RE: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi Do bear in mind that it can be the speech synth dying. Try another speech synth and see if you still have the same problems. Cheers Dave From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4 Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook http://www.facebook.com/chojiro Twitter http://www.twitter.com/chojiro Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, I already have. I switched between Alex and the Infovox iVox voices to test that theory. Besides, that would also be something introduced in the update as that problem was not there before regardless of the synthesizer. I went ahead and tried it anyway, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: Hi Do bear in mind that it can be the speech synth dying. Try another speech synth and see if you still have the same problems. Cheers Dave From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4 Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi Nic, This has happened to me quite frequently as well. VO crashed yesterday during a podcast I was recording. It's quite annoying and it takes me a few presses of command F5 to get it going again. Allison On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
I've been seeing it a lot more so in safari not really else where. On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, In that case, you might want to try the latest Webkit engine from http://www.webkit.org A lot of those crashes are probably related to the engine itself, and it tends to fix a lot of them as that engine is up-to-date and continuously being patched. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: I've been seeing it a lot more so in safari not really else where. On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hello Nic, I have a few crash reports, but nothing like the number there should be to reflect the times that VO goes silent on me. The past week only shows about half a dozen crashes. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, I guess I'm better off, then. I have one report from today, reflecting the time it crashed as well. I guess I can at least send that off. I'd like to see it crash once more at least. It might make it easier to see if there's something similar between the occurrence of the crashes. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I have a few crash reports, but nothing like the number there should be to reflect the times that VO goes silent on me. The past week only shows about half a dozen crashes. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Where do I find the log entry? When my Vo crashes, it crashes completely and I can't get speech when pressing command f5. I've waited for more than a hour when listening to an audiobook to see if that helped, but I couldn't start VO again... It doesn't happen very often, but it have gone more wors after I've upgraded to 10.5.4. if VO just died for 10 seconds or maybe two minutes, I could live with it. But I hate when it completely dies! Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:45 PM skrev Anne Robertson: Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, They're usually in ~/library/logs/CrashReporter and library/logs/CrashReporter. They're all timestamped as well. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Where do I find the log entry? When my Vo crashes, it crashes completely and I can't get speech when pressing command f5. I've waited for more than a hour when listening to an audiobook to see if that helped, but I couldn't start VO again... It doesn't happen very often, but it have gone more wors after I've upgraded to 10.5.4. if VO just died for 10 seconds or maybe two minutes, I could live with it. But I hate when it completely dies! Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:45 PM skrev Anne Robertson: Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, That happens to me when I'm reading tweets and mail messages. It's really weird. You're not the only one. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever application I'm using if it feels like doing it. It mostly seems to be if I'm moving very, very fast, however, or cutting off speech by moving around such as a long string of text. I've been seeing it a lot such as when I'm opening applications in particular. This morning, for example, I started reading tweets in Syrinx and suddenly, VoiceOver just died. Yesterday, I opened up the Infovox iVox pronunciation editor to add some phonetic transcriptions. It was reading the item in the finder while it was already opening. All I heard was busy, then Infovox iVox Pronunciation Editor window, and when I tried to move to cut off the speech concerning the transcriptions table, it died too. I can't reproduce it, though, which is why I'm hoping someone else is seeing this behavior too. It's much more frequent than ever for me, and I can't figure it out. Previously, VoiceOver only crashed on me on certain websites and even that was unusual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
If voice over doesn't come up on its own after a crash, starting up the voice over practice guide with control option command f8 then exiting out of there will work pretty much every time here. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Hi, Just in case though, for those who get the crashes, I sent in my two crash reports I got today just to see if they can do something with it. It's happening a lot more in 10.6.4 than I care to count. At least, it is for me. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote: I've found that after an alert message, VoiceOver does indeed freeze up even though the audio cues still work. The best way to regain control of VoiceOver is to press the escape key. Hope this helps. On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:26 AM, clarence griffin wrote: mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
hi to all. i was wondering what is this webkit thing? i've near heard of it. and also how do you send in your crash reports? thanks Liam Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Just in case though, for those who get the crashes, I sent in my two crash reports I got today just to see if they can do something with it. It's happening a lot more in 10.6.4 than I care to count. At least, it is for me. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote: I've found that after an alert message, VoiceOver does indeed freeze up even though the audio cues still work. The best way to regain control of VoiceOver is to press the escape key. Hope this helps. On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:26 AM, clarence griffin wrote: mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
Well I can answer the webkit thing. It's the engine safari uses to turn web pages into text on the screen, basically. You can download a nightly build at http://webkit.org. Then you run webkit instead of safari. It seems to work much better. On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:28 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote: hi to all. i was wondering what is this webkit thing? i've near heard of it. and also how do you send in your crash reports? thanks Liam Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Just in case though, for those who get the crashes, I sent in my two crash reports I got today just to see if they can do something with it. It's happening a lot more in 10.6.4 than I care to count. At least, it is for me. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote: I've found that after an alert message, VoiceOver does indeed freeze up even though the audio cues still work. The best way to regain control of VoiceOver is to press the escape key. Hope this helps. On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:26 AM, clarence griffin wrote: mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this
Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4
mine doesn't come up either if it crashes I have had to hard shut down hold power for a few secs and restart the machint to get it back On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is that we can't start VO again when it crash in that way. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Jun 28, 2010 kl. 3:08 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen: Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating not to have some kind of crash log to send to Apple. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
