Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?

[Scott Granados]

Actually, Kawal, you’l get a fair bit of training.  The idea is not to go 
upside down.:).  You’ll sort of roll out of the plain feet first.  YOu’re going 
to put your feet together and sort of curve them a little at the knees so your 
legs and feet make a slant which is more aerodynamic.  You’ll then put your 
hands up with your upper arms out 90 degrees each like a wing and then you’ll 
bend at the elbows 90 degrees again  so your hands are flat and on either side 
of the top of your head. Think of your hands being the fins on a rocket in 
other words the means of steering.  You’ll twist your upper body and hands / 
shoulders to turn right and left.  The ride is very smooth if you hold your 
form correctly.  They will take you through this but this is something to 
expect.
Next thing to expect is when the chute opens it’s very sudden.  For we 
males it’s important to insure that your gentlemen’s sausage and family jewels 
are properly oriented so they don’t get pushed back in to your chest from the 
harness when it opens.  I will say I learned this the um hard way.  For women 
well I’m assuming this will be a simpler process just make sure the harness is 
comfortable and we’ll leave it there.  When things open up you’re going to go 
from 120 MPH down to a nice rental float in a matter of a few feet so it’s a 
bit like hitting a wall.
Once you’re open you’ll have ropes above you that you’ll hold on to.  
Pulling these opens the chute and lets out air so you’re able to steer.  The 
new square parachutes are very very maneuverable.
Landing is gentle for the most part assuming it’s a nice calm day.  
You’ll sort of step out of it and come to a stop.

Go for it, it’s an amazing experience.


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for letting me know Simon.
> 
> I will certainly let you all know.  Perhaps I'll treat it as a roller Coaster 
> ride as you go upside down in those.  If the parachute doesn't open then I'll 
> be dead as simple as that and the other person with it!
>> On 22 Dec 2016, at 05:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> I've not sky dived myself but I hear it's amazing,
>> 
>> And besides it's pretty safe when you jump from the plane,
>> 
>> However that sudden stop at the bottom if the shoot doesn't open might be a 
>> heart stopper.
>> 
>> Good luck can't wait to hear how it goes for you.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2016 11:56 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?
>> 
>> Talking about flying, I'm doing a sky dive next year to raise money for 
>> charity.  I am very determined to do it even though I've not been goods with 
>> heights, but this year I went to Iceland to trek and went up mountains so 
>> I'm sure now I will have no problems sky diving.
>>> On 20 Dec 2016, at 15:27, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Sandi:
>>> 
>>> Yes, that was me in Copenhagen. That was many years ago, I think 
>>> perhaps
>>> 2003 or 2004? Your memory is impressive! 
>>> 
>>> I was Hans Rasmussen's guest at the Danish Institute. He arranged a 
>>> session on Linux for interested folks on more than one occasion, as I 
>>> recall. iI know I was in Copenhagen, staying at the Institute, at 
>>> least
>>> 3 or 4 times. I guess you were there for one of those sessions? Small 
>>> world! 
>>> 
>>> You ask what I play. The answer is keyboards these days. My training, 
>>> and my college degree, was in music. I trained to be a concert 
>>> pianist--Beethoven, Mozart, and all those guys. Nowadays my music is 
>>> focussed around being a church musician. I'm Music Director for a 
>>> small church in College Park, Maryland, near where I live.
>>> 
>>> The time of my turn at the controls of a Cesna must have in in 1969 or 
>>> 1970. Our Music Department Chairman sat me down and read me a letter 
>>> from a camps some 200 plus miles away from where we were. They were 
>>> looking for someone to perform a concert for them. They were only 
>>> paying transportation, and I was trying to figure out how to say "No" 
>>> to my department Chairman until he looked up at me and said: "Let's fly."
>>> 
>>> I knew he was a pilot. I immediately said "Yes." I think they were 
>>> surprised by the transportation bill, but they paid it. I still had 
>>> residual vision in those days, so I was able to monitor the 
>>> instrumentation fairly well. I had a blast. I got a memory I still 
>>> cherish.
>>> 
>>> PS: I haven't spoken with Hans in years--since he retired. I should 
>>> try and contact him and Mitsie to say hi.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Sandi Jazmin Kruse writes:
 Janina, If i am not mistaken, and i could be, a girl with the same 
 name as 

Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Thanks for letting me know Simon.

I will certainly let you all know.  Perhaps I'll treat it as a roller Coaster 
ride as you go upside down in those.  If the parachute doesn't open then I'll 
be dead as simple as that and the other person with it!
> On 22 Dec 2016, at 05:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
> 
> I've not sky dived myself but I hear it's amazing,
> 
> And besides it's pretty safe when you jump from the plane,
> 
> However that sudden stop at the bottom if the shoot doesn't open might be a 
> heart stopper.
> 
> Good luck can't wait to hear how it goes for you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Macvisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?
> 
> Talking about flying, I'm doing a sky dive next year to raise money for 
> charity.  I am very determined to do it even though I've not been goods with 
> heights, but this year I went to Iceland to trek and went up mountains so I'm 
> sure now I will have no problems sky diving.
>> On 20 Dec 2016, at 15:27, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Sandi:
>> 
>> Yes, that was me in Copenhagen. That was many years ago, I think 
>> perhaps
>> 2003 or 2004? Your memory is impressive! 
>> 
>> I was Hans Rasmussen's guest at the Danish Institute. He arranged a 
>> session on Linux for interested folks on more than one occasion, as I 
>> recall. iI know I was in Copenhagen, staying at the Institute, at 
>> least
>> 3 or 4 times. I guess you were there for one of those sessions? Small 
>> world! 
>> 
>> You ask what I play. The answer is keyboards these days. My training, 
>> and my college degree, was in music. I trained to be a concert 
>> pianist--Beethoven, Mozart, and all those guys. Nowadays my music is 
>> focussed around being a church musician. I'm Music Director for a 
>> small church in College Park, Maryland, near where I live.
>> 
>> The time of my turn at the controls of a Cesna must have in in 1969 or 
>> 1970. Our Music Department Chairman sat me down and read me a letter 
>> from a camps some 200 plus miles away from where we were. They were 
>> looking for someone to perform a concert for them. They were only 
>> paying transportation, and I was trying to figure out how to say "No" 
>> to my department Chairman until he looked up at me and said: "Let's fly."
>> 
>> I knew he was a pilot. I immediately said "Yes." I think they were 
>> surprised by the transportation bill, but they paid it. I still had 
>> residual vision in those days, so I was able to monitor the 
>> instrumentation fairly well. I had a blast. I got a memory I still 
>> cherish.
>> 
>> PS: I haven't spoken with Hans in years--since he retired. I should 
>> try and contact him and Mitsie to say hi.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Sandi Jazmin Kruse writes:
>>> Janina, If i am not mistaken, and i could be, a girl with the same 
>>> name as you was in denmark. some years back, talking and 
>>> demonstrating linux.
>>> So, well, when i came home i was like, , “ i gotta be her” having 
>>> dreams is perfectly okay, but why do we have to stop after the dreams 
>>> over, that is when you realize what can be worked out into Rl, and 
>>> what  can’t.
>>> my Sister just corrected me , family Cessna is a 182-t. We have a 
>>> flying club a couple miles away from where i live, so now the guys 
>>> are wild up for recking a computer up to the MFDS. I will of course 
>>> still need a sighted pilot, but i promise y’all this, that will be 
>>> the smallest of my problems.
>>> Janina, you talking about playing, since we already sidetracking, er 
>>> i meant , sideslipping, what do you play? got a couple of different 
>>> Keytars here , the Vortex, the Linstrument, and a Seaboard.
>>> I knew hitting the local apple store was a bad idea, iPad and a 
>>> keyboard,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/20/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
 You've got me jealous again, Scott!  I never got beyond the 
 controls of a Cesna 180. Though I suppose I can take some solace 
 that it cost me only a couple hours work playing a concert in a 
 small Minnesota town.
 
 This was years ago when I was still in college.
 
 I'm going to have to try and follow in Sandi's footsteps, I think.
 Fantasy is important, after all!
 
 Janina
 
 Scott Granados writes:
> And here I used real aircraft instead of simulators.  I had no idea 
> there were accessible simulators other than the full sized 747 
> simulator I spent some time in in the Boston area.
> 
> I have flown (with a sited pilot of course) a Citation X, and older 
> Gulf-stream and a bunch of small Cessna planes like the 172.  And 
> here I could have saved $3000 per hour in 

Re: Caller ID not speaking through my bluetooth headset.

[Scott Granados]

This is probably an effect of the headset.  The Plantronics I use has it’s own 
TTS engine so it speaks the name and or number of the person calling if it’s 
available.  This happens as soon as the call is set up.  Yours may delay and or 
simply open a hands free session to the phone and require you to swipe over or 
tun on call announce.  I prefer the Plantronics method because it’s all tightly 
integrated and doesn’t require any use of my hands but that’s me.

> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’ve noticed that for some reason, eversense I got my bluetooth headset, 
> whenever I use the thing and a call comes through, it makes the sound like my 
> phone would when it vibrates, but everything else, takes forever to register. 
>  This is obviously a huge inconvenience, sense by the time my phone does 
> finally ring and announce who’s calling, it could’ve already rang about 2 or 
> 3 times; so there have been times where I’ve made the mistake of going ahead 
> and answering the call only to find out it was a scam artist trying to reach 
> me .  Has anyone else had this issue?
>  I’m currently using the LG tones, which for the most part, I love aside from 
> that.
> 
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Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Hi, guys, im definitely going to join that list, personally i am with
Janina, i dont like many games, okay, i have topspeed somewhere, that
is about it.

Sandi

On 12/22/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Yes, me too! I don't play games with my computers, but this one tempts
> me sorely.
>
> Janina
>
> Anders Holmberg writes:
>> Hi!
>> Where to get this flight sim for mac?
>> I may not be good at it but would like to try it out.
>> /A
>> > 19 dec. 2016 kl. 20:15 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse :
>> >
>> > Hi Joshua
>> > I have used flightier on mac , for about 10 year, before i got a job
>> > that required me to change to FSX, i have tried its your plane, it is
>> > fairly cute, if you unlike me , like to sit and talk to your plane, in
>> > my world it have nothing to do with flying, imagine this, you fly in
>> > your j3, you can hear every little beat from the engine. and what is
>> > even better, you control every little thing you have to do , yes it is
>> > hard, but if it was easy, everyone would do it, right?
>> > Janina, damn you, now you have me once again, wanting, needing an
>> > android thing, so i can try it out. Whimper, new mac book pro, new key
>> > tar, new iPad, and now also a new android thing ,  is it really that
>> > amazing that a girl lives in a geek world 24.7?  not if y’all ask me.
>> > Bookshare with Espeak? i dare you reading Calendar girl with that one,
>> > xd  hides in dark long hair.
>> > I only have the danish version, so i can’t do that, at least that, is
>> > going to be my story anyways.
>> > Best Sandi.
>> >
>> > On 12/19/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Yes, your correction is accepted, Scott. I'm aware of NAT, and in fact
>> >> have unroutable addresses asigned for my Fusion machines which I use
>> >> internally when communicating only on the Airbook itself.
>> >>
>> >> However, I particularly dislike NAT, and don't care to go back into
>> >> it.
>> >> Locally, I'm now fully IPv6, and plan to keep it that way. And, yes, I
>> >> do need my Fusion vm routable from the outside frequently enough.
>> >>
>> >> Setting up NAT just to avoid the extra address is, admittedly, a way
>> >> around my predicament. But, I'd frankly rather not. The truth is that
>> >> there are wifi interruptions enough, where communication hangs. To add
>> >> yet another layer to that isn't anything I want to fuss with.
>> >>
>> >> On my Lisbon trip I stayed with tethering via my T-Mobile phone for
>> >> just
>> >> that reason. And, indeed, there were wifi outages during the day that
>> >> others were frustrated by. I just smiled and kept going.
>> >>
>> >> What I saw in Sapporo in 2015, where NTT set a mesh with a WAP about
>> >> every 30-40 feet or so, with native IPv6 was another matter. There was
>> >> a
>> >> deployment I used all week without issues--but that's the exception in
>> >> my experience.
>> >>
>> >> Janina
>> >>
>> >> Scott Granados writes:
>> >>> Hi Janina, not arguing your points at all but I wanted to make one
>> >>> correction.  You most certainly can consolidate your IP usage.  If
>> >>> you
>> >>> spin up a VM and change the network adapter from bridged to NAT you
>> >>> can
>> >>> have the Mac receive one IP only and then have it provide an internal
>> >>> network for your other virtual machines thus removing the need for
>> >>> several
>> >>> IP addresses.  I’m aware of the problems with NAT, as I’m sure you are
>> >>> in
>> >>> great detail as well but I have found this to be a viable solution
>> >>> especially when on WiFi networks that require advanced authentication
>> >>> or
>> >>> wired networks with 802.1x enabled.  Another advantage is if you have
>> >>> a
>> >>> VPN running on the Mac side you can have access to all the various
>> >>> connected resources on the virtual network with out having to
>> >>> establish an
>> >>> independent VPN session per VM thus removing the limitations of VPN
>> >>> environments with login limits and other network access control
>> >>> limitations.  As a mother related note, you can also create internal
>> >>> networks with no access at all.  These are good for building virtual
>> >>> network topologies.  I have 12 different virtual routers that I spin
>> >>> up
>> >>> that each simulate a Juniper MX router.  I bind these with shared
>> >>> networks
>> >>> between their adapters which then represent them selves as point to
>> >>> point
>> >>> ethernet links with in the routers themselves.  So, for example, I
>> >>> can
>> >>> bind ge-0/0/0 on router 1 to ge-0/0/0 on router 2 using a shared /31
>> >>> address just like you would with real cables and routers.  I can then
>> >>> enable my protocols, set up my peering, enable MPLS, build VRFs and
>> >>> all
>> >>> the associated things you would in real hardware but with out the
>> >>> expense
>> >>> of building a home lab and buying all the real gear.  Also, this
>> >>> allows 

Re: Anti Theft Measures

[Scott Granados]

Because we live in a free society.:)

During the founding of our country a thing called the bill of rights was 
included in the constitution.  The first 10 amendments are what constitutes the 
original bill of rights.  These were listed in relative order of importance 
with the first amendment representing freedom of expression and speech, the 
second is the right to bare arms and represents that right for both the 
individual groups.  We have guaranties of reasonable search and seizure, the 
right to be protected from self incrimination, the right to due process and so 
on and so forth.  You have no such protection so your governments can make 
things like gun ownership impossible.  Here we have what the founders would 
have called a God given or natural right to these things.  (Before the 
christians get out of hand, this was a reference to God in the sense of nature 
and an over all grand architect of the universe, not a specific invisible man 
in the sky). The rights are inherent in nature and can not be taken away by the 
government is the proper interpretation.
Later on this document was amended further to add things like being 
born on American soil grants you citizenship, we undid a horrible wrong and 
granted equal treatment under the law to all people regardless of race as a 
result of slavery which is a shameful stain on our history but one we must deal 
with head on and was addressed in our constitution, we have an amendment that 
was added to prohibit alcohol consumption and one later (the 21st amendment) 
that undid prohibition.  (You think we would have learned from this instead of 
started the damn drug war). The later amendments were more corrections of 
wrongs in our history like granting women the right to vote which is another 
result of a shameful part of our history but luckily there is a procedure to 
update the document and fix these things.  To do this the legislature has to 
approve the amendment by 2/3rds majority and it needs to be ratified by 3 
quarters of the states or 38 I believe in our case today.
Different countries have differing versions of this, some for example 
have amendments where racism is unlawful (I like that) or different voting 
characteristics and such.  Ours were generated as a result of the revolution 
originally and freeing our selves from British Rule.  Britain would force us to 
disarm under certain conditions, tax us with out representation (tea parties 
and all) and force us to house British Soldiers (no quarter).  Our fore fathers 
rejected the idea of a monarchy and our rules of governance all originate from 
these early documents, primarily our constitution.
The gun thing gets much more complicated because laws have been past 
since that limit certain classes or for example require certain background 
checks.  When I buy an automatic weapon (machine gun) for example I have to go 
through a process with our Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms where a 
background check takes place and an official transfer from own owner to another 
takes place.  With out a lot of special paperwork I can only buy automatic 
weapons from pre April of 1986 when additional limitations were placed.  Other 
what they call destructive devices are similarly regulated like rocket 
launchers, grenade launchers and automatic shotguns.  However, the basic right 
to own most classes of weapons has been upheld time and time again.  Even 
states and cities attempts to subvert the constitution have been thankfully 
overturned in our courts.

This is probably to much of a Civics lesson for this list and certainly 
probably of little interest to folks in other countries so I’ll end it here.  
If you have any further questions about the way we do things feel free to ping 
me off list so we don’t upset the list members.



> On Dec 21, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Late in on this one.
> 
> How the hell do you guys get to not only carry but actually get fire arms?
> 
> We've got pretty strict laws here for owning firearms 
> Mind you to have a hand gun here you have to be a member of a club and 
> certified to own no such thing as carry, that will get you time.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2016 5:51 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anti Theft Measures
> 
> Hi Scott,
> How did you get around the training course for the concealed cary permit?
> I've been considering one.
> Also the "judge" is the exact piece I was looking at!
> The 410 was my first small game pump at 12 years old.
> PS I'd rather sell the "junk" electronics to a progressive than shoot it!
> Talk soon
> Chuck
> 
> On Dec 20, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I’m registered for conceal carry and the permit I have is recognized in 34 
>> states, same with my assistant 

BARD Express.

[Eileen Scrivani]

I know most of you have already heard about the new Bard Express, but I thought 
this article from the AFB web site gives a good understanding of what its 
supposed to do.  

The original link for the AFB article can be found at:

http://www.afb.org/community/announcements/the-national-library-service-for-the-blind-and-physically-handicapped-nls-receives-new-software-for-braille-and-audio-reading-download-bard-service/12

The text of the article is as follows:

The National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped (NLS) 
Receives New Software for Braille and Audio Reading Download (BARD) Service
Date: 12/21/2016

The National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped (NLS), 
Library of Congress, has accepted the donation of "BARD Express," a 
Windows-based
software program that will aid in the use of the NLS Braille and Audio Reading 
Download (BARD) service. The free software will be available to patrons
of the NLS program in December 2016.

"BARD Express will make browsing BARD audio materials, downloading titles, and 
transferring them to a cartridge or USB drive much easier for patrons using
a PC." said NLS director Karen Keninger. "We hope it will make the thousands of 
books available on BARD readily accessible to more patrons."

BARD Express was the brainchild of Kirk Saathoff, a software developer whose 
wife and son are patrons of the NLS braille and talking book program and 
frequent
users of BARD. "For years, I watched my wife sometimes become a bit annoyed 
with her computer, and I know [most] software is designed without regard for
people with disabilities," Saathoff said. "My hope in developing this software 
was that it would allow more people to enjoy books while minimizing the
time and frustration involved in accessing them."

BARD Express manages audio materials that users download to their computer and 
categorizes the materials by books, magazines, read items, and unread items
for easy sorting. The program also simplifies downloading and transferring 
talking books to a cartridge or USB drive by providing a button that unzips
and transfers the files to an external storage device. It also provides device 
management options from the main menu. 

Don Olson, BARD operations manager at NLS said, "BARD Express enables NLS 
patrons to more easily unzip the books they download from BARD. Gone are the
days of having to carry out multiple file management steps in order to place a 
book or magazine on an NLS cartridge or a USB drive." 

Olson explained that BARD Express "provides step-by-step menus to more easily 
move books from a PC to a patron's device of choice." The program will simplify
searching for titles on BARD by presenting various searching and browsing 
options from the main menu, such as search by series, search by keyword, browse
the recently added and most popular lists, and browse the magazine collection."

According to Olson, NLS plans to release the software, along with support 
resources—such as a BARD Express "how-to" video series, Frequently Asked 
Questions
about BARD Express, and a Getting Started Guide for supporting library staff in 
the network of cooperating libraries. A link to the download site for the
new free, software will be provided on BARD in December 2016.

URL: 
https://nlsbardpractice.loc.gov/LOC_02/BARDExpress.html?loclr=eabard

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Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, me too! I don't play games with my computers, but this one tempts
me sorely.

Janina

Anders Holmberg writes:
> Hi!
> Where to get this flight sim for mac?
> I may not be good at it but would like to try it out.
> /A
> > 19 dec. 2016 kl. 20:15 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse :
> > 
> > Hi Joshua
> > I have used flightier on mac , for about 10 year, before i got a job
> > that required me to change to FSX, i have tried its your plane, it is
> > fairly cute, if you unlike me , like to sit and talk to your plane, in
> > my world it have nothing to do with flying, imagine this, you fly in
> > your j3, you can hear every little beat from the engine. and what is
> > even better, you control every little thing you have to do , yes it is
> > hard, but if it was easy, everyone would do it, right?
> > Janina, damn you, now you have me once again, wanting, needing an
> > android thing, so i can try it out. Whimper, new mac book pro, new key
> > tar, new iPad, and now also a new android thing ,  is it really that
> > amazing that a girl lives in a geek world 24.7?  not if y’all ask me.
> > Bookshare with Espeak? i dare you reading Calendar girl with that one,
> > xd  hides in dark long hair.
> > I only have the danish version, so i can’t do that, at least that, is
> > going to be my story anyways.
> > Best Sandi.
> > 
> > On 12/19/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> >  wrote:
> >> Yes, your correction is accepted, Scott. I'm aware of NAT, and in fact
> >> have unroutable addresses asigned for my Fusion machines which I use
> >> internally when communicating only on the Airbook itself.
> >> 
> >> However, I particularly dislike NAT, and don't care to go back into it.
> >> Locally, I'm now fully IPv6, and plan to keep it that way. And, yes, I
> >> do need my Fusion vm routable from the outside frequently enough.
> >> 
> >> Setting up NAT just to avoid the extra address is, admittedly, a way
> >> around my predicament. But, I'd frankly rather not. The truth is that
> >> there are wifi interruptions enough, where communication hangs. To add
> >> yet another layer to that isn't anything I want to fuss with.
> >> 
> >> On my Lisbon trip I stayed with tethering via my T-Mobile phone for just
> >> that reason. And, indeed, there were wifi outages during the day that
> >> others were frustrated by. I just smiled and kept going.
> >> 
> >> What I saw in Sapporo in 2015, where NTT set a mesh with a WAP about
> >> every 30-40 feet or so, with native IPv6 was another matter. There was a
> >> deployment I used all week without issues--but that's the exception in
> >> my experience.
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> Scott Granados writes:
> >>> Hi Janina, not arguing your points at all but I wanted to make one
> >>> correction.  You most certainly can consolidate your IP usage.  If you
> >>> spin up a VM and change the network adapter from bridged to NAT you can
> >>> have the Mac receive one IP only and then have it provide an internal
> >>> network for your other virtual machines thus removing the need for several
> >>> IP addresses.  I’m aware of the problems with NAT, as I’m sure you are in
> >>> great detail as well but I have found this to be a viable solution
> >>> especially when on WiFi networks that require advanced authentication or
> >>> wired networks with 802.1x enabled.  Another advantage is if you have a
> >>> VPN running on the Mac side you can have access to all the various
> >>> connected resources on the virtual network with out having to establish an
> >>> independent VPN session per VM thus removing the limitations of VPN
> >>> environments with login limits and other network access control
> >>> limitations.  As a mother related note, you can also create internal
> >>> networks with no access at all.  These are good for building virtual
> >>> network topologies.  I have 12 different virtual routers that I spin up
> >>> that each simulate a Juniper MX router.  I bind these with shared networks
> >>> between their adapters which then represent them selves as point to point
> >>> ethernet links with in the routers themselves.  So, for example, I can
> >>> bind ge-0/0/0 on router 1 to ge-0/0/0 on router 2 using a shared /31
> >>> address just like you would with real cables and routers.  I can then
> >>> enable my protocols, set up my peering, enable MPLS, build VRFs and all
> >>> the associated things you would in real hardware but with out the expense
> >>> of building a home lab and buying all the real gear.  Also, this allows me
> >>> to easily carry from place to place simulated networks to demonstrate
> >>> features to customers or team members.  It’s also a great place to test
> >>> configuration changes.
> >>> 
> >>> John mentioned that the disk layout is quite good and consistent on the
> >>> Mac and also the startup disk location can be set before reboot so that
> >>> would ease the concerns I raised.  I guess I’m just a VM man because I
> >>> like the 

Re: Anyone successfully triple booting?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, if trying Android is on your wish list for Santa, the Pixel or
Pixel XL is definitely the way to dip your toe in the Android poind
these days.

You want basic default Android. One difference in Androidland you soon
learn about is that every manufacturer is free to add and tweak their
Android products, and this often ends up making them less, not more
accessible. In other words, it's not like Apple products, where one
company is strictly in charge of the hardware, the OS, and all the
default software.

We'll look for you over on the Eyes-Free list, Sandi. As Scott
mentioned, I'm on that list, and so is he.

Meanwhile, no crocodile tears about cars that can't stop when needed!


Janina

Scott Granados writes:
> I know all about British cars. I owned a Rolls Royce Phantom for 3 months.:). 
> I bought it used at a deep deep discount and sold it when I got a 56,000 
> dollar bill for breaks.  That’s just not justifiable.  Same thing happened to 
> me when I tried to buy a Ferrari and got a $60K bill for an oil change and 
> tune up.  Out it went.  Luckily I did not pay anywhere near retail.  Probably 
> why I got them so cheap.
> 
> So back to the topic at hand.
> 
> If you want to try android I would suggest to you the eyes-free list which is 
> eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
>  
> 
> The Pixel or Pixel XL can be bought from the google store.  A screen reader 
> is included and it is entirely possible for a blind user to self activate 
> just like an Apple although it is very different.  There are many helpful 
> folks on the eyes-free list and the subject is totally on topic there.  I’ll 
> be going through activation and learning myself over the next week or so 
> which means yes, I should be able to help.
>   You may also want to go the book route.  Ana Garcia published a book on 
> beginning Android.  She’s a participant on the eyes-free list and may be able 
> to provide pointers among others.  You can google Ana Garcia and Android 
> beginners book to find the exact title and sales point.
>   Janina from this list is also an active member on the Android side.
>   There is a tool to migrate from Apple to Google if you wish that 
> simplifies the process.  I’ll be posting comparisons and my experiences over 
> the next short term as well if that is something you wish to follow before 
> spending the money.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> > 
> > Scott, that kind of jets, is like some british sports cars, or the
> > american harley, need constant baby sitting. :)
> > That is , what makes them so, absolutely adorable ! :) if you like
> > that kind of mechanics, of course that is. I will try the google
> > android thing out, does anyone know how to set it up once i bought it
> > blush, i know absolutely nothing , about them.
> > Josh, between me and you, FG, is messy, and well. i made a manual in
> > how to set it up if you are blind, i will see if i can find it later
> > tonight and send it to you, if you are really serious, but i think,
> > and remember that is my view, that you will come longer with FSx.  But
> > if you insist, ill be happy to help you out of course. :)
> > Regards Sandi who is once again, swearing over her iPad xd
> > 
> > On 12/20/16, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:
> >> I don’t think it does. There are addons that work like MultiCrew Experience
> >> with it. I’d personally like to know how Sandy used FlightGear, though..
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Can I interject a question here abou x-plane on the mac here. Does it
> >>> offer anything for VO?  Never tried it, as I myself just use zoom. On iOS.
> >>> I still run an old version of x-plane.
> >>> 
> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> >>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> >>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
> >>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> >>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> >>> Twitter: @lpnalda
> >>> 
>  On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
>  wrote:
>  
>  Hi Scott, family have a Skylane, and a 172, and presently in the
>  market for a j3, if we can find it, yes, Sims are indeed accessible,
>  FlightGear is fun, but, the windows version is better, I don’t hope
>  that Joss, starts out with the planes from A2A, though. They are as
>  real as it get, even Nasa uses them for testing out new stuff. At
>  least if we talk GA.
>  Y’all, have fun, am on my way to spend over $1500 on key tar, mixers and
>  shit.
>  Janina, you said you use android, i am curious, what works in that
>  world if you are blind? if you are scared spamming the list with it ,
>  please write me off list.
>  
>  /Sandi
>  
> > On 12/19/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> > And here I used real aircraft instead of simulators.  I had 

RE: my mack charger

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi 

I have a spare for my Mac book air but that's just a simple case of it gives me 
the option to have one at work as well as home.

 But if it's falling apart then contact Apple and let them know those devices 
shouldn't fall apart.

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On Behalf Of hannah day
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 9:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: my mack charger

Good evening all .

Can i have your views please?

Tonight i have had a scare with my mack book charger for my first mack . 

2015 mack book pro 13 inch .

When i tried to put it on charge tonight it was refusing to charge up even 
though i put the charger back together as it had fallen apart in the case where 
i keep my mack .

After several attempts i have managed to get the mack to charge up but the 
thing is i find the charger falls apart meaning it comes in two bits meaning 
the plug falls off the transformer where the magnet is . 

Has anyone had issues with there chargers and do you think i should buy a spare?

Any responses would be greatful.Reminder it's a early   

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RE: New public betas released

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks for this I’ll have to go download the IOS beta.

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Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 9:04 AM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
Subject: New public betas released

For anyone running the public betas, a new Mac OS X and IOS have been released 
today.

Install on both went very well.

You can read more here

http://www.redmondpie.com/public-beta-2-of-ios-10.2.1-and-macos-10.12.3-beta-1-of-watchos-3.1.3-out-now/

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