RE: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection Announcements, But .

[Simon Fogarty]

The west island to us kiwis, or the western prison island,
Half to send the problem children somewhere.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 12:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection 
Announcements, But .

Hi,

I like the way you think Simon.  Just like Australia is an extension of New 
Zealand ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 8, 2017, at 14:30, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Aren’t they the same place?

Isn’t the USA an extension of the Canadian provinces

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 6:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection 
Announcements, But .

US and Canada only, unfortunately.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Anders Holmberg 
> wrote:
Hi!
Is the nearby explorer app US only?
/A
7 jan. 2017 kl. 19:34 skrev Mary Otten 
>:

Hi Jonathan,
The problem you are describing is one that all of the GPS programs have, 
because the point that they are looking at is not the door, but some other 
arbitrary point that has been said by the folks to make a Maps. If you have a 
program such as nearby explorer, you can set your own point, which would be the 
door or whatever you were trying to find. And the "Geo beam" feature is very 
helpful here as well. But the first time you go to the store or the restaurant, 
of course you won't have set that point. So you would be in the same fix that 
you would be in if you were using the regular apple maps. The nice thing about 
these programs is the ability to set these favorites, but of course you have to 
set them before you can use them.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
> wrote:
I have been considering Blind Square for the past 6 months, but was not sure 
about if accuracy was sufficient. Transit and MoveIt transit services work in 
my area, and generally my Guide Dog gets me to places I have been before with 
little difficulty. However when there is a restaurant I read about on yelp, or 
a specific store I want to visit in a downtown block, I find that maps gets me 
near the street address, but then finding the door can be quite an adventure. 
This is especially true in suburban areas where there are large parking lots 
around an office building. If I got Near By Explorer or BlindSquare would I be 
more likely to find the entrance I want without assistance?


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:18 AM, David Chittenden 
> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Apple is using many more sources for map and POI data. I just read through the 
list.

I have been using Maps primarily for the type of walking you described for a 
few years now. I also use BlindSquare for the same purpose, but maps is often 
more accurate.

As for POIs, I submitted a business location / name correction a couple months 
ago, and Apple accepted the correction within a day. Google Maps allows the 
same sort of data correction submissions.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone



On 6/01/2017, at 20:32, M. Taylor > wrote:

Hello All,

I was just experimenting with the native iOS Maps app today and, as many of
you already know, if one sets the tracking feature to, "On+Heading", then
places VoiceOver focus on the, "My Location", area of the screen, as one
travels down a road, cross street names and intersection info is quite
accurately announced.

In fact, I enjoy this feature so much so that I am beginning to use the Maps
app instead of Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer, when merely traveling down
a street, with no particular destination in mind.

There is, however, kind of a drawback in using the Maps app for intersection
announcements, as least as far as I am concerned; said drawback being that,
in addition to accurately providing intersection information, such as the
names of cross streets, Maps also continuously announces points-of-interests
as they are passed.  For me, this is too much information, especially when
traveling in a vehicle as the announcements become somewhat cluttered.  My
personal preference would be to have intersection/cross street
announcements, only.

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable POI announcements in Maps?

If POI announcements could be disabled, in the 

Re: Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[John Panarese]

   I had looked at App Delete earlier and apparently, there are no settings 
kept. Maybe, because it accesses the website, but the only file that shows with 
App Delete is the actual application file.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:55 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Either App Delete or Clean My Mac can provide the locations for all the 
> supporting files.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/8/2017 2:31 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>   This is a really good question. I looked all over the place. I can’t
>> find any reference to them, unless the developer name is really obscure
>> and has nothing to do with RS Games in their listing for preferences in
>> Preferences or Application Support.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:19 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Look for files with either the app name or developer name. Or do a
>>> Spotlight search.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 1/8/2017 1:41 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
 Hi. I just looked in there and there is nothing in there for RS
 Games. Any other suggestions?
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
 
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:35 AM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> Look inside your library folder, Application Support, Preferences.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 1/8/2017 2:41 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>> Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the
>> speech rate in the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I
>> can't set it back to normal with the command+Right arrow
>> combination. So I'd like to delete all the settings for the client
>> but I can't figure out where they keep those settings. I checked in
>> user/library/application support but I don't see a folder for it.
>> Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. If anyone can help
>> me track down where they keep their settings file, I'd greatly
>> appreciate it. I can't play with excruciatingly slow speech, that
>> would drive me crazy. Thanks.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> 
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Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection Announcements, But .

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I like the way you think Simon.  Just like Australia is an extension of New 
Zealand ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 8, 2017, at 14:30, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Aren’t they the same place?
 
Isn’t the USA an extension of the Canadian provinces
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 6:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection 
Announcements, But .
 
US and Canada only, unfortunately.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Anders Holmberg > wrote:

Hi!
Is the nearby explorer app US only?
/A
7 jan. 2017 kl. 19:34 skrev Mary Otten >:
 
Hi Jonathan,
The problem you are describing is one that all of the GPS programs have, 
because the point that they are looking at is not the door, but some other 
arbitrary point that has been said by the folks to make a Maps. If you have a 
program such as nearby explorer, you can set your own point, which would be the 
door or whatever you were trying to find. And the "Geo beam" feature is very 
helpful here as well. But the first time you go to the store or the restaurant, 
of course you won't have set that point. So you would be in the same fix that 
you would be in if you were using the regular apple maps. The nice thing about 
these programs is the ability to set these favorites, but of course you have to 
set them before you can use them.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:

I have been considering Blind Square for the past 6 months, but was not sure 
about if accuracy was sufficient. Transit and MoveIt transit services work in 
my area, and generally my Guide Dog gets me to places I have been before with 
little difficulty. However when there is a restaurant I read about on yelp, or 
a specific store I want to visit in a downtown block, I find that maps gets me 
near the street address, but then finding the door can be quite an adventure. 
This is especially true in suburban areas where there are large parking lots 
around an office building. If I got Near By Explorer or BlindSquare would I be 
more likely to find the entrance I want without assistance?
 
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 


 
On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:18 AM, David Chittenden > wrote:
 
Hi Mark,

Apple is using many more sources for map and POI data. I just read through the 
list.

I have been using Maps primarily for the type of walking you described for a 
few years now. I also use BlindSquare for the same purpose, but maps is often 
more accurate.

As for POIs, I submitted a business location / name correction a couple months 
ago, and Apple accepted the correction within a day. Google Maps allows the 
same sort of data correction submissions.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone


On 6/01/2017, at 20:32, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Hello All,   

I was just experimenting with the native iOS Maps app today and, as many of
you already know, if one sets the tracking feature to, "On+Heading", then
places VoiceOver focus on the, "My Location", area of the screen, as one
travels down a road, cross street names and intersection info is quite
accurately announced.

In fact, I enjoy this feature so much so that I am beginning to use the Maps
app instead of Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer, when merely traveling down
a street, with no particular destination in mind.  

There is, however, kind of a drawback in using the Maps app for intersection
announcements, as least as far as I am concerned; said drawback being that,
in addition to accurately providing intersection information, such as the
names of cross streets, Maps also continuously announces points-of-interests
as they are passed.  For me, this is too much information, especially when
traveling in a vehicle as the announcements become somewhat cluttered.  My
personal preference would be to have intersection/cross street
announcements, only.

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable POI announcements in Maps?  

If POI announcements could be disabled, in the scenario I have described
above, then the native iOS Maps app could quite easily make it possible for
those of us who are visually challenged to enjoy basic GPS navigation
without having to incur additional cost by purchasing third-party GPS
navigation solutions.

I hope that those of you who participate in the iOS beta program will pass

Re: Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[E.T.]

   Either App Delete or Clean My Mac can provide the locations for all 
the supporting files.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/8/2017 2:31 PM, John Panarese wrote:

   This is a really good question. I looked all over the place. I can’t
find any reference to them, unless the developer name is really obscure
and has nothing to do with RS Games in their listing for preferences in
Preferences or Application Support.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:19 PM, E.T. > wrote:

  Look for files with either the app name or developer name. Or do a
Spotlight search.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 1/8/2017 1:41 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hi. I just looked in there and there is nothing in there for RS
Games. Any other suggestions?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 


On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:35 AM, E.T. > wrote:

 Look inside your library folder, Application Support, Preferences.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 1/8/2017 2:41 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the
speech rate in the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I
can't set it back to normal with the command+Right arrow
combination. So I'd like to delete all the settings for the client
but I can't figure out where they keep those settings. I checked in
user/library/application support but I don't see a folder for it.
Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. If anyone can help
me track down where they keep their settings file, I'd greatly
appreciate it. I can't play with excruciatingly slow speech, that
would drive me crazy. Thanks.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 



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Re: Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[John Panarese]

   This is a really good question. I looked all over the place. I can’t find 
any reference to them, unless the developer name is really obscure and has 
nothing to do with RS Games in their listing for preferences in Preferences or 
Application Support.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:19 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Look for files with either the app name or developer name. Or do a 
> Spotlight search.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/8/2017 1:41 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>> Hi. I just looked in there and there is nothing in there for RS Games. Any 
>> other suggestions?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:35 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Look inside your library folder, Application Support, Preferences.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 1/8/2017 2:41 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
 Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the speech 
 rate in the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I can't set it 
 back to normal with the command+Right arrow combination. So I'd like to 
 delete all the settings for the client but I can't figure out where they 
 keep those settings. I checked in user/library/application support but I 
 don't see a folder for it. Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. 
 If anyone can help me track down where they keep their settings file, I'd 
 greatly appreciate it. I can't play with excruciatingly slow speech, that 
 would drive me crazy. Thanks.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
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Re: Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[E.T.]

   Look for files with either the app name or developer name. Or do a 
Spotlight search.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/8/2017 1:41 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hi. I just looked in there and there is nothing in there for RS Games. Any 
other suggestions?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:35 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  Look inside your library folder, Application Support, Preferences.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/8/2017 2:41 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the speech rate in 
the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I can't set it back to normal 
with the command+Right arrow combination. So I'd like to delete all the 
settings for the client but I can't figure out where they keep those settings. 
I checked in user/library/application support but I don't see a folder for it. 
Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. If anyone can help me track down 
where they keep their settings file, I'd greatly appreciate it. I can't play 
with excruciatingly slow speech, that would drive me crazy. Thanks.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com



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Re: Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I just looked in there and there is nothing in there for RS Games. Any 
other suggestions?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:35 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Look inside your library folder, Application Support, Preferences.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/8/2017 2:41 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>> Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the speech rate 
>> in the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I can't set it back to 
>> normal with the command+Right arrow combination. So I'd like to delete all 
>> the settings for the client but I can't figure out where they keep those 
>> settings. I checked in user/library/application support but I don't see a 
>> folder for it. Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. If anyone can 
>> help me track down where they keep their settings file, I'd greatly 
>> appreciate it. I can't play with excruciatingly slow speech, that would 
>> drive me crazy. Thanks.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
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RE: Accessible camera for dog's collar

[Simon Fogarty]

Considering go pros are the device of choice for crazy people doing adventure 
racing or sports.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 6:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible camera for dog's collar

The files are stored right to a card which are available with a standard 
reader.  I can’t speak for the GoPro specific software but once the files are 
in the Mac you can edit them in other tools as normal.  There’s a nice big 
button to press to start and stop recording and you can voice trigger the new 
one.  My assistant got one for Christmas and got this accessory package meant 
specifically for it that is quite the full setup.  He even has all these 
underwater housings.  I keep telling him when James Cameron picks him up I’m 
more than happy to carry his bag for him anywhere he needs to go.;). We use a 
bunch of these cameras on the drones as well especially the custom made ones so 
for what the original poster was wanting they will do just fine.  They are good 
enough though to do Comercial broadcasting with the right operator.  I need to 
improve my recovery record but if I can I”ll start putting them in rockets.  
Right now though we keep losing the rockets when they go out of site.  I need 
some sort of GPS tracker for the rocket retrieval because we lose them when 
their parachutes open but they blow down range miles .  I don’t want to lose a 
$500 Camera setup in the lake.:). I also have a 1/5th scale gas powered car 
that I mount GoPro cameras on.   We put a mount right where the driver would be 
so it looks like you’re looking out the windshield.  It will do about 70 MPH 
full out in a field or open area.  The 0 to 60 is also faster than just about 
any car.  It’s basically a small plastic truck with a chainsaw engine and a 
remote controller.:). I have some examples on youtube.






On Jan 7, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Yeah thinking about it,
A go pro or similar type device would be the best option as it is a 
rechargeable device so doesn’t need an external power supply and video captured 
is saved on to an SD or Micro SD card so can be then transered on to a computer

I’m not sure however how accessible the Go Pro desktop software products are 
once you have the video saved to a computer etc.


I know the similar device I had a look at the software for the device wasn’t 
anywhere near usefull.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2017 7:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible camera for dog's collar

In the video he states the camera is a Go Pro. Interesting idea, though I am 
not sure I would want to know all the times people ignored me.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Jan 7, 2017, at 5:46 AM, Adrienne Chalmers 
> wrote:

Hello

Many of you may have seen this article about a blind person who attached a 
camera to his guide dog’s collar to log discriminatory behaviour. 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-38027203

What I would like to know is if anyone has any experience of such devices and 
can recommend one which is easily accessible in terms of its operation and how 
to download relevant images either onto my iPhone, or my Mac.

Thanks

Adrienne

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RE: Od apple music Issue.

[Simon Fogarty]

Any idea of what tracks wont play and we can try and replicate 

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 6:31 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Od apple music Issue.

Hi!
This isn’t VoiceOver specific but i hope some one can clarify things for me a 
bit.
I searched for one of my favorites on friday which actually are the Blues 
Brothers.
It came up with all results i wanted including the soundtrack for the movie.
However to my surprise some songs didn’t play which made me first think that 
there was a problem with The apple music service.
But it wasn’t when i tried the same soundtrack album yesterday.
That made me check the Itunes Store to see if they had the album there.
And yes they did.
And you know that you can listen to small amounts of the songs from the album 
when you view the songs list?
Now here on this album the songs that didn’t play on apple music wasn’t able to 
priview in Itunes Store either.
There was only a button named album only and when pressing that button nothing 
happens.
So i am wondering whats going on here?
Why are some songs able to play and others can’t be found or are unplayable in 
just one album?
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
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RE: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection Announcements, But .

[Simon Fogarty]

Aren’t they the same place?

Isn’t the USA an extension of the Canadian provinces

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 6:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection 
Announcements, But .

US and Canada only, unfortunately.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Anders Holmberg 
> wrote:
Hi!
Is the nearby explorer app US only?
/A
7 jan. 2017 kl. 19:34 skrev Mary Otten 
>:

Hi Jonathan,
The problem you are describing is one that all of the GPS programs have, 
because the point that they are looking at is not the door, but some other 
arbitrary point that has been said by the folks to make a Maps. If you have a 
program such as nearby explorer, you can set your own point, which would be the 
door or whatever you were trying to find. And the "Geo beam" feature is very 
helpful here as well. But the first time you go to the store or the restaurant, 
of course you won't have set that point. So you would be in the same fix that 
you would be in if you were using the regular apple maps. The nice thing about 
these programs is the ability to set these favorites, but of course you have to 
set them before you can use them.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
> wrote:
I have been considering Blind Square for the past 6 months, but was not sure 
about if accuracy was sufficient. Transit and MoveIt transit services work in 
my area, and generally my Guide Dog gets me to places I have been before with 
little difficulty. However when there is a restaurant I read about on yelp, or 
a specific store I want to visit in a downtown block, I find that maps gets me 
near the street address, but then finding the door can be quite an adventure. 
This is especially true in suburban areas where there are large parking lots 
around an office building. If I got Near By Explorer or BlindSquare would I be 
more likely to find the entrance I want without assistance?


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn


On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:18 AM, David Chittenden 
> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Apple is using many more sources for map and POI data. I just read through the 
list.

I have been using Maps primarily for the type of walking you described for a 
few years now. I also use BlindSquare for the same purpose, but maps is often 
more accurate.

As for POIs, I submitted a business location / name correction a couple months 
ago, and Apple accepted the correction within a day. Google Maps allows the 
same sort of data correction submissions.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone


On 6/01/2017, at 20:32, M. Taylor > wrote:

Hello All,

I was just experimenting with the native iOS Maps app today and, as many of
you already know, if one sets the tracking feature to, "On+Heading", then
places VoiceOver focus on the, "My Location", area of the screen, as one
travels down a road, cross street names and intersection info is quite
accurately announced.

In fact, I enjoy this feature so much so that I am beginning to use the Maps
app instead of Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer, when merely traveling down
a street, with no particular destination in mind.

There is, however, kind of a drawback in using the Maps app for intersection
announcements, as least as far as I am concerned; said drawback being that,
in addition to accurately providing intersection information, such as the
names of cross streets, Maps also continuously announces points-of-interests
as they are passed.  For me, this is too much information, especially when
traveling in a vehicle as the announcements become somewhat cluttered.  My
personal preference would be to have intersection/cross street
announcements, only.

Does anyone know if there is a way to disable POI announcements in Maps?

If POI announcements could be disabled, in the scenario I have described
above, then the native iOS Maps app could quite easily make it possible for
those of us who are visually challenged to enjoy basic GPS navigation
without having to incur additional cost by purchasing third-party GPS
navigation solutions.

I hope that those of you who participate in the iOS beta program will pass
this topic and suggestion along to Apple developers.

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Simon Fogarty]

But scott, sure thiss is a OS feature of speech with file volt rather than a 
hardware related issue.


 

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 6:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

+1, this is file vault.  On the 2011 models unfortunately, I don’t believe 
voice is supported, I think you have to work with the beeps.

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible that you have File Vault enabled?  If so, the beep you here is 
> the prompt to enter your username.  If you are successful, you will hear two 
> more beeps.  This is the queue to enter your password.  Upon successful 
> entering of your password, you will hear three beeps and the computer will 
> continue booting.
> 
> I actually have the opposite problem to you, my computer doesn’t shutdown 
> since the upgrade to Siera.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:38 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
>> installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier 
>> this evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding 
>> and musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 
>> 10 seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts 
>> itself off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it 
>> just sit on charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
>> Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
>> Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Gabe.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Gabe's iPhone
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RE: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Simon Fogarty]

And also, with regards to the comment of boot in to recovery mode and run first 
aid on your drive,

 Only do that from a USB device or similar as if your booting to the 
problematic drive from the functioning OS then your trying to correct what you 
are currently using.
 This doesn't really work well.

Booting to a USB or flash drive with bootable OS setup puts you on to a device 
that is not working the HD or ssd in the machine.
Good thought of the file volt, I forgot it did the beeps.

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On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: Monday, 9 January 2017 4:49 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

Is it possible that you have File Vault enabled?  If so, the beep you here is 
the prompt to enter your username.  If you are successful, you will hear two 
more beeps.  This is the queue to enter your password.  Upon successful 
entering of your password, you will hear three beeps and the computer will 
continue booting.

I actually have the opposite problem to you, my computer doesn’t shutdown since 
the upgrade to Siera.

Hth,
Jeff

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:38 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
> installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier 
> this evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding 
> and musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 10 
> seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts 
> itself off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it just 
> sit on charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
> Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
> Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> Thank you in advance,
> Gabe.
> 
> 
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RE: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Gabe,

 
Not sure what has happened there but I'd be inclined to try reinstalling again 
using the recovery that’s holding down command + R at start up  and hold those 
down for approx. 20 seconds, it doesn't need to be that long but I just do that 
to make sure it starts up in the correct mode.

Then step through the installation again as you would normally hopefully it 
will fix any issues you have with the current install and it wont wipe anything 
of youts.

 Good luck.

Cheers,


Simon f
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On Behalf Of Gabe Griffith
Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2017 8:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

Hi all,
I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier this 
evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding and 
musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 10 
seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts itself 
off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it just sit on 
charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance,
Gabe.


Sent from Gabe's iPhone

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Re: Play a folder in VLC on Mac, is this possible?

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


In vlc, press cmd O to bbring up the open dialog and select the folder 
that has the files you want.  Now that the foder is selected, select the 
opeen button and in a few seconds the files should start playing.  I do 
this all the timme if I have stuff I want to play.  HTH.



Matthew




On 01/08/2017 06:03 AM, Gary Price wrote:

Morning everyone!
It's Gary from Bolton here.

Asking this for my benefit but also for a friend and fellow member on this list.
I've got VLC installed on my Macbook Pro.
Is it possible to play a folder using this?
Asking because was doing some exploring last night, when I went into my Gary's 
Things folder on my external hard drive where all my things are located, VLC 
started playing a load of files I didn't even want it to!

I went on my desktop running Windows and did some research on the Internet 
through Google, the solution I found seems really complicated!
Creating a new folder, then dragging it into the media library!
I don't even know how to do this.

If playing a folder is too complicated, can anyone recommend a nice simple 
VoiceOver accessible player which will play all formats but let you open 
folders?

Thanks very much.
I look forward to any responses!
Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Macbook pro.

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Re: Od apple music Issue.

[Ray Foret jr]

Happened to me too.  The issue seems to be that some material will not play on 
Apple Music due to the fact that the owner of the material in question has not 
authorized their material to stream on Apple Music.  That’s my guess based both 
on what happened to me and your description.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> This isn’t VoiceOver specific but i hope some one can clarify things for me a 
> bit.
> I searched for one of my favorites on friday which actually are the Blues 
> Brothers.
> It came up with all results i wanted including the soundtrack for the movie.
> However to my surprise some songs didn’t play which made me first think that 
> there was a problem with The apple music service.
> But it wasn’t when i tried the same soundtrack album yesterday.
> That made me check the Itunes Store to see if they had the album there.
> And yes they did.
> And you know that you can listen to small amounts of the songs from the album 
> when you view the songs list?
> Now here on this album the songs that didn’t play on apple music wasn’t able 
> to priview in Itunes Store either.
> There was only a button named album only and when pressing that button 
> nothing happens.
> So i am wondering whats going on here?
> Why are some songs able to play and others can’t be found or are unplayable 
> in just one album?
> Any thoughts on this?
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Accessible camera for dog's collar

[Scott Granados]

The files are stored right to a card which are available with a standard 
reader.  I can’t speak for the GoPro specific software but once the files are 
in the Mac you can edit them in other tools as normal.  There’s a nice big 
button to press to start and stop recording and you can voice trigger the new 
one.  My assistant got one for Christmas and got this accessory package meant 
specifically for it that is quite the full setup.  He even has all these 
underwater housings.  I keep telling him when James Cameron picks him up I’m 
more than happy to carry his bag for him anywhere he needs to go.;). We use a 
bunch of these cameras on the drones as well especially the custom made ones so 
for what the original poster was wanting they will do just fine.  They are good 
enough though to do Comercial broadcasting with the right operator.  I need to 
improve my recovery record but if I can I”ll start putting them in rockets.  
Right now though we keep losing the rockets when they go out of site.  I need 
some sort of GPS tracker for the rocket retrieval because we lose them when 
their parachutes open but they blow down range miles .  I don’t want to lose a 
$500 Camera setup in the lake.:). I also have a 1/5th scale gas powered car 
that I mount GoPro cameras on.   We put a mount right where the driver would be 
so it looks like you’re looking out the windshield.  It will do about 70 MPH 
full out in a field or open area.  The 0 to 60 is also faster than just about 
any car.  It’s basically a small plastic truck with a chainsaw engine and a 
remote controller.:). I have some examples on youtube.






> On Jan 7, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah thinking about it,
> A go pro or similar type device would be the best option as it is a 
> rechargeable device so doesn’t need an external power supply and video 
> captured is saved on to an SD or Micro SD card so can be then transered on to 
> a computer
>  
> I’m not sure however how accessible the Go Pro desktop software products are 
> once you have the video saved to a computer etc.
>  
>  
> I know the similar device I had a look at the software for the device wasn’t 
> anywhere near usefull.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2017 7:30 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible camera for dog's collar
>  
> In the video he states the camera is a Go Pro. Interesting idea, though I am 
> not sure I would want to know all the times people ignored me.
>  
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> 
>  
> On Jan 7, 2017, at 5:46 AM, Adrienne Chalmers  > wrote:
>  
> Hello
>  
> Many of you may have seen this article about a blind person who attached a 
> camera to his guide dog’s collar to log discriminatory behaviour. 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-38027203 
> 
>  
> What I would like to know is if anyone has any experience of such devices and 
> can recommend one which is easily accessible in terms of its operation and 
> how to download relevant images either onto my iPhone, or my Mac.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Adrienne
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Od apple music Issue.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
This isn’t VoiceOver specific but i hope some one can clarify things for me a 
bit.
I searched for one of my favorites on friday which actually are the Blues 
Brothers.
It came up with all results i wanted including the soundtrack for the movie.
However to my surprise some songs didn’t play which made me first think that 
there was a problem with The apple music service.
But it wasn’t when i tried the same soundtrack album yesterday.
That made me check the Itunes Store to see if they had the album there.
And yes they did.
And you know that you can listen to small amounts of the songs from the album 
when you view the songs list?
Now here on this album the songs that didn’t play on apple music wasn’t able to 
priview in Itunes Store either.
There was only a button named album only and when pressing that button nothing 
happens.
So i am wondering whats going on here?
Why are some songs able to play and others can’t be found or are unplayable in 
just one album?
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
/A

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Re: What's Up application and Voiceover

[Scott Granados]

You don’t have to sell me Andrew.:). I work in telecommunications.  I know all 
about what happens on a very large scale.  The level of data collection is 
astounding.  Some of the more interesting encryption technologies seem pretty 
effective and were specifically referenced in the Snoden leak. I believe 
iMessage is encrypted but I’m not ready to bet money on that, it may be 
available somehow.  I do know WhatsApp will do exactly what you want to do with 
the end clients being able to authenticate end to end and you can rekey pretty 
aggressively.


> On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:16 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Scott, the encryption feature is very important to me.  There's 
> another app called Signal, available from the App store which also provides 
> end to end encryption between users of the same app.  But Signal is not yet 
> very common so whilst I have got it, not many of my contacts do and I've 
> realised that lots of people don't care much about privacy in this way so 
> they don't go out looking for the applications like Signal.  And yet, our 
> communications are increasingly gathered by various agencies and kept.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 8 Jan 2017, at 02:16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> One other strong point in favor of WhatsApp is that it uses verifiable 
>> strong cryptography end to end.  You can if needed use the key verification 
>> system to insure the tunnel is secure but WhatsApp defaults to a very strong 
>> / safe level of operation.  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Andrew.
>>> 
>>> Let me give you a few examples why one might want to use Waht's App or the 
>>> Apple IOS messaging.
>>> 
>>> First, I use What's App if someone does not have an I phone because whilst 
>>> I might have a plan that has unlimited texts, I often or not use What's app 
>>> for that.
>>> 
>>> Second, If someone does not have an I phone and I can't use Audio face time 
>>> (as that is free) although I might have a calling plan, if you have wifi 
>>> enabled or that you are out and about and you have a good internet plan 
>>> anyway, you might use What's App to save on your calling voice minutes as 
>>> you might not have a lot of those.
>>> 
>>> So for instance, I try and not use my calling minutes on my phone and will 
>>> use What's app if someone does not have an I phone or I'll use Audio face 
>>> time if I'm going to call someone on their I phone.  Of course, you can 
>>> only do this if you have a good internet plan from your provider.
>>> 
>>> I am on Three and get unlimited internet and use that more than my calling 
>>> minutes.  This really helps me to not spend anything than my money on my 
>>> contract which means as my contract costs £20 a month then that is what I'm 
>>> using.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 7 Jan 2017, at 18:34, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Listers,
 
 Could you please give me some feedback on your experience with What's Up 
 application and Voiceover performance?  What's the difference between 
 What's Up and the native iOS messaging app?  Any advantages of the former?
 
 Many thanks
 
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Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection Announcements, But .

[Mary Otten]

US and Canada only, unfortunately.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is the nearby explorer app US only?
> /A
>> 7 jan. 2017 kl. 19:34 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> The problem you are describing is one that all of the GPS programs have, 
>> because the point that they are looking at is not the door, but some other 
>> arbitrary point that has been said by the folks to make a Maps. If you have 
>> a program such as nearby explorer, you can set your own point, which would 
>> be the door or whatever you were trying to find. And the "Geo beam" feature 
>> is very helpful here as well. But the first time you go to the store or the 
>> restaurant, of course you won't have set that point. So you would be in the 
>> same fix that you would be in if you were using the regular apple maps. The 
>> nice thing about these programs is the ability to set these favorites, but 
>> of course you have to set them before you can use them.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been considering Blind Square for the past 6 months, but was not 
>>> sure about if accuracy was sufficient. Transit and MoveIt transit services 
>>> work in my area, and generally my Guide Dog gets me to places I have been 
>>> before with little difficulty. However when there is a restaurant I read 
>>> about on yelp, or a specific store I want to visit in a downtown block, I 
>>> find that maps gets me near the street address, but then finding the door 
>>> can be quite an adventure. This is especially true in suburban areas where 
>>> there are large parking lots around an office building. If I got Near By 
>>> Explorer or BlindSquare would I be more likely to find the entrance I want 
>>> without assistance?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:18 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Apple is using many more sources for map and POI data. I just read through 
 the list.
 
 I have been using Maps primarily for the type of walking you described for 
 a few years now. I also use BlindSquare for the same purpose, but maps is 
 often more accurate.
 
 As for POIs, I submitted a business location / name correction a couple 
 months ago, and Apple accepted the correction within a day. Google Maps 
 allows the same sort of data correction submissions.
 
 Kind regards,
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +61 488 988 936
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 6/01/2017, at 20:32, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,   
> 
> I was just experimenting with the native iOS Maps app today and, as many 
> of
> you already know, if one sets the tracking feature to, "On+Heading", then
> places VoiceOver focus on the, "My Location", area of the screen, as one
> travels down a road, cross street names and intersection info is quite
> accurately announced.
> 
> In fact, I enjoy this feature so much so that I am beginning to use the 
> Maps
> app instead of Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer, when merely traveling 
> down
> a street, with no particular destination in mind.  
> 
> There is, however, kind of a drawback in using the Maps app for 
> intersection
> announcements, as least as far as I am concerned; said drawback being 
> that,
> in addition to accurately providing intersection information, such as the
> names of cross streets, Maps also continuously announces 
> points-of-interests
> as they are passed.  For me, this is too much information, especially when
> traveling in a vehicle as the announcements become somewhat cluttered.  My
> personal preference would be to have intersection/cross street
> announcements, only.
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a way to disable POI announcements in Maps?  
> 
> If POI announcements could be disabled, in the scenario I have described
> above, then the native iOS Maps app could quite easily make it possible 
> for
> those of us who are visually challenged to enjoy basic GPS navigation
> without having to incur additional cost by purchasing third-party GPS
> navigation solutions.
> 
> I hope that those of you who participate in the iOS beta program will pass
> this topic and suggestion along to Apple developers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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Re: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Scott Granados]

+1, this is file vault.  On the 2011 models unfortunately, I don’t believe 
voice is supported, I think you have to work with the beeps.

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible that you have File Vault enabled?  If so, the beep you here is 
> the prompt to enter your username.  If you are successful, you will hear two 
> more beeps.  This is the queue to enter your password.  Upon successful 
> entering of your password, you will hear three beeps and the computer will 
> continue booting.
> 
> I actually have the opposite problem to you, my computer doesn’t shutdown 
> since the upgrade to Siera.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:38 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
>> installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier 
>> this evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding 
>> and musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 
>> 10 seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts 
>> itself off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it 
>> just sit on charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
>> Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
>> Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Gabe.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Gabe's iPhone
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Re: The Native iOS Maps App Provides Excellent Intersection Announcements, But .

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Is the nearby explorer app US only?
/A
> 7 jan. 2017 kl. 19:34 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> The problem you are describing is one that all of the GPS programs have, 
> because the point that they are looking at is not the door, but some other 
> arbitrary point that has been said by the folks to make a Maps. If you have a 
> program such as nearby explorer, you can set your own point, which would be 
> the door or whatever you were trying to find. And the "Geo beam" feature is 
> very helpful here as well. But the first time you go to the store or the 
> restaurant, of course you won't have set that point. So you would be in the 
> same fix that you would be in if you were using the regular apple maps. The 
> nice thing about these programs is the ability to set these favorites, but of 
> course you have to set them before you can use them.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
>> I have been considering Blind Square for the past 6 months, but was not sure 
>> about if accuracy was sufficient. Transit and MoveIt transit services work 
>> in my area, and generally my Guide Dog gets me to places I have been before 
>> with little difficulty. However when there is a restaurant I read about on 
>> yelp, or a specific store I want to visit in a downtown block, I find that 
>> maps gets me near the street address, but then finding the door can be quite 
>> an adventure. This is especially true in suburban areas where there are 
>> large parking lots around an office building. If I got Near By Explorer or 
>> BlindSquare would I be more likely to find the entrance I want without 
>> assistance?
>> 
>>  
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:18 AM, David Chittenden >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> Apple is using many more sources for map and POI data. I just read through 
>>> the list.
>>> 
>>> I have been using Maps primarily for the type of walking you described for 
>>> a few years now. I also use BlindSquare for the same purpose, but maps is 
>>> often more accurate.
>>> 
>>> As for POIs, I submitted a business location / name correction a couple 
>>> months ago, and Apple accepted the correction within a day. Google Maps 
>>> allows the same sort of data correction submissions.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 6/01/2017, at 20:32, M. Taylor > 
 wrote:
 
 Hello All,   
 
 I was just experimenting with the native iOS Maps app today and, as many of
 you already know, if one sets the tracking feature to, "On+Heading", then
 places VoiceOver focus on the, "My Location", area of the screen, as one
 travels down a road, cross street names and intersection info is quite
 accurately announced.
 
 In fact, I enjoy this feature so much so that I am beginning to use the 
 Maps
 app instead of Seeing Eye GPS or Nearby Explorer, when merely traveling 
 down
 a street, with no particular destination in mind.  
 
 There is, however, kind of a drawback in using the Maps app for 
 intersection
 announcements, as least as far as I am concerned; said drawback being that,
 in addition to accurately providing intersection information, such as the
 names of cross streets, Maps also continuously announces 
 points-of-interests
 as they are passed.  For me, this is too much information, especially when
 traveling in a vehicle as the announcements become somewhat cluttered.  My
 personal preference would be to have intersection/cross street
 announcements, only.
 
 Does anyone know if there is a way to disable POI announcements in Maps?  
 
 If POI announcements could be disabled, in the scenario I have described
 above, then the native iOS Maps app could quite easily make it possible for
 those of us who are visually challenged to enjoy basic GPS navigation
 without having to incur additional cost by purchasing third-party GPS
 navigation solutions.
 
 I hope that those of you who participate in the iOS beta program will pass
 this topic and suggestion along to Apple developers.
 
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Re: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Jonathan Cohn]

File Vault is probably what is going on here. You can on at least some 
computers turn on voice prompts for the FileVault login with command F5. But 
certainly the fact that it powers off without really booting is what happens to 
me if I don't enter Username/Password after power on.


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Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 8, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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> Is it possible that you have File Vault enabled?  If so, the beep you here is 
> the prompt to enter your username.  If you are successful, you will hear two 
> more beeps.  This is the queue to enter your password.  Upon successful 
> entering of your password, you will hear three beeps and the computer will 
> continue booting.
> 
> I actually have the opposite problem to you, my computer doesn’t shutdown 
> since the upgrade to Siera.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
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>> Hi all,
>> I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
>> installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier 
>> this evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding 
>> and musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 
>> 10 seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts 
>> itself off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it 
>> just sit on charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
>> Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
>> Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Gabe.
>> 
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Re: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Jeff Berwick]

Is it possible that you have File Vault enabled?  If so, the beep you here is 
the prompt to enter your username.  If you are successful, you will hear two 
more beeps.  This is the queue to enter your password.  Upon successful 
entering of your password, you will hear three beeps and the computer will 
continue booting.

I actually have the opposite problem to you, my computer doesn’t shutdown since 
the upgrade to Siera.

Hth,
Jeff

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 2:38 AM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
> installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier 
> this evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding 
> and musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 10 
> seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts 
> itself off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it just 
> sit on charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
> Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
> Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> Thank you in advance,
> Gabe.
> 
> 
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Re: Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[E.T.]

   Look inside your library folder, Application Support, Preferences.

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  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
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On 1/8/2017 2:41 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the speech rate in 
the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I can't set it back to normal 
with the command+Right arrow combination. So I'd like to delete all the 
settings for the client but I can't figure out where they keep those settings. 
I checked in user/library/application support but I don't see a folder for it. 
Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. If anyone can help me track down 
where they keep their settings file, I'd greatly appreciate it. I can't play 
with excruciatingly slow speech, that would drive me crazy. Thanks.

Shawn
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Re: Play a folder in VLC on Mac, is this possible?

[Erik Burggraaf]

I have not actually owned a mac for a few months now, but this always 
worked for me.  I stopped upgrading at Yosemity and possibly that makes a 
difference.  I always used column mode browsing, and maybe it selects 
folders in a specific way that vlc needs.  You can also try command shift 
O.  This brings up a more complex media locater dialog with a files and 
folders tab that might allow you to play folders if the standard one doesn't.


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On January 8, 2017 7:54:02 AM alia robinson  wrote:


that never worked for me, strange.

On Jan 8, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Actually,  It's even easier than that.
Within VLC, press command O for open.  Browse to the folder you want to 
play and press enter on it.


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Re: Play a folder in VLC on Mac, is this possible?

[alia robinson]

that never worked for me, strange.
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
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> Actually,  It's even easier than that.
> Within VLC, press command O for open.  Browse to the folder you want to play 
> and press enter on it.

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Re: Play a folder in VLC on Mac, is this possible?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Actually,  It's even easier than that.
Within VLC, press command O for open.  Browse to the folder you want to 
play and press enter on it.


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On January 8, 2017 7:43:37 AM alia robinson  wrote:

Yep, mouse down on the folder you want to play, mark it for drag/drop, and 
go to vlc and then mouse up on the drop here part of the window. if you 
don’t mouse down and up it won’t work.

On Jan 8, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Gary Price  wrote:

Morning everyone!
It's Gary from Bolton here.

Asking this for my benefit but also for a friend and fellow member on this 
list.

I've got VLC installed on my Macbook Pro.
Is it possible to play a folder using this?


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Re: Play a folder in VLC on Mac, is this possible?

[alia robinson]

Yep, mouse down on the folder you want to play, mark it for drag/drop, and go 
to vlc and then mouse up on the drop here part of the window. if you don’t 
mouse down and up it won’t work.
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 6:03 AM, Gary Price  wrote:
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> Morning everyone!
> It's Gary from Bolton here.
> 
> Asking this for my benefit but also for a friend and fellow member on this 
> list.
> I've got VLC installed on my Macbook Pro.
> Is it possible to play a folder using this?

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Accessible camera for dog's collar

[Adrienne Chalmers]

Hi all

No, I’m not planning to use it all the time, it might be a bit depressing. 
However, there is a particular circumstance I can think of where it might be 
helpful.

It seems Go Pro is the way to go so thanks

Adrienne

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Play a folder in VLC on Mac, is this possible?

[Gary Price]

Morning everyone!
It's Gary from Bolton here.

Asking this for my benefit but also for a friend and fellow member on this list.
I've got VLC installed on my Macbook Pro.
Is it possible to play a folder using this?
Asking because was doing some exploring last night, when I went into my Gary's 
Things folder on my external hard drive where all my things are located, VLC 
started playing a load of files I didn't even want it to!

I went on my desktop running Windows and did some research on the Internet 
through Google, the solution I found seems really complicated!
Creating a new folder, then dragging it into the media library!
I don't even know how to do this.

If playing a folder is too complicated, can anyone recommend a nice simple 
VoiceOver accessible player which will play all formats but let you open 
folders?

Thanks very much.
I look forward to any responses!
Gary Price
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Where Are Settings Files For RS Games For Mac Located?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey guys. I was playing RS Games and I was trying to correct the speech rate in 
the game. I ended up setting it too slow and now I can't set it back to normal 
with the command+Right arrow combination. So I'd like to delete all the 
settings for the client but I can't figure out where they keep those settings. 
I checked in user/library/application support but I don't see a folder for it. 
Deleting the client itself didn't do anything. If anyone can help me track down 
where they keep their settings file, I'd greatly appreciate it. I can't play 
with excruciatingly slow speech, that would drive me crazy. Thanks.

Shawn
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Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
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Re: What's Up application and Voiceover

[Andrew Lamanche]

Thanks, Scott, the encryption feature is very important to me.  There's another 
app called Signal, available from the App store which also provides end to end 
encryption between users of the same app.  But Signal is not yet very common so 
whilst I have got it, not many of my contacts do and I've realised that lots of 
people don't care much about privacy in this way so they don't go out looking 
for the applications like Signal.  And yet, our communications are increasingly 
gathered by various agencies and kept.

Andrew
> On 8 Jan 2017, at 02:16, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> One other strong point in favor of WhatsApp is that it uses verifiable strong 
> cryptography end to end.  You can if needed use the key verification system 
> to insure the tunnel is secure but WhatsApp defaults to a very strong / safe 
> level of operation.  
> 
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew.
>> 
>> Let me give you a few examples why one might want to use Waht's App or the 
>> Apple IOS messaging.
>> 
>> First, I use What's App if someone does not have an I phone because whilst I 
>> might have a plan that has unlimited texts, I often or not use What's app 
>> for that.
>> 
>> Second, If someone does not have an I phone and I can't use Audio face time 
>> (as that is free) although I might have a calling plan, if you have wifi 
>> enabled or that you are out and about and you have a good internet plan 
>> anyway, you might use What's App to save on your calling voice minutes as 
>> you might not have a lot of those.
>> 
>> So for instance, I try and not use my calling minutes on my phone and will 
>> use What's app if someone does not have an I phone or I'll use Audio face 
>> time if I'm going to call someone on their I phone.  Of course, you can only 
>> do this if you have a good internet plan from your provider.
>> 
>> I am on Three and get unlimited internet and use that more than my calling 
>> minutes.  This really helps me to not spend anything than my money on my 
>> contract which means as my contract costs £20 a month then that is what I'm 
>> using.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 7 Jan 2017, at 18:34, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers,
>>> 
>>> Could you please give me some feedback on your experience with What's Up 
>>> application and Voiceover performance?  What's the difference between 
>>> What's Up and the native iOS messaging app?  Any advantages of the former?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: Computer not booting after updating to Sierra

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Gabe,

You might want to try booting into recovery partition and performing "first 
aid" on your macintosh hard drive to make sure it's not damaged. 

To boot into recovery partition, shut down the computer, and press the power 
button while holding down command+r.  Hold these two keys for a good half a 
minute, and then release them.  Your mac should be booting into recovery 
partition.  Wait for at least a couple of minutes and then activate voiceover 
with command+f5.  This is necessary because voiceover doesn't come on 
automatically when booting into recovery.  Voiceover may take good 10 seconds 
for voiceover to start speaking depending on how fast your machine is so be 
patient.  If voiceover doesn't come on, repeat the command+f5 combination 
because the machine might not have been ready for this command yet first time 
round.

Once you have voiceover, you will find in the window a table of choices. 
Interact with the table and select "disc utility', and then stop interacting 
and press continue button to the right of the table.  Once disc utility has 
loaded,  you will find another table with all the available discs.  Interact 
with the table and select your hard drive, macintosh hd.  Stop interacting and 
vo to the left to land on the toolbar.  Interact with the toolbar and choose 
"first aid" button.  My mind's not clear now as to the exact wording of the 
next button you press but it will be rather obvious, something like repair.  Go 
ahead.  If you expand the dialog, you may be able to see in the table what is 
being done.  Once "first aid" is performed, the "done" button will become 
available and undimmed and you can close the dialog and close disc utility and 
press vm+m for the apple menu and choose restart the computer.

Gabe, from the recovery partition, if you look at the first table of choices 
the fourth of which was disc utility, you can also reinstall your operating 
system or recover it.  So maybe it's something to consider later if "first aid 
has n't worked.

Another thing to try is to reset PRAM.  This is tricky to perform as you have 
to hold down many keys together while pressing the power button.  Shut down 
your computer, then hold down, control+option+p+r and holding them all down 
press the power button.  Continue to hold until you hear the starting chime 3 
times and then release them.  This sometimes sorts out all kind of strange 
issues.

Maybe others will chip in as well, I hope.  

Good luck

Andrew
> On 8 Jan 2017, at 07:38, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I finally updated my 2011 MacBook Pro to Sierra yesterday. When it was done 
> installing it booted up and I used it. I didn't shut it down until earlier 
> this evening. A little later when I went to turn it on it gives the grinding 
> and musical tone that it always has when booting up. However, within about 10 
> seconds it gives a beep and then within about two or three minutes shuts 
> itself off. I've tried booting it a couple of times and have also let it just 
> sit on charge for about an hour. It is still doing it the same thing.
> Does anyone have any idea what is going on and what this means?
> Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> Thank you in advance,
> Gabe.
> 
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