Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Sure, Whatever would work best for you. Either which way, there are ways to restore your system without a DVD. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 20, 2011, at 1:43 AM, brandt wrote: I don't know about most, my choice would be an external bootable disk made with Carbin copy Cloner or Super Duper. (spelling) At least, that follows the sudgestion made by some that the cd/DVD rom is going the way of the dodo. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, You can do what many do now. Put in your snow leopard dvd and to a restore from a time machine back up. I assume most have a time machine back up? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 18, 2011, at 4:52 AM, brandt wrote: Hi Ricardo, If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard mac doesn't crash ... bla bla blah and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well, You can do what many do now. Put in your snow leopard dvd and to a restore from a time machine back up. I assume most have a time machine back up? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 18, 2011, at 4:52 AM, brandt wrote: Hi Ricardo, If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard mac doesn't crash ... bla bla blah and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I don't know about most, my choice would be an external bootable disk made with Carbin copy Cloner or Super Duper. (spelling) At least, that follows the sudgestion made by some that the cd/DVD rom is going the way of the dodo. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, You can do what many do now. Put in your snow leopard dvd and to a restore from a time machine back up. I assume most have a time machine back up? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 18, 2011, at 4:52 AM, brandt wrote: Hi Ricardo, If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard mac doesn't crash ... bla bla blah and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hi Ricardo, If as you say, the new OS gets distributed via the app store, what do you do if your machine crash? And, yes, I've heard mac doesn't crash ... bla bla blah and I don't believe in the fairy tail of computers that doesn't crash. Discard the thumb drive idea for now, say, I buy a macbook pro, install lion via the app store and for whatever reason, think up your own, it crashes dead on me 2 months later. I can't boot in to the OS, and I live in South Africa (data capping is generally applied) thus, installing Snow Leopard and downloading Lion again would be expensive in the extreme. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, The way Apple seems to be going I would think it would be available in the Mac app store. They already have iLife and iWorks up there so, it wouldn't be much of a stretch. At least in the U.S. and U.K. where broad band isn't as much of a concern. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Just for accuracy. You do get what is called 4G in other countries in South Africa., although we don't call it that . Three service providers have 42 megabit services. The vodacom network has very good coverage. Only problem here is that it is still very expensive. Chris Moore wrote: Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
This might be the case, but in the places I've been in the last 4 months, Durban, Johannesburg and Pretoria, and out here in my home town, I haven't seen any sign of better mobile data service than dialup. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Max low.mar...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Just for accuracy. You do get what is called 4G in other countries in South Africa., although we don't call it that . Three service providers have 42 megabit services. The vodacom network has very good coverage. Only problem here is that it is still very expensive. Chris Moore wrote: Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
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I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people
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True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take
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No, maybe you don't stick a disc in an iPhone, but neither do you stick a thumb drive in your iPhone. You can't back up your phone without using a computer, thus your comparison is irelivant. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
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The reason why you can't stick a thumb drive in your iPhone is because the card slot would take up valuable space, and of course if you could supply your own memory, then you may not buy the more expensive higher memory models of phone or be in a hurry to upgrade your phone. And yes you have to currently use your computer to pass data to your phone, but expect that to change with iOS 5 and the new Apple cloud services. On 17 May 2011, at 12:50, brandt wrote: No, maybe you don't stick a disc in an iPhone, but neither do you stick a thumb drive in your iPhone. You can't back up your phone without using a computer, thus your comparison is irelivant. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected
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Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply
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Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage
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Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way
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Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies
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I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive
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Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern
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Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much
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Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
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Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them
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Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made
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Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I
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That price is off set by the price of the optical drives installed in every computer, not the price of the DVD the os would be on. And the purchase and installation of a optical drive is more than a thumb drive. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 17, 2011, at 7:48 AM, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical
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Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? grin Isaac - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between
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So it is only a matter of time before we switch to digital distribution. This reality has become more possible with the introduction of the Mac App Store too. It is not uncommon for Apple to be bold and make the first step to ditch legacy peripherals. For example when they introduced the iMac, they also decided to only use USB and stopped supporting older serial and parallel interfaces for printers and mice etc. It took the PC world a few years to follow. Apple were the first to drop the floppy drive and go CD-R only. i think they were the first to provide combo super drives too. They are the first to provide thunderbolt before anyone else and it will be interesting to see where this takes us as the data speeds are lightening fast. Apple were the main adopters of Firewire too, the PC community pretty much ignored this apart from Sony who called it iLink. The future really is no moving parts and fast transfer feeds between appliances and direct links to the cloud without the need to connect to other devices first. On 17 May 2011, at 16:12, Kimberly thurman wrote: Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from
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Oh I loved 8 track! and I still miss record scratching on my Technics. I best shut up, as I will have the MOD telling me off again :) On 17 May 2011, at 16:28, Isaac Obie wrote: Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? grin Isaac - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net
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chat forum anyone? On May 17, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? grin Isaac - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution
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Greetings, Sadly it seems that a reminder is in order that the number of subscribers and volume of list traffic is not conducive to off topic chat group messages. The discussion of recordings in computer readable format and/or distribution of media playable on the MacOS and IOS platforms are completely on topic and welcome, hence I am not requesting closure of the thread in its entirety. I do ask, however that as a group we please avoid ot chatty posts that add nothing substantive to the discussion of Apple products such as the following two examples. Of course this is applicable to all threads and not this one specifically. Also, a statement that you are aware that your post is inappropriate does not render it acceptable. On the contrary such disclaimers appear to be a declaration of a total lack of intent to work within the guidelines. Best regards, Geoff On May 17, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? grin Isaac - On May 17, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Oh I loved 8 track! and I still miss record scratching on my Technics. I best shut up, as I will have the MOD telling me off again :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Well, it would be even cheaper to just down load everything from the internet. I have 2000 movies, and 15 thousand songs, all on a nas server connected to my router, and I can stream it all to my TV, or PC. So yes I think physical CD's and DVD's are on their way out. As for my movies, I get equal quality to a Blu-ray disc, and adding more to my library each day. Wish red box would just let us stream to our TV's like block buster and Netflix and amazon on demand does. Now that would be perfect! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brandt Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype
RE: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Most cars are being made with iPod connections, and you can buy little lcd screen's to put on the back of seats when you travel. Who wants to limit themselves to just six discs, when you can have your whole library with you? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brandt Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:01 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
So I got a question. Do you all think that the new Mac OS will still be shipped in a DVD or will it ship in a thumb drive? Or, like someone said, will it be digitally distributed in the App Store? I hope it'll be the 2 above the one I just asked because the people that don't have credit cards like me couldn't buy it unless we either get an App Store card that'll equal how much the new OS costs or wait until they release it with thumb drives. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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User names and passwords are just like locks on doors. They are really there to keep honest men honest. A thief will always find a way no matter the security measures used. I agree with Ricardo on this one. CD's and DVD's are going the way of the vinyl records and eight track tapes. On May 16, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote: I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Which, if my memory serves me correctly is what you do at the moment with the macbook air; apple ships you a thumb drive with snow leopard on it with the computer. On 16/05/2011, louie louiem...@wavecable.com wrote: Thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
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I wander how they write protect that thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Which, if my memory serves me correctly is what you do at the moment with the macbook air; apple ships you a thumb drive with snow leopard on it with the computer. On 16/05/2011, louie louiem...@wavecable.com wrote: Thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I've scene usb drives with write protect switches, or it might be a sd card inside a enclosure which allows for a write protect switch. They wouldn't have a need to really though; I'm guessing that if you managed to delete snow leopard from the drive it would be your problem, unless you were willing to pay Apple for another one. On 16/05/2011, louie louiem...@wavecable.com wrote: I wander how they write protect that thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Which, if my memory serves me correctly is what you do at the moment with the macbook air; apple ships you a thumb drive with snow leopard on it with the computer. On 16/05/2011, louie louiem...@wavecable.com wrote: Thumdrive. On May 16, 2011, at 9:36 AM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. louie louiem...@wavecable.com
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well you could plug in an external DVD via USB, or maybe your OS could be backed up onto a memory card or a bootable portion could be available on your SSD drive. In all 10 years of having a Mac, I have never had to re-install my OS on any of my Machines. With Windows I think I used to reinstall it about once a month. But I agree with Riccardo and others, I think eventually the Mac will become the Macbook Air as standard. with cloud services and you would purchase your OS via the App Store. Apple were the first to ditch the floppy drive, did we survive without it? Yes! On 16 May 2011, at 17:36, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
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Operating systems will be put on USB thumb drives like presently done for the new Macbook airs. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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USB drives can be used to reinstall operating systems just as CD's and DVD's are. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com
