RE: Mack Mini and Monitor?
V G A is the port that monitors use to connect to a pc the older connector type. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:26 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Hi, I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work. The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos. Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
VGA was the last popular analog video connection before all the DIV/HDMI/DisplayPort craziness set in. It sort of shaped like the letter D with three rows of pins and the top row a bit wider than the last row. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: V G A is the port that monitors use to connect to a pc the older connector type. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:26 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Hi, I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work. The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos. Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries
RE: Mack Mini and Monitor?
But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Hi, I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work. The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos. Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Probably just SVideo or RCA composite video connectors then. CB Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work. The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos. Thanks, Courtney On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one connector). CB Bryan Smart wrote: But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get HD signal that way. Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and finally component video (the worst). Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage
Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack http://twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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Thanks so much, I appreciate it. Courtney On 10/05/2010, at 4:03 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo these days. All the cables come with it. CB Courtney Curran wrote: This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack
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It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
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I got my Mini about 2 months ago? which one will I need. Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
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According to Apple's site: http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html you should have both the MiniDVI and a displayport. Since the MiniDVI is $10 cheaper I'd go with that. CB Courtney Curran wrote: I got my Mini about 2 months ago? which one will I need. Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack http://twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
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Thanks so much for that info. I appreciate it, I'm going to purchase one today, I'm quite excited to see what the differences are. Thanks again, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 4:36 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: According to Apple's site: http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html you should have both the MiniDVI and a displayport. Since the MiniDVI is $10 cheaper I'd go with that. CB Courtney Curran wrote: I got my Mini about 2 months ago? which one will I need. Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini
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This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this matter? Thanks, Courtney On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote: It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway. So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20 http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here: http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp Hope this helps. CB Bryan Smart wrote: If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
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Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hello, On May 6, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Romack wrote: For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. This approach used to work, but apparently, this is no longer the case. Apple brought out the Mini so that people who were unsure about switching to a Mac could use the monitor and keyboard from their PC and not have to invest too much in something they might not like. It was never designed to be headless. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Mack Mini and Monitor?
If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week. No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor. Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're busy, busy, busy, busy. No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor being attached. No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer. No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we know. Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time. Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list? Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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My thought exactly. I may not have worded it exactly correctly, but my job of demonstrating tech to people requires me to take it with me a lot. But, you had a good idea about that adaptor, that's the sort of thing I was thinking about. I'll do some online research and see what I can find. Courtney On 06/05/2010, at 4:46 in the Afternoon, Romack wrote: A couple points to note here: Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is mini enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay? For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head. romack www.justinromack.com twitter.com/justinromack On May 6, 8:00 am, Neil James nei...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor. Neil - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor? Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5090 (20100506) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work. How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable? On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack mini to work a lot. I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is still very functional. Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
