Re: A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Nebojsa Tasic]

If you move cursor left, it will be to the left of the spoken character 
and you can delete the spoken character by pressing Fn+Backspace.
If you move cursor right, it will be placed to the right of the spoken 
character and you can delete the spoken character with Backspace.

It is the same if you go word by word.


On 6.4.2021. 22:42, Mary-Jo Lord wrote:
Thank you all for your replies and comments. It would have probably 
been better if I learned the way Voiceover does it in the first place. 
It’s hard to undo over 29 years of another behavior though. I’ll give 
this setting a try and see if it is reliable.


Mary-Jo


On Apr 5, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Brett Lewis > wrote:


Hi,
I think it is under verbosity/text.  You can change the announcement 
of text to be the character to the right of the caret.
Sadly I have found this to be unreliable. That is, it works some 
times and other times it announces the wrong character.

I found it too flakey to use anything but the default.
YMMV.
Brett


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:20 AM Mary-Jo Lord > wrote:


Hi,

I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
and can’t seem to get it right.

Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make
this
possible.

I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
the NFB. “If
you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
editing. This
is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.

Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.

Mary-Jo

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Re: A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Mary-Jo Lord]

Thank you all for your replies and comments. It would have probably been better 
if I learned the way Voiceover does it in the first place. It’s hard to undo 
over 29 years of another behavior though. I’ll give this setting a try and see 
if it is reliable.

Mary-Jo


> On Apr 5, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I think it is under verbosity/text.  You can change the announcement of text 
> to be the character to the right of the caret.
> Sadly I have found this to be unreliable.  That is, it works some times and 
> other times it announces the wrong character. 
> I found it too flakey to use anything but the default.
> YMMV.
> Brett
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:20 AM Mary-Jo Lord  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
> struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
> for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
> I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
> delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
> and can’t seem to get it right.
> 
> Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
> is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
> screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
> through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make this
> possible.
> 
> I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
> the NFB. “If
> you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
> have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
> editing. This
> is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
> and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.
> 
> Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.
> 
> Mary-Jo
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Re: A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Nebojsa Tasic]

Oh, that's what I had had many problems with before I figured it out.

On 5.4.2021. 21:00, Brad Snyder wrote:
I also much prefer the default setting of having VoiceOver speak the 
character that VoiceOver passes over.
I think this is a big advantage to using VoiceOver on a Mac, versus 
it’s Windows counterparts.  I find this to be much less confusing than 
the JAWS/NVDA standard of speaking the character to the right of the 
cursor.

I really wish this option existed in JAWS/NVDA and even narrator.

- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:01, Brett Lewis > wrote:


Hi,
I think it is under verbosity/text.  You can change the announcement 
of text to be the character to the right of the caret.
Sadly I have found this to be unreliable. That is, it works some 
times and other times it announces the wrong character.

I found it too flakey to use anything but the default.
YMMV.
Brett


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:20 AM Mary-Jo Lord > wrote:


Hi,

I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
and can’t seem to get it right.

Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make this
possible.

I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
the NFB. “If
you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
editing. This
is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.

Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.

Mary-Jo

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Re: A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Brad Snyder]

I also much prefer the default setting of having VoiceOver speak the character 
that VoiceOver passes over.
I think this is a big advantage to using VoiceOver on a Mac, versus it’s 
Windows counterparts.  I find this to be much less confusing than the JAWS/NVDA 
standard of speaking the character to the right of the cursor.
I really wish this option existed in JAWS/NVDA and even narrator.

- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:01, Brett Lewis  wrote:

Hi,
I think it is under verbosity/text.  You can change the announcement of text to 
be the character to the right of the caret.
Sadly I have found this to be unreliable.  That is, it works some times and 
other times it announces the wrong character. 
I found it too flakey to use anything but the default.
YMMV.
Brett


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:20 AM Mary-Jo Lord mailto:maryjo.lord...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
and can’t seem to get it right.

Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make this
possible.

I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
the NFB. “If
you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
editing. This
is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.

Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.

Mary-Jo

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Re: A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
I think it is under verbosity/text.  You can change the announcement of
text to be the character to the right of the caret.
Sadly I have found this to be unreliable.  That is, it works some times and
other times it announces the wrong character.
I found it too flakey to use anything but the default.
YMMV.
Brett


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:20 AM Mary-Jo Lord 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
> struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
> for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
> I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
> delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
> and can’t seem to get it right.
>
> Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
> is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
> screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
> through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make this
> possible.
>
> I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
> the NFB. “If
> you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
> have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
> editing. This
> is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
> and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.
>
> Mary-Jo
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A Question About a Possible Voiceover Utility Setting

[Mary-Jo Lord]

Hi,

I have frequently struggled with editing on the Mac. Part of my
struggle is that I use windows for my job and for editing that I do
for my writing group. As a result, when I attempt to edit on the Mac,
I find myself confused as to where the cursor needs to be when I
delete or add characters or words. I’ve listened to several tutorials
and can’t seem to get it right.

Over the weekend on his podcast, Jonathan Mohsen Mentioned that there
is a setting that allows Voiceover to mimic the way that windows
screen readers handle the placement of the cursor. I have looked
through the Voiceover utility and did not find a checkbox to make this
possible.

I did a search on Google and found this sentence in an old article by
the NFB. “If
you want a more Windows-like feel to Voiceover, you can now choose to
have it speak only what is to the right of the Voiceover cursor when
editing. This
is configurable within the VO control panel.” Is this still possible
and where would I find this setting? I’m running Catalina.

Thank you in advance for any help that anybody has to offer.

Mary-Jo

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