Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're talking two different things here. when you're looking at upload and download, usually that's measured in mbits. So 8 mbits gives you 128 kbps up/down. Now if you're using any kind of js, some of those are 32 (jquery, bootstrap etc). css adds another say 16 which brings us to a grand total of 48. If your webpage is 4 kb, that puts us at 52. Add another couple for header information etc and we're now at 54. Two visitors at once and you have what we call a saturated connection. Bandwidth feels like a lot, but when you actually start sending data out it ends up that what you thought of as a lot isn't anymore. On 6/24/2015 9:53 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Depends on what kind of pages and amount of traffic you will be serving. If it's mostly text content you won't need much bandwidth to serve up web pages. A commercial broadband service will probably be required to get a static IP, at least that's what Cox cable in my area required. With just 512kb up (about 50K per second) it works ok for basic web serving. A nice UPS battery backup can keep a Mac mini and a cablemodem going for quite a while. The web sharing checkbox is gone in preferences on OSX 10.10 but Apple still bundles the Apache web server, which you can turn on via terminal commands. You can still play and set things up to serve pages just to yourself on your local network before you go live. Registering a domain through somebody like GoDaddy is $10 for a year and up to $14.50 for 10 years. For that much it might make sense to register your domain before somebody else takes it even if it does nothing but sit there for a while. CB On 6/23/15 10:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Thanks, Krysti. that's about what I thought, and right now I probably don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it. good to know, though, if we ever move back to a place where we get better internet service, I might give it a try. Cheers, Donna On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Right, I have the cheapest plan possible which was 512kb outbound or about 50K/second. My basic page is 141K and much of that is because of a few images so it takes about 3 seconds to load on initial view. I have all the static content set for caching so loading the page a second time comes in at well under 1 second. My site is really low traffic so that works and it gives me a nice mac-based playground to try things with. I don't think they even sell 512KB upload speeds anymore. I just set up port forwarding on the airport so all inbound requests to port 80 go to the mac mini. CB On 6/24/15 10:02 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You're talking two different things here. when you're looking at upload and download, usually that's measured in mbits. So 8 mbits gives you 128 kbps up/down. Now if you're using any kind of js, some of those are 32 (jquery, bootstrap etc). css adds another say 16 which brings us to a grand total of 48. If your webpage is 4 kb, that puts us at 52. Add another couple for header information etc and we're now at 54. Two visitors at once and you have what we call a saturated connection. Bandwidth feels like a lot, but when you actually start sending data out it ends up that what you thought of as a lot isn't anymore. On 6/24/2015 9:53 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Depends on what kind of pages and amount of traffic you will be serving. If it's mostly text content you won't need much bandwidth to serve up web pages. A commercial broadband service will probably be required to get a static IP, at least that's what Cox cable in my area required. With just 512kb up (about 50K per second) it works ok for basic web serving. A nice UPS battery backup can keep a Mac mini and a cablemodem going for quite a while. The web sharing checkbox is gone in preferences on OSX 10.10 but Apple still bundles the Apache web server, which you can turn on via terminal commands. You can still play and set things up to serve pages just to yourself on your local network before you go live. Registering a domain through somebody like GoDaddy is $10 for a year and up to $14.50 for 10 years. For that much it might make sense to register your domain before somebody else takes it even if it does nothing but sit there for a while. CB On 6/23/15 10:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Thanks, Krysti. that's about what I thought, and right now I probably don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it. good to know, though, if we ever move back to a place where we get better internet service, I might give it a try. Cheers, Donna On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Depends on what kind of pages and amount of traffic you will be serving. If it's mostly text content you won't need much bandwidth to serve up web pages. A commercial broadband service will probably be required to get a static IP, at least that's what Cox cable in my area required. With just 512kb up (about 50K per second) it works ok for basic web serving. A nice UPS battery backup can keep a Mac mini and a cablemodem going for quite a while. The web sharing checkbox is gone in preferences on OSX 10.10 but Apple still bundles the Apache web server, which you can turn on via terminal commands. You can still play and set things up to serve pages just to yourself on your local network before you go live. Registering a domain through somebody like GoDaddy is $10 for a year and up to $14.50 for 10 years. For that much it might make sense to register your domain before somebody else takes it even if it does nothing but sit there for a while. CB On 6/23/15 10:09 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Thanks, Krysti. that's about what I thought, and right now I probably don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it. good to know, though, if we ever move back to a place where we get better internet service, I might give it a try. Cheers, Donna On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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I work for my friends company Cat 'N Mouse Computers On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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What a great company name! I love it! On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: I work for my friends company Cat 'N Mouse Computers On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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To check your speed go to www.speedtest.net On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Your welcome On Jun 23, 2015 11:09 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Thanks, Krysti. that's about what I thought, and right now I probably don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it. good to know, though, if we ever move back to a place where we get better internet service, I might give it a try. Cheers, Donna On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Hello: That’s actually pretty hard to do if you don’t have the experience. You have two options. Well, three actually. First, if you have a stable connection and a lot of bandwidth depending on your visitors and the type of content you serve, you -could- serve from home. You will need a dedicated system to do this and a good setup, as well as a static IP address. This really isn’t recommended but it’s doable. Second you have two choices. You could either get a VPS (virtual private server) or a dedicated server. VPS servers are ran by a company who runs multiple servers on one machine through virtualization technology. They use KVM or xen and it’s really fast for most people. Prices range from $10+ depending on what you’re needing. I recommend two companies: http://linode.com http://linode.com/ and: http://digitalocean.com http://digitalocean.com/ I’ve had good experience with both. Your second option and more expensive is to run a dedicated server. Mine currently runs $120 from: http://arpnetworks.com http://arpnetworks.com/ Specs are: 1 1 tb platter drive 16 gb ram 3.4 GHZ quad core intel zeon. You would generally choose a dedicated server over a VPS when you exceed the resource limits. For example something with that configuration on Linode would probably not catch up to the 1 tb in storage I have and cost me way more. Now there’s a pitfall to all of this; you need to know Linux or BSD well (really well). I deal with security threats about once a week, optimize and work on my website based on visitors (I’m hosting a few others), etc. If you want your own email that’s another set of issues because you’ll be tuning things there. For example I just added some more stuff to my system to help deal with spam a lot better. It’s a time investment that you don’t have if you pay someone else to do it for you. Please let me know if you have any more general questions. Thanks, On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Thanks, Krysti. that's about what I thought, and right now I probably don't have a strong enough infrastructure to do it. good to know, though, if we ever move back to a place where we get better internet service, I might give it a try. Cheers, Donna On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Nancy I know how to code in HTML 5 and can do it for free On Jun 23, 2015 12:12 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Two things I forgot to mention here. The speed you will probably want to pay close attention to is the upload speed. It’s usually about 20% of your download speed on most home connections (for a pretty good reason generally). You will be uploading content to your users who are downloading, so that’s the most important and will cost you to get higher. Second, if you are running anything at all of importance and say the cat kicks the tower, a storm takes your power out your site is down. Home connections are not assured they will be up 100% of the time. Hosts generally have servers in data centers where they have redundant internet links from multiple backbones as well as power generators on site to insure that in the case of power loss your site will stay up if possible. Many rack servers even have redundant power supplies and racks can (and usually do) have UPS systems mounted in the rack as well for more redundancy. HTH, On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: To check your speed go to www.speedtest.net http://www.speedtest.net/ On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
So, you could do a few things. I guess my first question would be, do you want to simply just host your own web site, or are you wanting to actually gain customers in addition to your own site, and offer web hosting as well? That would be my first question. Ultimately though, you have several options. Basically, you could do really one of two practical things: 1. You could set up a computer to act as your server, and then install something like Linux. Granted, you'd have to then install the necessary packages like apache, etc. unless you got a distro that already had them included. Most server edition distros obviously do. Again though, this would involve at least somewhat of a good bit of knowledge of Unix/Linux in knowing how to configure things. The other option would be to go through a hosting provider. No, they would not be hosting your web site, you'd! still be doing that, but you'd basically rent either monthly or anually from them a dedicated server. You really don't want to be running a server off of a VPS. You can, but it's really not recommended. Mainly because if you're going to host your own stuff yourself, and totally manage it yourself, then you're going to want as much resources as you can pull from the machine to be your own. With a VPS, Virtual Private server, you're basically sharing the over all server in the host's data center with other customers. This really isn't a problem at all if you're trying to let the host take care of the hosting/server management work for you, but since you say you're wanting to do this yourself, then yeah. The other thing that you need to also consider is, do you want to go through ICan and be able to host your own TLD, toplevel domain. If so, then you'll need to get qualified as a domain registrar. Generally, that process isn't too, too difficult to do, but it can take a little work, and certainly a teeny bit of processing time. It's generally fairly quick, but again, it is the internet, so anything goes. I'd be happy to discuss this with you further off list, if you'd like. clgillan...@gmail.com Have a delightful day! Chris. - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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I'd presume that's a local computer shop, mom and pop kind a thing by it's name? LOL! Cute name though. Chris. - Original Message - From: Krysti .Power To: Mac Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? I work for my friends company Cat 'N Mouse Computers On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Terriffic point, Tyler. I guess I just figured that the power outage thing is something she would have already inferred, but you are right. It's worth mentionning. Good point. Oh, and BTW, in another post, Tyler recommended Digital Ocean: http://www.digitalocean.com I strongly! strongly! would agree with him on this. Linode seemed to be a bit pricy for what I did, but what I love! about Digital Ocean is, you create your droplet, then you basically only pay for the amount of time you use it. So, in other words, let's say you got their lowest Linux based droplet. That's I think, like, $5, if I remember correctly? So, say you only used that server for 2 days powered on. I'd have to do the math, but basically, if you then destroyed that droplet after 2 days, then, out of the 30 day monthly charge, you'd only actually! have to pay for those 2 days you were up and running. It's Gr'r'r'rate! if you just need a server temporarily, or just want to benchmark something long enough to see how it would function. I'll give you a perfect example. Not that you're trying to do this, but, I wanted to see with certain specs how well hypothetically I could run Asterisk along with Nerdvittles Incrediblepbx. So, I created a droplet with those specs, logged in via SSH and installed Incrediblepbx, used it for about a day, realized I needed something a little more powerful, so destroied the droplet two days later, and bam! That was the end of it. I only paid for those two days, as aposed to the whole month. I think my final bill was only like maybe a dollar, if even that. Obviously, it would be more than that if you were trying to host a web site, as you'd want the server up all the time, and obviously wouldn't want your droplet destroyed, but my point is more just that Digital Ocean gives you that option in the first place. I don't think Linode does that, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I've not used them in ages. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Two things I forgot to mention here. The speed you will probably want to pay close attention to is the upload speed. It’s usually about 20% of your download speed on most home connections (for a pretty good reason generally). You will be uploading content to your users who are downloading, so that’s the most important and will cost you to get higher. Second, if you are running anything at all of importance and say the cat kicks the tower, a storm takes your power out your site is down. Home connections are not assured they will be up 100% of the time. Hosts generally have servers in data centers where they have redundant internet links from multiple backbones as well as power generators on site to insure that in the case of power loss your site will stay up if possible. Many rack servers even have redundant power supplies and racks can (and usually do) have UPS systems mounted in the rack as well for more redundancy. HTH, On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: To check your speed go to www.speedtest.net On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets
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Tyler, I'm going to save this message with the link you provided, as I'm actually shopping around for dedicated servers to see what I can get for the best bang for my buck. This server you're using sounds actually like a damn good deal! My question to you is, can they install Cent-OS on the server, and if so, would I have to install it myself, or do they have configurations with the license already included in the price that would also give me CPanel access? If so, then, I'm definitely! definitely! going to look into this. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Hello: That’s actually pretty hard to do if you don’t have the experience. You have two options. Well, three actually. First, if you have a stable connection and a lot of bandwidth depending on your visitors and the type of content you serve, you -could- serve from home. You will need a dedicated system to do this and a good setup, as well as a static IP address. This really isn’t recommended but it’s doable. Second you have two choices. You could either get a VPS (virtual private server) or a dedicated server. VPS servers are ran by a company who runs multiple servers on one machine through virtualization technology. They use KVM or xen and it’s really fast for most people. Prices range from $10+ depending on what you’re needing. I recommend two companies: http://linode.com and: http://digitalocean.com I’ve had good experience with both. Your second option and more expensive is to run a dedicated server. Mine currently runs $120 from: http://arpnetworks.com Specs are: 1 1 tb platter drive 16 gb ram 3.4 GHZ quad core intel zeon. You would generally choose a dedicated server over a VPS when you exceed the resource limits. For example something with that configuration on Linode would probably not catch up to the 1 tb in storage I have and cost me way more. Now there’s a pitfall to all of this; you need to know Linux or BSD well (really well). I deal with security threats about once a week, optimize and work on my website based on visitors (I’m hosting a few others), etc. If you want your own email that’s another set of issues because you’ll be tuning things there. For example I just added some more stuff to my system to help deal with spam a lot better. It’s a time investment that you don’t have if you pay someone else to do it for you. Please let me know if you have any more general questions. Thanks, On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You
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Linda does offer this feature. It’s called hourly billing. As does Amazon EC2. On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Terriffic point, Tyler. I guess I just figured that the power outage thing is something she would have already inferred, but you are right. It's worth mentionning. Good point. Oh, and BTW, in another post, Tyler recommended Digital Ocean: http://www.digitalocean.com http://www.digitalocean.com/ I strongly! strongly! would agree with him on this. Linode seemed to be a bit pricy for what I did, but what I love! about Digital Ocean is, you create your droplet, then you basically only pay for the amount of time you use it. So, in other words, let's say you got their lowest Linux based droplet. That's I think, like, $5, if I remember correctly? So, say you only used that server for 2 days powered on. I'd have to do the math, but basically, if you then destroyed that droplet after 2 days, then, out of the 30 day monthly charge, you'd only actually! have to pay for those 2 days you were up and running. It's Gr'r'r'rate! if you just need a server temporarily, or just want to benchmark something long enough to see how it would function. I'll give you a perfect example. Not that you're trying to do this, but, I wanted to see with certain specs how well hypothetically I could run Asterisk along with Nerdvittles Incrediblepbx. So, I created a droplet with those specs, logged in via SSH and installed Incrediblepbx, used it for about a day, realized I needed something a little more powerful, so destroied the droplet two days later, and bam! That was the end of it. I only paid for those two days, as aposed to the whole month. I think my final bill was only like maybe a dollar, if even that. Obviously, it would be more than that if you were trying to host a web site, as you'd want the server up all the time, and obviously wouldn't want your droplet destroyed, but my point is more just that Digital Ocean gives you that option in the first place. I don't think Linode does that, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I've not used them in ages. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Two things I forgot to mention here. The speed you will probably want to pay close attention to is the upload speed. It’s usually about 20% of your download speed on most home connections (for a pretty good reason generally). You will be uploading content to your users who are downloading, so that’s the most important and will cost you to get higher. Second, if you are running anything at all of importance and say the cat kicks the tower, a storm takes your power out your site is down. Home connections are not assured they will be up 100% of the time. Hosts generally have servers in data centers where they have redundant internet links from multiple backbones as well as power generators on site to insure that in the case of power loss your site will stay up if possible. Many rack servers even have redundant power supplies and racks can (and usually do) have UPS systems mounted in the rack as well for more redundancy. HTH, On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: To check your speed go to www.speedtest.net http://www.speedtest.net/ On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can
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Here is a resource I am currently using: www.w3schools.com On 22 Jun 2015, at 23:29, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Oh ok. When I was with them back in the days they didn't. I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Linda does offer this feature. It’s called hourly billing. As does Amazon EC2. On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Terriffic point, Tyler. I guess I just figured that the power outage thing is something she would have already inferred, but you are right. It's worth mentionning. Good point. Oh, and BTW, in another post, Tyler recommended Digital Ocean: http://www.digitalocean.com I strongly! strongly! would agree with him on this. Linode seemed to be a bit pricy for what I did, but what I love! about Digital Ocean is, you create your droplet, then you basically only pay for the amount of time you use it. So, in other words, let's say you got their lowest Linux based droplet. That's I think, like, $5, if I remember correctly? So, say you only used that server for 2 days powered on. I'd have to do the math, but basically, if you then destroyed that droplet after 2 days, then, out of the 30 day monthly charge, you'd only actually! have to pay for those 2 days you were up and running. It's Gr'r'r'rate! if you just need a server temporarily, or just want to benchmark something long enough to see how it would function. I'll give you a perfect example. Not that you're trying to do this, but, I wanted to see with certain specs how well hypothetically I could run Asterisk along with Nerdvittles Incrediblepbx. So, I created a droplet with those specs, logged in via SSH and installed Incrediblepbx, used it for about a day, realized I needed something a little more powerful, so destroied the droplet two days later, and bam! That was the end of it. I only paid for those two days, as aposed to the whole month. I think my final bill was only like maybe a dollar, if even that. Obviously, it would be more than that if you were trying to host a web site, as you'd want the server up all the time, and obviously wouldn't want your droplet destroyed, but my point is more just that Digital Ocean gives you that option in the first place. I don't think Linode does that, please correct me if I'm wrong, as I've not used them in ages. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Two things I forgot to mention here. The speed you will probably want to pay close attention to is the upload speed. It’s usually about 20% of your download speed on most home connections (for a pretty good reason generally). You will be uploading content to your users who are downloading, so that’s the most important and will cost you to get higher. Second, if you are running anything at all of importance and say the cat kicks the tower, a storm takes your power out your site is down. Home connections are not assured they will be up 100% of the time. Hosts generally have servers in data centers where they have redundant internet links from multiple backbones as well as power generators on site to insure that in the case of power loss your site will stay up if possible. Many rack servers even have redundant power supplies and racks can (and usually do) have UPS systems mounted in the rack as well for more redundancy. HTH, On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: To check your speed go to www.speedtest.net On Jun 23, 2015 11:00 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: You need a decated computer needed to be left of all time time a static IP address good upload speed and have to see up port forwarding on your router On Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is way off topic, but this thread touched on something I've been thinking about for a while. How would I go about being my own host? My sites are currently hosted with a group called A2 Hosting, but I've been wondering about hosting them myself. Cheers, Donna On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you
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Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
No, this list is not for selling your services as moderators have already previously pointed out. On 6/23/2015 12:05 AM, Daniel wrote: Hi Nancy, My name is Daniel. I run a web hosting service called Firestar-hosting.Com http://Firestar-osting.Com We’ve been around for 4 plus years, and specialize in what you are looking for. My team and I can assist you, feel free to give us a call. 786-571-4298; press option 1 for presales. I am the main person who runs Firestar-Hosting.com http://Firestar-Hosting.com so I will be the main one you will be dealing with, though I do have a team as well. You may email off-list to webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com Or call the above number, and select option 1 for Presales. If you wish to reach me at my extension directly, it is ext. 200. if I do not answer, please leave a voicemail and I will call you back within 24 hours. You may also submit a Presales ticket via email (free of charge), to presa...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:presa...@firestar-hosting.com With what you are looking for and someone will assist you. Have an awesome day. Best regards, Daniel Primary System Administrator and Founder www.firestar-hosting.com http://www.firestar-hosting.com Equality web hosting since November 2010 786-571-4298 ext. 200 webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This site looks about like it costed $10, too. It's almost like someone vommitted all over the homepage and links just splattered where ever they may. On 6/22/2015 8:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Have a look at my web site. If you'd like to build this kind of a site in under a day, for literally almost nothing, and when I say literally almost nothing, we're talking, 10 bucks tops, minus the cost for your domain, then get ahold of me. With your domain, you're probably gonna spend around $10 a month, and maybe a one time per year payment on top a that of $18. So, you're looking out the door, maybe about, just call it $30. I can teach you and no coding is necessary either. Here's my web site URL. have a look around, and tell me if this is along the lines of what you want. If it is, let's talk. clgillan...@gmail.com My web site is: http://www.clgproductions.net Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Learn to code. You should start with HTML. Google is your best friend, however I recommend searching for 'HTML the Missing Manual on Amazon Kindle. -Shaf On 6/22/2015 11:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKxDAAoJEAdP60+BYxejBK8H/39eunyYkNllfnwcnZ+52Yeg np7NxgHJvWSfieAhgMMQh9ecs56EOnk8Anx3TP/Q0VanUPyB+uw4CPP1rNePOLqp w7ujkU6gV78wu46MPjqCOKVoM+2ea40542hug6M8DcbY3v/Dcle/049CvMNGQO17 tB1ULPK+uz8McZ/NzHRFHNZwLV6ybD/cbuOhof7LNm8cmNOb7XsS+LJs948FGzaG TOe2qoWl3F2Takjg1ULOHTtSmUL4LLIEhG6rChiH9HbKdCm5pAgeAcliTa/qXVIZ KAbWRfkLZTEa2oT5NJ8nTrWAYDeLQqXjVP07HBJHggD0gPduB6OklEydn5fxLB4= =B/Ss -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
How is offerring to help considered as spamming? You care to answer that for me? I didn't think so! I rest my case. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Guess that's what you get for spending your time spamming mailing lists. On 6/23/2015 1:45 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This site looks about like it costed $10, too. It's almost like someone vommitted all over the homepage and links just splattered where ever they may. On 6/22/2015 8:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Have a look at my web site. If you'd like to build this kind of a site in under a day, for literally almost nothing, and when I say literally almost nothing, we're talking, 10 bucks tops, minus the cost for your domain, then get ahold of me. With your domain, you're probably gonna spend around $10 a month, and maybe a one time per year payment on top a that of $18. So, you're looking out the door, maybe about, just call it $30. I can teach you and no coding is necessary either. Here's my web site URL. have a look around, and tell me if this is along the lines of what you want. If it is, let's talk. clgillan...@gmail.com My web site is: http://www.clgproductions.net Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Learn to code. You should start with HTML. Google is your best friend, however I recommend searching for 'HTML the Missing Manual on Amazon Kindle. -Shaf On 6/22/2015 11:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKxDAAoJEAdP60+BYxejBK8H/39eunyYkNllfnwcnZ+52Yeg np7NxgHJvWSfieAhgMMQh9ecs56EOnk8Anx3TP/Q0VanUPyB+uw4CPP1rNePOLqp w7ujkU6gV78wu46MPjqCOKVoM+2ea40542hug6M8DcbY3v/Dcle/049CvMNGQO17 tB1ULPK+uz8McZ/NzHRFHNZwLV6ybD/cbuOhof7LNm8cmNOb7XsS+LJs948FGzaG TOe2qoWl3F2Takjg1ULOHTtSmUL4LLIEhG6rChiH9HbKdCm5pAgeAcliTa/qXVIZ KAbWRfkLZTEa2oT5NJ8nTrWAYDeLQqXjVP07HBJHggD0gPduB6OklEydn5fxLB4= =B/Ss -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Um, I'm not trying to be rude, but I was considerring possibly switching to you all, if you all could give me something cheaper than what I'm paying now, but when i called to speak to someone in presales, I tried about 4 or 5 times, and each time, your Asterisk PBX server is disconnecting the call after choosing option 1, stating my name, then being put in the hold queue trunk. Guess I won't be interested after all. Oh well. Chris. - Original Message - From: Daniel To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi Nancy, My name is Daniel. I run a web hosting service called Firestar-hosting.Com We’ve been around for 4 plus years, and specialize in what you are looking for. My team and I can assist you, feel free to give us a call. 786-571-4298; press option 1 for presales. I am the main person who runs Firestar-Hosting.com so I will be the main one you will be dealing with, though I do have a team as well. You may email off-list to webmas...@firestar-hosting.com Or call the above number, and select option 1 for Presales. If you wish to reach me at my extension directly, it is ext. 200. if I do not answer, please leave a voicemail and I will call you back within 24 hours. You may also submit a Presales ticket via email (free of charge), to presa...@firestar-hosting.com With what you are looking for and someone will assist you. Have an awesome day. Best regards, Daniel Primary System Administrator and Founder www.firestar-hosting.com Equality web hosting since November 2010 786-571-4298 ext. 200 webmas...@firestar-hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not in this to sell a service. I certainly would hope that submitting a ticket is free of charge, however. Regardless, So, you have a few choices. Firstly, in order to build a website you need to start with a domain name and web hosting. The domain name is what the web address is, so like nancy.com (probably stolen already), but it makes a great example. The web host is you paying a company for server space, which covers hardware, bandwidth (how much data you can transfer per month) and storage sspace. I run 3 different sites on Dreamhost for different organizations and I highly recommend it. Their address is: http://dreamhost.com You get web service for $7.95 a month if ai remember correctly. Not totally sure since I run my own server and don't handle the payment end for those organizations. As for building the site, you have a few options. You could use something like drupal, which is known as a content management system (CMS). I am bias as I work for Acquia who are a huge force behind making Drupal happen, but I've also tried other stuff and love it. Basically a content management system allows you to create a site and customize it the way you want. there are many many books on drupal 7, and if you're the type that likes to google and find information you'll be all the better. If you shouldn't like Drupal for some reason, your next option is Wordpress. it's not as clean in my opinion and it's really hard to make it not look like a blog, but people still like it. Your final option is to learn HTML. You can google for html tutorials (make sure you learn html5 as that's what is currently new and being used, no sense in learning old technology). After you learn that, you'll probably want to learn CSS, which is used to make your site look pretty. Depending on how in-depth you want to go, you could just use something like bootstrap (just google bootstrap css) which has already been built by people with eyeballs and tested on a ton of different browsers. It really depends on what you want to do with your site to how you actually build it. If you have any more questions, feel free to give me a yell--I don't know if I'm supposed to be talking about web design on this list as it's mostly for mac accessibility stuff. My email is ty...@tysdomain.com. Thanks and good luck! On 6/22/2015 7:05 PM, Daniel wrote: Hi Nancy, My name is Daniel. I run a web hosting service called Firestar-hosting.Com http://Firestar-osting.Com We’ve been around for 4 plus years, and specialize in what you are looking for. My team and I can assist you, feel free to give us a call. 786-571-4298; press option 1 for presales. I am the main person who runs Firestar-Hosting.com http://Firestar-Hosting.com so I will be the main one you will be dealing with, though I do have a team as well. You may email off-list to webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com Or call the above number, and select option 1 for Presales. If you wish to reach me at my extension directly, it is ext. 200. if I do not answer, please leave a voicemail and I will call you back within 24 hours. You may also submit a Presales ticket via email (free of charge), to presa...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:presa...@firestar-hosting.com With what you are looking for and someone will assist you. Have an awesome day. Best regards, Daniel Primary System Administrator and Founder www.firestar-hosting.com http://www.firestar-hosting.com Equality web hosting since November 2010 786-571-4298 ext. 200 webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKydAAoJEAdP60+BYxejx/wH/083XSFsni7q0rFWsK2LoUtY ZXcClZ2BiE8Ga6UcVLNFHsw04c4U26qgpiIyVvzA6ql4h6i0j6StikG4lihH9nbm vOkAW4xu5dwpDFEkoQxXOfLZeV6614GmRQGyQuUiPZBLuwURKchLw8Nje5ejuXq2 0LgGVFkuuoMy8Eo+V8NgJtoRt5iifpH+8K2yVsP0Qia1AvrgvpArtMBFPjK+U78h i9HAAFOwLQvqZOV3jQwXqAv4VkjmkXGPerctmgeCi1uGM9HhfrHnXqXnu4GX1YKL ZrljqA54jVmnQjRE8WTk9j566s6jtkk+tdusZ4TzGXLgtTXPdTlW/mQ9REceCbU= =sbXP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
You think you can do better? I challenge you! Show me your web site, mo fo, since you think you're so perfect! C'mon! What's the URL, I'm waiting, and dont have all night. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:45 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This site looks about like it costed $10, too. It's almost like someone vommitted all over the homepage and links just splattered where ever they may. On 6/22/2015 8:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Have a look at my web site. If you'd like to build this kind of a site in under a day, for literally almost nothing, and when I say literally almost nothing, we're talking, 10 bucks tops, minus the cost for your domain, then get ahold of me. With your domain, you're probably gonna spend around $10 a month, and maybe a one time per year payment on top a that of $18. So, you're looking out the door, maybe about, just call it $30. I can teach you and no coding is necessary either. Here's my web site URL. have a look around, and tell me if this is along the lines of what you want. If it is, let's talk. clgillan...@gmail.com My web site is: http://www.clgproductions.net Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Learn to code. You should start with HTML. Google is your best friend, however I recommend searching for 'HTML the Missing Manual on Amazon Kindle. -Shaf On 6/22/2015 11:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKxDAAoJEAdP60+BYxejBK8H/39eunyYkNllfnwcnZ+52Yeg np7NxgHJvWSfieAhgMMQh9ecs56EOnk8Anx3TP/Q0VanUPyB+uw4CPP1rNePOLqp w7ujkU6gV78wu46MPjqCOKVoM+2ea40542hug6M8DcbY3v/Dcle/049CvMNGQO17 tB1ULPK+uz8McZ/NzHRFHNZwLV6ybD/cbuOhof7LNm8cmNOb7XsS+LJs948FGzaG TOe2qoWl3F2Takjg1ULOHTtSmUL4LLIEhG6rChiH9HbKdCm5pAgeAcliTa/qXVIZ KAbWRfkLZTEa2oT5NJ8nTrWAYDeLQqXjVP07HBJHggD0gPduB6OklEydn5fxLB4= =B/Ss -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Why the duplicate message to the list? One was enough. Chris. - Original Message - From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not in this to sell a service. I certainly would hope that submitting a ticket is free of charge, however. Regardless, So, you have a few choices. Firstly, in order to build a website you need to start with a domain name and web hosting. The domain name is what the web address is, so like nancy.com (probably stolen already), but it makes a great example. The web host is you paying a company for server space, which covers hardware, bandwidth (how much data you can transfer per month) and storage sspace. I run 3 different sites on Dreamhost for different organizations and I highly recommend it. Their address is: http://dreamhost.com You get web service for $7.95 a month if ai remember correctly. Not totally sure since I run my own server and don't handle the payment end for those organizations. As for building the site, you have a few options. You could use something like drupal, which is known as a content management system (CMS). I am bias as I work for Acquia who are a huge force behind making Drupal happen, but I've also tried other stuff and love it. Basically a content management system allows you to create a site and customize it the way you want. there are many many books on drupal 7, and if you're the type that likes to google and find information you'll be all the better. If you shouldn't like Drupal for some reason, your next option is Wordpress. it's not as clean in my opinion and it's really hard to make it not look like a blog, but people still like it. Your final option is to learn HTML. You can google for html tutorials (make sure you learn html5 as that's what is currently new and being used, no sense in learning old technology). After you learn that, you'll probably want to learn CSS, which is used to make your site look pretty. Depending on how in-depth you want to go, you could just use something like bootstrap (just google bootstrap css) which has already been built by people with eyeballs and tested on a ton of different browsers. It really depends on what you want to do with your site to how you actually build it. If you have any more questions, feel free to give me a yell--I don't know if I'm supposed to be talking about web design on this list as it's mostly for mac accessibility stuff. My email is ty...@tysdomain.com. Thanks and good luck! On 6/22/2015 7:05 PM, Daniel wrote: Hi Nancy, My name is Daniel. I run a web hosting service called Firestar-hosting.Com http://Firestar-osting.Com We’ve been around for 4 plus years, and specialize in what you are looking for. My team and I can assist you, feel free to give us a call. 786-571-4298; press option 1 for presales. I am the main person who runs Firestar-Hosting.com http://Firestar-Hosting.com so I will be the main one you will be dealing with, though I do have a team as well. You may email off-list to webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com Or call the above number, and select option 1 for Presales. If you wish to reach me at my extension directly, it is ext. 200. if I do not answer, please leave a voicemail and I will call you back within 24 hours. You may also submit a Presales ticket via email (free of charge), to presa...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:presa...@firestar-hosting.com With what you are looking for and someone will assist you. Have an awesome day. Best regards, Daniel Primary System Administrator and Founder www.firestar-hosting.com http://www.firestar-hosting.com Equality web hosting since November 2010 786-571-4298 ext. 200 webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKydAAoJEAdP60+BYxejx/wH/083XSFsni7q0rFWsK2LoUtY ZXcClZ2BiE8Ga6UcVLNFHsw04c4U26qgpiIyVvzA6ql4h6i0j6StikG4lihH9nbm vOkAW4xu5dwpDFEkoQxXOfLZeV6614GmRQGyQuUiPZBLuwURKchLw8Nje5ejuXq2 0LgGVFkuuoMy8Eo+V8NgJtoRt5iifpH+8K2yVsP0Qia1AvrgvpArtMBFPjK+U78h i9HAAFOwLQvqZOV3jQwXqAv4VkjmkXGPerctmgeCi1uGM9HhfrHnXqXnu4GX1YKL ZrljqA54jVmnQjRE8WTk9j566s6jtkk+tdusZ4TzGXLgtTXPdTlW/mQ9REceCbU= =sbXP -END PGP
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Guess that's what you get for spending your time spamming mailing lists. On 6/23/2015 1:45 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This site looks about like it costed $10, too. It's almost like someone vommitted all over the homepage and links just splattered where ever they may. On 6/22/2015 8:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Have a look at my web site. If you'd like to build this kind of a site in under a day, for literally almost nothing, and when I say literally almost nothing, we're talking, 10 bucks tops, minus the cost for your domain, then get ahold of me. With your domain, you're probably gonna spend around $10 a month, and maybe a one time per year payment on top a that of $18. So, you're looking out the door, maybe about, just call it $30. I can teach you and no coding is necessary either. Here's my web site URL. have a look around, and tell me if this is along the lines of what you want. If it is, let's talk. clgillan...@gmail.com My web site is: http://www.clgproductions.net Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Learn to code. You should start with HTML. Google is your best friend, however I recommend searching for 'HTML the Missing Manual on Amazon Kindle. -Shaf On 6/22/2015 11:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKxDAAoJEAdP60+BYxejBK8H/39eunyYkNllfnwcnZ+52Yeg np7NxgHJvWSfieAhgMMQh9ecs56EOnk8Anx3TP/Q0VanUPyB+uw4CPP1rNePOLqp w7ujkU6gV78wu46MPjqCOKVoM+2ea40542hug6M8DcbY3v/Dcle/049CvMNGQO17 tB1ULPK+uz8McZ/NzHRFHNZwLV6ybD/cbuOhof7LNm8cmNOb7XsS+LJs948FGzaG TOe2qoWl3F2Takjg1ULOHTtSmUL4LLIEhG6rChiH9HbKdCm5pAgeAcliTa/qXVIZ KAbWRfkLZTEa2oT5NJ8nTrWAYDeLQqXjVP07HBJHggD0gPduB6OklEydn5fxLB4= =B/Ss -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Hi Nancy, First, you need two things: A domain, and a host. You can be your own host if you like, but first time developers usually prefer to outsource hosting. I am using ultra host. http://www.ultra-host.us http://www.ultra-host.us/ They have packages starting at $30 per year and market value domains, as well as excellent email and phone tech support. I have been with them since 1999. The company has changed hands, but my opinion of the way things are run has never changed. There are a lot of packages you can get which claim that you can build a website with no knowledge of code. These include wordpress, drupal, php wcms, and many others. In all cases these are handy tools and you should probably pick one that best meets your needs; however, all claims that you don't need to know code in order to use them are completely false. I suggest you not be intimidated by learning some html markup and some of the basics of whatever language your content management system is running, as well as some css. The most widely used language for content management systems is php. I am currently working on two websites. http://www.inclusiveandroid.com http://www.inclusiveandroid.com/ This is done in Drupal and most of the coding is over my head. Fortunately there are four other people working on this. Two of them are experienced php and drupal developers and all I have to do most of the time is administer user accounts, moderate content, act as staff writer and handle promotion. So, I'm not worthless in this particular project, but I don't do very much actual site design. Then there is: http://www.nfbnevada.org http://www.nfbnevada.org/ This is done in pmwiki, and comes closest to keeping it's promise of no coding necessary. This is an extremely simple interface. To install, unzip and upload to your web server. To add or remove options, add or uncomment lines in a text file, all of which are documented in plain english. The advantages of this system are simplicity, configurability and great documentation. The disadvantages are that in order to go past a certain point, you need to install and configure the security and permissions from scratch, and Many of the extensions are out of date. A derivitive of pmwiki called boltwire: http://www.boltwire.com http://www.boltwire.com/ also looks promising. I would be happy to discuss your options further off list if you would like to email me and let me know what kind of conten you want to have for your site and how you want it to be laid out. Best, Erik Burggraaf June is amazon gift card mania month at inclusive android. For details on how to enter for your chance to win a $25 gift card, please visit: http://www.inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/play-amazon-giftcard-mania-sweepstakes On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Building a website, what's the best way?
Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Learn to code. You should start with HTML. Google is your best friend, however I recommend searching for 'HTML the Missing Manual on Amazon Kindle. -Shaf On 6/22/2015 11:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Have a look at my web site. If you'd like to build this kind of a site in under a day, for literally almost nothing, and when I say literally almost nothing, we're talking, 10 bucks tops, minus the cost for your domain, then get ahold of me. With your domain, you're probably gonna spend around $10 a month, and maybe a one time per year payment on top a that of $18. So, you're looking out the door, maybe about, just call it $30. I can teach you and no coding is necessary either. Here's my web site URL. have a look around, and tell me if this is along the lines of what you want. If it is, let's talk. clgillan...@gmail.com My web site is: http://www.clgproductions.net Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Learn to code. You should start with HTML. Google is your best friend, however I recommend searching for 'HTML the Missing Manual on Amazon Kindle. -Shaf On 6/22/2015 11:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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BTW, I'm not trying to sell anything, realize that. I'm very clearly saying I will help this lady free of charge as far as learning how to actually design the web site. Besides, the number that Daniel gave doesn't work anyway. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? No, this list is not for selling your services as moderators have already previously pointed out. On 6/23/2015 12:05 AM, Daniel wrote: Hi Nancy, My name is Daniel. I run a web hosting service called Firestar-hosting.Com We’ve been around for 4 plus years, and specialize in what you are looking for. My team and I can assist you, feel free to give us a call. 786-571-4298; press option 1 for presales. I am the main person who runs Firestar-Hosting.com so I will be the main one you will be dealing with, though I do have a team as well. You may email off-list to webmas...@firestar-hosting.com Or call the above number, and select option 1 for Presales. If you wish to reach me at my extension directly, it is ext. 200. if I do not answer, please leave a voicemail and I will call you back within 24 hours. You may also submit a Presales ticket via email (free of charge), to presa...@firestar-hosting.com With what you are looking for and someone will assist you. Have an awesome day. Best regards, Daniel Primary System Administrator and Founder www.firestar-hosting.com Equality web hosting since November 2010 786-571-4298 ext. 200 webmas...@firestar-hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
Let me clarify something. I never! ever ever ever ever ever! said that learning some basic coding wouldn't be a plus. I simply said what I said. It's not necessary for publishing a web site that is functionable. Sorry if you misunderstood... Rico. Oh, wait... Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi Nancy, First, you need two things: A domain, and a host. You can be your own host if you like, but first time developers usually prefer to outsource hosting. I am using ultra host. http://www.ultra-host.us They have packages starting at $30 per year and market value domains, as well as excellent email and phone tech support. I have been with them since 1999. The company has changed hands, but my opinion of the way things are run has never changed. There are a lot of packages you can get which claim that you can build a website with no knowledge of code. These include wordpress, drupal, php wcms, and many others. In all cases these are handy tools and you should probably pick one that best meets your needs; however, all claims that you don't need to know code in order to use them are completely false. I suggest you not be intimidated by learning some html markup and some of the basics of whatever language your content management system is running, as well as some css. The most widely used language for content management systems is php. I am currently working on two websites. http://www.inclusiveandroid.com This is done in Drupal and most of the coding is over my head. Fortunately there are four other people working on this. Two of them are experienced php and drupal developers and all I have to do most of the time is administer user accounts, moderate content, act as staff writer and handle promotion. So, I'm not worthless in this particular project, but I don't do very much actual site design. Then there is: http://www.nfbnevada.org This is done in pmwiki, and comes closest to keeping it's promise of no coding necessary. This is an extremely simple interface. To install, unzip and upload to your web server. To add or remove options, add or uncomment lines in a text file, all of which are documented in plain english. The advantages of this system are simplicity, configurability and great documentation. The disadvantages are that in order to go past a certain point, you need to install and configure the security and permissions from scratch, and Many of the extensions are out of date. A derivitive of pmwiki called boltwire: http://www.boltwire.com also looks promising. I would be happy to discuss your options further off list if you would like to email me and let me know what kind of conten you want to have for your site and how you want it to be laid out. Best, Erik Burggraaf June is amazon gift card mania month at inclusive android. For details on how to enter for your chance to win a $25 gift card, please visit: http://www.inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/play-amazon-giftcard-mania-sweepstakes On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Re: Building a website, what's the best way?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not in this to sell a service. I certainly would hope that submitting a ticket is free of charge, however. Regardless, So, you have a few choices. Firstly, in order to build a website you need to start with a domain name and web hosting. The domain name is what the web address is, so like nancy.com (probably stolen already), but it makes a great example. The web host is you paying a company for server space, which covers hardware, bandwidth (how much data you can transfer per month) and storage sspace. I run 3 different sites on Dreamhost for different organizations and I highly recommend it. Their address is: http://dreamhost.com You get web service for $7.95 a month if ai remember correctly. Not totally sure since I run my own server and don't handle the payment end for those organizations. As for building the site, you have a few options. You could use something like drupal, which is known as a content management system (CMS). I am bias as I work for Acquia who are a huge force behind making Drupal happen, but I've also tried other stuff and love it. Basically a content management system allows you to create a site and customize it the way you want. there are many many books on drupal 7, and if you're the type that likes to google and find information you'll be all the better. If you shouldn't like Drupal for some reason, your next option is Wordpress. it's not as clean in my opinion and it's really hard to make it not look like a blog, but people still like it. Your final option is to learn HTML. You can google for html tutorials (make sure you learn html5 as that's what is currently new and being used, no sense in learning old technology). After you learn that, you'll probably want to learn CSS, which is used to make your site look pretty. Depending on how in-depth you want to go, you could just use something like bootstrap (just google bootstrap css) which has already been built by people with eyeballs and tested on a ton of different browsers. It really depends on what you want to do with your site to how you actually build it. If you have any more questions, feel free to give me a yell--I don't know if I'm supposed to be talking about web design on this list as it's mostly for mac accessibility stuff. My email is ty...@tysdomain.com. Thanks and good luck! On 6/22/2015 7:05 PM, Daniel wrote: Hi Nancy, My name is Daniel. I run a web hosting service called Firestar-hosting.Com http://Firestar-osting.Com We’ve been around for 4 plus years, and specialize in what you are looking for. My team and I can assist you, feel free to give us a call. 786-571-4298; press option 1 for presales. I am the main person who runs Firestar-Hosting.com http://Firestar-Hosting.com so I will be the main one you will be dealing with, though I do have a team as well. You may email off-list to webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com Or call the above number, and select option 1 for Presales. If you wish to reach me at my extension directly, it is ext. 200. if I do not answer, please leave a voicemail and I will call you back within 24 hours. You may also submit a Presales ticket via email (free of charge), to presa...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:presa...@firestar-hosting.com With what you are looking for and someone will assist you. Have an awesome day. Best regards, Daniel Primary System Administrator and Founder www.firestar-hosting.com http://www.firestar-hosting.com Equality web hosting since November 2010 786-571-4298 ext. 200 webmas...@firestar-hosting.com mailto:webmas...@firestar-hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. - -- Take care, Ty twitter: @sorressean web:http://tysdomain.com pubkey: http://tysdomain.com/files/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJViKQqAAoJEAdP60+BYxejdQ0H/3W++N0JHL8ucNMBW4h5AnU1 2ppC+JhrGlEknhe9FmZn5iaOKF30zLGpE2TG+kd09PoBQ//g11m+Hkf2IUI3/fmn L0nvA5KwETtrKci+5sDsTWTbtW2dINb8+7kqeKop/I46WGt/swq3bW8htzCJzSca AHMzI9v6SK6BGF9pZ4PHc2TRrZWSeg7cLnPyZPb9wlWtP+MFS0rcjyiGl4b32rRy pMTEreME+mbl29ewjqisj/7AlX8RpUMXUuNNAnJuVLKjym98LCh3PtCnbPj1iLM8 MgGsyLfj4ZLfD82wwbOuyoRHrT65S5O6LLHSBkO3pIKA104oMM1+3o1RhPLFq/4= =XSLL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
RE: Building a website, what's the best way?
Hello Tyler and thank you for your kind words. You may use any part of my post as you wish. Again, thank you. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Building a website, what's the best way? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello: I love the outline, thanks a lot for providing that here. You're right in that a lot of these questions should be answered to get a full picture of the site. It's really hard to answer the how do I build a site question, so I've always tried to give a general overview. Would you mind much if I stole the list? I'd like to write up an article because I see this question asked so many times and I always end up sitting down to write out a long email. I'm going to stand with you on not letting companies register your domain. I highly recommend namecheap (It's independant since I'm not currently with a hosting company--I run my own dedicated server). The web interface is accessible and support is great. I was a little frustrated with them for something that happened with ICan, but they gave me discounts and did their best to make things better. On 6/22/2015 10:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Nancy, First, bravo to you for considering creating your own website. Second, In my opinion, your question demands a comprehensive answer that will depend upon several factors that I don't believe can be adequately addressed on a support mailing list such as this one. So, I suggest that you take your time and research this project thoroughly before committing to any one path. While Google is a marvelous resource for collecting facts, I think that the best approach, all things being equal, is to find someone you trust, preferably with an up-and-running website or BLOG, and discuss your ultimate goal with that person or persons. The person you select, with which to consult, should ask you a great many questions in order to provide the best solution. In my opinion, she/he should ask questions such as: 1. What is the genral purpose of the site? 2. Do you want to have complete control of the site? or will you be sharing access with someone. 3. Are you willing to have an ad-sponsored site? 4. Do you personally want to maintain the site or do you want someone else to maintain it on your behalf? 5. Will you be uploading static or dynamic content to the site? 6. Approximately how often do you think you will be updating the site's content? 7. Are you interested in having an ongoing online conversation with the visitors to your site? 8. Will you be selling or receiving payment for items or services on your site? 9. What is your level of comfort when dealing with online websites and/or social media? 10. What kind of budget, if any, do you have? 11. Do you have any programming experience? Nancy, just so you know, one does not need to have any programming experience in order to create or maintain a successful site, these days, however, your answer will help focus more accurately on the proper solution for your purpose. 12. How much time do you have to dedicate to the maintenance of the site? 13. Do you want email addresses to be associated with your site via domain name? For example, if your website/BLOG is called Widgets.com, would you want an email address such as na...@widgets.com? 14. What is your preferred operating system? 15. With regard to accessing the web, do you use a screen reader, screen magnifier, or both? Your consultant will also take the time to explain the difference between hosted and unhosted services. Beware of anyone who tries to immediately sell you anything as opposed to taking the time to explain why a particular solution is best for you. All things being equal, your consultant will offer at least two paths to achieving your goal. One of these paths should be a do-it-yourself solution, should you feel up to it. The only domain registrar I trust is Network Solutions. Whatever happens, do not allow anyone but you to register your domain name. Some web hosting solutions offer to include such registration in your various packages but I strongly recommend against this. Nancy, please keep in mind that this is just my opinion as to how best to proceed. Again, bravo on your endeavor and I look forward to visiting your new site. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Badger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I
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I agree 100%, and this is why I wanted to see if my site was along the lines of what she was looking for something similar to. If not, then these were many of the exact same questions that I was going to ask her. and to the idiots on this list who've written me off list saying I'm trying to scam her, You let me tell you all something! It's none of your business, and for two, I was not going to sell her anything. I'm not offerring her web hosting or anything. I just want to talk to her and see if I can be any help based on the fact that I have several years of experience with web design. I've done the whole B bockle with coding and, I've also done it with wysiwyg type solutions. Either way, I don't understand why you all think I'm trying to cheat her. I'm offerring help, no strings attached. I'm sorry if that is too much to ask. Chris. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:01 PM Subject: RE: Building a website, what's the best way? Hello Nancy, First, bravo to you for considering creating your own website. Second, In my opinion, your question demands a comprehensive answer that will depend upon several factors that I don't believe can be adequately addressed on a support mailing list such as this one. So, I suggest that you take your time and research this project thoroughly before committing to any one path. While Google is a marvelous resource for collecting facts, I think that the best approach, all things being equal, is to find someone you trust, preferably with an up-and-running website or BLOG, and discuss your ultimate goal with that person or persons. The person you select, with which to consult, should ask you a great many questions in order to provide the best solution. In my opinion, she/he should ask questions such as: 1. What is the genral purpose of the site? 2. Do you want to have complete control of the site? or will you be sharing access with someone. 3. Are you willing to have an ad-sponsored site? 4. Do you personally want to maintain the site or do you want someone else to maintain it on your behalf? 5. Will you be uploading static or dynamic content to the site? 6. Approximately how often do you think you will be updating the site's content? 7. Are you interested in having an ongoing online conversation with the visitors to your site? 8. Will you be selling or receiving payment for items or services on your site? 9. What is your level of comfort when dealing with online websites and/or social media? 10. What kind of budget, if any, do you have? 11. Do you have any programming experience? Nancy, just so you know, one does not need to have any programming experience in order to create or maintain a successful site, these days, however, your answer will help focus more accurately on the proper solution for your purpose. 12. How much time do you have to dedicate to the maintenance of the site? 13. Do you want email addresses to be associated with your site via domain name? For example, if your website/BLOG is called Widgets.com, would you want an email address such as na...@widgets.com? 14. What is your preferred operating system? 15. With regard to accessing the web, do you use a screen reader, screen magnifier, or both? Your consultant will also take the time to explain the difference between hosted and unhosted services. Beware of anyone who tries to immediately sell you anything as opposed to taking the time to explain why a particular solution is best for you. All things being equal, your consultant will offer at least two paths to achieving your goal. One of these paths should be a do-it-yourself solution, should you feel up to it. The only domain registrar I trust is Network Solutions. Whatever happens, do not allow anyone but you to register your domain name. Some web hosting solutions offer to include such registration in your various packages but I strongly recommend against this. Nancy, please keep in mind that this is just my opinion as to how best to proceed. Again, bravo on your endeavor and I look forward to visiting your new site. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Badger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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Hi Nancy, CAVI teaches a course on building a web site. The cost is $150. Their web site is http://http://wiki.cucat.org. HTH Marshall On Jun 22, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Building a website, what's the best way?
Hello Nancy, First, bravo to you for considering creating your own website. Second, In my opinion, your question demands a comprehensive answer that will depend upon several factors that I don't believe can be adequately addressed on a support mailing list such as this one. So, I suggest that you take your time and research this project thoroughly before committing to any one path. While Google is a marvelous resource for collecting facts, I think that the best approach, all things being equal, is to find someone you trust, preferably with an up-and-running website or BLOG, and discuss your ultimate goal with that person or persons. The person you select, with which to consult, should ask you a great many questions in order to provide the best solution. In my opinion, she/he should ask questions such as: 1. What is the genral purpose of the site? 2. Do you want to have complete control of the site? or will you be sharing access with someone. 3. Are you willing to have an ad-sponsored site? 4. Do you personally want to maintain the site or do you want someone else to maintain it on your behalf? 5. Will you be uploading static or dynamic content to the site? 6. Approximately how often do you think you will be updating the site's content? 7. Are you interested in having an ongoing online conversation with the visitors to your site? 8. Will you be selling or receiving payment for items or services on your site? 9. What is your level of comfort when dealing with online websites and/or social media? 10. What kind of budget, if any, do you have? 11. Do you have any programming experience? Nancy, just so you know, one does not need to have any programming experience in order to create or maintain a successful site, these days, however, your answer will help focus more accurately on the proper solution for your purpose. 12. How much time do you have to dedicate to the maintenance of the site? 13. Do you want email addresses to be associated with your site via domain name? For example, if your website/BLOG is called Widgets.com, would you want an email address such as na...@widgets.com? 14. What is your preferred operating system? 15. With regard to accessing the web, do you use a screen reader, screen magnifier, or both? Your consultant will also take the time to explain the difference between hosted and unhosted services. Beware of anyone who tries to immediately sell you anything as opposed to taking the time to explain why a particular solution is best for you. All things being equal, your consultant will offer at least two paths to achieving your goal. One of these paths should be a do-it-yourself solution, should you feel up to it. The only domain registrar I trust is Network Solutions. Whatever happens, do not allow anyone but you to register your domain name. Some web hosting solutions offer to include such registration in your various packages but I strongly recommend against this. Nancy, please keep in mind that this is just my opinion as to how best to proceed. Again, bravo on your endeavor and I look forward to visiting your new site. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Badger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello: I love the outline, thanks a lot for providing that here. You're right in that a lot of these questions should be answered to get a full picture of the site. It's really hard to answer the how do I build a site question, so I've always tried to give a general overview. Would you mind much if I stole the list? I'd like to write up an article because I see this question asked so many times and I always end up sitting down to write out a long email. I'm going to stand with you on not letting companies register your domain. I highly recommend namecheap (It's independant since I'm not currently with a hosting company--I run my own dedicated server). The web interface is accessible and support is great. I was a little frustrated with them for something that happened with ICan, but they gave me discounts and did their best to make things better. On 6/22/2015 10:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Nancy, First, bravo to you for considering creating your own website. Second, In my opinion, your question demands a comprehensive answer that will depend upon several factors that I don't believe can be adequately addressed on a support mailing list such as this one. So, I suggest that you take your time and research this project thoroughly before committing to any one path. While Google is a marvelous resource for collecting facts, I think that the best approach, all things being equal, is to find someone you trust, preferably with an up-and-running website or BLOG, and discuss your ultimate goal with that person or persons. The person you select, with which to consult, should ask you a great many questions in order to provide the best solution. In my opinion, she/he should ask questions such as: 1. What is the genral purpose of the site? 2. Do you want to have complete control of the site? or will you be sharing access with someone. 3. Are you willing to have an ad-sponsored site? 4. Do you personally want to maintain the site or do you want someone else to maintain it on your behalf? 5. Will you be uploading static or dynamic content to the site? 6. Approximately how often do you think you will be updating the site's content? 7. Are you interested in having an ongoing online conversation with the visitors to your site? 8. Will you be selling or receiving payment for items or services on your site? 9. What is your level of comfort when dealing with online websites and/or social media? 10. What kind of budget, if any, do you have? 11. Do you have any programming experience? Nancy, just so you know, one does not need to have any programming experience in order to create or maintain a successful site, these days, however, your answer will help focus more accurately on the proper solution for your purpose. 12. How much time do you have to dedicate to the maintenance of the site? 13. Do you want email addresses to be associated with your site via domain name? For example, if your website/BLOG is called Widgets.com, would you want an email address such as na...@widgets.com? 14. What is your preferred operating system? 15. With regard to accessing the web, do you use a screen reader, screen magnifier, or both? Your consultant will also take the time to explain the difference between hosted and unhosted services. Beware of anyone who tries to immediately sell you anything as opposed to taking the time to explain why a particular solution is best for you. All things being equal, your consultant will offer at least two paths to achieving your goal. One of these paths should be a do-it-yourself solution, should you feel up to it. The only domain registrar I trust is Network Solutions. Whatever happens, do not allow anyone but you to register your domain name. Some web hosting solutions offer to include such registration in your various packages but I strongly recommend against this. Nancy, please keep in mind that this is just my opinion as to how best to proceed. Again, bravo on your endeavor and I look forward to visiting your new site. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Badger Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Building a website, what's the best way? Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group
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First you can play with HTML without buying anything. You can put text edit in plain text mode and start writing your first html file. Then load that in Safari to check your work. You'll just flip back and forth adding stuff and reviewing. Once you've got the hang of HTML then I'd start thinking about hosting and setting up a domain name. So in text edit, before you create a new file go to preferences and set the format radio button to Plain text. Name your file something ending in either .htm or .html such as MyFirstWebPage.html and then you can start putting html in there. Once you have saved that file somewhere you can open MyFirstWebPage.html in Safari to review the results. There are piles of free tutorials out there so just google around. Web pages are generally three general buckets. HTML is the content with markup sprinkled around to tell what the content is such as a paragraph, list or table. CSS is Cascading Style Sheets where you can make, for example, all the headings a certain font or add margin to paragraphs. The last most complex bit is javascript which is code that can manipulate the content or the styles, usually in reaction to user events such as mouse clicks or keystrokes. CB On 6/22/15 6:29 PM, Nancy Badger wrote: Hi, I am thinking of building a very simple website. I have never done this before. I have no idea how or where to start. I know I need to get a domain name. How do I do this? Is there an accessible program to use one building a website are there tutorials? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
