Re: Need iPhone alarm app recommendations

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

I tried to get the link to it in the app store, but was having a difficult time 
doing that. Here's the name of the app: "Alarmed-Reminders" by YOCTOVILLE. It's 
fully compatible with VO. It's free, but has in app purchases for the extras, 
such as daily repeat reminders and weekly reminders. The in app purchase is 
$4.99. It's well worth it if one has repetitive appointments or meds. It works 
on iOS 8 and higher. HTH. 

Best,
Eileen

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> On Oct 10, 2015, at 9:58 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Yocto Alarm Clock appears not to be available any more.
> 
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>> On 10/10/2015 8:13 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> Could you track the name of that app down for me?
>> No approximations of that app name appear in the app store. I've downloaded 
>> a half a dozen or so alarm apps from the app store and not a one of them is 
>> voiceover friendly. It seems like clocks are highly graphical and  are one 
>> of those app types that don't work well with voiceover. If you know of one 
>> that is I could sure use it.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is one, but I don't have it apparently installed currently.  I'm not 
>>> even totally sure how to spell it.  It's called Yocto Clock.  Basically, it 
>>> used to just be called Alarmed, but then the dev updated it to do so much 
>>> more than it used to.
>>> 
>>> It's definitely very very very worth it!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
>>> To: "Macvisionaries" 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 7:17 PM
>>> Subject: Need iPhone alarm app recommendations
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Imagine my surprise to find that the built-in alarm in the clock app cannot 
>>> be routed to external audio equipment. I tested the alarm with a Bluetooth 
>>> connection to a Bose sound link Bluetooth speaker, and although output from 
>>> voiceover is routed to the speaker, the alarm sound comes out the iPhone 
>>> speaker and not the Bluetooth speaker. Thinking it was a Bluetooth problem, 
>>> I connected the iPhone with the cable to the input jack on the back of the 
>>> bulls like, and still, no joy. The alarm only comes out the iPhone speaker 
>>> no matter how you've got your rig configured. That's bogus!
>>> I need an alarm that can actually wake me up, and not just be a little ring 
>>> you dinghy thing in the background like coming out of the iPhone speaker. 
>>> Does anybody know of an alarm app that's preferably free that will allow me 
>>> to configure the alarm to come out of a audio system.? Thank you Sent from 
>>> my IPhone
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Re: AT launches WiFi calling

[eileen . misrahi]

Not only do you have to have the right hardware, but you need to be running 9.0 
and above. For me, I have the correct iPhone, but I have elected to stay at 
8.4.1 for now until the future updates correct the bugs. HTH. This is what I 
got from ATT earlier this afternoon.


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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Right, that is what I discovered.  Scott had just initially said to call them 
> to see if there was a charge, etc, so I wanted to be totally sure.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Miller" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: AT launches WiFi calling
> 
> 
> You don’t need to call them to set it up, just to go settings, phone, and 
> turn on wi-fi calling.
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:14 AM, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Okay. I'll give them Okay. I'll give them a call in a bit. I have an iPhone6.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just called them to set it up, and the lady I spoke with confirmed, yes. 
>>> It's only for the 6, 6+, 6S, and 6S+.
>>> 
>>> As for other platforms like Android, I'm not totally sure, but that's OT 
>>> for this list anyway.  LOL!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 10:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AT launches WiFi calling
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure on that, I know T-Mobile supported it back through the 5S at least 
>>> but I’m not sure where AT is supporting the device.
>>> 
 On Oct 9, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
 
 But it's only on the 6 and later?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Scott Granados  
> wrote:
> 
> Just a heads up that for folks using the AT network, WiFi calling is 
> now available.  This feature for the unfamiliar lets you get your cell 
> services over a WiFi connection so is good for example if your home is in 
> a spotty coverage area or if you work inside a large building where 
> coverage is difficult but WiFi is available.  You’ll want to contact AT 
> to see what you need to do to establish service.  I know this is a free 
> option on T-Mobile, not sure if AT is charging.
> 
> Enjoy
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Re: AT launches WiFi calling

[eileen . misrahi]

Okay. I'll give them Okay. I'll give them a call in a bit. I have an iPhone6. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I just called them to set it up, and the lady I spoke with confirmed, yes. 
> It's only for the 6, 6+, 6S, and 6S+.
> 
> As for other platforms like Android, I'm not totally sure, but that's OT for 
> this list anyway.  LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: AT launches WiFi calling
> 
> 
> Not sure on that, I know T-Mobile supported it back through the 5S at least 
> but I’m not sure where AT is supporting the device.
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> But it's only on the 6 and later?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a heads up that for folks using the AT network, WiFi calling is now 
>>> available.  This feature for the unfamiliar lets you get your cell services 
>>> over a WiFi connection so is good for example if your home is in a spotty 
>>> coverage area or if you work inside a large building where coverage is 
>>> difficult but WiFi is available.  You’ll want to contact AT to see what 
>>> you need to do to establish service.  I know this is a free option on 
>>> T-Mobile, not sure if AT is charging.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[eileen . misrahi]

Hello,

I used Diskmaker X to create a bootable Yosemite installer. I placed it on an 
externa; HD. In the process, it uses the entire partition of the drive. My 
question is: Can you make a folder and move it to "with so you have access to 
the rest of the drive or do you need to make an additional partition to create 
an El Capitan installer Key? I look forward to all suggestions regarding this, 
as I would like to begin creating installer versions for future reference.

Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 6:14 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Download diskmaker x instead.
> /A
>> On 07 Oct 2015, at 20:35, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> the terminal is not working, maybe because the file name of my el capitan on 
>> my application is install os el capitan?
>>> On 03 Oct 2015, at 7:18 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
>>> 
>>> I hope you find the following information useful.
>>> 
>>> Good Luck,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
>>> 
>>> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the download
>>> has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather than actually
>>> going through the process of upgrading over the top of your existing OS X
>>> installation. Make sure that the installer that downloads the El Capitan
>>> file is located in the /Applications folder under the name 'Install OS X El
>>> Capitan.app'.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need to
>>> format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can accept the
>>> payload for the installation of El Capitan.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Launch the Disk Utility application.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Click the Partition tab.
>>> 
>>> 6.
>>> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and set
>>> the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>>> 
>>> 7.
>>> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the popup
>>> window then click the OK button.
>>> 
>>> 8.
>>> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to confirm
>>> click the Partition button.
>>> 
>>> 9.
>>> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
>>> 
>>> 10.
>>> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make sure you
>>> do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the one we just
>>> created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command in the Terminal
>>> window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
>>> 
>>> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\
>>> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled
>>> --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app
>>> --nointeraction
>>> 
>>> 11.
>>> Enter your Administrative account password.
>>> 
>>> 12.
>>> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for OS X
>>> El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly created El
>>> Capitan Installer key.
>>> 
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Re: Braille Support in OS X

[eileen . misrahi]

As I use the app MBraille to compose this post, I'm disheartened to even 
attempt to use my Apex with my MacBook Air. Braille is such a part of my daily 
life in so many ways, except on my Mac. Are there basic braille command 
keystrokes for VO to look at before embarking on this journey? 

Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen

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> On Oct 6, 2015, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   This is exactly the kind of feedback we need. So far, the lack of 
> independent cursor tracking is a major complaint.
> 
>   In respect to BRLTTY, I think we should leave that and just focus on 
> encouraging Apple to improve what is already in place at least in this thread.
> 
>   So far we have the lack of independent cursor tracking and little or no 
> formatting support.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> 
>> On 10/6/2015 6:00 AM, Blee Blat wrote:
>> Yes, that's the biggest problem is no independent braille cursor and not 
>> enough customizations.  Also that would fix the cursor routing issues as 
>> well.
>> 
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Re: cannot restart into windows

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I’m running Yosemite 10.10.5 and when I go to switch startup disks from the 
system preferences, such as to bootcamp or my external drive, I’m alerted to 
insert my user ID and password for the admin account. So, now I have gotten 
into the habit to unlock first by going to the bottom of the window with 
FN-VO-Right arrow and then VO-left arrow back until the checkbox for the lock 
is under VO, Use the VO-space on it and follow the prompts. I believe I started 
seeing this in 10.10.5, but not in earlier versions of Yosemite. HTH. 

Eileen 
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
> 
> That is where I am at.  System preferences -> startup drive -> select startup 
> drive.
>  
> I am going to try the lock/unlock thing.  I didn’t see that.  Is that a new 
> os x 10.11 feature?  That wasn’t there on 10.10 before.
>  
> Best,
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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> ] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 6:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: cannot restart into windows
>  
> Have you tried selecting the startup drive in System Preferences and not in 
> Bootcamp preferences?
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
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>  
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Juan Hernandez > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I just upgraded my macbook pro from os x 10.10 to 10.11.  I now cannot 
>> restart from the system prefs àstartup drive – bootcamp selector.  When I 
>> interact with the radio button controls of bootcamp or the mac os x drive, 
>> they are dimmed.  Has anyone seen this issue?  If yes can this be fixed? Or 
>> must I go into windows via the pressing option key at startup method?
>>  
>> Best,
>>  
>> Juan
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: 10.11 and braille

[eileen . misrahi]

Hello All,

As I sit here in the lobby of a hotel and reflect on the vendors I had a chance 
to visit with, I'm disheartened to know That the braille displays cost are out 
of my league. The Bum Vario 20 Cell at $2400 and the Smart Beetle at $1300. I 
gave up quickly after getting my MacBook Air 2 years ago in using my braille 
display with it. Fortunately, I Windows installed in BootCamp to use the AT 
software that is not compatible with VO. You are correct and to dream if Apple 
would add driver support for most used braille embossers. However, Duxbury has 
been trying for a few years to develope a Mac version. The problem is VO and 
trying to take a PC product and create an Apple one. I'm not happy either, as 
Apple has dropped the ball on this one for many years. I'm in your camp Scott, 
as I'm not going to update so quickly to El Capitan. It will take a huge 
village to see change at Apple in regards to braille. Thanks for listening.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> If the braille support was like in the screenreader cobra which i’ve tested.
> Then i could stop using windows.
> Also if we could get drivers for the most used brailleprinters that would be 
> a great step forward.
> /A
>> 2 okt. 2015 kl. 16:52 skrev Mary Otten :
>> 
>> Well, obviously none of us knows the reason why braille especially on the 
>> Mac is not very good. I actually don't really think the braille on the 
>> screen of a device is going to be all that wonderful or practical. The 
>> problem isn't the display. It is the support  for braille. I wish Apple 
>> could hire that guy Marcos who apparently was very instrumental in making 
>> the jaws braille support as good as it is. They just need somebody who 
>> really gets it.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:44 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure about that either because I know they do hire good quality 
>>> people even for accessibility efforts so I’m not sure it’s that simple.  I 
>>> heard about the patent for the reactive metal but I can’t imagine that 
>>> being practical unless it has some benefit for the sited as well.  
 On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 For whatever the reason, I simply don't think Apple has higher the 
 expertise they need to get braille right. I think this notion of them 
 doing something special with braille on the screen is nonsense. If I'm 
 wrong and proven wrong, so be it. But I really do believe the problem is 
 they don't know how to get it right, and they haven't found the person who 
 can help them do it. That seem sad, given their money, but there you go.
 .
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I sort of think Apple has something big planned though. I've read that 
> they have their own patent for sort of elastic and shapable metal, so 
> that the metal could form dots and such. I don't know if they'll do that, 
> or just keep supporting braille displays, but the lack of new fixes in 
> braille leads me to think that they'll do a tactile display for the 
> iPhone, and the braille display things will just get in the way.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> BTW, I meant that tongue and cheek, I am in total agreement with you.  
>> Apple’s braille support needs a lot of work and it’s inexcusable how bad 
>> it is now.
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Oh dear.
>>> Soon i will give up on this as they do not seem to prioritize braille 
>>> at all.
>>> If apple was a german or European company there’s no doubt that the 
>>> braille support will be better.
>>> It took us forever to get good braille support for Jaws.
>>> Also for window eyes but its there.
>>> Nvda has support for braille displays but braille support in the sense 
>>> of navigating seems not to be able yet.
>>> Dolphin has good support and orca for linux.
>>> Still mac is not very well supported in braille.
>>> Its a shame and i will really let them know that.
>>> Sorry for my offensive attack here but i am so tired of this.
>>> THey just get back to you saying thanks for your report we will pass 
>>> this on to blablabla.
>>> I am pissed off but i hope things will be better.
>>> Still optemistic though.
>>> /A 
 1 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev William Windels 
 :
 
 Hello all,
 I was reading the bug and feature report of Kris , thx for that.
 As announced in that blog, there was not much 

Apple ID and password requested to open iBooks on Mac

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi List,

First time encountering this. Just opened iBooks today. My MacBook Air is 
requesting my Apple ID and password. I haven't had to do this last night or 
other subsequent times in the past. Just want to know if this does occur from 
time-to time or should I be weary about having this pop up. I'm using Yosemite 
10.10.5 on a MBA 11? mid 2013. Thanks.

Best,
Eileen
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Re: Apple ID and password requested to open iBooks on Mac

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Thanks for your confirmation. I just didn't want to get caught up in something 
I shouldn't have press the button on. Maybe I'm somewhat dubious, but I have 
gotten stung on the PC side a little over a year ago. Thanks again.

Eileen

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> On Oct 1, 2015, at 2:49 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  I had to sign in to the iBooks store as well, so it seems that is part of 
> the process now.
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 5:35 PM, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> First time encountering this. Just opened iBooks today. My MacBook Air is 
>> requesting my Apple ID and password. I haven't had to do this last night or 
>> other subsequent times in the past. Just want to know if this does occur 
>> from time-to time or should I be weary about having this pop up. I'm using 
>> Yosemite 10.10.5 on a MBA 11? mid 2013. Thanks.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> .mail "Apple ID and password verification upon opening iBooks on my Mac" 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: iBooks with the Mac and iPhone6

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

that’s really interesting. I’m reading a technical book for a class that I am 
taking and I believe I have better control over the iBook app on my Mac. Once I 
get to a page, I interact with it using VO-Shift-down arrow and I’m able to 
down arrow (line-by-line) or other smaller increments. It seems that in iBooks 
on the phone, I need to move my finger with constant contact on the screen to 
move line-by-line. Flicking from left-to-right only moves me to different 
objects on the page and then I lose my place. I also have this manual on my New 
Generation Victor Stream, which I have the most control over. I found out last 
night that there are 5 different levels  on the Stream that I can select from, 
besides navigating by character, word, line, sentence, etc. Go figure it. 

Best, 
Eileen 
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> One thing i seem to not figure out is if there’s a table of contents i can 
> interact with that and lick the wanted item but sometimes it seems not to 
> work.
> Reading is also easier on the phone to me.
> /A
>> 29 sep. 2015 kl. 03:27 skrev Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> Thanks for responding. I decided to Google it and came up with some results 
>> and ideas. So here goes: 
>> 
>> On the Mac, open iBooks and go to its preferences by pressing Command-comma. 
>> 2. Select the general tab with VO-space and stop interacting with it by 
>> pressing VO-Shift-Up Arrow.
>> 3. Tab a few times until you hear “Sync.” The next tab will be a checkbox. 
>> Press VO-space on it. this checkbox is to “Sync bookmarks, highlights, and 
>> collections across all devices.” That’s it for the Mac. 
>> 
>> iOS:
>> 1. Open settings-iBooks and flick until you hear VO say “Sync.” This is a 
>> checkbox. Mine was not checked. Use VO-space to check it. 
>> 2. Close out the settings menu. 
>> 
>> I opened iBooks on both the Mac and iPhone. I did find that the app on the 
>> phone had a link to go back to 431. I did tap on the search button. The text 
>> edit field accepted page numbers. The firs line of page 432 was read by VO. 
>> I single finger double tap on it and I was moved to that page. I hope this 
>> helps. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Eileen 
>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I did try it but it doesn’t seem to work here.
>>> BUt maybe my mac is a bit to old.
>>> /A
>>>> 29 sep. 2015 kl. 01:11 skrev Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Folks, 
>>>> 
>>>> I decided to take the plunge and post this topic here. With so much 
>>>> discussion about the appropriateness of subject matter this one involves 
>>>> both the Mac and iOS device. 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a textbook downloaded into iBooks on both my MacBook Air 2013 and 
>>>> my iPhone6. Is there anyway to obtain a hand off effect between the 2 
>>>> devices? I mainly use iBooks on the Mac for better control of iBooks, but 
>>>> I need to perform some exercises with it,so I opened the book in iBooks on 
>>>> my phone. However, I needed to use the picker about 250 flicks to get to 
>>>> the page I needed to view in order to have access to the directions. Is 
>>>> there a “Go To Page” in the iPhone app so I don’t have to flick so much 
>>>> and to increase efficiency? Is there a sync feature between the 2 versions 
>>>> that would import the bookmarks and current page being viewed? This would 
>>>> be terrific to have the 2 versions of iBooks communicate between each 
>>>> other in order to expedite the process. I look forward to your responses. 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards, 
>>>> Eileen 
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Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question

[eileen . misrahi]

In order to upgrade to Yosemite, one needs to have Snow Lepard 10.6.8 
installed. If Snow Lepard is installed, but not running the most recent build 
of it, one will need to install 10.6.8 before upgrading to Yosemite. HTH. 

Eileen 

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> On Sep 27, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> No, anyone with a 2007 Mac or later can jump from Snow Leopard to Yosemite. I 
> think that'll be true once El Capitan gets released this Wednesday.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought I read that if it was somewhat newer than that even that you 
>>> couldn't go beyond Lion or Mountain Lion, and if one doesn't have those in 
>>> your purchase list, those machines get stuck at what they came with. I'm 
>>> not sure how true that is though.
>>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 2:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Installing Windows on Mac Question
>>> 
>>> Hi. You won't have any problems installing on your Mac. I used to have 
>>> Bootcamp but now I've switched back to VMWare Fusion which is all I need 
>>> but that's personal preference. I apologize in advance for going off topic 
>>> a bit, but how old is the MacBook you are using? If it's 2007 or above, you 
>>> can update to the latest version of OS X which is Yosemite and even update 
>>> to El Capitan when it comes out. To find out the year of the Mac, open the 
>>> menu bar with VO+M and go down until you hear about this Mac. Enter on that 
>>> and you should see all the info about the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 26, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mauricio Molina  
 wrote:
 
 Hello all, 
 Before I ask my question, I want to provide the following information: I 
 have been a Windows user for quite some time and would like to continue to 
 do so. I have also recently taken up the Mac and have been fortunate 
 enough to have an older MacBook Pro given to me while I learn this 
 operating system. Unfortunately, it is my understanding that the older 
 MacBook Pro at my disposal cannot be updated beyond OSX 10.6. On the 
 Windows side my preferred screen reader is JAWS but I also have NVDA and 
 Window-Eyes installed. I would like to add right here that I really do not 
 want to make this a Mac versus PC conversation; as a blind computer I am 
 grateful that I have access to both. 
 Question
 I was considering acquiring both a new Windows 10 laptop as well as a new 
 MacBook Pro. But since I am not independently wealthy, I wondered if it 
 would not be more cost effective purchasing only the MacBook Pro and then 
 installing Windows on that system. I would like to know how well Windows 
 runs on the Mac and get an idea of the difficulty of actually 
 accomplishing this feat. Additionally, are there any recommended specs, 
 such as the amount of RAM or preferred processor, for this type of setup? 
 I am fairly competent with a Windows PC but still consider myself a novice 
 on the Mac; either may or may not be of help during the process of 
 installing Windows on a Mac. Any suggestions and/or recommendations would 
 be greatly appreciated. 
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Amadeus Pro Update On The Mac

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

Just got a notification that I have 2 updates. One of them is Amadeus Pro. Has 
anyone performed the update yet? With so many updates for the iOS 9 platform, I 
don’t want to have any surprises, since the current version of Amadeus Pro is 
working. Thanks for your advise. 

Kind regards, 
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iBooks with the Mac and iPhone6

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello Folks, 

I decided to take the plunge and post this topic here. With so much discussion 
about the appropriateness of subject matter this one involves both the Mac and 
iOS device. 

I have a textbook downloaded into iBooks on both my MacBook Air 2013 and my 
iPhone6. Is there anyway to obtain a hand off effect between the 2 devices? I 
mainly use iBooks on the Mac for better control of iBooks, but I need to 
perform some exercises with it,so I opened the book in iBooks on my phone. 
However, I needed to use the picker about 250 flicks to get to the page I 
needed to view in order to have access to the directions. Is there a “Go To 
Page” in the iPhone app so I don’t have to flick so much and to increase 
efficiency? Is there a sync feature between the 2 versions that would import 
the bookmarks and current page being viewed? This would be terrific to have the 
2 versions of iBooks communicate between each other in order to expedite the 
process. I look forward to your responses. 

Kind regards, 
Eileen 

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Re: iBooks with the Mac and iPhone6

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

Thanks for responding. I decided to Google it and came up with some results and 
ideas. So here goes: 

On the Mac, open iBooks and go to its preferences by pressing Command-comma. 
2. Select the general tab with VO-space and stop interacting with it by 
pressing VO-Shift-Up Arrow.
3. Tab a few times until you hear “Sync.” The next tab will be a checkbox. 
Press VO-space on it. this checkbox is to “Sync bookmarks, highlights, and 
collections across all devices.” That’s it for the Mac. 

iOS:
1. Open settings-iBooks and flick until you hear VO say “Sync.” This is a 
checkbox. Mine was not checked. Use VO-space to check it. 
2. Close out the settings menu. 

I opened iBooks on both the Mac and iPhone. I did find that the app on the 
phone had a link to go back to 431. I did tap on the search button. The text 
edit field accepted page numbers. The firs line of page 432 was read by VO. I 
single finger double tap on it and I was moved to that page. I hope this helps. 

Best, 
Eileen 
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I did try it but it doesn’t seem to work here.
> BUt maybe my mac is a bit to old.
> /A
>> 29 sep. 2015 kl. 01:11 skrev Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Hello Folks, 
>> 
>> I decided to take the plunge and post this topic here. With so much 
>> discussion about the appropriateness of subject matter this one involves 
>> both the Mac and iOS device. 
>> 
>> I have a textbook downloaded into iBooks on both my MacBook Air 2013 and my 
>> iPhone6. Is there anyway to obtain a hand off effect between the 2 devices? 
>> I mainly use iBooks on the Mac for better control of iBooks, but I need to 
>> perform some exercises with it,so I opened the book in iBooks on my phone. 
>> However, I needed to use the picker about 250 flicks to get to the page I 
>> needed to view in order to have access to the directions. Is there a “Go To 
>> Page” in the iPhone app so I don’t have to flick so much and to increase 
>> efficiency? Is there a sync feature between the 2 versions that would import 
>> the bookmarks and current page being viewed? This would be terrific to have 
>> the 2 versions of iBooks communicate between each other in order to expedite 
>> the process. I look forward to your responses. 
>> 
>> Kind regards, 
>> Eileen 
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Re: El Kapitan.

[eileen . misrahi]

Since I live in California and camp in Yosemite about every 3 years, El Capitan 
is the largest mountain peak in Yosemite. Since Apple has placed more emphasis 
on fixing things in the El Capitan release, that's why they probably selected 
it for the next OS.

Best,
Eileen

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> On Sep 17, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> It's a mountain in a national park in US.  You might get some more info on 
> Google.
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 20:41, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Please could someone tell me where this place El Capitan is as I've never 
>> heard of it.  Is it a small place and why do Apple choose such strange 
>> names?  I preferred the cat family.
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Re: E-mail bug on IOS.

[eileen . misrahi]

I just watt to add that there are times in 8.4.1 mail I lose all the buttons at 
the bottom, which includes move, delete, reply, and compose. assentially, I 
need to close out of that particular email and reopen it to get the bottom 
buttons to show again. 

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> On Sep 17, 2015, at 9:51 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
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> The delete button bug appears to be fixed.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 18 Sep 2015, at 03:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Michael.
>> 
>> I thought I had explained that in one of my previous messages some time ago. 
>>  If not, then I apologise.
>> 
>> So here goes again.
>> 
>> If in IOS8, you opened your mailbox, you could not always focus on every 
>> message.  Also when in a body of a message, you could find the delete button 
>> and Voice Over would land on the reply button instead.
>> 
>> Another bug I found in IOS8 was for instance:
>> 
>> 1. Open settings.
>> 
>> 2. flick right and pretend you were looking for phone.
>> 
>> 3.  You'd pass reminders and suddenly Voice Over would say apple pay or 
>> compass.  You'd flick left and you'd notice that it had missed, face time, 
>> messages and phone.
>> 
>> I hope this clarifies.
>> 
>> Kawal. 
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 00:37, Michael Babcock  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, but what i’m asking is what bugs are you experiencing an IOS eight? If I 
>> had A better clarification of the "bugs" you're experiencing, I could've 
>> that you know if they are present in IOS nine or not.
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not running iOS 9. The bugs are in iOS 8.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:56 pm, Michael  wrote:
 
 Could you be more specific about what bug you're talking about in mail? I 
 haven't observed any as of yet and been running iOS nine cents July.
 
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> Hi.
> 
> I don't know if anyone has got IOS9 on there I phone yet but if they have 
> and it's released, can someone tell me if the e-mail bug has been fixed 
> please?  Also, the bug where Voice Over did not focus properly on I cons, 
> is that fixed too please?  Please could someone tell me when El Capitan 
> will be released as I don't know.
> 
> I hope my questions are allowed now meaning we can ask I phone questions 
> on here now.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: system integrity protection

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

Can you give steps on how to disable this feature in recovery in general terms? 

Thanks.

Eileen

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> Hey everyone, I've been doing some reading on what will be coming in version 
> 10.11, el Capitan, it does appear as though Apple is getting more restrictive 
> with each release. In 10.10 they introduced kext signing which only allows 
> you to install kernel extentions that are signed by Apple. Now, in 10.11, 
> they are introducing what is called system integrity protection. In a 
> nutshell, what this does is prevent any program from accessing or binding to 
> running processes such as the finder or dock. One program that apparently is 
> affected by this is dropbox, the finder integration will no longer work. 
> Basically, it requires all applications to be sandboxed, even those that are 
> installed from outside the app store. Even if a program requests elevated 
> permissions where you have to type in your password, that will no longer 
> matter, the program will no longer have this access. Fortunately, there will 
> be a way to disable this from the recovery, and that will be one of the first 
> things I do once I upgrade.
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What to include and exclude on this list?

[eileen . misrahi]

So!!!George, I have changed the thread to reflect the discussion more 
accurately. Can you tell me which list I would need to post to if I had a hands 
off question which uses both the Mac and iOS device? I agree with Tim and Donna 
that the Apple eco system intertwines with all platforms and to exclude one 
would undermine  the posts on this list. I hope Mark you will reconsider not to 
exclude iOS appropriate inquiries. Thanks.

Best,
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Apple TV-No Optical Port

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I have a question. I know that there are 3.5 mm jack to blue tooth adaptors, 
which I learned a while back. Will this work with the new Apple TV if one 
needed to use an optical cable to rout the Apple TV through their receiver? 
This may be an option for those who are not in the market or can’t afford a new 
blue tooth receiver along with all the new iDevices revealed last Wednesday. 
Input on this would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
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Need To Get Shared Photo Folder From Google Drive To Photo App On MacBook Air

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello List, 

I’m not sure if this is possible. I have a shared photo folder in Google Drive, 
but I would like to copy it to the photo app on my MacBook Air. Is this 
possible and what is the steps involved to complete this action? I can access 
this folder in Google Drive, but I would like to have the feature of showing 
the photos as a slide show. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
eileen 

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Adding Multiple Email Addresses In The Native Mail App On The Mac

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Hello List, 

I need to send a group email, but I have the email addresses listed in the 
contact app separately listed. How do I add them individually to the “To” edit 
field in a new email? I don’t want to create a new contact group list. Can this 
be done? 

Thanks in advance. 

Kind regards, 
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Re: bootcamp not appearing in startup disk prefs

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Hi,

A question for you: Are you using the most recent bootcamp drivers? Just a 
thought that the drivers have been updated. The other thought is: Have you ran 
a antivirus software to see if there's anything lurking in the background? I'm 
running bootcamp with Win 8.1 on a MacBook Air mid 2013 and not having any 
issues with it. 

Eileen  

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 12:15 PM, joe quinn  wrote:
> 
> Subject says it all. I can’t go to bootfcam via the recovery partition’s 
> “choose a startup disk” option, but, nowhere else. Bootchamp doesn’t work 
> anymore, citing some sort of error, and, it just doesn’t appear in startup 
> prefs. Any ideas on how I can fix this? It’s not worked for a while on a 
> mid-2012 MacBook pro running 10.11. but, before you say anything about me 
> being off topic, it didn’t work in os x 10.10 either.
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Re: bootcamp not appearing in startup disk prefs

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I know that if the last operating system used will be highlighted with the 
cursor on it in the startup much
menu when the option key is held down at boot. Arrow to the right twice and hit 
enter. The recovery for the Mac is in the 2nd position and then the Windows 
link. Press enter and that should do it. This of course if there are no other 
volumes in the startup window is present. HTH.

Eileen

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Fairly common occurrence, unfortunately.
> 
> If you have sight, use the Option key at boot to select Windows and see if it 
> starts and runs.  Even if you don’t, try guessing; hold Option at the chime 
> and then press, say, left and then enter.
> 
> You can use the bless command from Terminal to set up the boot device.  I can 
> describe how, but the steps are quite involved, so it would be nice if you 
> could use the Option-key method first.
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Re: problems with Itunes

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Hi,

Have you tried turning on Quick Nav and pressing the up/down keys together at 
once? I sometimes need to do that when in a checkbox when nothing else works. 
HTH.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 In the last couple of weeks, I have not been able to select apps in the grid 
 view of my apps that need to be updated. I can’t select them to read the info 
 about what’s new in this update. If I VO space on the app, nothing happens. I 
 also cannot bring up the context menu.  
 
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Re: Install9ng Win7 in Bootcamp

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Hi,

I just went :www.applevis.com and opened the guides link and then tapped on the 
Mac OS link. I right flicked until I heard How to configure Windows in 
bootcamp without sight. Like I said in a previous post, the screens may not be 
in the same order as stated in this article. My question to you as I started to 
read it again, is: Are you using an ofbicial copy of Windows 7? Please forgive 
me, as this was one of the first items discussed in the article and I'm not 
suggesting anything by this question. There's something that Apple doesn't 
like. Although I did call Apple accessibility when attempting this project, 
they would go as far as troubleshooting the Apple side. Have you tried 
downloading the ISO version of Windows 7 from Microsoft? I have take a look in 
my download folder on the Mac to see if I still have it. If I do, I can send it 
to you off list. Let me know and I'll post either way if I still have the 
download file.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:59 AM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   Tried again today and let Bootcamp run thru the steps.
 
   The Windows files are copied to the thumb drive. After the Bootcamp drivers 
 are downloaded and saved, I get a dialog prompting me for password then a 
 helper is is intalled, Then I get a quit button and that is it and I am left 
 with a phamtom system dialog window.
 
   If I start up with the boot menu and select the Windows drive, I get the 
 blank screen. I must be missing something.
 
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 On 8/19/2015 1:42 PM, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You may need to do a force shutdown of the Mac or if it's off, press the 
 power button while holding down the option button at the same time. This 
 will bring up ' the startup dialog box. There should be some different disk 
 drives listed, but get ready for this one because voiceover doesn't speak on 
 this screen. Before attemting to jump over this hurdle, I made sure that the 
 screen brightness was cranked up 100%. This way I was pretty sure if I 
 needed to use Knfb Reader from the phone, I had enough light to capture the 
 print. Somewhere in that list should be your thumb drive, but I'm not sure 
 how Apple will label it. You should be able to  start the Windows 
 installation from there. I'll have to dig out my notes later to see if I'm 
 missing anything.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:06 PM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Eileen,
   Thanks. The screen was definitely blank. After I rebooted this morning, I 
 made sure of what had been successfuly done. The Windows partition was the 
 right size but not formatted to NTFS. I never got to the point of telling 
 the Windows installer to format the partition. I verified that Bootcamp had 
 copied the Windows files from the ISO image to the thumb drive and those 
 files appear to be intact. I have the Bootcamp drivers ready on another 
 thumb drive.
 
   I do not see an option in Bootcamp to start the Windows installer on the 
 thumb drive. How am I to proceed from here? Thanks.
 
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 On 8/19/2015 12:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I’m not sure if this will help you, but I had all sorts of issues a few 
 months ago getting Win 8.1 installed. I have a CD media disk for Windows, 
 but I also download the ISO version as well. At least on the Win 8.0 side 
 of the installation, there’s no speech, as you well know. I also had handy 
 the article posted from Applevis on how to install Windows without sight. 
 Even though the order of the screens were not in the same order explained 
 in that article, it gave me the necessary keystrokes to assist in the 
 installation process of Windows. In this tedious task, I also used KNFB 
 Reader from my phone to read the screen, and the app BeMyEyes” to access 
 sighted assistance. The last resort I used was FaceTime with an sighted AT 
 support friend. When you get to the screen where you need to select the 
 bootcamp drive (usually in the 4th position or arrow down 3 times), you 
 will need to reformat the disk. The “Next” button is all the way in the 
 bottom right hand corner (if memor
 y
 serves), which was not accessible with the command ALT-N. This is where I 
 needed the FaceTime sighted assistance in using the trackpad and detailed 
 directions on when the mouse cursor was exactly on the button to perform a 
 left click. I performed the left click from the trackpad. Once you get 
 through this tedious and frustrating task, you still need to install the 
 bootcamp drivers from your USB thumb drive. I hope this helps in getting 
 your Windows 7 OS installed into bootcamp.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:56 AM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote

Re: Install9ng Win7 in Bootcamp

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

Since you will be on the Windows side, I would pull up the run dialog box with 
the Windows and R. I'm just guessing that the thumb drive will be in disk E. 
So, type E:\ and press B for bootcamp and press enter. Press S for setup. 
This should work if you opened the right drive that the thumb drive is on.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:20 PM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Sabahattin and Eileen,
   Finally. I thuutgh I would try disconnecting all USB devices except the one 
 thumb drive. Then that screen came up.
 
   Yes it was tedious but I made doubly sure that I was actually on the 
 Bootcamp partition before I proceeded. I did boot into Windows then booted 
 into OS X so I know both survived.
 
   I probably need to manually install the Bootcamp drivers. And set up 
 Windows. How can I tell if the Bootcamp drivers did get installed?
 
   Thanks. Am happy to have gotten this accomplished.
 
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 On 8/20/2015 3:46 PM, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just went :www.applevis.com and opened the guides link and then tapped on 
 the Mac OS link. I right flicked until I heard How to configure Windows in 
 bootcamp without sight. Like I said in a previous post, the screens may not 
 be in the same order as stated in this article. My question to you as I 
 started to read it again, is: Are you using an ofbicial copy of Windows 7? 
 Please forgive me, as this was one of the first items discussed in the 
 article and I'm not suggesting anything by this question. There's something 
 that Apple doesn't like. Although I did call Apple accessibility when 
 attempting this project, they would go as far as troubleshooting the Apple 
 side. Have you tried downloading the ISO version of Windows 7 from 
 Microsoft? I have take a look in my download folder on the Mac to see if I 
 still have it. If I do, I can send it to you off list. Let me know and I'll 
 post either way if I still have the download file.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:59 AM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   Tried again today and let Bootcamp run thru the steps.
 
   The Windows files are copied to the thumb drive. After the Bootcamp 
 drivers are downloaded and saved, I get a dialog prompting me for password 
 then a helper is is intalled, Then I get a quit button and that is it and I 
 am left with a phamtom system dialog window.
 
   If I start up with the boot menu and select the Windows drive, I get the 
 blank screen. I must be missing something.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 8/19/2015 1:42 PM, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You may need to do a force shutdown of the Mac or if it's off, press the 
 power button while holding down the option button at the same time. This 
 will bring up ' the startup dialog box. There should be some different 
 disk drives listed, but get ready for this one because voiceover doesn't 
 speak on this screen. Before attemting to jump over this hurdle, I made 
 sure that the screen brightness was cranked up 100%. This way I was pretty 
 sure if I needed to use Knfb Reader from the phone, I had enough light to 
 capture the print. Somewhere in that list should be your thumb drive, but 
 I'm not sure how Apple will label it. You should be able to  start the 
 Windows installation from there. I'll have to dig out my notes later to 
 see if I'm missing anything.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:06 PM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Eileen,
   Thanks. The screen was definitely blank. After I rebooted this morning, 
 I made sure of what had been successfuly done. The Windows partition was 
 the right size but not formatted to NTFS. I never got to the point of 
 telling the Windows installer to format the partition. I verified that 
 Bootcamp had copied the Windows files from the ISO image to the thumb 
 drive and those files appear to be intact. I have the Bootcamp drivers 
 ready on another thumb drive.
 
   I do not see an option in Bootcamp to start the Windows installer on 
 the thumb drive. How am I to proceed from here? Thanks.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 8/19/2015 12:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I’m not sure if this will help you, but I had all sorts of issues a few 
 months ago getting Win 8.1 installed. I have a CD media disk for 
 Windows, but I also download the ISO version as well. At least on the 
 Win 8.0 side of the installation, there’s no speech, as you well know. I 
 also had handy the article posted from Applevis on how to install 
 Windows without sight. Even though the order of the screens were not in 
 the same

Re: Install9ng Win7 in Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I’m not sure if this will help you, but I had all sorts of issues a few months 
ago getting Win 8.1 installed. I have a CD media disk for Windows, but I also 
download the ISO version as well. At least on the Win 8.0 side of the 
installation, there’s no speech, as you well know. I also had handy the article 
posted from Applevis on how to install Windows without sight. Even though the 
order of the screens were not in the same order explained in that article, it 
gave me the necessary keystrokes to assist in the installation process of 
Windows. In this tedious task, I also used KNFB Reader from my phone to read 
the screen, and the app BeMyEyes” to access sighted assistance. The last resort 
I used was FaceTime with an sighted AT support friend. When you get to the 
screen where you need to select the bootcamp drive (usually in the 4th position 
or arrow down 3 times), you will need to reformat the disk. The “Next” button 
is all the way in the bottom right hand corner (if memory serves), which was 
not accessible with the command ALT-N. This is where I needed the FaceTime 
sighted assistance in using the trackpad and detailed directions on when the 
mouse cursor was exactly on the button to perform a left click. I performed the 
left click from the trackpad. Once you get through this tedious and frustrating 
task, you still need to install the bootcamp drivers from your USB thumb drive. 
I hope this helps in getting your Windows 7 OS installed into bootcamp. 

Best, 
Eileen 
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:56 AM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   Update. Had to reset PRAM. The Mac side is fine. The Bootcamp partition is 
 there as well. Its not formatted with NTFS because the Windows install did 
 not get that far.
 
   Not certain what went wrong but the Mac had apparently crashed which was 
 resolved by resetting the PRAM. How should I proceed from here? Thanks.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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 On 8/18/2015 11:54 AM, E.T. wrote:
 Hello,
I started this project this morning. I have gotten as far as
 resizing the partition for Windows. At what point will speech not be
 available? I am not sure the actual Windows install has started yet. If
 the Mac restarted, its not apparent, the screen is blank. What next?
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Install9ng Win7 in Bootcamp

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

You may need to do a force shutdown of the Mac or if it's off, press the power 
button while holding down the option button at the same time. This will bring 
up ' the startup dialog box. There should be some different disk drives listed, 
but get ready for this one because voiceover doesn't speak on this screen. 
Before attemting to jump over this hurdle, I made sure that the screen 
brightness was cranked up 100%. This way I was pretty sure if I needed to use 
Knfb Reader from the phone, I had enough light to capture the print. Somewhere 
in that list should be your thumb drive, but I'm not sure how Apple will label 
it. You should be able to  start the Windows installation from there. I'll have 
to dig out my notes later to see if I'm missing anything. 

Best,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:06 PM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Eileen,
   Thanks. The screen was definitely blank. After I rebooted this morning, I 
 made sure of what had been successfuly done. The Windows partition was the 
 right size but not formatted to NTFS. I never got to the point of telling the 
 Windows installer to format the partition. I verified that Bootcamp had 
 copied the Windows files from the ISO image to the thumb drive and those 
 files appear to be intact. I have the Bootcamp drivers ready on another thumb 
 drive.
 
   I do not see an option in Bootcamp to start the Windows installer on the 
 thumb drive. How am I to proceed from here? Thanks.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 8/19/2015 12:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I’m not sure if this will help you, but I had all sorts of issues a few 
 months ago getting Win 8.1 installed. I have a CD media disk for Windows, 
 but I also download the ISO version as well. At least on the Win 8.0 side of 
 the installation, there’s no speech, as you well know. I also had handy the 
 article posted from Applevis on how to install Windows without sight. Even 
 though the order of the screens were not in the same order explained in that 
 article, it gave me the necessary keystrokes to assist in the installation 
 process of Windows. In this tedious task, I also used KNFB Reader from my 
 phone to read the screen, and the app BeMyEyes” to access sighted 
 assistance. The last resort I used was FaceTime with an sighted AT support 
 friend. When you get to the screen where you need to select the bootcamp 
 drive (usually in the 4th position or arrow down 3 times), you will need to 
 reformat the disk. The “Next” button is all the way in the bottom right hand 
 corner (if memory
 serves), which was not accessible with the command ALT-N. This is where I 
 needed the FaceTime sighted assistance in using the trackpad and detailed 
 directions on when the mouse cursor was exactly on the button to perform a 
 left click. I performed the left click from the trackpad. Once you get 
 through this tedious and frustrating task, you still need to install the 
 bootcamp drivers from your USB thumb drive. I hope this helps in getting your 
 Windows 7 OS installed into bootcamp.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:56 AM, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   Update. Had to reset PRAM. The Mac side is fine. The Bootcamp partition 
 is there as well. Its not formatted with NTFS because the Windows install 
 did not get that far.
 
   Not certain what went wrong but the Mac had apparently crashed which was 
 resolved by resetting the PRAM. How should I proceed from here? Thanks.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 8/18/2015 11:54 AM, E.T. wrote:
 Hello,
I started this project this morning. I have gotten as far as
 resizing the partition for Windows. At what point will speech not be
 available? I am not sure the actual Windows install has started yet. If
 the Mac restarted, its not apparent, the screen is blank. What next?
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Importing an iTunes Book from the Mac to Voice Dream Reader on the iPhone

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Matt,

I appreciate you posting this. I did read this in the Voice Dream help folder. 
I'm not a fan of iBooks, so for now I'm trying to get use to the odd navigation 
in iBooks. I have paired the Apex to both the iPhone and Mac to see which will 
be a less frustrating experience for me to ascertain the technical content of 
the textbook. 

Best,
Eileen 

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 On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello, unfortunately, you cannot put DM books, such as those from iBooks onto 
 voice dream.
 You may have to obtain the book somewhere else.
 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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 On Aug 10, 2015, at 11:33, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All, 
 
 I have read the instructions from Voice Dream Reader to import a book 
 purchased from iTunes. I can view the book in iBooks on both my MacBook Air 
 and iPhone6, but the navigation aspects of both sites are less than desired. 
 I would like to import the book into Voice Dream Reader where I can have 
 better navigation of lines or paragraphs. The book is highly technical in 
 nature, so I need to have the ability of finer tuning in the book. I have 
 synced the book through iTunes to my iPhone6. I have located where the iTunes 
 Media is stored on my Mac, but when I check it out, there is no book 
 subfolder with the book listed. Do I need to sync back the book? Is there 
 another location I need to look in? Please advise as I am perplexed in why I 
 can’t see the book subfolder in the music folder under iTunes. 
 
 thanks in advance. 
 
 Eileen 
 
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Importing an iTunes Book from the Mac to Voice Dream Reader on the iPhone

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

I have read the instructions from Voice Dream Reader to import a book purchased 
from iTunes. I can view the book in iBooks on both my MacBook Air and iPhone6, 
but the navigation aspects of both sites are less than desired. I would like to 
import the book into Voice Dream Reader where I can have better navigation of 
lines or paragraphs. The book is highly technical in nature, so I need to have 
the ability of finer tuning in the book. I have synced the book through iTunes 
to my iPhone6. I have located where the iTunes Media is stored on my Mac, but 
when I check it out, there is no book subfolder with the book listed. Do I need 
to sync back the book? Is there another location I need to look in? Please 
advise as I am perplexed in why I can’t see the book subfolder in the music 
folder under iTunes. 

thanks in advance. 

Eileen 

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Re: Capturing Back GB After Deleting Files From An External Hard Drive

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Tim, 

Thanks for the missing link. I didn’t do that at first, but completed emptying 
the trash and now I have recovered all of the missing GBs. Thanks again. I’ll 
have to remember the last step when I need to recover lost space in the future. 

Best, 
Eileen  
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Did you empty the trash after deleting the files?  If not, then the space is 
 not freed up.  If you deleted the items while using a different machine, you 
 must empty the trash or recycler on that machine first as you can't empty the 
 trash that was created from a different machine or user.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 14:05, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Folks, 
 
 Please forgive me if this was recently discussed, but I can’t find the emails 
 in the subject line in my inbox on the computer. I just deleted some files 
 that were on an external disk of about 90 GB. When I go to the disk utility, 
 it still states that the drive is minused the 90 GB. How do I go about fixing 
 this, so the disk utility is showing the correct amount of disk storage on 
 this drive? 
 
 Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a repeat. 
 
 Best, 
 eileen 
 
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Capturing Back GB After Deleting Files From An External Hard Drive

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello Folks, 

Please forgive me if this was recently discussed, but I can’t find the emails 
in the subject line in my inbox on the computer. I just deleted some files that 
were on an external disk of about 90 GB. When I go to the disk utility, it 
still states that the drive is minused the 90 GB. How do I go about fixing 
this, so the disk utility is showing the correct amount of disk storage on this 
drive? 

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a repeat. 

Best, 
eileen 

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Re: reclaiming space on hard drive

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Hello,

Have you tried a disk cleaner such as Disk Doctor (free!, Quick Cleaner (free)? 
Just a thought.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 31, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No it is empty.
 
 On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:00 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 If you open the trash, is there still anything in it?
 
 CB
 
 On 7/31/15 10:43 AM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I’ve just noticed the usage on my Mac HD is getting more full than I like.
 I’ve just deleted several gigs of data, and I am not seeing the space freed 
 up like I expected. Only a couple hundred megs freed up. I have emptied the 
 trash, and am not sure what I need to do to see this newly emptied space.
 I’ve even restarted the Mac to see if something was hanging.
 Any advice is appreciated.
 Thank you.
 
 
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Re: ms office 2016 for mac

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Denise,

From my recollection, a hardcopy of MS office for the Mac won't be available 
until the fall. The only way right now to have access to it is through Office 
365. HTH.

Eileen

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 On Jul 30, 2015, at 6:20 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Go to
 
 www.microsoft.com/office
 
 on that page you will find the entire seuite for office or you can get word 
 and excel as stand alones.
 
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 Subject: ms office 2016 for mac
 
 Hwllo all,
 
 I am wondering  about the overall accessibility for vo with office 2016 on 
 the Mac. I am thinking of getting it since I use the windows version at work, 
 and other major endeavors. I use pages and text edit for some other things, 
 but still find there are situations when ms word is necessary. if I don’t 
 have access to office 365, how would I get office 2016 without getting 365? 
 thanks.
 I would say what I really need are word and excell. I can do without outlook.
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Re: Text boxes in Pages?

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Ann,

Before I think about diving into Pages myself, I was wondering if this is 
possible with Pages after all the placemarkers are set? Is there a way to place 
the document in protective mode and then use the tab key to jump from one place 
marker to another or will the keystroke VO-J accomplish this action? This would 
speed up the process in filling out the document before submitting all 
documents to an agency for billing purposes. Please forgive me for relating the 
content to Word, but I'm a converter from the PC world and although I have 
joined the Mac world for the most part, I still go back to the PC side to 
expedite a task that I can complete in an efficient manner. One of these days 
I'll totally make the switch and take the plunge. I value your knowledge base 
in using the iWorks suite. Thanks for listening and I'll save this thread for 
future use.

Kind regards,
Eileen




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 On Jul 26, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I was. Oddly, switching out of, then back to, Pages seemed to get it working. 
 One final question on placeholder text: when I read the line holding the 
 text, I hear only the placeholder. For example:
 
 Client name: [client name placeholder]
 
 If I read that line, I hear the embedded object sound, client name 
 placeholder, then the end embedded object sound. The rest of the line 
 doesn't read at all. Is this expected behavior?
 On Jul 26, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 You have to press the VO-Tab command before each time you use the 
 Ctrl-Option-Cmd-t Make placeholder text command but it should work every 
 time. I’ve been using this for years, and in Pages09 I created a different 
 shortcut for Make placeholder text to avoid having to use the VO-Tab command.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Jul 2015, at 14:45, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, this is exactly what I was after. The problem is that it only 
 worked once. I used it successfully on one line, then tried to repeat the 
 process on the next line. The hotkey does nothing, and my selected text is 
 de-selected. Is there something I have to do before I can use this mode 
 again?
 On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 I think you’d find placeholder text a better way for entering text that 
 changes. Just type in some typical text in the format you want, then 
 select that text, press VO-Tab for VO to ignore next key press, then press 
 Ctrl-Option-Cmd-t to make it placeholder text. When using your template, 
 the placeholder text will be highlighted when you navigate to it using 
 just the arrow keys, and typing will replace it but keep the formatting.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 26 Jul 2015, at 00:58, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey list,
 I'm trying, once more, to get more into Pages. Hopefully, this time, I 
 can make myself stick with it long enough to get a handle on this thing.
 
 Currently, I have a few basic questions: I'm making a template I can use 
 to fill out client reports and bills (I'm an AT instructor and have to 
 email my clients this information). I thought I'd put text boxes in where 
 I'll be entering text that can change, and just type the text that won't. 
 Here's a super simple example:
 
 Alex Hall
 [auto-inserted date]
 
 Client Name: [text box for client name]
 Number of Hours: [text box for hours]
 
 You get the idea. I'm running into a few questions, though.
 
 1. How do I get the text box to fit the height of the line of text it's 
 on? VO reports that it's 1.2 inches tall, which strikes me as rather 
 large.
 2. Do I even need a text box, or am I trying to use one where a different 
 item would work better?
 3. If I do need one, how can I insert text around it? I inserted one, but 
 even if I go to the end of the line and hit return, then type, the box is 
 pushed along to the end of my new line of text instead of staying where I 
 put it.
 
 Thanks in advance for any answers anyone can provide.
 
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 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
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Re: Text boxes in Pages?

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Alex,

I commend you. I can create an accessible form with Word 2010 or 2013, but I 
have stayed away from Pages. In Word, the developer's tab needs to be 
activated. Is there something equal to that in Pages? This is something that I 
would do on the PC side and save it as a DOCX file access on the Mac side. Good 
luck and I am interested on how you were able to complete this task. 

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 25, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey list,
 I'm trying, once more, to get more into Pages. Hopefully, this time, I can 
 make myself stick with it long enough to get a handle on this thing.
 
 Currently, I have a few basic questions: I'm making a template I can use to 
 fill out client reports and bills (I'm an AT instructor and have to email my 
 clients this information). I thought I'd put text boxes in where I'll be 
 entering text that can change, and just type the text that won't. Here's a 
 super simple example:
 
 Alex Hall
 [auto-inserted date]
 
 Client Name: [text box for client name]
 Number of Hours: [text box for hours]
 
 You get the idea. I'm running into a few questions, though.
 
 1. How do I get the text box to fit the height of the line of text it's on? 
 VO reports that it's 1.2 inches tall, which strikes me as rather large.
 2. Do I even need a text box, or am I trying to use one where a different 
 item would work better?
 3. If I do need one, how can I insert text around it? I inserted one, but 
 even if I go to the end of the line and hit return, then type, the box is 
 pushed along to the end of my new line of text instead of staying where I put 
 it.
 
 Thanks in advance for any answers anyone can provide.
 
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 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 
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Re: Pros and cons of a Mac mini

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Pam and All,

I agree with you, Mary. The OS on a Mac whatever is nothing like using Windows 
and I'm not sure what classic view is. For me, I needed the portability of 
the Air because I travel a lot for my work. I have used the PC OS since 1989 
until approximately 2 years ago when I ventured into the Mac world. Pam, for 
me, the learning curve was huge, but I seemed to master the Mac OS in about 3 
months. It's not to say that I'm not learning something new everyday because I 
am. Because I need certain software programs including Office 2010, I installed 
Window 8.1 into BootCamp. I needed to have access to a word processor that I am 
familiar with, Duxbury, and Money Talks, which I can print out, checks. If only 
there was a Mac version of the above mentioned that had the same functionality, 
I would ditch the Windows environment altogether. The last comment I'll make on 
all of this is that the learning curve with JAWS and Windows 8.1 was minor to 
learning how voiceover interfaced with the Mac OS. I hope this helps your 
friend Pam in making an informed decision. Good luck on the decision process.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello folks,
 Your candid feedback is priceless both pro  con. I am eternally grateful to 
 all of you.
 I'm constantly reminded as to why I joined this group. 
 Thank you many times over.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Kliph kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I have owned the MacBook Pro, and the MacBook air, and I now own the macmini, 
 have been using it for almost 3 years.  And I wouldnt trade it for either the 
 pro or the air.  
 1. I can do everything from my phone that I can do on my Mac.
 2.  I have a bt keybord, and bt headset, so I am not confined to my desk, so 
 I guess you can say I have a make shift pro or air, but much lighter.  I use 
 the logitech 811, and it works beautifully.  It goes for about 80 bucks, but 
 there are other options that are much cheaper.
 3.  The macmini does provide a lot of processor and hard drive space, to me 
 you get more bang for your buck.  I sold all my PC's computers 5 years ago 
 before I got my first iMac, and taught myself the mac cold turkey, no windows 
 machine to fall back on if I got frustrated.  And once I got the hang of it.  
 It gets easier the more you use it.  I am still learning, but I would never 
 go back to PC if someone gave me one.  Now I still have to use it for work, 
 but home personal stuff is mac all the way.   I run a apple support group 
 myself, and will send you that info later.  But the 1 thing to tell your 
 friend, is learning the mac will be like learning a whole new system, nothing 
 about windows and Mac is the same at all.  Good luck, and hope this helped 
 you.
 
 
 Transmitted from the Delta Quadrant
 
 On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pam,
 I think the advice you have gotten for your friend about sticking with 
 Windows is probably good. However, I don't agree with the folks who say if 
 you're going to buy, get an air, not a mini, and here's why. 
 
 It is true that with a mini, you must buy a keyboard and speakers. And I 
 think you still need a monitor, although those are cheap, and if he has a 
 Windows machine with the monitor, he probably already has something that 
 would work. The cost of the mini would probably come up to be about the cost 
 of an air if you add those things in, depending on the price of the speakers 
 of course. You would end up with better speakers, of course. You would also 
 have the possibility of getting a full keyboard including the keypad, which 
 does not come on the air. That gives you two sets of complete arrow keys 
 plus the keypad which you can use with the keypad commander. Also, the mini 
 is more powerful than the air, that is better processor more RAM more 
 storage. So, unless portability is a big deal, I think the mini is a better 
 thing. Maybe I'm prejudiced, because I have one. I would not trade it for an 
 air, unless I needed that portability.
 Mary
 
 
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 On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I have a friend who is considering purchasing a Mac mini. The basic reason 
 for wanting the Mac Mini is cost. He also does not want to take the time to 
 learn windows eight or windows 10. He's been stuck on Windows XP since long 
 before support stopped last year. His only dealings with voiceover is with 
 iOS devices along with his AppleTV. He is not one who does well with major 
 change in electronics in his life. I don't want to turn this into an Apple 
 versus Windows discussion other than to say I suggested he look for a 
 Windows 7 machine because it was something  that he is familiar with. My 
 question for the group is this; other than the base cost, as I understand 
 it of $699 for the Mac Mini, what are the auxiliary 

Re: not getting all of my emails

[eileen . misrahi]

Hello,

The imap port is 993 not 995, which is for a pop setting. HTH. 

Eileen 

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 On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rebecca, 
 
 It sounds like something isn’t right with the username or password. 
 
 Click on Windows menu  connection-doctor and verify the settings there. 
 
 In particular you should check the Imap port and ensure that the port is set 
 to 995. 
 
 Hope this helps. 
 
 Best regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Diploma of International Business candidate 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 Blog: 
 
 Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 On 23 Jul 2015, at 11:10 pm, Rebecca A Sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am looking at my emails on my mack this morning.  I do not have all of my 
 emails that I have on my iPhone?  Am I doing something wrong or why art they 
 all looking the same ?
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: not getting all of my emails

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No problem.

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 On Jul 23, 2015, at 7:04 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My mistake. Thanks for picking that up. 
 
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 On 23 Jul 2015, at 11:59 pm, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 The imap port is 993 not 995, which is for a pop setting. HTH. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Sadam Ahmed sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rebecca, 
 
 It sounds like something isn’t right with the username or password. 
 
 Click on Windows menu  connection-doctor and verify the settings there. 
 
 In particular you should check the Imap port and ensure that the port is 
 set to 995. 
 
 Hope this helps. 
 
 Best regards, 
 
 Sadam Ahmed 
 
 Diploma of International Business candidate 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 Blog: 
 
 Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
 
 Sent using OS X Mail 
 
 
 
 
 On 23 Jul 2015, at 11:10 pm, Rebecca A Sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I am looking at my emails on my mack this morning.  I do not have all of 
 my emails that I have on my iPhone?  Am I doing something wrong or why art 
 they all looking the same ?
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: Netflix and apple tv

[eileen . misrahi]

Well!!! I join the ranks of owning a second generation Apple TV too. Waiting 
for the new release sometime the near future. At least I know I'm in good 
company who are in the same boat.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Considering that they're $69.95 new, I doubt you'd get a lot cheaper for a 
 refurb, if indeed they sell them as refurb. 
 
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 On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Darn! 
 That is disappointing! Hmm. I’ll have to see if I can pickup a refurrbished 
 one.
 On Jul 22, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Same. Sarai, I think yu and I are out of luck. We don't get the latest 
 AppleTV OS, which is probably where this stuff exists, so we've got to buy 
 new AppleTV's. I'm waiting do see if anything interesting happens on that 
 front in the next little bit before I do anything about that. I don't watch 
 enough TV to warrant hurrying. 
 
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 Hello:
 I have a 2nd gen Apple TV. I cannot get audio description to activate. I 
 tried pressing and holding select while a show is playing, and none of the 
 language options appear, or if they appear, VO won’t read them. I’ve tried 
 signing back out and in to Netflix again. My Apple TV rebooted during a 
 storm, so it reset. I’m running the latest iOS. Any idea?
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Re: question about update

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Hi Gigi, 

I’m assuming you have updated to 10.10.4? I was waiting to hear if there were 
any major bugs that I should wait for a fix. What have you seen that is 
different from 10.10.3? I appreciate your assessment of the new update. 

Thanks. 

Eileen 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 5:41 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there 
 I guess it depends on whether you want the latest update ASAP when it comes 
 out. I keep my Mac updated, even if I pay for it later. That way, if there 
 needs to be changes to anything related to VoiceOver, I can provide 
 information to Apple. I think you just made a typing mistake when you said 
 IOS. If it was your MacBookAir that said that, then it is under OSX 10 point 
 something or other. 
 
 Gigi 
 
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 mailto:gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 When I turn on my macbook air it asks:
 automatically update ios 10?
 Should I answer yes? If so, how? I hit VO space, but nothing happens. A few 
 days ago it said that there were some updates. I went to store and I updated.
 Thanks,
 Rena
  
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Re: Difficulty Using Latest Build of Word 2016 Entering Text

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Ann,

Thanks for taking the time to check this out for me. When I go back upstairs to 
my computer, I'll put your response in a safe place where I can find it for 
future use.

Thanks again.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 18, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Eileen,
 
 When I open Word, I hear: Word Open new and recent files dialog”. I can 
 interact with the templates grid, open an existing document or create a new 
 one.
 
 
 On 18 Jul 2015, at 00:41, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 1. When adding bullets to a list, does VO announce the bullet or if one has 
 been inserted.
 
 AR No, you have to look at the paragraph format dialogue (Cmd-Option-m) to 
 see the indents, and it doesn’t show which kind of bullet is selected.
 
 2. I know you have explained how to ad heading styles before, but is there a 
 simple keystroke like on the PC side with the other screen readers to insert 
 them?
 AR You can assign a keystroke to any style. I tested this with the keystroke 
 Option-F4 which isn’t used for anything else.
 
 3. Also with heading styles, can you get confirmation that the heading style 
 has been added.
 AR When you add the style, VoiceOver reads the attributes. But you can also 
 set a hotspot on the styles and have VoiceOver monitor it or just check it 
 whenever you want to know.
 4. Are you able to create labels or envelopes without using the contacts 
 that are in ones contact app. There are times when I need to send out 
 correspondence and the contact isn't in my contact app nor do I want to 
 spend valuable time inserting it for a one time use.
 AR I’ve tested a sheet of labels and you can type in whatever address you 
 like. However, it wasn’t easy to make sense of it. I had to interact with 
 each cell, bring the mouse and do two VO-Shift-Space clicks for the pseudo 
 text to show up. Some fields are difficult to find and you’ll just have to 
 learn how to handle your favourite templates. However, the Mail Merge 
 facility appears to work well.
 
 I hope this answers your questions.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Difficulty Using Latest Build of Word 2016 Entering Text

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

This is a new thread relating to the beta version of Office 2016. I am hoping 
that someone can shed some light on this and get me back up and running. I am 
running Word 15.11.2 on my MacBook Air. When I open Word, I am presented with 
the document pane. I interact with it and then interact with the text field. 
When I attempt to enter text, there is no voiceover feedback. I attempt to 
route the mouse cursor to voiceover with VO-Shift-F5, but I receive a message 
that it can’t be done. I’m assuming that there is no text being entered into 
the edit field, as when I arrow right or left by itself I get dinged. I do not 
subscribe to Office 365, as I know this version has gone live or released for 
those who are subscribed. Is this the ticket to use the beta version? I 
wouldn’t think so, but anything can go with MS these days. Any advice would be 
terrific to be able to use Word in the beta format to see if any of my concerns 
from the previous builds have been fixed. Fortunately, I have access to Office 
2010 in BootCamp on this machine, but it would be nice not to have to boot into 
it, so I can run all the important features from the Mac side. 

Thanks in advance for your suggestions and problem solving this issue. 

Warmest regards, 
Eileen 

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Re: Difficulty Using Latest Build of Word 2016 Entering Text

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

Yes, but for those with Office 365. I guess this negates the beta. Because of 
the behavior between Word 2016 and voiceover, I'll will be forced to stick with 
the PC version. I perform several different markups in my docs when producing 
accessible text for my clients, which most use a PC screen reader. Thanks for 
the confirmation that the product is out of beta. For those who are using the 
final software, how accessible is it running with voiceover? 

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Are you aware the final build is out? :)
 On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All, 
 
 This is a new thread relating to the beta version of Office 2016. I am 
 hoping that someone can shed some light on this and get me back up and 
 running. I am running Word 15.11.2 on my MacBook Air. When I open Word, I am 
 presented with the document pane. I interact with it and then interact with 
 the text field. When I attempt to enter text, there is no voiceover 
 feedback. I attempt to route the mouse cursor to voiceover with VO-Shift-F5, 
 but I receive a message that it can’t be done. I’m assuming that there is no 
 text being entered into the edit field, as when I arrow right or left by 
 itself I get dinged. I do not subscribe to Office 365, as I know this 
 version has gone live or released for those who are subscribed. Is this the 
 ticket to use the beta version? I wouldn’t think so, but anything can go 
 with MS these days. Any advice would be terrific to be able to use Word in 
 the beta format to see if any of my concerns from the previous builds have 
 been fixed. Fortunately, I have access to Office 2010 in BootCamp on this 
 machine, but it would be nice not to have to boot into it, so I can run all 
 the important features from the Mac side. 
 
 Thanks in advance for your suggestions and problem solving this issue. 
 
 Warmest regards, 
 Eileen 
 
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Re: Difficulty Using Latest Build of Word 2016 Entering Text

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Hi Ann,

I wish I get the same options you do, but when I open Word the home ribbon tab 
is where the VO cursor lands. When I arrow through the ribbon tabs, I finally 
come to the options to either activate a purchased copy or to buy a copy. I 
have linked on that option and I'm brought to the Office website page to 
purchase a copy of Office 365. Since I'm not able to confirm if certain 
attributes have been fix, can you confirm the below items for me as being 
accessible with VO? 

1. When adding bullets to a list, does VO announce the bullet or if one has 
been inserted.
2. I know you have explained how to ad heading styles before, but is there a 
simple keystroke like on the PC side with the other screen readers to insert 
them? 
3. Also with heading styles, can you get confirmation that the heading style 
has been added.
4. Are you able to create labels or envelopes without using the contacts that 
are in ones contact app. There are times when I need to send out correspondence 
and the contact isn't in my contact app nor do I want to spend valuable time 
inserting it for a one time use.

All of the above mentioned can be done on the PC side using one of the screen 
readers. Please forgive me for such a long post, but at this time I'm not able 
to check these items out for myself.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
Eileen

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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Eileen,
 
 I’m using the same version as you and when I open Word, I’m presented with a 
 screen where I have to choose between opening an existing document or 
 creating a new one.
 When I create a new document, I interact with the layout area and then with 
 the document, and I can type into my document just fine.
 To save time, I pasted in a few pages from a plain text document and made my 
 document three pages long with no trouble.
 The next page VO command also works fine for me.
 On the whole, it’s looking reasonably accessible and I’ll certainly be buying 
 Office for the Mac.
 I still prefer Pages, but it’s useful to have Word to check that everything 
 has been converted correctly.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi There,

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
replying to this thread.

Thanks.

Warmest regards,
Eileen

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 On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
 if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a 
 word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is 
 spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
 /Krister
 
 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
 VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go 
 to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
 i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
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Re: Duxbury Printer Help with Virtual Windows Image

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

I'm taking a long shot on this. Have you tried to connect the USB of the 
embosser first to see what port it takes? Although you stated that the virtual 
USB ports are not showing up, I thought this may be something to try to trip 
it. I use BootCamp and had no difficulty installing the embosser on the generic 
printer. 

Best,
Eileen

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 On Jul 14, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Emilio Hernandez emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 The subject line is quite clear.
 I have installed Duxbury on my virtual image of Windows, but I cannot figure 
 out how to ad a “virtual USB” port for the embosser?
 I am mirroring my Windows configuration because this  is presume to be ideal, 
 but my efforts are futile.
 Basically, I do not know what to do since I do not see any virtual ports 
 listed in my printer properties for the Generic Text Printer.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 I am using the same version of Windows 7 on both my laptop and my virtual 
 image of Windows on my iMac.
 
 Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
 
 P.S Thanks to the person who posted how to batch convert files with Amadeus 
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Re: problems setting up a Macbook Pro

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

I agree about using column view. Since I was a Windows user prior to switching, 
this made the most sense and closest view to emulate a tree view found in the 
PC arena. 

Best, 
Eileen experience 
 On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there 
 You shouldn’t have to interact with Finder a lot. Personally, on the Mac, I 
 like column view although others feel differently. If you want column view, 
 press command 3. This will let you go up and down through your folders with 
 just the up and down arrows, and then press right arrow to get the files 
 under that folder. The thing that drove me crazy when I first got my Mac 
 untiul I figured it out was that Enter gets you into rename. You can use the 
 Mac command o to open any file. 
 
 Hope this helps some. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There are a couple of oddities I do not understand. The first is that if I 
 am in a list view, which is the default in finder’s view options, the down 
 arrow will consistently say empty desktop and take me there and out of the 
 list. Up arrow works properly. If I interact, and use the vo commands, the 
 down arrow works properly. I shouldn’t have to do this. I use the arrow keys 
 on other, computers with bluetooth keyboards and do not have to constantly 
 have to interact and use VO.
 
 The other thing is that when I load Nightowl, it constantly makes the error 
 noise and will not allow any authentication of the twitter account. The 
 account is set up in Internet accounts.
 
 This is a Macbook Pro bought used and, supposedly with a clean install of 
 Yosemite.
 
 Help would be very appreciated.
 
 Kristeen
 
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Office For Mac Out Of Beta?

[eileen . misrahi]

Hello Folks,

Not sure if this is OT, but here goes. Have been a beta tester for Office 2016 
for Mac. Since it has been released for Office 365 that the beta version will 
not work anymore? I just updated to the most recent upgrade, opened it up and 
now I feel like I'm back to square one with no text being entered into the 
document field. I would appreciate any advice on this issue.

Thanks in advance.

Warmest regards,
Eileen


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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

[eileen . misrahi]

Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
 of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However,
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes
 match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of,
 what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them,
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to
 apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Re: Clamp no longer to be free

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

May I ask what the cost will be? I haven’t yet updated the app and I’m away 
from my secure network to update until next week. 

Thanks.

Eileen 
 On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 notice after updating Clamxap today there is now a charge for using it after 
 30 days.
 I will pay as I think the App is worth paying fore.
 Max.
 
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Re: Jump back to beginning of branch node

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi,

My question: Does the expansion and collapsing the tree depend upon the view 
one is in? 

Thanks.

Eileen

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 On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey Chris,
 Hope you're doing well buddy. You can also, unless it's changed, use your 
 arrow keys to expand and collapse those categories. Give that a shot.
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Certified Assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh trainer
 Canadian phone: 5199629140
 U.S. Phone: 5734011018
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 11:03, E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 VO-Command-\
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/25/2015 7:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Guys,
 I confess, I really haven't had a need to fool much with asking this
 question in the past, but lately as I'm doing more with my mac, I'm
 finding it to be a bit of an annoyance.
 I'm going to use a particular example in this message, however, realize
 that I'm not speaking just within ITunes here. I'm speaking just in
 general throughout the whole entire OS.  The other night, I was wanting
 to listen to some ITunes internet radio while in bed, seeing that I
 normally keep both my macbooks on the nightstand at the head of my bed.
 So, I got into ITunes internet radio.  I located the table near the
 bottom of the screen and interacted as usual.  Nothing out of the norm.
 I found the country category, and it obviously was collapsed. So, I did
 the logical thing.  I hit vo+backslash and expanded the category.  Once
 done, I vo+down arrowed quite a ways to find the station I needed.  Once
 I did so, I realized they've removed the station.  So I got to thinking,
 maybe it's not in country.  Maybe they moved it under folk, or
 something.  So, I pressed vo+backslash again to collapse the country
 category.  Ding ding ding?  It wouldn't let me.  I finally realized that
 the reason was because I was down inside the expanded node of the
 branch.  In other words, I was inside the expansion.  I wasn't sitting
 out on the top level that I expanded earlier.  Now, I was down inside
 it.  With Windows, it didn't matter.  As long as I was underneath the
 branch I wanted to collapse, or was sitting directly on! the branch, I
 could just hit left arrow.  On the mac, it doesn't seem to be that
 forgiving.  I literally have to be very specifically on the actual item
 which was expanded or collapsed.  So, I'm thinking ok, no biggy, just
 hit left arrow.  That did no good.  Vo+left arrow only took me to the
 previous collumn within the current row of the table which had focus.
 So, the million dollar question:  If you're say, 30, 40, 50, or whatever
 rows deep away from the top node of the tree, surely! Apple doesn't
 expect me to sit here and just vo+up arrow 50 to a hundred times, just
 to get back to the top of the node to collapse it, do they?  Is there
 not a quicker way to jump back to the top of that branch, so I could
 then hit vo+backslash to collapse it?
 If my question doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll try making an
 audio demo later to better explain.
 Chris.
 
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Re: No Sound In Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I did hear that too, but the sound was working for a bit until he opened a game 
to play. There’s one more thing that may have happened. There’s a mute button 
on the function row. This may have been toggle on accidentally. The toggle 
keystroke is: the FN key Plus F10 on the MacBook Air keyboard. I do know that 
my mute button in Win 7 Home Premium on occasions has automatically been 
checked. this has also happened to a client of mine fairly frequently. So, give 
it a try. 

Eileen 
 On May 26, 2015, at 1:37 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Earl, I read the other day that the latest mac laptops only support
 windows 8.1 now in bootcamp. The article said something about you can
 still install windows 7 but you won't get any sound. How old is your
 macbook air?
 Jeff
 
 
 On 5/26/15, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 It's possible that your mute button is checked, which will not allow sound
 through the speakers or headphone jack. Are you able to get to the
 notification center? Which scraen reader are you using in BootCamp? This
 would help to give more accurate assistance. I'm using right now JAWS 16. I
 have my Dell computer open because that's where Win 7 is located. I have Win
 8.1 installed in BootCamp. You can get to the notification center by first
 going to the desktop. and then tab 3 times (that did it for me). I don't
 know what's in your system tray that begins with the letter S, so if
 speakers or sounds is the only thing, than first letter navigation should
 work. Since I have my speaker volume in the system tray, all I needed to do
 was to tab once and that landed me on the mute button. As a note, if you
 have these apps installed on the phone they may help to obtain or verify
 info: BeMyEyes, KNFB Reader, Talking Goggles, or TapTapSee. I have all but
 the last app, which assisted me in installing Win 8.1 into Bootcamp without
 sighted assistance. HTH.
 
 Best,
 Eilcen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 26, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Earle rowdyameri...@shaned.net wrote:
 
 I’m running Windows 7 home premium under bootcamp on my Macbook air.
 Everything has been fine.  I recently used a USB headset to play a game,
 and the audio was fine.  Every time I restart Windows it will only work
 with the headset now.  I tried to choose the Mac’s internal speakers as
 the default sound device, but now can’t get any sound at all in Windows.
 All sound works fine on the Mac side of things.  Any ideas on how to fix
 this would be appreciated.  Even plugging the USB headset in now doesn’t
 work in windows.
 
 —
 
 Earle
 
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Navigating to the ribbon in Office 2015

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

Okay, so I updated to Word 2016 current version and I have toggled on to show 
the ribbon with COMMAND-OPTION-R. Maybe I’m missing something, but I can’t 
navigate to it, so I can see if an additional edit field has been added to send 
my report to Microsoft. This has been very exasperating to say the least in 
sending my input on how to make Word 2016 more accessible to the blind. If 
anyone can shed some light on how to move to the ribbon bar with ease would be 
most appreciated. 

The only item I have tried out so far is the spell checker. At first, the 
automatic correction was turned on, so I made the necessary changes in 
preferences. I like to have control on making my corrections. However, the same 
problem exists where when the spell checker is activated, that the word that is 
misspelled is an image, so voiceover has no chance in voicing the word in 
question. It’s only when I tab over to the suggestion table that I am able to 
know what is the problem. I thought I would comment on which bug is still a bug 
in Word 2016 that I wanted to send to MS. 

Thanks for your assistance. 

Best, 
Eileen 

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RE: Can't check for updates in Microsoft Office

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi George, 

Welcome to my frustration with all of this in Office Word 2016. Not only could 
I not find an edit field for envelopes delivery address, I tried it by 
processing the address in the document, selected all and then access the 
envelope dialog box. No deal this way either. I have similar issues with the 
labels dialog interface. After the discussion the other day on where to find 
the reporting of bugs, I couldn't send anything either. It would be wonderful 
if these simple objects were accessible. Oh well!!! I'll keep trying to use 
Word 2016 on my Mac from time to time. I need to contact my son, in order to 
find out where a good place to send our concerns to. If I get a working email 
address, I will post it on the list. 

Eileen 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't check for updates in Microsoft Office

It is the last item in the ribbon bar to the right says something like help 
Microsoft and then there are 2 choices what we can do better or comments.
I was there this morning and could not find anywhere with v o, to enter any 
text except for where to put my email if I wanted to.

I wanted to let them know that can not enter a delivery address from contacts 
to an envelope and the delivery and return fields are not red in the envelope

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:57
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can't check for updates in Microsoft Office

Hi,
I did what someone suggested and tried to go to the help menu and swipe down 
with the track pad, but to no avail. There is no ”check for updates” only the 
search and help and not a ”check for updates”. I wonder if this has to do with 
the fact that i downloaded the apps separately and not as the Office suite 
because it wasn’t available. I’m very confused now.:-) /Krister

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Office 2016: Sending Feedback On Found Bugs

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

I know that this has been discussed before, but I have missed placed where I 
need to send my feedback to (address) in regards to bugs that or features that 
are not fixed or accessible to voiceover. I would appreciate it if someone 
could post that email address. There are several items that I want to have MS 
address or at least document that these are still bugs for those who need to 
use voiceover. 

Thanks in advance. 

Cheers, 
Eileen  

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Re: Clamxav: The rest of the story?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Alex, 

This is the first time I have had a chance to rescan the computer with Clamxav. 
I just want to confirm if I’m doing this correctly. I get a table of 21 
infected files in a table. I interact with it and press Control-A to select 
all. I open the contextual menu with VO-Shift-M and arrow down to the 
quarantine submenu item and press the return key. However, when I go back to 
the table where the infected files are listed, they are still there. How do I 
know that they have been quarantine? At this point, can I open the contextual 
menu and hit the return key on the clear file button? I would believe that if 
the files are not quarantine first that the infected files will return.I would 
appreciate any assistance with this. 

thanks in advance. 

Best, 
Eileen  
 On May 11, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 What I normally do is go to the table, then hit vo-shift-m and choose the 
 option I want from there. I never even noticed there were unlabeled buttons. 
 smile
 On May 11, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com 
 mailto:miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, press vo plus shift plus H, to see if   the buttons have helped tags to 
 tell you what they do. If they do, you can label them with vo plus/. If they 
 don't, I unfortunately don't know what to tell you.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 11, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello List,
 
 I just downloaded Clamxav. I have ran a scan and, now I have a table of 
 threads found. What are the next steps to quarantine the threads and get 
 rid of them? I have used the CONTROL-A to select all the threads in the 
 table. There are 2 unlabeled buttons, so I'm not sure what they do. Can 
 anyone on the list enlighten me on how to proceed? Any assistance would be 
 appreciated, as I would like to get these nasty threads off my MBA mid 
 2013. 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Seeking Recommendations for Check Writing Software

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

My question regarding Checkbook is: Can you print checks from it? I thought a 
while back that on one of these list serves that that feature was not 
supported. I believe at the time that there wasn’t any Mac app that had that 
feature. That’s one reason why I have BootCamp installed on my Mac. JMO. 

Cheers, 
Eileen 
 On Apr 24, 2015, at 11:37 AM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   There is CheckBook by Splasm Software, and they also have a Pro version. 
 Both are fully functional. The Pro costs more but the non Pro is not a 
 limited version, just does not have features most may not need anyway.
 
   I have yet to work with this app. Its a checkbook register but likely can 
 also print checks (the Pro version probably).
 
   The trial version will allow entry of up to 100 entries (or perhaps only 
 10) so worth testing before you pay for it.
 
 From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
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 On 4/24/2015 11:23 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
 I'm going to ask a possibly stupid question: how does this work? I
 assume it has to print onto the check somehow? Or is it something else?
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 I contacted Premier Technologies a few months agao to see if they had
 a version of Talking Checkbook for the Mac.  They said they don’t even
 support this piece of software and don’t know of anything for the Mac.
 If there is something available to write out  hecks, I would also be
 interested in finding out about it.
 
 
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 All;
 
 I’ve been using Talking Checkbook for check writing on my Windows PC
 for about 10 years.  However with my migration to Mac I’m wondering
 if any similar software is available for Macs?
 
 Any and all suggestions are appreciated!
 * * * * * * * * *
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Re: A question about making headings on different levels with ms word.

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Jamie, 

Thanks for the tip on activating all the style selections. However, I haven’t 
found a keystroke that will work like on the PC side. I did locate a list of 
keystrokes for Word 2016, but the ones for heading styles don’t work for me. It 
would be nice if I had a keystroke to evoke the various heading styles It would 
make my work more efficient. On another note, have you been able to create an 
envelope or label? Since I’m coming from the PC side, the dialog box for this 
on the Mac side is not as straight forward to me. I struggled for a while 
trying to make a simple mailing label the other night, but was not successful 
in the printing of it. It came out blank. I was able to print a label on the PC 
side in Word 2010, so I know that I’m not out of ink. Again, thanks for the 
tip. 

Cheers, 
Eileen 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Place your cursor in the paragraph where you want to apply the style. Then, 
 go to format and choose styles. I had to choose all styles before I could see 
 the different heading levels. I am doing this from memory, so please forgive 
 any errors.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Ok I have installed the preview of office. I have looked a little at word. 
 How do you make a heading on a level e.g. level 2.
 
 I have never liked office on windows, but i like it on the mac.
 
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Re: A question about making headings on different levels with ms word.

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Hi Jamie, 

I was successful in adding a heading 1 level in a doc, but what is missing is 
having VO announce what type of style one has used. This is obtained with JAWS 
on the PC side. The only way I knew it was applied was using the speak 
attribute VO keystroke of VO-T. I know the font size of heading 1 style is 16 
ptc. So, I’m not sure if obtaining more description of attributes in a Word doc 
is a MS or an Apple glitch. Hence, I guess I will place this on my running bug 
list to MS. Hopefully, MS will improve their Mac keystrokes in order for more 
advance users of Word will think about making the switch. so far, even with a 
learning curve, I am not convinced to use Word on the Mac. To me, it’s very 
labor intensive, which would slow down productivity. 

Thanks 

Eileen again.
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 Place your cursor in the paragraph where you want to apply the style. Then, 
 go to format and choose styles. I had to choose all styles before I could see 
 the different heading levels. I am doing this from memory, so please forgive 
 any errors.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Ok I have installed the preview of office. I have looked a little at word. 
 How do you make a heading on a level e.g. level 2.
 
 I have never liked office on windows, but i like it on the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: A question about making headings on different levels with ms word.

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Jamie, 

I was successful in adding a heading 1 level in a doc, but what is missing is 
having VO announce what type of style one has used. This is obtained with JAWS 
on the PC side. The only way I knew it was applied was using the speak 
attribute VO keystroke of VO-T. I know the font size of heading 1 style is 16 
ptc. So, I’m not sure if obtaining more description of attributes in a Word doc 
is a MS or Apple glitch. Hence, I guess I will place this on my running bug 
list to MS. Hopefully, MS will improve their Mac keystrokes inorder for more 
advance users of Word will think about making the switch. so far, even with a 
learning curve, I am not convinced to use Word on the Mac. To me, it’s very 
labor intensive, which would slow down productivity. 

Thanks 

Eileenagain.
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 Place your cursor in the paragraph where you want to apply the style. Then, 
 go to format and choose styles. I had to choose all styles before I could see 
 the different heading levels. I am doing this from memory, so please forgive 
 any errors.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Ok I have installed the preview of office. I have looked a little at word. 
 How do you make a heading on a level e.g. level 2.
 
 I have never liked office on windows, but i like it on the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: learning to use numbers

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All, 

I'm in the same boat as Laura, but have applied some of the same principles 
that I've used in Excel. What surprised me was that VO announced the header for 
each column when in a particular cell. I was wondering how specify the defined 
ranges when creating a simple formula. It was difficult to ascertain the 
coordinates of the column and row like in Excel. I just opened the formula 
dialog  list and chose sum to get it inserted to tabulate the column. Any 
suggestions regarding the above would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:18 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Laura
 If you know how to use Excel, you should know that numbers will except Excel 
 files. One of the things you should know right away so that you don't take 
 forever to figure it out, is that when you press the = to start your formula, 
 the first thing to do is to press the right arrow key. That get you in the 
 correct cursor position to start the rest to your formula. 
 
 Gigi 
 
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 Hi All,
 Can anyone recommend a good resource for learning how to use numbers?
 Thank you,
 Laura 
 
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Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All,

I finally opened this thread only to discover the initial post so inflammatory. 
However, I am not personalizing the fowl language at all. Yesterday, when out 
and about I was having problems with my Voyager Plus BT headset. it frequently  
bots its connection. and I needed to pair it back to my iFhone 6. The funny 
thing is that I didn't realize that it could be a conflict between iOS 8.2 and 
VO. I did stop in at the Apple store and the rep that helped me gave solutions, 
but didn't have a clue that it might be a bug that hasn't been fixed yet. I 
haven't tried any other BT devices to see if there is an issue with them. I did 
turn off/on my phone, and a hard reset, but I haven't tested the earpiece again 
with the phone. Just thought I would chime in with my most recent experience. 
Thanks for listening.

Cheers,
Eileene. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 My only problem with Apple at this point is that they're just a little too 
 excited. They rush on and trip over their own releases. They just gotta slow 
 down a little and put in a good automated quality control.
 
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 Totally agree.  Actually, it works quite well.
 
 Chris.
 
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  It ain't broke now. iOS 8.2 is on both my iPhone and iPad.
 
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 On 3/27/2015 7:48 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
 I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer
 in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it.
 On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I
 found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I
 update, or can I expect slower operation?
 
 On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to
 say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than
 on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang 
 like
 slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started
 looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things 
 too
 much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and
 do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some
 mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2
 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band
 pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars
 for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way 
 around.
 Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans
 aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an
 apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
 
 Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you
 who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic
 things:
 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple
 makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production 
 or
 app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way
 around.
 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively
 create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction
 of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving
 us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy
 with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software
 division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one
 or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger 
 engineers
 presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet,
 so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style
 crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I
 wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of
 creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most
 companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to 
 be
 broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s
 broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 
 dollar
 piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and 

Re: How to capitalize acronyms

[Eileen Misrahi]

I'm confused. Is this on the native keyboard on the phone? If so, single finger 
triple tap will turn on caps lock. Then you are able to type all the letters in 
capitals. HTH.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 26, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Kevin Gibbs kevj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here is my try. MIDI.  Well, it appears to have worked the first time. Let me 
 try saying, MIDI again.  It worked perfectly twice. Thank you, Chris.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kevin.
 Try saying the following:
 upper case m upper case i upper case d upper case i
 
 
 
 At 03:20 PM 3/26/2015, you wrote:
 Part of the problem is that the acronym I wish to use, MIDI, is 
 translated as, MEDIA, when I use Siri.  So, what I want to do is speak 
 the capital letters in sequence, M I D I, without spaces.  How does one do 
 that?  Is there a user editable pronunciation dictionary that can be used 
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Re: A Newbie with Numbers

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello,

Thanks for your instructions. They worked well. Just to point out, I needed to 
access the insert menu and press the letter F to highlight the formula option. 
The dropdown list had the sum option and vo-space on it. The formula was 
added, but needed to vo-space once again to perform the action. Worked like a 
charm. Thanks again. 

Cheers,
Eileen

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 On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:08 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Eileen,
 
 to sort the table from oldest to newest do the following
 on english keyboards press VO + | to jump to the table headders 
 choose column
 choose the column you want to use for sorting
 open the context menue and choose ascending or descending
 
 I don't know of tables with unlabled cells but you can place a formular just 
 by writing an equal sign. What happens then is that the formular editor opens 
 and starts a formular line. Note! The cursor sometimes seems to be placed 
 before the equal sign but it must sit behind it if you want to create a 
 functioning formular.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
 Am 24.03.2015 um 02:29 schrieb Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello All,
 
 I decided to bite the bullet and open Numbers on my Mac. I have some 
 experience with Excel, but I know things must be done differently in 
 Numbers. Here are my questions:
 
 1. I want to sort the date column from oldest to newest. Can this be done in 
 Numbers and what are the steps to do it? 
 2. I want to place a formula at the bottom of one of my columns. The columns 
 just use numbers and the rows are not labeled with the coordinates. So, how 
 is this accomplished? 
 This is all new to me, as this is the first time I am using the program. Any 
 tips and tricks to get these 2 items completed. 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen 
 
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A Newbie with Numbers

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello All,

I decided to bite the bullet and open Numbers on my Mac. I have some experience 
with Excel, but I know things must be done differently in Numbers. Here are my 
questions:

1. I want to sort the date column from oldest to newest. Can this be done in 
Numbers and what are the steps to do it? 
2. I want to place a formula at the bottom of one of my columns. The columns 
just use numbers and the rows are not labeled with the coordinates. So, how is 
this accomplished? 
This is all new to me, as this is the first time I am using the program. Any 
tips and tricks to get these 2 items completed. 

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Eileen 

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Re: Online Colegge degrees

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I went through an entire distant learning Master’s program from 2005-2008, when 
I received my degree. Blackboard was the method of accessing all of the 
required assignments and test uploads. The accessibility all depended on how 
the professor uploaded the materials. The “Office Chat” in real time was not 
accessible and needed to have a fellow classmate be my reader in order to 
participate in this media. At times, PDF files were scanned in and not 
accessible to any of my screen readers. At the time I was using JAWS, 
Window-Eyes, and NVDA as my screen readers of choice. The APA Manuscript Manual 
(electronic version) was semi-accessible, but I finally ended up scanning the 
entire 400 plus pages with Kurzweil 1000. I had one class where I couldn’t 
access any of the videos required to view. I spent many hours with the Web 
department and finally they sent me DVD disks of the materials to view them. I 
believe in an earlier post that someone stated that you need to make sure that 
you have a good disable student services department. This is essential in order 
in getting your course materials into a media that will work for you. I spent 
more time with DSS in getting my textbooks and other required readings. HTH. 

Best, 
Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Even better, he also misspelled Sarai. 
 
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 On Mar 16, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 George,
 
 A little more fun here, this time at your expense.  “Incorrectally is 
 spelled “incorrectly” in the body of your message.
 
 Have a good day :).
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 09:10, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sara you better take one look at the subject line I think college is spelt 
 incorrectally.  Just having fun with you and yes there those who are 
 successful with online college access.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
 Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 19:46
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Online Colegge degrees
 
 Hi all:
 Has anyone ever taken online college classes, or received an online college 
 degree? If so, what software is sued? Is the software accessible with iOS, 
 Jaws, and Voiceover? Is it expensive?
 If this needs to be taken off list, my email address is 
 sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
 Thanks!
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Re: Office for Mac 2016 Preview

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi John,

I have thought about that logic too because of the ability to obtain 
Window-Eyes for free if one has a copy of either Office 2010 or 2013. Let's see 
how this will pan out when the full version is release. However, I'm not 
holding out that this minor inconvenience of not accessing the edit field in 
word will be fix. :) It would be nice not to have to put Windows on my Air in 
either BootCamp or in VM Ware. Take Care.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:03 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Nope. Microsoft did it again. They deliberately made all of the content 
 areas inaccessible. It can only be deliberate because this is how it was in 
 the last version and they got plenty of feedback from users. So, you have to 
 wonder if their is an altereor motive here at work, especially as the iOS 
 version is accessible.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:38 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello to the list.
 
 I have just now downloaded and installed this Microsoft office for mac 2016  
 preview,  and what a bitter disappointment this is so far.
 
 Voiceover does not seem to read any of the text in my preliminary try out of 
 the Microsoft Word application, everything else seems to read just fine.
 
 I know it’s an early preview, but it’s still shocking and truly hideous if 
 Voiceover will not work with 2016 Office for mac.
 
 
 
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Re: Office for Mac 2016 Preview

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi All,

If I could just figure out what's bugging the Win 8.0 installer through 
BootCamp, I would be a happy camper. I agree with Tim and George that Windows 
runs quicker and more efficient on my MacBook Air. Just a little hip cup that 
I'm running into now. Hopefully, I'll find the answer soon. 

Best,
Eileen  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:36 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tim I agree
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
 Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 08:11
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Office for Mac 2016 Preview
 
 Hi,
 
 Not that I have a lot of personal experience with running Windows on the Mac, 
 but, from most things I’ve heard, Windows actually runs better, faster and 
 remains cleaner on a Mac than it does on a little cheap laptop that you might 
 get.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 08:53, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys. 
 I realize this is some extra money, but if I ever have to run Windows because 
 I really need a program I can’t get on the Mac, I have thought that I would 
 just spring for a little Windows laptop. I know you can put windows on the 
 Mac, but I have read a little about what some of you have done, and I think 
 that if ever have to do it, I would rather have a separate system running the 
 Windows program. I still have JAWS, and I could just update it. The Mac and 
 Windows computers can read files produced on the other one, so I see no real 
 advantage to mixing the systems. Maybe I am wrong about that, but at this 
 point, I’m going to stick with iWorks. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I have thought about that logic too because of the ability to obtain 
 Window-Eyes for free if one has a copy of either Office 2010 or 2013. Let's 
 see how this will pan out when the full version is release. However, I'm not 
 holding out that this minor inconvenience of not accessing the edit field in 
 word will be fix. :) It would be nice not to have to put Windows on my Air 
 in either BootCamp or in VM Ware. Take Care.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:03 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope. Microsoft did it again. They deliberately made all of the content 
 areas inaccessible. It can only be deliberate because this is how it was in 
 the last version and they got plenty of feedback from users. So, you have 
 to wonder if their is an altereor motive here at work, especially as the 
 iOS version is accessible.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
 Mountain Lion
 
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 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:38 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello to the list.
 
 I have just now downloaded and installed this Microsoft office for mac 
 2016  preview,  and what a bitter disappointment this is so far.
 
 Voiceover does not seem to read any of the text in my preliminary try out 
 of the Microsoft Word application, everything else seems to read just fine.
 
 I know it’s an early preview, but it’s still shocking and truly hideous if 
 Voiceover will not work with 2016 Office for mac.
 
 
 
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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi,

The way I see it from trying to get Office 2016 to work is the integration of 
the voiceover screen reader into the software so there's full speech feedback 
and navigation within the software. When I used it yesterday, I did get a word 
count indicating that my word processing was there, but the accessibility 
wasn't. So, if this is the case, to me Dream Writer wouldn't fix the problem. 
JMO.

Eileen  y 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:05 AM, William Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Would not Dream Writer resolve the problem of needing to access Word 
 documents?
 
 - Bill  Leader Dog Holland
 - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.
 - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
 - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:27 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I 
 need Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word 
 processor, but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am 
 more productive and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some 
 formatting or use of styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was trying 
 not to have to install Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have to bite 
 the bullet. I still wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe they will 
 get it right this time.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
 Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?
 
 Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi 
 eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there 
 is no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo 
 character, word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to 
 work. I knew that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the 
 word count it stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that 
 activates the spell checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues 
 regarding VO accessing the document pane edit field. If others are finding 
 the same, it takes a village to get someone to look at the problem and maybe 
 have a chance that it will be fixed. JMO.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said. Smile. I 
 kind a wondered that same thing.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
 pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. 
 Would that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, 
 inaccessible?  If one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you 
 know is in the body of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, 
 we’re getting somewhere, if not, then the accessibility of the editable 
 area is non-existent.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you 
 could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my 
 first message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd 
 think that would make it even worse.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
 document area at all.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
 Mountain Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson m...@mjw.se wrote:
 
 word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
 10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com:
 
 Outlook is included within that PKG

Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello List, 

I have installed the beta Microsoft Office 2016 on my MacBook Air 2013. It 
would be nice to be able to disable the “Document” Pane. I believe that the 
edit field is under it and the pane is blocking it from voiceover. Hence, this 
makes Word not accessible to us. I was attempting to send Microsoft some 
feedback, but when I clicked on the feedback tab in Word preferences, there was 
no method to do this. Has anyone figured out the magic steps to get rid of the 
“Document” pane yet? And, does anyone have the contact to send constructive 
criticism to Microsoft?

thanks in advance. 

Warmest regards, 
Eileen 

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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there is 
no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo character, 
word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to work. I knew 
that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the word count it 
stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that activates the spell 
checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues regarding VO accessing the 
document pane edit field. If others are finding the same, it takes a village to 
get someone to look at the problem and maybe have a chance that it will be 
fixed. JMO. 

Best, 
Eileen  
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said.  Smile. I 
 kind a wondered that same thing.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
 pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. Would 
 that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, inaccessible?  If 
 one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you know is in the body 
 of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, we’re getting somewhere, 
 if not, then the accessibility of the editable area is non-existent.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you could 
 disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my first 
 message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd think that 
 would make it even worse.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
 document area at all.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
 Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson m...@mjw.se wrote:
 
 word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
 10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com:
 
 Outlook is included within that PKG, yes.  Beware though, I haven't 
 actually tested it for accessibility, so I'm sorry to say I cannot be of 
 much help there at this given time.  I hear, however, that it's supposed to 
 supposedly be fairly doable.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: mattias m...@mjw.se
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 any outlook app too?
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland skrev den 3/10/2015 8:31 PM:
 Here you go, my friend.  I hope that this helps.  This link should be the 
 direct download to the .PKG file.
 
 http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849
 
 Best of luck with it!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: mattias m...@mjw.se
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 where do you find the preview?
 
 Eileen Misrahi skrev den 3/10/2015 7:29 PM:
 Hello List,
 
 I have installed the beta Microsoft Office 2016 on my MacBook Air 2013. 
 It would be nice to be able to disable the “Document” Pane. I believe 
 that the edit field is under it and the pane is blocking it from 
 voiceover. Hence, this makes Word not accessible to us. I was attempting 
 to send Microsoft some feedback, but when I clicked on the feedback tab 
 in Word preferences, there was no method to do this. Has anyone figured 
 out the magic steps to get rid of the “Document” pane yet? And, does 
 anyone have the contact to send constructive criticism to Microsoft?
 
 thanks in advance.
 
 Warmest regards,
 Eileen
 
 
 
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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Chris, 

I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I need 
Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word processor, 
but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am more productive 
and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some formatting or use of 
styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was trying not to have to install 
Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have to bite the bullet. I still 
wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe they will get it right this time. 

Best, 
Eileen 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
 Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?
 
 Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there 
 is no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo 
 character, word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to 
 work. I knew that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the word 
 count it stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that activates 
 the spell checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues regarding VO 
 accessing the document pane edit field. If others are finding the same, it 
 takes a village to get someone to look at the problem and maybe have a chance 
 that it will be fixed. JMO.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said.  Smile. I 
 kind a wondered that same thing.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
 pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. 
 Would that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, 
 inaccessible?  If one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you 
 know is in the body of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, 
 we’re getting somewhere, if not, then the accessibility of the editable area 
 is non-existent.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you 
 could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my first 
 message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd think 
 that would make it even worse.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
 document area at all.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
 APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
 Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson m...@mjw.se wrote:
 
 word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
 10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com:
 
 Outlook is included within that PKG, yes.  Beware though, I haven't 
 actually tested it for accessibility, so I'm sorry to say I cannot be of 
 much help there at this given time.  I hear, however, that it's supposed 
 to supposedly be fairly doable.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: mattias m...@mjw.se
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 any outlook app too?
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland skrev den 3/10/2015 8:31 PM:
 Here you go, my friend.  I hope that this helps.  This link should be the 
 direct download to the .PKG file.
 
 http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849
 
 Best of luck with it!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: mattias m...@mjw.se
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
 
 
 where do you find the preview?
 
 Eileen Misrahi skrev den 3/10

Re: Did something really stupid: spilled lemonade on my MBA

[Eileen Misrahi]

As someone has suggested, place the unit into rice. I needed to do this a while 
back with my iPhone4. I got lucky and didn't have any damage. One website 
mentioned to leave the device in rice covered for 2-3 days and not to turn it 
on. This can short out other components on the mother board.I know this will be 
hard not to touch the MBA, but you want to have the best shot in having minimum 
damage as possible. After that disaster, my golden rule with any of my Apple 
devices are not to drink, eat, or listen to anything while taking a shower 
where there is a lot of moisture. HTH and good luck. 

Best, 
Eileen 
On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all, 
 I spued a good bit of lemonade today, and some ended up on my almost brand 
 new Mac. I shut the machine down, dried it with paper towels, and let it sit. 
 However, all that will happen when I try to turn the machine on is a lot of 
 noise from the fan. Any suggestions? Already really beating myself up over 
 this. This machine is my baby. 
 
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Re: Need Help with macbook air

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Hi,

The other solution is to make a genius appointment at your local Apple store 
and let them do it if you are hesitant in taking the plunge.

Eileen

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 On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:51 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Since you just got it new.
 
 Call 1 877 204 3930  apple's disability line and tell them it is new and you 
 get 90 days free telephone support.
 
 Tell them your blind and use voice over, and one of those awesome people will 
 walk you through it.
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacey Robinson
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 14:33
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Need Help with macbook air
 
 Hi all,
 I just got an 11 inch macbook air as an early birthday gift.
 My old white macbook running lion just died.
 I have things backed up in time machine, but don’t know how to retrieve them.
 How do I go into time machine and get things like contacts and saved mail 
 messages?
 I also had website shortcuts that I would like to have back.
 Also how do I retrieve my iTunes library folders?
 Step by step directions are appreciated.
 Thanks,
 Stacey Robinson
 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Since the latest update to Yosemite, my Braillino is no longer recognised by 
 my Mac. I’ve tried removing it and pairing it again, but the pairing fails, 
 both in VO Utility and System Preferences. Are there any other Braillino 
 users on this list and are you having the same trouble?
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: where to download google chrome on mac?

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Hi,

I just Google chrome for mac and the first link under search results gets you 
where you want to be. The link is google.com/chrome. Once there, there's a link 
for personal use. The first time opening this search link, I didn't need to 
click on downloads. If you don't see the personal use link, then click on 
the download link: HTH.

Eileen

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 On Feb 15, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 nope, i can’t find it anywhere on the web
 On 14 Feb 2015, at 19:59, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I use the Chrome browser on my Mac I assume that's what you're talking 
 about. Have had it loaded on my Mac since I've had it couple of years ago. 
 Is it no longer works, that's news to me.
 
 On Feb 13, 2015 2:18 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 tried searching the google chrome on google search but it seems that theres 
 was no chrome for mac now? isn't it?
 can you please the link to install the chrome for mac.
 dionipher
 
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Downloading Adobe Flash

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Hello All,

This is a related question to Adobe flash player. And the automatic update. I 
have an education that requires Adobe Flash. Is this obtained from the app 
store or do you go to the web page for Adobe to download it? Thanks for your 
advise in advance.

Best,
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Re: Downloading Adobe Flash

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Hi tim,

That's what I thought. When on my PC, I quickly did a search, but realized I 
would need to complete this task when I logged onto my Mac. 

Eileen 
On Feb 7, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Adobe Flash needs to be obtained from the Adobe web-site.
 
 Later..
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:37, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 This is a related question to Adobe flash player. And the automatic update. I 
 have an education that requires Adobe Flash. Is this obtained from the app 
 store or do you go to the web page for Adobe to download it? Thanks for your 
 advise in advance.
 
 Best,
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Re: super or carbon

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Hi Mike, 

I was just about to purchase Carbon Copy Cloner before upgrading to Yosemite. 
So, if you need to use a mouse to click on the drive, is not not accessible and 
od you need sighted assistance? thanks for your advise in advance.

Best, 
Eileen  
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 I use carbon copy cloner, with the newest version, you have to actually click 
 the mouse on items to select your drives, but it works great. Last I checked, 
 super duper was not being updated hardly at all.
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Re: super or carbon

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Hi Ray, 

Thaks. I knew I was missing something. That should od it. I'll take care of the 
purchase later. I want to clone Mountain Lion just in case I need to restore 
back to it. 

Eileen 
On Jan 28, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 YOu are overlooking routing the mouse pointer using VO+shift+5 and then using 
 the normal mouse click commands to click it.
 
 Shift+VO+space.
 
 
 Sincerely,
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 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
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 Hi Mike, 
 
 I was just about to purchase Carbon Copy Cloner before upgrading to 
 Yosemite. So, if you need to use a mouse to click on the drive, is not not 
 accessible and od you need sighted assistance? thanks for your advise in 
 advance.
 
 Best, 
 Eileen  
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 I use carbon copy cloner, with the newest version, you have to actually 
 click the mouse on items to select your drives, but it works great. Last I 
 checked, super duper was not being updated hardly at all.
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Re: super or carbon

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Hi, 

I uderstand that, but I wanted to make sure that I can use it without sighted 
assistance with VO-Shift-Space to initiate a single mouse click. 

Eileen 
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 I'd still get it.  You can't expect everybody and their brother to know about 
 VO.
 
 
 Sincerely,
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 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Jan 28, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 A few weeks ago, I emailed the folks at CCC and they told me that CCC isn’t 
 VO compatible. 
 I was going to purchase it, but not now.
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi Mike, 
 
 I was just about to purchase Carbon Copy Cloner before upgrading to 
 Yosemite. So, if you need to use a mouse to click on the drive, is not not 
 accessible and od you need sighted assistance? thanks for your advise in 
 advance.
 
 Best, 
 Eileen  
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 I use carbon copy cloner, with the newest version, you have to actually 
 click the mouse on items to select your drives, but it works great. Last I 
 checked, super duper was not being updated hardly at all.
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Re: Using a BrailleNote Apex with an iPhone 4S

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Mike,

I'll try this again because I checked what you meant by my message being cut 
off. 

1. The iPhone needs to be off totally: The sequence is to turn on the Apex 
first, set it in terminal mode and make sure that bluetooth is turned on by 
pressing the letter B. 
2. Now, open the iPbone: Go to settings blucsooth and make sure it is also 
turned on. 
3. Swipe down (one finger swipe to the right) until you hear Apex. 
4. Do a single double tap on the pair button. 
Note: I change the typing mode to standard, so I can use a split double tapp to 
quickly input the code and catch the pair button. The pair button is in the 
right hand corner just under the battery percentage. 
5. The code that Sarah gave you is correct of 4 zeros. 

In using the above method, I usually can pair my Apex in 1-2 tries. Once the 
Apex is paired, you will need to turn on the apex first, with the iPhone turned 
off. Then turn on the phone. It may take a few seconds for the Apex braille 
display to respond, but it will. HTH.

Bast,
Eileen

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 On Jan 21, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sarai,
 
 Your suggestion did not work for me.  When I typed , I was unable to pair 
 the devices.  Then, for some reason, I tried entering  and actually got 
 further.  After a pause of about ten seconds or so, the iPhone said: 
 “Connection unsuccessful. Could not load driver for APEX001890”
 
 Any other thoughts?  I guess that I can always power down my iPhone and do a 
 hardware reset on my BrailleNote.  However, I’m really not sure what is going 
 on.  Why did I get further when I typed  as the pairing code instead of 
 ?
 
 Kindest regards,
 
 Mike
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi Mike:
 You need to go to Bluetooth, not hotspot to use Apex as display. Turn on 
 Bluetooth on both devices. On Apex, go to terminal, press b for Bluetooth, 
 then enter. on phone, go to VO then Braille. When you see the apex under 
 devices, double tap it. Type in on the phone .
 On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Unfortunately, your message got chopped off at its beginning.  However, to 
 answer the one question which arrived, I am using Keysoft version 9 4 1, 
 build 1252.
 
 Thanks and best regards,
 
 Mike
 
 On 20,Jan,2015, at 20:56, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 
 First of all, Are you running the most recent version of KeySoft? The 
 order that you need to take is to turn 
 On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I recently had my BrailleNote Apex repaired and I have been unsuccessful 
 at getting it to communicate with my iPhone 4S.  A Humanware distributor 
 said that in order for pairing to work, I’d have to turn on the Hot Spot 
 function in my iPhone 4S.  I have gone into Settings, but I have thus far 
 been unable to locate the Hot Spot function.  
 
 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Mike
 
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 1. In the main menu, press T to jump tot he terminal mode and press enter 
 on it. 
 2. Make sure that the terminal mode is in bluetooth. If not, press the 
 letter B. 
 
 Mow, that you have done that, return to the iphone. Before upgrading, I 
 was using my apex with an iPhone4. 
 
 ipHone:
 1. Make sure that the phone is turned off. 
 2. Turn the phone on with the power button. 
 3. 
 Go to settings-bluetooth and flick to the right to find the Apex listed. 
 4. tap of it. When this screen opens, there should be a apr button. The 
 pair code for the Apex is .
 4. The pairing button is just below the battery percentage. I prefer to 
 have the typing mode in standard to perform a split double tap. I juse 
 both hands with the right in the right upper corner and using the left to 
 double tap in the 4 zeros. I'm  usually successful on the first or second 
 attempt. 
 
 You may need to go to the accessibility menu in general through settings 
 to amke all necessary setting changes for braille input and output. Once 
 the Apex is pair, the order of having the apex paired with phone is turn 
 on the Apex first to turn on the Apex and place it in terminal mode and 
 then the phone. HTH. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 
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Re: Using a BrailleNote Apex with an iPhone 4S

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Hello, 

First of all, Are you running the most recent version of KeySoft? The order 
that you need to take is to turn 
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 Hi.
 
 I recently had my BrailleNote Apex repaired and I have been unsuccessful at 
 getting it to communicate with my iPhone 4S.  A Humanware distributor said 
 that in order for pairing to work, I’d have to turn on the Hot Spot function 
 in my iPhone 4S.  I have gone into Settings, but I have thus far been unable 
 to locate the Hot Spot function.  
 
 Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Mike
 
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1. In the main menu, press T to jump tot he terminal mode and press enter on 
it. 
2. Make sure that the terminal mode is in bluetooth. If not, press the letter 
B. 

Mow, that you have done that, return to the iphone. Before upgrading, I was 
using my apex with an iPhone4. 

ipHone:
1. Make sure that the phone is turned off. 
2. Turn the phone on with the power button. 
3. 
Go to settings-bluetooth and flick to the right to find the Apex listed. 
4. tap of it. When this screen opens, there should be a apr button. The pair 
code for the Apex is .
4. The pairing button is just below the battery percentage. I prefer to have 
the typing mode in standard to perform a split double tap. I juse both hands 
with the right in the right upper corner and using the left to double tap in 
the 4 zeros. I'm  usually successful on the first or second attempt. 

You may need to go to the accessibility menu in general through settings to 
amke all necessary setting changes for braille input and output. Once the Apex 
is pair, the order of having the apex paired with phone is turn on the Apex 
first to turn on the Apex and place it in terminal mode and then the phone. 
HTH. 

Best, 
Eileen 

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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Ann,

I did forget to include creating labels with Pages If there are temtplates for 
envelopes, I assume there are templates for creating labels. Is that correct? 
Maybe I need to look at Pages more carefully and see if I can work with it in 
creating documents similar in Word. Thanks for setting me straight. 

Best,
Eileen 

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 On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 OK you can solve that one by selecting all those tracks of that album and 
 choosing get info and under details put the main artist name in the album 
 artist field!
 Then all tracks will be put into the same album!
 And you can leave all the track artists as multi name people!
 Like Barbra Streisand, Duets, I’ve got all the guest artists listed with her 
 on each track and her name as album artist!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 08:52, kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The only thing I miss about windows, is the way windows media player 
 organized my music.  If there was an artist, that featured multiple people 
 on it, windows media player kept the album as 1 album, iTunes makes it 
 multiple ones for each artist that is featured.  That really annoys me.  But 
 what can you do?  Other than that, the mac is where home is!
  
 Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
 efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? 
  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
 always patient with you.
 Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/
 Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple
 And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:57 AM
 To: macvisionaries
 Subject: Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple
  
 I workaround the lack of the ability to open folders with a specific app. 
 For sound in this case I use the free VLC Media Player from
 www.videolan.org
 I then press command-o which is a standard Mac OS X shortcut to open a file 
 or folder of files. I select my sound folder, press return, and VLC will 
 make a playlist with those sound files for me. Think of this as the Winamp 
 on steroids for Mac OS X. There is VLC Media Player for Windows, but 
 accessibility leaves a lot to be desired in my personal opinion. So I use 
 Winamp on the Windows side.
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to 
 run windows 7. the only thing aggravating me so far is that I can’t use 
 “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in 
 Firefox too. 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and haven't 
 even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion at all 
 yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the switch.
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello,

Unless I missed something when I downloaded a trial of Pages, I didn't see any 
method on how to print an envelope or labels. I am self employed and need to 
send originals via snail mail. Also, when I prepare training materials, I use 
various level style headers and I don't think I saw that in Pages when I was 
giving it a test drive. If there are solutions to the above tasks mentioned 
above in Pages, I'm game to look at the app again. I'm keeping my fingers 
crossed on MS Office 2015 for the Mac to be accessible to the visually 
impaired. 

Eileen

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 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:41 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 I know this will not help, and it may be too late for some, but I read 
 somewhere, probably on this list, that it is hoped that the 2015 version of 
 Microsoft Office released later on in the year will be accessible on this 
 platform. Outlook already is in its 2011 form so Microsoft must be making a 
 good start.
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 04:46, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is needed is an accessible version for MS Word on the Mac. Many of us 
 must use word for work and school, and need to be able to use it on the MAC.
 I wonder why we can't get Microsoft to commit to giving an accessible 
 version as it has done on the IOs platform?
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
 sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d rather only use the Mac, and not have two computers. I’m trying to 
 learn Pages. It’s slow going. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a bunch 
 of new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. maybe at 
 some point I’ll install the new windows or Vinux on this Mac. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those 
 reasons, web vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
 Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
 processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in 
 pages.there's no shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you 
 can to get what you need done.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc 
 was almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in 
 order to run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I 
 can’t use “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss 
 webvisum in Firefox too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and 
 iOS devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year 
 and haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware 
 Fusion at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have 
 made the switch.
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

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I agree with you. The only reason I open the Windows side is for the Office 
suites. I have tried the iWorks suite for the Mac, but it doesn't offer me the 
vast options in Word to mark up a document. JMO.

Eileen

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 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the 
 windows side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not at 
 the level of office on the PC.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like 
 Ivona and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that 
 they are working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I 
 see it. I think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering 
 them to make their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. 
 Emails, tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:48 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I doubt I'll ever switch completely. I still have ties to alteraeon and the 
 mush-z sound pack. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion 
 at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the 
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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

[Eileen Misrahi]

Recently, there was a thread on hijacking a topic. Now, please tell me which 
topic this is: bootcamp issues or an iOS 6 vs. 6 plus decision? Where are the 
monitors on this? It's very disconcerting to think I'll be reading numerous 
threads on bootcamp and find that there's a totally different topic being 
discussed. 

Eileen 

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 On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Eleanor,
 I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
 need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too 
 big for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 
 plus is significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me 
 to buy it - I just don't want such a monster sized phone. 
 I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
 work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the 
 extra size, better battery life and bigger price tag.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
 have got 2 quick questions for you. 
 
 Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can anyone 
 who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is better from a 
 VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 (apart from the 
 obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any significant problems 
 with either of them? 
 
 Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
 devices?? 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
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Re: need some advice installing windows on mac

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi,

How are you installing Win 8.1! Is it through BootCamp or VM Fusion? When I did 
install Win 8.0 on a Mac with Mountain Lion, I didn't need to uninstall ML 
before installing Win 8.0. I had purchased my copy of Win 8.0 when it was first 
released. So, I had plenty of problems getting it installed on my MacBook Air 
through BootCamp. HTH.

Eileen

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 On Dec 31, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just want to have some advices installing again windows 8.1 on my mac since 
 i am a beta tester for mac. so i do have a os Yosemite on my other partition 
 on my drive. I still do have another 270 GB free space on my mavericks. i 
 want to install windows on a 100 gb for windows. how can i do this, because 
 when i tried i said i can't. but if i install first the windows and install 
 the yosemite it dows install everything how i like. can i install windows 8.1 
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Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Hank,

As the last person posted, It would be great for you to post where one could 
obtain a talking installer that would work on a 64 bit Mac machine. Thanks.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:22 AM, dooie13 dooi...@frontier.com wrote:
 
 Hi Hank,
 I would appreciate a copy of this for future use, if possible.
 Thank you,
 Dooie13
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and
 Seeing-eye dog Iona
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 15:50
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp
 
 I do know of a place to get a 64 bit talking installer it is not the one 
 from bryan smart page got it from some one on blindtech this allowed me 
 to install my 64 bit windows
 basicly you run this talking installer, either from cd or usb then have 
 your windows disk or usb drive in as well,
 then run your windows set up and its pritty straight forward
 if you want the installer I can post it some where
 some one re did the talking installer and made his own version of it.
 its quite good
 only thing I am running in to is the usb audio problem at set up see 
 separate email. hope this helps
 
 
 Hank
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 4:22 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 to answer the question about installing Windows in BootCamp without
 sighted assistance still stands and requires sighted assistance. I know
 there has been some discussion about using a talking installer, but it's
 only for a 32 bit machine. Regarding the JAWS license, if you are out of
 authorization keys, you can contact Freedom Scientific and they will load
 more into your account. I can't speak in regards to VM Fusion because I have
 only BootCamp my machine once and will probably go that route again. HTH.
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Another advantage of VMware is if you have Jaws on your Window machine,
 you will not lose the licence as you can cut and paste your Windows Virtual
 machine anywhere you like.  As long as you tell your VMware that you moved
 the machine and not done anything else with it, you will not lose your life
 when using Jaws.  I hope I have this correct.
 
 If however, you were to put windows on Boot camp, you could lose your
 jaws licence if you were to format your Mac.  I hope I have this right as
 well as I've only used VMware and have no experience of Boot camp.  Can you
 still not install Windows via boot camp without sighted assistance?
 
 Kawal.
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 22:03, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would add a few things to this. If you use Fusion, you can keep a
 backup of your VM, or VMs anywhere you like, so even if you have to
 reinstall OS X from scratch, you don't have to lose your VM, or have it
 backed up by Time Machine. You can share files and folders  between the two,
 and largely protect your Windows from hacks by staying Mac side until you
 actually need Windows. You can also take snapshots of your VM to which you
 can return should anything ever go wrong with it, and these really do fix a
 lot of problems. You can also easily manage your keyboard in Fusion so that
 you have pretty much a native Windows experience while in Windows if you
 wish. The time to think about Bootcamp is if you want to do something you
 know can cause problems in Fusion, or if you don't switch between systems
 much or can't afford Fusion.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 08:13 pm, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:
 
 I asked this question several years ago and decided to put Bootcamp on
 my MacBook Air because of everyone's responses.  Here we are several
 years later and I would like to know if Bootcamp is still the best
 decision if I want to run Windows 7 or 8 and JAWS 15 or 16 on my
 MacBook Air.  I read the Applevis newsletter about VMFusion being the
 Mac app of the year so that is why the question now.
 
 -- 
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 (513) 607-6053
 
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Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Hank, 

Thanks for posting the links so quickly. I will take a look at them when I have 
some quiet time later on today. I'm hoping that this will do the trick. As I 
stated before, I do have a USB sound card. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. 

Best, 
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 30, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 here are the links in the below message:
 [BlindTech] Re: updated win pe talking installer fore 64 bit systems?
 I will paste the download links below, but be aware that after the new year 
 they may suddenly stop working since Wuala (the file host I am using), will
 be retiring their free service.  I have not yet found a suitable replacement. 
  Perhaps I will see if some users are willing to create a Bittorrent Sync
 ring with me using the last accessible version.
 Here are the download links:
 Self extracting ISO image - 32 bit:
 http://tinyurl.com/n8bog8x
 Self extracting USB image - 32 bit:
 http://tinyurl.com/ko4dylp
 Self extracting ISO image - 64 bit:
 http://tinyurl.com/ndddj27
 Self extracting USB image - 64 bit:
 http://tinyurl.com/lhc7pk6
 
 
 On 12/30/2014 8:05 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hi Hank,
 
 As the last person posted, It would be great for you to post where one could 
 obtain a talking installer that would work on a 64 bit Mac machine. Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:22 AM, dooie13 dooi...@frontier.com wrote:
 
 Hi Hank,
 I would appreciate a copy of this for future use, if possible.
 Thank you,
 Dooie13
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and
 Seeing-eye dog Iona
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 15:50
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp
 
 I do know of a place to get a 64 bit talking installer it is not the one
 from bryan smart page got it from some one on blindtech this allowed me
 to install my 64 bit windows
 basicly you run this talking installer, either from cd or usb then have
 your windows disk or usb drive in as well,
 then run your windows set up and its pritty straight forward
 if you want the installer I can post it some where
 some one re did the talking installer and made his own version of it.
 its quite good
 only thing I am running in to is the usb audio problem at set up see
 separate email. hope this helps
 
 
 Hank
 
 
 On 12/29/2014 4:22 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 to answer the question about installing Windows in BootCamp without
 sighted assistance still stands and requires sighted assistance. I know
 there has been some discussion about using a talking installer, but it's
 only for a 32 bit machine. Regarding the JAWS license, if you are out of
 authorization keys, you can contact Freedom Scientific and they will load
 more into your account. I can't speak in regards to VM Fusion because I have
 only BootCamp my machine once and will probably go that route again. HTH.
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Another advantage of VMware is if you have Jaws on your Window machine,
 you will not lose the licence as you can cut and paste your Windows Virtual
 machine anywhere you like.  As long as you tell your VMware that you moved
 the machine and not done anything else with it, you will not lose your life
 when using Jaws.  I hope I have this correct.
 If however, you were to put windows on Boot camp, you could lose your
 jaws licence if you were to format your Mac.  I hope I have this right as
 well as I've only used VMware and have no experience of Boot camp.  Can you
 still not install Windows via boot camp without sighted assistance?
 Kawal.
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 22:03, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would add a few things to this. If you use Fusion, you can keep a
 backup of your VM, or VMs anywhere you like, so even if you have to
 reinstall OS X from scratch, you don't have to lose your VM, or have it
 backed up by Time Machine. You can share files and folders  between the two,
 and largely protect your Windows from hacks by staying Mac side until you
 actually need Windows. You can also take snapshots of your VM to which you
 can return should anything ever go wrong with it, and these really do fix a
 lot of problems. You can also easily manage your keyboard in Fusion so that
 you have pretty much a native Windows experience while in Windows if you
 wish. The time to think about Bootcamp is if you want to do something you
 know can cause problems in Fusion, or if you don't switch between systems
 much or can't afford Fusion.
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 08:13 pm, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:
 I asked this question several years ago and decided to put Bootcamp on
 my MacBook Air because of everyone's responses.  Here we are several
 years later and I would like to know

Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

This is totally personal preference. It alldepends on how much you will use the 
Windows side. For me, I am still out on the fence which way I'll go this time. 
I had BootCamp installed on my MacBook Air 2013, but needed to wipe out the 
entire machine because of a horrific hack Window side. The one advantage with 
VM Fusion is that if the Windows side gets corrupted or a virus and you had 
backed up all the settings in VM Fusion after installing Windows and all the 
software and cloned it, you could access this clone instead of starting all 
over. The positive about installing Windows on to BootCamp is that you are 
using all of the RAM, and power in one operating system and not sharing the 
resources. This is my understanding and if someone with more knowledge is 
welcomed to correct any or all of what I have posted that would be great. HTH.

Eileen

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 On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com 
 wrote:
 
 I asked this question several years ago and decided to put Bootcamp on
 my MacBook Air because of everyone's responses.  Here we are several
 years later and I would like to know if Bootcamp is still the best
 decision if I want to run Windows 7 or 8 and JAWS 15 or 16 on my
 MacBook Air.  I read the Applevis newsletter about VMFusion being the
 Mac app of the year so that is why the question now.
 
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Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi,

to answer the question about installing Windows in BootCamp without sighted 
assistance still stands and requires sighted assistance. I know there has been 
some discussion about using a talking installer, but it's only for a 32 bit 
machine. Regarding the JAWS license, if you are out of authorization keys, you 
can contact Freedom Scientific and they will load more into your account. I 
can't speak in regards to VM Fusion because I have only BootCamp my machine 
once and will probably go that route again. HTH.

Eileen

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 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Another advantage of VMware is if you have Jaws on your Window machine, you 
 will not lose the licence as you can cut and paste your Windows Virtual 
 machine anywhere you like.  As long as you tell your VMware that you moved 
 the machine and not done anything else with it, you will not lose your life 
 when using Jaws.  I hope I have this correct.
 
 If however, you were to put windows on Boot camp, you could lose your jaws 
 licence if you were to format your Mac.  I hope I have this right as well as 
 I’ve only used VMware and have no experience of Boot camp.  Can you still not 
 install Windows via boot camp without sighted assistance?
 
 Kawal.
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 22:03, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would add a few things to this. If you use Fusion, you can keep a backup 
 of your VM, or VMs anywhere you like, so even if you have to reinstall OS X 
 from scratch, you don’t have to lose your VM, or have it backed up by Time 
 Machine. You can share files and folders  between the two, and largely 
 protect your Windows from hacks by staying Mac side until you actually need 
 Windows. You can also take snapshots of your VM to which you can return 
 should anything ever go wrong with it, and these really do fix a lot of 
 problems. You can also easily manage your keyboard in Fusion so that you 
 have pretty much a native Windows experience while in Windows if you wish. 
 The time to think about Bootcamp is if you want to do something you know can 
 cause problems in Fusion, or if you don’t switch between systems much or 
 can’t afford Fusion.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 08:13 pm, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com 
 wrote:
 
 I asked this question several years ago and decided to put Bootcamp on
 my MacBook Air because of everyone's responses.  Here we are several
 years later and I would like to know if Bootcamp is still the best
 decision if I want to run Windows 7 or 8 and JAWS 15 or 16 on my
 MacBook Air.  I read the Applevis newsletter about VMFusion being the
 Mac app of the year so that is why the question now.
 
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Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Grant and Scott,

I did purchase an USB sound card about 1-1/2 months ago. So, I would think I'm 
good to go in using the talking installer. What confused me at Bryan Smart's 
site is which software to download. I'm assuming that's the reference you made 
Grant. If not, can you direct me to the website to download the correct file? 

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen

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 On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Scott Erichsen serich...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes. You can install windows without sited help no problem.
 I've successfully installed windows 7 64bit and windows 8.1.
 Obviously the stuff that comes up in windows itself won't work with voiceover 
 as you need a windows screen reader, but installing windows with VMWare 
 fusion works fine.
 Hope this helps.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
 Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2014 1:30 PM
 To: MacVisionaries List
 Subject: Re: VM Fusion vs Bootcamp
 
 Hello Kawal Kawal,
 
 You’re definitely correct about JAWS authorization being erased when a drive 
 is reformatted. In fact in my experience, JAWS even deactivates when the Boot 
 Camp support software is repaired or uninstalled. Not needing to worry about 
 this would be a definite advantage. For those who use VM Fusion, are you able 
 to install Windows without sighted help?
 
 Grant
 
 Sent from mobile
 
 On Dec 29, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Another advantage of VMware is if you have Jaws on your Window machine, you 
 will not lose the licence as you can cut and paste your Windows Virtual 
 machine anywhere you like.  As long as you tell your VMware that you moved 
 the machine and not done anything else with it, you will not lose your life 
 when using Jaws.  I hope I have this correct.
 
 If however, you were to put windows on Boot camp, you could lose your jaws 
 licence if you were to format your Mac.  I hope I have this right as well as 
 I’ve only used VMware and have no experience of Boot camp.  Can you still not 
 install Windows via boot camp without sighted assistance?
 
 Kawal.
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 22:03, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would add a few things to this. If you use Fusion, you can keep a backup 
 of your VM, or VMs anywhere you like, so even if you have to reinstall OS X 
 from scratch, you don’t have to lose your VM, or have it backed up by Time 
 Machine. You can share files and folders  between the two, and largely 
 protect your Windows from hacks by staying Mac side until you actually need 
 Windows. You can also take snapshots of your VM to which you can return 
 should anything ever go wrong with it, and these really do fix a lot of 
 problems. You can also easily manage your keyboard in Fusion so that you 
 have pretty much a native Windows experience while in Windows if you wish. 
 The time to think about Bootcamp is if you want to do something you know can 
 cause problems in Fusion, or if you don’t switch between systems much or 
 can’t afford Fusion.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 29 Dec 2014, at 08:13 pm, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com 
 wrote:
 
 I asked this question several years ago and decided to put Bootcamp on
 my MacBook Air because of everyone's responses.  Here we are several
 years later and I would like to know if Bootcamp is still the best
 decision if I want to run Windows 7 or 8 and JAWS 15 or 16 on my
 MacBook Air.  I read the Applevis newsletter about VMFusion being the
 Mac app of the year so that is why the question now.
 
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Re: Moving files from one folder to another

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi,

What I do is to make sure that I'm in, colun view by pressing CMD and 3 
command. Then go and select the file in the current folder and copy it with CMD 
and c. Go to the folder name, but don't expand it just highlight the folder you 
want to move the file into. Press CMD, Option, and V altogether. And it should 
move the file and not just paste it. The file should not be still in the 
previous folder where it came from. Just a quick note: I'm using Mountain Lion 
10.8.5, but I don't see why this method would not work in Mavericks. HTH. 

Eileen

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 On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:03 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I am using Mac OS 10.9.5. Does anyone know of a way to move files from one 
 directory to another?  At present, I copy the files nto the new directory, 
 but then I have to go back into the original folder and delete them.  Is 
 there a shortcut that lets you copy the files to the intended folder while 
 simultaneously removing them from the original folder?
 
 Thanks a million,
 
 Mike
 
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Installing Win 8.1 Through BootCamp Assisted with the KNFB Reader?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello List, 

I'm always trying to think how I can accomplish this task of installing Win 8.1 
through BootCamp without sighted assistance. I do have KNFB Reader installed on 
my iPhone6, running 8.1. I know that you can get KNFB Reader to read a monitor 
screen fairly successfully. So, my question is: Has anyone been successful in 
getting Win 8.1 on their MacBook Air or Pro using this method? I reviewed the 
Talking Installer to accomplish this, but the utility is only for 32 bit 
machines, which makes me OOL. Also, I would like to know if there are any 
keyboard shortcuts that would activate a command for lets say the option button 
to reformat the bootcamp drive on the Windows side?  I am well-verse in the 
process of performing the set up on my MacBook Air, so I don't need 
instructions on this. I do apologize if this is slightly off topic, but it does 
use the Mac, with another iDevice. 

Thanks in advance. 

Kind regards, 
Eileen 

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Re: Installing Win 8.1 Through BootCamp Assisted with the KNFB Reader?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Grant,

Thanks for your post. I was expecting the response you just posted. It's not 
that I don't have sighted assistance, but I'm hoping this time the installation 
will go more smoothly. This time I do have an image disk of Win 8, and the 
lucky combination was to keep the DVD original in the external DVD player. This 
allowed me to get around the installation bug on the Win 8 disk of not being 
supported (cannot remember the error message). Hopefully, over the weekend I'll 
be able to get Win 8 up and running and update it back to 8.1. I purchased my 
copy of Win 8 when it was first released and on sale. Thanks again for your 
suggestions. 
Best,
Eileen 

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 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eileen,
 
 I suspect you would find it very difficult to install Windows 8.1 by 
 reviewing each screen with the KNFB Reader, though I’ll be the first to 
 admit, I haven’t tried to do so myself.
 
 However, when I initially installed Windows 8.1 on my Macbook Pro with 
 sighted help, I was told that the text was printed in extremely small font 
 and only occupied a small portion of the display. I assume this is because of 
 a lack of drivers that are present during installation. The result was that 
 even my sighted help found it difficult to review the screen. So, I would bet 
 you that an OCR package would have trouble, too. Then there is the fact that 
 you would have to press a considerable amount of keystrokes without error and 
 without any audio feedback, which would be very disconcerting and could lead 
 to problems if something didn’t go as expected.
 
 Which talking installer are you referring to? Is it from the Win8PE project? 
 If so, you should easily be able to build an installer for 64-BIT machines. 
 The only trouble is that getting audio to work on a Mac would be tricky as 
 the drivers are not present. I’ve heard that others have had success with 
 connecting USB sound devices, so if you have a USB headset or sound card 
 around that uses generic Windows drivers, that might be a possible option. 
 But you might just want to grab some sighted help if available, because while 
 I know that isn’t ideal, it will probably be the easiest solution.
 
 Grant
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello List, 
 
 I'm always trying to think how I can accomplish this task of installing Win 
 8.1 through BootCamp without sighted assistance. I do have KNFB Reader 
 installed on my iPhone6, running 8.1. I know that you can get KNFB Reader to 
 read a monitor screen fairly successfully. So, my question is: Has anyone 
 been successful in getting Win 8.1 on their MacBook Air or Pro using this 
 method? I reviewed the Talking Installer to accomplish this, but the utility 
 is only for 32 bit machines, which makes me OOL. Also, I would like to know 
 if there are any keyboard shortcuts that would activate a command for lets 
 say the option button to reformat the bootcamp drive on the Windows side?  I 
 am well-verse in the process of performing the set up on my MacBook Air, so I 
 don't need instructions on this. I do apologize if this is slightly off 
 topic, but it does use the Mac, with another iDevice. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Kind regards, 
 Eileen 
 
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Re: Easiest Printers for the Mac

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi,

I have a Brother MFC 7340 black laser printer/scanner/fax. When I got my 
MacBook Air, it was true plug and play. It is a USB device, but I don't think I 
paid more than $150 for it. I need the flexibility of not running out of ink 
like on my ink jet printers. Before owning a Mac, this printer was hooked up to 
my Dell laptop. From time to time, I switch between the 2 operating systems 
with no problem. I have also set up a utility so my husband can print to it 
wirelessly from his laptop from across the room. I also can print from my 
iPhone 6 using Printer Pro. HTH. 

Best,
Eileen

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 On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 This printer sounds ideal for me.
 
 Please tell me, is this printer a small printer?
 
 I don't have a lot of room on my desk for a printer, hence I am asking. Thank 
 you.
 
 
 
 On 10 Dec 2014, at 2:41 am, Dan Rathburn rathburnda...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  
 Hi,
  
 I would recommend a laser printer if you're not doing a lot of printing.  
 The toner in a laser printer does not dry out and a cartridge can last a 
 very long time.  I've had a monochrome and color laser printer from Samsung 
 and been very happy with them.  I bought my Samsung CLP315 color laser 
 printer nearly four years ago and haven't needed to replace the starter 
 toner cartridge that came with the printer.  I would give a Samsung SLM2020w 
 monochrome laser printer a look.  They are Mac, PC, Airprint compatible and 
 are wireless as well.  They have a small footprint at only 13 inches wide 
 and 8 inches deep.  There are no inkjet cartridges to dry out and no nozzles 
 to keep clean.  Amazon has them for $61.00 USD.
  
 HTH,
  
 Dan
  
  
  
 
 From: Brian Fischler
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:59 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Easiest Printers for the Mac
 
 Thanks Phil, the big reason I have not gotten a printer besides the obvious 
 is for this reason print cartridges as I recall can get expensive. It’s a 
 shame to hear that they still dry out so quickly. Will have to research this 
 some to see if there is a printer suggestion for those of us who might not 
 print very often.
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think the big issue is the ink cartridges the printer will require. Ink 
 Cartridges dry out real quick if you don’t use them on a regular basis, and 
 finding a printer that takes a large capacity, easy to change set of 
 cartridges is key for me. Most features are standard on printers unless you 
 get into the high priced range. I have an old HP5150 deskjet printer that’s 
 over 10 years old and I plan to hang onto it as long as I can. It takes a 
 large capacity black ink cartridge that is easy to switch in and out and 
 runs like a tank.
 
 Also, I have a reminder set on my iPhone to print out a test page once a 
 week to keep the cartridge jets from drying out.
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Need to know exactly the same thing, but I also need it to work on a 
 windows machine also. No bells and whistles. It can be a little more than 
 fifty unless it does everything I want. Thanks! 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 For years I have been saying why do I need a printer when I can’t see 
 anything. Having to only print out a few things a year I always relied on 
 someone else to get things printed, but now am rethinking that as it is a 
 pain at times. Does anyone know of a printer for under $50 that they have 
 that needs little to no maintenance and is compact. Being that I would not 
 use it very much and I already have a scanner I do not think I need 
 something with all the bells and whistles. Would probably like to be able 
 to connect via bluetooth or my network as the less cables the better.
 
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Re: What is the best Audio Editor?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Jonathan,

That is super. I can't wait to see it and improve my skills in using Amadeus 
Pro. 

Take care. 

Cheers,
Eileen

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 On Dec 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi Gabriele. Amadeus Pro is not bad at all. I get a lot of work done with it. 
 And after being bugged about this by a lot of people, I'll be releasing a 
 very detailed audio tutorial on Amadeus Pro in early 2015. 
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 1/12/2014, at 7:52 am, Gabriele Battaglia iz4...@libero.it wrote:
 
 Hello, in your opinion and according with your user experience, what is the 
 best audio editor for a Voice Over friend?
 
 In terms of accessibility and complexity of features you may perform.
  I’m thinking to Audacity and Amadeus. What is the most accessible and the 
 most powerful one?
 Or… do you know any other software that can be used to copy, cut paste, mix 
 audio, apply effect, convert format, extract audio from video or cd, clean 
 up frequencies and clips/pop by using customizable filters and so forth.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Gabriel.
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Re: OT: WebEx

[Eileen Misrahi]

I would like to chime in and make a suggestion. In 2005-2008, I was in grad 
school using Blackboard. I know the 2 online services have merged. The office 
chat (real time) was not accessible in Blackboard. The solution was to have a 
fellow student read the real time chats. I was able to respond in the chat, but 
not continuously tab back and for between the real chat posts and responding to 
the chats. Just a suggestion. 

Best,
Eileen

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 On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Jason White ja...@jasonjgw.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I doubt that I can help much with this, as I have never heard of it. All I 
 can suggest is to visit the Web site to find out whether there are any 
 accessibility options (probably not, I suspect).
 
 You and your teacher should probably arrange to use something else due to the 
 accessibility problems.
 
 Jason.
 
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Re: running Embosser with Duxbury on my Mac

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello,

You need to call Duxbury support at 978-692-3000. Before deleting Windows in 
Bootcamp, I had my Juliette Pro 60 running just fine with Duxbury. I believe I 
sent you an email with a link in it on how to set up a generic text printer in 
the devices/printer dialog in Windows. I also have a parallel to USB cable 
adaptor. In the future, I will install the Juliette and Duxbury once again. 
What you want to accomplish is quite reasonable. HTH.

Eileen

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 On Nov 22, 2014, at 8:35 PM, Juliette Swiler jmswi...@samobile.net wrote:
 
 Well, according to tech support from Enabling Technologies, the only way it 
 will work is if I uninstall Windows and Fusion, and reinstall it using boot 
 camp. The tech support says the embosser will only work in boot camp. This is 
 really disappointing, and a major flaw of using fusion.
 On Nov 22, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Roland Zitzke roland.zit...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, these USB to parallel adapters are actually printer port adapters. This 
 means that they connect a centronics printer to your USB host. They do not - 
 and they can not - simulate all aspoects of a parallel interface. a 
 classical parallel interface allows for port level IO which is simply not 
 possible via USB.
 A printer port - sometimes referred to as centronics port - only uses a 
 subset of these features.
 Therefore, your embosser might simply rely on features not supported with 
 the USB printer port class.
 /Roland
 
 Am Samstag, 22. November 2014 16:40:39 UTC+1 schrieb Juliette Swiler:
 
 Left a message yesterday for support at Enabling Technologies. Haven’t 
 heard back from them yet. May have to try calling support at Duxbury 
 Systems though.
 On Nov 21, 2014, at 5:34 PM, er...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 
 Some of these adapters work and some don't, while embossers made before a 
 certain date won't work on 7 no matter what cable you have.  Don't be shy 
 to call support.
 
 
 
 Sent from my android device.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Juliette Swiler jmsw...@samobile.net
 To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 2:42 PM
 Subject: running Embosser with Duxbury on my Mac
 
 I am running a Mac Book Air with Windows 7 Professional and trying to get 
 an Enabling Technologies embosser to work properly with Duxbury. I can’t 
 seem to get the computer and embosser to communicate with each other 
 properly. I am trying to use a USB to parallel port cable since the Mac 
 does not have a parallel port. I am assuming I am going to have to call 
 tech support at Enabling to get some help with this. Any ideas would be 
 greatly appreciated. I have an Enabling Thomas embosser. 
 
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