Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Thurman
cool  now is there a way to make the i pod touch pair with my bluetooth 
keychain gps reciever so I can run gps navigation aps like the I hone?  aside 
from just having one piece to carry that's the hardest part about getting the I 
pod touch instead of the I phone
On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:44 PM, lpna...@gmail.com wrote:

> The. LG optimus also provides mobile hotspot if you download hotspot widget.
> Egun on, Lagunak! (Basque for "G'Day,Mates
> Louie. P. "Pete"nalda
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> 
> Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> Thats not necessarily the case.  Their are pre payed phones running Android.  
> Like the LG optamous.  So you will have some accessibility.  Or, you can just 
> have a regular phone, and have an iPod touch with some sort of mobile hotspot 
> device like a sprint overdrive, a MIFI, or a clear iSpot.  Their are many 
> ways you can go if your will to do a little research.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
> > yes a prepaid phone that has no accessability   tht's my entier point  what 
> > I want is prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone  we should no 
> > thave to pay for minutes we have no intention of using
> > 
> > On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> > 
> >> No.
> >> 
> >> I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre 
> >> payed phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is 
> >> putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.
> >> 
> >> JMO.
> >> 
> >> Ricardo Walker
> >> rwalker...@gmail.com
> >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> >> 
> >>> charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
> >>> independantly wealthy?
> >>> the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
> >>> plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
> >>> say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes 
> >>> I will never use?
> >>> 
> >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> >>> 
>  Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you 
>  more?
>  
>  Ricardo Walker
>  rwalker...@gmail.com
>  Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>  Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>  
>  
>  
>  On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>  
> > Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how 
> > I feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make 
> > them change there minds.
> > 
> > Take care.
> > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> > 
> >> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> >> wrong with paying for that?
> >> 
> >> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
> >> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
> >> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> >> 
> >>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
> >>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
> >>> 
> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> >>> 
>  If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>  would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>  
>  On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>  wrote:
>  
> > That's what I'm reading.
> > 
> > Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> > jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> > 
> > On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> > 
> >> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
> >> name
> >> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
> >> the
> >> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> >> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> >> 
> >> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> >>> Rose, this is fantastic.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for this resource!
> >>> 
> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> >>> 
>  I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
>  be found
>  at
>  http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>  and
>  http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> >>

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread lpna...@gmail.com
The. LG optimus also provides mobile hotspot if you download hotspot widget.
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Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Thats not necessarily the case. Their are pre payed phones running Android. 
Like the LG optamous. So you will have some accessibility. Or, you can just 
have a regular phone, and have an iPod touch with some sort of mobile hotspot 
device like a sprint overdrive, a MIFI, or a clear iSpot. Their are many ways 
you can go if your will to do a little research. Ricardo Walker 
rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 
1-646-450-2197 On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > yes a 
prepaid phone that has no accessability tht's my entier point what I want is 
prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone we should no thave to pay for 
minutes we have no intention of using > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo 
Walker wrote: > >> No. >> >> I'm far from independently wealthy. To me it 
sounds like you need a pre payed phone or something. mean, you do have options 
you know. No one is putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract. 
>> >> JMO.
>> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: 
>> >> rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 
>> >> 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> charge way too god damn munc for 
>> >> less and less all the time. or are you independantly wealthy? >>> the 
>> >> fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
>> >> plan is rediculous i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
>> >> say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever so why should I pay fr minutes 
>> >> I will never use? >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker 
>> >> wrote: >>>  Change their minds about what exactly? Charging more for 
>> >> giving you more?   Ricardo Walker  rwalker...@gmail.com  
>> >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296  Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 
>> >>     On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:  
>> >> > Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on 
>> >> how I feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do
this it might make them change there minds. > > Take care. > On Feb 
2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Well if you have a 
hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's wrong with paying for that? 
>> >> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the 
best of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting 
is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 
2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> it's assanine that they 
want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick of getting jacked over by these 
companies >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: 
>>>  If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging 
then I would nit consider jailbreaking.   On 30/01/2011, at 
12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:  > 
That's what I'm reading. > > Honestly I'm thinking
just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi 
hotspot. > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose 
wrote: > >> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who 
goes by the name >> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that 
call themselves the >> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with 
apple. >> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. 
>> >> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  
wrote: >>> Rose, this is fantastic. >>> >>> Thanks for 
this resource! >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose 
Morales wrote: >>>  I have written two extensive articles 
on jailbreaking. They can be found  at  
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective 
 and 
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
   Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a 
new version designed  for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish 
to install Icy after you  jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to 
the autoinstall path for jb apps,  also described in jb104. 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.  JB101 also 
explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak  
information.  Hth,  Rose  On Jan 30, 2011, 
at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:  > Would you mind 
detailing how you did that and th

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Thats not necessarily the case.  Their are pre payed phones running Android.  
Like the LG optamous.  So you will have some accessibility.  Or, you can just 
have a regular phone, and have an iPod touch with some sort of mobile hotspot 
device like a sprint overdrive, a MIFI, or a clear iSpot.  Their are many ways 
you can go if your will to do a little research.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> yes a prepaid phone that has no accessability   tht's my entier point  what I 
> want is prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone  we should no thave 
> to pay for minutes we have no intention of using
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> No.
>> 
>> I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre 
>> payed phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is 
>> putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.
>> 
>> JMO.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
>>> independantly wealthy?
>>> the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
>>> plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
>>> say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I 
>>> will never use?
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
> change there minds.
> 
> Take care.
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
>> wrong with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
>> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
>> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
>>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
>> the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
> shot but
>

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Thurman
yes a prepaid phone that has no accessability   tht's my entier point  what I 
want is prepaid minutes with the data plan for an I phone  we should no thave 
to pay for minutes we have no intention of using

On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> No.
> 
> I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre 
> payed phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is 
> putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
>> independantly wealthy?
>> the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
>> plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or 
>> say yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I 
>> will never use?
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
 feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
 change there minds.
 
 Take care.
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> wrong with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
>> of getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
>>> found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
>>> you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
>>> jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>>> jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
> issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
> doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
> everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Ci

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Scott Granados
Yeah, it sucks on the train as well.  My streams drop every few minutes.  




On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> tell me about it.
> 
> My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
>> good but not when you're moving or in doors.
>> 
>> 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
>>> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m 
>>> sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Nah,
 I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
 point.
 
 Much much to slow.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some 
>> objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>> 
>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>> 
>>  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>> to Verizon.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
>>> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of 
>>> do now but yeah.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at 
 and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone 
 hav I phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I 
 phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> wrong with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best 
> of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for 
> texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
> name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
> themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
>>> be found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy 
>>> after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path 
>>> for jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>>> jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Ja

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually I'm writing to you from a clear connection. I'm in doors and get about 
6 to 10 mbps, that is if all 5 comptuers are not on there at once but I would 
imagine that it is hard to get any kind of connection while moving.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> tell me about it.
> 
> My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
>> good but not when you're moving or in doors.
>> 
>> 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
>>> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m 
>>> sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Nah,
 I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
 point.
 
 Much much to slow.
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some 
>> objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>> 
>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>> 
>>  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>> to Verizon.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
>>> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of 
>>> do now but yeah.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at 
 and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone 
 hav I phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I 
 phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> wrong with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best 
> of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for 
> texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason 
 I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
> name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call 
> themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
>>> be found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy 
>>> after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path 
>>> for jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
tell me about it.

My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
> good but not when you're moving or in doors.
> 
> 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
>> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m 
>> sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Nah,
>>> I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
>>> point.
>>> 
>>> Much much to slow.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some 
> objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
> 
> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
> 
>   I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
> to Verizon.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
>> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of 
>> do now but yeah.
>> 
>> S
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and 
>>> t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
>>> phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
>>> could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
 is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>> 
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the 
 name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
 the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
> 
> Thanks for this resource!
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
>> be found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>> 
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>> designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy 
>> after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path 
>> for jb apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>> jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok 
>>> to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it 
>>> a shot bu

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Scott Granados
I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
good but not when you're moving or in doors.

2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m sure 
> that will come when at&t switches to LTE. 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Nah,
>> I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
>> point.
>> 
>> Much much to slow.
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
 to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
 
 The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
 
I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
 to Verizon.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do 
> now but yeah.
> 
> S
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and 
>> t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
>> phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
>> could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
>>> wrong with paying for that?
>>> 
>>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
>>> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
>>> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
 sick of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
> wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
>>> the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
> be found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> 
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
> designed
> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
> you
> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
> jb apps,
> also described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
> jailbreak
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok 
>> to
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>> shot but
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a 
>> jailbreak process
>> though.
>> 
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have 

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m sure 
that will come when at&t switches to LTE. 
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Nah,
> I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
> point.
> 
> Much much to slow.
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
>>> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>>> 
>>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>>> 
>>> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>>> to Verizon.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
 at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do 
 now but yeah.
 
 S
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
> and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
> phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
> could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
>> wrong with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
>> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
>> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
>>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
 would nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
>> the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
 jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
> shot but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
> process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
>> issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
>> doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>> everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>> Besides,
>> Icy is

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Scott Granados
Nah,
I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this point.

Much much to slow.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
>> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>> 
>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>> 
>>  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>> to Verizon.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t 
>>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now 
>>> but yeah.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> wrong with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
>> of getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
>>> found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
>>> you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
>>> jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>>> jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
> issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
> doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
> everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
> Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
> suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
> team
> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
> 
> --
> You received thi

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ok.

I think we need a little anger management here, and spell check?

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
>> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>> 
>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>> 
>>  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>> to Verizon.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t 
>>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now 
>>> but yeah.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> wrong with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
>> of getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
>>> found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
>>> you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
>>> jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>>> jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
> issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
> doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
> everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
> Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
> suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
> team
> really should be accessible. Anyway

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
No.

I'm far from independently wealthy.  To me it sounds like you need a pre payed 
phone or something.   mean, you do have options you know.  No one is putting a 
gun to your head, and making you sign a contract.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
> independantly wealthy?
> the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice 
> plan is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or say 
> yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I will 
> never use?
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
>>> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
>>> change there minds.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
> of getting jacked over by these companies
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
>> nit consider jailbreaking. 
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>> 
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
> 
> Thanks for this resource!
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
>> found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>> 
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>> designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>> apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>> jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>>> shot but
>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>>> process
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Sarah Alawami
I already sent a rant to at&t's facebook wall and I erge those that are able to 
do so. I can't say all as not all of have FB lol! but if not we can always send 
paper letters and floods of them. Mewhahaha!
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
> 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
>> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>> 
>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>> 
>>  I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>> to Verizon.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t 
>>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now 
>>> but yeah.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
 and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
 now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
 I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
> wrong with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
>> of getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
>>> found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
>>> you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
>>> jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>>> jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
 shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
> issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
> doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
> everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
> Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
> suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
> team
> really shou

Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-03 Thread Michael Thurman
then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces

On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected to 
> having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
> 
> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
> 
>   I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
> to Verizon.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t 
>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but 
>> yeah.
>> 
>> S
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
>>> and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
>>> now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
>>> I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
 wrong with paying for that?
 
 I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
 them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
 unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
 
 
 On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
> of getting jacked over by these companies
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
>> nit consider jailbreaking. 
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>> 
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
> 
> Thanks for this resource!
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
>> found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>> 
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>> designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>> apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>> jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>>> shot but
>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>>> process
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
 issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Scott Granados
There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected to 
having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.

The unlimited policy was definitely nice.

I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
to Verizon.:)


On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t 
> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but 
> yeah.
> 
> S
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t 
>> and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones 
>> now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see 
>> I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>>> with paying for that?
>>> 
>>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
> nit consider jailbreaking. 
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
> found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> 
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
> designed
> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
> apps,
> also described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
> jailbreak
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>> shot but
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>> process
>> though.
>> 
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. 
>>> I
>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
>>> doesn't
>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>>> everything
>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>>> Besides,
>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>>> suggest
>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t 
would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but 
yeah.

S
On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t and 
> verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now  
> if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have 
> a droid in a heartbeat
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>> with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>>> getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
> but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
> process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>> everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>> Besides,
>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>> suggest
>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
lol! Yeah I know. I sent them a rant about that article. Now let's hope theuy 
don't block me for ranting. I try not to come across as rude. I try and provide 
research as to why I'm ranting but I"ll shut up now as I'm just a bit tired.

S
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> Sarah,
> they are already being sued because of their predatory business practices 
> against iPhone users.
> 
> of course, a little negative publicity will certainly not hurt. 
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
>> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
>> change there minds.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>>> with paying for that?
>>> 
>>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
> nit consider jailbreaking. 
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
> found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> 
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
> designed
> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
> apps,
> also described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
> jailbreak
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>> shot but
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>> process
>> though.
>> 
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. 
>>> I
>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
>>> doesn't
>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>>> everything
>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>>> Besides,
>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>>> suggest
>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Thurman
charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you 
independantly wealthy?
the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice plan 
is rediculous  i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or say yeah 
I'll se you on skype or whatever  so why should I pay fr minutes I will never 
use?

On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
>> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
>> change there minds.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>>> with paying for that?
>>> 
>>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick 
 of getting jacked over by these companies
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
> nit consider jailbreaking. 
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
> found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> 
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
> designed
> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
> apps,
> also described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
> jailbreak
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>> shot but
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>> process
>> though.
>> 
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. 
>>> I
>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
>>> doesn't
>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>>> everything
>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>>> Besides,
>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>>> suggest
>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Thurman
not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and t and 
verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now  if 
they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a 
droid in a heartbeat
On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
> with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>> getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
>>> nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>>> apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Change their minds about what exactly?  Charging more for giving you more?

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
> change there minds.
> 
> Take care.
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>> with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>>> getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
> but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
> process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>> everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>> Besides,
>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>> suggest
>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
They don't need to.  31% of people with cell phones in the U.S. are using smart 
phones.  This number is growing every day.  People will pay regardless.  

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I don't midnthe texting. I don't do that often but I do agree. they charge 
> way way too much for bandwith. If they lower the prices more consumers might 
> get onthe bandwith bandwagon and make the company more money.
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>> with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>>> getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
> but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
> process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>> everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>> Besides,
>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>> suggest
>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Scott Granados
facilities cost money.

These carriers are spending over a billion per year at an absolute minimum and 
some like ATT in the tens of billions.

Some thing else to remember is Spectrum is easily used up.  With the newer 
technologies like LTE you can fit more in the same frequency spectrum so costs 
in theory should drop.

Think of it like T1 lines used to be.   They  used to cost $1000+ per month for 
1.5 megabits.  Now you can get 100 megabits for $179 per month.  The facilities 
have to grow and if you look at like a supply and demand curve as the supply 
increases the costs drop assuming that supply outstrips demand.

 



On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I don't midnthe texting. I don't do that often but I do agree. they charge 
> way way too much for bandwith. If they lower the prices more consumers might 
> get onthe bandwith bandwagon and make the company more money.
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>> with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>>> getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
> but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
> process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>> everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>> Besides,
>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>> suggest
>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Eric Oyen
Sarah,
they are already being sued because of their predatory business practices 
against iPhone users.

of course, a little negative publicity will certainly not hurt. 

-Eric

On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I 
> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them 
> change there minds.
> 
> Take care.
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
>> with paying for that?
>> 
>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
>> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
>> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>>> getting jacked over by these companies
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
 nit consider jailbreaking. 
 
 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be 
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
 jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
> but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
> process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>> everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>> Besides,
>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>> suggest
>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I feel. 
If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them change 
there minds.

Take care.
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
> with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>> getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
>>> nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>>> apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Sarah Alawami
I don't midnthe texting. I don't do that often but I do agree. they charge way 
way too much for bandwith. If they lower the prices more consumers might get 
onthe bandwith bandwagon and make the company more money.
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
> with paying for that?
> 
> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them 
> but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is 
> unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
>> getting jacked over by these companies
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would 
>>> nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>>> apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Scott Granados
Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's wrong 
with paying for that?

I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them but 
this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting is unreasonable 
now that they should reduce.:)


On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
> getting jacked over by these companies
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit 
>> consider jailbreaking. 
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>> 
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
> 
> Thanks for this resource!
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>> 
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb 
>> apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot 
>>> but
>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak 
>>> process
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-02 Thread Michael Thurman
it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm sick of 
getting jacked over by these companies

On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit 
> consider jailbreaking. 
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> 
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
> also described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
>> though.
>> 
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>> 
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Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-01 Thread Rose Morales
There might be a jailbreak app for that. I know of one app which will show you 
what towers have what amount of signal. It's a paid app, so you'd needed 
sighted help to purchase it from Cydia. But I don't know if the app allows you 
to make use of towers with stronger signals. The app is on hosted at the iPhone 
dev team's repository. If I get some time, I'll have a look around for it.
Rose
On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> I was just curious if you could grab different segments of towers.
> 
> There's a really congested section I travel through that I'd like to find a 
> work around for.  
> 
> I kow with CDMA there are lots of knobs to tweak once you unlock the EPST.  
> Didn't know if this was similar.
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> The only advantage to flashing your baseband is that you can unlock. Once 
>> you do so, you cannot go back, and Apple will be able to see what you've 
>> done. Also, you can only restore to custom firmware. Which, if you're an 
>> unlocker, you need custom firmware to keep your unlock. But again, flashing 
>> your baseband is only recommended if you have basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04. 
>> If you don't want to flash your baseband and you don't have a different 
>> baseband, just wait for another unlockable baseband to come out so you don't 
>> have to flash yours. It's that simple.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there any advantage of flashing your baseband?  Can you hack your device 
>>> for better performance in some way?
>>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on 
 basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. 
 Anything else is fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are 
 steps you can take to preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a 
 standard restore if need be in future.
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  
> the phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful 
> device.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> S
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
>> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
>> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
>> 
>> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
>> 
>> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
>>> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did 
>>> and
>>> what it means. lol!
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
 restore. Apple won't know a thing.
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
> breaks.
> 
> S
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are 
>> between
>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
>> least, it's an experience.
>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm 
>> assuming
>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
>> idea of safari not working.
>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
>> 
>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
>>> indicated
>>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
>>> can't go
>>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
>>> need
>>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
>>> wait to
>>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>>> 
>>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
>>> mode and
>>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot 
>>> my

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-01 Thread Scott Granados
I was just curious if you could grab different segments of towers.

There's a really congested section I travel through that I'd like to find a 
work around for.  

I kow with CDMA there are lots of knobs to tweak once you unlock the EPST.  
Didn't know if this was similar.


On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

> The only advantage to flashing your baseband is that you can unlock. Once you 
> do so, you cannot go back, and Apple will be able to see what you've done. 
> Also, you can only restore to custom firmware. Which, if you're an unlocker, 
> you need custom firmware to keep your unlock. But again, flashing your 
> baseband is only recommended if you have basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04. If 
> you don't want to flash your baseband and you don't have a different 
> baseband, just wait for another unlockable baseband to come out so you don't 
> have to flash yours. It's that simple.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Is there any advantage of flashing your baseband?  Can you hack your device 
>> for better performance in some way?
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on 
>>> basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. 
>>> Anything else is fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are 
>>> steps you can take to preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a standard 
>>> restore if need be in future.
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
 phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.
 
 Thanks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
> 
> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
>> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did 
>> and
>> what it means. lol!
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
 dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
 canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
 breaks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
>> indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
>> can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
>> need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
>> wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
>> mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
>> phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
>> information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
>> part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
>> important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to 
>> many
>> people, so here’s 

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-01 Thread Scott Granados
This is not correct.

When you restore the device to original it's wiped first.  No logs to worry 
about.

On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Iwouldn't do it. I would not even jail break. I'm sure there are logs stored 
> deep wiht in the phone that don't get flashed or erased that the apple devs 
> can look at when it comes time to repair your phone.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Is there any advantage of flashing your baseband?  Can you hack your device 
>> for better performance in some way?
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on 
>>> basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. 
>>> Anything else is fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are 
>>> steps you can take to preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a standard 
>>> restore if need be in future.
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
 phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.
 
 Thanks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
> 
> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
>> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did 
>> and
>> what it means. lol!
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
 dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
 canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
 breaks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
>> indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
>> can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
>> need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
>> wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
>> mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
>> phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
>> information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
>> part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
>> important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to 
>> many
>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
>> life is
>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>> applies.
>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
>> assistance.
>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important 
>> programs
>> like
>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>> jai

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-02-01 Thread Rose Morales
The only advantage to flashing your baseband is that you can unlock. Once you 
do so, you cannot go back, and Apple will be able to see what you've done. 
Also, you can only restore to custom firmware. Which, if you're an unlocker, 
you need custom firmware to keep your unlock. But again, flashing your baseband 
is only recommended if you have basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04. If you don't 
want to flash your baseband and you don't have a different baseband, just wait 
for another unlockable baseband to come out so you don't have to flash yours. 
It's that simple.
Hth,
Rose
On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Is there any advantage of flashing your baseband?  Can you hack your device 
> for better performance in some way?
> 
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on 
>> basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. Anything 
>> else is fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are steps you can 
>> take to preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a standard restore if 
>> need be in future.
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
>>> phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
 is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
 so long as you restore, you should be fine.
 
 You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did 
> and
> what it means. lol!
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
>>> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
>>> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
>>> breaks.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
> indicated
> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
> can't go
> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
> need
> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
> wait to
> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
> 
> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
> mode and
> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
> phone
> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
> information on
> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
> part of
> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
> important
> info.
> 
> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to 
> many
> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
> life is
> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
> applies.
> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
> assistance.
> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
> like
> Spr

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
Iwouldn't do it. I would not even jail break. I'm sure there are logs stored 
deep wiht in the phone that don't get flashed or erased that the apple devs can 
look at when it comes time to repair your phone.

Good luck.
On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Is there any advantage of flashing your baseband?  Can you hack your device 
> for better performance in some way?
> 
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on 
>> basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. Anything 
>> else is fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are steps you can 
>> take to preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a standard restore if 
>> need be in future.
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
>>> phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
 is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
 so long as you restore, you should be fine.
 
 You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did 
> and
> what it means. lol!
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
>>> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
>>> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
>>> breaks.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
 
 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
> indicated
> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
> can't go
> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
> need
> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
> wait to
> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
> 
> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
> mode and
> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
> phone
> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
> information on
> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
> part of
> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
> important
> info.
> 
> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to 
> many
> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
> life is
> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
> applies.
> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
> assistance.
> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
> like
> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
> white
> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
> fail
> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate 

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Scott Granados
Is there any advantage of flashing your baseband?  Can you hack your device for 
better performance in some way?

On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Rose Morales wrote:

> Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on 
> basebands 5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. Anything 
> else is fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are steps you can 
> take to preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a standard restore if need 
> be in future.
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
>> phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
>>> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
>>> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
>>> 
>>> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
>>> 
>>> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
 read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
 what it means. lol!
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
>> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
>> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
>> breaks.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
>>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
>>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
>>> least, it's an experience.
>>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
>>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
>>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
>>> idea of safari not working.
>>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
>>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
>>> 
>>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
 indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
 can't go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
 need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
 wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
 mode and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
 phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
 information on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
 part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
 important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
 life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
 assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
 like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
 white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
 fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
 or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
 stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
 now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
 dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPh

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
Flashing the baseband only needs to occur in some instances. 3gS's on basebands 
5.14.04 and 5.15.04 must be flashed at this current time. Anything else is 
fine, and if you have a different baseband, there are steps you can take to 
preserve it when you upgrade so you can do a standard restore if need be in 
future.
On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
> phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> S
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
>> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
>> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
>> 
>> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
>> 
>> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
>>> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
>>> what it means. lol!
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
 restore. Apple won't know a thing.
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
> breaks.
> 
> S
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
>> least, it's an experience.
>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
>> idea of safari not working.
>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
>> 
>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
>>> indicated
>>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
>>> can't go
>>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
>>> need
>>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
>>> wait to
>>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>>> 
>>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
>>> mode and
>>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
>>> phone
>>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
>>> information on
>>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
>>> part of
>>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
>>> important
>>> info.
>>> 
>>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
>>> life is
>>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>>> applies.
>>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
>>> assistance.
>>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
>>> like
>>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
>>> white
>>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
>>> fail
>>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
>>> or
>>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
>>> stuck at
>>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
>>> now”.
>>> End of excerpt.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
>>> dependency
>>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
>>> This
>>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
>>> friend,
>>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not,
>>> so I
>>> cannot reboot without 

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.

Thanks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
> 
> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
>> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
>> what it means. lol!
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
 dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
 canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
 breaks.
 
 S
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
>> indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
>> can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
>> need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
>> wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
>> mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
>> phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
>> information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
>> part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
>> important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
>> life is
>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>> applies.
>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
>> assistance.
>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
>> like
>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
>> white
>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
>> fail
>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
>> or
>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
>> stuck at
>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
>> now”.
>> End of excerpt.
>> 
>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
>> dependency
>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
>> This
>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
>> friend,
>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not,
>> so I
>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't
>> have
>> that problem.
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
 my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
so long as you restore, you should be fine.

You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.

On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
> what it means. lol!
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>
>>> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
>>> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
>>> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
>>> breaks.
>>>
>>> S
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>
 I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
 was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
 least, it's an experience.
 I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
 phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
 that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
 idea of safari not working.
 To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
 randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.

 On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
> indicated
> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
> can't go
> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
> need
> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
> wait to
> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>
> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
> mode and
> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
> phone
> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
> information on
> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
> part of
> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
> important
> info.
>
> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
> life is
> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
> applies.
> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
> assistance.
> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
> like
> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
> white
> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
> fail
> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
> or
> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
> stuck at
> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
> now”.
> End of excerpt.
>
> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
> dependency
> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
> This
> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
> friend,
> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not,
> so I
> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't
> have
> that problem.
>
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>
>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>
>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
>>> my
>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
 would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.

>

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Justin Ekis
I don't have any experience with jailbreaking myself. If I understand that 
article though, the base band check only effects people who unlock their 
iPhone. This is an additional process to enable the phone on other carriers. 
People who simply jailbreak don't need to be concerned with this.

Justin

On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up 
the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore to 
older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>> applies.
>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
>> End of excerpt.
>> 
>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
>> that problem.
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
> nit
> consider jailbreaking.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 

Re: band limit was Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I read 
the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and what it 
means. lol!
On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:

> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still 
> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig 
>> up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot 
>> restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.
>> 
>> S
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
>>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
>>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
>>> least, it's an experience.
>>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
>>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
>>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
>>> idea of safari not working.
>>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
>>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
>>> 
>>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
 I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
 that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't 
 go
 back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
 them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
 accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
 upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
 
 At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode 
 and
 launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
 while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information 
 on
 what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
 jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
 http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
 in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
 info.
 
 Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
 people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
 easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
 applies.
 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac 
 assistance.
 If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
 SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
 jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
 icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
 (Safari being the most noticeable example).
 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
 other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
 the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right 
 now”.
 End of excerpt.
 
 For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
 of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
 means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
 who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so 
 I
 cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
 that problem.
 
 On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
> 
> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
>> all.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
>>> nit
>>> consider jailbreaking.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people tha

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still 
restore. Apple won't know a thing.
On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up 
> the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore 
> to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.
> 
> S
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
>> least, it's an experience.
>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
>> idea of safari not working.
>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
>> 
>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
>>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
>>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
>>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
>>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>>> 
>>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
>>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
>>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
>>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
>>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
>>> info.
>>> 
>>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
>>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>>> applies.
>>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
>>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
>>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
>>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
>>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
>>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
>>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
>>> End of excerpt.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
>>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
>>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
>>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
>>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
>>> that problem.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
 
 On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
> all.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
>> nit
>> consider jailbreaking.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>> 
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
> 
> Thanks for this resource!
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales w

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
Ben,
My serial indicates that my iphone was produced in week 27. There is no reason 
why I should have been on the new boot rom. My only guess is that my week 
number was really 72, as 2 is the number after 7. I don't know, but as I said, 
I accepted the risks when I chose to experiment. And if I don't experiment, no 
one else will. I'm not on a carrier supported by Apple, so I have nothing to 
lose either way. I've put my phone through the paces many times. So unless 
something happens to the hardware or the phone itself, I doubt my phone will 
ever truly be bricked. I can't switch to at&t because I am paying for two other 
phones as a favor to my family. T-mobile makes it easier to pay for three 
phones than at&t. I really wanted my iPhone,and I wanted to show other blind 
people who wished to do the same thing that jailbreaking is nothing to be 
scared of. I've done so, and I will continue to do so.
Rose
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>> applies.
>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
>> End of excerpt.
>> 
>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
>> that problem.
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
> nit
> consider jailbreaking.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was ma

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Sarah Alawami
and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up 
the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore to 
older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>> applies.
>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
>> End of excerpt.
>> 
>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
>> that problem.
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
 Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
 the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
 at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
 all.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
> nit
> consider jailbreaking.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
> 
>> That's what I'm reading.
>> 
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.
 
 Thanks for this resource!
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
 
> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
> found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
least, it's an experience.
I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
idea of safari not working.
To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.

On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales  wrote:
> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>
> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
> info.
>
> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
> applies.
> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
> End of excerpt.
>
> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
> that problem.
>
> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>
>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>
>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
 If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
 nit
 consider jailbreaking.

 On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados 
 wrote:

> That's what I'm reading.
>
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>>
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>>
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
 found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
 designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after
 you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
 apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-31 Thread Rose Morales
I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated that 
my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go back to 
4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need them. So I'm 
stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I accepted the risks when 
I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to upgrade, but I wanted to 
experiment.

At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and 
launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone 
while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on 
what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of 
jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important info.

Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many people, 
so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is 
easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below applies.
2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance. If 
you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like 
SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However, jailbreak 
programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white icon).  Also, 
certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail (Safari being the 
most noticeable example).
3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or 
other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at the 
Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
End of excerpt.

For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency of 
Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This means 
that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend, who has a 
locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I cannot 
reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have that 
problem.

On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:

> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
> 
> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
>> all.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
>>> nit
>>> consider jailbreaking.
>>> 
>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
 That's what I'm reading.
 
 Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
 jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
 
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
>>> found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
>>> designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
>>> apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
>>> jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
 but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
 process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue.
> I

Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread James Malone
Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.

On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
> all.
>
> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
>> nit
>> consider jailbreaking.
>>
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>>
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.

 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
>
> Thanks for this resource!
>
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
>> found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
>> designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
>> apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
>> jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
>>> but
>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
>>> process
>>> though.
>>>
>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue.
 I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
 doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.

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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
That's true, but if the companies would include teathing with the data plan I 
can stream live where ever I am, or check my email while in the car.

S
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
> all.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit
>> consider jailbreaking.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>> 
>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
 Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
 Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
 iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
 Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
 
 On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
> 
> Thanks for this resource!
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
> 
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
>> found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>> 
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
>> apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
>> jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
>>> but
>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
>>> process
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
 everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
 Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
 suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
 really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
 
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
all.

On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit
> consider jailbreaking.
>
> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:
>
>> That's what I'm reading.
>>
>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>
>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>>
>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
 Rose, this is fantastic.

 Thanks for this resource!

 On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
> found
> at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
> apps,
> also described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
> jailbreak
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot
>> but
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
>> process
>> though.
>>
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
>>> everything
>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
>>> Besides,
>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
>>> suggest
>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>>
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit 
consider jailbreaking. 

On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados  wrote:

> That's what I'm reading.
> 
> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd jailbreak 
> would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> 
>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>> 
>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>> 
 I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
 at
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
 and
 http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
 
 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
 for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
 jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
 also described in jb104.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
 JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
 information.
 Hth,
 Rose
 On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
> though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Scott Granados
That's what I'm reading.

Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd jailbreak 
would be to have a WiFi hotspot.

On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
> 
> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>> 
>> Thanks for this resource!
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>>> at
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>> and
>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>> 
>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
>>> also described in jb104.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>>> information.
>>> Hth,
>>> Rose
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
 jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
 was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
 though.
 
 I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
 
 On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.

On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Rose, this is fantastic.
>
> Thanks for this resource!
>
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>
>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found
>> at
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>> and
>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>
>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed
>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you
>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps,
>> also described in jb104.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak
>> information.
>> Hth,
>> Rose
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>
>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but
>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process
>>> though.
>>>
>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I
 tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't
 seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything
 seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides,
 Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest
 what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
 asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Scott Granados
Rose, this is fantastic.

Thanks for this resource!

On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:

> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found at
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
> and
> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
> 
> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed for 
> OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you jailbreak, 
> copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps, also 
> described in jb104.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak 
> information.
> Hth,
> Rose
> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to 
>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but 
>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process 
>> though.
>> 
>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried 
>>> to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to 
>>> like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to 
>>> point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't 
>>> being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should 
>>> do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, 
>>> something that was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. 
>>> Anyway, thanks guys.
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Rose Morales
I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found at
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
and
http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2

Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed for OS 
4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you jailbreak, copy 
the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps, also described in 
jb104.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak 
information.
Hth,
Rose
On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak. 
>  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out 
> of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process though.
> 
> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried 
>> to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like 
>> it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in 
>> the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made 
>> anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse 
>> comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that 
>> was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks 
>> guys.
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Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-30 Thread Scott Granados
Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak.  
Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out of 
it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak process though.

I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.

On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:

> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried 
> to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like 
> it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in 
> the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made 
> anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse 
> comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that 
> was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks 
> guys.
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Jailbreaking and some solutions?

2011-01-29 Thread James Malone
Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried to 
start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like it. 
Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in the 
direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made anymore 
either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse comes to 
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