RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
Prior to the M1, some VoiceOver users reported serious bugs so I believe that no OS is perfect. Sometimes, the fault lies within a particular app. From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 7:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? I don’t know. In the Windows world, there seems to be a steady influx of bugs that some users experience after each update – even minor updates. Have a look at https://www.windowslatest.com One of my laptops has a Windows 10 installation on it (along with Linux). So far, I haven’t run into any of the serious bugs reported on the above site, but it appears that, with each update, some people are encountering issues. That could encourage them to consider the Mac more closely than they might otherwise have done. As noted, though, my Windows 10 installation has been stable. Perhaps I’m lucky. There are accessibility bugs in Windows applications, of course, but the same is true everywhere. On the other hand, Microsoft seems to be improving the accessibility of Office for Mac, so this could also make the Mac increasingly viable for people who need Microsoft Office and who use screen readers. The M1 hardware probably attracts some users, too, as you suggest. On 5/10/21, 09:42, "'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries" mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groupsgoogle.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com> . -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1E866869-2F6B-834D-8F8B-A13ADB722063%40hxcore.ol <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1E866869-2F6B-834D-8F8B-A13ADB722063%40hxcore.ol?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email t
Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
I don’t know. In the Windows world, there seems to be a steady influx of bugs that some users experience after each update – even minor updates. Have a look athttps://www.windowslatest.comOne of my laptops has a Windows 10 installation on it (along with Linux). So far, I haven’t run into any of the serious bugs reported on the above site, but it appears that, with each update, some people are encountering issues. That could encourage them to consider the Mac more closely than they might otherwise have done. As noted, though, my Windows 10 installation has been stable. Perhaps I’m lucky. There are accessibility bugs in Windows applications, of course, but the same is true everywhere. On the other hand, Microsoft seems to be improving the accessibility of Office for Mac, so this could also make the Mac increasingly viable for people who need Microsoft Office and who use screen readers. The M1 hardware probably attracts some users, too, as you suggest.On 5/10/21, 09:42, "'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries" wrote:I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? Cheers,Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groupsgoogle.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1E866869-2F6B-834D-8F8B-A13ADB722063%40hxcore.ol.
RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
Actually, you don't have to use a separate sound card on Windows and can do the install independently. The Mac had the accessible installer long before Windows did, however. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:23 PM To: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? Matthew Hi I have been a mac user for years. I have an el-braille which of corse uses windows 10, but I find Mac os to be a much more stable system and you don't have to pay for SMA'S to keep your screen reader update. Also, if you need to do a fresh instally don't need a seporate sound card to get sound with narorator. The *stall can do be done without sited help to do this. On 5/10/2021 12:17 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote: > I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express > purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws > and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to > my chosen profession. I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that > updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I > still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more > every day. > I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice. I use Allison on my Mac, > iPad and iPhone. > I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same > environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in > every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so > four now I’ll keep them. > But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another > subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their > native apps such as pages and mail. > Merv > > >> On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an >> inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? >> >> I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine >> primarily, but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that >> make me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac >> and phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient >> and I can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. >> The Mac has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. >> Mac Mail is the best, and I love being able to take Phone and FaceTime >> calls n my Mac allowing me to multi-task. >> >>> On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> I am not a Windows switcher so to speak. >>> I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the >>> ability to use IOS apps on the Mac. >>> Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift >>> playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and >>> great VoiceOver support for native apps. >>> Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired. >>> Curiosity got me into the Mac world. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >>> >>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM >>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> >>> Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? >>> >>> I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just >>> wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all >>> about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the >>> Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Sabahattin >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner
Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
Matthew Hi I have been a mac user for years. I have an el-braille which of corse uses windows 10, but I find Mac os to be a much more stable system and you don't have to pay for SMA'S to keep your screen reader update. Also, if you need to do a fresh instally don't need a seporate sound card to get sound with narorator. The *stall can do be done without sited help to do this. On 5/10/2021 12:17 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote: I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to my chosen profession. I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more every day. I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice. I use Allison on my Mac, iPad and iPhone. I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so four now I’ll keep them. But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their native apps such as pages and mail. Merv On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie Allen Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine primarily, but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is the best, and I love being able to take Phone and FaceTime calls n my Mac allowing me to multi-task. On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: I am not a Windows switcher so to speak. I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the ability to use IOS apps on the Mac. Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great VoiceOver support for native apps. Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired. Curiosity got me into the Mac world. -Original Message- From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- Yo
Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to my chosen profession. I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more every day. I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice. I use Allison on my Mac, iPad and iPhone. I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so four now I’ll keep them. But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their native apps such as pages and mail. Merv > On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an > inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? > > I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine > primarily, but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make > me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and > phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I > can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac > has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is > the best, and I love being able to take Phone and FaceTime calls n my Mac > allowing me to multi-task. > >> On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I am not a Windows switcher so to speak. >> I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the >> ability to use IOS apps on the Mac. >> Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift >> playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great >> VoiceOver support for native apps. >> Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired. >> Curiosity got me into the Mac world. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries >> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM >> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? >> >> I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just >> wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about >> Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows >> world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? >> >> Cheers, >> Sabahattin >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Car
RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie Allen Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine primarily, but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is the best, and I love being able to take Phone and FaceTime calls n my Mac allowing me to multi-task. > On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > I am not a Windows switcher so to speak. > I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the > ability to use IOS apps on the Mac. > Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift > playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great > VoiceOver support for native apps. > Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired. > Curiosity got me into the Mac world. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM > To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? > > I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just > wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about > Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world > that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? > > Cheers, > Sabahattin > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/06d301d745a2%24a6aa5c00%24f3ff1400%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsu
Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine primarily, but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is the best, and I love being able to take Phone and FaceTime calls n my Mac allowing me to multi-task. > On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > > I am not a Windows switcher so to speak. > I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the > ability to use IOS apps on the Mac. > Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift > playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great > VoiceOver support for native apps. > Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired. > Curiosity got me into the Mac world. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM > To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? > > I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just > wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about > Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world > that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? > > Cheers, > Sabahattin > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/06d301d745a2%24a6aa5c00%24f3ff1400%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/25D937DB-51AA-4A5B-9ABA-830B1BFE724B%40gmail.com.
RE: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?
I am not a Windows switcher so to speak. I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the ability to use IOS apps on the Mac. Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great VoiceOver support for native apps. Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired. Curiosity got me into the Mac world. -Original Message- From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers? I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world that are driving this? Something else, perhaps? Cheers, Sabahattin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A995C080-7C8B-4047-943A-D2829ADE111D%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/06d301d745a2%24a6aa5c00%24f3ff1400%24%40gmail.com.