RE: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS K N F B Reader App

[M. Taylor]

Hello Michael and thank you for your kind reply.

I resolved the problem by uninstalling the app, then rebooting the phone, then, 
reinstalling the app.  Now, it works as expected.

Thanks again for your very kind sentiment.  

I truly do appreciate it.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Busboom
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:52 AM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS 
K N F B Reader App

Hello Mark,

I, too, have the latest iOS and KNFB versions, but I am not encountering the 
same issue.  Just to be sure, when I ran the app, I changed the voices for my 
iPhone/VO output language as well as the OCR language.  It worked seamlessly 
for me.

You are always very helpful on the list, and that makes me sorry that in this 
instance I can’t reciprocate.

Good luck, and I hope you find a solution soon.

Mike

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:20, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am running the latest version of the K N F B Reader app on my iPhone 
> with the latest version of iOS.
> 
> Try as I may, I cannot get the app to successfully switch to any other 
> TTS reading voice but Samantha, Enhanced.
> 
> When I attempt to switch the reading voice to UK English, Daniel, 
> Enhanced, for example, all I hear is the default Samantha voice.
> 
> Does anyone know how to successfully switch voices in K N F B Reader?  
> 
> Just so you know, my default VoiceOver TTS is Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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RE: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[M. Taylor]

Everyone,

Please take this topic, off-list.

Do not continue this thread by replying to it.

Thank you,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 6:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

well...not exactly in one case from that sentence. smiles.
Karen


On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Spoilier alert,
> Dragon dies and and john snow gets it on with the calesie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Saturday, 9 September 2017 8:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>
> Hi Eileen,
> I am in Toronto, we get entirely different editions in our libraries.  I 
> would  guess that perhaps it might be the same one you find in your library 
> editions for other television works?
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>
>> Hi Karen,
>>
>> I am in NJ. What is the abbreviation they are using now for video 
>> description? DVS or DV or a.d.v.? Thanks.
>>
>> Eileen
>>
>> From: Karen Lewellen
>> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:36 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>>
>> Hi Eileen,
>> Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located.
>> However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the 
>> entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the 
>> descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this 
>> normally, if the series is in your library I mean.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Kare
>>
>>
>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his 
>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, 
>> and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love 
>> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson 
>> Mandela.
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
>>> telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD 
>>> from my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if 
>>> the DVD had audio description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac 
>>> book using DVD player. I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the 
>>> DVS option if its available.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Eileen
>>>
>>> From: Karen Lewellen
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>>>
>>> where are you getting this from?
>>> Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as 
>>> I would with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his 
>>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to 
>>> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... 
>>> For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." 
>>> Nelson Mandela.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>>
 Hello.
 I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
 If you want it please contact me off list.
 I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up 
 an email list or drop box folder let me know.
 Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
 Regards.
 Nektarios.

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
>
> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
> where are you getting it from?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the 
>> enclosed link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader.
>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
 On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  
 wrote:

 I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so 
 please reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series 
 but find it very confusing without narration.

 Eric

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>
> Hello all!
>
> Sorry for this off topic, I 

RE: What's the best method for changing the connected device with the air pods?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

I can transfer from my phone to my watch by going into the watch settings and 
Bluetooth then tapping on the watch.

 But this is using IOS 11 on my phone and watch os 3.2.3 
So the ability is now there but as david said watch os 4 may correct this issue 
completely.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Friday, 8 September 2017 12:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the best method for changing the connected device with the 
air pods?

The only device I’m not running beta code on besides production work devices of 
course is my watch.  I bet that’s the problem and addressed in Watch OS 4.  
Good point I will do that.  Am I the only one missing multipoint support though?


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:33 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> As iOS 11, and iOS Watch 4 are both coming out within a week or so, might I 
> suggest you wait a short while about the Air Pods? Apple has admitted the bug 
> in connecting to the Apple Watch with the Air Pods whilst running VoiceOver. 
> My hope is that this glitch is corrected then.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8/09/2017, at 10:14, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So I’ve done some reading and am not finding much.  I’m wondering what 
>> people are using for a work flow here.  Say I’m connected to my iPhone and I 
>> want to connect to my Mac, is the only way to do this to use the bluetooth 
>> menu and select connect under the AirPods tree?  How about connecting back 
>> to the phone is there an easier method than going to settings, bluetooth and 
>> double tapping AirPods?  I read something about the control center but I 
>> can’t find the control.
>>   Here’s another question, suppose I’m on the Mac paired and my phone rings, 
>> how do I get the phone to easily connect directly to the pods?  Should I 
>> just use FaceTime and handle the call over WiFi?  The lack of meaningful 
>> multipoint support is less than optimal.  What do you think any suggestions 
>> for optimizing my experience?  And I’ll be damned if I can’t figure out how 
>> to get the pods to work with the watch.  I’ve tried the power cycling and 
>> was going to try a full reset and initial pair again but that seems 
>> excessive.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I love the audio and the 
>> use of the pods with the censors and detection of things automatically is 
>> really something.  I love the charging case as well.  I just don’t get the 
>> lack of multipoint support.  I wonder if multipoint like APTX is property of 
>> Qualcomm.  That in itself may explain things, I know it explains the lack of 
>> APTX at least from what I’ve read.  I have not tried enabling apex 
>> personally.
>> 
>> Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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RE: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm only noticing a problem when trying to connect the pods to my phone 
It doesn't always work as it should.
Think I might take them in to get looked at.


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On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2017 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

Hi:
I haven't noticed a delay on my iPhone 6s.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 8:42 AM
To: “Mac Visionaries“ 
Subject: Do Airpods Have a Delay?

I need to get some new headphones. I'm deciding between the Airpods, or Bose QC 
20i.

I'm hesitant to get the Airpods, because in the past, bluetooth has always had 
a noticible delay. Do the Airpods still have this issue?

This will be for an iMac.

Thanks,
Brandon

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Invitation to live stream presentation to make 3d games accessible

[Simon Fogarty]

Hye Yuma,

Are you in AUstrailia or just travelling to brisbain
For this presentation?

Good luck with it I’ll be attempting to listen ing.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 9:36 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Invitation to live stream presentation to make 3d games accessible


Hi all,

I will be speaking in front of mac and IOS developers here in Brisbane to push 
the case for baked in accessibility to all games on the app store.

I will also show some of the tools and techniques everyone can use so that our 
community can enjoy sophisticated 3d games such as mmorpgs or big titles such 
as fallout 4 or witcher and release those tools to push for entertainment that 
everyone deserves to enjoy. Please follow the link below for more info on the 
live stream.

https://www.facebook.com/events/864376623739165??ti=ia

I hope that as the event takes place at the center of Brisbane’s tech hub, many 
developers will take notice and really engage with our community to take us out 
of the dark ages of audio games into many fun and educational experiences which 
can greatly benefit us in the very near future.

Have a great day y’all
 Sent  from sputnik7
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RE: Social Media and Preparedness

[Simon Fogarty]

Well it's making a  mess of the carribian!

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 4:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Social Media and Preparedness

Last week someone put out a fake story that Irma was headed straight for 
Texas when the weather professionals themselves were saying it was impossible 
to predict its path so far out. Even now, its still up in the air as to where 
it will go.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/4/2017 9:03 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yeah.  You just need to be discerning.  Sadly, there's always going to be 
> garbage out there and we need to learn how to weed through the fake news and 
> other such trolling behaviour and look for the valid stuff.  It's not just 
> social media that puts out invalid stories, just watch the History Channel.  
> Lots of their material is awesome, but they also show made-up material as 
> well, and the puny little disclaimer is often difficult to notice by sighted 
> folks let alone people like us.
> 
> Oh well, I digress.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 4, 2017, at 09:51, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>This is what is swinging me around to use the apps. You would probably 
> agree the benefits outweigh the garbage. I have friends in Texas who felt the 
> power of Harvey but were far enough away to be safe.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 9/4/2017 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> FaceBook has a nice feature that lets people know that you're safe during an 
>> emergency situation.  Last year during the evacuation of Fort McMurray due 
>> to the wildfire, a notification popped into our FaceBook feed stating 
>> something to the nature of "Let your friends and family know your safe".  We 
>> were able to let all our FaceBook contacts know that we had made it out 
>> safely and were OK.  This was a huge relief for many of our friends and 
>> family as they followed the scary news of the event.  Now, this certainly 
>> isn't foolproof as one needs a device like an iPhone, and some sort of 
>> method by which you can connect to FaceBook, like active cell towers, in 
>> order for this to be of any service.  But it is very useful in my opinion.  
>> This, along with follow-up groups etc gave me a new appreciation for the 
>> power of social media like FaceBook during emergency events.  Granted, 
>> there's a ton of garbage on FaceBook and other social media platforms, but 
>> this feature certainly was positive.
>> Later...
>>   Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Sep 4, 2017, at 09:08, lenron brown  wrote:
>> I love Youtube so much cool and fun stuff there. I tend to use 
>> twitter for a lot of my social media needs. I kind of work like you 
>> Scott when it comes to Social media. Gave up on facebook last year 
>> for the most part. I might log in every now and then.
>> On 9/4/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> I find it really difficult to cut a line of facebook or twitter on a 
>>> mirror and then snort it through my straw.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Monday, 4 September 2017 3:19 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Social Media and Preparedness
>>>
>>> I don’t find it addicting but that’s me.  I think the closest I get 
>>> is I do like watching content on youtube and other video sources but 
>>> I’m more of a passive user of social media.  I get news aggregated 
>>> on twitter and so forth.
>>>
>>>
 On Sep 3, 2017, at 10:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   Thanks that did help. I promise myself I will not become addicted 
 to this. (smiles)

  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the  mysteries of the 
 world, all the challenges to  our intelligence. You simply turn 
 your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

 On 9/3/2017 6:41 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> O in my opinion Facebook is what you would use to stay connected 
> with your family and friends and twitter would be the best for 
> gathering news and staying informed.  You could follow the news 
> sites or aggregators you want and quickly get the 

RE: The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey Scott 

They are all ready with us,
Very hard to find but they do exist.

It's called a wife or girl friend, these are the basic models 
The really up market models are the ones that can do things like change tires 
or build a house or weld or pretty much anything that till recently has been 
considered mans work, 
This has been replaced by women that can do just about anything.

 A great invention of modern times.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 4:04 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET

I want something like R2D2 that could do my soldering for me and be like your 
robot mechanic little buddy.  

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:09 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> That would be awesome I would totally want to buy one.
> 
> On 9/4/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> Ok, I'm interested in the fridge that rolls around after the user.
>> 
>> How great would that be at a party?
>> 
>> Hey fridge, I need a new drink!
>> And there it is with a cold beverage in your hand...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, 3 September 2017 5:11 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am posting the following article as a general interest piece as I 
>> think it important for us to be aware of new and exciting technology 
>> that may, some day, affect us all.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> The coolest, best and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET
>> 
>> CNET News - Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 4:00 AM The coolest, best 
>> and strangest tech of IFA 2017 - CNET If you want all the hottest new 
>> tech gathered in one place, you want IFA.
>> CNET spent the week in Berlin for this year's edition of the 
>> long-enduring tech trade show to find out what we'll be talking about 
>> over the next 12 months.
>> IFA 2017 featured companies coming up with a vast range of 
>> increasingly connected, increasingly smart and increasingly voice-controlled 
>> devices.
>> Amazon's Alexa dominated the show by appearing in a wealth of 
>> products that talk back to you, while products in the burgeoning 
>> smart home section ranged from the very useful to the increasingly 
>> wacky (like appliances with multiple doors and a mobile mini fridge that 
>> trundles round after you).
>> Voice control
>> As with CES back in January, Alexa has been the talk of the show, so 
>> to speak. We've counted 24 products (so far) introducing Alexa support here.
>> Third-party device support for Alexa has flourished in the US, and 
>> the trend appears to be continuing in Germany. You can ask smart 
>> speakers, docks and TVs like the Lenovo Home Assistant or Toshiba 4K 
>> tellies to play music or movies, or you can order robots like the 
>> Bosch Roxxter vacuum and LG Lawn Mower to take care of your chores. 
>> Here's a full list of Alexa-powered products.
>> Amazon also announced this week that Alexa will soon be able to talk 
>> to Microsoft's Cortana, a rival voice system. A few products also 
>> opted to integrate multiple voice systems: The Moto X4 and LG V30 
>> smartphones, for instance, offer Alexa as well as Google Assistant. 
>> Here's a list of Google Assistant devices from IFA.
>> Then there's audio brand Harman, which has elected to put Alexa into 
>> the high-end Harman Kardon Allure speaker and Google Assistant into 
>> the cheaper JBL Link -- make of that what you will.
>> Phones
>> If you're an aspiring or full-time YouTuber or Instagrammer, the LG 
>> V30 may be the phone for you thanks to its nifty video and photo features.
>> For the rest of us, the feature-packed Moto X4 does a little bit of 
>> everything. It has two cameras (with flash for selfies), 
>> water-proofing, Amazon Alexa and Bluetooth that connects to four 
>> speakers or headphones to get the party started.
>> And while voice-controlled smartphones are hurtling into the next 
>> generation of interface, you'll be pleased to hear BlackBerry is 
>> catching up with the last generation, announcing an all-touchscreen phone 
>> for later this year.
>> Virtual, augmented, mixed reality
>> Let's get real for a moment -- but are we talking virtual reality, 
>> augmented reality or mixed reality? Various new headsets were 
>> launched at IFA to give you a range of VR, AR and MR.
>> Asus, Acer, Dell and HP are all producing Windows Mixed Reality 
>> headsets, but Lenovo's Explorer sounds like the most fun. It has 
>> scored a deal to create a lightsaber controller for Star Wars Jedi 
>> swordfights in VR.
>> Smart homes
>> The appliance side of the show held a few surprises. Laundry care was 
>> a major highlight at 

RE: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Karen Lewellen]

well...not exactly in one case from that sentence. smiles.
Karen


On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Simon Fogarty wrote:


Spoilier alert,
Dragon dies and and john snow gets it on with the calesie

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Saturday, 9 September 2017 8:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

Hi Eileen,
I am in Toronto, we get entirely different editions in our libraries.  I would  
guess that perhaps it might be the same one you find in your library editions 
for other television works?
Karen



On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:


Hi Karen,

I am in NJ. What is the abbreviation they are using now for video description? 
DVS or DV or a.d.v.? Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

Hi Eileen,
Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located.
However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the
entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the
descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this
normally, if the series is in your library I mean.
Hope this helps,
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin
or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and
if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love
comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
Mandela.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:


I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD from 
my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the DVD 
had audio description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac book using 
DVD player. I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS option if 
its available.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

where are you getting this from?
Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I
would with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate,
and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love
comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
Mandela.

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:


Hello.
I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
If you want it please contact me off list.
I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
email list or drop box folder let me know.
Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
Regards.
Nektarios.


On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And where 
are you getting it from?

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the
enclosed link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad

On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu

On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so please reply 
on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but find it very 
confusing without narration.

Eric

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

Hello all!

Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if anybody 
can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English and audio 
described. Is it possible somehow?

In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, but not 
the 7 season.

Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this is an 
off topic.

Have a great day!

Best, Daniela.


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RE: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Simon Fogarty]

Spoilier alert,
 Dragon dies and and john snow gets it on with the calesie 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Saturday, 9 September 2017 8:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

Hi Eileen,
I am in Toronto, we get entirely different editions in our libraries.  I would  
guess that perhaps it might be the same one you find in your library editions 
for other television works?
Karen



On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
> I am in NJ. What is the abbreviation they are using now for video 
> description? DVS or DV or a.d.v.? Thanks.
>
> Eileen
>
> From: Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>
> Hi Eileen,
> Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located.
> However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the 
> entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the 
> descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this 
> normally, if the series is in your library I mean.
> Hope this helps,
> Kare
>
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin 
> or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and 
> if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love 
> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson 
> Mandela.
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:
>
>> I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
>> telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD 
>> from my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if 
>> the DVD had audio description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac 
>> book using DVD player. I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the 
>> DVS option if its available.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eileen
>>
>> From: Karen Lewellen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>>
>> where are you getting this from?
>> Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I 
>> would with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
>> Karen
>>
>>
>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his 
>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, 
>> and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love 
>> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson 
>> Mandela.
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
>>> If you want it please contact me off list.
>>> I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up 
>>> an email list or drop box folder let me know.
>>> Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
>>> Regards.
>>> Nektarios.
>>>
 On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

 Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
 where are you getting it from?

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  
> wrote:
>
> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the 
> enclosed link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so 
>>> please reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but 
>>> find it very confusing without narration.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

 Hello all!

 Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
 anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English 
 and audio described. Is it possible somehow?

 In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, 
 but not the 7 season.

 Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this 
 is an off topic.

 Have a great day!

 Best, Daniela.


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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Eileen,
I am in Toronto, we get entirely different editions in our libraries.  I 
would  guess that perhaps it might be the same one you find in your 
library editions for other television works?

Karen



On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:


Hi Karen,

I am in NJ. What is the abbreviation they are using now for video description? 
DVS or DV or a.d.v.? Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

Hi Eileen,
Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located.
However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the
entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the
descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this normally,
if the series is in your library I mean.
Hope this helps,
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:


Ive been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD from 
my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the DVD 
had audio description? I usually listen to these DVDs on my Mac book 
using DVD player. Im not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS 
option if its available.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

where are you getting this from?
Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I
would
with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:


Hello.
I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
If you want it please contact me off list.
I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
email list or drop box folder let me know.
Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
Regards.
Nektarios.


On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And where 
are you getting it from?

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed link 
was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad

On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu

On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so please reply 
on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but find it very 
confusing without narration.

Eric

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

Hello all!

Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if anybody 
can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English and audio 
described. Is it possible somehow?

In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, but not 
the 7 season.

Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this is an 
off topic.

Have a great day!

Best, Daniela.


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Re: opinions wanted.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Do you need all its features?
It can do a lot as you know but imho its likely that you only use 1% of its 
features anyway?
/A

> 7 sep. 2017 kl. 21:31 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Everything is working now with the embosser.
> 
> I did get it connected back up again and it's also connected to my Mac 
> wirelessly.
> 
> I didn't know what to do first even though I read the instructions so I had 
> to have a play.
> 
> So just in case you want to do it, here are the instructions.
> 
> Connect ethernet cable to your embosser when it's near your Mac machine.
> 
> Go to your wifi and network settings on your phone and you can add that to 
> your embosser.
> 
> The person at the time did it through his phone as I think he went to the 
> settings.  I don't know how.
> 
> So if you want to add your embosser to the Mac on the network:
> 
> Download the Indirect Braille driver from the index embosser website.
> 
> Install it in the usual way.
> 
> Then go to your printer and scanning preferences and add it.  You need to put 
> in the mac address for the embosser and select the index 4 by 4 from the list 
> of printers and then you are done.
> 
> For me it was trial and error.  But it works now.
> 
> Now I'm wondering if I should download the Duxbury demo for the Mac.
> 
> I bought Duxbury for windows but it was very expensive.  I bet the Mac one is 
> just the same.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 23:59, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I haven’t used the wifi method with my embosser yet.
>> Is it the Usb cable you have problems connecting or the power cable?
>> Its a bit tricky as you have to put it in from above.
>> Very odd so to speak.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 5 sep. 2017 kl. 23:27 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu >> >:
>>> 
>>> How does one install the driver please through wifi or what?  HOw does one 
>>> plug in the chord in to the unit as I'm having a lot of trouble.  Please.
 On 5 Sep 2017, at 20:02, Anders Holmberg > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 No windows needed for the Index embosser on the mac.
 There’s built-in  direct braille in that embosser so you only need to 
 install a driver and print from pages.
 /A
 
> 3 sep. 2017 kl. 12:44 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu  >:
> 
> Hi Nickus and all.
> 
> Thanks for those responses.
> 
> As of today, I don't have an I Mac anymore as I sold it.  As for my 
> MacMini, it's the late 2014 model.
> 
> I prefer to leave that in my bedroom although it's been moved down to my 
> lounge and it's taking up too much room on my desk, as my desk has to 
> share with my work windows lap top on the days that I work from home.
> 
> I hope to be able to update the I Mac line in 2018 once the next 
> announcements are made as to what hardware will be sold in 2018.  I don't 
> want to go back to windows though as I prefer the Mac Hardware as it's 
> quality.
> 
> When I do finally get a new I Mac, I'll be specking it up to it's full 
> potential as that is what I did with my last I Mac.
> 
> I'll probably be putting windows on it as I'll have a braille embosser, 
> with Duxbury of course.  The embosser is cross platform as it has 
> bluetooth and Wifi.  It's the Index V5 capable to work with the I phone 
> and Mac.  I'm just waiting for that to be delivered to me.
> 
> I haven't fully decided about putting windows on it but at least I'll be 
> able to print from the embosser.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.  
> 
>> Kawal, in the last few years apples roadmap have shown us that they 
>> don't update their desk top line every year like they do with the phones 
>> and iPads. With the iMac update we saw earlier this year and The iMac 
>> Pro coming in December, I doubt will see another iMac update till at 
>> least 2019. 
>> The Mac Mini haven't seen a update for quite awhile so it should update 
>> this year still or otherwise early next year, that's if Apple don't 
>> decide to discontinue it completely.
>> 
>> What age is your iMac and what age is your mini, and what are your daily 
>> computer needs? The age of your current machines and your usage pattern 
>> will allow me to give you some advice or my personal opinion anyway. 
>> 
>> Nickus
>> Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos...
>> 
>> On 02 Sep 2017, at 14:24, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I will have sold my I Mac by the end of next week beginning the 11th of 
>>> September.
>>> 
>>> I plan to buy a new I Mac next year as of now am using My 2014 MacMini.
>>> 
>>> What I 

Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Karen,

I am in NJ. What is the abbreviation they are using now for video description? 
DVS or DV or a.d.v.? Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 12:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

Hi Eileen,
Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located. 
However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the 
entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the 
descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this normally, 
if the series is in your library I mean.
Hope this helps,
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:

> I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
> telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD 
> from my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the 
> DVD had audio description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac book 
> using DVD player. I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS 
> option if its available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eileen
>
> From: Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?
>
> where are you getting this from?
> Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I
> would
> with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
> Karen
>
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>> I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
>> If you want it please contact me off list.
>> I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
>> email list or drop box folder let me know.
>> Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
>> Regards.
>> Nektarios.
>>
>>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
>>> where are you getting it from?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

 Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed 
 link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  
> wrote:
>
> Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
> https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so 
>> please reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but 
>> find it very confusing without narration.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
>>> anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English 
>>> and audio described. Is it possible somehow?
>>>
>>> In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, 
>>> but not the 7 season.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this 
>>> is an off topic.
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> Best, Daniela.
>>>
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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Eileen,
Now, this is just a guess, because I am unsure where you are located. 
However the DVD editions of Game of Thrones come out in a set for the 
entire season,  One of the DVD options should be the series with the 
descriptions.  basically it should work the same as you do this normally, 
if the series is in your library I mean.

Hope this helps,
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Eileen Scrivani wrote:


I???ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps 
telling me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD from 
my local public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the DVD 
had audio description? I usually listen to these DVD???s on my Mac book using 
DVD player. I???m not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS option if 
its available.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

where are you getting this from?
Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I
would
with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:


Hello.
I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
If you want it please contact me off list.
I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
email list or drop box folder let me know.
Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
Regards.
Nektarios.


On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And where 
are you getting it from?

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed link 
was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad

On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu

On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so please reply 
on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but find it very 
confusing without narration.

Eric

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

Hello all!

Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if anybody 
can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English and audio 
described. Is it possible somehow?

In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, but not 
the 7 season.

Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this is an 
off topic.

Have a great day!

Best, Daniela.


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Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Scott Granados]

Hi Karen,
We do agree. This is why I mentioned I have little room for 
intellectual property theft.  It’s a difficult balance.  On the one hand I’m 
all for observing copy rights and of course paying the artists for their hard 
work but some countries are so heavy handed.  I don’t know where that line is 
exactly but there is one there somewhere.  Piracy is no good though, no 
argument from me.

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> while  that is indeed an excellent point, there  are a good ten different 
> ways  such an exchange might have taken place,..most importantly without 
> posting a link to the contents on an entire list of people.  I might add that 
> the  person asking the question said nothing about informational oppression, 
> they stated that the show is available with Spanish descriptions, and  they 
> wanted English.
> To be sure, there  is a small chance that game of Thrones is restricted  in a 
> few Spanish speaking countries, the nudity might generate as much.
> Still, there was no need at all for the link to the contents  appearing for 
> everyone, now in the archives as well.
> Do not mistake me, I resonate with the dangers of limited cultural exposure, 
> echoing your concerns for journalistic freedom for example stateside.  yet, 
> an explanation of the reason, supporting our possible reasoning, followed by 
> an offer to privately share, while clearly and honestly  stating where the 
> description can be obtained legally, in my personal  view, would have been 
> better.
> Piracy of stolen artistic creations is a crime too.
> Kare
> 
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
> 
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Karen, technically you’re right but what I think he’s bumping in to is state 
>> sponsored censorship.  I could be wrong as I’m not exactly sure where the 
>> poster is from but I know in many countries content is banned and has to be 
>> spread using technologies that subvert the government controls.  A good 
>> example where I definitely know this is true is China.  A practical example 
>> of this is the Big Bang theory.  The show the Big Bang Theory is banned in 
>> China, yes Sheldon is off limits.;).  So many citizens of China use methods 
>> ranging from different torrents, VPNs, net news (remember that one), SSH 
>> tunnels and more to build a bridge to a point in the clear where things are 
>> freely available like we’re used to in the west.  (For now anyway). Also in 
>> these countries many copies are ripped and traded not necessarily to steal 
>> them although they are but because they have no other method for the content 
>> and one lesson we never seem to learn as a society and species is that 
>> markets will always find a way and demand will always find a supply.  
>> Whether it’s the absolute idiotic war on drugs, that foolish experiment that 
>> was repealed by the 21st amendment, or censorship a way is always found to 
>> fill the demand.  So while I definitely don’t support intellectual property 
>> theft, I am willing to cut folks in parts of the world where they aren’t as 
>> free some slack.  Also makes me appreciate what I have and where I live.  I 
>> think I’m inspired to go put some rounds down range, ah if it weren’t so 
>> late.;). I do think this is where the poster is going though.  Trade at your 
>> own risk and make your moral judgements accordingly.  I personally buy my 
>> content like it sounds like you do because I can and want to support the 
>> efforts of the artists but it’s easy for me to do so.  If I had to hide from 
>> Uncle Sam to watch my favorite show I might feel differently and have to 
>> take different steps.  It’s a big bad world out there.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So this is stolen property?
>>> I am not sure I understand the no other option idea.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
>>> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
>>> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
>>> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
>>> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there.
 I understand what you are saying, but I have no alternative or other 
 options where I live.
 As I said before, some stuff is available from the serotek network.
 Other things I am getting from friends. You can also  subscribe to Net 
 flix and they also have described content there.
 
 Nektarios.
 
 
> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:43, Karen Lewellen 

Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

[Eileen Scrivani]

I’ve been wanting to watch Game of Throwns on DVD since my sister keeps telling 
me its a really good show. However, I would like to get it on DVD from my local 
public library. So, does anyone know how I can determine if the DVD had audio 
description? I usually listen to these DVD’s on my Mac book using DVD player. 
I’m not sure what menu to check under to find the DVS option if its available.

Thanks.

Eileen

From: Karen Lewellen 
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: **OFFtoppic, Game of thrones season 7 audio described?

where are you getting this from?
Personally I prefer, *legal* sources,  and want to experience it as I 
would 
with  a DVD, i. e. not just the description  but dialogue etc.
Karen


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello.
> I have all seasons described in mp3 format.
> If you want it please contact me off list.
> I am also interested in other described content so, if someone can set up an 
> email list or drop box folder let me know.
> Since this is very much off topic I will not post other info here.
> Regards.
> Nektarios.
>
>> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:24, Eric Brinkman  wrote:
>>
>> Is the rest of the series available with audio description as well? And 
>> where are you getting it from?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry that last bit was meant for a different message, but the enclosed 
>>> link was indeed for GOT series 7 with ad
 On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

 Here you go, courtesy of Lee, our fearless leader. 
 https://www.sendspace.com/file/qlyjxu
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Eric Brinkman  
> wrote:
>
> I would like to watch this show with audio description as well, so please 
> reply on the list. I have been trying to get into the series but find it 
> very confusing without narration.
>
> Eric
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Sorry for this off topic, I never do it. But, just wanted to know if 
>> anybody can help me with this. I want to enjoy this TV show in English 
>> and audio described. Is it possible somehow?
>>
>> In Spain, we have  the six first seasons audio described in Spanish, but 
>> not the 7 season.
>>
>> Thanks for any reply, and if you want, please write in private as this 
>> is an off topic.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Best, Daniela.
>>
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Re: A Question About Changing/Selecting TTS Reading Voices in the iOS K N F B Reader App

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Mark,

I, too, have the latest iOS and KNFB versions, but I am not encountering the 
same issue.  Just to be sure, when I ran the app, I changed the voices for my 
iPhone/VO output language as well as the OCR language.  It worked seamlessly 
for me.

You are always very helpful on the list, and that makes me sorry that in this 
instance I can’t reciprocate.

Good luck, and I hope you find a solution soon.

Mike

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 23:20, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am running the latest version of the K N F B Reader app on my iPhone with
> the latest version of iOS.  
> 
> Try as I may, I cannot get the app to successfully switch to any other TTS
> reading voice but Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> When I attempt to switch the reading voice to UK English, Daniel, Enhanced,
> for example, all I hear is the default Samantha voice.  
> 
> Does anyone know how to successfully switch voices in K N F B Reader?  
> 
> Just so you know, my default VoiceOver TTS is Samantha, Enhanced.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
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