Re: Fwd: Harry Bell's Voice Control Tutorial

[Karen Lewellen]

Jonathan,
You are a prince thank you!
Kare



On Sat, 11 Jun 2022, Jonathan Cohn wrote:


Forwarding from VI Phone list as there were recent questions. I would expect 
that out of the box Voice Control will not execute VoiceOver commands but if 
there is a command that you need to voice, it can probably be done with 
automator's do AppleScript command.

Also, keyboard maestro might be useful to simplify keystrokes.
In both cases, you would need to do a AppleScript that is essentially:
tell application "VoiceOver"
tell commander to perform command "Some VoiceOver command"
end tell
Where you could replace some command with "Application Chooser" for example.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




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From: "Richard Turner" 
Subject: Harry Bell's Voice Control Tutorial
Date: May 31, 2022 at 14:05:10 EDT
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Greetings,

Harry Bell has created a tutorial to help those wishing to use the Voice 
Control feature of Apple devices with VoiceOver.
He gave me permission to put it on my web site.
You will find it in two formats.  Microsoft Word and as its own html page.
It is in the first section of my web site under iOS and keyboard commands.  
Maybe I will add another section, but it works there for now.
Link is in my signature.


Richard

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 


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an absolutely silly, but for me important mac question?

[Karen Lewellen]

In my own defense because accessing broadcast content tends to be 
important work wise, when living in my own home, I have cable.

At the moment though I am in a shared situation.
However, I need to access something, being broadcast via the web, at 
ctv.ca tomorrow night.

so...and here comes said silly question.
Is it simply a matter of firing up mystic the macbook pro, choosing a 
browser,  likely safari, but I will get Firefox if a wiser  choice, 
going to ctv.ca, and accessing the stream at showtime?

Thanks,
Kare

Re: Apple TV 4k and Apps

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Not really.  Deleting it, or waiting to see if the app has an update that fixes 
the problem is your best choices.  I’ve seen this happen where you need to 
delete, then re-install an app as it was somehow corrupted during the update 
process.

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> On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Yesterday I updated with he 15.1 release. Now I have one app that when I 
> open it, I hear 'in progress' and am then back on the home screen.
> 
>   Short of deleting the app, which would lose my settings there, is there a 
> way to fix this? The app does not show in the list of purchased apps. I did a 
> search and the app comes u with the Open button. Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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Apple TV 4k and Apps

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yesterday I updated with he 15.1 release. Now I have one app that 
when I open it, I hear 'in progress' and am then back on the home screen.


   Short of deleting the app, which would lose my settings there, is 
there a way to fix this? The app does not show in the list of purchased 
apps. I did a search and the app comes u with the Open button. Thanks.


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Re: Accessing notifications

[Karen Lewellen]

I admit to being really really happy that I knew vo+n to move focus to the 
notification!

I know ignore me, but still smiles.
karen



On Sat, 11 Jun 2022, Brad Snyder wrote:


Actually, if there is an on screen notification, you should be able to place 
focus on the notification by pressing VO + N, then use your Down Arrow key to 
select the desired notification.
Once selected, you can use the Actions Menu (VO + CMD + Spacebar) to select the 
desired action.
This is no different than what was done in big Sur.

- Brad -



On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

 Open Calendar, go to its preferences, interact with toolbar, select Alerts. 
You will find what you need there.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
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On 6/11/2022 3:06 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,
Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air and 
get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to make it go 
away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, and dismiss the 
notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on whatever app is 
highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with the calendar 
notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
Thanks,
Donna


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Re: Accessing notifications

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I had a bit of trouble with the correct command so just went 
straight to the app to put a stop to those alerts.


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On 6/11/2022 3:20 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Actually, if there is an on screen notification, you should be able to place 
focus on the notification by pressing VO + N, then use your Down Arrow key to 
select the desired notification.
Once selected, you can use the Actions Menu (VO + CMD + Spacebar) to select the 
desired action.
This is no different than what was done in big Sur.

- Brad -



On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Open Calendar, go to its preferences, interact with toolbar, select Alerts. 
You will find what you need there.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/11/2022 3:06 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,
Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air and 
get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to make it go 
away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, and dismiss the 
notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on whatever app is 
highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with the calendar 
notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
Thanks,
Donna




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Re: Accessing notifications

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Definitely.

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On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:23, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hey,

I think there’s an echo here Brad :).

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> On Jun 11, 2022, at 16:20, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Actually, if there is an on screen notification, you should be able to place 
> focus on the notification by pressing VO + N, then use your Down Arrow key to 
> select the desired notification.
> Once selected, you can use the Actions Menu (VO + CMD + Spacebar) to select 
> the desired action.
> This is no different than what was done in big Sur.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>  Open Calendar, go to its preferences, interact with toolbar, select Alerts. 
> You will find what you need there.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 6/11/2022 3:06 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air 
>> and get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to 
>> make it go away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, 
>> and dismiss the notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on 
>> whatever app is highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with 
>> the calendar notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Accessing notifications

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hey,

I think there’s an echo here Brad :).

Later…


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> On Jun 11, 2022, at 16:20, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Actually, if there is an on screen notification, you should be able to place 
> focus on the notification by pressing VO + N, then use your Down Arrow key to 
> select the desired notification.
> Once selected, you can use the Actions Menu (VO + CMD + Spacebar) to select 
> the desired action.
> This is no different than what was done in big Sur.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Open Calendar, go to its preferences, interact with toolbar, select Alerts. 
> You will find what you need there.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 6/11/2022 3:06 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air 
>> and get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to 
>> make it go away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, 
>> and dismiss the notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on 
>> whatever app is highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with 
>> the calendar notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: Accessing notifications

[Brad Snyder]

Actually, if there is an on screen notification, you should be able to place 
focus on the notification by pressing VO + N, then use your Down Arrow key to 
select the desired notification.
Once selected, you can use the Actions Menu (VO + CMD + Spacebar) to select the 
desired action.
This is no different than what was done in big Sur.

- Brad -



On Jun 11, 2022, at 17:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Open Calendar, go to its preferences, interact with toolbar, select Alerts. 
You will find what you need there.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 6/11/2022 3:06 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi all,
> Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air 
> and get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to make 
> it go away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, and 
> dismiss the notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on whatever 
> app is highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with the 
> calendar notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
> Thanks,
> Donna

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Re: Accessing notifications

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Press VO-n to bring focus to the notifications, down arrow once then press 
return.  This will bring focus to the specific notification that was being 
announced.  Now, you can press VO-cmd-space to be able to choose from the 
actions.  You should have things like “close”, “Press”, “Accept” or “Decline”, 
or “Show”.  I believe that “Press” will open Calendar and that event.  If you 
don’t particularly care at that point in time, choose “Close” then return.

Later…


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> On Jun 11, 2022, at 16:06, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air 
> and get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to make 
> it go away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, and 
> dismiss the notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on whatever 
> app is highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with the 
> calendar notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Accessing notifications

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Open Calendar, go to its preferences, interact with toolbar, select 
Alerts. You will find what you need there.


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On 6/11/2022 3:06 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air and 
get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to make it go 
away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, and dismiss the 
notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on whatever app is 
highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with the calendar 
notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
Thanks,
Donna



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Accessing notifications

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Ever since upgrading to Monterrey, when I open the lid on my M1 MacBook Air and 
get a calendar notification, I don’t seem to be able to access it to make it go 
away.  Under Big Sur, I used to be able to press VO-CMD-space, and dismiss the 
notification.  But now, if I do that, the focus is on whatever app is 
highlighted on my desktop, so I’m unable to do anything with the calendar 
notification.  Anyone know how I can dismiss these in Monterrey?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Macbook Pro 14" 2021

[Tibor Niesner]

Thanks for your answers.

Tibor

Odesláno z iPhonu

> 11. 6. 2022 v 1:10, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> 
> I bought one last year on the day of the announcement – M1 Pro with 10-core 
> CPU, 14-core GPU, 32GB RAM, 1TB storage.
> The performance is excellent. Recently, I was helping to test an open-source 
> software project. The software compiled on my 14-inch MacBook Pro in less 
> than half the time that it took to compile on my Lenovo ThinkPad P51 laptop, 
> which has an Intel Xeon CPU (4 cores) and 32GB of RAM as well as NVME storage.
>  
> I haven’t yet taken the MacBook Pro out of the apartment, or even away from 
> my desk. It’s holding the battery at 80% of charge capacity for preservation.
> I’ve also just bought a case for it, which hasn’t arrived yet.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Jürgen Fleger 
> Date: Thursday, 9June, 2022 at 17:03
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Macbook Pro 14" 2021
> 
> Hi,
> yes, I've got one. 16 GB of Ram, 2 TB SSD, M1 Pro. And I simply love it. It's 
> the most  gorgeous MacBook Ive ever owned. I didn't like my Macbook 13 with 
> Touch Bar and the 16 inch Model like this MacBook 14 inch. It's fast. The Mac 
> Safe is a bit to strong. I Unintentionally pulled it but it stayed in the 
> Macbook and slipped out of the power supply. Funny but true.
> All the best 
> Jürgen
> 
>  
> 
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> 
> > Am 09.06.2022 um 20:40 schrieb Tibor Niesner :
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > has anyone Macbook Pro 14“ 2021? 
> > How do you like it? 
> > What a configuration do you have?
> > How is it a MagSafe connector?
> > How is it a keyboard? Was there any problems with this?
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Tibor.
> > 
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Fwd: Harry Bell's Voice Control Tutorial

[Jonathan Cohn]

Forwarding from VI Phone list as there were recent questions. I would expect 
that out of the box Voice Control will not execute VoiceOver commands but if 
there is a command that you need to voice, it can probably be done with 
automator's do AppleScript command. 

Also, keyboard maestro might be useful to simplify keystrokes. 
In both cases, you would need to do a AppleScript that is essentially:
tell application "VoiceOver"
tell commander to perform command "Some VoiceOver command"
end tell 
Where you could replace some command with "Application Chooser" for example.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: "Richard Turner" 
> Subject: Harry Bell's Voice Control Tutorial
> Date: May 31, 2022 at 14:05:10 EDT
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> Greetings,
>  
> Harry Bell has created a tutorial to help those wishing to use the Voice 
> Control feature of Apple devices with VoiceOver.
> He gave me permission to put it on my web site.
> You will find it in two formats.  Microsoft Word and as its own html page.
> It is in the first section of my web site under iOS and keyboard commands.  
> Maybe I will add another section, but it works there for now.
> Link is in my signature.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 
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