IOS 7: bug in contact manager
Hello folks.. Here I am to report some accessibility issues under IOS 7 and contact manager. 1. It is impossible to use the VO rotor to edit some contact information, such as name, family name, salutation etc... Notes, phone number, e-mail address, web site fields are not affected. using a bluetooth keyboard with quicknav off doesn't solve the problem. 2. In the edit field affected by the bug reported above, when performing a single finger double tap to move VO cursor to the beginning or to the end of the field's content, causes Voice Over to announce Insertion pointed start even if the cursor is at the end of the text. The cursor position changes, but this is not reported by Voice Over. 3. It's impossible to add an address field to an existing contact. Trying to do that causes the Phone application to crash. The only way to do that is tapping the button with Voice Over turned off. Can you confirm? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: questions
In data Giovedě 19 Settembre 2013 17.46.00, Rebecca Sabo beckyas...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi all, I updated my mack pro . Well done. Now my iTunes is corrupted . How do I fix the problem ? You shoul'd download iTunes from www.apple.com and re-install it. When will you be able to read ibooks on the mack computer? I allready am, cause I installed the beta version of Mavericks, witch includes iBooks for MacOSX. When it will be released, you'll be able too. :-) My bests. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: questions
In data Giovedě 19 Settembre 2013 17.58.39, Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com ha scritto: HI. I didn't think the update for the mac was out yet? Indeed, it isn't, if you're referring to MacOSX 10.9 Mavericks. Maybe October. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
cutting video on MACOSX
hello guys. I'm wandering if anyone of you knows an accessible application under MacOSX that allows easy selecting, copyng and cutting of a video MP4 file. I was trying MPEG Streamclip, but it freezes to much. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MacOSX: Daisy reader
Il giorno 25/mar/2013, alle ore 22:49, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com ha scritto: I could never get this app to work. And can it do text only daisy books? Yes, there is text-only daisy books support... Unfortunately the App itself seems not to work :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
MacOSX: Daisy reader
Hello. On my iPhone I use InDaisy as Daisy book reader. My question is: is there an application to properly read Daisy books under MacOSX? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: MacOSX: Daisy reader
Il giorno 25/mar/2013, alle ore 14:04, Maria Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi try olearia Downloaded and installed, but it doesn't work. I can only get to the check automatically for updates dialogs, but, whatever button I click on, the application suddenly closes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Apple accessibility email
Il giorno 25/mar/2013, alle ore 17:10, ROD SKENE skene...@gmail.com ha scritto: I forgot the email address for Apple accessibility. Anyone have it? I want to report VoiceOver can't read the available air play speakers on the Apple Tv. accessibil...@apple.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
In data Domenica 19 Febbraio 2012 17.42.59, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com ha scritto: I have also problems with some danish letters the 3 last æ ø and å. I have also reported these bugs to apple, but they have not solved the problems yet. There are problems with the italian voices too. The premium voices in particular are so buggy, that many of us italian users are forced to use the compact Paolo and Silvia. The list of mispronunciation is too long to be reported here, but many many mails have been sent to accessibility -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 18/feb/2012, alle ore 16:46, Arrigo n0...@charter.net ha scritto: I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by converting them to plain text. Mike mike, the point is not there and you are smart enough to understend it by yourself work with tables in an word processing environment, working productively with tables i mean, doesn't involve just reading them, but the ability to recognize the presence of a table without knowing preventively that a table is present and its positition i need to be able to inspect the table's contents and, if necessary, I must be in condition to edit data i must be able to check on table's formatting and change them if so I decide. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
In data Sabato 18 Febbraio 2012 2.47.35, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com ha scritto: I have no idea what this means. OS 10.8 is not out yet, and what are you basing your speculation on that there will be no improvements to VoiceOver. I am not speculating. I have that beta installed on my MBPro and, while I am writing this message on my windows machine, it is running on my laptop. Also, for me, Braille support works just fine, and the busy signals that occasionally appear in Safari are manageable and tolerable. Braille, right now, is just a mirror of the voice Output. And this is insufficient. My braille display costs 5000€ and I want to be able to do more with it than reading in braille that Alex or Silvia Says. I want to be able to define my own braille tables, if I need. Or, for GUI controls, in exampe, in italian if I encounter a checked Check box, what VO outputs on my 40 cells braille display is selezionato casella di spunta or, if the checkbox is unchecked, non selezionato casella di spunta. It is more than 30 characters, on a 40 characters display. And there is no way to customize that thing. And this problem is there since braille support has been implemented. And since then, many users and I are requesting a solution. And since then, we all are receiving the usual mail from Apple... They know the problem, they are investigating it (what an hard and difficult investigation!) and they are working to solve the problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
Il giorno 18/feb/2012, alle ore 01:35, Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi, I think this is more the case of what people hope to see in the new release, not what they want to change in a product they haven't tried yet. It seems pretty obvious doesn't it? Hello Yuma. Unfortunately, since now, there no evidences of work on voice over under macosx 10.8. The Braille is still in sufficiently implemented, being the best thing we can say about this feature that… it is there. The multi-thread js not there. The busy busy busy message is still with us and isn't it reassuring? It helps remember that, while the world changes everyday, still there are things which stability is something you can always count on. And, yes, the Nuance's voices bugs are still in place. Best regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anyone Using Google Chrome with VO?
In data Martedì 7 Febbraio 2012 12.48.56, roberto burceni robur...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi all, yes google Chrome works fine, bbut in sites with frames it is not working. I'm trying version 17 beta and it seems better than 16.0, but in frames you can move only with tab and not with voiceover cursor. I Confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Right clicking links on a web page?
In data Domenica 29 Gennaio 2012 11.47.28, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com ha scritto: When I press VO-shift-m I get the context menu for the page, not the current link I am focused on. You can try interacting with the link itself. This should solve your problem and bring up the contextual menu. But, unfortunately, it is not a very reliable work around. This is a bug Apple is aware of. Just wait and hope. Some day they'll solve the bug... maybe. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Collective reports of VoiceOver issues
In data Martedì 17 Gennaio 2012 17.19.34, Emrah li...@kavun.ch ha scritto: What do you think? I think I'm tired of sending feed-backs and never find a bug solved. It's been years I'm reporting problems about selecting contents in Safari and the problem is still there. I'm reporting problems with the new high quality Nuance's voices, but no answer at all and the bugs are still there. The italian blind Mac Users community at http://www.universalaccess.it sent some documents regarding Voice Over bugs and requests of new features, including the selection issue in Safari, but here we are. And what about the accessibility of third party applications icon in the status bar? I ask to myself if someone is listening. I'm tired to send reports to accessibil...@apple.com and receiving back the standard message Oh thanks! We appreciate the feedback and we will pass... etc... etc... etc... But after all, why not? We have nothing to loose but our time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My thoughts regarding the latest VoiceOver On podcast
In data Domenica 25 Dicembre 2011 21.02.32, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk ha scritto: First of all, I wouldn't use Pages to simply read through a document. TextEdit works much better for this. Pages is a word processing application. It means, at least to me, it is something I must be able to use to write a document, but also to read it. Why in 2011-2012 should I use 2 different applications to accomplish 2 very related task (writing and reading)? It is a non-sense, at least for me. As for knowing whether a note is present, if you interact with a page, VO says 3 items normally, for header, body and footer, but if there's a text box present, it says 4 items. Too complicated. What is needed is a way to know if in a given paragraph a note reference is present and, if it is, I have to be able to read its content without leaving the text area. In Microsoft Word, using JAWS, if I am reading a text paragraph by paragraph, the screen reader says X reference present; the same if I am reading line by line. If I want, I can have the notes read out or I can skip them if I do not care about them. The same for heading. I do not want to go around the screen to discover relevant informations, I want the screen reader to report them to me, when and if I need. We are not talking about Plato's dialogs, about philosophy, we are talking about software and features. I do really welcome differences in ways a task can be accomplished, but efficence should be the most important criteria to be considered. As I said before, simply reading through a document is better done using TextEdit. And as I said before, Pages must be a confortable work environment for writing and editing, and for reading. My mother, wich is sighted, doesn't switch between Pages and text edit: she just open the document she wants, and she uses it. The same result is possible for me when I work under Windows. The same must be possible for all of us when working under MacOSX. Also, what do you call a productive environment? I work as a professional translator and Pages works fine for me. I am working with a collegue and friend on a very long and complex book about science history. He works under Windows, I would like to work under MacOSX. The book will contain many many notes, some pics, a number of cross references and tables. I need to read his work to check out if the notes are in the correct place and to be sure the formatting is consistent. Of course, i need to add my parts to his work. I need to be sure the titles and subtitles have the correct hierarchical level and are properly formatted. I need to be sure the lists are properly marked and formatted. And I want the screen reader to give me those information while scanning the text, I do not want to be forced to scan the text to glean what I need going around the Pages' interface. Those features are very possible to implement and, if they are, they will not change your way to accomplish your work, but tey'll make mine easier. I sent many many request to Apple Accessibility and reported bugs over and over. But nothing has changed. Voice Over Braille support remains absolutely insufficient, advanced word processing is poorly supported, minimaly advanced spreadsheet manipulation is problematicaly complicated and the new fantastic and long awaited international voices are in need of a intense and deep psychoanalytic support, 'cause they are having some gender difficulties. Let's wait and hope, because, as we say in Italy, hope is the last to die! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My thoughts regarding the latest VoiceOver On podcast
In data Domenica 25 Dicembre 2011 15.56.36, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk ha scritto: I have to disagree with you there. So far, the only thing I can't do with Pages is use the change tracking facility. I can find what the changes are but not where they are within a given page. And what's about notes and headings? If I am reading a document using the Say All command, how can I know if a given paragraph contains a note or is an heading? And, if I know a note is present, is there a method to have its content read out without leaving the actual position in the document body? I am not talking about interacting and de-interacting, I'm talking about something easy to use and quick, something I can use in a productive environment. As for handling tables, there is a command to turn them into text so that they can be read. You can also work on them by copying them into Numbers, then copying them back into Pages once you're done. Have a table translated into text is not working with tables, is working with text. Apple produces Voice Over. Apple produces Pages. Apple's philosophy about accessibility is that are the developper themselves that have to make theyr application accessible. So, the Apple's Applications do have to be accessible to set a standard, and an high one. Copy, paste, work, copy and re-paste a table is not a solution, it is a work around. But we are in 2012, aren't we? JAWS for Windows, Windows Eyes, and NVDA also do have a good support for table editing in word processing programs like Openoffice (NVDA) or Microsoft Office. Apple says MacOSX Lion is the most advanced Operating system on the market and Voice Over is part of that system. So why, after 2 or 3 years of mails sent to accessibil...@apple.com, after dozens of bugs submitted during the beta testing, are we here discussing about a feature present in other Screen reading software since 7 or 8 years? Merry Christmas! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My thoughts regarding the latest VoiceOver On podcast
In data Sabato 24 Dicembre 2011 21.42.45, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net ha scritto: However, for my every day tasks, using itunes, web surfing, email, word processing, it's mac all the way. There are several accessible word processing choices, text edit works well. Pages is also useable, there is another one called nesus writer, not sure if I am spelling that right, and open office also works, although it takes some getting used to. Mike, I wouldn't talk about accessible word processing choice. A better statement might be basic word pprocessing choice. Advanced word processing involves tables, footnotes and end notes management and many other things that, right now, there is no way to do under MacOSX. It's sad, but it is just the way it is right now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: impossible anymore to like or comment on people's Facebook posts
In data Domenica 6 Novembre 2011 9.45.56, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com ha scritto: What do you actually get by emulating? Emulating is not a solution, it is only a work around. And it is not possible under IOS, I think. :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: impossible anymore to like or comment on people's Facebook posts
In data Sabato 5 Novembre 2011 18.53.29, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net ha scritto: But that's what I mean. IF there isn't a comment already you cannot do it. that sucks now. Agreed. I noticed it 2 or 3 weeks ago. The HTML code sent to the browser is user-agent dependent. If you emulate Internet Explorer or Firefox, no problem at all: what you get from FB is the old and working code, if your browser sensd Safari as user-agent, well, it's a mess. Just for information, if you emulate Safari with Firefox under Windows with NVDA or JAWS as screen readers or Orca under linux, you'll have the same problem. But, since iesterday, the problem was present only at http://m.facebook.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
IOS: accessible VO cloent
Hello guys. I am looking for an accessible Facebook client under IOS5. I Tried the official FB App and Facely HD too, but it was a very frustrating experience. Facely HD refreshers very frequently the screen, causing VO to loose focus. Write a note becomes a very challenging task and even reading posts is not a piece of cake. The link/button/control to comment a post or to say that I like it is missing: I mean, it is visible on the screen and it is displayed as a plus sign (+), but for VO it is as if it was not there. Any suggestion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS: accessible VO cloent
In data Lunedě 24 Ottobre 2011 13.23.56, Doug Lawlor doug.law...@gmail.com ha scritto: Check out Focus for Facebook in the app store. Thanks Doug, donwloaded, installed and tried out. It... works... in some way. Of course, it doesn't fully support FB features. You cannot Add or edit notes, you cannot access Places or Check-in, but, at least, you can read feeds, status messages and say if you do like them or not and you can post comment. What I would like to have is the ufficial FB app made accessible. But :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Glitch with Nuance Voices In Lion Getting Worse
In data Domenica 16 Ottobre 2011 12.27.55, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com ha scritto: Hey guys. I don't know if any of you guys noticed but when using the Nuance voices with Voice Over in Lion 10.72, the bug with the freaky pitch changes has gotten worse. I like using Samantha a lot and it would be too bad if I had to use Alex for everything because of this bug. So I'd like to encourage everyone to get on Apple Accessibilities aces and tell them to fix this stupid bug once and for all. I'm a registered developer and I'm sending bug-repors about this problem since the first pubblic release of Lion, but no one is listening... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
In data Giovedì 28 Luglio 2011 17.11.33, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com ha scritto: Ok, i may be naive to the point of stupidness here, but i hope and pray to God that we will be free from scripting on the VO platform. As you wish. What I need to have done is automatic reading of incoming messages in skype active chat window. Right now, if I want to read incoming chat messages, I need to move VO cursor, then I have to interact with the HTML content, then I have to move to the last message. In alternative, I have to unlink VO cursor from the system focus and still I am not able to have incoming messages read automatically. I need to enter commands. I need to know if a paragraph contains footnotes and endnotes reference; and, if it does and if I want, I should be able to read the note's content without leaving the document text area. When in a spreadsheet, I need to define monitor cells on a document base; when navigating the cells, I need to know if a cell content is a constant or the result of a formula again without leaving the spreadsheet itself. JAWS, Orca, NVDA, Windows eyes to are scriptable. And it is a very powerfull feature. If you want to use that feature, well, it is there; if you do not want, just don't. If something is there, you can choose if you want to use it or not; if a feature is not available... Yes, I know, you can control VO using Apple Script. But there are some limitations and they are major limitations too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 6.13.35, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com ha scritto: How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learned the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a large majority of those who are complaining of problems who are new or relatively new to Apple in the first place, and now they are trying to deal with a new operating system which was announced to have way over 200 changes and new features. Bugs are bugs, not different ways to do things. I am a registered developer and I am using Lion since first beta version. I reported several bugs, but none of them has been addressed. We really need to call things by theyr real name, if we want Vo to improove. This Lion, from an accessibility point of view, is not the best Apple's accomplishment. Braille output, in example, has not changed: it is just a lame voice mirror and it is unacceptable if you want call VO a Professional Screen reader. Braille verbosity has been poorly implemented. If we want talk about web navigation, just look at the newly implemented one key command. So, have your quicknav turned on, activate the one key commands and start browsing a web page. Now, jump to the next heading by pressing h, open web rotor with VO+u and select lines, in example. Now, go on browsing your web page using down arrow, then press h again. If you press down arrow to continue your line by line browsing, you'll find that the web rotor is no longer set to line but to heading. And what's about the translations? They are irritating, at least. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voice over lag and other lion issues
In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 15.38.26, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu ha scritto: Well said, massimo. And why don't we discuss the new international voices? I am italian, so, just for a moment, I'll talk about italian voices. Well, we have Silvia and Paolo. Paolo, the compact and the premium version too, are unbearable... I may say excruciating. Theyr prosody is more then unnatural. Silvia and Paolo premium version perpetrate a considerable number of pronunciation errors; in example, the italian word for thing cosa becomes csa, parola (word) becomes parla (he, she, it speaks!) and so on! If exclamation marks exist, maybe, they are there for a good reason. Scansoft voices, all of them, just ignore it. I mean... I do not expect from a synthetic voice the performances of a brilliant reciter, but, if and when an exclamation mark is there, I want to know that. The random pitch changes affecting Scansoft voices is just another bug Apple is aware of... And what about status menu? In snow leopard all you could see and reach was the system icons like bluetooth, Wi-Fi status, clock icon and battery status. What can you see in Leon, two years later? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
JB of iPhone IOS 4.3.1: how to
Yes, yes, I know, this is a very old question and a repeated one too. I jailbroken my iPhone under windows, noticed Kydia's inaccessibility and let the thing go. Now that Kydia seems to be VO accessible, I would like to repeat the experience but I would like to do it with my Mac and I am unsure on how to do it. Can anybody help? My bests. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: JB of iPhone IOS 4.3.1: how to
In data Domenica 15 Maggio 2011 15.41.11, brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com ha scritto: check www.chicksdigmacs.net for jailbreak info. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Libra Office
In data Lunedì 9 Maggio 2011 2.49.37, Kevin Chao kevincha...@gmail.com ha scritto: Libra Office is described as a free, open source, multi-platform, multi-lingual, and powerful productivity suite. Has anyone tried it? If so, how well is VoiceOver accessibility? It is not very accessible with VO. Read-All command doesn't work, tables are unreachable, character, page, and paragraph setting dialogs require some very difficult work-around to be used, spreadsheet is usable but not in a productive environment and you do have a lot of time to waste on it to come out with something readable and usable. After all, Libre office is nothing but a diferent version of Open Office, isn't it? In plain english: Office automation still remains a big problem under MacOSX and Voice Over. My bests. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: languages on the mac
In data Lunedě 7 Marzo 2011 16.42.26, richard watson richard.watson15...@gmail.com ha scritto: what happened when you left vo speak the entire hebrew word? It say nothing. On 3/7/11, Jonathan C. Cohnjonc...@cox.net wrote: Well, out of the box Snow Leopard will tell you the name of the character if you navigate it using the single character move voice over cursor. I have tried this primarily with Cyrillic and Hebrew characters. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:59 PM, richard watson wrote: Good afternoon list, I am considering a mac and had a off-the-wall question. how does voice over handle such things as greek fonts? thanks rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box
In data Martedì 22 Febbraio 2011 10.17.11, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com ha scritto: If you were the CEO of apple, they'd be broke. :). I know its hard for us to sit by and just take but, I think Apple has done all they can as for accessibility in regards to this. Its up to the app developers to do their part. Apple shouldn't be forced to play the accessibility police. Agreed, Ricardo. But, there is something apple can do. Why don't ask the app-devs to fill in informations about the accessibility of their apps? Something like: fully accessible, partially accessible, not accessible, accessibility not tested? It may make devs aware that something like accessibility does exist! :-) JMHO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dvd to ipod
In data Venerdì 28 Gennaio 2011 3.04.01, Stephanie Mitchell mumwith2k...@gmail.com ha scritto: I have a set of 16 dvds i want to put on my ipod touch. Is this possi? if so, how? You'll need some software. Maybe you can consider using DVD Remaster in conjunction with firemount. Thanks. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessibility of Hotspot Shield
In data Lunedì 17 Gennaio 2011 15.04.42, Michael Busboom m...@busboom.at ha scritto: While I was able to install the Windows version, I encountered several problems with the Mac iteration. For what I know, the problems you are having may be the result of a VO bug. The commands to enable and disable the software functions are on the system status bar: I mean that item you can reach by pressing VO+m+m. VO cannot read all the items present there. For example, dropbox places an icon there, but VO doesn't show it at all. VMWare has the same problem. And many other applications too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessibility of Hotspot Shield
In data Lunedì 17 Gennaio 2011 16.29.46, Michael Busboom m...@busboom.at ha scritto: This is very disturbing. Just for the fun of it, I just relaunched Hot Spot Shield and discovered that you were right. It is indeed on the system status bar, and I can find no way to get to it. I am very sorry. The status bar problem is what I call a major VO issue. I sent my mail about that to accessibil...@apple.com, getting no relevant answer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first mac perchus
In data Sabato 8 Gennaio 2011 0.08.59, Sara Waggle saraselle...@gmail.com ha scritto: I use mostly Text Edit, and occasionally Pages. Hello. Just some questions about some accessibility issues in Pages. If I work on a MS-Word document containing tables, pages showes the tables, but VO just skips them. Any solution available? How can i know if in a paragraph or sentence there is a footnote or endnote reference and have the note read? TNX. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Burn will be accessible again
Hello people. If you need a burning CDDVD software you may consider using Burn by Maarten Foukhar. The last version, 2.5, released last december, was not very accessible. So some user here in Italy reported it to Marteen and the accessibility problems have been solved. You can find news about this project at this Web Address http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=169226. The accessibility improovement will be present in the new upcoming release. Have a nice week-end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac os 10.6.6 and the mac app store released
In data Giovedì 6 Gennaio 2011 15.28.36, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com ha scritto: The mac os 10.6.6 update is released along with the mac app store. I am not sure I like it. It should be possible to try out a demo of a program before I buy it and it should be possible from within the appstore itself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Script for VoiceOver
In data Venerdì 31 Dicembre 2010 15.15.01, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net ha scritto: can anyone tell me sources where I can find information of VoiceOver commands for Apple Script scripting?? I've just learned the basics of Apple Script and want to learn scripting for VoiceOver now. Hello. I share the same Jürgen's interest about Voice Over and Apple script. Jürgen, if you find informations about that, would you like to send me informations and references? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Script for VoiceOver
In data Venerdì 31 Dicembre 2010 17.14.26, Jon Cohn jonc...@cox.net ha scritto: The most direct though not necessarily the most obvious is to open up the dictionary of objects available to AppleScript within the AppleScript editor... Yes, Of course, you're right. But you know, sample code and examples are always the best way to learn... :-) JIMHO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Creating new folder on external drive and what is a smart folder
In data Mercoledì 22 Dicembre 2010 19.06.05, Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com ha scritto: Second, what is a smart folder and why do I want one? A smart folder... can be defined as a dynamic folder. When creating one, you have to specify search parameters. The smart folder will contain files and folder consistent to the parameters you entered. Oh and third, what is a smart mailbox and why do I want one of those as well? Smart mailboxes are the same as smart folders, of course. The difference is that Smart folders work on filesystems (file and folders) and smart mailboxes work on your mailboxes. Why do you want one of those? Suppose you want to have a mailbox showing only the messages you received during the last week... or month... :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Three little problems with Mail and VO
Hello. When I am reading a newly created mail message that contains lists (especially numbered ones) VO behaves strangely. If one of the list items is longer than one line, VO reads the item and repeats the item number at the begin of every line. It is very disturbing. below you can find an example of what I mean: This list item is ok; This is not. This item is longer than just one line and, if I try to read it with VO, the screen reader speaks out numbers that do not exist in the real message, making me think I made a mistake and making difficult to read a message to proofread it or for any other reason; This is the third item and VO reads it right. Problem number two. When I am reading a message, I can find no way to have VO telling me if some text is quoted or not. And that is true even in HTML messages in witch quoted text is properly tagged. Problem number Three: if viewing the message list in threaded mode, I mean with messages grouped by discussion, there is no way to know the nesting level of a given message. I mean: I post this message to the mailing list and this is the... root message of the thread, nesting 0 if you wish; Now, Joe answer my message and this is nesting level 1; I answer back to Joe and this is nesting level 2; In big, long and crowded threads this make a little bit difficult to figure out who is responding to whom. Any help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Connecting To Wireless
In data Venerdì 17 Dicembre 2010 23.51.22, Ezzy Bueno ezzybu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Any help would be appreciated. And so it it will be for any further detail you can provide. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
programming for iDevices
Hi all. I would like to begin programming apps for the iDevices. Here may I find guides and tutorials blind friendly? Buone feste! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is there an accessible Usenet client
Il giorno 02/dic/2010, alle ore 06.34, Jude DaShiell ha scritto: Pine can do nntp if configured properly. So can alpine. Maybe I have to be more specific. What I need and I am looking for is an accessible Usenet client with accessible graphical user Interface. The woman I am helping is making her switch from Windows to MacOsX; under windows she was used to manage e-mails, RSS Feeds and usenet with mozilla Thunderbird. Playing with terminal windows may not be very advisable, right now! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Is there an accessible Usenet client
Hi all. I am looking for an accessible NNTP usenet client. I was trying four of them, but none is usable. I tried Nemo. It seemed very very promising; the configuration wizard was fully accessible, but... the table containing the subscribed groups looks empty to Voice Over. I mean, it can see the table but all rows and columns are empty for VO. Of course, the control containing the message itself is a standard HTML content that VO can read with no problem... :-) Menu bar cannot be accessed by pressing VO+m, but they respond to ctrl+f2. Voice Over will not read them. :-) Ok, uninstalled Nemo, I instal thunderbird. Just for fun. As you already know, no accessibility at all there. Thoth was m third attempt. Another disaster. I was not able to access the preferences dialog. The last usenet client I tried is Unisom. Preferences are accessible and so are the menus and other pars of the application. But the overall accessibility is less then pore. Some controls do respond to VO+space, others need the simulated mouse click, and some are triggered only by a physical mouse click. The message list is not easy to find, and the threaded view is not a list or a table but some kind of text area... I am not sure... :-) Any help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
In data Domenica 14 Novembre 2010 4.01.27, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu ha scritto: tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a computer-based entertainment system. I of course said I want our media computer to be a Mac. Here's the question. What do we do with our DVD collection? Can this be imported into iTunes? Hi Donna, there are several ways to do what you want. If you want not to loose DVD quality, you may copy them onto your HDD. What you need is: VLC Medyaplayer http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/project/vlc/1.1.5/macosx/vlc-1.1.5.dmg, FireMount https://www.metakine.com/files/DVDRemaster%20v6.4.0.dmg and, if you wish, an external HD, or NAS or some external storage solution. What you have to do is: 1. Download VLC and firemount; 2. Install and run firemount; 3. Insert your DVD into your Mac; 4. Open the DVD via finder; 5. Select the DVD contents; 6. Copy them with cmd+c; 7. Open the location in wich you want to store the DVD; 8. Create a new cfolder; 9. Paste the DVD to the newly created folder; 10. Rename the folder adding to it the .dvdmedia extension. And here we are. You may open the folder with DVD Player or even frontrow. HTH and sorry for my english... just an italian mac user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
In data Domenica 14 Novembre 2010 14.52.40, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu ha scritto: Anyway, thanks for sending such detailed instructions. I'm definitely going to play around with this. If you need more help about this topic, feel free ctocontact me. Have a good sunday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
In data Domenica 14 Novembre 2010 14.44.36, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu ha scritto: We have tons of CDs, a huge entertainment center that hold the stereo, it'd be great to get rid of a lot of that. If you want to grab your audio CDs, you may want to try out MAX http://sbooth.org/Max/. It's a very very interesting application that allow you cd grabbing, format conversions and you may also set it to add automatically your grabbings to iTunes library. It's freeware, little, VO fully accessible, it has good documentation... You can set different compression profiles and many many other interesting options. Saluti. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
In data Domenica 14 Novembre 2010 17.54.56, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu ha scritto: Wow, that sounds cool! I'll definitely take a look at that. Nice to have an alternative that doesn't require me to add everything to my iTunes library. The installation proces for MAX is a little bit different. The application comes in a zipped file containing 3 or 4 files. All .app files are important to have MAX working, but having all of them into Applications system folder make it a little bit chaotic. So, you may want to create a new folder for MAX files, copy them there and create an alias pointing to max.app into your applications folder. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
In data Domenica 14 Novembre 2010 22.16.25, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net ha scritto: If you get something like the mac mini, or really any mac for that matter, there's no need even to import anything. Just use the dvd player app that the mac provides. Importing DVD or CDA is a good way to preserve the original media from damages and browse trough filesystem is much faster then looking for the cd or dvd you want to play. Just my opinion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO V4.0: some contributions
In data Lunedě 28 Giugno 2010 15.40.11, Kawal Gucukoglu kawal_gucuko...@sent.com ha scritto: Hi. I really like the braille suggestions as braille is very important to me and at present my display will only read in grade 1 even though I've done the necessary adjustments for it to read grade II. Thank you. In facts, as things stand now in MacOsX, the Braille just mirrors the TTS. :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
