this now for so long, 
> and every time, it's never caused dammage.
>  
> So, here's my question.  How many of you, when your screen gets really dirty 
> will actually take a fully moisted babywipe straight from it's container, and 
> apply it to the bare screen?  These I'm using are Huggy's non scented, non 
> lotion.  They don't have powder, nor allo or anything in them.  So, I can't 
> imagine why it would be that bad.  Now, if they did? That would be another 
> story.  What do you all think.  Based on the fact they don't have any of that 
> stuff, can you see any reason why this would be a dumb move?
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Re: List View or column view

[Michael Marshall]

hey,
i used to love : column View but i find list view works better with folders 
with lots of files in them.
This is just my personal observation and admittedly i have not played with the 
settings for a wile.

Michael
> On 17 Mar 2016, at 1:37 AM, Seyoon Choi  wrote:
> 
> I usually prefer list view for most of my finder folders, though I understand 
> where you are coming from as well. I would just keep the way you use to do, 
> an if in column view I thought VO would report you if the folder that you are 
> focused in is expanded or not. I could be wrong about that, haven’t used 
> column view in awhile.
> Seyoon Choi
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>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> The title of the window will tell you which folder is active. vo-f2 (or as 
>> VO help calls it, Describe Window” 
>>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 07:45, Sandy Finley >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been trying both to see which I prefer. I like column view because 
>>> it is so easy to hit the right arrow to open a folder. I have, however, 
>>> found it harder to know precisely where I am copy' something. For instance, 
>>> I had my iCloud Drive in columns view and I wanted to drop a folder inn 
>>> there. I went to iCloud Drive and pressed right arrow to open the list of 
>>> folders. I pressed command v for paste. The contents of the clip board 
>>> ended up inside a subfolder of the cloud drive rather than as ann 
>>> additional subfolder itself. What is the best way to know where you are 
>>> copying when in column view? Or is it just as easy to do what I am doing 
>>> now, which is to fly back and forth, keeping column view mostly but switch 
>>> to list view when I want to copy?
>>> 
>>> Sandy
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Re: iPad settings navigation

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Yes.  When iPad first appeared with VoiceOver, pressing a button on the left 
side of Settings would jump you to the first focusable item on the right side; 
for example, pressing General would jump you to About, after a short click.  I 
know that is what I saw, back then.  I had to use my mother’s iPad today, and 
sure enough, it utterly doesn’t work now.  Which is a shame. :(

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tips for using Vocalizer voices

[Devin Prater]

Hi all. Are there any tips for working with the Vocalizer voices? Sometimes 
they are still unresponsive, especially the bigger ones, like Ava and Samantha. 
When I download a new voice, or even switch voices, it takes seconds for the 
new voice to load, whereas regular Mac voices, like fred, activate almost 
instantly. I have 4 gigs of ram, if that counts.
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Re: List View or column view

[Jonathan Cohn]

The title of the window will tell you which folder is active. vo-f2 (or as VO 
help calls it, Describe Window” 
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 07:45, Sandy Finley  wrote:
> 
> I have been trying both to see which I prefer. I like column view because it 
> is so easy to hit the right arrow to open a folder. I have, however, found it 
> harder to know precisely where I am copy' something. For instance, I had my 
> iCloud Drive in columns view and I wanted to drop a folder inn there. I went 
> to iCloud Drive and pressed right arrow to open the list of folders. I 
> pressed command v for paste. The contents of the clip board ended up inside a 
> subfolder of the cloud drive rather than as ann additional subfolder itself. 
> What is the best way to know where you are copying when in column view? Or is 
> it just as easy to do what I am doing now, which is to fly back and forth, 
> keeping column view mostly but switch to list view when I want to copy?
> 
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Re: Automating Macintosh book.

[Jonathan Cohn]

Currently only Scott has replied to this message. We have decided to go off 
list with this discussion. So if you are interested in participating please 
send me a direct e-mail. 

Obviously for copy right information, I would not feel comfortable discussing 
details on list, but discoveries along the way of which tools are VO usable and 
probably a summary of how much additional work a VO user would need will be 
provided to the list.


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> On 19 Mar 2016, at 10:31, Scott Berry  wrote:
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> Hi Jonothan,
> 
> I would certainly be interested.  I think it would be good to create a 
> separate list.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Take Control books has a 50% off sale this weekend, and I was 
>> considering purchasing “Take Control  of Automating Your Mac”.
>> https://www.takecontrolbooks.com/automating 
>> 
>> 
>> I also believe their books are available via bookshare for those who have 
>> that available. 
>> 
>> In any case, I was thinking it would be quite interesting to have a 
>> discussion where we review the book and determine any adjustments needed to 
>> make the techniques work with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> If I did this:
>> 1. Who would be interested.
>> 2. Should the discussion be a thread on this list or should we create a 
>> separate   group?
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>> 
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Re: blue tooth headsets

[Alex Hall]

Volume is subjective based on many factors, but at full blast I can hear the 
Aftershokz over traffic. I'm not in a city as busy as yours, though. As to 
sound leaking, they've done a lot of work in that area lately. The new Trekz 
and Bluez are supposed to practically eliminate the problem, but I have yet to 
test that claim. I hear it's much better than it was, though. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2016, at 15:31, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> The problem I have with the Aftershokz stuff is that first it leaks like a 
> sieve, and secondly they aren’t very loud.  They’re good for the TTS if you 
> turn the volume up, but a lot of recordings at normal levels just won’t go 
> that loud even if you’ve used iTunes to bump up the playback volume.  And 
> that’s important if you’re in London with lots of howling traffic.  Of course 
> the obvious countermeasure to this problem, that of plugging your ears, is 
> just as dangerous as turning the volume right up.
> 
> So I’m also wondering where to go from here, except it probably won’t be 
> Aftershokz—or if it is, it won’t be Aftershokz Sport.
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Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[Jenine Stanley]

Oh I completely agree with that app being a bargain at twice the price. 
Jenine Stanley
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> On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Great thanks, I'll have a look at that later.
> 
> I've downloaded just press to record and it's great, I can't wait to put it 
> into action during eetings at work.
> 
> 
> And as easy as it is to use and  how it works, I'd pay twice as much as it 
> cost.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 10:42 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> Oh yes, Do It Write is specifically designed to help blind people practice 
> handwriting.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jenine,
>> 
>> So that do it write is an accessible app ?
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 2:39 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> David’s correct here. It must say the letter. Mine will say “Not recognized” 
>> and I know I’ve got the phone slanted somehow. I find the larger screen area 
>> of the 6S harder to write on as I tend to slant things. I can go fairly 
>> quickly and accurately on my 5S. Also be sure you are in the middle of the 
>> screen. 
>> 
>> Not sure if this app is still in the App Store but Do It Write (note 
>> spelling of the last word) is an app that let’s you practice handwriting. It 
>> really helped me initially since it had been years since I’d written print. 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:00 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It may not be recognising your s.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:53, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 Interesting that it only works on a app for which I've got one starting 
 with that letter.
 
 I can't get it to find anything starting with S for which I've got at 
 least 6 apps sonos and spotify   aren't showing up.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
 Chittenden
 Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:52 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
 
 Whilst on the home screen, turn the rotor to handwriting. draw the first 
 letter , and then each subsequent letter, of the app name. At any time, 
 use a two-finger flick down to cycle through the matching apps. Double-tap 
 to open the selected app.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:43, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi David,
> 
> So you can use it to open apps on your device?
> 
> I didn't know that one.
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Chittenden
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> I am slow at handwriting (finger printing), so I mainly use it on the 
> homescreens to locate and open apps. I occasionally use it in messages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:01, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't fantastic 
>> I was hoping to find something that might work better and a stylus 
>> of decent quality that I can write like using a pen and paper,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. 
>> Use a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the 
>> number, or punctuation.
>> 
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Re: Is it Antimosquito, or is it my iPhone?

[venky . 92]

Hi,
I checked the link.
The issue could be due to the fact that the app supports iOS 3.0 or later. A 
lot has changed since then and I'm assuming some of the Apis The developer may 
have used May not be supported by more recent versions of iOS. 

Thank you.
Regards,
Venkatesh Potluri
Http://www.venkateshpotluri.me
Sent from my iPhone

> On 19-Mar-2016, at 3:55 AM, ben J. Bloomgren  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> It's another gorgeous day in the Valley of the Sun, and I was thinking about 
> the oncoming need for mosquito repellent.
> 
> Back when I had my iPhone Five, I used an app called Anti mosquito 3.1. It's 
> by a developer named Dong Wook Kim. Here's the app link:
> 
> Anti Mosquito 3.1 by Dong-Wook Kim
> https://appsto.re/us/dAq3r.i
> 
> Oddly, however, when I open it, it throws me back onto the home screen. When 
> I look in the app switcher, it's still there. Is my iPhone 6 S doing 
> something untoward, or is the app as buggy as a Florida summer?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
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Re: VoiceOver does not speak images in the UIImagePickerController

[venky . 92]

Wow!
That could be a great resource for getting help. I was hoping something like 
the list should exist. :)


Thank you.
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> On 19-Mar-2016, at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> pole Apple maintains an accessibility mailing list whereApple employees and 
> developers can discuss such issues.
> 
> I suggest you look at the archive and perhaps post to that list. Most of the 
> people on this list are VoiceOver users.
> 
> Messages would be sent to: accessibility-...@lists.apple.com
> I am not sure if adding the standard -request would be how to subscribe, or 
> if you need to find the web page associated with the list.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 05:56, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> I am trying to develop an app. a part of the functionality is that the user 
>> should be able to select a photo stored on the device. For this, I am using 
>> the UIImagePickerController. There are 2 issues I noticed when running the 
>> project on my iPhone.
>> 1. After I hit the button and grant the app access to my photos, I am 
>> presented with different options (selfies, etc) each of these options is 
>> being spoken as an edit field. How do I fix this?
>> 2. After I choose a category say, selfies, VoiceOver does not give any 
>> output. When I verified with cited assistance, I was told that the user is 
>> presented with a grid of photos from which he or she can select. My expected 
>> behaviour is that VoiceOver speaks details of each photo (date taken, etc) 
>> as the user swipes or explores the screen (similar to most apps that ask us 
>> to select photos).
>> 
>> As I am using a default UI element, should it not be accessible already? How 
>> do I make this view accessible?
>> 
>> I posted this earlier but was not sure if it reached the list. I am sorry if 
>> this post is a duplicate of my original.
>> Thank you and best regards,
>> Venkatesh
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Re: tax blues with mac

[Caitlyn Furness]

thanks, Johnathon.

I managed to get our taxes done with se taxi.  s relatively easy and the tech 
support from them was outstanding!

Caitlyn

> On Mar 16, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I have forwarded this thread to Intuit’s Accessibility office. I’ll let you 
> know if I get a reply. 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
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Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone

[Scott Granados]

They do have a protector but you don’t need it.  It’s  an entirely sealed unit 
with a protector built in like the otter box but much more sealed and much more 
streamlined.


> On Mar 17, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Do they have the same screen cover as the otterbox case, or do you have to 
> use a regular screen protector?
>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> For one, the lifeproof cases are waterproof.  Notice, I didn't say water 
>> resistant.  I said water proof.
>> ---
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>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
>> - Original Message - From: "Jessica Moss" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> What’s the difference between those and a life proof case?
>>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are not air tight by any stretch of the imagination and dirt gets 
>>> under the screens very easily.  They also provide no protection against 
>>> water.
>>> 
>>> The fit is not all that girth, not like a life proof or similar.
>>> 
>>> You’ve got to take it a part and clean a lot more than you’d expect with 
>>> the otter box.
>>> 
 On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 They're pretty much airtight, but yes.  You do want to, maybe once or 
 twice a yewar pop the case off, and rence it off.  Notice: I said rence 
 off the case! not! the phone!  LOL!
 
 Chris.
 
 ---
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 JAWS Certified, 2016.
 Training Instructor.
 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
 - Original Message - From: "Jessica Moss" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
 
 
 They’re a pain in the neck.  I’ve had several people tell me you need to 
 take them off on occasion to clean the screen itself, which I never 
 understood, until I somehow found a bump of some sort under the plastic, 
 which I can only assume is a piece of dirt, sense it doesn’t seem to move 
 much, and the case has been on there a good year or so.
> On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> Those cases are a royal, B***! to get off!  It can be done, but not 
> easily. the trick is to find the little square nub on either the left 
> side, or the right side.  It'll be about halfway down the length of the 
> case.  You basically just have to get your fingernail up there in between 
> both the front and back of that hard case, and pull it apart. Be ready to 
> probably cut your finger a teeny bit though when doing it, as it's a 
> little bit sharp.  These things aren't meant to come off easily.
> 
> You might be able to pry a butterknife or something in there and pop it, 
> but I'd not chance it.  That could be a little bit risky.  I'm telling 
> you right now, it's not gonna be an easy chore!  It was fairly easy to do 
> with the IPhone 5, and 5S cases, and I think, even the 5C cases, but once 
> they went to the 6 cases which were thinner, it made it really really 
> difficult. Don't be afraid that you're gonna break it, as it's not giving 
> way.  It'll come, I promise ya, but you're really gonna have to pull, 
> and, buddy? I, mean, pull!  Hard!
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
> - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
> 
> 
> I don't know which one it is, I didn't pay that close of attention. I can 
> tell you that I'm able to get it loose by pulling back the top right 
> corner, but the case does not seem to want to let go of the phone!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You should be able to just use a fingernail on the top corner edge, and 
>> peal it off.
>> 
>> I personally don't mind the extra bulk, and actually find it makes my 
>> phone feel a bit more solid.  I swear by mine.
>> 
>> Also, you say you got an Otterbox.  Which one though, as that will 
>> determine how you get it off.  Are you using the Defender?
>> ---
>> Christopher 

Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. Use a 
three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the number, or 
punctuation.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or iPad?
> 
> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps for picking oup 
> their handwriting 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
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Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone

[Jessica Moss]

Do they have the same screen cover as the otterbox case, or do you have to use 
a regular screen protector?
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> For one, the lifeproof cases are waterproof.  Notice, I didn't say water 
> resistant.  I said water proof.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
> - Original Message - From: "Jessica Moss" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
> 
> 
> What’s the difference between those and a life proof case?
>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> There are not air tight by any stretch of the imagination and dirt gets 
>> under the screens very easily.  They also provide no protection against 
>> water.
>> 
>> The fit is not all that girth, not like a life proof or similar.
>> 
>> You’ve got to take it a part and clean a lot more than you’d expect with the 
>> otter box.
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They're pretty much airtight, but yes.  You do want to, maybe once or twice 
>>> a yewar pop the case off, and rence it off.  Notice: I said rence off the 
>>> case! not! the phone!  LOL!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Jessica Moss" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They’re a pain in the neck.  I’ve had several people tell me you need to 
>>> take them off on occasion to clean the screen itself, which I never 
>>> understood, until I somehow found a bump of some sort under the plastic, 
>>> which I can only assume is a piece of dirt, sense it doesn’t seem to move 
>>> much, and the case has been on there a good year or so.
 On Mar 15, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Those cases are a royal, B***! to get off!  It can be done, but not 
 easily. the trick is to find the little square nub on either the left 
 side, or the right side.  It'll be about halfway down the length of the 
 case.  You basically just have to get your fingernail up there in between 
 both the front and back of that hard case, and pull it apart. Be ready to 
 probably cut your finger a teeny bit though when doing it, as it's a 
 little bit sharp.  These things aren't meant to come off easily.
 
 You might be able to pry a butterknife or something in there and pop it, 
 but I'd not chance it.  That could be a little bit risky.  I'm telling you 
 right now, it's not gonna be an easy chore!  It was fairly easy to do with 
 the IPhone 5, and 5S cases, and I think, even the 5C cases, but once they 
 went to the 6 cases which were thinner, it made it really really 
 difficult. Don't be afraid that you're gonna break it, as it's not giving 
 way.  It'll come, I promise ya, but you're really gonna have to pull, and, 
 buddy? I, mean, pull!  Hard!
 ---
 Christopher Gilland
 JAWS Certified, 2016.
 Training Instructor.
 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
 - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
 
 
 I don't know which one it is, I didn't pay that close of attention. I can 
 tell you that I'm able to get it loose by pulling back the top right 
 corner, but the case does not seem to want to let go of the phone!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 15, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should be able to just use a fingernail on the top corner edge, and 
> peal it off.
> 
> I personally don't mind the extra bulk, and actually find it makes my 
> phone feel a bit more solid.  I swear by mine.
> 
> Also, you say you got an Otterbox.  Which one though, as that will 
> determine how you get it off.  Are you using the Defender?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
> - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> Subject: Just got an OtterBox case for my iPhone
> 
>