Re: email addresses

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I don’t really need to display complex, or detailed, header information to get 
this info myself.  My header info is just set to default.

Regarding why my info remains hidden is a mystery to me.  I checked my setting 
for this group, and I don’t appear to have anything special or secure that I 
can tell.  Now, this is Google and it’s interface is awkwardly accessible, so I 
may be missing something.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 9:10 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> Tim's right, but man oh man, you have to go digging with a long shovel to 
> find it. It's the line in the rather lengthy header section beginning with 
> "Original-address.
> 
> 
> 
> And this brings up another interesting point. Email lists that show addresses 
> of posters in the form "Steve Matzura via MacVisionaries" etc. are doing 
> their subscribers a disservice, or something's wrong with somebody's DKIM or 
> DMARC or something, because email address obfuscation isn't supposed to 
> succumb to simple header examination. It's just supposed to scrub those 
> addresses. What's wrong with this picture I wonder?
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2021 7:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> Well, two things to comment on.  First, I used this method just now in Big 
>> Sur and I can do exactly as I outlined and acquire your eMail address, copy 
>> it, add you to VIP’s amongst other actions.  Second, I did check this prior 
>> to sending the note to the list and I was able to get both Steve and 
>> Herbie’s addresses that were the original posters in that thread.
>> 
>> I do recall others having difficulties with this action, and I’m not sure 
>> why it’s happening to them, or you for that matter if you’re experiencing 
>> the same results.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim, When using Apple’s Mail app on Big Sur, your email address can not be 
>>> obtained by the method you describe.
>>> Your email address remains hidden.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 14:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Off topic to the question, but eMail addresses are not necessarily hidden.
>>> 
>>> • open a message by pressing return on it.
>>> • navigate around the window until you hear “Message Headers” and interact 
>>> with it.
>>> • navigate within the Message Header area and you should hear a section 
>>> that announces the sender’s name, the subject and the recipient, as in 
>>> MacVisionaries.  Interact with this.
>>> • navigate to the sender’s name and VO-space on it.
>>> 
>>> A menu should pop up with items such as Copy Address and the sender’s 
>>> actual address.  There are still some situations where specific mail 
>>> clients keep this hidden, but I am able to determine most sender’s eMail 
>>> address using this method.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Steve Matzura >>> > wrote:
 
 Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
 broadcast?
 
 
 On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
> What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am 
> aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The 
> latter seems to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe 
> you have other concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of 
> these, but both are holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for 
> broadcasting and the occasional editing of documents.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines > > wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
>> MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last 
>> year because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was 
>> never really confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store 
>> is now fully Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of 
>> trade it in value, would these two computers have? I know that running 
>> Windows as a Guest operating System would not be possible. This 
>> beginning two not be a issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems 
>> are increasingly being hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows 
>> completely. Any thoughts?

Re: Latest Big Sur update issues

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m not sure what happened to cause the “Donna’s MacBook Air” folder to be 
created, but the Relocated Items is a common item after updates.  If you 
VO-space on the Relocated Items item, you’ll be taken to a location where you 
can learn about the reason for that alias being placed on your Desktop.  It has 
something to do with files being removed and relocated due to incompatibilities 
with that update.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> During my update to the most recent version of Big Sur I lost VO access. When 
> my Mac “came to”, I had a folder on my desktop called Donna’s MacBook Air, 
> that basically contained the stuff from my desktop, pluss a relocated items 
> folder. I have no idea why this folder was created, but I’m inclined to 
> delete it. Is there any reason I shouldn’t? Any other pitfalls I should no 
> about regarding this upgrade?
> 
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
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Re: email addresses

[Steve Matzura]

Tim's right, but man oh man, you have to go digging with a long shovel 
to find it. It's the line in the rather lengthy header section beginning 
with "Original-address.



And this brings up another interesting point. Email lists that show 
addresses of posters in the form "Steve Matzura via MacVisionaries" etc. 
are doing their subscribers a disservice, or something's wrong with 
somebody's DKIM or DMARC or something, because email address obfuscation 
isn't supposed to succumb to simple header examination. It's just 
supposed to scrub those addresses. What's wrong with this picture I wonder?



On 6/2/2021 7:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi Brad,

Well, two things to comment on.  First, I used this method just now in 
Big Sur and I can do exactly as I outlined and acquire your eMail 
address, copy it, add you to VIP’s amongst other actions.  Second, I 
did check this prior to sending the note to the list and I was able to 
get both Steve and Herbie’s addresses that were the original posters 
in that thread.


I do recall others having difficulties with this action, and I’m not 
sure why it’s happening to them, or you for that matter if you’re 
experiencing the same results.


Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 2, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Brad Snyder > wrote:


Tim, When using Apple’s Mail app on Big Sur, your email address can 
not be obtained by the method you describe.

Your email address remains hidden.

- Brad -


On Jun 2, 2021, at 14:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,

Off topic to the question, but eMail addresses are not necessarily 
hidden.


• open a message by pressing return on it.
• navigate around the window until you hear “Message Headers” and 
interact with it.
• navigate within the Message Header area and you should hear a 
section that announces the sender’s name, the subject and the 
recipient, as in MacVisionaries.  Interact with this.

• navigate to the sender’s name and VO-space on it.

A menu should pop up with items such as Copy Address and the sender’s 
actual address.  There are still some situations where specific mail 
clients keep this hidden, but I am able to determine most sender’s 
eMail address using this method.


Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Steve Matzura > wrote:


Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do 
you broadcast?



On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that 
I am aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s 
support. The latter seems to be something you are willing to move 
away from, but maybe you have other concerns. Personally, I would 
love to play with one of these, but both are holdups for me since I 
still rely on Window’s for broadcasting and the occasional editing 
of documents.



On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> 
wrote:


Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 
2015 MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was 
retired last year because it was thought that the battery is 
swelling. But it was never really confirmed because of the 
pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now fully Open. Hi I have 
been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in value, would 
these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a Guest 
operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be 
a issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly 
being hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. 
Any thoughts?


Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. 
I hope that this message is readable?


Sincerely Maurice  Mines.




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Latest Big Sur update issues

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

During my update to the most recent version of Big Sur I lost VO access. When 
my Mac “came to”, I had a folder on my desktop called Donna’s MacBook Air, that 
basically contained the stuff from my desktop, pluss a relocated items folder. 
I have no idea why this folder was created, but I’m inclined to delete it. Is 
there any reason I shouldn’t? Any other pitfalls I should no about regarding 
this upgrade?

TIA,
Donna

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Re: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

[Herbie Allen]

http://986themix.com 


> On Jun 2, 2021, at 14:23, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
> broadcast?
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>> What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am 
>> aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The 
>> latter seems to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe 
>> you have other concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of these, 
>> but both are holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for broadcasting 
>> and the occasional editing of documents.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
>>> MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year 
>>> because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never 
>>> really confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now 
>>> fully Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in 
>>> value, would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a 
>>> Guest operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a 
>>> issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being 
>>> hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope 
>>> that this message is readable?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
>> 
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Re: email addresses

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, my email address is obtainable as are others.  Yours is not for some 
reason.

- Brad -


On Jun 2, 2021, at 18:11, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

Well, two things to comment on.  First, I used this method just now in Big Sur 
and I can do exactly as I outlined and acquire your eMail address, copy it, add 
you to VIP’s amongst other actions.  Second, I did check this prior to sending 
the note to the list and I was able to get both Steve and Herbie’s addresses 
that were the original posters in that thread.

I do recall others having difficulties with this action, and I’m not sure why 
it’s happening to them, or you for that matter if you’re experiencing the same 
results.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Tim, When using Apple’s Mail app on Big Sur, your email address can not be 
> obtained by the method you describe.
> Your email address remains hidden.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2021, at 14:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Off topic to the question, but eMail addresses are not necessarily hidden.
> 
> • open a message by pressing return on it.
> • navigate around the window until you hear “Message Headers” and interact 
> with it.
> • navigate within the Message Header area and you should hear a section that 
> announces the sender’s name, the subject and the recipient, as in 
> MacVisionaries.  Interact with this.
> • navigate to the sender’s name and VO-space on it.
> 
> A menu should pop up with items such as Copy Address and the sender’s actual 
> address.  There are still some situations where specific mail clients keep 
> this hidden, but I am able to determine most sender’s eMail address using 
> this method.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Steve Matzura > > wrote:
>> 
>> Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
>> broadcast?
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>>> What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am 
>>> aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The 
>>> latter seems to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe 
>>> you have other concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of 
>>> these, but both are holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for 
>>> broadcasting and the occasional editing of documents.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines >>> > wrote:
 
 Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
 MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last 
 year because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never 
 really confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now 
 fully Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in 
 value, would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a 
 Guest operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a 
 issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being 
 hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
 
 Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope 
 that this message is readable?
 
 Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: email addresses

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Brad,

Well, two things to comment on.  First, I used this method just now in Big Sur 
and I can do exactly as I outlined and acquire your eMail address, copy it, add 
you to VIP’s amongst other actions.  Second, I did check this prior to sending 
the note to the list and I was able to get both Steve and Herbie’s addresses 
that were the original posters in that thread.

I do recall others having difficulties with this action, and I’m not sure why 
it’s happening to them, or you for that matter if you’re experiencing the same 
results.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Tim, When using Apple’s Mail app on Big Sur, your email address can not be 
> obtained by the method you describe.
> Your email address remains hidden.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2021, at 14:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Off topic to the question, but eMail addresses are not necessarily hidden.
> 
> • open a message by pressing return on it.
> • navigate around the window until you hear “Message Headers” and interact 
> with it.
> • navigate within the Message Header area and you should hear a section that 
> announces the sender’s name, the subject and the recipient, as in 
> MacVisionaries.  Interact with this.
> • navigate to the sender’s name and VO-space on it.
> 
> A menu should pop up with items such as Copy Address and the sender’s actual 
> address.  There are still some situations where specific mail clients keep 
> this hidden, but I am able to determine most sender’s eMail address using 
> this method.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Steve Matzura > > wrote:
>> 
>> Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
>> broadcast?
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>>> What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am 
>>> aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The 
>>> latter seems to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe 
>>> you have other concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of 
>>> these, but both are holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for 
>>> broadcasting and the occasional editing of documents.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines >>> > wrote:
 
 Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
 MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last 
 year because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never 
 really confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now 
 fully Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in 
 value, would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a 
 Guest operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a 
 issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being 
 hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
 
 Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope 
 that this message is readable?
 
 Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
>>> 
>> 
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email addresses

[Brad Snyder]

Tim, When using Apple’s Mail app on Big Sur, your email address can not be 
obtained by the method you describe.
Your email address remains hidden.

- Brad -


On Jun 2, 2021, at 14:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Off topic to the question, but eMail addresses are not necessarily hidden.

• open a message by pressing return on it.
• navigate around the window until you hear “Message Headers” and interact with 
it.
• navigate within the Message Header area and you should hear a section that 
announces the sender’s name, the subject and the recipient, as in 
MacVisionaries.  Interact with this.
• navigate to the sender’s name and VO-space on it.

A menu should pop up with items such as Copy Address and the sender’s actual 
address.  There are still some situations where specific mail clients keep this 
hidden, but I am able to determine most sender’s eMail address using this 
method.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Steve Matzura  > wrote:
> 
> Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
> broadcast?
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>> What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am 
>> aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The 
>> latter seems to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe 
>> you have other concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of these, 
>> but both are holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for broadcasting 
>> and the occasional editing of documents.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
>>> MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year 
>>> because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never 
>>> really confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now 
>>> fully Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in 
>>> value, would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a 
>>> Guest operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a 
>>> issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being 
>>> hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope 
>>> that this message is readable?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
>> 
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Re: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

[maurice mines]

Hi just  fore the record , the first Mac  is  a 2020 Intel Mac  book  Pro. 

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:30 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> First off, If you have  amything from 2015 you should probably upgrade to 
> something with better hardwork any. 
> 
> Also, I have a windows machine which I use from time to time, but find myself 
> running either my mac mini or my Linux machine more as I use windows ina vm 
> on my mac for testing perpuses.  
> 
> Good luck with your disition.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of maurice mines
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 12:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?
> 
> Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
> MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year 
> because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never really 
> confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now fully 
> Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in value, 
> would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a Guest 
> operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a issue. 
> The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being hacked. I 
> thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
> 
> Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope that 
> this message is readable?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
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RE: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Hi,

First off, If you have  amything from 2015 you should probably upgrade to 
something with better hardwork any. 

Also, I have a windows machine which I use from time to time, but find myself 
running either my mac mini or my Linux machine more as I use windows ina vm on 
my mac for testing perpuses.  

Good luck with your disition.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of maurice mines
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 12:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 MacBook 
Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year because it 
was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never really confirmed 
because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now fully Open. Hi I have 
been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in value, would these two 
computers have? I know that running Windows as a Guest operating System would 
not be possible. This beginning two not be a issue. The reason why is Windows 
based Systems are increasingly being hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon 
Windows completely. Any thoughts?

Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope that 
this message is readable?

Sincerely Maurice  Mines.

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Re: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Off topic to the question, but eMail addresses are not necessarily hidden.

• open a message by pressing return on it.
• navigate around the window until you hear “Message Headers” and interact with 
it.
• navigate within the Message Header area and you should hear a section that 
announces the sender’s name, the subject and the recipient, as in 
MacVisionaries.  Interact with this.
• navigate to the sender’s name and VO-space on it.

A menu should pop up with items such as Copy Address and the sender’s actual 
address.  There are still some situations where specific mail clients keep this 
hidden, but I am able to determine most sender’s eMail address using this 
method.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
> broadcast?
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>> What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am 
>> aware of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The 
>> latter seems to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe 
>> you have other concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of these, 
>> but both are holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for broadcasting 
>> and the occasional editing of documents.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
>>> MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year 
>>> because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never 
>>> really confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now 
>>> fully Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in 
>>> value, would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a 
>>> Guest operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a 
>>> issue. The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being 
>>> hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope 
>>> that this message is readable?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
>> 
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Re: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

[Steve Matzura]

Since email addresses are hidden, so I can't ask privately, where do you 
broadcast?



On 6/2/2021 2:59 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:

What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am aware 
of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The latter seems 
to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe you have other 
concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of these, but both are 
holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for broadcasting and the 
occasional editing of documents.



On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines  wrote:

Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 MacBook 
Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year because it 
was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never really confirmed 
because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now fully Open. Hi I have 
been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in value, would these two 
computers have? I know that running Windows as a Guest operating System would 
not be possible. This beginning two not be a issue. The reason why is Windows 
based Systems are increasingly being hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon 
Windows completely. Any thoughts?

Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope that 
this message is readable?

Sincerely Maurice  Mines.




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Re: Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

[Herbie Allen]

What reasons do you have for hesitating? Th=e two big turnoffs that I am aware 
of with these new Macs is lack of money and Window’s support. The latter seems 
to be something you are willing to move away from, but maybe you have other 
concerns. Personally, I would love to play with one of these, but both are 
holdups for me since I still rely on Window’s for broadcasting and the 
occasional editing of documents.


> On Jun 2, 2021, at 11:41, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 
> MacBook Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year 
> because it was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never really 
> confirmed because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now fully 
> Open. Hi I have been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in value, 
> would these two computers have? I know that running Windows as a Guest 
> operating System would not be possible. This beginning two not be a issue. 
> The reason why is Windows based Systems are increasingly being hacked. I 
> thank it is Time two abandon Windows completely. Any thoughts?
> 
> Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope that 
> this message is readable?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice  Mines.
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Should I trade in my MacBook Pro Intel fore a M1 Mac?

[maurice mines]

Good morning everyone my subject line says it all. I also have hey 2015 MacBook 
Pro that I just wanted to get out of here. It was retired last year because it 
was thought that the battery is swelling. But it was never really confirmed 
because of the pandemic. Now that the Apple Store is now fully Open. Hi I have 
been discussing with Apple what kind of trade it in value, would these two 
computers have? I know that running Windows as a Guest operating System would 
not be possible. This beginning two not be a issue. The reason why is Windows 
based Systems are increasingly being hacked. I thank it is Time two abandon 
Windows completely. Any thoughts?

Please note that I I am using apples built-in dictation software. I hope that 
this message is readable?

Sincerely Maurice  Mines.

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Re: Retroarch question.

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

Send me your config file privately, and I’ll look at that. That’s what controls 
Retroarch, so I only need that.
Devin Prater
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Https://devinprater.github.io

> On Jun 1, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, even after copying/pasting that same code into the config 
> file, this still appears to be doing nothing.  Would you be willing to do a 
> team viewer session with me to make sure I’ve done this correctly?
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2021, at 11:10 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, check the quotes. It should be more like:
>> 
>>> ai_service_url = "http://ztranslat.net/service?api_key=1I8Y3CMP3D 
>>> "
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com 
>> Https://devinprater.github.io 
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Jessica Moss >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have no idea if this was how this was supposed to look, and I 
>>> unfortunately don’t have the original string anymore, but it looked 
>>> something like http://localhost , with a string of 
>>> numbers after it.  That was the only url in the config file I found, and I 
>>> tried to override it with the following:
>>> 
>>> ai_service_url = " 
>>> 
>>> 1I8Y3CMP3D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The The string of numbers at the end being my activation key; however, I 
>>> have no idea if that’s how it’s supposed to look, and I have no idea if 
>>> I’ve messed something up, and if I have, how to go back and fix it.
>>> 
 On Jun 1, 2021, at 10:39 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Ah, it’s been a while since I’ve done this. Show me the URL somewhere and 
 I’ll see if it matches mine.
 Devin Prater
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 Https://devinprater.github.io 
 
> On May 31, 2021, at 8:48 AM, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I’m confused, what is?  If we’re talking about my activation key, I 
> have that copied and pasted already, I’m just not sure if I’ve pasted the 
> url correctly, so that’s something I need some help with.
>   Will I find that there as well?  I’ve read the example in the users 
> guide repeatedly and tried to match that, but have apparently done 
> something wrong.
> 
>> On May 31, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> It’s in your account section.
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com 
>> Https://devinprater.github.io 
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Jessica Moss >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I’ve just signed up with them, but can you please refresh my memory 
>>> on where I would go to find the API key to paste so I’m not having to 
>>> back in and out of multiple web pages?  I’m not seeing it on the main 
>>> page after verifying my e-mail address, and that page has several 
>>> unlabeled Iframes that apparently lead to YouTube videos.
>>> 
 On May 30, 2021, at 2:46 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Did you sign up with Z-translate, and paste the API key into the 
 Retroarch Config file? You'll have to do that, which is talked about 
 in the user guide, in order for Retroarch to even do OCR. 
 Alternatively, you can use VOcr to OCR the screen of any emulator.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 29, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I had no idea this existed until I found it on 
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/retroarch-182-making-games-more-accessible-blind-people
>  
> 
> 
> However, even after reading the user guide, enabling accessibility 
> mode, downloading several emulators within the app and testing them 
> with both narrator mode and speech mode on several SNES games I know 
> have readouts, it’s not reading a thing.
>   Am I missing a step, or is this something that’s just hit or miss, 
> and seems to be more of a miss with the games I’m trying to play?
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Re: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Ian,

Is there any particular reason you want to use Google Assistant? I have Sonos 
speakers throughout the house, and  use Siri to play my Apple Music library. It 
can sometimes hiccup, but most of the time it works pretty well.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 7:35 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Its possible this isn’t supported by Sonos and Google. Third party speakers 
> work differently. I know Alexa and Apple Music work but Sonos is fighting 
> with Google because Google stole some patons.
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
>> music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
>> ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Ian
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Re: OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

[joseph hodge]

Its possible this isn’t supported by Sonos and Google. Third party speakers 
work differently. I know Alexa and Apple Music work but Sonos is fighting with 
Google because Google stole some patons.

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
> music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
> ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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OT Sonos, google assistant and apple music

[Ian Harrison]

Hi everyone,

I can’t get the google assistant on my Sonos player to connect to my apple 
music library, yet it will do this from my little google nest speaker. Any 
ideas?

Thanks in advance
Ian

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RE: Battery Question

[Les Kriegler]

Thanks. I’ve got it!

Best,

 

Les

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 10:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Question

 

>From the doc, hit S and Y to get to System Preferences and hit enter. From 
>there, look for Battery, hit enter again, then VO right and you will find 
>everything.

If you just want to see the charge level, hit VO MM and VO Right to the battery.

 





On Jun 1, 2021, at 20:44, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi All,

I went through the initial setup and am in the process of obtaining updates, 
there was a Big Sur update and apparently apps from the App Store. I am 
charging my unit and wonder how one gets to information about the battery, 
available charge in percentage, how many hours of battery do I have, etc. All 
help appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

 

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