RE: mac os server and remote desk top

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

I’m happy to work  in the terminal but it’s more my linux knowledge is not 
really up to scratch,
Yet my power shell and dos skills are fine.

But yeah GUI I think at this point would be easier.

But then hey gotta learn sometime and nothing like jumping in the shark tank to 
learn to swim.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 10 November 2017 6:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac os server and remote desk top

Hi,

Yes, I do lots via the Terminal as well, but Simon was mentioning that he 
wasn't comfortable working in the Terminal, hence, alternative GUI methods.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 9, 2017, at 21:39, sandi sørensen 
mailto:sandi1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Use ssh, and terminal, also known as Bash.
It is a little geeky to set up, but i promise you once done you can do 10 
different things at  the same time


SandieSent from my iPad

On 10 Nov 2017, at 05.15, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> 
wrote:
Hi Simon,

If they both get upgraded to High Sierra, then you'd still be fine.  With 
respect to the VPN, if you have DNS set up on the Sierra server, then enable 
Open Directory on the Sierra server.  Once OD is enabled, create a network user 
with "Services Only" privileges.  Use this network user as the user to connect 
to the VPN.  I've found that local user credentials don't work well with the 
VPN initial access.  The DNS on the server should point to itself as well as 
your router.  As long as the server can access the internet, then anything 
connected through its VPN service can do so as well.

With respect to ARD, sorry, no joy there either.  VO will not pass through the 
sound.  You can control VO as long as VO is off on your machine, but you won't 
hear anything unless you're sitting right beside it.  For connecting to the 
server, you could connect via AFP or smb through the VPN and have access to 
most things you'd need access to.

That's how I handle it anyway.  Well, that and Terminal.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 9, 2017, at 16:39, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Yeah one Idea and yes the two devices are currently both running sierra but 
that will get updated soonish.

I would prefer to be able to also access files / folder structures as well as 
server features, but from an off site location through my vpn which is being 
bloody difficult with setup and I can’t see which part is the issue.

I was wondering about ARD apple Remote Desktop on the server and if using that 
to connect to the client will give me vo through the connection
 Terminal isn’t currently an option as my linux skills are sadly not great.

I’ll keep playing and see what I can do .

Cheers.

SF
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 6:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: mac os server and remote desk top

Simon,

If you're MacBook is running the same MacOS as the Server, and all you're 
wanting to do is manage the Server settings, then you don't need to do anything 
special   Just install the Server app onto your MacBook, open it, press cmd-n 
to open a new connection, select Other from the table, then enter the IP of 
your router.  You will have first needed to set up a forwarder that will 
forward requests that come to the router for Server Admin tasks to be forwarded 
to your Server internal IP.  With all that set up, you can manage the server 
using the app on a different Mac.  The limitations happen when you're using a 
different version of the Server app on each machine these won't properly talk 
to each other.  I just have a drive with multiple MacOS's on it with multiple 
versions of Server app.  So, when I want to manage an el Capitan server 
installation, I use the 10.11.6 installation and so on for Sierra etc.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 8, 2017, at 00:18, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I’ve got a mac mini running sierra server which I’m setting up for a number of 
different things.

One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.

The other is Remote Desktop which I’d like to be able to do from my MBA

Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
server fine.

But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a say 
mac book to mac book
But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
connection,

Yet I can’t figure how to get this working,
Is anyone able to advise on how vo

Re: mac os server and remote desk top

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, I do lots via the Terminal as well, but Simon was mentioning that he 
wasn't comfortable working in the Terminal, hence, alternative GUI methods.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 9, 2017, at 21:39, sandi sørensen  wrote:

Use ssh, and terminal, also known as Bash.
It is a little geeky to set up, but i promise you once done you can do 10 
different things at  the same time


SandieSent from my iPad

On 10 Nov 2017, at 05.15, Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

> Hi Simon,
> 
> If they both get upgraded to High Sierra, then you'd still be fine.  With 
> respect to the VPN, if you have DNS set up on the Sierra server, then enable 
> Open Directory on the Sierra server.  Once OD is enabled, create a network 
> user with "Services Only" privileges.  Use this network user as the user to 
> connect to the VPN.  I've found that local user credentials don't work well 
> with the VPN initial access.  The DNS on the server should point to itself as 
> well as your router.  As long as the server can access the internet, then 
> anything connected through its VPN service can do so as well.
> 
> With respect to ARD, sorry, no joy there either.  VO will not pass through 
> the sound.  You can control VO as long as VO is off on your machine, but you 
> won't hear anything unless you're sitting right beside it.  For connecting to 
> the server, you could connect via AFP or smb through the VPN and have access 
> to most things you'd need access to.
> 
> That's how I handle it anyway.  Well, that and Terminal.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 16:39, Simon Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> Yeah one Idea and yes the two devices are currently both running sierra but 
> that will get updated soonish.
>  
> I would prefer to be able to also access files / folder structures as well as 
> server features, but from an off site location through my vpn which is being 
> bloody difficult with setup and I can’t see which part is the issue.
>  
> I was wondering about ARD apple Remote Desktop on the server and if using 
> that to connect to the client will give me vo through the connection 
>  Terminal isn’t currently an option as my linux skills are sadly not great.
>  
> I’ll keep playing and see what I can do . 
>  
> Cheers.
>  
> SF
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 6:48 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: mac os server and remote desk top
>  
> Simon,
>  
> If you're MacBook is running the same MacOS as the Server, and all you're 
> wanting to do is manage the Server settings, then you don't need to do 
> anything special   Just install the Server app onto your MacBook, open it, 
> press cmd-n to open a new connection, select Other from the table, then enter 
> the IP of your router.  You will have first needed to set up a forwarder that 
> will forward requests that come to the router for Server Admin tasks to be 
> forwarded to your Server internal IP.  With all that set up, you can manage 
> the server using the app on a different Mac.  The limitations happen when 
> you're using a different version of the Server app on each machine these 
> won't properly talk to each other.  I just have a drive with multiple MacOS's 
> on it with multiple versions of Server app.  So, when I want to manage an el 
> Capitan server installation, I use the 10.11.6 installation and so on for 
> Sierra etc.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 00:18, Simon Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’ve got a mac mini running sierra server which I’m setting up for a number 
> of different things.
>  
> One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.
>  
> The other is Remote Desktop which I’d like to be able to do from my MBA
>  
> Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
> management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
> server fine.
>  
> But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a 
> say mac book to mac book
> But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
> connection,
>  
> Yet I can’t figure how to get this working,
> Is anyone able to advise on how voiceover ca

Re: mac os server and remote desk top

[sandi sørensen]

Use ssh, and terminal, also known as Bash.
It is a little geeky to set up, but i promise you once done you can do 10 
different things at  the same time


SandieSent from my iPad

> On 10 Nov 2017, at 05.15, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> If they both get upgraded to High Sierra, then you'd still be fine.  With 
> respect to the VPN, if you have DNS set up on the Sierra server, then enable 
> Open Directory on the Sierra server.  Once OD is enabled, create a network 
> user with "Services Only" privileges.  Use this network user as the user to 
> connect to the VPN.  I've found that local user credentials don't work well 
> with the VPN initial access.  The DNS on the server should point to itself as 
> well as your router.  As long as the server can access the internet, then 
> anything connected through its VPN service can do so as well.
> 
> With respect to ARD, sorry, no joy there either.  VO will not pass through 
> the sound.  You can control VO as long as VO is off on your machine, but you 
> won't hear anything unless you're sitting right beside it.  For connecting to 
> the server, you could connect via AFP or smb through the VPN and have access 
> to most things you'd need access to.
> 
> That's how I handle it anyway.  Well, that and Terminal.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 16:39, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> Yeah one Idea and yes the two devices are currently both running sierra but 
> that will get updated soonish.
>  
> I would prefer to be able to also access files / folder structures as well as 
> server features, but from an off site location through my vpn which is being 
> bloody difficult with setup and I can’t see which part is the issue.
>  
> I was wondering about ARD apple Remote Desktop on the server and if using 
> that to connect to the client will give me vo through the connection 
>  Terminal isn’t currently an option as my linux skills are sadly not great.
>  
> I’ll keep playing and see what I can do . 
>  
> Cheers.
>  
> SF
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 6:48 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mac os server and remote desk top
>  
> Simon,
>  
> If you're MacBook is running the same MacOS as the Server, and all you're 
> wanting to do is manage the Server settings, then you don't need to do 
> anything special   Just install the Server app onto your MacBook, open it, 
> press cmd-n to open a new connection, select Other from the table, then enter 
> the IP of your router.  You will have first needed to set up a forwarder that 
> will forward requests that come to the router for Server Admin tasks to be 
> forwarded to your Server internal IP.  With all that set up, you can manage 
> the server using the app on a different Mac.  The limitations happen when 
> you're using a different version of the Server app on each machine these 
> won't properly talk to each other.  I just have a drive with multiple MacOS's 
> on it with multiple versions of Server app.  So, when I want to manage an el 
> Capitan server installation, I use the 10.11.6 installation and so on for 
> Sierra etc.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 00:18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’ve got a mac mini running sierra server which I’m setting up for a number 
> of different things.
>  
> One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.
>  
> The other is Remote Desktop which I’d like to be able to do from my MBA
>  
> Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
> management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
> server fine.
>  
> But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a 
> say mac book to mac book
> But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
> connection,
>  
> Yet I can’t figure how to get this working,
> Is anyone able to advise on how voiceover can be setup to work through the 
> server to MBA remote connection.
>  
> Any help would be appreciated.
>  
>  
>  
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Re: mac os server and remote desk top

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Simon,

If they both get upgraded to High Sierra, then you'd still be fine.  With 
respect to the VPN, if you have DNS set up on the Sierra server, then enable 
Open Directory on the Sierra server.  Once OD is enabled, create a network user 
with "Services Only" privileges.  Use this network user as the user to connect 
to the VPN.  I've found that local user credentials don't work well with the 
VPN initial access.  The DNS on the server should point to itself as well as 
your router.  As long as the server can access the internet, then anything 
connected through its VPN service can do so as well.

With respect to ARD, sorry, no joy there either.  VO will not pass through the 
sound.  You can control VO as long as VO is off on your machine, but you won't 
hear anything unless you're sitting right beside it.  For connecting to the 
server, you could connect via AFP or smb through the VPN and have access to 
most things you'd need access to.

That's how I handle it anyway.  Well, that and Terminal.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 9, 2017, at 16:39, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
Yeah one Idea and yes the two devices are currently both running sierra but 
that will get updated soonish.
 
I would prefer to be able to also access files / folder structures as well as 
server features, but from an off site location through my vpn which is being 
bloody difficult with setup and I can’t see which part is the issue.
 
I was wondering about ARD apple Remote Desktop on the server and if using that 
to connect to the client will give me vo through the connection 
 Terminal isn’t currently an option as my linux skills are sadly not great.
 
I’ll keep playing and see what I can do . 
 
Cheers.
 
SF
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 6:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac os server and remote desk top
 
Simon,
 
If you're MacBook is running the same MacOS as the Server, and all you're 
wanting to do is manage the Server settings, then you don't need to do anything 
special   Just install the Server app onto your MacBook, open it, press cmd-n 
to open a new connection, select Other from the table, then enter the IP of 
your router.  You will have first needed to set up a forwarder that will 
forward requests that come to the router for Server Admin tasks to be forwarded 
to your Server internal IP.  With all that set up, you can manage the server 
using the app on a different Mac.  The limitations happen when you're using a 
different version of the Server app on each machine these won't properly talk 
to each other.  I just have a drive with multiple MacOS's on it with multiple 
versions of Server app.  So, when I want to manage an el Capitan server 
installation, I use the 10.11.6 installation and so on for Sierra etc.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Nov 8, 2017, at 00:18, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi List,
 
I’ve got a mac mini running sierra server which I’m setting up for a number of 
different things.
 
One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.
 
The other is Remote Desktop which I’d like to be able to do from my MBA
 
Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
server fine.
 
But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a say 
mac book to mac book
But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
connection,
 
Yet I can’t figure how to get this working,
Is anyone able to advise on how voiceover can be setup to work through the 
server to MBA remote connection.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
 
 
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RE: mac os server and remote desk top

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Yeah one Idea and yes the two devices are currently both running sierra but 
that will get updated soonish.

I would prefer to be able to also access files / folder structures as well as 
server features, but from an off site location through my vpn which is being 
bloody difficult with setup and I can’t see which part is the issue.

I was wondering about ARD apple Remote Desktop on the server and if using that 
to connect to the client will give me vo through the connection
 Terminal isn’t currently an option as my linux skills are sadly not great.

I’ll keep playing and see what I can do .

Cheers.

SF
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 6:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac os server and remote desk top

Simon,

If you're MacBook is running the same MacOS as the Server, and all you're 
wanting to do is manage the Server settings, then you don't need to do anything 
special   Just install the Server app onto your MacBook, open it, press cmd-n 
to open a new connection, select Other from the table, then enter the IP of 
your router.  You will have first needed to set up a forwarder that will 
forward requests that come to the router for Server Admin tasks to be forwarded 
to your Server internal IP.  With all that set up, you can manage the server 
using the app on a different Mac.  The limitations happen when you're using a 
different version of the Server app on each machine these won't properly talk 
to each other.  I just have a drive with multiple MacOS's on it with multiple 
versions of Server app.  So, when I want to manage an el Capitan server 
installation, I use the 10.11.6 installation and so on for Sierra etc.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 8, 2017, at 00:18, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I’ve got a mac mini running sierra server which I’m setting up for a number of 
different things.

One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.

The other is Remote Desktop which I’d like to be able to do from my MBA

Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
server fine.

But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a say 
mac book to mac book
But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
connection,

Yet I can’t figure how to get this working,
Is anyone able to advise on how voiceover can be setup to work through the 
server to MBA remote connection.

Any help would be appreciated.



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Re: mac os server and remote desk top

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

If you're MacBook is running the same MacOS as the Server, and all you're 
wanting to do is manage the Server settings, then you don't need to do anything 
special   Just install the Server app onto your MacBook, open it, press cmd-n 
to open a new connection, select Other from the table, then enter the IP of 
your router.  You will have first needed to set up a forwarder that will 
forward requests that come to the router for Server Admin tasks to be forwarded 
to your Server internal IP.  With all that set up, you can manage the server 
using the app on a different Mac.  The limitations happen when you're using a 
different version of the Server app on each machine these won't properly talk 
to each other.  I just have a drive with multiple MacOS's on it with multiple 
versions of Server app.  So, when I want to manage an el Capitan server 
installation, I use the 10.11.6 installation and so on for Sierra etc.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 8, 2017, at 00:18, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi List,
 
I’ve got a mac mini running sierra server which I’m setting up for a number of 
different things.
 
One of which is VPN which is done but still not yet working.
 
The other is Remote Desktop which I’d like to be able to do from my MBA
 
Now on the server I have the screen sharing, remote log in and remote 
management all enabled and from within my network at home I can VNC on to the 
server fine.
 
But as Voiceover is not available to me through the VNC connection if on a say 
mac book to mac book
But Voiceover is meant to be available from Mac OS Server to the remote 
connection,
 
Yet I can’t figure how to get this working,
Is anyone able to advise on how voiceover can be setup to work through the 
server to MBA remote connection.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
 

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RE: mac os server

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for that,

Yeah was searching last night and was finding a number of articals.


Interesting how they have it setup now,
Select the service and then configure it

Cheers again for the information.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 8:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac os server

Simon,

There is likely a "Take Control of MacOS Sierra Server" eBook out there.  The 
Take Control series are usually quite good books.  Other than that, there's 
good stuff just on the Net.  Just do a search on what service you wish to get 
more detail on, along with MacOS Server in the search parameters and there's 
lots of helpful material.  I've mostly did all my Server stuff the second way 
and I've got Leopard, Snow Leopard, El Capitan and Sierra servers all going 
within our domain.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 28, 2017, at 04:24, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Does any one know of a good tech manual on OSX server in the current case it is 
ver: 10.12.x sierra server.




Cheers for any info people might have.

Simon f

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Re: mac os server

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

There is likely a "Take Control of MacOS Sierra Server" eBook out there.  The 
Take Control series are usually quite good books.  Other than that, there's 
good stuff just on the Net.  Just do a search on what service you wish to get 
more detail on, along with MacOS Server in the search parameters and there's 
lots of helpful material.  I've mostly did all my Server stuff the second way 
and I've got Leopard, Snow Leopard, El Capitan and Sierra servers all going 
within our domain.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 28, 2017, at 04:24, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Does any one know of a good tech manual on OSX server in the current case it is 
ver: 10.12.x sierra server.
 
 
 
 
Cheers for any info people might have.
 
Simon f 

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RE: Mac OS Server

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Yes wondered about that,

I also have the magic keyboard so can use that,

I’ve installed os x server 10.12,
Waw that is different from mavericks server I’m taking my time to figure it out


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server

Hi,

It's possible that the keyboard is beginning to fail.  It used to be possible 
to change it out, but I'm guessing that it would be rather difficult to get the 
part now with how old that machine is.  You could connect an external USB 
keyboard to see if things perform better.  That would tell you whether the 
keyboard on the MacBook is starting to die, or if it's just a speed thing.  I 
have the Server app on my MBP, but mostly just use it to remotely access other 
servers in our domain.  You could have some fun enabling DNS and DHCP to see if 
you could mess up things at work, just deny it if they figure out that it was 
you :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2017, at 16:02, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi tim,

Yeah ssd made a big difference,
Guessing 8gb ram will help also,
Starting to wonder about the keyboard htough as it’s not liking some of my key 
presses.
Might be just speed of machine though

Yeah still putting a server on a mac book as a notebook is one I’m questioning 
currently , might be a funny thing to do at work one day when I feel like 
upsetting the world.
Setup a dhcp server and turn it on to wireless  screw up the entire organisation

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 23 June 2017 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server

Hi,

We have some of those white MacBooks still hanging around.  Use them in our 
Robotics programs for when the High School students go off to the Elementary 
schools to introduce the littler ones to robotics and coding.  They get bogged 
down in Mavericks but seem to speed back up with El Capitan.  I've not tried 
them with Sierra though.  Installing 8 GB of RAM would improve performance a 
lot in my opinion.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2017, at 03:36, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

That’s what I thought also however it’s not what I’m getting,

I got everything but the server installation media.

I even had an app for server that I got approx. the same time but no server 
installation media.

I then thought I’d try it with an update to el capitan,  same thing no server 
os available.

So it gave me the option to purchase sierra server and as it’s only 29 dollars 
here in nz, I thought stuff it and I’ve purchased it.

I only hope the machine will take the sierra installation

It’s installing now a dual core 2.26 GHz processor and currently 4 gb ram,

I’ll upgrade that to 8gb tomorrow if I can get to the local store.
Interesting what you can do with an old machine.

Think this is a 2010 Mac book,
The white plastic ones.



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server

Hi,

Normally, you should be able to go to the Purchased tab within the AppStore and 
download previous versions of the Server app.  The caveat here is that you must 
have purchased that app using the same Apple ID.  You may not see it yet, but 
once you install Mountain Lion or Mavericks on to the MacBook, and log into the 
AppStore, that version of Server should still be available to you.  Note that I 
use the word "should".  That's my favourite word when helping people with tech 
sorts of things :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 21, 2017, at 04:21, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I’ve got an old 2009 / 2010 mac book 13” the old white plastic models I’m 
thinking of putting Mac OS Server on to.

I have a server version for either Mt Lion or Mavericks,  and I know these OS’s 
will run on the notebook,
However how would I go about obtaining the server add in for the OS
Is there an apple OS archive somewhere I can access?
As I can’t find my old installer file for the server OS  package.

I also need more ram and once I get the SSD into it I think it will be great.

Cheers,


Simon F



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Re: Mac OS Server

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It's possible that the keyboard is beginning to fail.  It used to be possible 
to change it out, but I'm guessing that it would be rather difficult to get the 
part now with how old that machine is.  You could connect an external USB 
keyboard to see if things perform better.  That would tell you whether the 
keyboard on the MacBook is starting to die, or if it's just a speed thing.  I 
have the Server app on my MBP, but mostly just use it to remotely access other 
servers in our domain.  You could have some fun enabling DNS and DHCP to see if 
you could mess up things at work, just deny it if they figure out that it was 
you :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2017, at 16:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi tim,
 
Yeah ssd made a big difference,
Guessing 8gb ram will help also,
Starting to wonder about the keyboard htough as it’s not liking some of my key 
presses.
Might be just speed of machine though
 
Yeah still putting a server on a mac book as a notebook is one I’m questioning 
currently , might be a funny thing to do at work one day when I feel like 
upsetting the world.
Setup a dhcp server and turn it on to wireless  screw up the entire organisation
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 23 June 2017 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server
 
Hi,
 
We have some of those white MacBooks still hanging around.  Use them in our 
Robotics programs for when the High School students go off to the Elementary 
schools to introduce the littler ones to robotics and coding.  They get bogged 
down in Mavericks but seem to speed back up with El Capitan.  I've not tried 
them with Sierra though.  Installing 8 GB of RAM would improve performance a 
lot in my opinion.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Jun 22, 2017, at 03:36, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Tim,
 
That’s what I thought also however it’s not what I’m getting,
 
I got everything but the server installation media.
 
I even had an app for server that I got approx. the same time but no server 
installation media.
 
I then thought I’d try it with an update to el capitan,  same thing no server 
os available.
 
So it gave me the option to purchase sierra server and as it’s only 29 dollars 
here in nz, I thought stuff it and I’ve purchased it.
 
I only hope the machine will take the sierra installation
 
It’s installing now a dual core 2.26 GHz processor and currently 4 gb ram,
 
I’ll upgrade that to 8gb tomorrow if I can get to the local store.
Interesting what you can do with an old machine.
 
Think this is a 2010 Mac book,
The white plastic ones.
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server
 
Hi,
 
Normally, you should be able to go to the Purchased tab within the AppStore and 
download previous versions of the Server app.  The caveat here is that you must 
have purchased that app using the same Apple ID.  You may not see it yet, but 
once you install Mountain Lion or Mavericks on to the MacBook, and log into the 
AppStore, that version of Server should still be available to you.  Note that I 
use the word "should".  That's my favourite word when helping people with tech 
sorts of things :).
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Jun 21, 2017, at 04:21, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Listers,
 
I’ve got an old 2009 / 2010 mac book 13” the old white plastic models I’m 
thinking of putting Mac OS Server on to.
 
I have a server version for either Mt Lion or Mavericks,  and I know these OS’s 
will run on the notebook,
However how would I go about obtaining the server add in for the OS
Is there an apple OS archive somewhere I can access?
As I can’t find my old installer file for the server OS  package.
 
I also need more ram and once I get the SSD into it I think it will be great.
 
Cheers,
 
 
Simon F
 
 
 
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RE: Mac OS Server

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi tim,

Yeah ssd made a big difference,
Guessing 8gb ram will help also,
Starting to wonder about the keyboard htough as it’s not liking some of my key 
presses.
Might be just speed of machine though

Yeah still putting a server on a mac book as a notebook is one I’m questioning 
currently , might be a funny thing to do at work one day when I feel like 
upsetting the world.
Setup a dhcp server and turn it on to wireless  screw up the entire organisation

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 23 June 2017 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server

Hi,

We have some of those white MacBooks still hanging around.  Use them in our 
Robotics programs for when the High School students go off to the Elementary 
schools to introduce the littler ones to robotics and coding.  They get bogged 
down in Mavericks but seem to speed back up with El Capitan.  I've not tried 
them with Sierra though.  Installing 8 GB of RAM would improve performance a 
lot in my opinion.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2017, at 03:36, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

That’s what I thought also however it’s not what I’m getting,

I got everything but the server installation media.

I even had an app for server that I got approx. the same time but no server 
installation media.

I then thought I’d try it with an update to el capitan,  same thing no server 
os available.

So it gave me the option to purchase sierra server and as it’s only 29 dollars 
here in nz, I thought stuff it and I’ve purchased it.

I only hope the machine will take the sierra installation

It’s installing now a dual core 2.26 GHz processor and currently 4 gb ram,

I’ll upgrade that to 8gb tomorrow if I can get to the local store.
Interesting what you can do with an old machine.

Think this is a 2010 Mac book,
The white plastic ones.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server

Hi,

Normally, you should be able to go to the Purchased tab within the AppStore and 
download previous versions of the Server app.  The caveat here is that you must 
have purchased that app using the same Apple ID.  You may not see it yet, but 
once you install Mountain Lion or Mavericks on to the MacBook, and log into the 
AppStore, that version of Server should still be available to you.  Note that I 
use the word "should".  That's my favourite word when helping people with tech 
sorts of things :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 21, 2017, at 04:21, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I’ve got an old 2009 / 2010 mac book 13” the old white plastic models I’m 
thinking of putting Mac OS Server on to.

I have a server version for either Mt Lion or Mavericks,  and I know these OS’s 
will run on the notebook,
However how would I go about obtaining the server add in for the OS
Is there an apple OS archive somewhere I can access?
As I can’t find my old installer file for the server OS  package.

I also need more ram and once I get the SSD into it I think it will be great.

Cheers,


Simon F



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Re: Mac OS Server

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

We have some of those white MacBooks still hanging around.  Use them in our 
Robotics programs for when the High School students go off to the Elementary 
schools to introduce the littler ones to robotics and coding.  They get bogged 
down in Mavericks but seem to speed back up with El Capitan.  I've not tried 
them with Sierra though.  Installing 8 GB of RAM would improve performance a 
lot in my opinion.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 22, 2017, at 03:36, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
That’s what I thought also however it’s not what I’m getting,
 
I got everything but the server installation media.
 
I even had an app for server that I got approx. the same time but no server 
installation media.
 
I then thought I’d try it with an update to el capitan,  same thing no server 
os available.
 
So it gave me the option to purchase sierra server and as it’s only 29 dollars 
here in nz, I thought stuff it and I’ve purchased it.
 
I only hope the machine will take the sierra installation
 
It’s installing now a dual core 2.26 GHz processor and currently 4 gb ram,
 
I’ll upgrade that to 8gb tomorrow if I can get to the local store.
Interesting what you can do with an old machine.
 
Think this is a 2010 Mac book,
The white plastic ones.
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server
 
Hi,
 
Normally, you should be able to go to the Purchased tab within the AppStore and 
download previous versions of the Server app.  The caveat here is that you must 
have purchased that app using the same Apple ID.  You may not see it yet, but 
once you install Mountain Lion or Mavericks on to the MacBook, and log into the 
AppStore, that version of Server should still be available to you.  Note that I 
use the word "should".  That's my favourite word when helping people with tech 
sorts of things :).
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
 
On Jun 21, 2017, at 04:21, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Listers,
 
I’ve got an old 2009 / 2010 mac book 13” the old white plastic models I’m 
thinking of putting Mac OS Server on to.
 
I have a server version for either Mt Lion or Mavericks,  and I know these OS’s 
will run on the notebook,
However how would I go about obtaining the server add in for the OS
Is there an apple OS archive somewhere I can access?
As I can’t find my old installer file for the server OS  package.
 
I also need more ram and once I get the SSD into it I think it will be great.
 
Cheers,
 
 
Simon F
 
 
 
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RE: Mac OS Server

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

That’s what I thought also however it’s not what I’m getting,

I got everything but the server installation media.

I even had an app for server that I got approx. the same time but no server 
installation media.

I then thought I’d try it with an update to el capitan,  same thing no server 
os available.

So it gave me the option to purchase sierra server and as it’s only 29 dollars 
here in nz, I thought stuff it and I’ve purchased it.

I only hope the machine will take the sierra installation

It’s installing now a dual core 2.26 GHz processor and currently 4 gb ram,

I’ll upgrade that to 8gb tomorrow if I can get to the local store.
Interesting what you can do with an old machine.

Think this is a 2010 Mac book,
The white plastic ones.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2017 5:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac OS Server

Hi,

Normally, you should be able to go to the Purchased tab within the AppStore and 
download previous versions of the Server app.  The caveat here is that you must 
have purchased that app using the same Apple ID.  You may not see it yet, but 
once you install Mountain Lion or Mavericks on to the MacBook, and log into the 
AppStore, that version of Server should still be available to you.  Note that I 
use the word "should".  That's my favourite word when helping people with tech 
sorts of things :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 21, 2017, at 04:21, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I’ve got an old 2009 / 2010 mac book 13” the old white plastic models I’m 
thinking of putting Mac OS Server on to.

I have a server version for either Mt Lion or Mavericks,  and I know these OS’s 
will run on the notebook,
However how would I go about obtaining the server add in for the OS
Is there an apple OS archive somewhere I can access?
As I can’t find my old installer file for the server OS  package.

I also need more ram and once I get the SSD into it I think it will be great.

Cheers,


Simon F



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Re: Mac OS Server

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Normally, you should be able to go to the Purchased tab within the AppStore and 
download previous versions of the Server app.  The caveat here is that you must 
have purchased that app using the same Apple ID.  You may not see it yet, but 
once you install Mountain Lion or Mavericks on to the MacBook, and log into the 
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On Jun 21, 2017, at 04:21, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Listers,
 
I’ve got an old 2009 / 2010 mac book 13” the old white plastic models I’m 
thinking of putting Mac OS Server on to.
 
I have a server version for either Mt Lion or Mavericks,  and I know these OS’s 
will run on the notebook,
However how would I go about obtaining the server add in for the OS
Is there an apple OS archive somewhere I can access?
As I can’t find my old installer file for the server OS  package.
 
I also need more ram and once I get the SSD into it I think it will be great.
 
Cheers,
 
 
Simon F
 
 

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