Re: Voiceover freezing in Mojave

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

I'm not getting that here and I've been beta testing mojave ever since it came 
out for developers.
 

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> On Sep 28, 2018, at 12:38 AM, kary johns  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a clue as to why voiceover stops working after a few minutes 
> on my Mac book pro?
> It’s only started doing this since I updated to Mojave last night.  I have to 
> toggle voiceover off and on, then close and open the screen before it will 
> start talking again.  Just toggling voiceover isn’t enough.  I’m using Alex 
> on a Mac book pro 15 inch 2018 with touch bar.  
> Thanks for any thoughts. 
> Kari. 
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Voiceover freezing in Mojave

[kary johns]

Does anyone have a clue as to why voiceover stops working after a few minutes 
on my Mac book pro?
It’s only started doing this since I updated to Mojave last night.  I have to 
toggle voiceover off and on, then close and open the screen before it will 
start talking again.  Just toggling voiceover isn’t enough.  I’m using Alex on 
a Mac book pro 15 inch 2018 with touch bar.  
Thanks for any thoughts. 
Kari. 

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Re: Upgrading iMac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Shawn,

Apple provides a list of unsupported Macs and the year varies according to the 
model. However, for those that did support High Sierra but not Mojave, there’s 
a hack available that works.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 28 Sep 2018, at 06:37, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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> I thought Mojave wasn't supported on 2011 Mac models. Is this not true after 
> all?
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> 
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>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:18 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Both Anne's and E.T.'s solutions work great, although, as you can tell, it's 
>> a combination of Terminal and the GUI.  I'm not aware of any straight 
>> Terminal solution.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 12:38, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Angus,
>> If you download Mojave and quit the installer, here is the terminal command 
>> to make a bootable installer key. You need a USB stick of at least 8 gb and 
>> you need to name it Untitled.
>> sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 
>> Mojave.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
>> --applicationpath //Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave.app —nointeraction
>> 
>> And for those who have a Mac that’s just too old to take Mojave but did take 
>> High Sierra, there's a hack available. Unfortunately, you need sighted help 
>> to use the hack. We’ve used it on a white MacBook from mid 2010 and it works 
>> beautifully.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 19:02, Angus MacKinnon >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can I use Terminal to upgrade my Os 10.11.6 2013 iMac to OS 10.14? if so, 
>>> how? Thank you.
>>> 
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Re: Upgrading iMac

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

I thought Mojave wasn't supported on 2011 Mac models. Is this not true after 
all?

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:18 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Both Anne's and E.T.'s solutions work great, although, as you can tell, it's 
> a combination of Terminal and the GUI.  I'm not aware of any straight 
> Terminal solution.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 27, 2018, at 12:38, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Angus,
> If you download Mojave and quit the installer, here is the terminal command 
> to make a bootable installer key. You need a USB stick of at least 8 gb and 
> you need to name it Untitled.
> sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 
> Mojave.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
> --applicationpath //Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave.app —nointeraction
> 
> And for those who have a Mac that’s just too old to take Mojave but did take 
> High Sierra, there's a hack available. Unfortunately, you need sighted help 
> to use the hack. We’ve used it on a white MacBook from mid 2010 and it works 
> beautifully.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 19:02, Angus MacKinnon > > wrote:
>> 
>> Can I use Terminal to upgrade my Os 10.11.6 2013 iMac to OS 10.14? if so, 
>> how? Thank you.
>> 
>> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
>> Hands Off Our Harness
>> http://www.hooh.ca 
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Mojavi & EPub books

['Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
Has anyone had any problems reading EPub books in Mojavi?
Thanks
Marshall

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How To Set a VoiceOver Activity for The Notification Center In Mac OS Mojave

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

As the following information works beautifully in Mac OS Mojave, I thought I
would post it, yet again, this year.

The purpose of the steps, below, is so that you can have a different TTS,
from that of your default VoiceOver TTS, read out all of the system
notifications, be they automatic or on-demand.

By on-demand, for example, I have setup the key combo of Control+Shift+N to
open the Notification center on my Mac.

Okay, read and enjoy.

Mark

How To Set a VoiceOver Activity for The Notification Center In Mac OS Mojave

NOTE:
This document assumes that you know how to create and configure VoiceOver
Activities.

Generally speaking, I prefer my default system VoiceOver voice to be Alex.
However, I want any and all of my system notifications to use my beloved
Samantha voice.  

The short answer:

To set a VoiceOver Activity for the Mac OSX Notification Center, when
selecting a finder app in the Activity configuration process, simply locate
the Notification Center app and select it.  The notification app is located
in the Core Services Folder of the Library folder which is located on the
hard drive's system folder.

The long answer is that when you Click on the Find App option during the
Activity creation process, you will be placed in the Applications folder.
The Notification Center app is located in a different place.  You must find
the correct folder and then simply select the Notifications.app file.

A.
First, open the computer's hard drive.
Second, open the System folder.
Third, open the Library folder.
Fourth, open the CoreServices folder.
Fifth, select the Notification.app file.

or 

B.
Use the Command + Shift + G, key-combo, and type in 
/System/Library/CoreServices/ 
to get to the correct folder, super fast.

Good Luck and Enjoy.

Mark


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Re: Any advice on how to remove the VMware?,,,

[Steve Matzura]

I don't, but these people do. https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1017838 
Google is your friend.



On 9/27/2018 4:26 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hi all:
will gona  remove the vmware from my mac, any advice? or just remove from the 
apps folder?
HOW i will get read of all it's componant etc?

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone



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RE: Focus Blue 5th on the Mac

[Pete De Vasto]

I got my Focus to show up in NVDA, here's how I did it:

If you do have the file from FS, once you extract it there should be a folder 
called

FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030

Go into that folder, and run a file called:

FSBrlDriverSetupPackage.exe

This runs a very familiar Windows setup package that installs the needed 
Braille driver. Once that's done you should be able to go into NVDA 
Preferences, the Braille section. When I did this on my system, the only choice 
I had was Automatic. If I clicked on the Change button, a list of displays came 
up, and Freedom Scientific was in that list and installed just fine. I am 
replying to your message using NVDA, and looking over what I am typing on my 
Focus 40 Blue display.

Hope this helps,
Pete

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From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 1:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus Blue 5th on the Mac

I have that driver. Even in safe mode, it will not install.

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On 9/27/2018 1:17 PM, Pete De Vasto wrote:
> I’ve been out of town for a couple of days, so just getting back to my 
> e-mails. If you take a look at the NVDA User’s Guide, section 14.2, I think, 
> talks about the Focus displays. They give you a link on the Freedom 
> Scientific web site you need to go to in order to get the driver. I had done 
> that on my older stand-alone PC, but have not tried that yet with my Fusion 
> system.
> 
> Hope maybe this helps,
> Pete
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pete,
>>No go. Fusion knows its there, its listed in Devices and Printers, as 
>> well as Device Manager. But its not listed in NVDA. Maybe that is the show 
>> stopper? When I connect to USB I hear the tone but not sure if its coming 
>> from the Mac or Windows. I think I should look at NVDA and see if that is 
>> it. I just updated to 2018.3.
>>
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>>
>> On 9/24/2018 10:32 AM, Pete De Vasto wrote:
>>> I think my Focus is older, but what I had to do was start the Windows 
>>> machine, then connect the device. So, if your Focus is working with 
>>> VoiceOver, disconnecting and reconnecting tells Fusion to look for the 
>>> device. Then, you have to go to Devices in your machine. You should see the 
>>> Freedom Scientific device listed as not connected, but you can then connect 
>>> it and you should find the driver after that. It’s a bit of a pain, but you 
>>> always have to disconnect and reconnect the Braille device every time you 
>>> start up the virtual Windows machine.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Pete De Vasto
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 7:14 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:

Has anyone been successful in updating this display in a Windows 7 VM 
 on the Mac? I need to install a driver which is not working. A USB 
 connection is required and VMware Fusion sees the connected display but 
 Windows does not due to lack of driver.

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Re: Odd keyboard issue in Vmware after upgrading to Mjavi.

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

So glad to have helped.  We are really at a disadvantage when it comes to these 
popup windows.  They don’t always get announced.  I had such a fright myself.

Take good care.

Andrew
> On Sep 27, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> HI!
> You saved my day!
> Thanks.
> /A
> 
>> 27 sep. 2018 kl. 20:04 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here’s what happened to me and my keyboard in Windows running in VMWare 
>> Fusion following upgrading to Mojave.  
>> When I started Windows 10 in VMWare fusion, I realised with alarm that I 
>> could no longer use my keyboard.  It was unresponsive.  I plugged in an 
>> external keyboard and again, the keyboard didn’t seem to work.
>> Now the reason for it was that in Mojave when you launch an application like 
>> VMware fusion, Mojave needs you to approve this app, i.e. give it permission 
>> to control your mac.  You have to go to system preferences, security and 
>> privacy tab.  There you will find a table listing applications allowed to 
>> control your computer.  You must check the checkbox to enable fusion.  This 
>> will make it possible for you to use your keyboard again.  Remember, you may 
>> have to enable making changes in this area by typing in your user password.  
>> There’s a button at the right end of the dialogue box which you need to 
>> press first and type in your user password.
>> 
>> Hope this will help.  I confess I freaked out when I couldn’t use my 
>> keyboard.  It was lucky that I had invoked windows chooser menu in 
>> desperation which revealed an alert window asking me whether I want to grant 
>> VMWare fusion control.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 26 Sep 2018, at 16:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Since upgrading to Mojavi i can no longer use windows or linux in vmware.
>>> BOth my external mac keyboard is locked up and the one keyboard on the 
>>> laptop.
>>> I don’t know what to do about it exept upgrading to vmware 11 that seems to 
>>> have been rleased.
>>> Sadly i don’t have the money for that right now but what can i do.
>>> Very odd behaviour.
>>> /A
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Re: Odd keyboard issue in Vmware after upgrading to Mjavi.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Don’t know what vmware fusion 11 might cost.
The linux distro i am running is Vinux 5.1.
You can use the orca screen reader which on Vinux will come up automatically as 
this distro is based on ubuntu but specialized for blind users.
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> 27 sep. 2018 kl. 20:26 skrev Maurice Mines :
> 
> A small question, are you using  VMware version 10, or version 11?
> 
> I don’t know if version 11 will help your situation, but it’s worth 
> investigating if it will help? PS, I am looking for a Linux distribution that 
> will actually run under VMware, I’m taking an extremely non-scientific survey 
> what distribution are you running? And what kind of screen reading output are 
> you using? In other words can a totally blind person do this? Using some kind 
> of software speech, and braille TTY if possible. Any thoughts?
> 
> Sincerely, Maurice  Mines.
> 
> On 26 Sep 2018, at 8:09, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> Since upgrading to Mojavi i can no longer use windows or linux in vmware.
>> BOth my external mac keyboard is locked up and the one keyboard on the 
>> laptop.
>> I don’t know what to do about it exept upgrading to vmware 11 that seems to 
>> have been rleased.
>> Sadly i don’t have the money for that right now but what can i do.
>> Very odd behaviour.
>> /A
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Re: Odd keyboard issue in Vmware after upgrading to Mjavi.

[Anders Holmberg]

HI!
You saved my day!
Thanks.
/A

> 27 sep. 2018 kl. 20:04 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here’s what happened to me and my keyboard in Windows running in VMWare 
> Fusion following upgrading to Mojave.  
> When I started Windows 10 in VMWare fusion, I realised with alarm that I 
> could no longer use my keyboard.  It was unresponsive.  I plugged in an 
> external keyboard and again, the keyboard didn’t seem to work.
> Now the reason for it was that in Mojave when you launch an application like 
> VMware fusion, Mojave needs you to approve this app, i.e. give it permission 
> to control your mac.  You have to go to system preferences, security and 
> privacy tab.  There you will find a table listing applications allowed to 
> control your computer.  You must check the checkbox to enable fusion.  This 
> will make it possible for you to use your keyboard again.  Remember, you may 
> have to enable making changes in this area by typing in your user password.  
> There’s a button at the right end of the dialogue box which you need to press 
> first and type in your user password.
> 
> Hope this will help.  I confess I freaked out when I couldn’t use my 
> keyboard.  It was lucky that I had invoked windows chooser menu in 
> desperation which revealed an alert window asking me whether I want to grant 
> VMWare fusion control.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 26 Sep 2018, at 16:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Since upgrading to Mojavi i can no longer use windows or linux in vmware.
>> BOth my external mac keyboard is locked up and the one keyboard on the 
>> laptop.
>> I don’t know what to do about it exept upgrading to vmware 11 that seems to 
>> have been rleased.
>> Sadly i don’t have the money for that right now but what can i do.
>> Very odd behaviour.
>> /A
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Re: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Can you describe it a little bit?
Is it bigger, thicker or smaller?
I am very intrested but don’t have the money right now.
I am getting tired of the android platform and the way nothing seems to work in 
regards to watches so i think i give the apple watch a go.
I have the first generation but haven’t used it for 2 years so i guess its dead.
/A

> 27 sep. 2018 kl. 05:04 skrev lenron brown :
> 
> Donna it is quite an awesome watch, and for you I am sure it's going
> to be a major upgrade from the series one. They talked about the
> different bands in the article, to be honest if I can find a few of
> the after market bands for the cheap that still look nice I might just
> grab a few of those.
> 
> On 9/26/18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Thanks, Mark, for taking the time to sort this article out and post it.  I
>> just got the notice from BestBuy that my watch is in, so I'll be picking it
>> up in about an hour.  WOOHOO!!
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Because of all of the images and embedded tables, this was a particularly
>>> challenging article to format for this post.  Consequently, I had to
>>> remove
>>> the specs comparison table and additional reading references.  In order
>>> to
>>> see these and other external items, use the link located at the end of
>>> the
>>> article.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars
>>> Technica
>>> 
>>> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience
>>> A $399 starting price is a lot to ask, but Apple added a lot to this
>>> Watch.
>>> by Valentina Palladino, Sep 26, 2018 5:00am PDT
>>> 
>>> The fourth iteration of the Apple Watch still looks like a tiny iPhone on
>>> your wrist, but for many, it was the most exciting device announced at
>>> Apple's event earlier this month. A larger screen, faster performance
>>> with
>>> improved sensors, fall detection, and ECG readings are just a few of the
>>> features that inspired quick interest in the Apple Watch Series 4. The
>>> steps
>>> forward in health monitoring alone point to a new era for Apple's
>>> wearable,
>>> and users who could benefit most from them have a compelling reason to
>>> shell
>>> out $399 or more for the Series 4.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, the Series 4 is an amalgamation of small improvements that make
>>> a
>>> big difference in the Apple Watch experience. These improvements will
>>> attract new users to the Watch who have been waiting for a device that's
>>> up
>>> to their personal standards, and they will make existing Watch wearers
>>> question their happiness with the smartwatch currently on their wrists.
>>> But
>>> while the Series 4 represents the first major redesign of the Apple Watch
>>> since its birth, that alone doesn't make it an automatic upgrade for all
>>> Apple Watch users.
>>> 
>>> The hardware
>>> Models and pricing
>>> 
>>> The Apple Watch Series 4 comes in two sizes—40mm and 44mm—and as either a
>>> GPS-only device or a GPS-and-cellular device. The 40mm, GPS-only Series 4
>>> Watch with an aluminum case starts at $399, and the GPS-and-cellular
>>> Watch
>>> of the same size starts at $499. The 44mm, GPS-only model starts at $429,
>>> and adding cellular ups the starting price to $529. Stainless steel cases
>>> are only available with GPS and cellular capabilities: a 40mm Watch costs
>>> $699 while a 44mm Watch costs $749.
>>> 
>>> All models come standard with either a sport band or a sport loop band.
>>> The
>>> special edition Nike+ Watches have exclusive Nike sport bands, but the
>>> bands
>>> don't affect the prices of those models. A few GPS-and-cellular,
>>> stainless-steel Watches come with the premium Milanese loop bands, and
>>> they
>>> cost $799 and $849 for the 40mm and 44mm sizes, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Those who have bands from old Apple Watches are in luck—all old bands
>>> will
>>> fit on the new sizes. Prices for additional bands haven't changed: a
>>> sport
>>> band costs $49, while a Milanese loop (as well as special leather bands)
>>> costs $149.
>>> 
>>> The Series 4 comes in an Hermés collaboration edition just like previous
>>> Apple Watches. These luxury devices start at $1,249 for a 44mm stainless
>>> steel model with a single leather band.
>>> 
>>> Let's talk about that new screen: first, it's the main reason the Series
>>> 4
>>> comes in new case sizes. The amount of screen area is larger on this new
>>> Watch, and it will tempt many to eschew their Series 3 and Series 2
>>> Watches
>>> entirely. After wearing a Series 3 for a year, the Series 4's screen is a
>>> welcome change I didn't know I wanted—complications are bigger and easier
>>> to
>>> tap, photos have more detail, and graphics are bold and take on new life
>>> thanks to the extra space in which they can live. It's an in-your-face
>>> change, even if the information on the Apple Watch's screen hasn't
>>> 

Re: Braille input on my mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi there.
Yes I am aware of that. 
However, my Alva 544 Braille display does not include a built in keyboard. 
So I was hoping to find a utility that will allow me to emulate a Braille 
keyboard using my standard mac keyboard. 

Thanks. 
Nektarios.


> On 27 Sep 2018, at 21:09, Maurice Mines  wrote:
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> Hello, you can use the keyboard that is part of any 32 or 40 cell braille 
> display.
> I am using my Keyboard  that  is part of the unit, !write in
> 
> I just so happen to have a brilliant 40 that I use with my computer. So when 
> I need to use a braille keyboard, I just use the keyboard that is biltin  on 
> my brilliant.
> 
> I hope this helps you out?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
> On 27 Sep 2018, at 6:18, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys.
>> I am looking for a way to input braille in to my mac. I am looking for a 
>> utility that will allow me to input Braille using my standard keyboard, for 
>> example, for 1 2 3 f d s and 4 5 6 j k l etc.
>> I would also be interested in purchasing an external usb or blue tooth 
>> braille keyboard.
>> At this point, I am not looking for any complicated translations and other 
>> features. I need to be able to enter in computer Braille.
>> Any help is very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Nektarios.
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Re: Before Installing, any Conflicts Between Pages and mac 10.14?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much for that, just need to be sure that there are no broken 
accessibility issues or something.
Thanks.

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> On Sep 27, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Why would there be conflicts both systems are made by Apple, and there has 
> been a six month Beta program where a new version of Pages was released a few 
> days before the release of 10.14. But then unless there is a feature in the 
> new OS that would help you, I would encourage you to stay with your current 
> setup. It doesn’t make sense to play around with updating Operating Systems 
> when you need your system for critical work. At least the new OS does not 
> have a completely new disk format structure like High Sierra, but I have 
> heard that automation tools have more difficulty using Apple Events to 
> control other programs. Apparently if you use any of these tools there a are 
> a lot of confirmation screens to wade through. 
> 
> Personally, unless my office requests I verify operation of our next version 
> of our Applications with the new OS, I probably won’t upgrade until November 
> or December.
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for Posting again, but need your advice before Upgrading 
>> Thanks in advance 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> Will install Mac 10.14 on My macbook pro. but need to be sure that  there 
>>> are no Accessibility issues with pages, my main app on my macbook.
>>> 
>>> Any beta testers or users can confirm Please?
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Re: Focus Blue 5th on the Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I have that driver. Even in safe mode, it will not install.

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On 9/27/2018 1:17 PM, Pete De Vasto wrote:

I’ve been out of town for a couple of days, so just getting back to my e-mails. 
If you take a look at the NVDA User’s Guide, section 14.2, I think, talks about 
the Focus displays. They give you a link on the Freedom Scientific web site you 
need to go to in order to get the driver. I had done that on my older 
stand-alone PC, but have not tried that yet with my Fusion system.

Hope maybe this helps,
Pete


On Sep 24, 2018, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi Pete,
   No go. Fusion knows its there, its listed in Devices and Printers, as well 
as Device Manager. But its not listed in NVDA. Maybe that is the show stopper? 
When I connect to USB I hear the tone but not sure if its coming from the Mac 
or Windows. I think I should look at NVDA and see if that is it. I just updated 
to 2018.3.

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I think my Focus is older, but what I had to do was start the Windows machine, 
then connect the device. So, if your Focus is working with VoiceOver, 
disconnecting and reconnecting tells Fusion to look for the device. Then, you 
have to go to Devices in your machine. You should see the Freedom Scientific 
device listed as not connected, but you can then connect it and you should find 
the driver after that. It’s a bit of a pain, but you always have to disconnect 
and reconnect the Braille device every time you start up the virtual Windows 
machine.
Hope this helps,
Pete De Vasto

On Sep 23, 2018, at 7:14 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Has anyone been successful in updating this display in a Windows 7 VM on the 
Mac? I need to install a driver which is not working. A USB connection is 
required and VMware Fusion sees the connected display but Windows does not due 
to lack of driver.

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Any advice on how to remove the VMware?,,,

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:
will gona  remove the vmware from my mac, any advice? or just remove from the 
apps folder?
HOW i will get read of all it's componant etc?

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Re: Focus Blue 5th on the Mac

[Pete De Vasto]

I’ve been out of town for a couple of days, so just getting back to my e-mails. 
If you take a look at the NVDA User’s Guide, section 14.2, I think, talks about 
the Focus displays. They give you a link on the Freedom Scientific web site you 
need to go to in order to get the driver. I had done that on my older 
stand-alone PC, but have not tried that yet with my Fusion system. 

Hope maybe this helps,
Pete

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>   No go. Fusion knows its there, its listed in Devices and Printers, as well 
> as Device Manager. But its not listed in NVDA. Maybe that is the show 
> stopper? When I connect to USB I hear the tone but not sure if its coming 
> from the Mac or Windows. I think I should look at NVDA and see if that is it. 
> I just updated to 2018.3.
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> On 9/24/2018 10:32 AM, Pete De Vasto wrote:
>> I think my Focus is older, but what I had to do was start the Windows 
>> machine, then connect the device. So, if your Focus is working with 
>> VoiceOver, disconnecting and reconnecting tells Fusion to look for the 
>> device. Then, you have to go to Devices in your machine. You should see the 
>> Freedom Scientific device listed as not connected, but you can then connect 
>> it and you should find the driver after that. It’s a bit of a pain, but you 
>> always have to disconnect and reconnect the Braille device every time you 
>> start up the virtual Windows machine.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Pete De Vasto
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 7:14 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>>   Has anyone been successful in updating this display in a Windows 7 VM on 
>>> the Mac? I need to install a driver which is not working. A USB connection 
>>> is required and VMware Fusion sees the connected display but Windows does 
>>> not due to lack of driver.
>>> 
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Re: Upgrading iMac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Both Anne's and E.T.'s solutions work great, although, as you can tell, it's a 
combination of Terminal and the GUI.  I'm not aware of any straight Terminal 
solution.

Later...

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 27, 2018, at 12:38, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Angus,
If you download Mojave and quit the installer, here is the terminal command to 
make a bootable installer key. You need a USB stick of at least 8 gb and you 
need to name it Untitled.
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 
Mojave.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath //Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave.app —nointeraction

And for those who have a Mac that’s just too old to take Mojave but did take 
High Sierra, there's a hack available. Unfortunately, you need sighted help to 
use the hack. We’ve used it on a white MacBook from mid 2010 and it works 
beautifully.
Cheers,

Anne



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Re: Upgrading iMac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Angus,
If you download Mojave and quit the installer, here is the terminal command to 
make a bootable installer key. You need a USB stick of at least 8 gb and you 
need to name it Untitled.
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ 
Mojave.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath //Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave.app —nointeraction

And for those who have a Mac that’s just too old to take Mojave but did take 
High Sierra, there's a hack available. Unfortunately, you need sighted help to 
use the hack. We’ve used it on a white MacBook from mid 2010 and it works 
beautifully.
Cheers,

Anne

 

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Re: Odd keyboard issue in Vmware after upgrading to Mjavi.

[Maurice Mines]

A small question, are you using  VMware version 10, or version 11?

I don’t know if version 11 will help your situation, but it’s worth 
investigating if it will help? PS, I am looking for a Linux distribution 
that will actually run under VMware, I’m taking an extremely 
non-scientific survey what distribution are you running? And what kind 
of screen reading output are you using? In other words can a totally 
blind person do this? Using some kind of software speech, and braille 
TTY if possible. Any thoughts?


Sincerely, Maurice  Mines.

On 26 Sep 2018, at 8:09, Anders Holmberg wrote:


Hi!
Since upgrading to Mojavi i can no longer use windows or linux in 
vmware.
BOth my external mac keyboard is locked up and the one keyboard on the 
laptop.
I don’t know what to do about it exept upgrading to vmware 11 that 
seems to have been rleased.

Sadly i don’t have the money for that right now but what can i do.
Very odd behaviour.
/A

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Re: Braille input on my mac.

[Maurice Mines]

Hello, you can use the keyboard that is part of any 32 or 40 cell 
braille display.

I am using my Keyboard  that  is part of the unit, !write in

I just so happen to have a brilliant 40 that I use with my computer. So 
when I need to use a braille keyboard, I just use the keyboard that is 
biltin  on my brilliant.


I hope this helps you out?

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

On 27 Sep 2018, at 6:18, Nektarios Mallas wrote:


Hi guys.
I am looking for a way to input braille in to my mac. I am looking for 
a utility that will allow me to input Braille using my standard 
keyboard, for example, for 1 2 3 f d s and 4 5 6 j k l etc.
I would also be interested in purchasing an external usb or blue tooth 
braille keyboard.
At this point, I am not looking for any complicated translations and 
other features. I need to be able to enter in computer Braille.

Any help is very much appreciated.

Nektarios.

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Re: Odd keyboard issue in Vmware after upgrading to Mjavi.

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Here’s what happened to me and my keyboard in Windows running in VMWare Fusion 
following upgrading to Mojave.  
When I started Windows 10 in VMWare fusion, I realised with alarm that I could 
no longer use my keyboard.  It was unresponsive.  I plugged in an external 
keyboard and again, the keyboard didn’t seem to work.
Now the reason for it was that in Mojave when you launch an application like 
VMware fusion, Mojave needs you to approve this app, i.e. give it permission to 
control your mac.  You have to go to system preferences, security and privacy 
tab.  There you will find a table listing applications allowed to control your 
computer.  You must check the checkbox to enable fusion.  This will make it 
possible for you to use your keyboard again.  Remember, you may have to enable 
making changes in this area by typing in your user password.  There’s a button 
at the right end of the dialogue box which you need to press first and type in 
your user password.

Hope this will help.  I confess I freaked out when I couldn’t use my keyboard.  
It was lucky that I had invoked windows chooser menu in desperation which 
revealed an alert window asking me whether I want to grant VMWare fusion 
control.

Andrew
> On 26 Sep 2018, at 16:09, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Since upgrading to Mojavi i can no longer use windows or linux in vmware.
> BOth my external mac keyboard is locked up and the one keyboard on the laptop.
> I don’t know what to do about it exept upgrading to vmware 11 that seems to 
> have been rleased.
> Sadly i don’t have the money for that right now but what can i do.
> Very odd behaviour.
> /A
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Re: Need windows sometimes but still has bad relationship with VMware,

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. Bootcamp should already be on your mac in the utilities folder.
>From the finder, just do command shift U and that should open it.

Keep in mind that once you set your partition sizes, you can't change
them once windows is installed.






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On 9/27/18, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> Aha great
> Thanks
> but can we install the Bootcam alone or do i have to invite sited
> assistance?
>
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>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi. My bootcamp installs have never effected my mac OS partition. I
>> don't know who told you about that but I've never experienced any
>> issues.
>>
>> The bootcamp and windows ten installs are pretty painless although I
>> did have to use ira to start the windows installation. after that
>> though, you can use a USB headset and run narrator to complete the
>> setup process.
>>
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>> On 9/27/18, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>>> HI.
>>>
>>> what’s involved in setting up boot camp? Can we do it as vips
>>> independently?
>>>
>>> Maria
>>>
>>>
 On 26 Sep 2018, at 6:56 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

 I'm using bootcamp on a mac mini at work everyday and it's stable as a
 straight windows machine.

 Can't see problems within it.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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 Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 12:59 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Need windows sometimes but still has bad relationship with
 VMware,

 Hi Cameron:
 thanks so much, some people told me not to install bootcamb because it
 has
 some bad effects if my windows damaged or something?
 your experience?


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> On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Cameron Strife
> 
> wrote:
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> Hi. I run windows ten 64 bit via bootcamp and have had very little
> trouble. Why not give that a shot? Also, remember that when you're
> running a virtual machine, it is splitting resources with both
> operating systems. If you boot into one OS at a time, you don't have
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>> On 9/25/18, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> Hi all:
>>
>> , I’m running High sierra, and planning to upgrade to 10.14 which i
>> Forget it’s name right now :D but sometimes i need to use windows
>> badly for some apps that i do not have alternatives here.
>> Til now Me and the VMware are not Friends, do not know why, but
>> sometimes jaws is not working, sometimes Keyboard is losing focus,
>> Running here Vmware 8.8 with Windows 7, So,  is there anybody like me
>> hates VMware, and, is there something that i can do to improve my Vm
>> ware relation ship?
>> tia
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Re: Upgrading iMac

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   If doing a clean install, I use Install Disk Creator from 
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creation of a bootable USB stick. Mine is ready to go.


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On 9/27/2018 10:16 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Probably, but it wouldn't be easy.  It's easy to do software updates 
through the Terminal, but App Store purchases and such are not 
supported, at least the last time I tried.  It's beyond my expertise in 
Terminal.


Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 27, 2018, at 11:02, Angus MacKinnon > wrote:


Can I use Terminal to upgrade my Os 10.11.6 2013 iMac to OS 10.14? if 
so, how? Thank you.


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Re: Upgrading iMac

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Hi,

Probably, but it wouldn't be easy.  It's easy to do software updates through 
the Terminal, but App Store purchases and such are not supported, at least the 
last time I tried.  It's beyond my expertise in Terminal.

Later...

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On Sep 27, 2018, at 11:02, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

Can I use Terminal to upgrade my Os 10.11.6 2013 iMac to OS 10.14? if so, how? 
Thank you.

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Upgrading iMac

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Can I use Terminal to upgrade my Os 10.11.6 2013 iMac to OS 10.14? if so, how? 
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Re: handbrake Question

[Barry Hadder]

I made a slight mistake on the path to the MakeMKV library.  I left off the 
.app extension.  It should be /Applications/MakeMKV.app/…
It’s nothing that good old tab completion wouldn’t fix though.


> On Sep 27, 2018, at 7:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Wow!  this is quite a process.  I don't know whether I'll try it or not, but 
> I do appreciate the info.  Thank you, Barry.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Barry Hadder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes you can, but there are a few steps to set everything up.
>> First, download an application called makemkv.  It cost $50, but is free 
>> while in beta.  The GUI is not accessible, but can easily be used from the 
>> command line.  Whether or not you actually use it however, you need it in 
>> order to access it’s library file.
>> After it is installed, you need to create two symbolic links in 
>> /usr/local/lib.  That is a path you can only access in the terminal.  If you 
>> don’t feel comfortable with doing this, you might want to get help from 
>> someone.  Type the following in terminal:
>> ln -s /Applications/MakeMKV/Contents/lib/libmmbd.dylib 
>> /usr/local/lib/libaacs.dylib
>> ln -s /Applications/MakeMKV/Contents/lib/libmmbd.dylib 
>> /usr/local/lib/libbdplus.dylib
>> 
>> MakeMKV also requires a key for continuous use.  You get the key from: 
>> https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1053 
>> .
>> He posts a new key every few months.  You can get someone sited to enter the 
>> key, but you can also edit the ~/Library/MakeMKV/settings.conf file and type 
>> app_Key = “”.
>> 
>> Now you can play blue rays with vlc or any other player that knows how to 
>> read them, or rip with handbreak to an ATV compatible format.
>> For DVD’s you need the libdvdcss package.  Sense you have MakeMKV however, 
>> you can just create another symbolic link as above but with the name 
>> libdvdcss.2.dylib.
>> 
>> 
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>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Can handbrake be used to import commercial DVDs into iTunes?  My husband 
>>> and I own a few TV series on blue ray.  I'd be interested in storing them 
>>> digitally, and watching them via Apple TV rather than fussing with the DVD. 
>>>  One series in particular is not available on iTunes, so it seems like the 
>>> only way to accomplish this would be to import our DVDs, hopefully into 
>>> iTunes.  We legitimately purchased the series in question, so I'm not 
>>> trying to violate copyright or anything.  Can Handbrake be used for this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: Before Installing, any Conflicts Between Pages and mac 10.14?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Why would there be conflicts both systems are made by Apple, and there has been 
a six month Beta program where a new version of Pages was released a few days 
before the release of 10.14. But then unless there is a feature in the new OS 
that would help you, I would encourage you to stay with your current setup. It 
doesn’t make sense to play around with updating Operating Systems when you need 
your system for critical work. At least the new OS does not have a completely 
new disk format structure like High Sierra, but I have heard that automation 
tools have more difficulty using Apple Events to control other programs. 
Apparently if you use any of these tools there a are a lot of confirmation 
screens to wade through. 

Personally, unless my office requests I verify operation of our next version of 
our Applications with the new OS, I probably won’t upgrade until November or 
December.

Jonathan 

> On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Sorry for Posting again, but need your advice before Upgrading 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
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>> On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Ramy Moustafa  
>> wrote:
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>> Hi all:
>> 
>> Will install Mac 10.14 on My macbook pro. but need to be sure that  there 
>> are no Accessibility issues with pages, my main app on my macbook.
>> 
>> Any beta testers or users can confirm Please?
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Re: Braille input on my mac.

[Jonathan Cohn]

I am not sure your exact need, but the “brf” file format represents all 64  
possible braille combinations as regular characters and punctuation. for 
example the  equals sign in Nemeth braille (dots 46 followed by dots 13  is 
represented in BRF as “.k” I have a web site that we were doing testing with 
that allows you to use the sdf and jkl characters to input Braille which is 
then represented on screen with the Unicode Braille glyphs.  I believe somebody 
also wrote a regular Macintosh program that looks for multiple keydowns and 
waits until all keys are released before interpreting as a Braille input.

Anybody know if Braille Blaster has this functionality? That would be pretty 
neat!

Jonathan

   
> On Sep 27, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
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> Hi guys.
> I am looking for a way to input braille in to my mac. I am looking for a 
> utility that will allow me to input Braille using my standard keyboard, for 
> example, for 1 2 3 f d s and 4 5 6 j k l etc. 
> I would also be interested in purchasing an external usb or blue tooth 
> braille keyboard. 
> At this point, I am not looking for any complicated translations and other 
> features. I need to be able to enter in computer Braille. 
> Any help is very much appreciated. 
> 
> Nektarios.
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Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Thanks for bringing that up Jason.  I'm not wishing to be a defender, but we do 
need to look at the big picture.  Whether Mac or iOS, Apple introduced and 
continues to maintain this software as a no-cost item.  No, I'm not sure how 
much it costs on the Balance Sheet, but it has to affect the overall expenses 
category for sure.  MacOS, iOS, stock apps, numerous other apps, Apple School 
Manager and other education services, as well as accessibility features are 
continually developed and updated at no visible charge to the end user.  Of 
course, these are all encompassed in the Apple experience, so they're not 
really free, but we don't need to buy most of this separately.  One could argue 
that why should I pay for things in this manner when I don't use them.  My 
answer is two fold.  First, by spreading this across the cost of all hardware 
and other services, each individual actually pays less for the software.  
Second, some of us could say that I don't need Pages, or iMovie, or GarageBand, 
so why should I pay for them, but there's a huge population that could say why 
do I need to have accessibility features.  If the cost of accessibility was 
just passed on to us as accessibility users, it would be much more expensive to 
purchase and likely less of a priority to Apple due to the smaller population 
base.  In addition, it is really excellent that a six year old device such as 
the 5S can still run the latest iOS, so upgrading is not a necessity, mostly a 
desire.

All this doesn't mean that I like having to spend over a grand on a phone, 
along with the knowledge that their profits are through the roof, but it is a 
capitalistic economy that we live in at the moment and there's only so much 
that you can go against your shareholder's wishes.

JMO.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 27, 2018, at 06:54, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

My current phone is an iPhone 5S purchased in 2014. I think the upgrade to the 
iPhone XS (expected to arrive today, incidentally) is worth it on several 
grounds, including the better LTE band coverage that it offers, the dual SIM 
capability, superior performance, and other details that I've weighed in making 
the decision.

Generally, I'm of the view that one should buy high-quality hardware and make 
it last until there's a good case for upgrading. If I had a more recent device, 
I wouldn't even consider the purchase.

Am I correct in remembering that Apple makes more revenue from the associated 
services (app purchases, books, music, video, and so forth) than from hardware 
sales?

Based on what I've read, it's no secret that they operate on high margins. Of 
course, one is also paying for the software development costs, the technical 
research in both hardware and software, and their other operational costs - I 
don't know what that amounts to per unit. However, it seems reasonable to 
conclude that they make a substantial surplus. The accessibility features are 
undeniably good, apparently now including additional braille display navigation 
commands as of iOS 12 that I haven't explored yet.

On 9/27/18, 07:28, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
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   I have to believe that that time will come.  Sure, there are a bunch of 
silicon valley geeks with money to burn, but that isn't the reality for most of 
us.  And frankly, even if I had that kind of money, I would object to spending 
a thousand dollars a year for a phone, that's ridiculous!  I used to upgrade 
every year.  But when you spend $1000 for a phone, you want to at least get a 
couple of years out of it.  I'm sitting out the phone upgrade this year, and 
maybe next year too.  I doubt I'm the only iPhone X owner who's doing that.  So 
sure, they get more money per phone, but it kind of balances out if people who 
used to upgrade yearly suddenly start upgrading every other year, or in my 
case, maybe every third year.  And yeah, I'm super excited about the new watch, 
but I'll do the same thing I did with my series 1, use it until I can't any 
more.
   Cheers,
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Re: Need windows sometimes but still has bad relationship with VMware,

[Ramy Moustafa]

Aha great
Thanks
but can we install the Bootcam alone or do i have to invite sited assistance?


> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi. My bootcamp installs have never effected my mac OS partition. I
> don't know who told you about that but I've never experienced any
> issues.
> 
> The bootcamp and windows ten installs are pretty painless although I
> did have to use ira to start the windows installation. after that
> though, you can use a USB headset and run narrator to complete the
> setup process.
> 
> Cameron.
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> On 9/27/18, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>> HI.
>> 
>> what’s involved in setting up boot camp? Can we do it as vips
>> independently?
>> 
>> Maria
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Sep 2018, at 6:56 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm using bootcamp on a mac mini at work everyday and it's stable as a
>>> straight windows machine.
>>> 
>>> Can't see problems within it.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>>> Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 12:59 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Need windows sometimes but still has bad relationship with
>>> VMware,
>>> 
>>> Hi Cameron:
>>> thanks so much, some people told me not to install bootcamb because it has
>>> some bad effects if my windows damaged or something?
>>> your experience?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Cameron Strife 
 wrote:
 
 Hi. I run windows ten 64 bit via bootcamp and have had very little
 trouble. Why not give that a shot? Also, remember that when you're
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> On 9/25/18, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> Hi all:
> 
> , I’m running High sierra, and planning to upgrade to 10.14 which i
> Forget it’s name right now :D but sometimes i need to use windows
> badly for some apps that i do not have alternatives here.
> Til now Me and the VMware are not Friends, do not know why, but
> sometimes jaws is not working, sometimes Keyboard is losing focus,
> Running here Vmware 8.8 with Windows 7, So,  is there anybody like me
> hates VMware, and, is there something that i can do to improve my Vm
> ware relation ship?
> tia
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Braille input on my mac.

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hi guys.
I am looking for a way to input braille in to my mac. I am looking for a 
utility that will allow me to input Braille using my standard keyboard, for 
example, for 1 2 3 f d s and 4 5 6 j k l etc. 
I would also be interested in purchasing an external usb or blue tooth braille 
keyboard. 
At this point, I am not looking for any complicated translations and other 
features. I need to be able to enter in computer Braille. 
Any help is very much appreciated. 

Nektarios.

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Re: Before Installing, any Conflicts Between Pages and mac 10.14?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Sorry for Posting again, but need your advice before Upgrading 
Thanks in advance 


> On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Hi all:
> 
> Will install Mac 10.14 on My macbook pro. but need to be sure that  there are 
> no Accessibility issues with pages, my main app on my macbook.
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Re: Reading PDF books on mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi will try to do that and see
thanks so much 


> On Sep 25, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Doesn’t adobe acrobat work on the mac?
> I have it installed but have never had the time to try it.
> /A
> 
>> 22 sep. 2018 kl. 22:09 skrev Karen Lewellen :
>> 
>> Hi ramy,
>> Whenever anyone asks about pdf books I remind the list about robobraille.
>> www.robobraille.org
>> The service will convert pdf files  into other formats, html, rtf, text, and 
>> many others.
>> One e-mails the file to the address convert at robobraille dot org
>> putting our desired format as the subject line, and the converted file is 
>> returned to you.
>> The service can convert epub files and create mobi files as well.
>> Hope this is helpful,
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> As subject says, I need to read PDF books on mac, do not know why, but am 
>>> not happy with The Preview App, so Need a strong app like Voicedream on 
>>> Iphone,
>>> I love this app more than anything, but it’s not an easy thing to read on 
>>> it and make some notes etc on my Laptop for my research.
>>> so your suggestions are more than Welcome
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Re: Need windows sometimes but still has bad relationship with VMware,

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. My bootcamp installs have never effected my mac OS partition. I
don't know who told you about that but I've never experienced any
issues.

The bootcamp and windows ten installs are pretty painless although I
did have to use ira to start the windows installation. after that
though, you can use a USB headset and run narrator to complete the
setup process.

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On 9/27/18, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> HI.
>
> what’s involved in setting up boot camp? Can we do it as vips
> independently?
>
> Maria
>
>
>> On 26 Sep 2018, at 6:56 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>
>> I'm using bootcamp on a mac mini at work everyday and it's stable as a
>> straight windows machine.
>>
>> Can't see problems within it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 12:59 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Need windows sometimes but still has bad relationship with
>> VMware,
>>
>> Hi Cameron:
>> thanks so much, some people told me not to install bootcamb because it has
>> some bad effects if my windows damaged or something?
>> your experience?
>>
>>
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi. I run windows ten 64 bit via bootcamp and have had very little
>>> trouble. Why not give that a shot? Also, remember that when you're
>>> running a virtual machine, it is splitting resources with both
>>> operating systems. If you boot into one OS at a time, you don't have
>>> this issue.
>>>
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 Hi all:

 , I’m running High sierra, and planning to upgrade to 10.14 which i
 Forget it’s name right now :D but sometimes i need to use windows
 badly for some apps that i do not have alternatives here.
 Til now Me and the VMware are not Friends, do not know why, but
 sometimes jaws is not working, sometimes Keyboard is losing focus,
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 hates VMware, and, is there something that i can do to improve my Vm
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Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

My current phone is an iPhone 5S purchased in 2014. I think the upgrade to the 
iPhone XS (expected to arrive today, incidentally) is worth it on several 
grounds, including the better LTE band coverage that it offers, the dual SIM 
capability, superior performance, and other details that I've weighed in making 
the decision.

Generally, I'm of the view that one should buy high-quality hardware and make 
it last until there's a good case for upgrading. If I had a more recent device, 
I wouldn't even consider the purchase.

Am I correct in remembering that Apple makes more revenue from the associated 
services (app purchases, books, music, video, and so forth) than from hardware 
sales?

Based on what I've read, it's no secret that they operate on high margins. Of 
course, one is also paying for the software development costs, the technical 
research in both hardware and software, and their other operational costs - I 
don't know what that amounts to per unit. However, it seems reasonable to 
conclude that they make a substantial surplus. The accessibility features are 
undeniably good, apparently now including additional braille display navigation 
commands as of iOS 12 that I haven't explored yet.

On 9/27/18, 07:28, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

I have to believe that that time will come.  Sure, there are a bunch of 
silicon valley geeks with money to burn, but that isn't the reality for most of 
us.  And frankly, even if I had that kind of money, I would object to spending 
a thousand dollars a year for a phone, that's ridiculous!  I used to upgrade 
every year.  But when you spend $1000 for a phone, you want to at least get a 
couple of years out of it.  I'm sitting out the phone upgrade this year, and 
maybe next year too.  I doubt I'm the only iPhone X owner who's doing that.  So 
sure, they get more money per phone, but it kind of balances out if people who 
used to upgrade yearly suddenly start upgrading every other year, or in my 
case, maybe every third year.  And yeah, I'm super excited about the new watch, 
but I'll do the same thing I did with my series 1, use it until I can't any 
more.
Cheers,
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Re: handbrake Question

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Wow!  this is quite a process.  I don't know whether I'll try it or not, but I 
do appreciate the info.  Thank you, Barry.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 26, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Yes you can, but there are a few steps to set everything up.
> First, download an application called makemkv.  It cost $50, but is free 
> while in beta.  The GUI is not accessible, but can easily be used from the 
> command line.  Whether or not you actually use it however, you need it in 
> order to access it’s library file.
> After it is installed, you need to create two symbolic links in 
> /usr/local/lib.  That is a path you can only access in the terminal.  If you 
> don’t feel comfortable with doing this, you might want to get help from 
> someone.  Type the following in terminal:
> ln -s /Applications/MakeMKV/Contents/lib/libmmbd.dylib 
> /usr/local/lib/libaacs.dylib
> ln -s /Applications/MakeMKV/Contents/lib/libmmbd.dylib 
> /usr/local/lib/libbdplus.dylib
> 
> MakeMKV also requires a key for continuous use.  You get the key from: 
> https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1053 
> .
> He posts a new key every few months.  You can get someone sited to enter the 
> key, but you can also edit the ~/Library/MakeMKV/settings.conf file and type 
> app_Key = “”.
> 
> Now you can play blue rays with vlc or any other player that knows how to 
> read them, or rip with handbreak to an ATV compatible format.
> For DVD’s you need the libdvdcss package.  Sense you have MakeMKV however, 
> you can just create another symbolic link as above but with the name 
> libdvdcss.2.dylib.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 7:22 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Can handbrake be used to import commercial DVDs into iTunes?  My husband and 
>> I own a few TV series on blue ray.  I'd be interested in storing them 
>> digitally, and watching them via Apple TV rather than fussing with the DVD.  
>> One series in particular is not available on iTunes, so it seems like the 
>> only way to accomplish this would be to import our DVDs, hopefully into 
>> iTunes.  We legitimately purchased the series in question, so I'm not trying 
>> to violate copyright or anything.  Can Handbrake be used for this?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: Please Join Me in Requesting that a Small but Significant Bug be Resolved in the Latest Release of the Starbucks App

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Mark,

I use this app all the time.  Will check this out this weekend.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:47 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan,
> 
> I did not mean to imply that one could not read the balance of one's card 
> from within the app.  What I meant to say is that when one touches the "Pay 
> With" button, the amount is not spoken.  
> 
> So the first step is to make certain that the Home Tab, located near the 
> lower left corner of the display is selected.  Then, touch the "Pay With" 
> button which is located just above the lower right corner of the display.  
> 
> I have rewards on my account, including a free reward.  
> 
> Earlier today, I spent some time with several friends all of whom use the 
> Starbucks app; so I tested this on 1 iPhone 7, 1 6 S, and 1 6, in addition to 
> my own 8 Plus and the results were consistent across all four devices.  By 
> the way, all of these devices use the Samantha Enhanced, TTS. 
> 
> When you get a chance, please do the following:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that the app is closed out of the app switcher.  
> 
> 2.
> Check for updates, just to be certain that you have the latest version.
> 
> 3.
> Now start the app and make certain that the Home tab, located near the lower 
> left corner of the display is selected.  
> 
> 4.
> Finally, using explore-by-touch, place VoiceOver focus on the "Pay With" 
> button, located just above the lower right corner of the display, and simply 
> touch it.  Do not single-finger double-tap it.  In all of my tests, VoiceOver 
> simply says, "Pay with current balance."  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 4:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Please Join Me in Requesting that a Small but Significant Bug be 
> Resolved in the Latest Release of the Starbucks App
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I updated the app today with it indicating that last update was yesterday. I 
> was able to read the amount on my Starbucks card with no difficulty. Though 
> it might be that I had a reward on the line above and so was seeing a 
> slightly different format.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:35 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I believe that the following bug report speaks for itself.  
>> 
>> You may use any or all of it in your feedback to Starbucks.  
>> 
>> Please join me in requesting that the bug be resolved, as soon as possible.
>> 
>> You may submit your feedback as a review in the App Store; or via the 
>> online feedback form at:
>> https://customerservice.starbucks.com/app/contact/ask_wifi_mobile_apps/.
>> or by sending a direct twitter message to @StarbucksHelp. 
>> or by calling:  800-782-7282.
>> 
>> As always, your support is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> [BEGIN BUG REPORT]: 
>> 
>> Subject:  Request That Small but Significant Bug be Resolved for the 
>> Visually Impaired
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> In the latest version of the iOS Starbucks app, released on Tuesday, 
>> September 25, 2018, VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading 
>> solution for the blind and low vision, no longer announces the current 
>> remaining balance on the "Pay With" button, located near the lower right 
>> corner of the
>> display.   
>> 
>> To reproduce this bug:
>> 
>> 1.
>> With VoiceOver enabled, open the Starbucks app.  
>> 
>> 2.
>> With one finger, touch the "Pay With" button, located near the lower 
>> right corner of the display.  VoiceOver says, "Pay with current 
>> balance."  Unlike in the previous version, the actual remaining 
>> balance is not spoken despite it being displayed for sighted users.
>> 
>> I respectfully request that this issue be resolved as soon as possible.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> [END BUG REPORT]
>> 
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Re: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey Lenron,

Yeah, so far I haven't had a ton of time to play with it.  Went to get it after 
work, and then hubby and I went out to dinner. so, by the time I got home and 
got it set up, I only had a little time to play.  But I'm impressed with what 
I've seen so far.  Siri actually works, and the watch doesn't shut off 
immediately when I tap to get the time--I know, I'm setting the bar so high, 
here.) lol  But seriously, the speed is impressive, and it does give you more 
information in some situations than my Series 1 did.  Definitely pleased with 
the upgrade. And the difference in size is barely noticeable.  I feel it a bit 
in the way it sits on my arm, but I'm sure that within a couple of days I won't 
even notice the difference.  Looking forward to having more time to play around 
with it this weekend.
Cheers,
Donna



> On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:04 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Donna it is quite an awesome watch, and for you I am sure it's going
> to be a major upgrade from the series one. They talked about the
> different bands in the article, to be honest if I can find a few of
> the after market bands for the cheap that still look nice I might just
> grab a few of those.
> 
> On 9/26/18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Thanks, Mark, for taking the time to sort this article out and post it.  I
>> just got the notice from BestBuy that my watch is in, so I'll be picking it
>> up in about an hour.  WOOHOO!!
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Because of all of the images and embedded tables, this was a particularly
>>> challenging article to format for this post.  Consequently, I had to
>>> remove
>>> the specs comparison table and additional reading references.  In order
>>> to
>>> see these and other external items, use the link located at the end of
>>> the
>>> article.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars
>>> Technica
>>> 
>>> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience
>>> A $399 starting price is a lot to ask, but Apple added a lot to this
>>> Watch.
>>> by Valentina Palladino, Sep 26, 2018 5:00am PDT
>>> 
>>> The fourth iteration of the Apple Watch still looks like a tiny iPhone on
>>> your wrist, but for many, it was the most exciting device announced at
>>> Apple's event earlier this month. A larger screen, faster performance
>>> with
>>> improved sensors, fall detection, and ECG readings are just a few of the
>>> features that inspired quick interest in the Apple Watch Series 4. The
>>> steps
>>> forward in health monitoring alone point to a new era for Apple's
>>> wearable,
>>> and users who could benefit most from them have a compelling reason to
>>> shell
>>> out $399 or more for the Series 4.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, the Series 4 is an amalgamation of small improvements that make
>>> a
>>> big difference in the Apple Watch experience. These improvements will
>>> attract new users to the Watch who have been waiting for a device that's
>>> up
>>> to their personal standards, and they will make existing Watch wearers
>>> question their happiness with the smartwatch currently on their wrists.
>>> But
>>> while the Series 4 represents the first major redesign of the Apple Watch
>>> since its birth, that alone doesn't make it an automatic upgrade for all
>>> Apple Watch users.
>>> 
>>> The hardware
>>> Models and pricing
>>> 
>>> The Apple Watch Series 4 comes in two sizes—40mm and 44mm—and as either a
>>> GPS-only device or a GPS-and-cellular device. The 40mm, GPS-only Series 4
>>> Watch with an aluminum case starts at $399, and the GPS-and-cellular
>>> Watch
>>> of the same size starts at $499. The 44mm, GPS-only model starts at $429,
>>> and adding cellular ups the starting price to $529. Stainless steel cases
>>> are only available with GPS and cellular capabilities: a 40mm Watch costs
>>> $699 while a 44mm Watch costs $749.
>>> 
>>> All models come standard with either a sport band or a sport loop band.
>>> The
>>> special edition Nike+ Watches have exclusive Nike sport bands, but the
>>> bands
>>> don't affect the prices of those models. A few GPS-and-cellular,
>>> stainless-steel Watches come with the premium Milanese loop bands, and
>>> they
>>> cost $799 and $849 for the 40mm and 44mm sizes, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Those who have bands from old Apple Watches are in luck—all old bands
>>> will
>>> fit on the new sizes. Prices for additional bands haven't changed: a
>>> sport
>>> band costs $49, while a Milanese loop (as well as special leather bands)
>>> costs $149.
>>> 
>>> The Series 4 comes in an Hermés collaboration edition just like previous
>>> Apple Watches. These luxury devices start at $1,249 for a 44mm stainless
>>> steel model with a single leather band.
>>> 
>>> Let's talk about that new screen: first, it's the main reason the Series
>>> 4
>>> comes in new case sizes. The amount of screen area is 

Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I have to believe that that time will come.  Sure, there are a bunch of silicon 
valley geeks with money to burn, but that isn't the reality for most of us.  
And frankly, even if I had that kind of money, I would object to spending a 
thousand dollars a year for a phone, that's ridiculous!  I used to upgrade 
every year.  But when you spend $1000 for a phone, you want to at least get a 
couple of years out of it.  I'm sitting out the phone upgrade this year, and 
maybe next year too.  I doubt I'm the only iPhone X owner who's doing that.  So 
sure, they get more money per phone, but it kind of balances out if people who 
used to upgrade yearly suddenly start upgrading every other year, or in my 
case, maybe every third year.  And yeah, I'm super excited about the new watch, 
but I'll do the same thing I did with my series 1, use it until I can't any 
more.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 27, 2018, at 5:31 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> At least you are not one of these people Simon defending the hell out
> of apple just because you use apple products. I use a couple myself
> don't mean I think they are the best at everything including pricing.
> In some ways they really rip you off and they know it. I mean the big
> shock to me was when those computer prices jumped a year or two ago as
> much as they did. With phones apple really don't care as much
> especially in places where they know most will go lease the latest
> device anyways. When they Realize enough is enough they will cut back.
> 
> On 9/27/18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> There are a number of things I could say here
>> 
>> And one of them is,
>> Bunch of money hungry scumbags.
>> 
>> This is a device priced at 2600 nz dollars for me.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider
>> 
>> The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts By Reuters
>> .Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
>> to a new analysis.
>> .The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
>> $1249.
>> .Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
>> estimate that's "even close to accurate."
>> .Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
>> iPhones.
>> Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
>> keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
>> phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device.
>> TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
>> analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
>> Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
>> contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
>> the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X.
>> Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
>> on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
>> budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
>> with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
>> colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099.
>> In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single
>> priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
>> with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
>> screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size
>> was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
>> so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on
>> how hard users press the screen.
>> "All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
>> would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
>> TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost."
>> 
>> An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
>> study.
>> But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
>> decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
>> year economically.
>> "For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
>> driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
>> using the phone," O'Donnell said.
>> Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
>> primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and
>> Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
>> taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
>> analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States.
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> 

Re: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Ouch!!! I squealed at the $400 price tag of my aluminum GPS only model here in 
the U.S..
Cheers,
Donna

> On Sep 27, 2018, at 4:44 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hells teeth I hate my countrys exchange rate,
> 
> Your stainless with cellular is the same as our aluminium with wifi only.
> 
> Entry level device is750 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2018 5:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, 
> Ars Technica
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Because of all of the images and embedded tables, this was a particularly 
> challenging article to format for this post.  Consequently, I had to remove 
> the specs comparison table and additional reading references.  In order to 
> see these and other external items, use the link located at the end of the 
> article.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica
> 
> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience A $399 
> starting price is a lot to ask, but Apple added a lot to this Watch.
> by Valentina Palladino, Sep 26, 2018 5:00am PDT
> 
> The fourth iteration of the Apple Watch still looks like a tiny iPhone on 
> your wrist, but for many, it was the most exciting device announced at 
> Apple's event earlier this month. A larger screen, faster performance with 
> improved sensors, fall detection, and ECG readings are just a few of the 
> features that inspired quick interest in the Apple Watch Series 4. The steps 
> forward in health monitoring alone point to a new era for Apple's wearable, 
> and users who could benefit most from them have a compelling reason to shell 
> out $399 or more for the Series 4.
> 
> Otherwise, the Series 4 is an amalgamation of small improvements that make a 
> big difference in the Apple Watch experience. These improvements will attract 
> new users to the Watch who have been waiting for a device that's up to their 
> personal standards, and they will make existing Watch wearers question their 
> happiness with the smartwatch currently on their wrists. But while the Series 
> 4 represents the first major redesign of the Apple Watch since its birth, 
> that alone doesn't make it an automatic upgrade for all Apple Watch users.
> 
> The hardware
> Models and pricing
> 
> The Apple Watch Series 4 comes in two sizes—40mm and 44mm—and as either a 
> GPS-only device or a GPS-and-cellular device. The 40mm, GPS-only Series 4 
> Watch with an aluminum case starts at $399, and the GPS-and-cellular Watch of 
> the same size starts at $499. The 44mm, GPS-only model starts at $429, and 
> adding cellular ups the starting price to $529. Stainless steel cases are 
> only available with GPS and cellular capabilities: a 40mm Watch costs
> $699 while a 44mm Watch costs $749.
> 
> All models come standard with either a sport band or a sport loop band. The 
> special edition Nike+ Watches have exclusive Nike sport bands, but the bands 
> don't affect the prices of those models. A few GPS-and-cellular, 
> stainless-steel Watches come with the premium Milanese loop bands, and they 
> cost $799 and $849 for the 40mm and 44mm sizes, respectively.
> 
> Those who have bands from old Apple Watches are in luck—all old bands will 
> fit on the new sizes. Prices for additional bands haven't changed: a sport 
> band costs $49, while a Milanese loop (as well as special leather bands) 
> costs $149.
> 
> The Series 4 comes in an Hermés collaboration edition just like previous 
> Apple Watches. These luxury devices start at $1,249 for a 44mm stainless 
> steel model with a single leather band.
> 
> Let's talk about that new screen: first, it's the main reason the Series 4 
> comes in new case sizes. The amount of screen area is larger on this new 
> Watch, and it will tempt many to eschew their Series 3 and Series 2 Watches 
> entirely. After wearing a Series 3 for a year, the Series 4's screen is a 
> welcome change I didn't know I wanted—complications are bigger and easier to 
> tap, photos have more detail, and graphics are bold and take on new life 
> thanks to the extra space in which they can live. It's an in-your-face 
> change, even if the information on the Apple Watch's screen hasn't changed 
> much at all.
> 
> The edges of the screen are rounded now instead of sharp, but the bezels are 
> particularly noticeable when using certain watch faces. The new fire 
> animation only roars within the confines of the 759-square-mm screen area on 
> my 40mm Watch, leaving clear strips of black on all four sides.
> 
> It's impossible for the naked eye to tell, but the Series 4 display panels 
> use different technology than those on Series 3 Watches. The new LTPO 
> (Low-Temperature Polycrystalline Oxide) panels combine low-temperature 
> polysilicon thin-film transistor technology (LTPS-TFT) and Indium Gallium 
> 

Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

[lenron brown]

At least you are not one of these people Simon defending the hell out
of apple just because you use apple products. I use a couple myself
don't mean I think they are the best at everything including pricing.
In some ways they really rip you off and they know it. I mean the big
shock to me was when those computer prices jumped a year or two ago as
much as they did. With phones apple really don't care as much
especially in places where they know most will go lease the latest
device anyways. When they Realize enough is enough they will cut back.

On 9/27/18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> There are a number of things I could say here
>
> And one of them is,
> Bunch of money hungry scumbags.
>
> This is a device priced at 2600 nz dollars for me.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider
>
> The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts By Reuters
> . Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
> to a new analysis.
> . The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
> $1249.
> . Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
> estimate that's "even close to accurate."
> . Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
> iPhones.
> Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping
> keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its
> phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device.
> TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to
> analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on
> Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity
> contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for
> the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X.
> Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update
> on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the
> budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max -
> with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer
> colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099.
> In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single
> priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared
> with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch
> screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size
> was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its
> so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on
> how hard users press the screen.
> "All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate
> would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at
> TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost."
>
> An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the
> study.
> But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right
> decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this
> year economically.
> "For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's
> driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about
> using the phone," O'Donnell said.
> Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips,
> primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and
> Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while
> taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights
> analyzed sells for $1,249 in the United States.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
> te-2018-9
>
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RE: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah mark thanks for these articles,

As much as I hate apples pricing I do like to read about their reviews from 
people.

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2018 8:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, 
Ars Technica

Thanks, Mark, for taking the time to sort this article out and post it.  I just 
got the notice from BestBuy that my watch is in, so I'll be picking it up in 
about an hour.  WOOHOO!!
Donna

> On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Because of all of the images and embedded tables, this was a 
> particularly challenging article to format for this post.  
> Consequently, I had to remove the specs comparison table and 
> additional reading references.  In order to see these and other 
> external items, use the link located at the end of the article.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars 
> Technica
> 
> Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience A 
> $399 starting price is a lot to ask, but Apple added a lot to this Watch.
> by Valentina Palladino, Sep 26, 2018 5:00am PDT
> 
> The fourth iteration of the Apple Watch still looks like a tiny iPhone 
> on your wrist, but for many, it was the most exciting device announced 
> at Apple's event earlier this month. A larger screen, faster 
> performance with improved sensors, fall detection, and ECG readings 
> are just a few of the features that inspired quick interest in the 
> Apple Watch Series 4. The steps forward in health monitoring alone 
> point to a new era for Apple's wearable, and users who could benefit 
> most from them have a compelling reason to shell out $399 or more for the 
> Series 4.
> 
> Otherwise, the Series 4 is an amalgamation of small improvements that 
> make a big difference in the Apple Watch experience. These 
> improvements will attract new users to the Watch who have been waiting 
> for a device that's up to their personal standards, and they will make 
> existing Watch wearers question their happiness with the smartwatch 
> currently on their wrists. But while the Series 4 represents the first 
> major redesign of the Apple Watch since its birth, that alone doesn't 
> make it an automatic upgrade for all Apple Watch users.
> 
> The hardware
> Models and pricing
> 
> The Apple Watch Series 4 comes in two sizes—40mm and 44mm—and as 
> either a GPS-only device or a GPS-and-cellular device. The 40mm, 
> GPS-only Series 4 Watch with an aluminum case starts at $399, and the 
> GPS-and-cellular Watch of the same size starts at $499. The 44mm, 
> GPS-only model starts at $429, and adding cellular ups the starting 
> price to $529. Stainless steel cases are only available with GPS and 
> cellular capabilities: a 40mm Watch costs
> $699 while a 44mm Watch costs $749.
> 
> All models come standard with either a sport band or a sport loop 
> band. The special edition Nike+ Watches have exclusive Nike sport 
> bands, but the bands don't affect the prices of those models. A few 
> GPS-and-cellular, stainless-steel Watches come with the premium 
> Milanese loop bands, and they cost $799 and $849 for the 40mm and 44mm sizes, 
> respectively.
> 
> Those who have bands from old Apple Watches are in luck—all old bands 
> will fit on the new sizes. Prices for additional bands haven't 
> changed: a sport band costs $49, while a Milanese loop (as well as 
> special leather bands) costs $149.
> 
> The Series 4 comes in an Hermés collaboration edition just like 
> previous Apple Watches. These luxury devices start at $1,249 for a 
> 44mm stainless steel model with a single leather band.
> 
> Let's talk about that new screen: first, it's the main reason the 
> Series 4 comes in new case sizes. The amount of screen area is larger 
> on this new Watch, and it will tempt many to eschew their Series 3 and 
> Series 2 Watches entirely. After wearing a Series 3 for a year, the 
> Series 4's screen is a welcome change I didn't know I 
> wanted—complications are bigger and easier to tap, photos have more 
> detail, and graphics are bold and take on new life thanks to the extra 
> space in which they can live. It's an in-your-face change, even if the 
> information on the Apple Watch's screen hasn't changed much at all.
> 
> The edges of the screen are rounded now instead of sharp, but the 
> bezels are particularly noticeable when using certain watch faces. The 
> new fire animation only roars within the confines of the 759-square-mm 
> screen area on my 40mm Watch, leaving clear strips of black on all four sides.
> 
> It's impossible for the naked eye to tell, but the Series 4 display 
> panels use different technology than those on Series 3 Watches. The 
> new LTPO (Low-Temperature Polycrystalline Oxide) panels combine 
> low-temperature polysilicon thin-film transistor technology 

RE: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica

[Simon Fogarty]

Hells teeth I hate my countrys exchange rate,

Your stainless with cellular is the same as our aluminium with wifi only.

Entry level device is750 


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2018 5:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars 
Technica

Hello Everyone,

Because of all of the images and embedded tables, this was a particularly 
challenging article to format for this post.  Consequently, I had to remove the 
specs comparison table and additional reading references.  In order to see 
these and other external items, use the link located at the end of the article.

Enjoy,

Mark

Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience, Ars Technica

Apple Watch Series 4 review: A bigger, better watchOS experience A $399 
starting price is a lot to ask, but Apple added a lot to this Watch.
by Valentina Palladino, Sep 26, 2018 5:00am PDT
 
The fourth iteration of the Apple Watch still looks like a tiny iPhone on your 
wrist, but for many, it was the most exciting device announced at Apple's event 
earlier this month. A larger screen, faster performance with improved sensors, 
fall detection, and ECG readings are just a few of the features that inspired 
quick interest in the Apple Watch Series 4. The steps forward in health 
monitoring alone point to a new era for Apple's wearable, and users who could 
benefit most from them have a compelling reason to shell out $399 or more for 
the Series 4.

Otherwise, the Series 4 is an amalgamation of small improvements that make a 
big difference in the Apple Watch experience. These improvements will attract 
new users to the Watch who have been waiting for a device that's up to their 
personal standards, and they will make existing Watch wearers question their 
happiness with the smartwatch currently on their wrists. But while the Series 4 
represents the first major redesign of the Apple Watch since its birth, that 
alone doesn't make it an automatic upgrade for all Apple Watch users.

The hardware
Models and pricing

The Apple Watch Series 4 comes in two sizes—40mm and 44mm—and as either a 
GPS-only device or a GPS-and-cellular device. The 40mm, GPS-only Series 4 Watch 
with an aluminum case starts at $399, and the GPS-and-cellular Watch of the 
same size starts at $499. The 44mm, GPS-only model starts at $429, and adding 
cellular ups the starting price to $529. Stainless steel cases are only 
available with GPS and cellular capabilities: a 40mm Watch costs
$699 while a 44mm Watch costs $749.

All models come standard with either a sport band or a sport loop band. The 
special edition Nike+ Watches have exclusive Nike sport bands, but the bands 
don't affect the prices of those models. A few GPS-and-cellular, 
stainless-steel Watches come with the premium Milanese loop bands, and they 
cost $799 and $849 for the 40mm and 44mm sizes, respectively.

Those who have bands from old Apple Watches are in luck—all old bands will fit 
on the new sizes. Prices for additional bands haven't changed: a sport band 
costs $49, while a Milanese loop (as well as special leather bands) costs $149.

The Series 4 comes in an Hermés collaboration edition just like previous Apple 
Watches. These luxury devices start at $1,249 for a 44mm stainless steel model 
with a single leather band.

Let's talk about that new screen: first, it's the main reason the Series 4 
comes in new case sizes. The amount of screen area is larger on this new Watch, 
and it will tempt many to eschew their Series 3 and Series 2 Watches entirely. 
After wearing a Series 3 for a year, the Series 4's screen is a welcome change 
I didn't know I wanted—complications are bigger and easier to tap, photos have 
more detail, and graphics are bold and take on new life thanks to the extra 
space in which they can live. It's an in-your-face change, even if the 
information on the Apple Watch's screen hasn't changed much at all.

The edges of the screen are rounded now instead of sharp, but the bezels are 
particularly noticeable when using certain watch faces. The new fire animation 
only roars within the confines of the 759-square-mm screen area on my 40mm 
Watch, leaving clear strips of black on all four sides.

It's impossible for the naked eye to tell, but the Series 4 display panels use 
different technology than those on Series 3 Watches. The new LTPO 
(Low-Temperature Polycrystalline Oxide) panels combine low-temperature 
polysilicon thin-film transistor technology (LTPS-TFT) and Indium Gallium Zinc 
Oxide technology (IGZO, or Oxide TFT) into one display. This means the result 
is the best of both worlds. Essentially, LTPO tech produces a high-quality OLED 
display that consumes less power.

The main way Apple's LTPO displays drain less power is through dynamically 
adjusting refresh rates. Depending on the content on the screen, the internal 

RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

[Simon Fogarty]

There are a number of things I could say here 

And one of them is,
Bunch of money hungry scumbags.

This is a device priced at 2600 nz dollars for me.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business Insider

The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts By Reuters
.   Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according
to a new analysis.
.   The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for
$1249.
.   Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown
estimate that's "even close to accurate."
.   Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its
iPhones.
Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, helping 
keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its 
phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device. 
TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to analyze 
their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on Tuesday that 
the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity contains about $443 in 
parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 for the 64-gigabyte version of 
last year's iPhone X. 
Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an update on 
last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and the 
budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max - 
with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer colors - 
that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099. 
In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the single 
priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared with 
$77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch screen. The 
relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen size was because 
Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its so-called 3D 
Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending on how hard users 
press the screen. 
"All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate would 
have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at TechInsights, 
told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in cost." 
An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the study. 
But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the right 
decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model this 
year economically. 
"For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's 
driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about using 
the phone," O'Donnell said. 
Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips, 
primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel and 
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance while 
taking up the same space. The 256-gigabyte iPhone Xs Max TechInsights analyzed 
sells for $1,249 in the United States. 

Original Article at:
https://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-xs-max-teardown-and-parts-cost-estima
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