Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-25 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

Imaging or backing up and restoring isn’t going to change until the user 
changes their behaviour. Think before you click.

As for root access with VoiceOver, in the terminal you can use the sudo command 
and make changes to the system.

Gena
 On 24 Apr 2015, at 00:39, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Christine,  
 
 I am so sorry that you had to experience such a, what for many of us, would 
 be a scary thing.  
 
 You know, a month or so ago, a friend of mine purchased a new MacBook Air.  
 
 I don't know what she did between the Friday when I set it up and the 
 following Tuesday but when next I saw it, there was no doubt but that she had 
 been hacked/compromised.  I don't remember the particulars but a quick Google 
 search confirmed it.
 
 Now even though many hate to hear this, I'll tell you that, for my money, the 
 only way to really be certain that you have a clean secure system is to (1) 
 restore from a known good backup such as one would have using SuperDuper or 
 (2) wiping the drive clean and performing a fresh install.  As far as I am 
 concerned, once your system has been compromised, there are no other options.
 
 So many times I see both Windows and Mac users take less drastic steps to 
 redeem their systems only to have the same problems crop up a few weeks or 
 sometimes months later.  
 
 This is just my opinion, of course, as I do not want to start a heated debate.
 
 Mark
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:55 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Adware warning!
 
 I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
 I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
 informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
 system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect 
 any further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
 888 553-4193
 and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
 digits.
 My BS detector was on full alert. 
 I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this 
 occurs several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
 When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the 
 server, nor could Google Chrome. 
 I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
 VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
 bring it up.
 The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
 experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the 
 ability to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing 
 like an application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com, download 
 adware medic, and run it.
 This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
 incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
 mode?
 Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known 
 to give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting 
 their computers fixed.
 Christine
 
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Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-24 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Good to know. My parents just got fooled. They say that there was some 
popup that said their flash was out of date and to download an updater. 
Well, they went ahead and did that but it wasn't the real Flash updater. 
So now every time they click a link it opens a new browser tab to some 
other malware download stuff, pops up giant ads and other annoyances. 
This included the obligatory call this number for help which they did 
but at least they stopped before actually handing over their credit card 
number. The tipoff to them was that the 'tech support company' wasn't 
actually Apple. I think they had wanted $150 to 'fix' their machine.


From what I read, under the hood the malware actually uses some unix 
tricks to attach itself to the browsers process (Safari, Chrome or 
Firefox) and intercept all the requests so they can modify the links on 
the fly. Pretty sneaky. From this Apple article it sounds like you can 
sometimes wipe it out just by doing a major OS upgrade:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202225

They were on OSX 10.8 so I had them start downloading/installing 10.10 
last night and it was still going earlier today. If that doesn't work 
I'll run through the steps here to try and kill of the badness:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203987

They apparently got MacKeeper installed which is not a good thing. I 
found this recent article talking about how Malware does it's thing on 
OSX and that we're going to find more of it migrating from Windows:


http://www.howtogeek.com/210589/mac-os-x-isn’t-safe-anymore-the-crapware-malware-epidemic-has-begun/

I'll keep adwaremedic.com in mind if my other attempts fail. Thanks for 
the timely info.


CB

On 4/23/15 6:54 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped 
up, informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had 
attacked my system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical 
systems to protect any further damage.” The warning went on to give 
this number:

888 553-4193
and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with 
several digits.

My BS detector was on full alert.
I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that 
this occurs several times a day at least, and that it usually involves 
adware.
When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the 
server, nor could Google Chrome.
I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I 
could use VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and 
command F5 would not bring it up.
The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the 
ability to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen 
sharing like an application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com 
http://adwaremedic.com, download adware medic, and run it.
This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware 
of this incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use 
VoiceOver in safe mode?
Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been 
known to give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they 
are getting their computers fixed.

Christine

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Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
So far, I only install software from Apple although when Microsoft Office comes 
out I'll be getting it.  I'll investigate virus anti software in due course.  
However, I only go to safe websites and touch wood, have not had any problems 
to date but you don't know what is round the corner.  Just be careful where you 
browse etc.

Kawal.
On 24 Apr 2015, at 01:02, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:

That's why I just got booth programs now, will test accessibility when i get to 
the mac.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 The Adware menace has, unfortunately, spread to the Mac, yes.
 
 The good news is that, right now, there are fairly few strains of the stuff, 
 and AdwareMedic is a very good bet on its removal.  Antivirus software 
 typically doesn’t identify adware because, while obnoxious in the extreme, it 
 isn’t actually malicious—at least, not in the sense of actually being harmful 
 to your computer.
 
 The bad news is that, like Windows users, you are no longer insulated by 
 obscurity against your own misjudgement.  Install software only from 
 reputable sources; do not download from any site other than that which 
 officially distributes the software.  In general this means that you do not 
 download from any repository, such as a download site, but get the software 
 directly from the project’s own web page, typically the page of the author.  
 Naturally, if you trust Apple, one obvious way to seal things tight is only 
 to install from the Mac App Store, or only to install Apple-signed software.  
 In any event, do not install software merely because you were asked to do so 
 by any message coming from within your web browser.  In case of doubt, ask 
 questions.
 
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Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-23 Thread Christine Grassman
I asked the Apple tech support rep about whether I should install anything else 
besides adware Medic and he did not seem to think I needed anything more. I do 
have to say that no one I know personally  who has  a Mac has antivirus 
software, and precious few have had issues. I will look into this though. 
Thanks. 
Christine

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RE: Adware warning!

2015-04-23 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Christine,  

I am so sorry that you had to experience such a, what for many of us, would be 
a scary thing.  

You know, a month or so ago, a friend of mine purchased a new MacBook Air.  

I don't know what she did between the Friday when I set it up and the following 
Tuesday but when next I saw it, there was no doubt but that she had been 
hacked/compromised.  I don't remember the particulars but a quick Google search 
confirmed it.

Now even though many hate to hear this, I'll tell you that, for my money, the 
only way to really be certain that you have a clean secure system is to (1) 
restore from a known good backup such as one would have using SuperDuper or (2) 
wiping the drive clean and performing a fresh install.  As far as I am 
concerned, once your system has been compromised, there are no other options.

So many times I see both Windows and Mac users take less drastic steps to 
redeem their systems only to have the same problems crop up a few weeks or 
sometimes months later.  

This is just my opinion, of course, as I do not want to start a heated debate.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Adware warning!

I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect any 
further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
888 553-4193
and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
digits.
My BS detector was on full alert. 
I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this occurs 
several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the server, 
nor could Google Chrome. 
I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
bring it up.
The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the ability 
to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing like an 
application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com, download adware medic, 
and run it.
This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
mode?
Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known to 
give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting their 
computers fixed.
Christine

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Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-23 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
The Adware menace has, unfortunately, spread to the Mac, yes.

The good news is that, right now, there are fairly few strains of the stuff, 
and AdwareMedic is a very good bet on its removal.  Antivirus software 
typically doesn’t identify adware because, while obnoxious in the extreme, it 
isn’t actually malicious—at least, not in the sense of actually being harmful 
to your computer.

The bad news is that, like Windows users, you are no longer insulated by 
obscurity against your own misjudgement.  Install software only from reputable 
sources; do not download from any site other than that which officially 
distributes the software.  In general this means that you do not download from 
any repository, such as a download site, but get the software directly from the 
project’s own web page, typically the page of the author.  Naturally, if you 
trust Apple, one obvious way to seal things tight is only to install from the 
Mac App Store, or only to install Apple-signed software.  In any event, do not 
install software merely because you were asked to do so by any message coming 
from within your web browser.  In case of doubt, ask questions.

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Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-23 Thread Ray Foret Jr
First, I know of kno way to use Voice Over at the true route level of the drive 
itself.  Second, I just cannot halp asking.  Do you have any sort of anti virus 
protection on board your system?  IF not, for my part, I urge you to consider 
it.  What you get is, of course, up to you:  and, there will be quite a few 
recommendations from the folks here:  but, for my part, ClamXAV can't be beat 
for accessibility, eas of use, and completeness of protection.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I want you all to know about something I just experienced.
 I was on Twitter within Safari and a “critical service warning” popped up, 
 informing me that a malicious virus had been detected and had attacked my 
 system, and that “we have shut down all of your critical systems to protect 
 any further damage.” The warning went on to give this number:
 888 553-4193
 and directed me to give a number starting with Mac and ending with several 
 digits.
 My BS detector was on full alert. 
 I called Apple and told them what was going on. I was informed that this 
 occurs several times a day at least, and that it usually involves adware.
 When a screen sharing session link was sent, Safari could not find the 
 server, nor could Google Chrome. 
 I was then told to open the MacBook in safe mode, and I thought I could use 
 VoiceOver in safe mode, but it would not come on, and command F5 would not 
 bring it up.
 The tech support rep handed me over to someone who had more VoiceOver 
 experience. He had me shut down and restart normally, then sent me the 
 ability to screen share by using my apple ID, which made the screen sharing 
 like an application, which enabled me to go to adwaremedic.com 
 http://adwaremedic.com/, download adware medic, and run it.
 This problem appears to be resolved, but I wanted you all to be aware of this 
 incident, as well as to inquire: Isn’t there a way to use VoiceOver in safe 
 mode?
 Thank you . . . and be careful out there. I was told people have been known 
 to give their credit card numbers to these people thinking they are getting 
 their computers fixed.
 Christine
 
 
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Re: Adware warning!

2015-04-23 Thread Joe Quinn
That's why I just got booth programs now, will test accessibility when i get to 
the mac.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 The Adware menace has, unfortunately, spread to the Mac, yes.
 
 The good news is that, right now, there are fairly few strains of the stuff, 
 and AdwareMedic is a very good bet on its removal.  Antivirus software 
 typically doesn’t identify adware because, while obnoxious in the extreme, it 
 isn’t actually malicious—at least, not in the sense of actually being harmful 
 to your computer.
 
 The bad news is that, like Windows users, you are no longer insulated by 
 obscurity against your own misjudgement.  Install software only from 
 reputable sources; do not download from any site other than that which 
 officially distributes the software.  In general this means that you do not 
 download from any repository, such as a download site, but get the software 
 directly from the project’s own web page, typically the page of the author.  
 Naturally, if you trust Apple, one obvious way to seal things tight is only 
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 In any event, do not install software merely because you were asked to do so 
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