RE: Is there an easy to use app for the Mac that will play radio stations?

[BBS]

Hi. Also, there's Radium which lets you listen to not only regular radio, but 
it also lets you listen to radio from services such as SiriusXM. It's about $15 
though.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Is there an easy to use app for the Mac that will play radio 
stations?


Hello Antonio,

Internet Radio is still in iTunes, but under Music now.
Cheers,

Anne


> On 26 Jan 2018, at 06:51, Antonio Guimaraes  
> wrote:
> 
> A client says she used to have a way to play radio stations from all over the 
> world on her Mac. I suspect this may have been an iTunes feature--one that I 
> seem not to see around any longer. 
> 
> Is there an alternative way to do this with an intuitive interface? My client 
> is new at the Mac and the easier to use the better.
> 
> I'll take any suggestions and evaluate according to her current skill level.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Antonio
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RE: Radium and Siriusxm

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Hi Mike. Try being inactive for at least 2 or 3 hours. You'll see it time out. 
Maybe they stopped that with the native SiriusXM app and website in the US, but 
here in Canada that's still an issue.


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On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: Radium and Siriusxm

I use the native app and the web site all the time and do not have time out 
problems, might be an issue with the connection.
Original message:
> Hey everyone. I'm sending this to multiple lists because this effects 
> everyone. Last night I said to one of the lists that everything seems 
> to be working as normal with Radium and Siriusxm. Well as of this 
> writing it appears that Siriusxm isn't working again. I've emailed 
> Catpig Studios, (supp...@catpigstudios.com) about this and have gotten 
> no response from them. I really hope that Siriusxm hasn't stopped 
> support for Radium or Radium hasn't stopped support for Siriusxm. If 
> this is the case, I'll be cancelling my subscription as I refuse to 
> use either the native Siriusxm app on my phone or the website on my 
> computer because of the timing out thing. We pay for the service so we 
> should be able to listen to it uninterrupted. Also, there is no Alexa 
> skill to listen to Siriusxm Canada. Maybe if someone let me use their 
> account on my Echo Dot that would be cool lol. But seriously, this 
> isn't cool if that's the case. Hopefully it resolves itself.

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RE: connecting to Facebook messenger with Adium is it possible now?

[BBS]

Hi Trey. Development for Adium has been discontinued for a number of years, so 
therefore, you can no longer connect to Facebook with it. I use Trillian for 
Facebook. It's free and very accessible.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Trahern Culver
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 3:40 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: connecting to Facebook messenger with Adium is it possible now?

 

hi all, I've reasontly installed Adium on my Mac again and I'm wondering if its 
possible to connect to Facebook messenger with Adium now because I know a few 
years ago it wasn't if any one can help with this that would be grate respect 
and blessings trey.

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RE: Unlocking my mac from my IPhone

[BBS]

Hi. I know that you can unlock your Mac with an Apple Watch but I don't think 
it's possible to unlock it with the phone.


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Subject: Unlocking my mac from my IPhone

Hello all:

I have both my Iphone and my mac are connected and ready for the hand
off and continuity, so, how can I unlocking my mac from my Iphone?

I can not find the correct way to do this
Thanks


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Roger Going Away

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Hello everyone. I'm sure you've already heard it before, but Roger as of
March 15 is going away. If you want to know more, read their blog.

 

 

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RE: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

[BBS]

Also, forgot to mention this, but I think that ad was misleading. The last 
MacBooks to have DVD drives in them were I think either the 2012 or 2013 
models. Someone can clear that up for me if I'm wrong but 2010 models were 
certainly not the last ones in them to have DVD drives in them.


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On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 7:18 PM
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Subject: RE: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

Yep that would explain why Alex is crashing your computer. It's an issue with 
2010 Macs that needs to be addressed but probably won't be. I would use a 
different voice.


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Subject: Re: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

Hi Shawn,
Thanks for that.  You are correct, it is a mid 2010 laptop.
It runs circles around my mac mini mid 2009 model, so I'm extremely happy with 
it.



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 Original Message 
From: Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Saturday, Dec 17, 2016 10:40 PM EST
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

Hey Chris, if you went to the Apple Menu and About This Mac, you could 
find out what year it's from. I kinda find that odd that a 2012 machine 
would have the Alex issue because it's only 4 years old but who knows. I 
know that 2010 models have this which is why I'm avoiding Alex like the 
plague until Apple fixes him. And I assume that you're running Sierra.2 
so my question about Alex crashing older Macs like mine has been 
answered, and sadly it still is.

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On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email> wrote:

Hi,
I have a Macbook pro 13 inch with 16gb ram and a TB SSHD.  This is the 
one that has the DVD drive on the right side.

I have the latest mac os installed on it.

 From time to time using Alex the speech will just die.  I can still 
move around the screen and hear the VO sound effects.  If I toggle VO 
with command F5 it doesn't come back.  I must press and hold power to 
get the computer up and running again.

Does anyone have any suggestions, maybe if I were to use another voice 
other than Alex?

ChrisI could be in the middle of navigating around and poof, no speech. 
It is random.


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RE: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

[BBS]

Yep that would explain why Alex is crashing your computer. It's an issue with 
2010 Macs that needs to be addressed but probably won't be. I would use a 
different voice.


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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 7:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

Hi Shawn,
Thanks for that.  You are correct, it is a mid 2010 laptop.
It runs circles around my mac mini mid 2009 model, so I'm extremely 
happy with it.



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 Original Message 
From: Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Saturday, Dec 17, 2016 10:40 PM EST
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: VoiceOver losing speech on Macbook

Hey Chris, if you went to the Apple Menu and About This Mac, you could 
find out what year it's from. I kinda find that odd that a 2012 machine 
would have the Alex issue because it's only 4 years old but who knows. I 
know that 2010 models have this which is why I'm avoiding Alex like the 
plague until Apple fixes him. And I assume that you're running Sierra.2 
so my question about Alex crashing older Macs like mine has been 
answered, and sadly it still is.

Shawn
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On Dec 17, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Chris G  wrote:

Hi,
I have a Macbook pro 13 inch with 16gb ram and a TB SSHD.  This is the 
one that has the DVD drive on the right side.

I have the latest mac os installed on it.

 From time to time using Alex the speech will just die.  I can still 
move around the screen and hear the VO sound effects.  If I toggle VO 
with command F5 it doesn't come back.  I must press and hold power to 
get the computer up and running again.

Does anyone have any suggestions, maybe if I were to use another voice 
other than Alex?

ChrisI could be in the middle of navigating around and poof, no speech. 
It is random.


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RE: thoughts on battery after update

[BBS]

Also Donna, did you download my battery status script I posted last night? When 
you install it, you should be able to press Right Option+B to announce the 
battery status.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thoughts on battery after update

 

I haven't made much use of hot spots, but that's a good idea.  I'll give it a 
try.

Cheers,

Donna

On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

 

Actually, though I have not yet installed the update, there is a good chance 
you could set a hot spot on the power dialog and then use VO-Command-HotSpot to 
check the battery level and stay in your current application.

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 



 

On Dec 15, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

 

That's exactly what I plan to do for the time being.
Cheers,
Donna



On Dec 15, 2016, at 3:56 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 Open the Energy preferences and leave focus on the battery charge item which 
reads in percentage. Just switch windows now and then to check it.

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On 12/15/2016 1:47 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:



Don't get me wrong, I'll never defend all the crazy things FS has done.  But 
no, if I'm in a meeting or some other public environment where I'm paying 
attention to other things, I don't want to have to go into applications, then 
into utilities, then Open the Activity Monitor, then bring up the item chooser 
so that I can see the battery level.  That's too many steps for something so 
very basic.  If Apple is really committed to accessibility, information such as 
battery level should be available to me with the same ease that it is available 
to a sighted user.

Cheers,
Donna



On Dec 15, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:

I have to say I think that’s crazy. It’s not like the data isn’t easily 
available.  Sure it’s a step backwards, no disagreement there but easily fixed, 
I’m sure it will be addressed and the data is still available through alternate 
means.  We’re talking about adding an Apple script or using a monitoring tool 
here not having to work around in some crazy cursor mode and click with a mouse 
because the keyboard commands don’t focus correctly or any number of issues you 
run in to on the windows side.  I would agree if there was no access to battery 
level but the fact is there still is and not just in one alternate way but many.

Just stop and think for a half second of all the things Freedom Scientific have 
broken in their history and they are a dedicated accessibility company.  I rest 
my case.




On Dec 15, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Tim,

I certainly wouldn't relish going back to Windows, but for me it would be a 
matter of principle.  Having access to battery information is for me a 
non-negotiable component of portable computing, and if a company thinks that 
blind users should be OK living without that, I'm not OK with them.  This is 
all the more true in the wake of that video that was shown at the last Apple 
event where they touted their commitment to accessibility.  So, I wouldn't want 
to go back to Windows, but I would feel that this decision by Apple flies in 
the face of their own stated values, and leaves me with a computer I'm not 
comfortable trusting when i don't have access to AC.

At any rate, hopefully this will be fixed soon, and so will be  moot point.
Cheers,
Donna



On Dec 15, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

I agree with Donna that it is a step backwards to have something visible to the 
sighted user, but not present to the VO user.  Scott, that's pleasing if 
they're working on it in 10.12.3.  All they really need to do is make the 
indicator announce/display things exactly the same for when the machine is 
using the power adaptor or the battery.  It does announce things just fine in 
10.12.2 if you're plugged in, but it's absent when on battery power.

I wouldn't go quite so far as to purchase a Windows laptop just because of 
this, as there's far too many advantages to my Mac experience to go that 
direction.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 15, 2016, at 13:45, Scott Granados  wrote:

Actually strike that, it’s not quite but it looks like work is being done in 
that area.

Stay tuned it’s at least reporting the charging state but no percentage yet.




On Dec 15, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

RE: OSX 10.12.2 released

[BBS]

Hi guys. A couple things here. I can still get battery percentages with the 
battery status Applescript that I have. If anyone wants it, let me know. 
Second, has anyone running 2010 Macs tried to use Alex? Does he still crash 
Voiceover in this update?


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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released

Did a quick read and it makes sense to me. I really do not believe 
the time remaining on a battery is reliable but that is me.

I am still in update mode. Perhaps the lack of a VO speaking 
percentage is a minor bug? If the image is there then that must be it.

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On 12/14/2016 1:13 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Tim between you and me, I think that’s weak sauce.
>
> I knew the time remaining wasn’t hugely accurate but this seems like
> Apple dumbing down their product because users can’t think straight.  I
> don’t like that.  Should be a toggled deal.  But that’s me.
>
>
>
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> The original link had a typo in it.  Here's what I've found:
>>
>> http://www.loopinsight.com/2016/12/13/macos-sierra-10-12-2-released/
>>
>> Again, it appears that there's still an image of the percentage, but
>> VO isn't able to announce that as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 13:59, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>>
>> WHat’s the reason?  DO you have a pointer to the article?
>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:58 PM, matthew dyer
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>>
>>> This is by design.  I read about it earlyer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/14/2016 11:58 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,

 One thing of note, it appears that the Battery Menu Extras item has
 lost the ability to announce the current Battery level.  That is, as
 you move across the Menu Extras, the current battery level, or time
 until charged used to be announced.  This is no longer the case for me.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Dec 14, 2016, at 09:53, Scott Granados > wrote:

 I noticed the same thing but it was incremental for me as I was
 updating with each beta.  It seems like a pretty substantial update
 in size and as you mentioned firmware as well.

 Might blow out the install and do a clean 10.12.2 install although
 so far it’s responding beautifully.

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Got it up here in the Great White Frozen North at about 2:00-ish
> MST.  There must be some updates to firmware and other base
> operations as I got the solid tone and about six restarts before it
> finished the process.  All seems to be running smooth after the update.
>
> Later..
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 09:47, Kliphton Miller  > wrote:
>
> Yup, was released yesterday afternoon about 1 EST
>> On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Scott Granados
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I was able to download 10.12.2 this morning, looks to be a public
>> release.  Enjoying it so far and find the initial stability issues
>> from the beta have been worked out.  Update em if you got em.
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RE: Authentication panel keeps popping up in the latest Sierra OS

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Hi. The authentication message gets spoken when the screen goes to sleep. This 
is why I set my energy saver preferences to put the screen to sleep after 10 
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What specifically triggers these dialogs? I have seen them as well but at 
the moment, I cannot replicate it.

It does little good to report things without more detail.

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On 11/5/2016 6:23 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
> My MacBook air running the latest Sierra OS keeps coming up with a 
> "authentication panel", but when I check for it with the window 
> chooser no such screen exists. Seem to remember hearing something 
> about this behavior on the list in the recent past. Anybody know 
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RE: Mc Os 10.12 questions.

[BBS]

Are you using Alex by any chance? If you recall my last message about this 
issue, it only happens for me if I use Alex as my Voiceover voice. It's strange 
that Macs 2011 and up don't have this issue but it's really disconcerting that 
the 2010's do and I really hope Apple fixes this right away. In the meantime, 
use one of the Nuance voices if you have them. They never crash Voiceover and 
if you don't have one and need help installing one I can guide you through how 
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Subject: Mc Os 10.12 questions.

Ok, I just updated to the latest version of Mac OS 10.12 Now here is 
what is happening everytime I walk away from my Macbook mid 2010 white 
pollycarbon I will come back and Voiceover has totally stopped working, 
I did the upgrade from the prior version of OSX 10.11 I know at least 
one person on the list that has the same macbook I have and they haven't 
had any problems.

What is going on here with my set up on my macbook? and how can i fix 
this because I am really growing to love the Mac and would love to 
continue working with the operating system and Macbook. Please advise me 
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RE: Youtube on the Mac

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Hi. There's also Youview. It's very accessible and you don't have to pay to 
convert videos.


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Josh,
Thanks. I will check this out as they offer a free trial. Looked at the 
site and it looks to be a no brainer.

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On 9/16/2016 3:08 AM, Joshua Tubbs wrote:
> I highly recommend Downie video downloader for this. Does all that in one 
> app, including conversion.
>
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 10:06 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>
>>   On occasion I will download a video on my Windows then send it to the Mac 
>> and covert it.
>>
>>   Is there a similar process for this on the Mac?
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RE: Alex Voice?

[BBS]

Yeah a friend of mine just downloaded it on her Apple TV.

 

 

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Subject: Alex Voice?

 

Hey's, anyone noticed that Alex is now available, along with Fred on the Apple 
TV4 with TVOS 10?  I thought that was really cool!  I meant to mention that 
earlier, and totally forgot.

 

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RE: Apple's iOS 10 update goes wrong on some iPhones

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Apple says that the issue is fixed so this is old news.


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http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/~/196359440/0/usatoday-techtopstories~Apples-iOS-update-goes-wrong-on-some-iPhones/s


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RE: IOS 10 release

[BBS]

Hi Jessica. Usually they don't send out updates until about noon my time which 
would be 1 your time if you live in the eastern time zone.

 

 

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On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 release

 

>From something I found Via a google search yesterday, it supposedly was 
>scheduled to be released today, and is compatible with the IPhone 5 and up, 
>but the update hasn’t come my way yet.  Has anyone else gotten it yet?

On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:58 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

 

Yeah looks like it might be.

 

It’s not the prod release otherwise my ipod would be wanting to update.

 

Just the way it was being prompted on the software update

Wasn’t clear what it was other than a ver 10 update,.

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 10:38 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS 10 release

 

Is it the gold master? The update is not yet available as I do not have a beta 
account.

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On 12/09/2016, at 10:16 PM, Simon Fogarty <  
si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Morning all,

 

I know that this isn’t meant to happen until the 13th,

 

But I’ve just had a look at something on my iPad 4 mini and while in general / 
settings opened software updates to find an update of IOS 10 waiting for 
install.

 

I have been Public beta testing but this gives a list of a number of new IOS 10 
features

 

And it is not being refered to as part of the beta installs.

 

Anyone know if there has been an early release to people, or is this an 
addition to the beta releases?

 

‘ I believe it was version 10.0.1.14 A or something along that line under about 
this phone.

 

Cheers,

 

 

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RE: Mac book recommendation please

[BBS]

Hi Pete. Which Mac do you have? I read in an article that had the system 
requirements of Sierra that MacBook models starting from mid 2009 will be able 
to run it. That's good for me because mine is a mid 2010 and I'll be able to 
use Sierra.


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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Pete Nalda
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 4:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please

Yeah, I have a late 2009, and it will not run Sierra. So, oh well :/

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Jun 29, 2016, at 1:21 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes and my 2011 Macbook Pro will also run Sierra.
>> On 29 Jun 2016, at 18:47, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> Oops! El Capitan is the current OS. I meant to say that 2012 mbp will run 
>> Sierra. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That 2012 MacBook Pro will run El Capitan Jfyi. 
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
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>>> 
 On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Andy  wrote:
 
 Hi Simon.
 
 I've had loads of helpful advice from this list today and yes, you are 
 right.  I'm going to telephone the Apple Store in Glasgow tomorrow and see 
 what they may have in refurnished equipment.
 
 I've had so much good advice that it's very difficult.
 
 The guy who gave me the one day training in Glasgow, had a Macbook, which 
 had a CD rom on the right hand side.  It was perhaps an older machine and 
 the keys were lovely and I really liked that particular computer.
 
 I think it was a Macbook pro of 2012-14 era yet I was assured by my 
 trainer that it had never caused him any problems in all of that time.
 
 I'd like to identify that model, but failing that, it's looking like a 
 second hand Macbook Air.
 
 Very best wishes.
 Andy.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Simon Fogarty
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:50 AM
 Subject: RE: Mac book recommendation please
 
 Andy,
 
 The refurbished devices are a great option,
 
 With one year apple warrenty so you should be covered and the products 
 have all been cleaned up and checked to make sure they are up to scratch 
 regarding apples quality assurance standards.
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:43 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please
 
 Hi Scott.
 
 This is exactly the kind of information I've been seeking for some days 
 now with no luck.  You've gave me a bit to ponder but I'm very atracted to 
 the Macbook Air 13 inch with the better keyboard at this time.
 See.  Now we are getting somewhare.  It's easy for me now to get my mate 
 to search on Ebay, though a re-furnished model from the Apple Store may 
 very well be worth considering.  So a phone call tomorrow is on the cards 
 and who knows, I may be able to go for my first training session after 
 next week?
 
 
 Very best wishes.
 Andy.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Granados
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:09 AM
 Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please
 
 Hi Andy, ah that clears it up then.  I thought from the original post you 
 just needed the laptop for a one time use for training. 
 
 There’s a lot of ways to go.
 
 
 The air is the thinnest model.  It has a real keyboard with discrete keys. 
  The spread between the keys is surprisingly good especially for the size. 
  I’d go with the larger 13 inch model for more hand room.
 
 Let me try to clear up some of the confusion on the different models.
 
 The Macbook is the least powerful version.  It uses a mobile processor and 
 probably isn’t for you in that it is very under powered.  I’m not sure 
 what Apple was thinking market wise with this device but if I were you I’d 
 skip it.
 
 The Air 

RE: I can't figure out Roger for iOS, really! could use your help!

[BBS]

Hi Chris. Sorry I’m late to reply to this message. I can’t answer your last 
three questions because I’ve never been in a group on Roger or have tried Zelo, 
but I can answer your first question. Near the bottom of the screen, you should 
see all the conversations you’re in with your contacts. To do things with a 
conversation or contact, double tap and hold on the conversation/contact and 
you should get a pop up menu. Double tap on more and it’ll present you with 
another menu. There you can do things like block the contact, hide the 
conversation or mute notifications. Come to think of it, you could probably do 
the same thing in groups, but like I said, I’m not on any groups so I could be 
wrong.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 9:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: I can't figure out Roger for iOS, really! could use your help!

 

So, a friend of mine sent me an invite to try out Roger.

 

So, I got it installed, and boy am I thoroughly confused!  This interface, 
unless I'm not getting something, is a freaking mess!

 

1.  After telling it I want to talk to friends, I then was able to add my 
friend to the chat.  I accidentally added another friend though.  How in the 
world do I get a list of who all is added to the chat, and how do I delete 
people I've added?

 

2.  Let's say that I create another group then add totally different people to 
it?  How then do I flip flot between the different groups I've added?

 

3.  Let's say I either create, or join a group, and I no longer want to be a 
part of that group.  how do I leave the group, or if it's one I've created, how 
do I totally delete the group altogether?

 

4.  Why in God's name would this app be better than Zello?  On Zello, you have 
groups.  They're called channels, and yes, if you create the channel, you have 
full moderator priveledges, and can even assign other users as mods, or as full 
on admins.  Plus, the UI of Zello is way less confusing, and way more user 
friendly.  Plus, selecting contacts to chat with, accepting their add requests, 
sending add requests, etc. is far far easier.

 

In conclusion, I know lots of people are now on Roger, even those in the blind 
community, but really guys, what is so great about Roger?  I'm not doubting 
it's an OK app to use, but I just don't understand the hyfe of why so many 
insist on using it over using Zello.  Zello is cross platformed, so you can use 
it on iOS, or, if you need to talk to someone using Android, no big deal, and 
though I won't say much on this note due to it being off topic, I will at least 
say it works beautifully! and I do mean, beautifully! with Talkback, Sine, and 
Spiel, all 3 with Android, as far back as Ice Cream Sandwitch 4.0 all the way 
now up to 6.0 Marshmallow.  I've even heard of people, though I've been 
unsuccessful, who installed JAWS scripts, and got it working on their desktop 
running Windows.

 

So, yeah, truly, Zello's a beautiful thing.  I'm willing to have an open mind 
about Roger, but you guys are really gonna have to do a lotta convincing.

 

Chris.

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RE: Some questions related to Mac with Voice over

[BBS]

Hi Ramy. I'm one of those people that Scott is talking about that offers 
training on how to use your Mac. My contact info is below if you want my 
services. I can either be paid for it or I can teach you for free, it's up to 
you. Either way, I guaranty you won't be disappointed. I can also do the 
training through Skype or Facetime, whatever you're comfortable with. Hope to 
hear from you soon.


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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:19 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some questions related to Mac with Voice over

Hi Ramy, congratulations on completing your masters.


Tim has already given you the answer to your windowing question and I wanted to 
point you at some good resources to answer the rest of your questions.

First, you made a good move joining this list.  There’s a lot of great talented 
users on this list.
Next I’d like to suggest the Mac for the Blind option.  I believe the site has 
tutorials and John P the lead on that site I believe also teaches apple skills 
so you may wish to head in that direction.
Next, AppleVis is a great resource.  Lots of good articles, podcasts 
and resources.  Would suggest highly that site.

I believe others like Chris Gilland on list and others also provide training so 
maybe they will pipe up.
Ann Robinson (I hope I got her name right) on list has some good 
publications, one I know of conserning pages so that’s another resource.
On Blind Cool Tech Mike Erigo who is also on this list at one point had 
some great introductory podcasts on voiceover as well as VM Fusion.

Hope that gets you started.
 

On 6/27/16, 11:08 AM, "Ramy Moustafa"  wrote:

Hello all:
after finishing my master, i decided to use my mac in all my life.
so, i'm some times facing issues that i need your help:
1- if i need to open more than 1 window to move bitween or copy
somethings, Command accent   doesn't move me bitween windows, i can
use the command tap, it can move me bitween windows but not the windows that is 
in 1 finder.
what i mean is that if i need to copy somethign  from my flash drive to my HD, 
i must close the flash drive and open my hd to copy, can't i open teh 2  
windows in the same time?
2- o copy something and i went to my hd, it was mac formatted, but i can't 
paste, control V can not paste in the flder that i need to paste in.
can you give me solutions please?
and if you can suggest me a helpful tutorial but quick that can teach me how to 
use mach with voice over?

Thanks


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RE: Facebook app for the Mac

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Hi Christine. If you want a simple contact list to chat with people on 
Facebook, I recommend Trillian. The latest version which is 3.4.5 is accessible 
with Voiceover.


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On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 5:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook app for the Mac

Try using full Facebook in groups mode with quicknav off. Try using j and k t 
navigate your timeline.  

I can't test right now power outage. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
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> Facebook on Safari is just so very bad, at least it is for me. Is there an 
> app that can make it better, or am I doing something wrong that someone can 
> advise me on?
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RE: adjusting ios voices like one can on the mac?

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Hi Karen. No, you still can't change tone and what not but there are several
male voices you can choose from including Alex.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 12:58 PM
To: list voiceover
Subject: adjusting ios voices like one can on the mac?

Hi folks,
I may be about to obtain an iphone 5s.
One major major factor preventing me from managing an ios device before is
what Apple illustrated in person.  that you can speed up and slow down
voices, but you cannot adjust for tone and the  like as one can on a mac.
Has this changed?  if not, how many male voices does one have to choose from
with the edition of ios supported on this phone?
I am hoping there are more options, perhaps letting me get closer to
physical comfort enough for the times I will be using the phone.
Thanks for your wisdom,
Kare


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RE: Answering a call on the mac

[BBS]

Additionally, make sure that you allow cellular calls on both your Mac and 
iPhone. Once you do that, you should be good to go.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:20 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Answering a call on the mac

 

You need to sign in to iCloud using your ID and then make sure your face time  
is on.  Also make sure you have a valid e-mail or phone number associated with 
your Face Time.  As you have done the configuration in your IOS then it should 
work on your Mac.

 

Please anyone correct me if I have missed any steps.

 

Hope this is helpful.

 

Kawal.

On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:43, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi all! Can anyone tell me the steps in how can I configure my Mac to receive 
Face time and if possible skype calls? I already have it configure in my iPod 
touch, iPhone 6S,and on th e iPad that my school lend me for. This semester in 
ordr to receive those kind of calls! Or is that already set on my Mac and I 
don't it guys?  I'm just owndering!  I will really appreciate it a lot if 
anyone her can offer me any help with this matter! I look forward in hearing 
from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

 

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Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.

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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 

Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.2.1  


On Mar 13, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

You can answer any call using the Mac that is if you configure all your devices 
to pick up the calls meaning make sure your Mac, iPhone is answering face time 
calls (I.e. turn face time on).  Any call comes in is a face time call on the 
Mac.

 

In the Notification centre, I have my face time preference as alert so it 
brings up an notification to tell me that I can answer or decline the call.

 

Hope this is helpful and not too complicated for all the new mac users.  I’d 
like to welcome anyone new to this list, I unfortunately can’t always answer 
the questions on this list, due to work commitments, but wish I could 
contribute more than I am doing.

 

Thanks.

 

Kawal.

On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:29, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi. If you configure both your iPhone and your Mac correctly, you can have your 
Mac answer and make phone calls with Facetime.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering a call on the mac

 

What types of calls can be answered on the mac?

 

Marie Lyons

On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu < <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> 
kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

I just used right arrow and where it says accept button would press VO space.  
Never have I pressed enter.   Has that changed?

 

Kawal.

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bennnyconstant...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi All , is there a keyboard command for answering a call on  the mac ?  I 
recall that I used to use Enter or space , but that doesn't work anymore .   

 

Thanks , Ben C.  

 

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RE: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?

[BBS]

Actually, Jaguar was either 10.2 or 10.1. Can somebody that has used a Mac 
longer than I have chime in here?


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?

Think they forgot “Jaguar,” “lynx,” “bobbcat,” and that may be it after that 
lol.
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah,pantha tiger, lion, mountain goat, snow leopard,
> 
> I think they ran out of cat types.
> 
> Guess there are only a surtain number of names they can use.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2016 10:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?
> 
> A few years ago they were about cats.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thought the OS names were all about Californian landmarks?
>> 
>> Last time I checked Fuji was Japanese!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2016 10:01 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?
>> 
>> That's the rumored name of the next OS.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:00 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So folks, what is Fuji?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2016 8:43 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah. So will I. I'll probably be one of the first ones to spring for 
>>> the public beta once it's released. And if our Macs can handle Fuji, I hope 
>>> we'll get to use Siri.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
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>>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:38 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, got news for yuh, Aaron is already on the iPHone.  Under the default 
>>>> dialect, you’d click on what Apple calls the “male Siri” voice.  Actually, 
>>>> that’s the newer Siri voice we got back with IOS8 but many of us thought 
>>>> it was strictly server side until a jail breaker discovered that in fact 
>>>> the voice was on the phone itself.  It wasn’t until we got in to IOS9 that 
>>>> the Siri voices (the newer ones I mean) were made available for Voice 
>>>> Over.  So, Looks like both you and I might have to spring for new Macs: 
>>>> that is, unless I really really want to try pushing this mid 2009 Mac book 
>>>> pro in to the realm of Foji.  And you know what?  I might just attempt it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>> blind built-in
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, 
>>>> Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:01 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I heard something similar to that extent from a friend. I heard that 
>>>>> Nuance was developing new voices for the Mac. One was called Zoey and the 
>>>>> other was called Aaron. That would be cool if the rumors were true. I 
>>>>> just hope that older Macs will be able to handle Fuji. A friend of mine 
>>>>> said that me upgrading to El Capitan on this thing was pushing it and 
>>>>> that I should've stayed on Yosemite. So I won

RE: Answering a call on the mac

[BBS]

Hi. If you configure both your iPhone and your Mac correctly, you can have your 
Mac answer and make phone calls with Facetime.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Answering a call on the mac

 

What types of calls can be answered on the mac?

 

Marie Lyons

On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

 

I just used right arrow and where it says accept button would press VO space.  
Never have I pressed enter.   Has that changed?

 

Kawal.

On 12 Mar 2016, at 14:11, N2KPV  wrote:

 

Hi All , is there a keyboard command for answering a call on  the mac ?  I 
recall that I used to use Enter or space , but that doesn't work anymore .   

 

Thanks , Ben C.  

 

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RE: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?

[BBS]

I heard something similar to that extent from a friend. I heard that Nuance was 
developing new voices for the Mac. One was called Zoey and the other was called 
Aaron. That would be cool if the rumors were true. I just hope that older Macs 
will be able to handle Fuji. A friend of mine said that me upgrading to El 
Capitan on this thing was pushing it and that I should've stayed on Yosemite. 
So I wonder if this thing will be able to handle Fuji? If not, I guess I'll 
have to save up for a new Mac.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:10 PM
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Subject: could Siri's iPhone voices finally be coming to the Mac?

While this article doesn’t say anything about the voices for Siri that we use 
on the iPHone such as Aaron and some of the other new voices we like there, I 
kind of wonder if at long last we might be seeing these new voices come to the 
Mac in the fall.  

http://9to5mac.com/2016/02/24/apple-siri-osx-10-12-2016/


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RE: Understanding the VMware concepts with windows

[BBS]

This is one of the instances why I prefer Bootcamp over VMWare Fusion. I only 
have 4 gigs of ram in my system too so rather than putting up with slowness, I 
use Bootcamp and Windows 10 runs a heck of a lot faster than it did with 
Fusion. The only down side is you need sighted help to install Windows with 
Bootcamp but once it’s done, you’re all set.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding the VMware concepts with windows

 

Hi Simon. This is Helga! So you will recommend me to a bigger Mac computer 
right? I really want to have computer that allow me to run windows and OS10 at 
teh same time! Wihtout closing one andopening one. Is not possible to upgrad to 
a bigger Macbook if I already bought mine right? Just owondering!I really want 
to have both screen readrs! For school purpose guys! I look forward inhearing 
form you soon! Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

 

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Sent from my iPhone 


On Mar 3, 2016, at 5:16 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

No, from my own point of view, you really don't want to try running a vm and 
host OS on only 4 gb of memory.

I wouldn't try running windows on less than 4 GB infact I have 4 for each of my 
windows 8 vm's but only run one at a time so the host has 4 gb also.

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2016 12:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding the VMware concepts with windows

   4 gigs sounds typical but you can verify that in OS X by selecting About 
this Mac from the Apple menu.

   If 4 is enough to run both OS X and Windows, I have no idea. I also have no 
idea how many windows can be open at one time but there has to be a limit 
somewhere.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/2/2016 3:05 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote:



Hi E.T. where i ca check  how much memory I have in my Mac in ordr to 

open windows and Os10 at the same time? I'm must owndeirng! I actually 

ahve a Macbook Air 11 inches,and I have 4 gigs on it, is that wrong in 

ordr to have two screeen readrs? Just wndering! I look forward in 

hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!!

 

Helga Schreiber

 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 

Blind Students.

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px

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whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 

3:16 Sent from my iPhone

 

On Mar 2, 2016, at 5:22 PM, E.T. > wrote:

 

 In Windows, yes. But as I said, if you cannot open more than one, 

you might be short on memory.

 

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...

ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 

true?

 

On 3/2/2016 2:16 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

ok, but can i open more than 1 window at a time?

 

On 3/2/16, E.T. > wrote:

   How much memory does your Mac have? You need to split that 

between OS X and Windows. You do this in VMware settings. I added 

memory and have 16gigs and split that evenly between OS X and Windows, works ok.

 

   When you run both aat the same time, both are using/sharing 

resources.

 

   You can leave VO as is.

 

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...

ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What 

RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[BBS]

No it’s $4.00.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of d.pra...@me.com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 10:22 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

Is Growl free nowadays?

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> .
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:18 PM -0800, "BBS" <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

Do you have Growl installed? If you have Growl installed, it’ll read incoming 
messages automatically.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of d.pra...@me.com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 8:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

I finally got the accounts online, and it works well enough, but is there a way 
to get it to auto-read incoming messages?

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> .
Devin Prater
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:03 PM -0800, "Grant" <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:

You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.


Grant 

 

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

 

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.

 

Chris.

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RE: Trillian 3.4 has been released

[BBS]

Do you have Growl installed? If you have Growl installed, it’ll read incoming 
messages automatically.

 

 

Shawn

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of d.pra...@me.com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 8:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trillian 3.4 has been released

 

I finally got the accounts online, and it works well enough, but is there a way 
to get it to auto-read incoming messages?

Sent from Outlook Mobile  .
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com

 





On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:03 PM -0800, "Grant"  wrote:

You do, alas, need a Trillian account. But you can sign up from within the app, 
and if you have multiple devices it’ll sync your accounts between them; so it 
does have some usefulness.


Grant 

 

On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

 

I'm trying to remember.  I actually have a friend who wants to get started 
using Trillian, but don't you have to get an account on the Trillion web site?  
I don't remember how that worked, as it's been ages since I set mine up.

 

Chris.

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RE: getting trillian working on jabba chat server!

[BBS]

Hi Simon. I’m not familiar with the iPhone client for Trillian but you need to 
make a Trillian account before you can add any additional accounts.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: getting trillian working on jabba chat server!

 

Hi List,

 

I’m trying to setup trillian to work with a chat server at work.

 

It’s a linux based server using a chat system using the jabba protocol.

 

So It’s got nothing to do with the Trillian chat services at all.

 

What I’ve got at the moment is the iPhone trillian client and I can’t figure 
out how to connect to the chat server or change the port to what we have the 
system set for 

 

Is trillian able to run as a chat client for a non trillian service and if so 
how?

 

Any assistance here would be appreciated.

 

I’m needing a client that will work on multiple platforms and be accessible to 
me.

 

Thanks for any help if you can assist.

 

 

Simon f

 

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RE: Have lost alex on iPhone 5S

[BBS]

Hi Stacy. Try setting your rotor to language and flick up or down. Is he in 
there?

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 11:44 AM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Have lost alex on iPhone 5S

 

Hi all,

Alex seems to have disappeared on my iPhone.

I was trying out a female voice and decided to go back to alex.

It says this voice is selected but the female voice has taken over my phone.

How do I get Alex back?

 

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.



mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

 

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RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[BBS]

Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as well. 
www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/.

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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 7:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

Where are you finding this?  I've done google searches for it, and the latest 
I've been able to find is 3.3, which I tried after the older version still 
refuses to show my contacts as being on line, and the 3.3 version is just as 
useless.
On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:12 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

> No, it's not the old version. This is 3.4 that he gave me.
> 
> 
> Shawn
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> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 1:09 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Are you talking about the old version that was brought up about a week ago? I 
> got that one up and running, but can't find that option anywhere.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 11:38 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email 
>> address? I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it 
>> as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:47 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>> 
>> Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why 
>>> that isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which 
>>> fixes the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but 
>>> I have it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>>> 
>>> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
>>> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
>>> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain 
>>> in the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  
>>> Is there any way to hide my off line contacts?
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RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[BBS]

No, it's not the old version. This is 3.4 that he gave me.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 1:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

Are you talking about the old version that was brought up about a week ago? I 
got that one up and running, but can't find that option anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 11:38 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email 
> address? I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it as 
> well.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:47 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that 
>> isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes 
>> the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have 
>> it.
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>> 
>> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
>> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
>> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain 
>> in the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  
>> Is there any way to hide my off line contacts?
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RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[BBS]

Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email address? 
I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it as well.


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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that 
> isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes 
> the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have 
> it.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain in 
> the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  Is 
> there any way to hide my off line contacts?
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RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[BBS]

Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that 
isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes the 
accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have it.


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Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on facebook, 
which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain in the neck to 
deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  Is there any way to 
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RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

[BBS]

What happens when you press the function key along with VO+F8? Does it open the 
Voiceover utility?


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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Marie Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

V/O F8 doesn’t do anything on my computer. Well since then I wound up with 3 
different voices. Alex reads the message but Victoria and Fred seem to make the 
announcements.  I don’t like this.  I have no idea why I can’t fix it.

Marie Lyons
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, CJ Daniel  wrote:
> 
> Marie,
> 
> Press VO-F8 to launch the VO Utility.  VO-Shift-DownArrow on the Category 
> table.  Arrow to the Speech option.  VO-Shift-UpArrow to stop interacting & 
> move right to the voice options.  Press VO-SpaceBar to select it.  Down Arrow 
> to the Configure option.  Pick any other voice than Alex, Bruce, or Fred.  
> Wait for it to download & then select it.  That’ll do it.
> 
> You see there’s an ass on the list, who has figured out a string of text 
> that, when inserted into the subject line of an email, causes Alex to shut 
> down.  It’s real cute.  I hope he reaps what he’s sown.  
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>> My v/o keeps shutting down.  What can I do to fix it?
>> 
>> Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure 
>> it out.  Help greatly appreciated
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
>>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to 
>>> shut down the Alex screen reader this morning.
>>> 
>>> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and 
>>> recognized it as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V 
>>> iPhone list, for posting offensive language.
>>> 
>>> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in 
>>> the members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts 
>>> continued to come to the list.
>>> 
>>> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning 
>>> home about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and 
>>> first, change his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list.
>>> 
>>> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen 
>>> in any groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through 
>>> but I think I located the right address.  Only time will tell.
>>> 
>>> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and 
>>> am doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances.
>>> 
>>> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech 
>>> synthesizer, as well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this 
>>> groups, I had to use my Windows computer with a non-mac screen 
>>> reader to discover the source of the problem.
>>> 
>>> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get 
>>> through it.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Good News From Trillian Developers

[BBS]

Ok well if you want I can give it to you through Skype.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

All I did was downlode the file from the link provided, so have no idea what to 
make of that, unless there were more than one file.

On Feb 16, 2016, at 12:50 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:





You must be doing something wrong because Trillian 3.2 has been installed here. 
If you want, you can add me to Skype and I’ll send you the file if that’s 
easier for you. Details are below.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:  <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

I downloded that one as well, and it said the same thing.

On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk < <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> 
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:






Ok try this link.  
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0> 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime:  <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Jessica Moss < <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I've downloaded this, but all it gives me is a folder full of files that have a 
bunch of strange extensions, and text files, but no applications to run; has 
anyone else had this issue?

On Feb 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Shawn Krasniuk < <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> 
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:






Hi Sharon. Trillian is an instant messaging client that lets you connect to 
multiple chat accounts such as Facebook Chat and Aim.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime:  <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sharon Hooley < <mailto:shoole...@gmail.com> 
shoole...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

What is Trillian, anyway?

 

Thanks,

 

Curious 

Sharon H.


On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jessica Moss < <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh wonderful, thanx for the info on this.

On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland < 
<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:






Oh man!  This is wonderful!  Thank you.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message -

From:  <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> Shawn Krasniuk

To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:22 PM

Subject: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

Hi all. I just received an email from Kevin at Trillian. He says that they'll 
fix the current accessibility issues that are present in the current release of 
the app in version 3.4. In the meantime, for those of you that don't have a 
time machine backup of the app which I doubt I have, he has given me a link 
that people can use to download Trillian 3.2. I also have it in my dropbox 
should the link not work anymore. The link that Kevin gave me is  
<http://www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.2/> www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.2/ and the 
dropbox link should this link not work is  
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0> 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

Enjoy!

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime:  <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> bbssh...@icloud.com

 

 

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RE: Hi my name is Dora!

[BBS]

I can give it to you tomorrow. I would tell you to go to the Mac App Store and 
do a search for it, but the version on there isn't accessible. So if you can 
wait until tomorrow, I'll send it through Skype.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dora Speck
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!

Fair enough. :)
Where can I get Trillion?

Dora Speck

[Sent from my iPhone]

> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:22 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, I can't tell you that. Apple has a strict rule when it comes 
> to disclosing new features or bug fixes. I'm afraid you'll have to wait until 
> the next release and find out for yourself.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!
> 
> That's good!
> There's mo way around the lagginess is there?
> 
> Dora Speck
> 
> [Sent from my iPhone]
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:17 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think it was made in 2005 or somewhere around there. As for your question 
>> about downgrading, I've thought of doing that but I've stopped myself. I'm a 
>> beta tester for both El Capitan and iOS 9 so I want to make the experience 
>> better for people, not worse and if I can do that, I'm happy.
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my White MacBook
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:12 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!
>> 
>> Hey there.
>> Nice to meet you Simon, and Thank you all for the welcome messages!
>> When did this group start?
>> 
>> Dora Speck
>> 
>> [Sent from my iPhone]
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dora,
>>> 
>>> Welcome to the list.
>>> 
>>> I'm Simon and I'm from the deep south of the world.
>>> 
>>> New Zealdnd that is.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 5:04 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Hi my name is Dora!
>>> 
>>> Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind 
>>> and single. I hope to make new connections as time goes on.
>>> Thanks. :)
>>> 
>>> Dora Speck
>>> 
>>> [Sent from my iPhone]
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RE: What is Trillian!

[BBS]

Ok well you shouldn’t have any problems there then.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Trillian!

 

We have our own Jabba server setup at work for chat across the campus.

 

It’s only really for me as an accessible chat client to work with it.

So far the best option is iChat but that gets annoying after 5 minutes.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 8:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Trillian!

 

Depends on what the Jabber server you’re trying to connect to is. Facebook 
stopped supporting Jabber last year so the only way to sign in to Facebook with 
Trillian is with the Facebook option itself.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Trillian!

 

Hi Shawn,

 

Thanks for that, it makes lots more sense now.

 

And might have just answered  a question I have at work.

 

Do you know if trillian works with Jabba chat systems?

 

I’m trying to find a Jabba chat client that will work on both Mac os and 
windows 10

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 8:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Trillian!

 

Hi Simon. Trillian is an IM client that lets you connect to multiple chat 
services like AIM and Facebook Chat.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is Trillian!

 

Hi,

 

Could you tell me what Trillian actually is?

 

I’ve not heard of it before?

 

Regards,

 

 

Simon F

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 6:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

You must be doing something wrong because Trillian 3.2 has been installed here. 
If you want, you can add me to Skype and I’ll send you the file if that’s 
easier for you. Details are below.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

I downloded that one as well, and it said the same thing.

On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Ok try this link. 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I've downloaded this, but all it gives me is a folder full of files that have a 
bunch of strange extensions, and text files, but no applications to run; has 
anyone else had this issue?

On Feb 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Sharon. Trillian is an instant messaging client that lets you connect to 
multiple chat accounts such as Facebook Chat and Aim.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

What is Trillian, anyway?

 

Thanks,

 

Curious 

Sharon H.


On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh wonderful, thanx for the info on this.

On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

 

Oh man!  This is wonderful!  Thank you.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message -

From: Shawn 

RE: What is Trillian!

[BBS]

Depends on what the Jabber server you’re trying to connect to is. Facebook 
stopped supporting Jabber last year so the only way to sign in to Facebook with 
Trillian is with the Facebook option itself.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Trillian!

 

Hi Shawn,

 

Thanks for that, it makes lots more sense now.

 

And might have just answered  a question I have at work.

 

Do you know if trillian works with Jabba chat systems?

 

I’m trying to find a Jabba chat client that will work on both Mac os and 
windows 10

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 8:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is Trillian!

 

Hi Simon. Trillian is an IM client that lets you connect to multiple chat 
services like AIM and Facebook Chat.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is Trillian!

 

Hi,

 

Could you tell me what Trillian actually is?

 

I’ve not heard of it before?

 

Regards,

 

 

Simon F

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 6:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

You must be doing something wrong because Trillian 3.2 has been installed here. 
If you want, you can add me to Skype and I’ll send you the file if that’s 
easier for you. Details are below.

 

 

Shawn

Sent from my White MacBook

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

I downloded that one as well, and it said the same thing.

On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Ok try this link. 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I've downloaded this, but all it gives me is a folder full of files that have a 
bunch of strange extensions, and text files, but no applications to run; has 
anyone else had this issue?

On Feb 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Sharon. Trillian is an instant messaging client that lets you connect to 
multiple chat accounts such as Facebook Chat and Aim.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

What is Trillian, anyway?

 

Thanks,

 

Curious 

Sharon H.


On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh wonderful, thanx for the info on this.

On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

 

Oh man!  This is wonderful!  Thank you.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message -

From: Shawn Krasniuk <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> 

To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:22 PM

Subject: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

Hi all. I just received an email from Kevin at Trillian. He says that they'll 
fix the current accessibility issues that are present in the current release of 
the app in version 3.4. In the meantime, for those of you that don't have a 
time machine backup of the app which I doubt I have, he has given me a link 
that people can use to download Trillian 3.2. I also have it in my dropbox 
should the link not work anymore. The link that Kevin gave me is 
www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.2/ and the dropbox link should this link not work is 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

Enjoy!

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

[BBS]

Unfortunately, I can't tell you that. Apple has a strict rule when it comes to 
disclosing new features or bug fixes. I'm afraid you'll have to wait until the 
next release and find out for yourself.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dora Speck
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!

That's good!
There's mo way around the lagginess is there?

Dora Speck

[Sent from my iPhone]

> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:17 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I think it was made in 2005 or somewhere around there. As for your question 
> about downgrading, I've thought of doing that but I've stopped myself. I'm a 
> beta tester for both El Capitan and iOS 9 so I want to make the experience 
> better for people, not worse and if I can do that, I'm happy.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!
> 
> Hey there.
> Nice to meet you Simon, and Thank you all for the welcome messages!
> When did this group start?
> 
> Dora Speck
> 
> [Sent from my iPhone]
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dora,
>> 
>> Welcome to the list.
>> 
>> I'm Simon and I'm from the deep south of the world.
>> 
>> New Zealdnd that is.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 5:04 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Hi my name is Dora!
>> 
>> Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind 
>> and single. I hope to make new connections as time goes on.
>> Thanks. :)
>> 
>> Dora Speck
>> 
>> [Sent from my iPhone]
>> 
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RE: Hi my name is Dora!

[BBS]

I think it was made in 2005 or somewhere around there. As for your question 
about downgrading, I've thought of doing that but I've stopped myself. I'm a 
beta tester for both El Capitan and iOS 9 so I want to make the experience 
better for people, not worse and if I can do that, I'm happy.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dora Speck
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!

Hey there.
Nice to meet you Simon, and Thank you all for the welcome messages!
When did this group start?

Dora Speck

[Sent from my iPhone]

> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dora,
> 
> Welcome to the list.
> 
> I'm Simon and I'm from the deep south of the world.
> 
> New Zealdnd that is.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 5:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hi my name is Dora!
> 
> Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind and 
> single. I hope to make new connections as time goes on.
> Thanks. :)
> 
> Dora Speck
> 
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RE: What is Trillian!

[BBS]

Hi Simon. Trillian is an IM client that lets you connect to multiple chat 
services like AIM and Facebook Chat.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is Trillian!

 

Hi,

 

Could you tell me what Trillian actually is?

 

I’ve not heard of it before?

 

Regards,

 

 

Simon F

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of BBS
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 6:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

You must be doing something wrong because Trillian 3.2 has been installed here. 
If you want, you can add me to Skype and I’ll send you the file if that’s 
easier for you. Details are below.

 

 

Shawn

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Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

I downloded that one as well, and it said the same thing.

On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Ok try this link. 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

 

Shawn

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Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I've downloaded this, but all it gives me is a folder full of files that have a 
bunch of strange extensions, and text files, but no applications to run; has 
anyone else had this issue?

On Feb 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Sharon. Trillian is an instant messaging client that lets you connect to 
multiple chat accounts such as Facebook Chat and Aim.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

What is Trillian, anyway?

 

Thanks,

 

Curious 

Sharon H.


On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh wonderful, thanx for the info on this.

On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

 

Oh man!  This is wonderful!  Thank you.

 

Chris.

 

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To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:22 PM

Subject: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

Hi all. I just received an email from Kevin at Trillian. He says that they'll 
fix the current accessibility issues that are present in the current release of 
the app in version 3.4. In the meantime, for those of you that don't have a 
time machine backup of the app which I doubt I have, he has given me a link 
that people can use to download Trillian 3.2. I also have it in my dropbox 
should the link not work anymore. The link that Kevin gave me is 
www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.2/ and the dropbox link should this link not work is 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

Enjoy!

Shawn

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RE: Hi my name is Dora!

[BBS]

Hi Dora. It's Shawn. Long time no talk. I don't see you on Skype anymore. Did 
you get a new account or something? You can add me again if you like. I 
experienced the issue with that malicious string that guy posted to the list 
too except I was using an Acapela voice. I've reported it to Assistiveware 
already for those who use the voices as well. Anyway Dora, I hope you enjoy 
your time on this list.


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On Behalf Of Dora Speck
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora!

Hi there!
That's nice Where'd you get yours from?
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Dora, I am glad to meet you I have a macbook as well; Mine is a mid 2010 
> white polly carbon running yosemity and I have so far 2 gigs of ram and a 250 
> gig harddrive
> 
> On 2/15/2016 10:03 PM, Dora Speck wrote:
>> Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind 
>> and single. I hope to make new connections as time goes on.
>> Thanks. :)
>> 
>> Dora Speck
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>> [Sent from my iPhone]
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RE: Good News From Trillian Developers

[BBS]

You must be doing something wrong because Trillian 3.2 has been installed here. 
If you want, you can add me to Skype and I’ll send you the file if that’s 
easier for you. Details are below.

 

 

Shawn

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Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

I downloded that one as well, and it said the same thing.

On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:





Ok try this link. 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

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Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

 

I've downloaded this, but all it gives me is a folder full of files that have a 
bunch of strange extensions, and text files, but no applications to run; has 
anyone else had this issue?

On Feb 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:





Hi Sharon. Trillian is an instant messaging client that lets you connect to 
multiple chat accounts such as Facebook Chat and Aim.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:

 

What is Trillian, anyway?

 

Thanks,

 

Curious 

Sharon H.


On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Oh wonderful, thanx for the info on this.

On Feb 8, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:





Oh man!  This is wonderful!  Thank you.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message -

From: Shawn Krasniuk  

To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries  

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 2:22 PM

Subject: Good News From Trillian Developers

 

Hi all. I just received an email from Kevin at Trillian. He says that they'll 
fix the current accessibility issues that are present in the current release of 
the app in version 3.4. In the meantime, for those of you that don't have a 
time machine backup of the app which I doubt I have, he has given me a link 
that people can use to download Trillian 3.2. I also have it in my dropbox 
should the link not work anymore. The link that Kevin gave me is 
www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.2/ and the dropbox link should this link not work is 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0

Enjoy!

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

 

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RE: Help with message are extremely offensive

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Hi Jessica. You'll have to use Tessa or whatever Nuance voice you prefer until 
you finish deleting all that crap that that person sent. There's no other work 
around unfortunately.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

Ok, as an addon, how to semi-fix it, sense Alex still crashes whenever I launch 
mail, so things aren't totally fixed.
On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> I doubt he has a large number of IP addresses at his disposal. To begin with, 
> they would have to answer to a validated NX so far as sending mail is 
> concerned. THis will limit his options a bit. Most ISP's these days won't 
> even allow you to operate a mail server. Also, rather a lot of them also 
> block the usual ports that are often used in spam. It is far easier to hijack 
> someone else's account than it is to bypass firewall redirects. This doesn't 
> mean that its impossible, but it does mean it is far easier to get someone to 
> click on a link in email.
> 
> now, as for security, I can save something questionable to a file, port it 
> over to my linux vmware machine and view it there. if a problem develops, its 
> a simple erase of the vmware files and reinstate the machine from a good 
> clean backup.
> 
> I might just start doing that with my email and browsing activities.
> 
> eric
> 
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Be careful though, as this guy may have a dynamic IP, and this day with 
>> VPN's and such.  And don't say, don't give him any ideas.  Odds are, this 
>> individual probably already knows about this stuff.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Eric Oyen" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Help with message are extremely offensive
>> 
>> 
>> hmmm.
>> well, far be it from me to offer advice. However, I had to dig pretty deep 
>> into how filters work on apple mail in order to get this to work right. 
>> Basically, I found his originating IP address, eliminated the last octet 
>> (last digits after last period), placed a star in there and checked the 
>> function move to mailbox and specified trash.
>> 
>> so far, it seems to work.
>> 
>> btw, there was another kind of message starting to show up around a few (not 
>> many) of the google groups. whatever it is, its either malformed or contains 
>> scripting designed to cause problems on macs. It caused my voiceover screen 
>> reader to lock up, caused both the mail client to crash and any web browsers 
>> I used to also crash. Even viewing the raw source caused issues. I posted a 
>> no subject response to it and removed the offending material. Hopefully, 
>> someone realizes their account has been pawned.(pardon the leet speak there).
>> 
>> anyway, some domains (and IP spaces) are known for this kind of trouble. It 
>> may seem like hard work initially, but the reward is that you never have to 
>> see the problem after that. :)
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Good point Chris. Still, what made me think it might be all of the Google 
>>> groups is the tremendous frequency with which these offensive posts are 
>>> being put up. Then again, considering the fact that I am on to other Google 
>>> groups and this is not happening with them, you have a good point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After all, if memory serves correctly, we had an antagonist a few weeks ago 
>>> who seem to be on the edge of doing this very sort of thing when we all 
>>> demanded specificity from him as to a specific claims that he made 
>>> regarding Firefox and accessibility: a thread which I'm sure you were and I 
>>> remember all too well.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
>>> 
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
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RE: Malicious Email how to get around question

[BBS]

Hi Bryan. The Nuance voices are Samantha, Tom, Ava, those voices. The string 
only effects Alex and other voices but if you use Samantha, you’ll be fine.

 

 

Shawn

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

 

Thanks Sean. How do I know which the nuance voices are, I thought they just had 
the names for the voices. I assume if you are running Alex and the subject of 
the malicious email is read it then knocks out VO? Was this virus written to 
target blind VO users? So bizarre and really evil. Thanks,

On Feb 15, 2016, at 4:00 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Bryan, you can download the Nuance voices to your Mac by going into the VO 
Utility and select ustomize. On the iPhone, as long as you’re not using Alex, 
you should be fine.

 

 

Shawn

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From:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 1:26 PM
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

 

Hey guys,

 

Wow what kind of an whole creates a bug to knock out VoiceOVer that is a whole 
new kind of jerk. I only have the stock voices my mac came with. I read it 
might be easier to get around on the iPhone? Any words of wisdom on how to get 
through this the easiest way with only having stock voices on both IOS and my 
mac? Thanks,

On Feb 15, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Kevin Chao < <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> 
kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Workaround: Use a non-Apple TTS (e.g. Nuamce). 
Unfortunately, VoiceOver will crash (Alex, Fred, etc.) even if message isn't 
open, as offending text is in subject and preview. 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM Brian Fischler < <mailto:brianfisch...@me.com> 
brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Hey all,

Was not around for a few days so just started going through my list mail and 
read about these awful malicious emails taking out VO. I am assuming they are 
further down in the mailbox where all my list mail is. If you do not open the 
email does it affect you? I typically let VO read little of an email before 
opening. If this will knock out VO is there a way to get around these emails as 
I would love to avoid this issue. Thanks so much.

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RE: Malicious Email how to get around question

[BBS]

Bryan, you can download the Nuance voices to your Mac by going into the VO 
Utility and select ustomize. On the iPhone, as long as you’re not using Alex, 
you should be fine.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 1:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

 

Hey guys,

 

Wow what kind of an whole creates a bug to knock out VoiceOVer that is a whole 
new kind of jerk. I only have the stock voices my mac came with. I read it 
might be easier to get around on the iPhone? Any words of wisdom on how to get 
through this the easiest way with only having stock voices on both IOS and my 
mac? Thanks,

On Feb 15, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:

 

Workaround: Use a non-Apple TTS (e.g. Nuamce). 
Unfortunately, VoiceOver will crash (Alex, Fred, etc.) even if message isn't 
open, as offending text is in subject and preview. 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hey all,

Was not around for a few days so just started going through my list mail and 
read about these awful malicious emails taking out VO. I am assuming they are 
further down in the mailbox where all my list mail is. If you do not open the 
email does it affect you? I typically let VO read little of an email before 
opening. If this will knock out VO is there a way to get around these emails as 
I would love to avoid this issue. Thanks so much.

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RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

[BBS]

Hi Anne. Are these French voices you have made by Acapela? I’m about to write a 
report to Assistiveware about this because the voice I was using when the 
hacker attacked the list was an Acapela voice and my Mac was unusable when it 
encountered the message.

Stacy, what happened was somebody typed in the letters E and R in a single 
word. He did this for the entire email and that’s how Voiceover crashed.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

 

Hello George,

 

First of all, the command to open the VO utility is VO-F8. Then, it is not only 
the Alex voice that is affected. I do not have Alex on my Mac! I use Fred and 
quite a few other voices in Various languages. Switching to a French voice did 
not work for me. I had to do a restart to get speech back.

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 15 Feb 2016, at 15:25, Basioli George  wrote:

 

do the following

 

command f8 to open the voice over utilities

in the table inter act and arrow down to speech and stop interactting

v o right errow to the defalt voice pup up menu and it will read alix since 
this is your defalt set voice

v o spacebar on this and arrow down to a new voice and do v o spacebar and the 
defalt voice will change and it will speak in the new choice

 

close the voice over utility

 

how’s that

On Feb 15, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Caitlyn F  wrote:

 

Hi how do you fix this problem doesn't only affect the Alex screenreader my mac 
is completely useless right now and all I have to work with is my iPhone thanks 
a lot Caitlyn

Sent from Caitlyn's I phone


On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Andrew  wrote:

y screen reader stopped talking and I had to force shut the ocmputer.  Yes, we 
are grateful for helping us with this unacdceptale action.  Andrews problem.

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 4:05:24 AM UTC, Chris Gilland wrote:

Mark, 

Don't beat yourself up over this. 

You're doing the best you can, and that is all anyone ever could ask of you. 

On behalf of the whole list, we thank you very very greatly for all you're 
doing! 

Chris. 

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Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:55 PM 
Subject: To The List About The Recent Spam 


> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> I became aware of the offensive emails and the deliberate string to shut 
> down the Alex screen reader this morning. 
> 
> At that time, I looked at the email address of the sender and recognized 
> it 
> as one that I had just banned, last night, from the V iPhone list, for 
> posting offensive language. 
> 
> For whatever reason, when I attempted to locate her/his address in the 
> members list of this group, I could not find it.  Yet, the posts continued 
> to come to the list. 
> 
> I was away from my computer for most of the day but, upon returning home 
> about an hour or so ago, I managed to locate the user and first, change 
> his/her posting privileges and then remove him from the list. 
> 
> To be quite honest, the account I located was unlike any I've seen in any 
> groups.  So, it is possible, more messages will come through but I think I 
> located the right address.  Only time will tell. 
> 
> Please know that I, on behalf of Cara, am paying close attention and am 
> doing all I can to rid the list of such nuisances. 
> 
> For the record, the malicious string shut down my speech synthesizer, as 
> well.  Very, very annoying.  Like others in this groups, I had to use my 
> Windows computer with a non-mac screen reader to discover the source of 
> the 
> problem. 
> 
> Please know that we are in this together and, together, we'll get through 
> it. 
> 
> Mark 
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RE: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for them?

[BBS]

Hi George. I completely agree with you. This thread has gotten off topic and 
feelings have been hurt. If Mark or Cara were reading this, they’d say let’s 
drop this subject. For those who aren’t against piracy, good for you. Keep at 
it. But we all know that it’s against the law. As for Adrian, like I said last 
night, either save $15 for a voice or just stick with Alex or the Vocalizer 
voices. Now let’s save Cara and Mark’s time and drop this thread like adults.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Basioli George
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for them?

 

can we stop this silly stuff now getting tired of deleatting

On Feb 13, 2016, at 13:05 PM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:

 

Alright, in order to keep the piece, I'll drop that subject. No, I'm not 
running away, and I'm not acquiescing to another view point, but I'll agree to 
disagree.

Sent from Outlook Mobile  .
Devin Prater
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On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 12:59 PM -0800, "E.T."  
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The dictionary would also disagree with your definition.
 
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On 2/13/2016 12:53 PM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
> And how does it happen to disagree with /me/? I'd kindly ask you to read
> my message again, because I did not say that I am proposed to piracy, I
> just said that piracy is, in fact, not stealing.
> 
> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 12:51 PM -0800, "Mary Otten"  > wrote:
> 
> Devon,
> The law just happens to disagree with you.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 13, 2016, at 12:30 PM, d.pra...@me.com
>  wrote:
> 
>> Piracy isn't stealing, it's copying. Sure, it's illegal, but it's
>> not stealing, as the original person still has a copy. Stop with
>> the sensational crap and learn, for your own sake. We don't grow
>> in any way by simply spouting out what w've been taught, like a
>> machine. Now onto the voice thing. My question is, why not use the
>> built-in Vocalizer voices? I know, Infovox is new, and people
>> always gravitate to new things, but Vocalizer has pretty much any
>> language one would need. The only glaring omission that there is
>> for me is that there is no Esperanto voice, but guess what?
>> Infovox doesn't have one either. So really, use Vocalizer unless
>> you have no regard for the law. In that case, go ahead and search,
>> fore telling you not to will only further your resolve. Besides
>> that, if the crack didn't exist, iVox wouldn't have a "lost sale"
>> anyways, because you wouldn't have bought it, I'm sure. Now if
>> Infovox has an Esperanto voice, I'd surely shell out some money
>> for that, as no other voice system for the Mac has it.
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
>> Devin Prater
>> d.pra...@me.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 11:25 AM -0800, "Shaf"
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> This is why piracy exists. If developers priced their apps reasonably
>> and didn't have any "3 activations per user" BS, people would be more
>> willing to pay. If a developer who's not filthy rich creates and
>> incredible app at a reasonable price, I'll absolutely support them.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/13/2016 7:06 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> > I don’t need to comment on the ethics of the discussion, since 
>> that has already elicited all the usual fairly predictable responses, but 
>> I’m pretty sure I remember paying more for the Mac voices than for the Doze 
>> ones, so I checked where prices stand now.
>> >
>> > Here are the numbers: to buy all of the Infovox iVox English 
>> voices for the Mac, in one go, and benefiting from the 40% discount for 30 
>> or more voices (total 39 English voices) it would cost me £280.80, which 
>> entitles me to a licence of each voice for one Mac.  On Windows, the same 
>> product is the InfoVox 4 English bundle, which costs £270.00 from Computer 
>> Room Services, who will ship you a physical USB key, that permits 
>> activations on up to 3 Windows boxes.
>> >
>> > So, no.  Alas, we Mac users are, in fact, being ripped off pretty 
>> thoroughly compared to our unfortunate Windows-using friends.  This is, of 
>> course, entirely unsurprising.  I think it’s best to avoid discussing the 
>> price when advocating the Mac platform. :)
>> >
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RE: does any one know if the infovox voices are supported under alcapaton?

[BBS]

No not really. I find them more responsive than the Vocalizer voices.

 

 

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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 10:35 AM
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alcapaton?

 

cool i wish i can get them? are they laggy?

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RE: does any one know how i can get them with out paying for them?

[BBS]

Adrian, I agree with E.T. Besides, there is no crack to get the voices for the 
new Infovox engine which is 4.3 and even if there was, this list forbids that 
kind of thing. Besides, $15 per voice isn't that much money. If you can't save 
$15 for a voice, sorry if this is too harsh but that's kinda sad and you should 
just stick with what Apple gives you.


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i am trying to get the infovox voices to use for the mac and voice over

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RE: VMWare version for latest macbook pro

[BBS]

Tony, do you have Skype? I can help you there and guide you step by step on how 
to configure it with Windows 7. Details are below.


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8.1 is what I got. Will that be ok with Windows 7? 

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VMware Fusion version 8.02.

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RE: Windows 10 Push Goes Up Another Notch

[BBS]

Well I for one love Windows 10. I love the new Eva voice that you can unlock. 
She sounds very human. I think she's the voice that they use for Cortana.


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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
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Subject: Re: Windows 10 Push Goes Up Another Notch

Ah the Evil empire is alive and well.

I like the windows 10 features that make you provide an open WiFi connection 
with out knowing it.:)

That’s just good planning.

lol

> On Feb 3, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> A quick heads-up for Windows users (in VMs or on physical hardware): Windows 
> 10 is now being pushed as a “Recommended” update that is checked by default.
> 
> If you don’t want it, and if it’s not too late, you can uncheck the 
> recommended update in question.  Once installed you download about 3 GB of 
> foistware, and the installation process starts automatically.  If you get to 
> that stage, and still don’t want it, then close the window of the installer.
> 
> Apple are no saints when it comes to this sort of thing, for sure, but this 
> aspect of Microsoft’s latest direction is without doubt the most obnoxious 
> and anti-consumer I can think of.  I don’t want Win10 and never will because 
> of the clear disregard it has for privacy.  JMO, but Apple’s OS upgrades are 
> merely annoying by comparison.
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RE: clean install of El Capatin questions

[BBS]

Hi Sarai. No disrespect intended for Anne, but I don't think a clean install is 
necessary. If you don't have an external drive to back up your stuff through 
time machine, you could lose everything. You should just be able to install El 
Capitan via upgrade. I've done this method for 5 versions of OS X including El 
Capitan and I don't notice anything wrong or out of the ordinary. Although I do 
notice that every time my Mac has to do an update, my fan goes pretty much high 
speed but that's probably because it's showing its age and not an issue with 
the OS itself. But my point is, you should only do a clean install if its 
necessary so an upgrade will suffice for what you want to do.

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Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:36 AM
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Subject: clean install of El Capatin questions

Hi guys:
Someone suggested a clean install of El Capatin to better handle voiceover. 
This makes me cringe! When I tried the clean install of Yosimiti, it was an 
absolute nightmare! I have questions to see if I can make this process less 
painful.
1. How can I make sure all my Dropbox content won’t be deleted from the cloud 
once I install El Capatin after erasing my Mac?
2. How can I restore all of my data from my Mac backup disk using CCC without 
restoring System files?
3. How can I restore Apple mail properly where I do not lose all of my 
subfolders of saved mail, rules, etc?
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RE: El Capatin upgrade

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Hi. If my mid 2010 white MacBook an handle El Capitan, your MacBook Pro can 
too. Probably even better than mine since you have 8 gigs of ram.


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Hi guys:
I have an 8GB MBP 2010 Cor I7 500 macbook pro. Can I upgrade without issues to 
El Capatin?
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RE: questions about VMWARE Fusion

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Hi Sharon. There is no hardware required, all you do is buy the product, 
install whatever operating system you want to use via either DVD or iso file 
and you're all set. And yes, it's still available.


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Hi,

I've never used VMWARE Fusion before, so I have a couple of questions.  Does it 
require some hardware, or can it be downloaded to use just the software?  And 
it's still available, right?

Thanks,




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RE: questions about VMWARE Fusion

[BBS]

Hi Sharon. If you're asking about how you can convert your Bootcamp 
installation of Windows 10 to a VM, I don't know the answer. Maybe someone else 
that has done it in the past can chime in, but if not, Google's your friend.


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Subject: Re: questions about VMWARE Fusion

I already have windows 10 installed on my mac 10, So how do I add it?

Sharon H.

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 6:58 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sharon. There is no hardware required, all you do is buy the product, 
> install whatever operating system you want to use via either DVD or iso file 
> and you're all set. And yes, it's still available.
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've never used VMWARE Fusion before, so I have a couple of questions.  Does 
> it require some hardware, or can it be downloaded to use just the software?  
> And it's still available, right?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
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RE: the app has a web interface

[BBS]

Ah oh well. Like I said before, I'll just stick to Miranda in Windows 10 until 
Trillian gets fixed.


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the app for face book uses a web interface

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RE: I found a accessible fb client for the Mac.

[BBS]

Hi Adrian. Does this app use a web interface or does it just pull up a simple 
contact list? I'm looking for an app that just has the contact list. Let us 
know.


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I found a accessible fb app for the Mac it is called go for face book. It is 
accessible with voice over. And plus it has short cut keys to post a status too 
and the preferences dia log is very accessible

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RE: facebook chat for the mac

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Exactly. Same here. I’m using Miranda NG on my Windows 10 VM until either the 
kind folks at Trillian make their app accessible or another app like Trillian 
comes out.

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:07 AM
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Subject: Re: facebook chat for the mac

 

Wow, that's pretty bad. Ah well, I still have Miranda NG on my XP vm.

Sent from my iPhone


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No it’s not.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:28 PM
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Subject: Re: facebook chat for the mac

 

I'd rather not use simple webpages wrapped in an app. Is Adium still being 
developed?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 27, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

What's the difference between menu tab and menu tab pro?

On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:20 AM, Gerry Cook <gerryc...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:






try menu tab pro or menu tab the pro is $2.99 not bad results 

cheers gerry have a nice day
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On 27 Jan 2016, at 12:44 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Walter. There used to be a good app for Facebook chat on the Mac called 
Trillian but with their recent update they've broken accessibility. I haven't 
checked for updates for a week to see if this is fixed because I've been using 
Miranda on Windows 10 all this time, but I will probably do that soon because 
I'll be going back to the Mac to get ready for my client. I'll report back if 
it's fixed.


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Hello all,
Does anyone know if there is a facebook chat client for the mac?
Walter 

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RE: facebook chat for the mac

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No it’s not.

 

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook chat for the mac

 

I'd rather not use simple webpages wrapped in an app. Is Adium still being 
developed?

Sent from my iPhone


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What's the difference between menu tab and menu tab pro?

On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:20 AM, Gerry Cook <gerryc...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:





try menu tab pro or menu tab the pro is $2.99 not bad results 

cheers gerry have a nice day
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Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

 

On 27 Jan 2016, at 12:44 PM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Walter. There used to be a good app for Facebook chat on the Mac called 
Trillian but with their recent update they've broken accessibility. I haven't 
checked for updates for a week to see if this is fixed because I've been using 
Miranda on Windows 10 all this time, but I will probably do that soon because 
I'll be going back to the Mac to get ready for my client. I'll report back if 
it's fixed.


Shawn
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On Behalf Of Walter Harper
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:06 PM
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Subject: facebook chat for the mac

Hello all,
Does anyone know if there is a facebook chat client for the mac?
Walter 

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RE: VMware fires US dev team behind Workstation and Fusion

[BBS]

Hmmm. I guess that means that we'll have to find Mac developers that would be 
willing to make QuentinC's Playroom available for the Mac for free since 
Aminiel refuses to make one himself. That's one of the reasons I use Windows is 
so I can play those games. Yeah I know about the web client, but if you read my 
post about it in an older thread about why people use Windows, you'll know why 
I dislike it.


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On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMware fires US dev team behind Workstation and Fusion

I still have a virtual machine running Windows 7 on my MacBook air, but I only 
use it for those rare occasions when I need access to a flash player-based 
website. It's really bad when you can't play flash content on a mac system. 
I've run google chrome and Safari, but they can't even see the flash player on 
a certain website that I really need. So, I resurrected my Windows 7 
installation and it works like a charm with Internet explore. 
Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 27, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I guess this means there will be no more upgrades to fusion, I no longer use 
> it as I have no more need for Windows on my home computers, and, honestly, I 
> think since Windows 8, it has really gone down hill. But it was a great 
> product when I used it, and very accessible. There are alternatives, though 
> not very accessible. There's another paid product called parallels but it's 
> not voiceover accessible. Virtual box is free, but also not accessible. Then 
> there's boot camp, but that requires sighted help to get Windows installed. 
> At least more software is now being developed for the mac, so Windows should 
> be needed less on these computers.
>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> We'll have to pester virtualbox to become more accessible, as I just can't 
>> wrap my head around the inner workings of the program to work with its CLI 
>> interface.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I guess I won’t see my feature request for serial ports as sockets 
>>> implemented in Fusion, then. :(
>>> 
>>> This is really sad news.  But of course, I understand it, on a practical, 
>>> realistic level: desktop virtualisation is now something of a fringe 
>>> market, there are free products available and those that compete 
>>> economically and favourably for consumers, and even on the server 
>>> virtualisation is readily available and incorporated as parts of technology 
>>> stacks.  And if VMWare’s products are profitable, it’s only because they’re 
>>> already asking too much.  So who’s going to be too bothered, apart from the 
>>> awesome people behind the technologies, and a bunch of geeks?  Oh yeah, and 
>>> blind Mac users unable to use any of the alternatives?
>>> 
>>> We shall have to see what happens.
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Question From A Client About Voices

[BBS]

Hi guys. I'm writing this message for a client I'm teaching the Mac to.
We're having issues downloading the Nuance voices. She wants to be able to
use Samantha on her Mac like she does on her iPhone. We download it from the
Voiceover utility but when we try to use it, nothing happens. We tried
deleting it from her voices in her library and redownloading it but still it
doesn't want to work. She gave me a link to a podcast of some sort to learn
how to download the voices but I've done it so many times I don't really
need one. Any ideas? Because I'm really stumped at this point. Thanks in
advance.

 

 

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RE: facebook chat for the mac

[BBS]

Hi Walter. There used to be a good app for Facebook chat on the Mac called 
Trillian but with their recent update they've broken accessibility. I haven't 
checked for updates for a week to see if this is fixed because I've been using 
Miranda on Windows 10 all this time, but I will probably do that soon because 
I'll be going back to the Mac to get ready for my client. I'll report back if 
it's fixed.


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On Behalf Of Walter Harper
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Subject: facebook chat for the mac

Hello all,
Does anyone know if there is a facebook chat client for the mac?
Walter 

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RE: Game tonight?

[BBS]

Hey Chris. If I want to watch sports which I rarely do seeing as how I have 
Sirius XM, I go to this website: www.goatd.net. I can find almost anything 
there from sports to even Pay Per View events. It may not work on your Apple TV 
because it uses flash but you can definitely give it a shot on your Mac.


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On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Game tonight?

I’d assume that ESPN Radio’s not available for Apple TV4 though, or is it?

Chris.

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 5:17 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   ESPN Radio or if you have a WFAN affiliate have been the ones covering the 
> radio broadcasts of the playoff games.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> 
>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah,
>> 
>> I’m not aware of anything either, Ben.  Anyway, now I’ve just gotta figure 
>> out what network on the radio down here is coverring it, as I don’t think 
>> WBT will.  Anyway, that’s for a discussion not on this list.  LOL!
>> 
>> GRR!  Go? Panthers!
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 5:09 PM, ben J. Bloomgren  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 I don't know of anything that sort. If they had put tuna in radio on to 
 the Apple TV for, that would be bloody amazing. On Jan 24, 2016, at 13:30, 
 Chris Gilland  wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if there are any apps for my Apple TV 4 that I can get 
 which will be broadcasting the Panthers vs. Cardinals game tonight?  I 
 really don’t care to pay for any type of premium membership.  I’m just 
 wanting to watch this particular game.
 
 Yeah, I could get it on cable, but there’s no cable jack in the room I’m 
 wanting to watch fromm, so there went that idea.
 
 Chris.
 
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RE: How to stop automatic downloads of IOS updates?

[BBS]

Hi Donna. There is no setting to stop iOS updates. However, if your friend 
fills up his or her phone, there wouldn't be any room for the updates to 
download.


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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to stop automatic downloads of IOS updates?

Hi all,

I'm actually posting this for a friend who lives in a rural area.  He has lousy 
internet connectivity, and wants to stop automatic download of IOS system 
updates.  anyone know of a way to do this?  The setting to disable app 
downloads in iTunes?App Store settings only applies to purchased apps, not to 
IOS upgrades. 
thanks,
Donna

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Re: Adding items not running to the dock?

[BBS]

George, instead of keeping it off list, why not start a new thread altogether? 
Intrigued minds such as mine would like to know this as well. I have a VM of 
Windows 10 and it can sometimes get very sluggish and my Mac's fan has to work 
very hard to keep up. This is also the case with a Windows 7 VM I have. I'm 
running the latest El Capitan with Fusion 8 on a mid 2010 white MacBook.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Basioli George 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Adding items not running to the dock?


  hi Keath and all;


  Keath could you please email me off list at


  gbma...@gmail.com


  i really woould like to talk to you about useing v m fusion 8.
  i have the app. but wish to understand how to install and set up to it’s 
optimal functions with a iMac and windows 10 please.


  thanks


  george




On Jan 14, 2016, at 4:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


The practical thing is, you don't have to have a Finder Window opened with 
your applications, therefore it's less screen clutter.  Just pop yourself into 
the dock, open your app of choice, or whatever, and boom.  You're done, nothing 
in the way.

And, you're very close.  It's actually command+ctrl+shift+T.  Don't forget 
that shift key.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anatoliy Popko" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:50 AM
Subject: RE: Adding items not running to the dock?



  Keith,

  Control+Command+t is the shortcut (press when the focus is in Finder on 
the application you need).

  Sidenote: I also haven't really figured out a place for the Doc in my 
user experience. Seems like not much key combinations to save: Command+Shift+a 
+ first letter navigation or VO+d + first letter navigation.

  If anyone has a practical use (not just a habitual user pattern) for the 
Doc, please, share. Actually, the same holds true for the Launchpad.

  -- 
  Best regards,
  Anatoliy D. Popko


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
  Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:21
  To: macvisionaries 
  Subject: Adding items not running to the dock?

  Hi folks,
  I'm curious, but how does somebody go about adding an application that 
might not currently be running to the dock?

  The dock is a feature of OS Ten despite having used OS Ten for over two 
years now that I've never really used.
  Usually, I've always gone in to the applications area and launched an 
application with command-O.
  I'd like to start adding other applications other than Mail, Safari, etc 
to the Dock though for faster access.

  VMware Fusion is an application that I tend to do serious Windows work in 
for quite a lot of things.
  So, how might I go about adding Fusion to the dock for example for faster 
productivity?

  Thanks,
  Keith

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RE: Vocalizer Expressive Compared with JAWS

[BBS]

I like Expressive compared to Vocalizer 5. The way I see it, the more human a 
voice sounds, the more I'll use it. This is probably why my teachers in school 
got me using a braille display because I was too hung up on how voices sounded. 
But then again, It was either Eloquence or LiteTalk.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:48 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Vocalizer Expressive Compared with JAWS

For my amusement, I downloaded all the Nuance Vocaliser voices from Freedom 
Scientific that I normally use with VoiceOver on OS X.  For added fun, I 
downloaded all versions of the voices (standard from RealSpeak Solo and premium 
and premium-high for Vocaliser and Vocaliser Expressive).  From this I 
established a few interesting things:

I enjoyed using Vocaliser Expressive rather more on JAWS than I normally do in 
VoiceOver.  This was a very pleasant surprise.  There is no startup delay, and 
the voice is smooth and doesn’t incorrectly pronounce stray punctuation marks 
while reading text.  I found it more responsive even than Eloquence in my XP 
virtual machine, but not more responsive than the version in OS X.

More significantly, though, the OS X and iOS version of the synthesiser has a 
very strange behaviour of raising the pitch, where the JAWS version doesn’t.  
To illustrate, try comparing JAWS and VoiceOver saying “Notes”.  This I had 
always attributed to the expressive nature of Vocaliser Expressive, thinking 
that the previous version was only of better quality because it didn’t exhibit 
that behaviour.  But now I hear, using JAWS, that Expressive is indeed an 
improvement in several key areas of inflection.

In case you’re wondering, I honestly didn’t see much to shout about in the 
Expressive versions compared to the similar-quality Vocaliser 5 versions.  
Indeed, I wish Apple would offer the lower-quality premium voices as opposed to 
compact.  My Sara unit is still using the standard-quality Realspeak 
technology, and one of the nice things about that is that you don’t have to 
listen too hard to pick out the subtle consonants like Ss.  I’d’ve been just 
fine if Apple had not moved on to the Expressive voices.  However you slice it, 
concatenative synthesis is fundamentally limited by the accuracy of the sound 
samples.

Does anybody have any thoughts?

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RE: Installing Windows 7 under bootcamp without sighted assistance

[BBS]

Hi. I'm confused. Are we installing Windows to the flash drive via Bootcamp or 
are we installing it to the Mac? I've been thinking of going back to Bootcamp 
with Windows 10 because this thing runs terribly slow with it under VMWare 
Fusion. Look forward to your reply.


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Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Installing Windows 7 under bootcamp without sighted assistance

HI Andrew,

Yeah done it a few times, and have windows 10 currently on my mac book air 
under bootcamp.

 I've tried installing it with out assistance but it appears no go at least I 
haven't found a way yet.

It's pretty easy really, run the Boot camp assistant in the Mac OSX and then 
follow the prompts.

All you need now is an ISO of the windows installer package and a USB / flash 
drive with more than 8GIG of available storage 

Once bootcamp finishs what it needs to do the machine restarts in to the 
windows installation the problem we have is that apple / windows drivers are 
not installed until the very last stage of the setup, 


If you have the ISO on your desktop then bootcamp should pick it up without 
problem and you then only need to make sure the flash drive is selected as 
bootcamp writes / downloads the apple windows bootcamp drivers to the flash 
drive.
And then that's where windows is actually installed from.
Oh and the only thing to be aware of is the step that asks you to set the drive 
partition size  by default it only gives you 20GB 

Hope this helps.

Simon F

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Sent: Monday, 4 January 2016 5:42 PM
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Subject: Installing Windows 7 under bootcamp without sighted assistance

Hi,

Has anyone on the list had experience of installing Windows 7 in Bootcamp 
without sighted assistance?  Having looked at the process on Apple's support 
pages, I can see that it is probably not possible.  Also, even if sighted 
assistance is required, would you mind sharing your experience?  Please feel 
free to write off list. I'd appreciate that.

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RE: how to know when the mac has shut down

[BBS]

I don't know what the big deal is. I hardly ever shut down my Mac unless I'm 
taking it with me. It's not gonna hurt it if you leave it on all night.


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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: how to know when the mac has shut down

I think the starup sound is built-in to the bios, the pre-OS environment. I 
don't think we can access that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 26, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> I also wonder if we can assign a sound to the shut down process, sort of like 
> the start up chime?
> 
> Caitlyn
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
>> 
>> Interestingly enough, I can hear a lot of electronic signal, and thus the 
>> lack of it, because I wear a hearing aid and the cochlear implant and can 
>> tune into a certain setting. So I'm wondering if there's a device you can 
>> plug in that can give off those signals so the rest of us can hear it and 
>> thus know that the Mac, and other devices for that matter, is completely 
>> shut down?
>> 
>> 
>> Sharon H.
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could you put a light meter on the Apple logo on the back of the lid? I 
>>> believe that is linked to the backlight in 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn 
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:
 
 Thanks for your answer. So how do I know when the screen is locked?
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
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 Subject: RE: how to know when the mac has shut down
 
 Hello Rhonda,
 
 You ask an excellent question.  
 
 To my knowledge, there is no vibratory or auditory feedback to indicate 
 that the Mac is shutting down.  By the same token, although this has been 
 suggested to Apple, time and time again, by me and others, there is also 
 no feedback to indicate when the display is locked, as there is on iPhone.
 
 Mark
 
 
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 Is there some way to have the mac make a sound when it is shutting down?
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Re: IOS 9 siri voices now available

[BBS]

Hi Yuma. That's awesome that we can use the Siri voices in iOS 9. I hope 
some time in El Capitan they let us use those voices on there too. And guys, 
sorry but I'm gonna have to take Yuma's side with this one too. A friend of 
mine posted the news on Twitter last night so I heard it long before Yuma 
posted this information. So if you want to blame something, blame the people 
that posted it on Twitter.


Shawn
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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:42 AM
Subject: IOS 9 siri voices now available


Hi All,

Just to let you know that Siri voices are now available to use as standard 
voice over too. This is cool as it normalises the experience between asking 
siri stuff and voice over. Or let’s say voice over is now siri :)


Cheers,



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Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!

[BBS]

I remember in one of the earlier Yosemite betas, like I said, 10.10 beta 2 
or 3, it asked me if I wanted to turn on automatic updates. I said yes. Not 
sure if that was just for apps or if that was for the entire OS, but yeah it 
was there.


Shawn
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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Hmm.  I tested Yosemite, but don’t recall seeing that feature.  But then, 
maybe I’m just not remembering clearly.


Chris.


On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:58 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hey Chris. Actually, when I was beta testing the first Yosemite beta, they 
came out with this feature in I think beta 2 or something like that. 
Whoever also beta tested 10.10 in its early stages can correct me if I'm 
wrong but I think I'm right and yes, that is a nifty feature to have.


Shawn
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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:15 PM
Subject: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Wow, I just discovered something really awesome with the new OSX 10.10.3 
update that just came out.


I don’t know if any of you noticed this, but when I updated through the 
app store’s software update phicility, I saw after successfully updated 
that it asked me if I automatically wanted OSX to be updated in the 
future. Apparently, there is now an option within the preferences of the 
App Store to turn this on or off.  I thought that was really cool.  I’ve 
never seen the mac ask me that before, so I therefore presume that this is 
something new that Apple just added.  If that be the case, that’s 
definitely a very nice feature to have.


I guess the only drawback would be if you’re a developer/beta tester, and 
you don’t always want to update to the latest seed, but that’s neither 
here nor there.  LOL!


Chris.

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Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!

[BBS]

Thanks. I'll check it out when I'm on the Mac side. I'm currently using 
Windows right now because I'm trying out this new voice by Acapela which is 
the best one they've ever made. For those of you who use Infovox Ivox and 
for those of you that are tired of your Macs being slow with the Nuance 
voices and who like Ava, apparently Assistiveware's releasing an update some 
time this week with this new voice. Her name is Sharon and she sounds 
exactly like Ava but better.
Anyway, so that I don't get in trouble from others for going off topic, 
Chris, I found that Yosemite beta 2 was very bad in terms of speed and felt 
like reverting back to Mavericks several times, but I'm glad I didn't and I 
persevered through it all. This is also on a white MacBook but I have 4 GB 
of ram and still experienced the problem you're having now. But now the only 
time it's slow is if I'm coming back to the Mac side after using Windows. I 
found that a simple reboot fixed my problem.


Shawn
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Oh, I was saying that if you go into the app  store on the mac, then hit
command+Comma to bring up the preferences, you then can apparently turn on
or off the ability for OSX to update automatically.  that's all I was
saying.  It had nothing to do with System prefs.  Sorry for the confusion.
Speaking of! confusion though, have you been following the issues with my
macvbook I've been having the last few hours?  I'd be incredibly! interested
on your thoughts, especially being you tested Yosemite.

Chris.
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From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Hey again Chris. I forgot to ask in my previous message, what is this
setting in system preferences under so I can check if we're talking about
the same thing?

Shawn
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Hmm.  I tested Yosemite, but don’t recall seeing that feature.  But then,
maybe I’m just not remembering clearly.

Chris.


On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:58 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hey Chris. Actually, when I was beta testing the first Yosemite beta, they 
came out with this feature in I think beta 2 or something like that. 
Whoever also beta tested 10.10 in its early stages can correct me if I'm 
wrong but I think I'm right and yes, that is a nifty feature to have.


Shawn
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:15 PM
Subject: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Wow, I just discovered something really awesome with the new OSX 10.10.3 
update that just came out.


I don’t know if any of you noticed this, but when I updated through the 
app store’s software update phicility, I saw after successfully updated 
that it asked me if I automatically wanted OSX to be updated in the 
future. Apparently, there is now an option within the preferences of the 
App Store to turn this on or off.  I thought that was really cool.  I’ve 
never seen the mac ask me that before, so I therefore presume that this is 
something new that Apple just added.  If that be the case, that’s 
definitely a very nice feature to have.


I guess the only drawback would be if you’re a developer/beta tester, and 
you don’t always want to update to the latest seed, but that’s neither 
here nor there.  LOL!


Chris.

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Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!

[BBS]

Hey again Chris. I forgot to ask in my previous message, what is this 
setting in system preferences under so I can check if we're talking about 
the same thing?


Shawn
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Subject: Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Hmm.  I tested Yosemite, but don’t recall seeing that feature.  But then, 
maybe I’m just not remembering clearly.


Chris.


On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:58 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hey Chris. Actually, when I was beta testing the first Yosemite beta, they 
came out with this feature in I think beta 2 or something like that. 
Whoever also beta tested 10.10 in its early stages can correct me if I'm 
wrong but I think I'm right and yes, that is a nifty feature to have.


Shawn
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clgillan...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:15 PM
Subject: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Wow, I just discovered something really awesome with the new OSX 10.10.3 
update that just came out.


I don’t know if any of you noticed this, but when I updated through the 
app store’s software update phicility, I saw after successfully updated 
that it asked me if I automatically wanted OSX to be updated in the 
future. Apparently, there is now an option within the preferences of the 
App Store to turn this on or off.  I thought that was really cool.  I’ve 
never seen the mac ask me that before, so I therefore presume that this is 
something new that Apple just added.  If that be the case, that’s 
definitely a very nice feature to have.


I guess the only drawback would be if you’re a developer/beta tester, and 
you don’t always want to update to the latest seed, but that’s neither 
here nor there.  LOL!


Chris.

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Re: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!

[BBS]

Hey Chris. Actually, when I was beta testing the first Yosemite beta, they 
came out with this feature in I think beta 2 or something like that. Whoever 
also beta tested 10.10 in its early stages can correct me if I'm wrong but I 
think I'm right and yes, that is a nifty feature to have.


Shawn
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- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:15 PM
Subject: Wow! Now how cool is that! of a discovery!


Wow, I just discovered something really awesome with the new OSX 10.10.3 
update that just came out.


I don’t know if any of you noticed this, but when I updated through the app 
store’s software update phicility, I saw after successfully updated that it 
asked me if I automatically wanted OSX to be updated in the future. 
Apparently, there is now an option within the preferences of the App Store 
to turn this on or off.  I thought that was really cool.  I’ve never seen 
the mac ask me that before, so I therefore presume that this is something 
new that Apple just added.  If that be the case, that’s definitely a very 
nice feature to have.


I guess the only drawback would be if you’re a developer/beta tester, and 
you don’t always want to update to the latest seed, but that’s neither here 
nor there.  LOL!


Chris.

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Re: IoS 8.3, strange behavior

[BBS]

I agree with you on Apple being not perfect, beta testers aren't perfect as 
well. When I tested iOS 8, I didn't think of going into an app like Weather 
and tapping the status bar to see if I could see my network. I was more 
focussed on other serious issues like touch tones not being audible. Like I 
said on another mailing list, this bug or strange behavior isn't really that 
important. We can see how many bars we have with our network connection 
right? So shouldn't we have enough common sense to realize that our carriers 
wouldn't change on us?


Shawn
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From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: IoS 8.3, strange behavior


   If beta testing were to be truly effective, Apple would have to
create a very detailed flow chart the testers would have to follow
faithfully. That in itself would not be practical. More testers on the
team tho I have no idea how many there are now.

   We could label this any way we like but bugs are things that do any
number of things that are not desired. This is not a desired result of
tapping the status bar therefore its a buglet.

From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 4/11/2015 2:04 PM, Shen wrote:

Hello,
Thank you all for responding to my email and confirming the strange 
behavior. Note that I said strange behavior, and not bug. In my opinion, 
it's not a bug, but a strange behavior.

A strange behavior which has never happened in the past.
Here's also my opinion on Apple's beta test and what not.
I agree that everything is a work in progress. I also agree that when 
something as complicated as an operating system, it is almost impossible 
to be completely bug free. However, Apple has a dedicated Accessibility 
team. They also have senior engineers who answer calls helping end users 
with accessibility issues. I've also met people, blind and not, who are 
private beta testers for VoiceOver and Zoom.
With all this in place, it seems so impossible for something as obvious as 
an incorrect status bar item to slip through without being discovered. It 
is almost impossible to test a braille display without seeing this issue.
Of course private beta testers are just that, private, certain select 
people, and who probably are not as thorough as people who work for Apple. 
All we can do is report it as a new issue and hope Apple will add it to 
their growing list of bugs to fix.
I also agree that the missing email in the inbox is still there. I thought 
I'm the only person having this issue.
I also have a new bug in Yosemite after updating to 10.10.3. I will check 
into that further before I report it to Apple.




Shen
goalb...@gmail.com

On Apr 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
wrote:


   The day Apple masters perfection is the day we each one of us wins the 
Powerball.


   It's called work in progress. If people wait for an OS that is 100% 
bug free, they be in for a long wait.


   This wee buglet that has drawn so much interest did not break 
anything, or am I missing something? I tried it and did not experience an 
earth shattering meltdown. If this really bothers people, let them pile 
on Apple Accessibility with bug reports and divert their attention from 
much more important bugs.


 From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 4/11/2015 1:15 PM, Robin wrote:

I thought the advent of public BetaTesting would resolve these
perceived bugs' and/or flaws in Apple's iOS (iOS8  Beyond)

This doesn't make me more secure about forthcoming/upcoming iOS updates
such as, iOS9

I suggest keep the pressure on by detailing perceived bugs and/or
flaws detected in iOS in the form of Constructive Criticism to Apple's
Accessibility Department

Is Apple slipping as it pertains to accessibility...only time will tell
the true story
At 05:06 AM 4/11/2015, you wrote:

When companies say they have fixed bugs, I take it like a pinch of
salt, as from beta testing in the past [not Apple], things are still
the same. Still bugs when you write Braille with Braille displays on
the I phone.

It's our day for slagging Apple perhaps smily.




On 11 Apr 2015, at 12:53 pm, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote:

How am i not surprised that the email bug is not fix. Now another

bug with something that was working.


My experience is the part


On 11 Apr 2015, at 8:43 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com

wrote:


Using an iPhone 6 Plus, there is the same bug.

Another problem, which has not been fixed yet, is the focus in

email, when you go to read a message, it suddenly disappears. This has
been the case since the new operating system came out. So to bugs, not
been fixed.





On 11 Apr 2015, at 8:15 am, Shen goalb...@gmail.com 

Orbis, Formerly Menuweather

[BBS]

Hi all. Today in my two software updates, I noticed that there was an update 
for Menuweather. This update has a few changes to it. Now, the program is 
called Orbis and in the details of the update, they state that the app has a 
new user interface. I'm sorry to say this, but the new user interface isn't 
better than the previous user interface, it's actually worse. It was really bad 
that I had to delete the app. First off, there's absolutely no way to access 
any sort of preferences. Command+comma doesn't open any sort of preferences, 
and if you think that they're available in menu extras, you're sadly mistaken. 
Pressing VO+Space on the menu item only hides or shows the window which might I 
add only contains your city and a table which you can interact with to see a 
forecast for your city. Maybe I'm missing something and maybe a podcast or 
something might help point out what I'm doing wrong but who knows.
Also, like Skype and other apps I don't know of, they've gotten rid of support 
for Growl, a feature I appreciated in previous versions because I don't have 
Voiceover on all the time and there's no way I know of to make notification 
center speak notifications automatically. So yeah, I'm not too fond of this 
update and unless there's a podcast on how to use this app properly, I'd like 
to know if I can downgrade bak to the last version of Menuweather before the 
update. Anyway, thanks for listening to my bitching and hope to hear back from 
you soon.

Shawn
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Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover

[BBS]

Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you could 
double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong 
about this, someone correct me.


Shawn
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


Hi everyone,
I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this afternoon. In 
so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every notification I 
would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've gotten away 
from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in cases like 
this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or meeting 
is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since earned 
the name disrespectful Alex.


Pam Francis

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Re: weather aps for the mac?

[BBS]

Actually Chris, it did. I was just asking because it's been a while since 
they've updated the app. But I guess that's the only one that does just that 
and is somewhat accessible.


Shawn
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: weather aps for the mac?



Shawn,

I don't even think Menu Weather did this.  That would! however be really 
cool!


Chris.

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From: BBS bbssh...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: weather aps for the mac?


Hi Ted. I'm actually looking for a good weather app for the Mac myself. I 
want something that can notify me of any severe weather and the weather 
widget doesn't do that.


Shawn
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- Original Message - 
From: ted phillips tedmusi...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 9:21 AM
Subject: weather aps for the mac?


Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the 
mac that will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather 
widget, but it is only giving a little info for one day.

Thanks all

Ted Phillips

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Re: weather aps for the mac?

[BBS]

Hi Ted. I'm actually looking for a good weather app for the Mac myself. I 
want something that can notify me of any severe weather and the weather 
widget doesn't do that.


Shawn
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Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 9:21 AM
Subject: weather aps for the mac?


Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the mac 
that will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather widget, but 
it is only giving a little info for one day.

Thanks all

Ted Phillips

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Re: Moderation of the list

[BBS]

All I can say is, all's well that ends well. Like I said earlier, I wasn't 
offended. It was entertaining for a while but it lost its luster when this 
hacker tried to ruin my reputation on this list. Glad to see things back to 
normal so that now we can get back to the wonderful world of OS X and iOS.


Shawn
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From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Moderation of the list


Chris,

Thank you!  I was 100% confident that you would get to the bottom of this.
Please might I ask going forward who the actual moderator(s) are?

There is no need for you to apologize, as far as I see things.  You simply
were doing your job, and you have a life outside this list.  Those who
expected you to instantly do something frankly are the ones who were out of
line, in my not so humble opinion.

Anyway, as I said, thank you for doing this.  It is very much appreciated.

Chris.

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To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 12:20 AM
Subject: Moderation of the list


Wanted to let you all know that the account in question is now blocked
from the list. I should point out a couple things:

1. I'm not the moderator, I just help out with registering new users, as
many of you already know. By nature of that role I can also help folks
out by fiddling with their accounts. While I may be overstepping my
role, it was obvious to me that this cup of sewage was spoiling our
barrel of wine.

2. I went through the history of postings from when the account was
added in 2011 and the screeds of late do not seem to be of the same
person. I suspect the account somehow got hacked and the new owner
decided to have some 'fun' by trolling our list. The original poster was
usually on-topic up through December of last year and then went silent.
Suddenly he pops up on the list with 27 posts in two days of a most
unpleasant nature.

3. I'm not familiar enough with how this system works to know if we can
delete the messages. I'll poke around and find out. That won't help your
inbox but it might be some solace to the real owner of the account whose
name is now associated with the recent unpleasantness.

Sorry for not pulling the plug sooner. I'm not on my email as often on
weekends.

CB

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My Appologies

[BBS]

Hey guys. I'm sorry for writing off list to that idiot Mario. If that ruins my 
reputation on this list and if you think I should be punished for it, I can 
accept that. I wasn't aware that he was gonna forward my email that was 
personally meant for him off list so again, I apologize and will just delete 
anything that he sends from now on.

Shawn
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Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

[BBS]

I'm with you man. I was there for a few years and got tired of the daily/hourly 
drama there. I don't care if my account there gets hacked or suspended. I have 
a bad reputation over there for being the poor little blind guy that can't 
afford Jaws. Well now I have a Mac so I don't care if I don't have enough money 
for Jaws. Voiceover on the Mac and iPhone beats Jaws any day.

Shawn
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  From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:44 PM
  Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8


  Shawn,

  This is why I won't promote and flat out refuse to go to the zone bbs.

  chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8


Chris, Mario kinda reminds me of another person on another mailing list 
named Pablo Morales. Both of them like to complain about issues that most of us 
aren't experiencing. The thing is, Apple must be doing something right if blind 
and sighted people keep buying their products. And sure, there are bugs, but I 
along with a hand full of blind beta testers are working hard to make iOS 8.3 
and OS X Yosemite the best it can be. 
As for Mario's questionable language, surprisingly, I'm not offended. I 
just laughed at it because it shows how childish this person really is, so it 
was entertaining for me. But on a serious note, this ain't the Zone BBS or it's 
mailing list, so I agree with others that the swearing temper tantrum isn't 
appropriate for a *Family* mailing list and should be dealt with.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook


  On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


  Donna,

  What bothers me mostly about this entire thread is that those unlike you, 
and the Believer, etc. will not present the list with any rock-solid examples 
of how things are still broken.  How must one expect us to believe them if they 
won't even back up their comments with anything worthwhile.

  Chris.
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- Original Message - 
From: Donna Goodin
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8


I have to agree with the believer, here.  I don't know what you guys 
are talking about.  Many of Yuma's comments are about whether Apple is still on 
the cutting edge.  I agree that Tim Cook and Johnny Ives aren't the visionaries 
that Steve Jobs was, there's no question about that.  But in terms of the 
actual products, I've got IOS 8.2 on my phone, and I actually find Voiceover to 
be more responsive than with IOS 8.0, so it seems pretty clear to me that they 
made some accessibility improvements.  I'm running Yosemite on my MBA, and am 
happy with that as well.  I don't feel in anyway that accessibility is being 
pushed off to the side.  Are there things that could be improved, absolutely.  
But Apple is still doing a better job than any other company of building native 
accessibility into its products.  I had to use Windows 8 at my old job, and I 
can say truthfully it'd be a cold day in hell before I switch back to a PC.  I 
haven't used an Android phone since 2010, and I'm sure the landscape there has 
changed significantly since then.  But when I did try it, the experience did 
not bring me joy. 


This is just my experience, and as such, it is not intended to 
invalidate the experiences of anyone who may actually be having problems, just 
to say that not all of us are.  Don't know why some would be while others 
aren't, but perhaps that is the case.
Best,
Donna

  On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:01 AM, mário navarro mario@gmail.com 
wrote:


  

  man, why  you are so stupid?
  you work for apple?
  apple pay all your debts at the end of the month?
  apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over?
  yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone 
...
  shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ...


  Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:

All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the 
beginning have pretty much been fixed.

I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first 
generation, and all is very very smoothe.  I really don't have any issues any 
longer.  OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap 
the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site 
where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally

Re: when i am using the newest update to night owl i don't hear any tweets from the main time line.Is there a way i can fix it?

[BBS]

Hi guys. The only way all tweets can be autoread is if you have a program 
called Growl and you set it to notify you of all tweets. It costs $1.99 in 
the Mac App Store. HTH, if not, call me on Skype and I'll help you there.


Shawn
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- Original Message - 
From: David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: when i am using the newest update to night owl i don't hear any 
tweets from the main time line.Is there a way i can fix it?



Yes, you can, in notifications, but I would highly advise you not to do 
that, and it doesn’t read every tweet if your timeline gets busy. You are 
best to just go to your home timeline and press 0 for the newest tweet, 
space for the oldest unread etc. All notifications options can be controlled 
from the Notifications and Accounts/Notifications sections of Yoru prefs, 
and just make sure that your timeline options are checked if you really are 
sure!



On 19 Mar 2015, at 14:38, adrian adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote:



When ever i go to my time in night owl i all ways hear the chime to let me 
know that i have a new tweet.But i doo not hear any tweets with voice 
over.Is there a way i can fix it. to have voice over anounce my tweets?


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Re: Significant accessibility improvements to latest update of IOS SiriusXM app

[BBS]

That's good about the accessibility improvements but I think I'm gonna stick 
with Radium, mostly because it doesn't time out every 90 minutes. Unless 
that part has changed, it's gonna take a lot to convince me to try the app.


Shawn
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- Original Message - 
From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Significant accessibility improvements to latest update of IOS 
SiriusXM app



I completely agree with your assessment of the previous version.  You could 
use it, but it wasn't great.  this is much better.

Cheers,
Donna
On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I confess that I am by no means an XM fanboy for various reasons, however, 
I do remember the app not being terrible, but it also not being the 
greatest either.  This is wonderful news that they have improved 
accessibility.


Now, if only Pandora could fix the issue of me not being able to delete 
stations, we'd be in good shape, but that's another post altogether.  LOL!


Chris.

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- Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:06 PM
Subject: Significant accessibility improvements to latest update of IOS 
SiriusXM app



Hi all,

this morning SiriusXM released an update to their IOS app, and the 
accessibility is very much improved.  You can now sync favorite stations 
across devices, search for channels by name or channel number, view 
recents, and the bottom row of buttons is now labeled.  The skip button at 
the top is also now labeled.  Just thought some might want to know.

Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Some External Hard Drive Questions

[BBS]

Hi Chris and others. Actually, someone from the Peel The Apple list called 
me on Facetime. He showed me how to partition the hard drive so that my time 
machine backup and Youtube videos from my PS3 could both fit on there 
without any problems. He didn't recommend that I just copy the videos onto 
the drive over top of the time machine backup. So one partition is strictly 
Mac Journaled format and one is FAT32 so that my Youtube videos were able to 
be copied.


Shawn
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From: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Some External Hard Drive Questions


My understanding was that a time machine drive is just an ordinary Mac
formatted disk. The main issue is that TimeMachine keeps making
incremental backups until the entire volume is filled. So if you copy
those movies to the disk first you should be ok but later if you delete
one TM might suck up that extra free space.

CB

On 2/12/15 8:37 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Hey all. Today I bought an external hard drive because of that freak 
accident with my Mac a few weeks ago. So I got a few questions about it.


1. I want to do a time machine backup of my entire HD. However, I have a 
whole bunch of youtube videos I copied onto another system other than my 
Mac. Can I copy over those videos onto the external drive without 
partitioning it?


2. If I have to partition the drive, how would I go about doing that?
Thanks in advance.

Shawn
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Re: growl stopped working with the new Skype.

[BBS]

Hi Eric. Actually, they stopped supporting Growl a few months ago. This is 
why I'm using an older version of Skype that does support Growl. If in fact 
they do tell me to upgrade, I'll probably get rid of Skype altogether as I 
don't have anyone to talk to on there anymore.


Shawn
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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 12:37 PM
Subject: growl stopped working with the new Skype.


ever since MS updated their Skype a couple of weeks back, I no longer hear 
speech in the text frame automatically. Also, it appears that the growl 
checkbox was removed from the application configure dialog for Skype. Any 
clues as to how I can work around this? According to system 
preferences/growl, the proper items are enabled.


so, am I missing something here or did MS break some of the accessibility 
for older OS X versions running current version Skype?


-eric

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Re: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

[BBS]

And what does this have to do with Apple products?

Shawn
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  - Original Message - 
  From: bader salmeen 
  To: undisclosed-recipients: 
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 4:44 PM
  Subject: Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس 
لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع










  YouTube videos of



   U.S. Congress money laundering hearing


  of 

  Saudi Billionaire   Maan  Al sanea

   with bank of America 


  and  The  owner of Saad Hospital and  Schools

   in the Eastern Province in Saudi Arabia



  and the Chairman of the Board of Directors of Awal Bank  in Bahrain 


  With Arabic Subtitles







   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBNnQvhU8s



  موقع اليوتيوب الذي عرض جلسة استماع الكونجرس الأمريكي 

   لمتابعة نشاطات غسل الأموال ونشاطات



  السعودي معن عبدالواحد الصانع



  مالك مستشفى  وشركة سعد  ومدارس سعد بالمنطقة الشرقية بالسعودية   ورئيس مجلس 
ادارة بنك اوال البحريني



  مترجم باللغة العربية



  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBNnQvhU8s
























































































































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Re: where to download google chrome on mac?

[BBS]

If you're talking about Chromevox, the command to disable it is 
command+control+A A. HTH.

Shawn
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  From: Barry Abbott 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: where to download google chrome on mac?


  Thanks a lot Tim I was able to download Google. New sentence I am having a 
problem however with the voice and then it sounds very strange. What I think 
happened is that I accidentally downloaded Google voice a while back and I 
cannot figure out how to get rid of it. I have done some searches regarding 
this issue but without any luck. Does anybody have any ideas as to how I may be 
able to get rid of the voice.


  I would just like to be able to use voiceover


  Thank you all


  Barry

  Sent from Barry Abbott's  iPhone

  On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
wrote:


thank you, i don't know how you did that, but thanks anyway.

On 17 Feb 2015, at 07:15 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:


  Hi,


  It appears that a dialog is being generated that wants you to agree to 
Google’s Terms of Service before the download can begin.  I’ll try searching 
around the page to see if Safari and VO are seeing it, but here’s a link that 
may get you past that for now:


  https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/thankyou.html?platform=mac


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:41, Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote:


  I have been having the same problem for months. I press return  but the 
download of Chrome does not happen. In fact Safari goes nuts with the busy 
ready messages. I end up having to force quit safari.


  I had it on my iMac before.


  I seem to be experiencing the same issue on the Macbook Air as well. I 
had downloaded it prior to this from another site on that machine and was 
presented with all these add ons so not knowing what these were I chose to 
trash the program. I won't to get it directly from the google site.


  I have never had this issue up until Yosemite.


  Barry 

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wrote:


Hi!
No its not.
I use google chrome most of the time but it has a few glitches.
Chromevox is not to think of for me as i don’t think it supports 
swedish.
Safari is crap because it makes my fan go wild.
Nothing helps including smc and pram reset.
/A 

  16 feb 2015 kl. 13:56 skrev Dionipher Presas Herrera 
dionip...@gmail.com:


  i tried to click the download but it doesn't seems to download the 
file. i dont know why, maybe it is blocking by safari?

  On 15 Feb 2015, at 06:55 pm, Eileen Misrahi 
eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,


I just Google chrome for mac and the first link under search 
results gets you where you want to be. The link is google.com/chrome. Once 
there, there's a link for personal use. The first time opening this search 
link, I didn't need to click on downloads. If you don't see the personal 
use link, then click on the download link: HTH.


Eileen

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On Feb 15, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Dionipher Herrera 
dionip...@gmail.com wrote:


  nope, i can’t find it anywhere on the web

On 14 Feb 2015, at 19:59, Pamela Francis 
gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:


I use the Chrome browser on my Mac I assume that's what you're 
talking about. Have had it loaded on my Mac since I've had it couple of years 
ago. Is it no longer works, that's news to me. 

On Feb 13, 2015 2:18 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

  tried searching the google chrome on google search but it 
seems that theres was no chrome for mac now? isn't it?
  can you please the link to install the chrome for mac.
  dionipher

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Re: finally upgraded to 10.10

[BBS]

Hi Mike. Great to see you finally upgrade to Yosemite. Yeah, I wouldn't have 
flash player on here either but I watch a lot of live TV online and I 
haven't found a website that doesn't use flash. I don't have cable so this 
is the only way I'm able to watch TV. I'd still like to know of a website 
that streams live TV without flash.


Shawn
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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:28 AM
Subject: finally upgraded to 10.10


Hey everyone, well I decided now that apple has released the second update 
to go ahead and upgrade to yosemite. I actually don't notice one 
difference, the one bug I have noticed is, on web sites, when typing a 
long message in some text fields, voiceover sometimes totally loses focus. 
Also on the desktop, when arrowing up and down, sometimes the drives are 
not spoken. It also seems slightly less responsive. Whenever I install a 
new operating system, I always prefer to format my drive and do a clean 
install. I decided not to reinstall fusion and use windows on my macs 
anymore. I can do everything I need to using the mac exclusively. I'm also 
not going to reinstall adobe flash player. Now that youtube can play all 
videos using html 5, I see no need for it, and any site that insists on 
using flash instead of something newer isn't worth it.


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Re: Infovox iVox Voices

[BBS]

Yes. I agree that *some* voices from Infovox are good. Mostly Ryan, Tracy, 
Lisa, Rod, Grahem and Lucy. That's pretty much it. All of the others sound 
very robotic to my ears and I have great ears, especially Tyler who is 
Australian as well as Lisa, and their new Scotish voice Rhona. As I said 
earlier, it's great that they can do exclamations, but when you make your 
voices sound like crap, all it is is a feature not really necessary.


Shawn
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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Infovox iVox Voices



Hi!
This depends on your liking of course.
But you have a lot of english voices built-in.
Many use the Alex voice and loves it.
I use Moira for english which is also built-in.
But i have used and still have a license for the ivox voices.
They are quite good and much faster on the mac than on a windows machine.
The english voices are very good.
Especially the US english Ryan.
At least imho.
The swedish voices are not that good but thats not a problem for you i 
guess.
Personally i stopped using ivox because of that and also because they do a 
lot of voices  which seems more for fun than for working.

For example the queen Elisabeth voice and the hip-hop voice Saul.
If people like that its fine for me but for my personal use i would like 
to have Espeak available as a voice alternative for the mac.

Ok, now i have  come far away from the subject.
But as a summary you should at least try them.
Good luck and feel free to ask more questions.
I am willing to help as much as i can.
/A

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  I am currently using Samantha in Mavericks. I have been thinking about 
trying Infovox. Is anyone using those voices? Worth the extra money?


  What about the voices in Yosemite? Are there more choices, better 
quality, etc?


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Re: Infovox iVox Voices

[BBS]

Well, I do like some of the voices from Cereproc, specifically Jack, Sarah, 
Katherine and Nathan. Although I don't know if they've released an update to 
them, there are some bugs with them, such as repeating sentences over and 
over and word echo doesn't work either. If you'd like to hear samples of 
their voices, you can go to cereproc.com and in the store they have samples 
of their voices. Kinda wish they'd let you demo their voices but oh well.


Shawn
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From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Infovox iVox Voices


   Yes that is why I am looking into this. It does not take long for me
to tune out, especially when reading repetitive material, like file names.

   Samantha is good but she ain't human.

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On 2/1/2015 12:47 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
Hi. I'm not too fond about the new Infovox voices. In my opinion, they've 
replaced quality for features like making exclamations and such. I've 
reported to this to them and hopefully they'll make better quality voices 
in the future. Don't get me wrong, I like that ability to get more 
expressive when an exclamation is present, but if your voices sound like 
crap, at the end of the day, that's all it is. A feature.


Shawn
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   I am currently using Samantha in Mavericks. I have been thinking about 
trying Infovox. Is anyone using those voices? Worth the extra money?


   What about the voices in Yosemite? Are there more choices, better 
quality, etc?


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Re: Infovox iVox Voices

[BBS]

Samantha in Yosemite is Samantha in any OS. Haven't noticed any changes to 
her voice. It seems the only voice to make a little more human sounding is 
the Australian Karen voice. Although I don't know if this is still present 
in Yosemite 10.2 but the Nuance voices were very laggy.


Shawn
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From: The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Infovox iVox Voices


   Same voices in Yosemite as in Mavericks? How is Samantha? I tried 
setting up both her and Alex for different things in Mavericks and found 
it way too confusing.


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On 2/1/2015 2:33 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

Alex is better in Yosemite.

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:


   I am currently using Samantha in Mavericks. I have been thinking 
about trying Infovox. Is anyone using those voices? Worth the extra 
money?


   What about the voices in Yosemite? Are there more choices, better 
quality, etc?


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Re: help to subscribe

[BBS]

The way I subscribed, I just sent a blank email to 
viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com and I was immediately subscribed.


Shawn
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:46 AM
Subject: help to subscribe




hi all.
can anyone help me to subscribe this IPhone group.

VIPhone .

what is the address to subscribe?
I have done everything but I can not sign up.
thanks.

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Re: voice over not working on i phone, help!

[BBS]

Also, did you check if your volume could possibly be turned down? To check 
this, have Voiceover read something with a 2-finger swipe down and use the 
buttons on the side to turn the volume up. HTH.


Shawn
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Subject: Re: voice over not working on i phone, help!


mine did this last week. I asked siri to turn vo off and back on and it 
fixed it.
On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi,
So, on my 5c, vo doesn't seem to be working.

I have tried making sure the mute switch isn't turned to the mute 
position.


I have tried a triple tap with both two and three fingers and nothing 
happens.


If somebody calls me, I can then hear vo and can run my hand along the 
screen and hear stuff on the screen.  But as soon as the call ends, vo 
goes away.


How in the heck do I fix this?


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Re: YoruFukurou and yosemite

[BBS]

No one can really say if an app works or doesn't work on Yosemite since it's 
still in beta and we're covered by an NDA. All I can really say is that if 
you're really concerned about the app not working on Yosemite, there's 
another client out there called TWBlue and it's quite good with Voiceover.


Shawn
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Subject: YoruFukurou and yosemite


Does anyone know if YoruFukurou works in Yosemite now? I know it kept on 
crashing a few months go. If it is, are there any other twitter clients 
which is a reasonable alternative?

Thanks

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Re: Returning Subscriber.

[BBS]

Hi Anita. I don't remember if you were on this list when I joined 4 years ago, 
but if so, welcome back. If you end up buying a new Mac, odds are whenever you 
do, it'll probably be preloaded with the new OS, Yosemite. If it doesn't, 
Mavericks has done what I need it to do. As for older OS's I don't think Apple 
has Mountain Lion on the mac App Store anymore. And you can forget about Tiger 
because chances are that your new Mac won't support it. As for asking questions 
about my Mac and Voiceover, I hardly ever contact Apple Accessibility. I ask 
all my questions right here and most people are very knowledgeable. Good luck 
on whatever computer you decide to buy.

Shawn
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  Subject: Re: Returning Subscriber.


  I'd go for a Macbook Air. With 4GB of ram, and 128GB of storage, you'd only 
spend $899. I'd suggest upgrading the storage, though. The only differences 
between the 11-inch and 13-inch are the price, an SD card slot in the 13-inch, 
and smaller function keys on the top row, and arrow keys, on the 11-inch.


  As to questions, Apple Accessibility is good, but I found it easier to email 
this list when I was learning. Both are great resources, though, and nothing 
stops you from using them both. Don't forget about www.applevis.com as well, 
where you'll find forums, guides, podcasts, and so on. There's even a link on 
the homepage for those new to the Mac.

  On Sep 14, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Anita silky...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi List,
I was on this list once before, and decided to join again, as i'm 
trying to do my homework in the way of shopping around for a new computer. had 
a macBook Pro for a very short time, but returned it, because i didn't feel 
very accomplished after completing tasks and Apple Accessibility Tech support 
was on the phone for hours, but couldn't grasp all concepts.
Since then, I've purchased a book on the subject, and its my hope that 
i'll be better equipped to deal with my potential new computer as a whole. 
VoiceOver is part of the OS I know, but whitch OS works best in the way of 
accessibility, i.e., Mavericks, Mountain Lion or Tiger? Which model of the 
macBook is the most usable and popular for blind users? i don't need anything 
with extreme graphics, and don't think this would have any impact on VoiceOver 
describing labeled graphics. Aren't that type of graphics and display more 
visually appealing for the sighted? I know windows  8 is out, but feel the OS 
has changed drastically, and feel a change is needed. Do people usually utelize 
Apple Accessible tech support or this list for problems and questions?  There's 
only a limited amount of time that Apple Accessible tech support can help me, 
and just wanna be sure I've covered all my bases properly.
Thanks,
Anita


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Re: installing yosemeti over the top of mavericks

[BBS]

Hi Moris. If you read the original posters email, he wasn't asking about 
anything that would break the NDA of beta testers such as new features or 
bugs. He was asking how he would go about installing Yosemite when it's 
released to the general public. That's not breaking any agreements.


Shawn
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- Original Message - 
From: Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: installing yosemeti over the top of mavericks


Hello, I don't believe this is been released yet remember the nondisclosure 
agreement you agree to I hope this is enough to get the point across. I 
don't know the list moderator feels about this but please stop endangering 
what those of us are doing legitimately? Enough said.
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
wrote:



hey,
just run the installer for the new OS and it will just update all the 
components for you.

On 11 Sep 2014, at 8:37 am, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote:

Dear List, when the time comes to upgrade my mac, to yosemeti, I wonder 
how you go about installing one version of osx over another.  I know that 
a clean install is the best option, but it seems to be extremely 
complicated.  When the new os arrives am I right in thinking it is 
downloaded from the app store itself not from software update, and once 
it is downloaded how is the process started.  I want the features of the 
new os but I am terrified that I will go from having a functioning mac, 
to having a broken one through upgrading.  .  When the new os is 
installed and the computer restarts does it come up talking?  Does it 
keep the settings from the previous version of osx? What do you do if 
something goes wrong with the upgrade?  Maybe it is a hang over from my 
windows days, but I am uneasy about interfering with the os.  Do we have 
a confirmed release date for yosemeti?

Many Thanks Lee

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RE: Alex on IOS 8

[BBS]

Hey Chris. Actually, you can get Nicky and Aaron for the Vocalizer
Expressive driver for NVDA. If you'd like, email me off list and I'll send
you a copy of the Vocalizer Expressive driver plus the Siri voices through
dropbox since I hink you've said that you use NVDA on Windows. Although
really I would love to see them available for OS X Yosemite. If someone's a
beta tester, please, if I don't become a beta tester myself, request that
the Siri voices be available for Yosemite and I think they should know that
a program on Windows has them so it would be nice if we could use them on
the Mac. BTW, I think the female Siri voice, Nicky sounds a heck of a lot
better on NVDA then she does on the iPhone.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alex on IOS 8

Oh cool! So how do you know this? Do you have these voices on your computer
or something?

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu

On 21/06/2014 03:12, Blake Sinnett wrote:
 Hello,

 The Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices for Siri are Nicky and Aaron 
 for the US female and male, respectively. Apple seem to have exclusive 
 use of these for now. I expect this is an advantage of their partnership.

 Thanks,
 Blake


 --
 From: Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:35 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Alex on IOS 8

 There's a british female voice for  cerie?  When did that come about?
  I actually was thinking about the new male voice they came out with 
 a while back, but have no idea what speech engine he uses, or if it's 
 a whole new Apple's  choosing to keep quiet about.
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:35 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 Yes, I like the new British female voice for Siri, but would happily 
 have Serena back

 On 20 Jun 2014, at 21:15, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Join the club, I love the male voice cerie uses though, and wish 
 that could be used as a reading voice, and have tried in vane to 
 find more info about it, but can't find a thing.
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:41 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would love that too. I currently use samantha.
 isaac
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat

 On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 Yes, I would love that. My hearing impairment is such that I 
 understand male voices much better than female ones. Currently, I 
 use Daniel, but I'd much rather use Alex.

 Teresa

 Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
 How I wonder what you're at
 --Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Jessica Moss 
 junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh wow, that will be amazing, I always wondered when/if that 
 would ever happen.
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 We're all curious at this moment so let's be patient.

 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu

 On 19/06/2014 19:33, Jessica D wrote:
 I would be curious to know if he would work on my iPhone 5 and 
 iPad fourth-generation.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Chris G 
 jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8.

 Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the latest 
 iPad mini?

 Thanks
 Chris



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RE: Alex on IOS 8

[BBS]

Hi Jessica. If you have an iPhone 4S or higher, just use Siri. You'll hear
those voices.


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 8:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alex on IOS 8

Can I get a url to hear samples of those?  I found a link to another one not
mentioned on this post, which sounded entirely too amazing, and wish those
would become available for the IPhone, but we probably would have to pay an
arm and a leg for them.
  I couldn't believe how little android users had to pay for the loquendo
voices compared to mobile speak users who had to pay $100 per voice, which I
thought was outragious, and I would never pay anybody that amount of money,
as opposed to $5 per voice, that's pathetic.
On Jun 22, 2014, at 5:27 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hey Chris. Actually, you can get Nicky and Aaron for the Vocalizer 
 Expressive driver for NVDA. If you'd like, email me off list and I'll 
 send you a copy of the Vocalizer Expressive driver plus the Siri 
 voices through dropbox since I hink you've said that you use NVDA on 
 Windows. Although really I would love to see them available for OS X 
 Yosemite. If someone's a beta tester, please, if I don't become a beta 
 tester myself, request that the Siri voices be available for Yosemite 
 and I think they should know that a program on Windows has them so it 
 would be nice if we could use them on the Mac. BTW, I think the female 
 Siri voice, Nicky sounds a heck of a lot better on NVDA then she does on
the iPhone.
 
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
 Hallsworth
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:55 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Alex on IOS 8
 
 Oh cool! So how do you know this? Do you have these voices on your 
 computer or something?
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 21/06/2014 03:12, Blake Sinnett wrote:
 Hello,
 
 The Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices for Siri are Nicky and Aaron 
 for the US female and male, respectively. Apple seem to have 
 exclusive use of these for now. I expect this is an advantage of their
partnership.
 
 Thanks,
 Blake
 
 
 --
 From: Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:35 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Alex on IOS 8
 
 There's a british female voice for  cerie?  When did that come about?
 I actually was thinking about the new male voice they came out with 
 a while back, but have no idea what speech engine he uses, or if 
 it's a whole new Apple's  choosing to keep quiet about.
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:35 PM, David Taylor 
 e.david.tay...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I like the new British female voice for Siri, but would 
 happily have Serena back
 
 On 20 Jun 2014, at 21:15, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Join the club, I love the male voice cerie uses though, and wish 
 that could be used as a reading voice, and have tried in vane to 
 find more info about it, but can't find a thing.
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:41 PM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would love that too. I currently use samantha.
 isaac
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat
 
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
wrote:
 
 Yes, I would love that. My hearing impairment is such that I 
 understand male voices much better than female ones. Currently, 
 I use Daniel, but I'd much rather use Alex.
 
 Teresa
 
 Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
 How I wonder what you're at
 --Lewis Carroll
 
 On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Jessica Moss 
 junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh wow, that will be amazing, I always wondered when/if that 
 would ever happen.
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 We're all curious at this moment so let's be patient.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 19/06/2014 19:33, Jessica D wrote:
 I would be curious to know if he would work on my iPhone 5 
 and iPad fourth-generation.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Chris G 
 jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8.
 
 Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the 
 latest iPad mini?
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
 
 
 --
 Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com
 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Email: jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com
 Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101
 Fax: 888-766-7985
 Direct: (716) 965-5717
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 twitter: JediKent
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 Mystic Access

RE: new version of skype

[BBS]

Hi Jean. It depends on what version of Skype you're talking about. Do you
mean Skype on the Mac or on iOS?


Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 12:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: new version of skype

Hello All:
Are people using the new version of skype for ios?  What do you think of it?
I want to be sure it will work before I download it.
Thanks,
Jean

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