The constant annoyance of Google

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

I upgraded to the latest OS on the weekend and since that time the notification 
for Google continues come up. It wants me to give my username and password for 
my Google account in the Internet accounts section of user settings. However, I 
do not have an account there. If I try to add one, I am told I must 
authenticate by logging into my account on the web. When I try to do that I am 
told I am already signed into my google account. I can not sign out no matter 
how often I try, it seems I am permanently signed in. I hope someone can tell 
me what to do. My brain will explode soon!

Kristeen

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Ventura and Amadeus Pro

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I need to upgrade to Ventura, but using Amadeus Pro is necessary for me. Does 
anyone know if problems between it and Ventura have been resolved?

Thanks.

Kristeen

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Uploading photos to iCloud

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If I have photos on my Mac that I want to upload to iCloud and be able to 
access them from any connected device, where should they be located?

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Re: OT: A bit of personal news

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Address is: kkh...@icloud.com

Thanks, and I’m glad the risks are minor.

Kristeen


> On Apr 5, 2022, at 12:22 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christine,
> 
> Thanks so much!  So far only one of the participants had a negative 
> consequence from the procedure, and apparently, it was just temporary.  So, 
> though there is risk, I feel pretty confident that it’s fairly low.
> 
> Send me your private email, and I’ll be happy to keep you updated.  My email 
> is doniado...@me.com <mailto:doniado...@me.com>.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:47 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow! I wish you the very, very best and helping science move forward is 
>> awesome, if it doesn’t drastically change your life in a negative way. I 
>> would very much like to know how this is going for you. I don’t have your 
>> direct address, but would like to be informed.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2022, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Warning, this is a little long.  I’ve debated whether or not to share this 
>>> with the list, but I’ve known many of you in this community for a long time 
>>> now, so I thought I would, since it could potentially be of interest to 
>>> others here who have my same visual condition.  If you don’t want to read, 
>>> feel free to hit the delete key. :)
>>> 
>>> Last fall, , National Public Radio did a story about a clinical trial that 
>>> was being conducted using a new gene editing technique called CRISPR to 
>>> treat Liber’s Congenital Amaurosis, which is the condition that caused my 
>>> blindness.  Being an inquisitive sort, I decided to try and find out more.  
>>> My cousin who works in genetics was able to track down the study, and I 
>>> subsequently volunteered to be a participant.
>>> 
>>> The whole story is long, but here’s a synopsis.  I went to Portland OR in 
>>> November, where they had to do a genetic panel to make sure I was a match 
>>> for the specific genetic mutation that they’re studying.  Shortly before 
>>> Christmas, I received the news that I am in fact a match, and that I had 
>>> been accepted for participation in the trial.  There followed a fair amount 
>>> of pre-surgery stuff, such as having a congenital cataract removed in order 
>>> to give the surgeon better access to my retina.  But all that is now done, 
>>> and I leave on Wednesday for Portland.  The procedure will be performed on 
>>> April 12.
>>> 
>>> Crispr is pretty amazing stuff.  It has a lot of promise in a wide variety 
>>> of applications that could make many people’s lives better.  My layperson’s 
>>> explanation of it is that they will turn a tiny bot armed with scissors 
>>> loose in my retina.  The bots’ job will be to cut out the malfunctioning 
>>> area of the gene and mend it, so that the gene starts to produce the 
>>> necessary proteins to send visual information to the brain.  Over time, 
>>> this is expected to produce a gradual improvement in my vision.  For a more 
>>> medically based explanation, you can check out this link: 
>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0493-4 
>>> <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0493-4>.
>>> 
>>> I know that we all have different feelings about the “cure.”  As for me 
>>> personally, I have never sought it out.  In fact, many who know me were 
>>> surprised that I volunteered for the trial—to some extent, including 
>>> myself. I do have some vision, and I do use the vision that I have, so I 
>>> wouldn’t say no to any improvement, should that be the outcome.  But my 
>>> primary motivation for volunteering was to help further the science, and 
>>> whatever my personal outcome, I’m excited to be a part of that.  So far, 
>>> none of the participants has had reason to go out and buy a new car, so, my 
>>> expectation is that, while I may see better, the overall picture of my life 
>>> won’t change that much.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Though I do experience moments when I wonder if I’m certifiably insane for 
>>> letting someone take a pair of pruning shears to my genes, I’m  optimistic 
>>> and excited at the prospect of leaving this legacy for others who have LCA.
>>> 
>>> If you’ve read all 

Re: OT: A bit of personal news

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Wow! I wish you the very, very best and helping science move forward is 
awesome, if it doesn’t drastically change your life in a negative way. I would 
very much like to know how this is going for you. I don’t have your direct 
address, but would like to be informed.

Kristeen


> On Apr 4, 2022, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Warning, this is a little long.  I’ve debated whether or not to share this 
> with the list, but I’ve known many of you in this community for a long time 
> now, so I thought I would, since it could potentially be of interest to 
> others here who have my same visual condition.  If you don’t want to read, 
> feel free to hit the delete key. :)
> 
> Last fall, , National Public Radio did a story about a clinical trial that 
> was being conducted using a new gene editing technique called CRISPR to treat 
> Liber’s Congenital Amaurosis, which is the condition that caused my 
> blindness.  Being an inquisitive sort, I decided to try and find out more.  
> My cousin who works in genetics was able to track down the study, and I 
> subsequently volunteered to be a participant.
> 
> The whole story is long, but here’s a synopsis.  I went to Portland OR in 
> November, where they had to do a genetic panel to make sure I was a match for 
> the specific genetic mutation that they’re studying.  Shortly before 
> Christmas, I received the news that I am in fact a match, and that I had been 
> accepted for participation in the trial.  There followed a fair amount of 
> pre-surgery stuff, such as having a congenital cataract removed in order to 
> give the surgeon better access to my retina.  But all that is now done, and I 
> leave on Wednesday for Portland.  The procedure will be performed on April 12.
> 
> Crispr is pretty amazing stuff.  It has a lot of promise in a wide variety of 
> applications that could make many people’s lives better.  My layperson’s 
> explanation of it is that they will turn a tiny bot armed with scissors loose 
> in my retina.  The bots’ job will be to cut out the malfunctioning area of 
> the gene and mend it, so that the gene starts to produce the necessary 
> proteins to send visual information to the brain.  Over time, this is 
> expected to produce a gradual improvement in my vision.  For a more medically 
> based explanation, you can check out this link: 
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0493-4 
> .
> 
> I know that we all have different feelings about the “cure.”  As for me 
> personally, I have never sought it out.  In fact, many who know me were 
> surprised that I volunteered for the trial—to some extent, including myself. 
> I do have some vision, and I do use the vision that I have, so I wouldn’t say 
> no to any improvement, should that be the outcome.  But my primary motivation 
> for volunteering was to help further the science, and whatever my personal 
> outcome, I’m excited to be a part of that.  So far, none of the participants 
> has had reason to go out and buy a new car, so, my expectation is that, while 
> I may see better, the overall picture of my life won’t change that much.
> 
> 
> Though I do experience moments when I wonder if I’m certifiably insane for 
> letting someone take a pair of pruning shears to my genes, I’m  optimistic 
> and excited at the prospect of leaving this legacy for others who have LCA.
> 
> If you’ve read all this, thanks for reading.  It is not currently my plan to 
> send updates to the list, because it is off-topic and will not be of interest 
> to everyone.  But if you want to be updated, let me know, and I can email you 
> privately.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Restoring a file from Time Machine

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The music app suddenly replaced its library with an old version, thus taking 
away a lot of work I’ve recently done. I am more than a bit angry. Is there a 
way to restoree a previous library from my backup that I know was closer to 
accurate? I have never had any luck getting the time machine restore process to 
be friendly. Can someone help?

Kristeen

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Re: Improving music app experience

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I also experience losing focus in the mail app. It does not happen with the 
frequency as in the music app, but it does occur. I am using the Apple Magic 
keyboard, so it has nothing to do with a trackpad. I am using a Mac mini with 
no mouse or any input method other than the external keyboard.

Kristeen


> On Feb 3, 2022, at 3:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’d normally think that it may possibly be my hand hitting the trackpad as 
> well, but the question is then, why does it only happen in Mail, but not when 
> I’m typing in TextEdit, Pages etc.  Again, it’s not all the time, just some 
> inconvenient times :).
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 13:19, Herbie Allen > <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have not experienced this issue either. I use an external keyboard. For 
>> that matter other than the music issues, I’ve not   experienced some of the 
>> others mentioned.
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 13:38, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t experience my cursor “jumping” when typing in macOS Monterey.
>>> Could it be that your hand is inadvertently touching the TouchPad when you 
>>> are typing? 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 13:03, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The thing that bugs me about Focus in Monterrey is how the cursor jumps 
>>> around when I’m typing.  I’m always having to edit my emails because the 
>>> cursor jumps to a different place in the message.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg >>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> The focus in general has gone worse.
>>>> I can be reading an email and all of a sudden be in safari.
>>>> Regarding the music app I don’t know.
>>>> I can navigate it just fine by interacting with the sidebar and the grid.
>>>> The worst  thing in the music app is the search field.
>>>> When I do a search I have to stop interacting a lot of times to get to the 
>>>> result.
>>>> And I can’t do another search without first closing the app and restart it.
>>>> But its just me who don’t know how to handle it.
>>>> Also VoiceOver is not made for braille users which just is not good.
>>>> /A
>>>> 
>>>>> 3 feb. 2022 kl. 17:48 skrev 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would give anything if someone had a way to make the focus better with 
>>>>> VO. It used to work so well. The OS before Monterey sort of broke it and 
>>>>> Monterey did nothing to fix it at all. Does anyone have a way they’ve 
>>>>> come up with to work around it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan >>>>> <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone have tips on making the music app experience better on the 
>>>>>> Mac? Frankly, I hate it! I find it a challenge to navigate. It often 
>>>>>> says not responding. Frequently voiceover seems to jump out of whatever 
>>>>>> focus I might be in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I appreciate any advice. I will even consider a different app to manage 
>>>>>> my music.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Traci
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Re: Improving music app experience

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I would give anything if someone had a way to make the focus better with VO. It 
used to work so well. The OS before Monterey sort of broke it and Monterey did 
nothing to fix it at all. Does anyone have a way they’ve come up with to work 
around it?

Kristeen


> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone have tips on making the music app experience better on the Mac? 
> Frankly, I hate it! I find it a challenge to navigate. It often says not 
> responding. Frequently voiceover seems to jump out of whatever focus I might 
> be in.
> 
> I appreciate any advice. I will even consider a different app to manage my 
> music.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: A couple of question after getting a new Mac Air

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In terms of a word processor, I’d like something that will allow me to save 
files in in .docx format. I’m also not interested in one of those 
subscription-based word processors where you pay for it by the month. I’m happy 
to pay for something that will meet my needs, but I’d prefer a one-time payment 
rather than paying by the month or year. Lastly, I’d rather not use a processor 
that requires an internet connection. I generally prefer to do my writing 
offline.

As far as that Google prompt goes, google mail is working without issue. I 
followed those instructions in system preferences, but once I get to internet 
accounts, it shows the account is logged in. It’s almost like that notification 
comes up without actually needing to, like it hasn’t cleared or something.

Thank you in advance for any insight you might have.

Kristeen

> On Jan 13, 2022, at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Concerning editors, a word count is something that can be easily added via a 
> script, so what other features are you looking for in a text editor? There 
> are several around from Emacs to nisus Pro <https://www.nisus.com/pro/>. 
> Also, if you look for something in the App Store it is harder to use than in 
> earlier MacOS systems, but tends to have quite a few things. . One could even 
> get Microsoft Word, but I find it more difficult than pages to work with.
> In terms of the Google   prompt, is  Google mail working? I would suggest 
> either logging out or force quitting System Preferences. What should happen 
> is:
> 1. You click on the Google account in System Preferences Internet Accounts.
> 2. A prompt comes up saying you need to enter the information in a Browser 
> window.
> 3. You click the OK, proceed or whatever the button is there.
> 4. Safari opens in a private browsing window and you enter your Google 
> credentials.
> 5. At this point the prompt to open a browser to enter the password should be 
> gone.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2022, at 20:16, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> After getting a new Mac Air and setting it up, my partner has a couple of 
>> minor issues.
>> First of all, what are people using as a simple text editor that has a few 
>> more features than Text Edit, such as being able to get a word count, but is 
>> not as complex as Pages? iText Express was her go-to editor, but it does not 
>> work with the new Air and/or OS.
>> 
>> Also, she can’t get rid of the Google login screen. The computer is logged 
>> into the Google account, but the request to log in with the username and 
>> password will not go away. Any thoughts would be appreciated. She did try 
>> going back into System Preferences and to Internet accounts and attempt to 
>> log back in, but it is not letting her do this.
>> 
>> Kristeen
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A couple of question after getting a new Mac Air

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After getting a new Mac Air and setting it up, my partner has a couple of minor 
issues.
First of all, what are people using as a simple text editor that has a few more 
features than Text Edit, such as being able to get a word count, but is not as 
complex as Pages? iText Express was her go-to editor, but it does not work with 
the new Air and/or OS.

Also, she can’t get rid of the Google login screen. The computer is logged into 
the Google account, but the request to log in with the username and password 
will not go away. Any thoughts would be appreciated. She did try going back 
into System Preerences and to Internet accounts and attempt to log back in, but 
it is not letting her do this.

Kristeen

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Re: Uploading to Overdrive

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Thank you for this.

Kristeen


> On Dec 18, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Hi Christine,
> 
> Try the following, and see if it helps:
> 
> 1.  Open the Overdrive application window.
> 2.  Open the folder in Finder that contains the items you wish to move via 
> drag and drop to Overdrive.
> 3.  Using VoiceOver navigation, select the item or items you wish to move 
> using drag and drop.
> 4.  Press VO + CMD + F5, to route the mouse pointer to the location of the 
> VoiceOver cursor, which should be on the last item selected.
> 5.  Press VO + CMD + Shift + Spacebar, to perform a mouse down on the 
> location of the VoiceOver cursor.
> 6.  Using VoiceOver navigation, navigate to the Overdrive application window, 
> and move to the area where you wish to drop the selected items.
> 7.  Once again, press VO + CMD + F5, to route the mouse pointer to the 
> location of the VoiceOver cursor.
> 8.  Press VO + CMD + Shift + Spacebar, to release the mouse down action 
> performed in step 5 above, which should drop the selected items in the 
> Overdrive application window.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2021, at 06:15, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Can someone tell me how to do this on the mac? I downloaded the app,  but it 
> doesn’t seem to be accessible. When I try drag and drop, I always get the 
> message: "failed to drop”. Cutting and pasting seems to have no affect.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: Uploading to Overdrive

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This was a mistake. I should have said Open drive. I’m very sorry. Does your 
response still apply?

Kristeen


> On Dec 18, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christine,
> 
> Try the following, and see if it helps:
> 
> 1.  Open the Overdrive application window.
> 2.  Open the folder in Finder that contains the items you wish to move via 
> drag and drop to Overdrive.
> 3.  Using VoiceOver navigation, select the item or items you wish to move 
> using drag and drop.
> 4.  Press VO + CMD + F5, to route the mouse pointer to the location of the 
> VoiceOver cursor, which should be on the last item selected.
> 5.  Press VO + CMD + Shift + Spacebar, to perform a mouse down on the 
> location of the VoiceOver cursor.
> 6.  Using VoiceOver navigation, navigate to the Overdrive application window, 
> and move to the area where you wish to drop the selected items.
> 7.  Once again, press VO + CMD + F5, to route the mouse pointer to the 
> location of the VoiceOver cursor.
> 8.  Press VO + CMD + Shift + Spacebar, to release the mouse down action 
> performed in step 5 above, which should drop the selected items in the 
> Overdrive application window.
> 
> HTH. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2021, at 06:15, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Can someone tell me how to do this on the mac? I downloaded the app,  but it 
> doesn’t seem to be accessible. When I try drag and drop, I always get the 
> message: "failed to drop”. Cutting and pasting seems to have no affect.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Uploading to Overdrive

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Can someone tell me how to do this on the mac? I downloaded the app,  but it 
doesn’t seem to be accessible. When I try drag and drop, I always get the 
message: "failed to drop”. Cutting and pasting seems to have no affect.

Thanks.

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Re: Problems with VoiceOver and Music app in Monterey

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I realized when I was writing the question, I was not specific. This was 
because I had tried all of the keystrokes and more. As it turns out, the only 
lists where this is problematic are playlists created by Apple. I don’t know 
why they are different, but the VO cursor focus and therefore the actions will 
not leave the first item. I have not found a way to make this happen. If you 
can reproduce that, perhaps you can tell me the best way to have the 
navigations set up for the Music app?

Kristeen


> On Dec 13, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Well, in looking at my Library I was not able to reproduce. That being said 
> you were not very specific about the commands you were using.
> 
> I turned off VO-tracking and used VO keys to move the VO cursor to The 
> Beatles in the artist list. I then pressed VO-shift-M  and several options 
> were presented to me including "Play the beatles."
> 
> Somethings to try:
> 1. press VO-F3 and VO-F4 to see if VO and Keyboard focus are in the same 
> place. You can also try VO-F6 to find out what is currently selected. VO-F5 
> tells you what is under the mouse.
> If VoiceOver cursor tracking is turned off and you use VO-F1 twice to switch 
> applications that VO is in you would hear something like:
> "Music has keyboard focus. The VoiceOver cursor is in Mail 7 running 
> applications current activity Mail" 
> when pressing VO-F1 once.
> 
>   
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2021, at 07:56, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> Does anyone else have problems with focus in the Music app? If I go into a 
>> playlist of any type, the focus stays with the first item, despite any 
>> command to change it. So even though I arrow down through the list and can 
>> play whatever song I am on, the focus is not there if I want to do anything 
>> with that specific item, such as add it to my library or download it etc.
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Problems with VoiceOver and Music app in Monterey

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Does anyone else have problems with focus in the Music app? If I go into a 
playlist of any type, the focus stays with the first item, despite any command 
to change it. So even though I arrow down through the list and can play 
whatever song I am on, the focus is not there if I want to do anything with 
that specific item, such as add it to my library or download it etc.

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Renaming a playlist in the Music App

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I’m using the latest version and there is no longer a rename option in the 
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want it to be called, it is always named playlist with a number. How can I 
rename them?

Thanks.

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Voiceover jumps around

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Since the upgrade to Monterey, Voiceover is continually losing focus and going 
someplace else without any input from me. Sometimes it will go into another 
open app. Sometimes it will go from the email messages list into the message. 
It is never focused properly in the Music App. Is this a know issue, or 
something that is perhaps due to a configuration change I need to make?

Thanks for any info.

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Re: Mail question

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Yes, but there are only a few that have this type of command. Is there a way to 
make this kind of shortcut to other mailboxes?

Kristeen


> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> You can also go directly to mailboxes in your favorites list by using the CMD 
> key plus a NumberRow key.
> For example, you can go directly to the Inbox, by pressing CMD + NumberRow 1.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 06:09, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Les, Thank you very much for this. After going into the view menu and showing 
> my tab bar, yours was the solution.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 10:57 PM, Les Kriegler > <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> From my message list, I type VO left arrow twice and I land on the list of 
>> mailboxes.
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 5:56 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since upgrading to Monterey, it seems I can no longer shift+tab and then 
>>> tab to get to a list of mailboxes. How can one quickly move to specific 
>>> mailboxes. The keyboard shortcut that Apple says works for this does 
>>> nothing. It is command+shift+o.
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Re: Mail question

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Les, Thank you very much for this. After going into the view menu and showing 
my tab bar, yours was the solution.

Kristeen
 

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 10:57 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> From my message list, I type VO left arrow twice and I land on the list of 
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> 
>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 5:56 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> Since upgrading to Monterey, it seems I can no longer shift+tab and then tab 
>> to get to a list of mailboxes. How can one quickly move to specific 
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>> nothing. It is command+shift+o.
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Mail question

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Since upgrading to Monterey, it seems I can no longer shift+tab and then tab to 
get to a list of mailboxes. How can one quickly move to specific mailboxes. The 
keyboard shortcut that Apple says works for this does nothing. It is 
command+shift+o.

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Re: Magic keyboard question

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Thank you for this.

Kristeen


> On Nov 6, 2021, at 10:38 AM, 'ja...@jasonjgw.net' via MacVisionaries 
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> They’re listed here as FN-Up-Arrow and FN-Down-Arrow.
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236>
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> From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 10:31
> To: Mac Users Group  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Magic keyboard question
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> Can someone give me a quick refresher on how to do a page and page down with 
> the apple bluetooth keyboard that is not an extended keyboard?
> 
> Kristeen
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Magic keyboard question

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Can someone give me a quick refresher on how to do a page and page down with 
the apple bluetooth keyboard that is not an extended keyboard?

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Re: A question about Gmail, again

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Is this a setting I confirm on the google internet site, itself? I see no Gmail 
mailbox on the menus of the Apple App. The menus look very different between 
her older mail programs and boxes and the ones in Monterey, which is where it 
didn’t happen properly.

Kristeen


> On Nov 4, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> You may also wish to confirm that the Gmail mailbox is expanded so that the 
> other mailboxes within are visible.  First, make sure that the Mailbox list 
> is visible.  If it is, then interact with it, find the Gmail mailbox and make 
> sure that the disclosure triangle is announced as expanded.  Then take a look 
> at the list of items to see if the mailboxes show up.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
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>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 17:42, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> I’m sorry I did not see that message. Thanks.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Herbie Allen >> <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> remember a few of us answering your question last time. Did you try any of 
>>> those suggestions? I think I had mentioned about going into the Mail menu 
>>> and right aeroing to the sink settings and try refreshing that way.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 07:42, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Because someone highjacked my subject the last time I asked this, I will 
>>>> try again. After adding a gmail account to a new Mac, not all of the 
>>>> folders are showing. They are all checked to show if you go to the Gmail 
>>>> site, but only a few of them are there in the mail app on the Mac. Is 
>>>> there something I should, or can do short of deleting the account and 
>>>> trying again?
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Re: Verbosity

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Thank you very much for this.

Kristeen


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> Hello,
> You need to go into the Activity area of VOiceOver utility. It will then ask 
> what sections of VOiceOver do you want to customize for the activity. You can 
> then change the verbosity settings and at the end or bottom there is a place 
> to select applications or specific web sites to apply the activity to. The 
> VO-X command let you choose activities on demand.
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
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>> On Nov 5, 2021, at 07:28, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Can you adjust verbosity settings for a specific app? If so, how do you do 
>> this?
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Can you adjust verbosity settings for a specific app? If so, how do you do this?

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Re: A question about Gmail, again

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I’m sorry I did not see that message. Thanks.

Kristeen


> On Nov 4, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> Because someone highjacked my subject the last time I asked this, I will try 
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>> showing. They are all checked to show if you go to the Gmail site, but only 
>> a few of them are there in the mail app on the Mac. Is there something I 
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A question about Gmail, again

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Because someone highjacked my subject the last time I asked this, I will try 
again. After adding a gmail account to a new Mac, not all of the folders are 
showing. They are all checked to show if you go to the Gmail site, but only a 
few of them are there in the mail app on the Mac. Is there something I should, 
or can do short of deleting the account and trying again?

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Re: A question about the music app

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Thank you for this.

Kristeen


> On Nov 2, 2021, at 11:31 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> You can no longer change the setting in the Music app, so that items played 
> are not automatically added to your library.
> This option was removed a while back, when the app was still called iTunes.
> 
> To avoid adding played items to my library, I use QuickTime player, which is 
> a stock app, included on your Mac.
> 
> Additionally, I use Get Info to change the default application for most 
> commonly played music file-types to QuickTime Player, to help avoid 
> accidentally adding items to my Music library unintentionally.
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> 
> - Brad -
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> On Nov 2, 2021, at 16:42, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> Is there a way to play something without adding it to the music library, 
> short of changing the setting so that nothing is added?
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Yet one more question, this time about mail

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I truly do appreciate all of the knowledge you wondrous people have, and your 
generosity in sharing it. That being said, when my friend got her new Mini, she 
created her gmail account and only a few folders will show. She doesn’t see 
trash, all mail, and others, including folders she has created. The folders on 
the gmail site are all checked to show in IMAP, but they aren’t there. Anyone 
know how we can get them to show?

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A question about the music app

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Is there a way to play something without adding it to the music library, short 
of changing the setting so that nothing is added?

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Re: A problem with Monterey

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I am using a Mac mini from 2019. I did not do a clean install.

Kristeen


> On Oct 31, 2021, at 3:47 PM, matthew dyer  
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> Hi,
> 
> Not seeing this here.  First off, what kind of Mac are you using?  MBP? Air, 
> or something else.  Also, are you using an intelligent or M1?  I find that if 
> doing a clean install of any major os clears up; any problems that might come 
> up.
> 
> Matthew
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> 
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 2:01 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I upgraded last night and all seems to be well with the exception of Music. 
>> When I try to go into a playlist from the sidebar, Music stops responding. 
>> Anyone see this and know what may be happening?
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Re: Yet another question; this time about calendar

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Thank you. What I don’t understand is why, no matter how many times we 
dismissed it, it keeps coming back. That’s the real issue.

Kristeen


> On Oct 31, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Use the command vo plus command plus spacebar when you hear the calendar 
> announcement. This will bring up a list of actions you can take on the 
> notification. You can then arrow down to close and select it. This should 
> make the notification go away.
> 
> Greg Wocher
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>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 3:36 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Calendar continually comes up to tell me it’s Halloween. I can do nothing on 
>> the computer, because it is constant. Anyone got a suggestion?
>> 
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Re: Turning Voiceover On at startup

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Thank you very much for this. I’m wondering if you can tell me where you pasted 
it from.

Kristeen


> On Oct 31, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> See the following to enable VoiceOver at the Mac’s log in screen.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> Setting VoiceOver to Speak on the Mac's Login Screen
> 
> Note:  If you want VoiceOver to speak at the Log On screen, you must first go 
> to System Preferences > Security & Privacy, and disable File Vault, then do 
> the following steps.
> 
> IF using Big Sur, Catalina, or another recent version of macOS, do the 
> following to set VoiceOver to speak at the log on screen.
> 
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups.
> 2.  Navigate to the Lock, and press VO + Spacebar, then enter your Mac’s 
> admin password in order to make changes.
> 3.  Navigate to the Users, Groups & Login Options table, and interact using 
> VO + Shift + DownArrow.
> 4.  Once in the table, navigate to Login Options.  This is the last item in 
> the table.
> 5.  Use VO + Shift + UpArrow to stop interacting with the table.
> 6.  Use VO + RightArrow to navigate to the button labeled Accessibility 
> Options, and press VO + Spacebar.
> 7.  You have now opened a dialog box with a table containing Accessibility 
> Option that may be enable at the Login screen.  Interact with the table using 
> VO + Shift + DownArrow.  You will find that VoiceOver is the first item on 
> the list of options.  Use VO + Spacebar to select this option, or any other 
> option you wish to enable at the Login screen.
> 8.  Stop interacting with the table, and navigate to the Apply button, and 
> press VO + Spacebar.  The dialog will close.
> 9.  Press CMD + Q, to close System Preferences, and you are done.
> 
> 
> On Oct 30, 2021, at 19:05, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> I can’t remember where to go to do this. My friend would like it to start at 
> the log-in screen, and even after much scouring of my brain I can’t remember 
> where that setting lurks.
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Yet another question; this time about calendar

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Calendar continually comes up to tell me it’s Halloween. I can do nothing on 
the computer, because it is constant. Anyone got a suggestion?

Kristeen

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A problem with Monterey

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I upgraded last night and all seems to be well with the exception of Music. 
When I try to go into a playlist from the sidebar, Music stops responding. 
Anyone see this and know what may be happening?

Kristeen

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Turning Voiceover On at startup

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I can’t remember where to go to do this. My friend would like it to start at 
the log-in screen, and even after much scouring of my brain I can’t remember 
where that setting lurks.

Kristeen

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Re: A New Mac Mini

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Thank you very much for this piece of advice. It did the trick. I woke up 
wondering if thert was it and then I saw your message. I don’t think you should 
need a mouse, but that’s another E-Mail.

Kristeen


> On Oct 28, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Try connecting a mouse or trackpad. Even though you don't need one, I believe 
> the Mac will require it.
> I recently set up a new 24 inch M1 iMac for someone, and the computer 
> wouldn't do a thing until I connected a mouse to it.
> Once you get through the initial set up, you can get rid of the mouse or 
> trackpad. The Mac only requires it at the very beginning.
> 
> - Brad -
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> On Oct 28, 2021, at 17:57, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> I did. It acts like we are locked out. The little noice happens with any key 
> pressed.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:51 PM, Brett Campbell  wrote:
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>> Did you try including function key along with VO F5?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 4:30 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> I’m helping a friend who just got her new Mini with the M1 chip. She has it 
>>> plugged in and turned it on. Is there a special key combination she needs 
>>> to press as she boots it up. I ask, because when we pressed command+f5 to 
>>> get VO to come on all we got was a small done sound. We get that from any 
>>> key pressed. Where do we go from here?
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> just took the 
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Re: A New Mac Mini

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I haven’t had to have a dongle since the end of 2013. Would they actually make 
it that way again with the new minis? I would find that strange.

Kristeen


> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:47 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
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> Try searching for examples like Kaytech HDMI Dummy Plug Display Emulator 
> Headless Ghost Virtual Display Adapter. 
>  
>  
> From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 6:43 PM
> To: Mac Users Group 
> Subject: Re: A New Mac Mini
>  
> Where do you get such a dongle?
>  
> Kristeen
>  
> 
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Rebecca Skipper > <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Is a monitor connected to the Mini?
>> If not, a dongle that emulates a monitor should work.
>> I’ve heard of blind users having trouble if a monitor or adapter was not 
>> connected at startup.
>>  
>> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 6:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: A New Mac Mini
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Is she using an Apple keyboard?  If it is a third party keyboard, then it’s 
>> possible that the cmd and option keys are reversed.  So, you’d press 
>> option-f5 instead.
>>  
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 4:30 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I’m helping a friend who just got her new Mini with the M1 chip. She has it 
>>> plugged in and turned it on. Is there a special key combination she needs 
>>> to press as she boots it up. I ask, because when we pressed command+f5 to 
>>> get VO to come on all we got was a small done sound. We get that from any 
>>> key pressed. Where do we go from here?
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> just took the 
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Re: A New Mac Mini

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I did. It acts like we are locked out. The little noice happens with any key 
pressed.

Kristeen


> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:51 PM, Brett Campbell  wrote:
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> Did you try including function key along with VO F5?
> 
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>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 4:30 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> press as she boots it up. I ask, because when we pressed command+f5 to get 
>> VO to come on all we got was a small done sound. We get that from any key 
>> pressed. Where do we go from here?
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Re: A New Mac Mini

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Where do you get such a dongle?

Kristeen


> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Is a monitor connected to the Mini?
> If not, a dongle that emulates a monitor should work.
> I’ve heard of blind users having trouble if a monitor or adapter was not 
> connected at startup.
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>  
> Hi,
>  
> Is she using an Apple keyboard?  If it is a third party keyboard, then it’s 
> possible that the cmd and option keys are reversed.  So, you’d press 
> option-f5 instead.
>  
> Later…
>  
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>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 4:30 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> plugged in and turned it on. Is there a special key combination she needs to 
>> press as she boots it up. I ask, because when we pressed command+f5 to get 
>> VO to come on all we got was a small done sound. We get that from any key 
>> pressed. Where do we go from here?
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> just took the 
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Re: A New Mac Mini

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

She is using an Apple Magic keyboard, but she has no monitor. I have never had 
a monitor and I haven’t needed a dongle or anything. What does she need to get?

Kristeen

> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
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> Is she using an Apple keyboard?  If it is a third party keyboard, then it’s 
> possible that the cmd and option keys are reversed.  So, you’d press 
> option-f5 instead.
> 
> Later…
> 
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>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 4:30 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> plugged in and turned it on. Is there a special key combination she needs to 
>> press as she boots it up. I ask, because when we pressed command+f5 to get 
>> VO to come on all we got was a small done sound. We get that from any key 
>> pressed. Where do we go from here?
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A New Mac Mini

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I’m helping a friend who just got her new Mini with the M1 chip. She has it 
plugged in and turned it on. Is there a special key combination she needs to 
press as she boots it up. I ask, because when we pressed command+f5 to get VO 
to come on all we got was a small done sound. We get that from any key pressed. 
Where do we go from here?

Kristeen
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File duplicate detector

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Does anyone know of a good app that can detect duplicate filenames that have 
different file extensions but the same text for the rest of the filename?

Thanks.

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Can I recover a deleted playlist

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Obviously, my mind was in too many places yesterday when I deleted a huge 
playlist from my music app. Is there a way I can get it back by restoring from 
my backup? If so, please help me!!! I have never successfully restored a file 
from the backup, or rather time machine app.

Thank anyone who can help.

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Re: Dropbox on the Web

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Yes, but you have to go online to view the folders that you are no longer 
seeing on the computer. This was impossible to see when I tried.

Kristeen


> On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I have good news on this front, you don’t need the website as you can access 
> the smart sink within the app. The easy way is for any folder you can do VO 
> Shift M, and up arrow to Smart Sink. Right arrow and hit enter on online 
> only. The other method, go to your menu extras with VO shift MM. And VO space 
> on Dropbox. Go down to preferences at the bottom and VO space. Go to the 
> notifications toolbar and look for the sink option. You can set Smart Sink 
> universally.
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>> navigating the Dropbox site at all with Chrome or Safari. Does anyone have 
>> any insight into this? It works fine from the desktop as long as you don’t 
>> need the web. Is there something I’m missing?
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Dropbox on the Web

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I am trying to use Dropbox from the Web. I don’t have a lot of space on my hard 
drive so I need to implement smart sync. I am not having any luck navigating 
the Dropbox site at all with Chrome or Safari. Does anyone have any insight 
into this? It works fine from the desktop as long as you don’t need the web. Is 
there something I’m missing?

Kristeen

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Re: Music doesn't seem to be the same with Big Sur

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Is there a way to reliably get to the sidebar? I don't seem to be able to do 
this. I would like to be able to because I choose playlists a lot. I have to 
close the app and reopen it, hoping for the sidebar when I do.

Kristeen


On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

You have to VO left and right for the situations where you can no longer use VO 
J.


> On Mar 26, 2021, at 19:33, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> I used VO+j all the time. Now there's no reliable to get from a playlist back 
> to the sie ar.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I agree. The one big difference that I can recall is you cannot rely on VO J 
> but otherwise, it’s not that different.
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:39, Patrick Ford  wrote:
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>> Hi, I find the functions seem the same as far as searching, and downloading 
>> and playlists, but the layout is a bit different as far as vo and arrowing.
>> Patrick  
>> Come and See
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>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:32 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Are there any tweaks that can make it function the way it did under 
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Re: Music doesn't seem to be the same with Big Sur

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I used VO+j all the time. Now there's no reliable to get from a playlist back 
to the sie ar.

Kristeen

On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:

I agree. The one big difference that I can recall is you cannot rely on VO J 
but otherwise, it’s not that different.

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> Hi, I find the functions seem the same as far as searching, and downloading 
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>> Are there any tweaks that can make it function the way it did under previous 
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Music doesn't seem to be the same with Big Sur

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Are there any tweaks that can make it function the way it did under previous 
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recording a voice memo on my Mac Mini

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Is it possible to record on my mini using a bluetooth headset such as the 
newest Apple Power Beetz? It seems from what I read that this should work, but 
no app I try seems to record. Do I have to have an external microphone instead?

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Finding a sender's e-mail address

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If I want to send a message to someone who has sent to a list, how can I get 
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Re: problem after update to the newest version of the OS operating system

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I will try the PRAM reset because the shutdown/restart has no fix.

Thank you for the suggestion.

Kristeen


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Hi,

In my experience, this isn’t new to the newest OS.  I’ve seen it off and on for 
the past two or three updates.  Usually either shutting down, restarting, or, 
in the worst case, a PRAM reset tend to fix it.  Hope this helps.

Sarah


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> When VO+M is pressed twice, the extras menu no longer functions. This is 
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problem after update to the newest version of the OS operating system

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When VO+M is pressed twice, the extras menu no longer functions. This is 
concerning. Does anyone know what might be done to correct this?

Thanks.

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A problem with .m4p files

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I have a number of m4p files that are no longer in my music library, but are on 
my hard drive in the apple music folder under itunes Media. Since they are not 
in the library, the Music app does not see them. How can I open them. I try 
bringing up the shift+VO+M and choosing open with the Music app and nothing. 
Quicktime also does nothing. My computer is authorized to play these files.

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Re: finding someone's E-Mail address from an E-Mail message

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That doesn't work if the mail came from a list, or does it?

Kristeen


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Hi,

I open the persons message press command+r to reply. Then in the message field 
at the top the address can be found.
Copy and close the window and make a new message.

best,
Ronald


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> Thank you very much for this.
> 
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> On Jul 9, 2020, at 10:45 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> there might be an easier way but the way I do this is to open the email and 
> then press command-option-u. it says: "Raw Source." there's all kinds of 
> stuff in there. you have to arrow way down till you get to the person's email 
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Re: finding someone's E-Mail address from an E-Mail message

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Thank you very much for this.

Kristeen


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there might be an easier way but the way I do this is to open the email and 
then press command-option-u. it says: "Raw Source." there's all kinds of stuff 
in there. you have to arrow way down till you get to the person's email address.

Lorie

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finding someone's E-Mail address from an E-Mail message

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How can I do this? I want to send to someone that sent an E-Mail through a 
list. There should still be a way to see the address, shouldn't there?

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a problem with quick look

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A friend is going through a lot of music files to see if she wants to put them 
into her music portion of the OS. To listen to them for this purpose, she is 
using quick look by pressing the spacebar on a highlighted file. Recently, she 
has noticed that at an unspecified point in any file, not all and not specific 
files, the file will simply jump back to the beginning and begin to play again. 
This happens often enough that it is not really workable. Does anyone know why 
this would happen. I have not seen it myself. She is using El Capitan on a 
Mac-book pro from 2015 or 2016.

Thanks for any information that might help.

Kristeen

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Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy

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Is there a way to make it so that each letter isn't individually pronounced? 

Kristeen


On May 7, 2020, at 9:59 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

On iOS, and any and all mention of Remy‘s name, I hear it’s spoken first in 
English, and then in a second voice it is spoken in Arabic. So I’m getting an 
echo. And that’s a little annoying. It’s got nothing to do with race religion 
color creed or anything like that it’s just I’m getting a damn echo and it’s 
only with his name and that’s why I’m asking. Comprende?

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 7, 2020, at 5:08 AM, Simon A Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m sorry I can’t see what the issue is!?
>  
> I’ve seen the Arabic text and not worried about it,
> I hear  his name and it all just sounds like what I hear with everyone elses 
> emails,
>  
> I personally think people need to relax a bit more and not be so judgemental 
> about things that are really not getting annoyed about.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2020 8:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Question About E-mails from Ramy
>  
> My only gripe is that I have to hear his name twice and it takes up time. I’m 
> not some kind of evil racist.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
>  
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately it isn't enough to just throw in a foreign language, you need 
> to indicate it is a different language. in HTML you would usually use a span 
> tag for this.
> BonJour  
> I wrote the above in textedit and saved it as bj.html (after making sure it 
> was a plain text file). When I opened that file in Safari, VO read it in a 
> French voice. I then copies the entire HTML page and pasted it below, I 
> believe it will still use my  English synthesizer.
> I even tried changing the spell check to French which is enough on Microsoft 
> Word to change the language. So, I don't know how one writes multi-lingual 
> text on Mac and have VO recognize it.
>  
> BonJour
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 4:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> You shouldn’t really notice any change unless you land on text that is in a 
> different language.  If VO figures out the that it is French, or Spanish etc, 
> it should change accordingly for pronouncing that, or those, words.  It will 
> remain speaking Alex the rest of the time.
>  
> I’ll throw a French word or two in the sentence below to see if it works at 
> all.
>  
> Bonjour, je m’appelle Tim.  Comment ça va?
>  
> A bientot.
> 
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> On May 5, 2020, at 1:52 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> I read Tim’s instructions but it’s not made any difference.  I land on that 
> option and voice over does nothing when I press the space bar.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 20:48, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> But I want to use Alex.  I just want to turn off the automatic language so 
> those characters don’t get read out.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 20:46, Pete De Vasto  > wrote:
>  
> If you perform the below instructions, using the down-arrow instead of up 
> will take you past the automatic language suggestion and land on other voices 
> like Alex or Victoria or Samantha or whoever you want. At least, that’s what 
> happened to me. Also, it may take a couple of seconds for VO to load the next 
> voice you come upon when you do this.
>  
> Pete
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 12:41 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> So how do you turn off the automatic language?  Couldn’t find it where the 
> language was.
> 
> 
> On 5 May 2020, at 18:44, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
>  
> This option can be found by holding down, VO + CMD + SHIFT, then + Left or 
> Right Arrow until you get to Voice, then up arrow until you get to 
> Automatically Select Based on Language.
>  
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
>  
>  
> On May 5, 2020, at 11:07, Dave Carlson  > wrote:
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> Pete,
> Think it’s under Settings/General/Keyboard. But not absolutely certain.
>  
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Learning Terminal

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The subject says it. I want to learn more about this powerful app, and I'm not 
sure how this is best done. Does anyone have book recommendations or places on 
the web?

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reinitializing bluetooth

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RDesetting is not the same. I need to do this and when I looked it up, the way 
to do it was visual. Can anyone tell me if there is an alternative?

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Status of uploads to iCloud

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When uploading to iCloud, how can I see the status of the upload, such as how 
long it will take and the amount uploade or left to upload?

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Re: Searching a specific folder for a specific file type on the mac

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Thanks for this.

Kristeen


On Feb 15, 2020, at 10:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  In the folder, do a VO left which should land you on the Kind button. This 
groups the different file types. .zip would likely then be the last group in 
that folder.

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/15/2020 7:27 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> The problem I have is restricting it to a specific folder. If I use 
> command+spacebar, I can't do this, but it doesn't seem to work if I do the 
> command=option+f command either. How do you just get it to look in the fokder 
> you are in currently?
> Kristeen
> On Feb 15, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> If you type "zip" into the search field and then press down arrow a couple of 
> times you should find a menu item for zip archive. Also note that unlike Unix 
> and Google searches, apple meta data searches can accept partial words.
> HTH!
> Best wishes,
> Jonathan Cohn
>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:36 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I have been trying to figure out a way to do this for awhile now, since they 
>> changed the search function. I want to search a specific folder and find all 
>> of the files that end with .zip. I can not make this happen. It seems like 
>> it should be possible. What am I not doing correctly
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
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Re: Searching a specific folder for a specific file type on the mac

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The problem I have is restricting it to a specific folder. If I use 
command+spacebar, I can't do this, but it doesn't seem to work if I do the 
command=option+f command either. How do you just get it to look in the fokder 
you are in currently?

Kristeen


On Feb 15, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

If you type "zip" into the search field and then press down arrow a couple of 
times you should find a menu item for zip archive. Also note that unlike Unix 
and Google searches, apple meta data searches can accept partial words. 
HTH!

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> I have been trying to figure out a way to do this for awhile now, since they 
> changed the search function. I want to search a specific folder and find all 
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> should be possible. What am I not doing correctly
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Searching a specific folder for a specific file type on the mac

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

I have been trying to figure out a way to do this for awhile now, since they 
changed the search function. I want to search a specific folder and find all of 
the files that end with .zip. I can not make this happen. It seems like it 
should be possible. What am I not doing correctly

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Malware Bytes

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Jerry, I just saw your post and tried what you said, and it helps a bit. As you 
say, it's awkward, but at least you've given me a fighting chance. Thanks for 
the info.

Kristeen


On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Hey Jerry,

Change of subject slightly,
How the temperature in your neighbourhood?

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Subject: Re: Malware Bytes

Hi well having opened it if you VO to background image VO space on that and 
after using vo right arrow about 3 to 4 times it should say scan then it tells 
you what you might or might not hav or congratulations you are clean.  I must 
admit its a pain and it is in menu extras as frontend agent and you get nothing 
from that so your better off opening it from the applications folder.  I found 
it by accident so hope that helps i’ll get the dev on to it and see what 
happens. 

> On 5 Jan 2020, at 12:47 am, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> This is one of the only apps my Apple store techs suggest using. I downloaded 
> the new version. It doesn't seem accessible at all. I used a version before 
> and it was very friendly. Has anyone used this app? Am I missing something?
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
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Re: 360 Mac Care?

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How can you get the flash player to go completely away?

Kristeen


On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Just my opinion, but I would be Leary of anything that just “pops up” on my 
computer.  I would also advise that you stop using Flash Player because it is 
widely known to be a security risk, and no longer necessary on a Mac.

- Brad -


On Jan 2, 2020, at 14:44, CHUCK REICHEL mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,
This app popped up on my mac book air after updating flash player under Mojave.
360 Mac Care helps you Speed Up Your Mac and Make it Secure. It aims to provide 
users a great experience for an Optimized Mac and optimal use of resources.
Heres one of the things it listed;
360 Mac Care has found junk and unwanted items on your mac that can be safely 
deleted.
360 Mac Care"” is from this company • Wise Tech Labs Private Limited, All 
rights reserved.
Any body using this and is it safe and efficient?
Thanks
Chuck
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Malware Bytes

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This is one of the only apps my Apple store techs suggest using. I downloaded 
the new version. It doesn't seem accessible at all. I used a version before and 
it was very friendly. Has anyone used this app? Am I missing something?

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Question about Chrome

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Do people prefer it over Safari? If people are using it, how do you import your 
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How do I change the sort order of my folders?

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Somehow every time I open a folder I have not opened before it sorts from z to 
A. I do not want it this way. I have to change it in each folder. How can I 
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Re: Recycling my Mac Mini

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Backing it up was the first thing I did. Thanks for the rest of the info.

Kristeen


On Nov 9, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

I would back up your data to an external drive so you have a copy in case of 
sudden cases of needing it 

Then if possible do a secure eraise on the drive,

This is better done from using a bootable flash  drive and I would recommend a 
secure eraise of 4 times to be really sure it can't be read again.
Or at least easily.

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Subject: Recycling my Mac Mini

In order to send my Mini in for recycling, what should I do th get rid of all 
personal data?

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Recycling my Mac Mini

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In order to send my Mini in for recycling, what should I do th get rid of all 
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Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

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That is in the Safari preferences under the advanced tab.

Kristeen
On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'm looking for the checkbox for "press tab to highlight each item". is that in 
the vo utility and if so, where? thanks. 
Lorie


> On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy".  
> Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mode for browsing, you will notice a 
> lag as VO fills the buffer for certain groups.  A couple of things one can 
> try here is to change to DOM mode on that site, or to tab through elements 
> instead of VO navigation.  When using tab, it is useful to make sure that the 
> "Press Tab to highlight each item on a webpage" checkbox is checked.  This 
> makes the tab key much more useful when moving through web pages and allows 
> you to press option-tab to go directly to form fields.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 4, 2019, at 08:15, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
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> Hi!
> Yes i understand your frustration too.
> But i don’t think apple has made regressions of mac and accessibility.
> Though i have had similar issues too.
> I think you can turn off some things in both VoiceOver and Safari to make it 
> easier for VO to handle the page.
> I am quite not sure about what to turn off but i will dig a little and come 
> back.
> /A
> 
>> 2 nov. 2019 kl. 21:42 skrev Eric Brinkman > >:
>> 
>> If I can't reliably use the machine to browse the web, then it's not
>> going to suit my needs.  These issues do not occur with Jaws or, to my
>> knowledge, with NVDA.  Apple has shifted most of its development away
>> from the Mac, and, ever since the iPhone 5 Maps debacle, they have
>> just been rushing out products that aren't ready for prime time.  It's
>> a shame, because I do still like VO on the iPhone.  I'm very tempted
>> to sell my MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> On 11/2/19, Lorie McCloud mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>> I have this problem too. sometimes it just quits talking and makes this
>>> buzzing sound as if it's completely overloaded. I'm not running catalina
>>> yet. a work around I have found is to turn vo off, wait for a few seconds
>>> and turn it back on again. sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't.
>>> 
 On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Eric Brinkman >>> >
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac.  I just visited
 allmusic.com  and tried to look up an artist and 
 read the bio and some
 album reviews.  When I first accessed the site, VO would say "Safari
 busy" but would work eventually.  Then when I got to the artist's
 actual page, it just got stuck on busy.  This is happening far too
 often and I am winding up using Windows in Fusion, which has its own
 issues.  It drains the battery more quickly and just isn't as
 responsive.  With all of the other issues in Catalina and IOS 13, I am
 considering just buying a PC.  Apple's quality control is just not
 there anymore.  Are other people experiencing "Safari busy"
 frequently?  Have you found a solution?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Eric
 
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Re: Safari and Allmusic.com

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The start page is not a problem for me, but after typing in a search cryteria, 
I can never access the results. It just keeps saying it's busy and that's it.

Kristeen
On Nov 4, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Taking a very short look on the allmusic.com  i don’t 
seem to have busy problems in safari.
This doesn’t mean they exist for others.
However to help you out i need to know if there’s a special section of the page 
you’re having problems with?
Its very klunky built in my opinion so i am not amazed that some might have 
problems with it.
But the start page seems to work fine for me.
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Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

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Interesting you should mention that site. I have trouble with it all the time 
in the same way. Other things work fine. I have wondered if it is specific to 
that page, but can't figure out why it is happening.

Kristeen
On Nov 2, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Eric Brinkman  wrote:

Hi all,

I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac.  I just visited
allmusic.com and tried to look up an artist and read the bio and some
album reviews.  When I first accessed the site, VO would say "Safari
busy" but would work eventually.  Then when I got to the artist's
actual page, it just got stuck on busy.  This is happening far too
often and I am winding up using Windows in Fusion, which has its own
issues.  It drains the battery more quickly and just isn't as
responsive.  With all of the other issues in Catalina and IOS 13, I am
considering just buying a PC.  Apple's quality control is just not
there anymore.  Are other people experiencing "Safari busy"
frequently?  Have you found a solution?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

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A file renaming question

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Is there a way to rename a large group of files so that the beginning numbering 
is gone and the text and file extension remains?

Thank you for any help.

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Re: No joy with Spotlight

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Thank you for this, I like it much better most of the time, because I simply 
want to find files in a specific folder. It is much less cumbersome to me.

Kristeen
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Hi,

I guess it depends on what you're searching for.  Yes, Spotlight brings up 
dictionary definitions, possible files whereas cmd-f only returns files and 
such.  I don't do anything fancy, just press cmd-f, enter the search criteria, 
press return, stop interacting with the ToolBar, then select the radio button 
for This Mac, or the current folder/volume. I can change the view of the 
results, get more granular and search only for media files, include System 
files etc.  Spotlight is an excellent resource, but I'm just more used to using 
the cmd-f.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 14, 2019, at 09:29, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Tim,

Not sure I agree. CMD+F does bring up a search field for typing something, but 
it does not work at all like the spotlight search. Is there some preference or 
setup that would make it do so?

Dave Carlson
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Re: No joy with Spotlight

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Thank you for this article.

Kristeen
On Oct 14, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Leo  wrote:

Hi Kristeen,

if the search on spotlight doesn't come up with expected results, you might 
consider reading this:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201716

I have to tell you something, the "no expected results problem" on spotlight 
happened to me some time ago, and I remember trying to follow the steps in the 
Apple support page that I posted above, however, it didn't work for me, but I 
got this problem fixed when I upgraded to Mojave last year. Strange, but it 
happens...


Best,
  Leo.

On 10/14/2019 4:37 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Since I upgraded to Mojave, I have not been able to do anything functional 
> with Spotlight or any way of finding something on my computer. I try to 
> follow the one thing I see on the internet which says to press VO+m three 
> times and Spotlight will come up. This doesn't happen, so no problem, use 
> command+spacebar. I type in a search string and I always and only see a list 
> of folders on my backup/media disk. These never have anything to do with what 
> I'm looking for. I used to love the command+option+spacebar, but this doesn't 
> seem to work any longer. It would simply search the folder I was in, which is 
> what I want. I realize this may not be clear or enough. Let me know what can 
> help so that someone can help me, please!!!
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: Recording voice with Amadeus Pro

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Thanks for this.

Kristeen

On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Røde procaster.
A very big but great mic.
/A

> 10 okt. 2019 kl. 16:24 skrev 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Does anyone ues amadeus to record something like a podcast on their mac? If 
> so, what is a good microphone to use? Is it ever possible to record one's 
> voice through a bluetooth headset that is primarily designed with iPhone in 
> mind?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kristeen
> the
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No joy with Spotlight

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Since I upgraded to Mojave, I have not been able to do anything functional with 
Spotlight or any way of finding something on my computer. I try to follow the 
one thing I see on the internet which says to press VO+m three times and 
Spotlight will come up. This doesn't happen, so no problem, use 
command+spacebar. I type in a search string and I always and only see a list of 
folders on my backup/media disk. These never have anything to do with what I'm 
looking for. I used to love the command+option+spacebar, but this doesn't seem 
to work any longer. It would simply search the folder I was in, which is what I 
want. I realize this may not be clear or enough. Let me know what can help so 
that someone can help me, please!!!

Kristeen

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Recording voice with Amadeus Pro

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Does anyone ues amadeus to record something like a podcast on their mac? If so, 
what is a good microphone to use? Is it ever possible to record one's voice 
through a bluetooth headset that is primarily designed with iPhone in mind?

Thank you.

Kristeen
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An Amadeus Recording Question

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If I am using a bluetooth headset that has a built-in mic, can I use this to 
record in Amadeus Pro. I have tried and nothing happens. Can I do it, and if 
so, what do I need to set up in order to make it work?

Thanks for any help.
Kristeen

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Re: New Mac User

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Someone mentioned that you could simply go through mail hearing only the 
subject spoken. Can this be explained?

Kristeen
On Sep 2, 2019, at 9:30 PM, d.prater via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I've used a Mac for a good 7 or more years. Int time, I've used Windows, the 
Mac, and several forms of Linux. The Mac, nor VoiceOver, is perfect, but for 
me, especially for reading Mail, writing documents, or even dabbling in code, 
the Mac is great for beginners, and advanced users too. VoiceOver can hold your 
hand through any task. You'd lead it, of course, just like the iPhone, but it 
would help a lot. Once you're used to things, VoiceOver can be used in amazing 
ways, like only saying the subject of an and nothing more if you want, making 
going through email an absolute joy compared to the Windows screen readers. 
Also, one can move and resize windows, and even single controls. One can know 
if an app launches in the background. With the Mac itself, you can have time 
announced. Spell checking, are built in. Auto correct is a joy to use. All this 
could be done in Windows if Microsoft wanted, but it hasn't yet. So, for now, 
Mac is the operating system of the future, for general computing, until iPad 
takes place.  

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor



On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:34 PM -0500, "Marie" mailto:magpie...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Oh, I guess I read it too fast, so glad of the clarification and I will take 
your advice on this one. Thanks,
Marie
 
 
From: Phil Halton <>
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 7:05 AM
To:  <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New Mac User
 
Actually Marie, I was referring not to the QuickStart tutorial, but to the 
getting started guide. That’s a much more in-depth tutorial it’s an actual book 
of chapters devoted to various functions of voiceover. It’s the bottom most 
entry in the help system just below the QuickStart tutorial. It also has 
appendices for various keystrokes and functions etc.  Good luck.

Sent from my IPhone
 

On Sep 1, 2019, at 1:09 AM, Hemachandran Karaha < <>hemaka...@gmail.com 
> wrote:

> Hi Marie,
>  
> I find David Woodbridge audio tutorials extremely good. I have immensely 
> benefited from them.
>  
> Warmly,
> Hem.
>  
>  
> From: <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> < <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> > On Behalf Of Phil Halton
> Sent: 01 September 2019 05:55
> To:  <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: New Mac User
>  
> Marie, don’t forget to plow through the getting started guide. You can find 
> it by pressing the help menu keys VO plus h. The getting started guide is 
> down at the bottom of the list. You might find some trouble in browsing at 
> first, but try to bring up the table of contents and you’ll find a wealth of 
> information about using voiceover on the Mac. Also check out the other items 
> in the voiceover help menu while you’re at it. I think you’ll find all you 
> need there along with questions on list you should learn quite quickly.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
>  
> 
> On Aug 31, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Marie < <>magpie...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> 
> I listened to the short introductory videos on the Hadley site, as  well as 
> several from David Woodbridge  on Applies and some other misc. also from 
> Apple Vis. Today I am going to sit down with the Air and follow the free 
> podcast from John, Introduction to Voiceover on the Mac.
> I have lots to learn for sure.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Petrus Tuerlings 
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 1:13 PM
> To: <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New Mac User
>  
> Hi Marie and others, 
> Welcome to the list Marie, what are the podcasts you’ve listened to so far? I 
> may have herd some of them already but you never no. I’m also a new user, 
> well I’ve been using a Mac since January but still consider myself a 
> beginner. I only ever used windows machines and never liked it, loads of 
> people told me not to get a Mac but I’m glad I did. The folks this list have 
> been a huge help and I would have been lost without them. 
> Petrus 
> 
> 
> On 1/09/2019, at 3:12 AM, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries < 
> <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > 
> wrote:
>  
> I am another new member, but I am a little more experienced than Marie. I 
> joined this group because I have a job with my church editing documents. We 
> are using Pages and I don’t know a whole lot about pages. We are not using 
> the templates, thank heaven. We are just using it the way one would use text 
> edit so I don’t have a lot to learn but any fine points would be beneficial. 
> This looks like a very good group and I know a few of you from other lists  
> I already know that the Mac is 

Re: Book "Mastering the Mac"

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How can I get this book?

Kristeen
On Aug 21, 2019, at 10:18 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Dave,

I did 
I'll get that on it's way later today.

Cheers.


Simon 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Book "Mastering the Mac"

Simon,
Not sure if you got my reply, but the Apple ID is dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net 
Please let me know where I can find the book once you’ve sent it over. Thanks 
again.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer



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An editing annoyance

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A friend’s computer makes a sound that sounds something like a drop of water 
whenever she mistypes something in an E-Mail or Text Edit. She wants to stop 
this. My computer doesn’t do it and I can’t remember if it ever did. I don’t 
know how to get this to stop. Can someone help?

Kristeen

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Re: The universal keyboard feature

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Thank you for this.

Kristeen
On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Hello,

I just send an e-mail to myself with the content I am trying to transfer 
between systems. When handoff works, it is great, but with I can't depend on it 
always working while email between personal and work accounts always seems to 
work. Yesterday I was reading an article about testing web designs with  people 
with disabilities and wanted to share it with the design and development group 
at work. I clicked the share button and selected AirDrop but my work system 
never showed up. So, it was much easier to go down to the "Mail" share sheet 
and then send the document.
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jul 29, 2019, at 5:55 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You called this email. Is this a specific service that I can find?
> 
> Kristeen
> On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I generally find the universal clipboard feature called “Mail” to be more 
> consistent if a little less efficient. That being said, you need to make sure 
> that the following are all set:
> 1. Both systems are logged into the same iCloud account.
> 2. Bluetooth and WiFi are enabled on both systems.
> 3. Both systems are on the same WiFi.
> 4. The feature is enabled on both systems. 
> It is possible that item 3 is not required, and in fact in one specification, 
> I believe I read that this service sets up a temporary point to point 
> ethernet connection. 
> Sometimes disabling the service and re-enabling it will work. 
> 
> Best of Luck!
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone use this feature successfully? If so, I must be doing something 
>> wrong. I have gotten it to work once for all the times I’ve tried. It’s 
>> available on both my iPhone and my Mac mini, but it just does nothing when I 
>> attempt to paste something on one machine that I have supposedly copied 
>> using the other. Is there any way of shedding light on this with the minimal 
>> description I have given?
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Re: The universal keyboard feature

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You called this email. Is this a specific service that I can find?

Kristeen
On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

I generally find the universal clipboard feature called “Mail” to be more 
consistent if a little less efficient. That being said, you need to make sure 
that the following are all set:
1. Both systems are logged into the same iCloud account.
2. Bluetooth and WiFi are enabled on both systems.
3. Both systems are on the same WiFi.
4. The feature is enabled on both systems. 
It is possible that item 3 is not required, and in fact in one specification, I 
believe I read that this service sets up a temporary point to point ethernet 
connection. 
Sometimes disabling the service and re-enabling it will work. 

Best of Luck!

Jonathan C. Cohn



> On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone use this feature successfully? If so, I must be doing something 
> wrong. I have gotten it to work once for all the times I’ve tried. It’s 
> available on both my iPhone and my Mac mini, but it just does nothing when I 
> attempt to paste something on one machine that I have supposedly copied using 
> the other. Is there any way of shedding light on this with the minimal 
> description I have given?
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: The universal keyboard feature

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They are both on the same network and on the same iCloud account. It’s 
frustrating, if it is just broken.

Kristeen
On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I got it to work with My mac and Iphone XR.
I copied from my mac to my Iphone Xr.
Be sure that you’re logged into the same icloud account with both devices.
I think they must be on the same network too so if you for example a 2.4 ghz 
and one 5ghz network and if they alter between these it wont work.
Hands-off must be turned on too.
That’s what i can come up with.
/A

> 29 juli 2019 kl. 12:54 skrev 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Does anyone use this feature successfully? If so, I must be doing something 
> wrong. I have gotten it to work once for all the times I’ve tried. It’s 
> available on both my iPhone and my Mac mini, but it just does nothing when I 
> attempt to paste something on one machine that I have supposedly copied using 
> the other. Is there any way of shedding light on this with the minimal 
> description I have given?
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: The universal keyboard feature

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As I said in my original post the necessary settings are enabled on both my 
iPhone and computer.

Kristeen

On Jul 29, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Open system settings and select general.
Allow hand off between this mac  or similar should be checked.
/A

> 29 juli 2019 kl. 18:18 skrev Michael Busboom :
> 
> 
> I found the hand-off setting
> on my iPhone but, despite using the search feature in my MacBook settings, I 
> couldn’t get to it.  Could you tell me where to find this setting on my Mac?  
> This is an embarrassing request, because the search field is right there, but 
> when I type hand-off, I come up empty.  I want to make sure that it is turned 
> on on my Mac.  Thanks.
> 
> Mike 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29.07.2019, at 17:40, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The setting you are seeking is Handoff.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 7/29/2019 8:26 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> Hello Jonathan,
>>> I read with interest your explanation about enabling the Universal 
>>> Clipboard.  Although I have used this feature many times in the past, 
>>> getting it to work has been a hit and miss proposition.
>>> The one point in your message that is confusing to me is Point 4:  "The 
>>> feature is enabled on both systems.“
>>> How do you enable the feature?  Under settings on my iPhone 10,, I did a 
>>> search for the terms universal and clipboard.  I came up empty.
>>> Could you tell me how to enable the feature, both on my iPhone 10 and 
>>> MacBook Pro?
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It is possible that item 3 is not r
>>>> On 29.07.2019, at 16:09, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I generally find the universal clipboard feature called “Mail” to be more 
>>>> consistent if a little less efficient. That being said, you need to make 
>>>> sure that the following are all set:
>>>> 1. Both systems are logged into the same iCloud account.
>>>> 2. Bluetooth and WiFi are enabled on both systems.
>>>> 3. Both systems are on the same WiFi.
>>>> 4. The feature is enabled on both systems.
>>>> It is possible that item 3 is not required, and in fact in one 
>>>> specification, I believe I read that this service sets up a temporary 
>>>> point to point ethernet connection.
>>>> Sometimes disabling the service and re-enabling it will work.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of Luck!
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone use this feature successfully? If so, I must be doing 
>>>>> something wrong. I have gotten it to work once for all the times I’ve 
>>>>> tried. It’s available on both my iPhone and my Mac mini, but it just does 
>>>>> nothing when I attempt to paste something on one machine that I have 
>>>>> supposedly copied using the other. Is there any way of shedding light on 
>>>>> this with the minimal description I have given?
>>>>> 
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The universal keyboard feature

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Does anyone use this feature successfully? If so, I must be doing something 
wrong. I have gotten it to work once for all the times I’ve tried. It’s 
available on both my iPhone and my Mac mini, but it just does nothing when I 
attempt to paste something on one machine that I have supposedly copied using 
the other. Is there any way of shedding light on this with the minimal 
description I have given?

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BiKeyboard problem Solved

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As it turned out, I had accidentally enabled my mouse keys. That is not a good 
thing to do, if you are not expecting it. I’d never done it before, so I didn’t 
know what the behavior would be. I’m very glad that’s over.

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Re: A very Strange keyboard issue

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I was never in the settings that I know of. At least, not consciously. If I did 
this, is there a way I can undo it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> Did you accidentally get one-handed mode turned on in settings?
> 
> On 6/28/19, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries
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>> for no reason that I can think of, certain keys on the right side of my
>> keyboard will not function. They were working fine one second, and then not
>> the next. It doesn’t matter what keyboard I try to use, it’s still the same.
>> I can’t seem to boot the Mac into recovery mode. I think I’m not using the
>> right command sequence. Does anyone know if there is a setting or something
>> that could be explaining this? The keys that don’t work are The letters on
>> the right hand side. This is my best guess, based on how  the keyboard is
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>> Thanks for any help anyone might have.
>> 
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A very Strange keyboard issue

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for no reason that I can think of, certain keys on the right side of my 
keyboard will not function. They were working fine one second, and then not the 
next. It doesn’t matter what keyboard I try to use, it’s still the same. I 
can’t seem to boot the Mac into recovery mode. I think I’m not using the right 
command sequence. Does anyone know if there is a setting or something that 
could be explaining this? The keys that don’t work are The letters on the right 
hand side. This is my best guess, based on how  the keyboard is functioning.

Thanks for any help anyone might have.

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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

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Thanks for the Handbreak suggestion.

Kristeen
On Jun 6, 2019, at 2:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

Well, if they're mp4, then they should actually open.  Not sure why you're 
having issues with specific mp4 files.  In either case, you could use HandBrake 
to convert them to other formats.

Later...

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:45, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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These are files I must use for podcasts. I have to make sure they will be able 
to be opened in Amadeus Pro and will function fully. Sometimes, Amadeus will 
open them, but not see all of them. I know about Quicktime, but it does nothing 
for my needs.

Kristeen
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Hi,

Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
will natively open mp4 files.

Later...

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Jamf Certified Associate
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On Jun 6, 2019, at 10:26, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
so that it will play on my Mac or IOS device. Does anyone know what app is best 
for doing this? I have opened the .mp4 files in Amadeus pro, but they don’t 
always work properly. Sometimes it does not get the whole file.

Thanks for any help you might have.

Kristeen

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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

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These are files I must use for podcasts. I have to make sure they will be able 
to be opened in Amadeus Pro and will function fully. Sometimes, Amadeus will 
open them, but not see all of them. I know about Quicktime, but it does nothing 
for my needs.

Kristeen
On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
will natively open mp4 files.

Later...

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 10:26, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
so that it will play on my Mac or IOS device. Does anyone know what app is best 
for doing this? I have opened the .mp4 files in Amadeus pro, but they don’t 
always work properly. Sometimes it does not get the whole file.

Thanks for any help you might have.

Kristeen

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How do I convert an mp4 file

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
so that it will play on my Mac or IOS device. Does anyone know what app is best 
for doing this? I have opened the .mp4 files in Amadeus pro, but they don’t 
always work properly. Sometimes it does not get the whole file.

Thanks for any help you might have.

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Re: Items in my folders display in reverse order or jumbled

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> I’m not sure what you mean by the window with all the folders. Is there a way 
> to make my view options save as the default options. I seem to have done this 
> before, but can’t seem to now.

Thanks for all of the help.

Kristeen

> On May 21, 2019, at 4:08 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> You may also wish to check in the Header for the view.  When in the window 
> with all the folders, navigate to the Header area, and VO-space on the Name 
> column.  This toggles between sorting in ascending and descending order.
> 
> Later...
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> On May 21, 2019, at 13:33, John Panarese  <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>  I'm assuming you have looked at view options in Finder? There is a group by 
> and sort by popup menus. Make sure the group by, is none, and the sort by, is 
> name. This might differ depending on what actual view preference you have 
> chosen. 
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>> On May 21, 2019, at 3:30 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I recently had to do a clean install on my Mac Mini. No every folder I 
>> reopen is displayed in reverse order or not in order at all. I have sort by 
>> name selected and this has never happened before. What am I missing?
>> 
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Items in my folders display in reverse order or jumbled

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I recently had to do a clean install on my Mac Mini. No every folder I reopen 
is displayed in reverse order or not in order at all. I have sort by name 
selected and this has never happened before. What am I missing?

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Re: Does a mac Mini have to be plugged into a display at all times?

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That should have said monitor. I certainly haven’t used a monster with any of 
my computers. (grin)

Kristeen


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> I haven’t used a monster or a substitute of any kind since 2014. My minis 
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> Kristeen
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>> For Your Information: I bought my Mac Mini in February, 2014; I used it for 
>> at least six months before I bought a video monitor for it.  It worked just 
>> fine, with no don-gal or any such item.
>> 
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Re: Does a mac Mini have to be plugged into a display at all times?

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

I haven’t used a monster or a substitute of any kind since 2014. My minis 
haven’t even seemed to notice.

Kristeen

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