Re: orbit reader and mac?

[Mary Otten]

I think the question I would have is this. Which displays do allow you to 
update using them mac? Seems to me that most of them if not all do not.


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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   Same deal with the Focus from Freedom Scientific. The Focus is fine as a 
> display with Mac and iDevices but Windows is required for updating it. A 
> friend told me all it takes is to use HID (Human Interface Device) for 
> universal access. Don't know if the braille display makers are moving in that 
> direction.
> 
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>> On 10/20/2018 7:43 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> Hmmm perhaps all mac users who are using an orbit reader need to unite. too 
>> expensive? I wouldn’t have thought it would be that expensive to make a mac 
>> version of the updater, but then what do i know.
>> I will still get the device, cause there is nothing else i can frankly 
>> afford but i feel a braille display is becoming essential with the way 
>> technology is.
>> Maria
>>> On 21 Oct 2018, at 10:35 am, alia robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> they basically told me no plans were being made; it would be too expensive, 
>>> and when I pointed out if it was a display for all there should be a 
>>> universal way to update not tied to an operating system they told me that 
>>> was too bad this was the way it was, and to stop complaining. put me off 
>>> the dvice altogether.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also have any mac users started any kind of discussion with the 
>>> manufacturers about being able to update the reader with a mac?
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Re: orbit reader and mac?

[Maria Chapman]

HI.

hmmm so it’s not the only braille display that won’t update on mac.  that’s 
interesting.

Maria


> On 21 Oct 2018, at 1:54 pm, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Same deal with the Focus from Freedom Scientific. The Focus is fine as a 
> display with Mac and iDevices but Windows is required for updating it. A 
> friend told me all it takes is to use HID (Human Interface Device) for 
> universal access. Don't know if the braille display makers are moving in that 
> direction.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 10/20/2018 7:43 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> Hmmm perhaps all mac users who are using an orbit reader need to unite. too 
>> expensive? I wouldn’t have thought it would be that expensive to make a mac 
>> version of the updater, but then what do i know.
>> I will still get the device, cause there is nothing else i can frankly 
>> afford but i feel a braille display is becoming essential with the way 
>> technology is.
>> Maria
>>> On 21 Oct 2018, at 10:35 am, alia robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> they basically told me no plans were being made; it would be too expensive, 
>>> and when I pointed out if it was a display for all there should be a 
>>> universal way to update not tied to an operating system they told me that 
>>> was too bad this was the way it was, and to stop complaining. put me off 
>>> the dvice altogether.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also have any mac users started any kind of discussion with the 
>>> manufacturers about being able to update the reader with a mac?
>>> 
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Re: orbit reader and mac?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Same deal with the Focus from Freedom Scientific. The Focus is fine 
as a display with Mac and iDevices but Windows is required for updating 
it. A friend told me all it takes is to use HID (Human Interface Device) 
for universal access. Don't know if the braille display makers are 
moving in that direction.


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/20/2018 7:43 PM, Maria Chapman wrote:

Hmmm perhaps all mac users who are using an orbit reader need to unite. too 
expensive? I wouldn’t have thought it would be that expensive to make a mac 
version of the updater, but then what do i know.
I will still get the device, cause there is nothing else i can frankly afford 
but i feel a braille display is becoming essential with the way technology is.

Maria



On 21 Oct 2018, at 10:35 am, alia robinson  wrote:

they basically told me no plans were being made; it would be too expensive, and 
when I pointed out if it was a display for all there should be a universal way 
to update not tied to an operating system they told me that was too bad this 
was the way it was, and to stop complaining. put me off the dvice altogether.

On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:


Also have any mac users started any kind of discussion with the manufacturers 
about being able to update the reader with a mac?

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Re: orbit reader and mac?

[Maria Chapman]

Hmmm perhaps all mac users who are using an orbit reader need to unite. too 
expensive? I wouldn’t have thought it would be that expensive to make a mac 
version of the updater, but then what do i know.
I will still get the device, cause there is nothing else i can frankly afford 
but i feel a braille display is becoming essential with the way technology is.

Maria


> On 21 Oct 2018, at 10:35 am, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> they basically told me no plans were being made; it would be too expensive, 
> and when I pointed out if it was a display for all there should be a 
> universal way to update not tied to an operating system they told me that was 
> too bad this was the way it was, and to stop complaining. put me off the 
> dvice altogether.
> 
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Also have any mac users started any kind of discussion with the manufacturers 
> about being able to update the reader with a mac?
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Voice dream reader update successful

[Mary Otten]

Since I have had some fairly serious disappointments with certain upgrades of 
this app in the past, I thought I would report that I finally bit the bullet 
and updated to the latest version just now. Apparently, everything went well. I 
had to do it, because when my new iPhone comes next week, it’s going to install 
the latest version, which would not be compatible with my current library. So 
it looks like all’s well that ends well.
Mary


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Re: OT need TV recommendations re accessibility

[Mary Otten]

It’s probably not so odd that they recommend Samsung. After all, their main 
concern is not Accessibility. For my money, given that the voice on the Amazon 
fire TV is so much better than any of the rest of them, you can’t beat it. I 
don’t care about the picture. Everything is accessible. I do have a Samsung. If 
I had to have just one or the other, it’s no contest.
Mary


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> Thanks for the input. Oddly Consumer Reports recommends Samsung.
> 
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Re: OT need TV recommendations re accessibility

[Marie Lyons]

Thanks for the input. Oddly Consumer Reports recommends Samsung.


Marie Lyons

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Re: Trouble Sharing Photos to Facebook and Twitter

[N2KPV]

Sorry if I am posting twice . Not sure if my reply went through . It is my 
Mac  I am having the issue with .  I wonder if there is an alternative way 
to post to FB.

On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-4, Tim Kilburn wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Is this on a Mac or an iOS device?  I believe that this feature has been 
> removed from the Mac for security reasons.
>
> Later...
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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 16:34, N2KPV > 
> wrote:
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> I used to be able to go into Photos and select a photo and share it to 
> Facebook or Twitter .  Today when  I clicked share ,Facebook and Twitter 
> did not show up . Is there something I am missing ?I have been doing 
> this for years . I wonder if I accidentally
>  changed a setting .
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> Any help would be appreciated , Ben C.
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Re: Trouble Sharing Photos to Facebook and Twitter

[Ben Constantini]

Yes , it is on my Mac.  Thanks , is there another way to post photos from Mac 
to FB or Twitter ?  I have no problem doing it from the Phone .

Ben  C.

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Is this on a Mac or an iOS device?  I believe that this feature has been 
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> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 16:34, N2KPV  > wrote:
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> I used to be able to go into Photos and select a photo and share it to 
> Facebook or Twitter .  Today when  I clicked share ,Facebook and Twitter did 
> not show up . Is there something I am missing ?I have been doing this for 
> years . I wonder if I accidentally
>  changed a setting .
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Re: orbit reader and mac?

[alia robinson]

they basically told me no plans were being made; it would be too expensive, and 
when I pointed out if it was a display for all there should be a universal way 
to update not tied to an operating system they told me that was too bad this 
was the way it was, and to stop complaining. put me off the dvice altogether.

On Oct 20, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:


Also have any mac users started any kind of discussion with the manufacturers 
about being able to update the reader with a mac?

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orbit reader and mac?

[Maria Chapman]

Hi list.

I am about to get an orbit reader, when it arrives. Someone on the VIphone 
list, was saying the orbit reader couldn’t be used as a mass storage device on 
mac.  I already know it can’t be updated using a mac, which is a bit of a pain, 
and either means I will have to run a virtual machine or get a small netbook.  
I was wondering though as I am running NTFS for mac, will the orbit reader work 
as a drive? or will I still need to use a card reader?  Not a huge problem as I 
have a card reader on my mac, but I was just curious.

Also have any mac users started any kind of discussion with the manufacturers 
about being able to update the reader with a mac?

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Re: Trouble Sharing Photos to Facebook and Twitter

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Is this on a Mac or an iOS device?  I believe that this feature has been 
removed from the Mac for security reasons.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 20, 2018, at 16:34, N2KPV  wrote:

I used to be able to go into Photos and select a photo and share it to Facebook 
or Twitter .  Today when  I clicked share ,Facebook and Twitter did not show up 
. Is there something I am missing ?I have been doing this for years . I 
wonder if I accidentally
 changed a setting .

Any help would be appreciated , Ben C.

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Trouble Sharing Photos to Facebook and Twitter

[N2KPV]

I used to be able to go into Photos and select a photo and share it to 
Facebook or Twitter .  Today when  I clicked share ,Facebook and Twitter 
did not show up . Is there something I am missing ?I have been doing 
this for years . I wonder if I accidentally
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Battery issues with new iPhone 8

[Mary Otten]

I’m writing this on behalf of a friend who’s not on this list. He recently 
purchased an iPhone 8, and he is finding that his battery is not lasting well 
at all. For instance, overnight with the screen locked and nothing running in 
the background, he went from 100% to 43%. I seem to recall somebody saying that 
resetting network settings helps, although I don’t understand why it should. 
And I assume although I just did ask him in an email, have you rebooted the 
phone? Other than those two things, is there anything else he can do?
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Re: Inaccessible experience purchasing an iPhone through T-Mobile

[Mary Otten]

No, of course you wouldn’t have that problem at the store. My problem is that I 
did not want to have somebody take me to the store and then have to wait while 
we went through the process. I thought I could just do it from home online 
which I have done before. Not this time, at least not until my husband got home 
and could complete that final step.


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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:03 AM, matthew dyer  
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> Hi, I never had that problem.  I just got my iPhone 8 Plus just last week and 
> went strate to the t-mobile store.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Mary Otten 
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 8:33:24 PM
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Inaccessible experience purchasing an iPhone through T-Mobile
>  
> I purchased, or I should say I pre-ordered, an iPhone XR today through 
> T-Mobile. I first tried on the website, but it kept saying it was having 
> problems loading and I should retry. So I ended up calling my “team of 
> experts“ on my current T-Mobile phone. The Customer Service from T-Mobile was 
> very good. The woman got my order and sent me an email with a link that I had 
> to use in order to electronically sign the document. They use a service 
> called Doc you sign. And the very last thing you have to do with that service 
> before you submit the order is to draw your initials or write your name in a 
> box on the page. Naturally, voiceover does not see this box, so this process 
> is not accessible. The customer service person at T-Mobile was apparently on 
> familiar with this process, as she had really no knowledge of this in 
> accessible box. When my husband got home tonight, he did the signing. When I 
> am curious about is whether anyone has found a way around this ridiculous in 
> accessible feature. It seems to me I’ve purchased an iPhone a couple of years 
> ago from T-Mobile using the same process, only I don’t think it was doc you 
> sign. Or if it was, I didn’t have that stupid box. I wonder how others did 
> with their online purchases through carriers.
> Mary
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Re: Inaccessible experience purchasing an iPhone through T-Mobile

[matthew dyer]

Hi, I never had that problem.  I just got my iPhone 8 Plus just last week and 
went strate to the t-mobile store.
Matthew



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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 8:33:24 PM
To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Inaccessible experience purchasing an iPhone through T-Mobile

I purchased, or I should say I pre-ordered, an iPhone XR today through 
T-Mobile. I first tried on the website, but it kept saying it was having 
problems loading and I should retry. So I ended up calling my “team of experts“ 
on my current T-Mobile phone. The Customer Service from T-Mobile was very good. 
The woman got my order and sent me an email with a link that I had to use in 
order to electronically sign the document. They use a service called Doc you 
sign. And the very last thing you have to do with that service before you 
submit the order is to draw your initials or write your name in a box on the 
page. Naturally, voiceover does not see this box, so this process is not 
accessible. The customer service person at T-Mobile was apparently on familiar 
with this process, as she had really no knowledge of this in accessible box. 
When my husband got home tonight, he did the signing. When I am curious about 
is whether anyone has found a way around this ridiculous in accessible feature. 
It seems to me I’ve purchased an iPhone a couple of years ago from T-Mobile 
using the same process, only I don’t think it was doc you sign. Or if it was, I 
didn’t have that stupid box. I wonder how others did with their online 
purchases through carriers.
Mary


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Re: Upgrading to a new iPhone with two factor authentication

[David Chittenden]

Yes, you are correct. When switching to a new device, the device will download 
the latest app. It will also transfer all the data from the old device for each 
app.

Kind regards,

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> On 20 Oct 2018, at 12:07, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Thanks, David. So just one more question. I have a slightly older version of 
> voice dream reader on my old phone. I kept it because it does when I want, 
> and I didn’t want to chance losing my big library. It’s my understanding that 
> apps are actually not transferred over, but the latest versions are 
> downloaded from the App Store. That would mean I would need to get my Voice 
> Dream and it’s associated library updated, right? Or I’m going to have a big 
> problem.
> 
> 
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>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 7:04 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, Apple has finally made it much easier now. Just place the new 
>> phone near the old phone and have the old phone unlocked. IOS will transfer 
>> everything across for you. You can change the SIM card before you start, or 
>> after you finish. I believe I changed the SIM card first when I did it last 
>> year. It really is slick and easy. Just make sure you are in a WIFI network.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 20 Oct 2018, at 10:46, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s been along time since I’ve had to deal with either getting a new phone 
>>> or using two factor authentication. What I remember from the last time I 
>>> bought a phone is that you have to put the Sim from your old phone into 
>>> your new phone in order to get the process of getting your phone up and 
>>> running started. I also remember some problems with two factor 
>>> authentication in the past, having to do with needing to have two devices 
>>> on the same network or something, so that I could get a message on one that 
>>> would then be typed into the other one in order to continue with the 
>>> process. Does anybody know of documentation somewhere that spells out just 
>>> what you have to do? I mean, here I would have my old phone on my Wi-Fi 
>>> network but no Sim, so no cellular connection. The new phone will be 
>>> presumably on the cellular network but I can’t remember where the Wi-Fi 
>>> setting comes in. Anyway, all I need is a pointer in the right direction I 
>>> guess.
>>> Mary
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