Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi yes I am in the UK so Fios is not an option for us. We have providers like 
Sky, Virgin and Bt but their boxes leave a lot to be desired for accessibility 
and I do not wish to pay extra anyway if I can get all my programs on the UK 
version of Freeview. Just my £0.02 worth.

> On 17 Dec 2017, at 22:54, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christopher,
>  
> Are you in the UK? I don’t know if that makes a difference or not. For the 
> time being at least, I don’t intend to get rid of my Fios TV option. So, are 
> you saying that if say, Fios offers programs that are described for blind 
> viewers, then Apple TV over-rides that and the descriptions are not 
> available? That would be a game changer for me.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: Macvisionaries
> Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?
>  
> Hello, personally I do not recommend Apple TV. while it has some good parts, 
> like out of the box accessibility, there are some bad parts too. In my 
> experience of using Apple TV, both third and fourth generation, whilst there 
> were lots of content available, the majority of them were not audio 
> described, apart from what's available on Netflix and uk based BBC iPlayer. I 
> also thought the paid subscription services from both uk based TV Player and 
> Now TV were also a waste  of money. As a result, I have now gone back to free 
> to air television where most, but not all, programs feature audio 
> description, and there is no cost other than an annual TV license which is 
> required to watch and record live television as well as using BBC iPlayer, 
> including downloading and streaming on demand content.
> 
> > On 16 Dec 2017, at 19:29, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> >  
> > I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no 
> > longer use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I 
> > want to be sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and 
> > encountering  problems.
> >  
> > First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I 
> > really am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports 
> > which are needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a 
> > difference with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to 
> > find out that I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in 
> > totally good condition.
> >  
> > Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> > Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> > cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
> >  
> > Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was 
> > the IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> > accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as 
> > getting it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory 
> > and I’m wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably 
> > won’t use it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why 
> > I’d need greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the 
> > device can do other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly 
> > appreciated.
> >  
> > Thanks so much.
> > 
> > Eileen
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RE: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Simon Fogarty]

I find that really interesting 

I have had the last three versions of the apple tv and I can't say I've been 
upset by the lack of so called accessibility 
We don't get a lot of audio description with new Zealand tv shows unless you 
purchase a set top box which is a free view system that costs a lot more than 
apple tv does 
Also needs to be in a number of cases setup using non English language and 
region settings,
 Where as I plug in and setup my apple tv using voiceover and by my self,
 I down load the apps and content I wish to have 
And movies I purchase or rent off itunes allow me to have AD if the movie has 
that feature enabled.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, 18 December 2017 9:04 AM
To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

Hello, personally I do not recommend Apple TV. while it has some good parts, 
like out of the box accessibility, there are some bad parts too. In my 
experience of using Apple TV, both third and fourth generation, whilst there 
were lots of content available, the majority of them were not audio described, 
apart from what's available on Netflix and uk based BBC iPlayer. I also thought 
the paid subscription services from both uk based TV Player and Now TV were 
also a waste of money. As a result, I have now gone back to free to air 
television where most, but not all, programs feature audio description, and 
there is no cost other than an annual TV license which is required to watch and 
record live television as well as using BBC iPlayer, including downloading and 
streaming on demand content.

> On 16 Dec 2017, at 19:29, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
> use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
> sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering 
> problems.
>  
> First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
> am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
> needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference 
> with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that 
> I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good 
> condition.
>  
> Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
>  
> Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
> IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting 
> it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m 
> wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use 
> it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need 
> greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the device can do 
> other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Eileen
> 
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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[David Chittenden]

Actually, not very many Amazon Prime shows have audio description. For those 
that do, audio description is automatically switched on. For people who look at 
the ACB list, most of the shows on said list are not included in the Prime 
line-up. They cost extra to watch in Amazon Prime.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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> On 18 Dec 2017, at 08:54, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christopher,
>  
> Are you in the UK? I don’t know if that makes a difference or not. For the 
> time being at least, I don’t intend to get rid of my Fios TV option. So, are 
> you saying that if say, Fios offers programs that are described for blind 
> viewers, then Apple TV over-rides that and the descriptions are not 
> available? That would be a game changer for me.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: Macvisionaries
> Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?
>  
> Hello, personally I do not recommend Apple TV. while it has some good parts, 
> like out of the box accessibility, there are some bad parts too. In my 
> experience of using Apple TV, both third and fourth generation, whilst there 
> were lots of content available, the majority of them were not audio 
> described, apart from what's available on Netflix and uk based BBC iPlayer. I 
> also thought the paid subscription services from both uk based TV Player and 
> Now TV were also a waste  of money. As a result, I have now gone back to free 
> to air television where most, but not all, programs feature audio 
> description, and there is no cost other than an annual TV license which is 
> required to watch and record live television as well as using BBC iPlayer, 
> including downloading and streaming on demand content.
> 
> > On 16 Dec 2017, at 19:29, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> >  
> > I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no 
> > longer use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I 
> > want to be sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and 
> > encountering  problems.
> >  
> > First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I 
> > really am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports 
> > which are needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a 
> > difference with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to 
> > find out that I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in 
> > totally good condition.
> >  
> > Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> > Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> > cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
> >  
> > Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was 
> > the IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> > accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as 
> > getting it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory 
> > and I’m wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably 
> > won’t use it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why 
> > I’d need greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the 
> > device can do other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly 
> > appreciated.
> >  
> > Thanks so much.
> > 
> > Eileen
> > 
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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Christopher, 

Are you in the UK? I don’t know if that makes a difference or not. For the time 
being at least, I don’t intend to get rid of my Fios TV option. So, are you 
saying that if say, Fios offers programs that are described for blind viewers, 
then Apple TV over-rides that and the descriptions are not available? That 
would be a game changer for me.

Eileen


From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:03 PM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

Hello, personally I do not recommend Apple TV. while it has some good parts, 
like out of the box accessibility, there are some bad parts too. In my 
experience of using Apple TV, both third and fourth generation, whilst there 
were lots of content available, the majority of them were not audio described, 
apart from what's available on Netflix and uk based BBC iPlayer. I also thought 
the paid subscription services from both uk based TV Player and Now TV were 
also a waste of money. As a result, I have now gone back to free to air 
television where most, but not all, programs feature audio description, and 
there is no cost other than an annual TV license which is required to watch and 
record live television as well as using BBC iPlayer, including downloading and 
streaming on demand content.

> On 16 Dec 2017, at 19:29, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
> use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
> sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering 
> problems.
>  
> First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
> am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
> needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference 
> with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that 
> I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good 
> condition.
>  
> Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
>  
> Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
> IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting 
> it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m 
> wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use 
> it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need 
> greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the device can do 
> other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Eileen
> 
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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, personally I do not recommend Apple TV. while it has some good parts, 
like out of the box accessibility, there are some bad parts too. In my 
experience of using Apple TV, both third and fourth generation, whilst there 
were lots of content available, the majority of them were not audio described, 
apart from what's available on Netflix and uk based BBC iPlayer. I also thought 
the paid subscription services from both uk based TV Player and Now TV were 
also a waste of money. As a result, I have now gone back to free to air 
television where most, but not all, programs feature audio description, and 
there is no cost other than an annual TV license which is required to watch and 
record live television as well as using BBC iPlayer, including downloading and 
streaming on demand content.

> On 16 Dec 2017, at 19:29, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
> use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
> sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering 
> problems.
>  
> First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
> am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
> needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference 
> with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that 
> I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good 
> condition.
>  
> Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
>  
> Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
> IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting 
> it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m 
> wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use 
> it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need 
> greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the device can do 
> other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Eileen
> 
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RE: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi,

If it’s one of the new apple tv 4gen or 4 k devices then a triple click on the 
top left hand button that is the button diagonally opposite to the longer 
volume button.

The little screen is at the bottom of the remote when you hold it up,
So in that position the top left hand button three quick presses.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Sunday, 17 December 2017 9:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

Jeff,

Thanks. While I was able to feel the unit in the store they did not have it 
hooked up for any service. Would you mind letting me know which button on the 
remote gets pressed (I’m assuming the triple press) to turn VO on? The girl 
while knowledgeable about the phone was not able to tell me much about the 
Apple TV & VO or how to get VO up and running without the unit actually 
operating.

Thanks. Looks like I’ll be getting them!

Eileen


From: Jeff Berwick
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart.
2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.

I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
administration of them myself.

Jeff



On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani 
<etscriv...@verizon.net<mailto:etscriv...@verizon.net>> wrote:

Hi All,

I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really am 
not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much.

Eileen

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RE: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi,

I’ve got a 32 inch Samsung tv which is 9 years old and it works fine with my 
apple tv 3g 4gen and 4k,
The 4k doesn’t have the same screen res but it still works  So I can’t see what 
trouble you’d have.

And Yes I believe just recently amazon released an apple tv app for amazon 
prime.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Sunday, 17 December 2017 8:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

Hi All,

I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really am 
not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much.

Eileen
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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

First if you click the siri button and say turn VoiceOver on, this will work.
Secondly, we also have VIOS and although the TV one time authorization 
functions do not work with VIOS, you can authorize the Comedy Central, HBO, AMC 
applications to give you access to older content from these channels. I have 
not personally done this authorization, but generally it involves logging into 
your Verizon account on a phone (or perhaps computer) and entering a code that 
appears on the TV. 

One final thing, apparently with Samsung sets the TV will automatically turn on 
when the Apple TV wakes up. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 16, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
>  
> Sorry, just one more thing I forgot to ask in my original post. Currently 
> with my cable set up, I have text to speech turned on so I can do a few 
> things using the Fios remote. However, it drives me crazy that I cannot use 
> on Demand with the Fios remote. Will having an Apple TV make navigating an 
> option like this and the menuse offered through Fios any easier?
>  
> Thanks again.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: Jeff Berwick <>
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?
>  
> 1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart.
> 2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
> long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
> 3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.
>  
> I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
> administration of them myself.
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net <>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
>> use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
>> sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering 
>> problems.
>>  
>> First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
>> am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
>> needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference 
>> with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that 
>> I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good 
>> condition.
>>  
>> Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
>> Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
>> cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
>>  
>> Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
>> IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
>> accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting 
>> it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m 
>> wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t 
>> use it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need 
>> greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the device can do 
>> other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.
>>  
>> Thanks so much.
>> 
>> Eileen
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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hello All,

Sorry, just one more thing I forgot to ask in my original post. Currently with 
my cable set up, I have text to speech turned on so I can do a few things using 
the Fios remote. However, it drives me crazy that I cannot use on Demand with 
the Fios remote. Will having an Apple TV make navigating an option like this 
and the menuse offered through Fios any easier?

Thanks again.

Eileen 


From: Jeff Berwick 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart. 
2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.

I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
administration of them myself.

Jeff



  On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi All, 

  I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

  First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

  Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

  Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

  Thanks so much.

  Eileen

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Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Jeff, 

Thanks. While I was able to feel the unit in the store they did not have it 
hooked up for any service. Would you mind letting me know which button on the 
remote gets pressed (I’m assuming the triple press) to turn VO on? The girl 
while knowledgeable about the phone was not able to tell me much about the 
Apple TV & VO or how to get VO up and running without the unit actually 
operating.

Thanks. Looks like I’ll be getting them!

Eileen


From: Jeff Berwick 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart. 
2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.

I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
administration of them myself.

Jeff



  On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi All, 

  I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

  First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

  Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

  Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

  Thanks so much.

  Eileen

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[Jeff Berwick]

1.  All the Apple TV needs is an HDMI port—the TV doesn’t have to be smart.
2.  I don’t use Amazon Prime, but I suspect it is an app and, therefore, as 
long as Amazon has programmed in accessibility, it will be fine.
3.  The Apple TV is fully accessible as it has Voiceover builtin.

I have a couple of Apple TV IV units and haven’t had any trouble doing the 
administration of them myself.

Jeff


> On Dec 16, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
> use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
> sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering 
> problems.
>  
> First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really 
> am not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
> needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference 
> with using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that 
> I’ll have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good 
> condition.
>  
> Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
> Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
> cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?
>  
> Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
> IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with 
> accessibility for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting 
> it set up? And, also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m 
> wondering how to determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use 
> it for looking at pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need 
> greater memory. I’m wondering what other types of things the device can do 
> other than the various TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.
>  
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Eileen
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Apple TV Questions/Considerations?

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi All, 

I will be getting Apple gift cards from turning in a few devices I no longer 
use. I’m considering getting 2 Apple TV’s with the gift cards. I want to be 
sure I’m doing the right thing before purchasing them and encountering problems.

First, I have relatively new television sets, Samsung 32” inch, but I really am 
not sure if it is a “Smart” TV. I know the TV’s have HDMI ports which are 
needed for Apple TV. If they are not Smart TV’s will it make a difference with 
using Apple TV? I don’t want to get the Apple TV only to find out that I’ll 
have to upgrade TV’s that are only 3-4 years old and in totally good condition.

Second, the tech people at Apple tell me the Apple TV will work with Amazon 
Prime which is the only alternate type of service I have in addition to my 
cable provider. Does anyone know if this is correct?

Finally when I was in the Apple store I saw the Apple TV, I think it was the 
IV, and I’m wondering what anyone else’s experience has been with accessibility 
for a totally blind person in both using it as well as getting it set up? And, 
also I know they come with either 32 or 64 memory and I’m wondering how to 
determine the better choice for myself. I probably won’t use it for looking at 
pictures, but am not sure of the reasons why I’d need greater memory. I’m 
wondering what other types of things the device can do other than the various 
TV watching apps. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much.

Eileen

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