Re: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Dave Carlson]

My favorite  pre iPhone was the Nokia N95, with Talks installed.

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AD inclusive movies

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey Petrus,

You mentionecd the rugby world cup and not talking about it with Tim,

Why did something happen that might affect Canadians?

I'm not sure I could come up with 63 points to  discuss,

Although I'm pretty sure the opposite would happen if it was the Canadian 
hockey team verses the NZ hockey team,


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RE: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Dave,

I remember those days also,

I’d actually like to get a nokia 3310 candy bar phone which has been re released

It’s got an android OS version on it but no talkback which makes it pretty much 
unusable.

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Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 4:05 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

I didn’t imply that it was the iPhone. I got my first mobile flip phone back in 
the 80s. A Nokia and it was pretty tiny.

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RE: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Simon A Fogarty]

Dude,

;12 years ago,

The iPhone 3 it was over here

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Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 11:51 AM
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Although your email prompted me to ask Siri when the first iPhone was released. 
I no it’s not 30 years. Instead of Siri saying the usual “here’s what I found 
on the web for when was the first iPhone released, take a look” it said; “let 
me direct you to Apples rather fabulous web-site”. At least they are modest…not.


On 3/10/2019, at 10:59, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

At long last, after 30 years of evolution, the current iPhone is now exactly 
the correct size to fit into my HP-45 calculator leather case. Very stylish, 
and I can be smug about hoarding old stuff for years
Dave Carlson
Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer





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RE: Re:

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Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 11:32 AM
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Hi 
I was not looking for a new iPhone .  I am just looking for a accessible tv .  
I will put a item in the subject in the future .

becky 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:24 PM, maurice.mines  wrote:
> 
> Hi Becky, please contact me off last and I have questions hopefully you’ve 
> got some answers. The first question, which model of iPhone are we talking 
> about here question also let me see if I can find an issue of contorts on the 
> MLS website that I can sing you the link to so that you can go through the 
> ratings of smart TVs that can handle the video Stream from your phone 
> providing that it’s a Neuner model. Hope this helps?
> 
> PS in the future you might try checking to see if you can attach a subject to 
> your email mini email clients Will not reply to messages that don’t have a 
> subject for fear that they may be malicious emails. I just had a bit of a 
> struggle with my security software to allow me to even reply to your message.
> 
> On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:18, Rebecca Sabo wrote:whgy not get a new phone and 
> watch tv on that using on demand tv apps 
>> Hi all I am in the process of getting the Hulu stream to watch on smart TVs 
>> and iPhone and other devices. My question is what kind of TV does that work 
>> hon what kind you need will work on a fire stick? Right now I have the Roku 
>> TV but it doesn’t very work very well any suggestions that would be great 
>> Becky
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RE: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah
I’m in the opposite situation where nothing fits my new 11 mac pro
Great phone,
Bad idea buying that model.

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Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 11:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

Hahaha, it’s the small things in life that make us happy.


On 3/10/2019, at 10:59, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

At long last, after 30 years of evolution, the current iPhone is now exactly 
the correct size to fit into my HP-45 calculator leather case. Very stylish, 
and I can be smug about hoarding old stuff for years
Dave Carlson
Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer





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RE: Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Simon A Fogarty]

Petrus

If I could  easily find my dvd copies I could have a look but I have to agree 
with tim that
Apple have updated movies I’ve purchased to newer versions,

They started doing this a few years ago when gthey bought out the apple tv 4K,

They started updating any movies people had purchased so that the older copies 
were replaced with updated 4K versions and included such things as AD and the 
other one which I can never remember

By the way it’s not you it’s your kids marty, somethings gotta be done about 
your kids!

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Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 8:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

Hi Tim,
Well that does give me some hope as the movie  bundle I want hasn’t got audio 
description yet. Hopefully one day if we go back to the future it might get it. 
There’s your clue. Oh, and we won’t talk about rugby, or the World Cup.


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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual titles, 
then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple actually 
only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of accessing.  In 
fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet have audio 
description, but within months it did.  I did not need to purchase a new copy, 
it just became audio described next time I watched it.  Of course, this only 
works if you stream it, or download the newest version from Apple, because a 
downloaded version will not be updated.

I hope that this makes sense.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have found 
two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio description. 
You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less than if you 
purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the bundle, audio 
description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder if this is a 
matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, audio 
description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out that I 
lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to have to 
spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio description.
Mary


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RE: Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Simon A Fogarty]

2  coming of age classics,

f

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 8:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

The movies are 16 candles and the breakfast club.
Mary


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On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Mary,
I’m curious as to what movies they are? As every time I’ve looked up movies 
with audio description they have been the same regardless weather they ar in a 
bundle or you get them one by one.


On 3/10/2019, at 07:36, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks, Tim. It does make sense. I was actually really surprised to see that 
the two movies I am interested in were listed with audio description, since 
both of them came out way before audio description was at all common. So, I 
guess I will take the plunge and see what happens. I suppose I can always try 
to get a refund if audio description is not there.
Mary

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On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Hi,

As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual titles, 
then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple actually 
only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of accessing.  In 
fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet have audio 
description, but within months it did.  I did not need to purchase a new copy, 
it just became audio described next time I watched it.  Of course, this only 
works if you stream it, or download the newest version from Apple, because a 
downloaded version will not be updated.

I hope that this makes sense.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have found 
two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio description. 
You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less than if you 
purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the bundle, audio 
description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder if this is a 
matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, audio 
description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out that I 
lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to have to 
spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio description.
Mary


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RE: SIRI will not connect to Internet when away from WiFi

[Simon A Fogarty]

Is your mobile data turned on?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: SIRI will not connect to Internet when away from WiFi

When I am away from WiFi, Siri will not connect to Internet. Is there a setting 
that needs to be changed. I can send and receive call and text.
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RE: Reading Sender Email Address

[Simon A Fogarty]

Simple would be to do a reply and see what from address shows in the headers 

 But that isn't a good option as from can be fooled 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2019 2:08 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Reading Sender Email Address

There are times when I want to know the actual email address of a sender. In 
particular, when I have a mail message that seems fishy. How do I get to the 
FROM: field so that I can read the underlying address of the sender? Can’t seem 
to get at it in the message headers section. Perhaps I need to adjust a setting?

Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician

If you are thinking phishing then copy any url that the emails trying to get 
you to go to in to a text document and see what it says,





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Re: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Dave Carlson]

I didn’t imply that it was the iPhone. I got my first mobile flip phone back in 
the 80s. A Nokia and it was pretty tiny.

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Re: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Although your email prompted me to ask Siri when the first iPhone was released. 
I no it’s not 30 years. Instead of Siri saying the usual “here’s what I found 
on the web for when was the first iPhone released, take a look” it said; “let 
me direct you to Apples rather fabulous web-site”. At least they are 
modest…not. 

> On 3/10/2019, at 10:59, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> At long last, after 30 years of evolution, the current iPhone is now exactly 
> the correct size to fit into my HP-45 calculator leather case. Very stylish, 
> and I can be smug about hoarding old stuff for years
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Re:

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi 
I was not looking for a new iPhone .  I am just looking for a accessible tv .  
I will put a item in the subject in the future .

becky 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:24 PM, maurice.mines  wrote:
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> Hi Becky, please contact me off last and I have questions hopefully you’ve 
> got some answers. The first question, which model of iPhone are we talking 
> about here question also let me see if I can find an issue of contorts on the 
> MLS website that I can sing you the link to so that you can go through the 
> ratings of smart TVs that can handle the video Stream from your phone 
> providing that it’s a Neuner model. Hope this helps?
> 
> PS in the future you might try checking to see if you can attach a subject to 
> your email mini email clients Will not reply to messages that don’t have a 
> subject for fear that they may be malicious emails. I just had a bit of a 
> struggle with my security software to allow me to even reply to your message.
> 
> On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:18, Rebecca Sabo wrote:
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>> Hi all I am in the process of getting the Hulu stream to watch on smart TVs 
>> and iPhone and other devices. My question is what kind of TV does that work 
>> hon what kind you need will work on a fire stick? Right now I have the Roku 
>> TV but it doesn’t very work very well any suggestions that would be great 
>> Becky
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Re: Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hahaha, it’s the small things in life that make us happy.

> On 3/10/2019, at 10:59, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> the correct size to fit into my HP-45 calculator leather case. Very stylish, 
> and I can be smug about hoarding old stuff for years
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Long-Term RE-Purposing Acheived!

[Dave Carlson]

At long last, after 30 years of evolution, the current iPhone is now exactly 
the correct size to fit into my HP-45 calculator leather case. Very stylish, 
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mail question when not using classic view

[Christina]

Hi,

I was experimenting using mail in nonclassic view. Is there a way to change the 
way VO reads the message headers such as subject, sender, etc? I’d like to hear 
the subject first. 

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Re: Restarting Voice Control

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Hi,
I’ve not used voice control yet but when you say you plugged in headphones, has 
the headphones got a microphone in them?

> On 3/10/2019, at 09:33, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello, 
> I am running IOS 13.1.1 on an iPhone 8. I set up Voice Control to try it out 
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> Control so I turned Voice Control  off. I then plugged in headphones and 
> tried to turn on Voice Control again. It claimed to be on in settings but it 
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> Many thanks….
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Restarting Voice Control

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Hello, 
I am running IOS 13.1.1 on an iPhone 8. I set up Voice Control to try it out 
and it worked OK. However VoiceOver on my phone speaker sometimes upset Voice 
Control so I turned Voice Control  off. I then plugged in headphones and tried 
to turn on Voice Control again. It claimed to be on in settings but it did not 
respond to any spoken commands. I then tried restarting my phone but that did 
not help.
Any ideas on how to get Voice Control restarted?
Many thanks….
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Shortcuts App on the iPhone

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Hi all, 
Yesterday I updated to 1.2 of the IOS 13 releases and I noticed it made 
reference to fixing a shortcuts App bug. However it has seemed to have done the 
opposite for me. One of my shortcuts is now broken, has anyone else had any 
problems. There is one song in my music app that I play each morning on waking 
up and this morning I asked Siri to play morning song and all it said was 
“Sorry there is a problem with the app. And when I go into the shortcuts app to 
have a look at that shortcuts it minimises the app as soon as I try to look at 
that particular shortcut. 
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Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

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Hi Tim,
Well that does give me some hope as the movie  bundle I want hasn’t got audio 
description yet. Hopefully one day if we go back to the future it might get it. 
There’s your clue. Oh, and we won’t talk about rugby, or the World Cup. 

> On 3/10/2019, at 07:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual 
> titles, then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple 
> actually only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of 
> accessing.  In fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet have 
> audio description, but within months it did.  I did not need to purchase a 
> new copy, it just became audio described next time I watched it.  Of course, 
> this only works if you stream it, or download the newest version from Apple, 
> because a downloaded version will not be updated.
> 
> I hope that this makes sense.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten  > wrote:
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> Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have 
> found two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio 
> description. You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less than 
> if you purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the bundle, 
> audio description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder if this 
> is a matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, audio 
> description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out that I 
> lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to have to 
> spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio description.
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Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Jeff Berwick]

You are correct.  I had my language set to Canadian English which gave me the 
British voice.  So, I’ve had to change to American English and that has given 
me female SIRI or some American female voice.

Thanks for that!

Jeff


> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:03 AM, João de Sousa e Silva  wrote:
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> Think it is up to the “language region”, under General, in the Watch  App, in 
> iOS. I may have to wait for the download of the voice, that happens just when 
> the Watch is charging. Then, you may need to set it up, change it, and set It 
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> process. But, definitely  possible. Good Luck!
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>> I’ve never been able to get my watch to change to a different British voice. 
>> We are lumbered with one male voice no matter whether you use Siri female 
>> voice on your iPhone. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:50, Jeff Berwick  
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 
>>> 
>>> I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want 
>>> and I can’t find a way to change that.
>>> 
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Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Petrus Tuerlings]

You’ll be fine getting them in the bundle, I just had a look and audio 
description is in the bundle as well. You have to open each movie in the bundle 
and look at the details in there.

> On 3/10/2019, at 08:19, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> The movies are 16 candles and the breakfast club.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> I’m curious as to what movies they are? As every time I’ve looked up movies 
>> with audio description they have been the same regardless weather they ar in 
>> a bundle or you get them one by one.  
>> 
>>> On 3/10/2019, at 07:36, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Tim. It does make sense. I was actually really surprised to see 
>>> that the two movies I am interested in were listed with audio description, 
>>> since both of them came out way before audio description was at all common. 
>>> So, I guess I will take the plunge and see what happens. I suppose I can 
>>> always try to get a refund if audio description is not there.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual 
 titles, then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that 
 Apple actually only has one master download that is linked to multiple 
 ways of accessing.  In fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did 
 not yet have audio description, but within months it did.  I did not need 
 to purchase a new copy, it just became audio described next time I watched 
 it.  Of course, this only works if you stream it, or download the newest 
 version from Apple, because a downloaded version will not be updated.
 
 I hope that this makes sense.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Jamf Certified Associate
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten >>> > wrote:
 
 Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have 
 found two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio 
 description. You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less 
 than if you purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the 
 bundle, audio description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I 
 wonder if this is a matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a 
 bundle, audio description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks 
 and find out that I lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t 
 feel very good to have to spend more to buy the films separately just in 
 order to get audio description.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Mary Otten]

The movies are 16 candles and the breakfast club.
Mary


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> On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I’m curious as to what movies they are? As every time I’ve looked up movies 
> with audio description they have been the same regardless weather they ar in 
> a bundle or you get them one by one.  
> 
>> On 3/10/2019, at 07:36, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Tim. It does make sense. I was actually really surprised to see that 
>> the two movies I am interested in were listed with audio description, since 
>> both of them came out way before audio description was at all common. So, I 
>> guess I will take the plunge and see what happens. I suppose I can always 
>> try to get a refund if audio description is not there.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual 
>>> titles, then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple 
>>> actually only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of 
>>> accessing.  In fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet 
>>> have audio description, but within months it did.  I did not need to 
>>> purchase a new copy, it just became audio described next time I watched it. 
>>>  Of course, this only works if you stream it, or download the newest 
>>> version from Apple, because a downloaded version will not be updated.
>>> 
>>> I hope that this makes sense.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have 
>>> found two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio 
>>> description. You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less 
>>> than if you purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the 
>>> bundle, audio description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I 
>>> wonder if this is a matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a 
>>> bundle, audio description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and 
>>> find out that I lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel 
>>> very good to have to spend more to buy the films separately just in order 
>>> to get audio description.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: SIRI will not connect to Internet when away from WiFi

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Have you got mobile data available on your plan and is it turned on in settings?

> On 3/10/2019, at 08:16, Loy Green  wrote:
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When I am away from WiFi, Siri will not connect to Internet. Is there a setting 
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Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Mary,
I’m curious as to what movies they are? As every time I’ve looked up movies 
with audio description they have been the same regardless weather they ar in a 
bundle or you get them one by one.  

> On 3/10/2019, at 07:36, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Tim. It does make sense. I was actually really surprised to see that 
> the two movies I am interested in were listed with audio description, since 
> both of them came out way before audio description was at all common. So, I 
> guess I will take the plunge and see what happens. I suppose I can always try 
> to get a refund if audio description is not there.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual 
>> titles, then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple 
>> actually only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of 
>> accessing.  In fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet have 
>> audio description, but within months it did.  I did not need to purchase a 
>> new copy, it just became audio described next time I watched it.  Of course, 
>> this only works if you stream it, or download the newest version from Apple, 
>> because a downloaded version will not be updated.
>> 
>> I hope that this makes sense.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have 
>> found two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio 
>> description. You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less 
>> than if you purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the 
>> bundle, audio description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder 
>> if this is a matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, 
>> audio description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out 
>> that I lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to 
>> have to spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio 
>> description.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Tim. It does make sense. I was actually really surprised to see that 
the two movies I am interested in were listed with audio description, since 
both of them came out way before audio description was at all common. So, I 
guess I will take the plunge and see what happens. I suppose I can always try 
to get a refund if audio description is not there.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:32 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual 
> titles, then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple 
> actually only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of 
> accessing.  In fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet have 
> audio description, but within months it did.  I did not need to purchase a 
> new copy, it just became audio described next time I watched it.  Of course, 
> this only works if you stream it, or download the newest version from Apple, 
> because a downloaded version will not be updated.
> 
> I hope that this makes sense.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have 
> found two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio 
> description. You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less than 
> if you purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the bundle, 
> audio description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder if this 
> is a matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, audio 
> description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out that I 
> lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to have to 
> spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio description.
> Mary
> 
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Re: Movies with audio description on iTunes

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

As far as I know, if audio description is available for the individual titles, 
then it will also be available in the bundle.  I believe that Apple actually 
only has one master download that is linked to multiple ways of accessing.  In 
fact, I've purchased bundles where the movie did not yet have audio 
description, but within months it did.  I did not need to purchase a new copy, 
it just became audio described next time I watched it.  Of course, this only 
works if you stream it, or download the newest version from Apple, because a 
downloaded version will not be updated.

I hope that this makes sense.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 2, 2019, at 12:18, Mary Otten  wrote:

Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have found 
two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio description. 
You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less than if you 
purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the bundle, audio 
description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder if this is a 
matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, audio 
description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out that I 
lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to have to 
spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio description.
Mary


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Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Seems that I should wait getting one until they fix the bugs in watchOS.
/A

> 2 okt. 2019 kl. 01:50 skrev Simon A Fogarty :
> 
> What?
> 
> I had no idea you could change the voice on watch os 
> 
> 
> Has anyone noticed that the  battery life with watch os 6 is very short 
> compared to that of previous os  versions?
> 
> I'm lucky if I get a full day out of my s4 with watch os 6.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 4:50 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Voiceover and WatchOS 6
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 
> 
> I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and 
> I can’t find a way to change that.
> 
> Tia,
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Movies with audio description on iTunes

[Mary Otten]

Does anyone have experience purchasing bundle of movies on iTunes? I have found 
two separate movies on iTunes both of which say they have audio description. 
You can also get both of them in a bundle, which costs less than if you 
purchased the two movies separately. But when I look at the bundle, audio 
description is not mentioned. Only closed captioning. I wonder if this is a 
matter of space saving, or if, somehow, when you buy a bundle, audio 
description gets left out. I would hate to spend 20 bucks and find out that I 
lose audio description. Of course, it also doesn’t feel very good to have to 
spend more to buy the films separately just in order to get audio description.
Mary


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Re: Reading Sender Email Address

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

Well, I mean, VOICEOVER Space will open the Context menu in this case, that’s 
what I meant.

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I've found that you don't need to use the Contextual menu command, you can 
> simply VO-space on the name of the sender and the menu will appear.  Dave, if 
> there's no proper eMail address, then I'd assume that it's a spoof or cloak 
> or whatever other expression we like to use to say that it's simply worth a 
> delete key action.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 09:10, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
> 
> Devon,
> Wow. It took several attempts to get it down. Quite a whonky method to get 
> something simple, but it does work. Trouble I’m finding now is that the 
> message I was inspecting as suspicious shows as a blank mail address. Wonder 
> if it is cloaked?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

I got a reply from Apple accessibility about the adjustable index, but it 
didn’t make any sense. They said that indexes have an alphabet on the left-hand 
side. Well, I know that. Except this one doesn’t seem too, or at least I can’t 
find it. Then they said something confusing about an adjustable index, and said 
I could make a screenshot. Why the heck would I want to make a screenshot? 
Anyway, maybe I will end up calling them and seeing if somebody can log into my 
phone and show me how to actually use this thing. The response was certainly 
not useful, although I’m sure they meant well.
Mary


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> On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:25 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> To my knowledge, nothing has changed.  I set the Play last shortcut to the 
> station I listen to most, and then just tune into the others the 
> old-fashioned way.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> So far as I am aware, Tune in  just has the one shortcut, which is play last 
>> station. So if that’s the only station you want, you’re good. But if you 
>> like other stations and would like shortcut, I don’t think you can do that 
>> in tune in I looked recently and couldn’t find anything but that one 
>> shortcut. Has something changed? Was I looking in the wrong place?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> It seems more finicky with TuneIn.  I have a station from Ann Arbor 
>>> Michigan where we used to live, that I access on TuneIn.  The only way I 
>>> could get it to play with Siri was to set up a shortcut for the TuneIn app.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
 them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
 doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could 
 find those things in This broadcast radio tab. That way I would knoThis 
 broadcast radio tab. That way I would know if they’re actually there for 
 Siri, and how they are listed. But I’m just not having any luck. The other 
 stuff, stuff in the US, I don’t care. I know the stations I want and 
 they’re call letters. Either work or they don’t.
  Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons 
 of them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it 
 usually doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I 
 could find those things in Siri
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
> message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able 
> to play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  
> Hope it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message 
> follows.  
> Cheers,
> Donna
> If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  
> for example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you 
> can ask for something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 
> WEPN from there ..
> 
> If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea 
> of how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are 
> quite similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You 
> also can add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some 
> stations are on both .. hope this helps ..
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries 
>> other than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location 
>> specific to my little area here. None of the stations I saw were in 
>> Oregon, much less in Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. 
>> I think it might’ve been world service, can’t remember.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>>> 
 On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should 
 have to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't 
 say that you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that 
 you have to be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 

Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

To my knowledge, nothing has changed.  I set the Play last shortcut to the 
station I listen to most, and then just tune into the others the old-fashioned 
way.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> So far as I am aware, Tune in  just has the one shortcut, which is play last 
> station. So if that’s the only station you want, you’re good. But if you like 
> other stations and would like shortcut, I don’t think you can do that in tune 
> in I looked recently and couldn’t find anything but that one shortcut. Has 
> something changed? Was I looking in the wrong place?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> It seems more finicky with TuneIn.  I have a station from Ann Arbor Michigan 
>> where we used to live, that I access on TuneIn.  The only way I could get it 
>> to play with Siri was to set up a shortcut for the TuneIn app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
>>> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
>>> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
>>> those things in This broadcast radio tab. That way I would knoThis 
>>> broadcast radio tab. That way I would know if they’re actually there for 
>>> Siri, and how they are listed. But I’m just not having any luck. The other 
>>> stuff, stuff in the US, I don’t care. I know the stations I want and 
>>> they’re call letters. Either work or they don’t.
>>>  Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
>>> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
>>> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
>>> those things in Siri
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
 message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able 
 to play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  
 Hope it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message 
 follows.  
 Cheers,
 Donna
 If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  for 
 example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you can 
 ask for something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 WEPN 
 from there ..
 
 If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea 
 of how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite 
 similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also 
 can add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some 
 stations are on both .. hope this helps ..
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries 
> other than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location 
> specific to my little area here. None of the stations I saw were in 
> Oregon, much less in Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I 
> think it might’ve been world service, can’t remember.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>> 
>>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should 
>>> have to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't 
>>> say that you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that 
>>> you have to be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? 
 If you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio 
 stuff, but it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of 
 Apple Music at all. They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if 
 anything. It’s that new deal they have with I heart in tune in and 
 radio.com . So I don’t get it.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 

Re: Reading Sender Email Address

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I've found that you don't need to use the Contextual menu command, you can 
simply VO-space on the name of the sender and the menu will appear.  Dave, if 
there's no proper eMail address, then I'd assume that it's a spoof or cloak or 
whatever other expression we like to use to say that it's simply worth a delete 
key action.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 2, 2019, at 09:10, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Devon,
Wow. It took several attempts to get it down. Quite a whonky method to get 
something simple, but it does work. Trouble I’m finding now is that the message 
I was inspecting as suspicious shows as a blank mail address. Wonder if it is 
cloaked?

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian





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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

Hi Donna,
So far as I am aware, Tune in  just has the one shortcut, which is play last 
station. So if that’s the only station you want, you’re good. But if you like 
other stations and would like shortcut, I don’t think you can do that in tune 
in I looked recently and couldn’t find anything but that one shortcut. Has 
something changed? Was I looking in the wrong place?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> It seems more finicky with TuneIn.  I have a station from Ann Arbor Michigan 
> where we used to live, that I access on TuneIn.  The only way I could get it 
> to play with Siri was to set up a shortcut for the TuneIn app.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
>> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
>> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
>> those things in This broadcast radio tab. That way I would knoThis broadcast 
>> radio tab. That way I would know if they’re actually there for Siri, and how 
>> they are listed. But I’m just not having any luck. The other stuff, stuff in 
>> the US, I don’t care. I know the stations I want and they’re call letters. 
>> Either work or they don’t.
>>  Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
>> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
>> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
>> those things in Siri
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
>>> message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able 
>>> to play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  
>>> Hope it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message follows. 
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  for 
>>> example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you can ask 
>>> for something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 WEPN from 
>>> there ..
>>> 
>>> If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea of 
>>> how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite 
>>> similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also 
>>> can add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some 
>>> stations are on both .. hope this helps ..
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries 
 other than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location 
 specific to my little area here. None of the stations I saw were in 
 Oregon, much less in Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I 
 think it might’ve been world service, can’t remember.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
> 
>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should 
>> have to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say 
>> that you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you 
>> have to be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? 
>>> If you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio 
>>> stuff, but it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of 
>>> Apple Music at all. They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if 
>>> anything. It’s that new deal they have with I heart in tune in and 
>>> radio.com. So I don’t get it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in 
 my music app that says Broadcast radio.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the 
> screen. It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio 
> basically playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play 
> with it 

Re: Reading Sender Email Address

[Dave Carlson]

Devon,
Wow. It took several attempts to get it down. Quite a whonky method to get 
something simple, but it does work. Trouble I’m finding now is that the message 
I was inspecting as suspicious shows as a blank mail address. Wonder if it is 
cloaked?

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Re: Possible text

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It's just VO taking a guess at an unlabelled item.  VO is analyzing the screen, 
when it finds something that is unlabelled, it will check close by to see if 
the developer is expecting the user to know what something is by what's in the 
vicinity and give a guess.  It's saying "Possible" because it's just an 
educated guess.  As Devin mentioned, turn it off in your Verbosity settings.

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On Oct 2, 2019, at 07:36, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

You can turn this off in verbosity settings.

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the 
> most inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice 
> stream writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from 
> and is there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text 
> followed by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in 
> not always predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it.
> 
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Re: Reading Sender Email Address

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

What I just did is, VOICEOVER+left arrow to the message header, interact with 
that, then the text, VOICEOVER+Right arrow to your name, VOICEOVER+Space to 
open the … What does Apple call it? The context men, VOICEOVER+Down arrow and 
it’ll say “Check mark,” then the email address.

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> There are times when I want to know the actual email address of a sender. In 
> particular, when I have a mail message that seems fishy. How do I get to the 
> FROM: field so that I can read the underlying address of the sender? Can’t 
> seem to get at it in the message headers section. Perhaps I need to adjust a 
> setting?
> 
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Re: Possible text

[Dave Carlson]

Wondered about that, as well. I believe it was even happening in iOS 12. Seems 
to appear on things like buttons or sliders, rather than edit fields. I wonder 
if this is related to the Key Labels settings? Can’t recall where I last saw 
that setting...

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Re: Possible text

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

You can turn this off in verbosity settings.

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the 
> most inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice 
> stream writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from 
> and is there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text 
> followed by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in 
> not always predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Possible text

[Phil Halton]

After upgrading to 13.1, voiceover is always saying "possible text "at the most 
inconvenient times. When I am reading in voice dream reader or voice stream 
writer for example. What is this "possible text "message coming from and is 
there anything I can do to prevent it? It seems to say possible text followed 
by a few letters or even a word or two. And it is someone random in not always 
predictable when it will happen. Any help greatly appreciate it.

Sent from my IPhone

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Reading Sender Email Address

[Dave Carlson]

There are times when I want to know the actual email address of a sender. In 
particular, when I have a mail message that seems fishy. How do I get to the 
FROM: field so that I can read the underlying address of the sender? Can’t seem 
to get at it in the message headers section. Perhaps I need to adjust a setting?

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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mary,

It seems more finicky with TuneIn.  I have a station from Ann Arbor Michigan 
where we used to live, that I access on TuneIn.  The only way I could get it to 
play with Siri was to set up a shortcut for the TuneIn app.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
> those things in This broadcast radio tab. That way I would knoThis broadcast 
> radio tab. That way I would know if they’re actually there for Siri, and how 
> they are listed. But I’m just not having any luck. The other stuff, stuff in 
> the US, I don’t care. I know the stations I want and they’re call letters. 
> Either work or they don’t.
>  Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
> them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
> doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
> those things in Siri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
>> message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able to 
>> play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  Hope 
>> it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message follows.  
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  for 
>> example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you can ask 
>> for something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 WEPN from 
>> there ..
>> 
>> If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea of 
>> how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite 
>> similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also can 
>> add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some stations 
>> are on both .. hope this helps ..
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries other 
>>> than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location specific to 
>>> my little area here. None of the stations I saw were in Oregon, much less 
>>> in Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I think it might’ve 
>>> been world service, can’t remember.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I’m wondering if it is location specific?
 
> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should 
> have to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say 
> that you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you 
> have to be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If 
>> you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, 
>> but it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music 
>> at all. They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s 
>> that new deal they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com 
>> . So I don’t get it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in 
>>> my music app that says Broadcast radio.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning >>> > wrote:
 
 Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the 
 screen. It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio 
 basically playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play 
 with it now.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and 
> I'm not seeing it.  Running 13.2.

Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[João de Sousa e Silva]

Think it is up to the “language region”, under General, in the WatchApp, 
in iOS. I may have to wait for the download of the voice, that happens 
just when the Watch is charging. Then, you may need to set it up, change 
it, and set It up again. I managed to do it, but I am really not sure 
about the whole process. But, definitely possible. Good Luck!



Às 16:57 de 01/10/2019, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries escreveu:

I’ve never been able to get my watch to change to a different British voice. We 
are lumbered with one male voice no matter whether you use Siri female voice on 
your iPhone.
Harry


On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:50, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

Hi all,

Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6?

I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and I 
can’t find a way to change that.

Tia,
Jeff


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watch os update

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Folks,

Just wondered if anyone else had noticed an update to Watch OS 6 sometime over 
the passed 24 hours,

Os version now on my s4 watch is 6.0.1

I'm hoping it corrected the battery useage issues

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