Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I have found Outlook for iOS to be very accessible. However, I mostly use it to 
read mail, rather than to write or reply to messages, so there may be issues 
that I haven’t encountered for this reason.

 

One of my accounts requires Microsoft Outlook. Even the Exchange support in 
Apple Mail won’t work with it.

 

From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Maria Reyes 
<mariasinbox2...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 00:22
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

 

Hi, 

I think the iPad splits the mail into 2 separate things. So your message list 
would be on the left side for example and the message you're viewing is on the 
right. What works for me is when you are in full screen mode (you should see 
inbox back button) is to double tap the button and I'm taken back to my 
messages list. Yes I would also use Outlook for iOS. I tried an app called 
Spark and it doesn't seem to be accessible. As for the Gmail app, it does allow 
other accounts, but I don't like having to go into every single thread in order 
to mark them as read. they should put in a rotor action where you can mark the 
message as read like the mail app. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!


On May 11, 2018, at 11:09 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

I think mostly it’s the different layout or presentation of the mail app 
screens.

 

I’m so use to how much phone shows mail in that app that the ipads interface is 
different.

 

I do also use outlook for IOS 

In some cases I find that better to use but again it’s not outlook on the 
computer.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

 

Hi Simon, out of interest, what is it about the iPad that you are not impressed 
with? 

 

For me, its when you are viewing a message. 

 

Once I have entered the message screen, when I perform the scrub gesture to go 
back, VoiceOver makes the bong sound and stays at the message screen. 
Continuing with the same theme, if I use the scrub gesture again on the 
messages list, I again get taken back to the message window that I was viewing. 

 

I guess, its this message window that pops up when I am trying to get out of it 
once I am done with reading emails which is confusing me.I also use my iPad in 
portrait. 

 


On 11 May 2018, at 12:14, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Or like myself you could look at Outlook for IOS which still isnt’ perfect but 
it works 

And yeah I can’t say I’m overly impressed with the mail app on the iPad.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 7:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

 

Hi,

 

What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have multiple 
accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO gestures?  Are you 
in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a difference?

 

Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  When 
in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually three 
containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
keyboard.

 

If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi all

Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with it. 
So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm really 
not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.

So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app or 
give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks

Daniel 

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Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, 
I think the iPad splits the mail into 2 separate things. So your message list 
would be on the left side for example and the message you're viewing is on the 
right. What works for me is when you are in full screen mode (you should see 
inbox back button) is to double tap the button and I'm taken back to my 
messages list. Yes I would also use Outlook for iOS. I tried an app called 
Spark and it doesn't seem to be accessible. As for the Gmail app, it does allow 
other accounts, but I don't like having to go into every single thread in order 
to mark them as read. they should put in a rotor action where you can mark the 
message as read like the mail app. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On May 11, 2018, at 11:09 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> I think mostly it’s the different layout or presentation of the mail app 
> screens.
>  
> I’m so use to how much phone shows mail in that app that the ipads interface 
> is different.
>  
> I do also use outlook for IOS
> In some cases I find that better to use but again it’s not outlook on the 
> computer.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
> Behalf Of Daniel McGee
> Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad
>  
> Hi Simon, out of interest, what is it about the iPad that you are not 
> impressed with? 
>  
> For me, its when you are viewing a message. 
>  
> Once I have entered the message screen, when I perform the scrub gesture to 
> go back, VoiceOver makes the bong sound and stays at the message screen. 
> Continuing with the same theme, if I use the scrub gesture again on the 
> messages list, I again get taken back to the message window that I was 
> viewing. 
>  
> I guess, its this message window that pops up when I am trying to get out of 
> it once I am done with reading emails which is confusing me.I also use my 
> iPad in portrait. 
>  
> 
> On 11 May 2018, at 12:14, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Or like myself you could look at Outlook for IOS which still isnt’ perfect 
> but it works
> And yeah I can’t say I’m overly impressed with the mail app on the iPad.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
> Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 7:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad
>  
> Hi,
>  
> What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have 
> multiple accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO 
> gestures?  Are you in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a 
> difference?
>  
> Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  
> When in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually 
> three containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
> message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
> certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
> keyboard.
>  
> If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
> it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@icloud.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi all
> 
> Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with 
> it. So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm 
> really not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.
> 
> So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app 
> or give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel 
> 
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RE: Accessible mail apps for iPad

[Simon Fogarty]

I think mostly it’s the different layout or presentation of the mail app 
screens.

I’m so use to how much phone shows mail in that app that the ipads interface is 
different.

I do also use outlook for IOS
In some cases I find that better to use but again it’s not outlook on the 
computer.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

Hi Simon, out of interest, what is it about the iPad that you are not impressed 
with?

For me, its when you are viewing a message.

Once I have entered the message screen, when I perform the scrub gesture to go 
back, VoiceOver makes the bong sound and stays at the message screen. 
Continuing with the same theme, if I use the scrub gesture again on the 
messages list, I again get taken back to the message window that I was viewing.

I guess, its this message window that pops up when I am trying to get out of it 
once I am done with reading emails which is confusing me.I also use my iPad in 
portrait.


On 11 May 2018, at 12:14, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Or like myself you could look at Outlook for IOS which still isnt’ perfect but 
it works
And yeah I can’t say I’m overly impressed with the mail app on the iPad.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 7:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

Hi,

What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have multiple 
accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO gestures?  Are you 
in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a difference?

Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  When 
in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually three 
containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
keyboard.

If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee 
<danielmcgee...@icloud.com<mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Hi all

Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with it. 
So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm really 
not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.

So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app or 
give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

[Daniel McGee]

Hi Simon, out of interest, what is it about the iPad that you are not impressed 
with? 

For me, its when you are viewing a message. 

Once I have entered the message screen, when I perform the scrub gesture to go 
back, VoiceOver makes the bong sound and stays at the message screen. 
Continuing with the same theme, if I use the scrub gesture again on the 
messages list, I again get taken back to the message window that I was viewing. 

I guess, its this message window that pops up when I am trying to get out of it 
once I am done with reading emails which is confusing me.I also use my iPad in 
portrait. 


> On 11 May 2018, at 12:14, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Or like myself you could look at Outlook for IOS which still isnt’ perfect 
> but it works
> And yeah I can’t say I’m overly impressed with the mail app on the iPad.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
> Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 7:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad
>  
> Hi,
>  
> What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have 
> multiple accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO 
> gestures?  Are you in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a 
> difference?
>  
> Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  
> When in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually 
> three containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
> message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
> certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
> keyboard.
>  
> If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
> it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@icloud.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi all
> 
> Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with 
> it. So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm 
> really not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.
> 
> So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app 
> or give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel 
> 
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RE: Accessible mail apps for iPad

[Simon Fogarty]

Or like myself you could look at Outlook for IOS which still isnt’ perfect but 
it works
And yeah I can’t say I’m overly impressed with the mail app on the iPad.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2018 7:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

Hi,

What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have multiple 
accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO gestures?  Are you 
in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a difference?

Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  When 
in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually three 
containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
keyboard.

If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee 
<danielmcgee...@icloud.com<mailto:danielmcgee...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Hi all

Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with it. 
So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm really 
not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.

So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app or 
give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks

Daniel

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Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Personally I tried quite a few mail clients and just keep going back to the 
native app on both iOS and Mac OS, native Mail works for me.

As mentioned, on the iPad jumping from portrait to landscape might be the thing 
confusing you, personally I keep my iPhone and iPad permanently locked in 
portrait mode and have for a very long time.

My advice would be to get comfortable with the native Mail rather than 
searching for alternative apps. I think in terms of accessibility in future the 
native app is a safer or rather more secure bet. Not that other companies are 
not committed to accessibility, luckily all the big ones are these days, but if 
I have to put money down, it will still be on Apple. 

> On 10 May 2018, at 21:06, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have 
> multiple accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO 
> gestures?  Are you in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a 
> difference?
> 
> Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  
> When in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually 
> three containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
> message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
> certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
> keyboard.
> 
> If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
> it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with 
> it. So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm 
> really not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.
> 
> So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app 
> or give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel 
> 
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Re: Accessible mail apps for iPad

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

What sort of problems are you having with the native app?  Do you have multiple 
accounts?  Are you using a external keyboard, or regular VO gestures?  Are you 
in Portrait or Landscape or it just doesn't seem to make a difference?

Normally, when in Portrait mode, the iPad behaves similar to the iPhone.  When 
in Landscape mode, the iPad splits into containers.  There's usually three 
containers, the Mailboxes, the messages and the content of the selected 
message.  This is fairly easy to handle with an external keyboard, but I 
certainly could understand your confusion/frustration in Landscape with no 
keyboard.

If you use G Mail, you may wish to look at Google's G Mail client.  I believe 
it works with other accounts as well, but I don't know for sure.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 10, 2018, at 12:38, Daniel McGee  wrote:

Hi all

Normally, I would be happy with using the default mail app and be done with it. 
So, I don't know if it's the user interface or error on my part but I'm really 
not liking how the mail app works with VO with the iPad layout.

So unless anyone can tell me if I'm using the iPad wrongly with the mail app or 
give suggestions for alternative mail apps for the iPad. This would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks

Daniel 

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